[00:01] <msb_> hello?
[00:01] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: If the install is in place, depending on what options ya choose, maybe all that is being done is checking if files are inplace ? ,, As this is a new install, one might consider wiping that sdb disk out with GParted and starting anew ?
[00:01] <pie_man_66> when I try and apt-get install unity-tweak-tool it says its unable to locate the package. Its a fresh install of 12.04 and i've checked etc/apt/sources.list and all the universal repositories are unhashed. Updated and upgraded too. Anybody know whats up?
[00:02] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: ill try checking files and i have wiped this drive PLENTY of times and it has never had more than 360 Gibs on it
[00:02] <msb_> A friend of mine is running Ubuntu 12.04 and is trying to run an executable file from the current directory, but bash says it can't find the file.
[00:02] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om:  sorry to ask but how do i open the drive :P
[00:03] <msb_> He's using the command ./name-of-file
[00:03] <bnoji2> is it executable?
[00:03] <Grizzlee> hi
[00:03] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: I will someday be familiar with GPT, for now Gdisk says "Disk /dev/sdb: 1953525164 sectors, 931.5 GiB" .
[00:03] <msb_> yes, the permissions say it is.
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> msb_: is it a 32bit binary?
[00:04] <msb_> yes, 32bit
[00:05] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: yes thats the specs it supposed to be 1 TB i have used it with a windows computer to store games on but i ""nuked""/wiped the drive bedore bringing it onto ubuntu
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> msb_: most likely its missing some dependencies. try: ldd name-of-file
[00:06] <msb_> "not a dynamic executable"
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> msb_: file name-of-file
[00:06] <msb_> ihu
[00:06] <Baahtti> how can I fill out fillable forms in a web browser, on Ubuntu 12.04? I've tried PDFEdit and Master PDF Editor. Neither are suiting my needs. I need to answer some questions on PDF forms which require paragraph answers and my paragraphs seem to cover the other text.
[00:07] <msb_> It's a very nice voip program from here http://ihu.sourceforge.net/download.html
[00:07] <CrazyGangster> Baahtti: use foxit reader
[00:08] <Baahtti> CrazyGangster, thanks, I'll check that out
[00:08] <hitsujiTMO> msb_: hasn't been updated since 2008. Definitely dependency imo. But may rely on outdated libs
[00:09] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: let's see if there is a "real" install on sdb: Boot up the liveUSB to try ubuntu mode and activate a terminal. we will look !
[00:09] <msb_> hitsujiTMO: That's certainly possible.
[00:10] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: ok .
[00:10] <CrazyGangster> msb_: nice finding thanks :)
[00:10] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: also
[00:10] <jamesd> is it normal for the iso disc check function  to have a bad file, i verified md5sum of  the iso 12.04.03-serveer amd64
[00:10] <mrpizzaface> bash
[00:10] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: Gparted has some errors
[00:10] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: on SDC1 (/) Unable to detect file system
[00:16] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: Where is "sdc1" comming into the picture ?
[00:16] <pie_man_66> when I try and apt-get install unity-tweak-tool it says its unable to locate the package. Its a fresh install of 12.04 and i've checked etc/apt/sources.list and all the universal repositories are unhashed. Updated and upgraded too. Anybody know whats up?
[00:16] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: sorry i mean SDB1 lol
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> pie_man_66: did you apt-get update first?
[00:17] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: actually it says the external hdd is sdc1 ............ (mind is fucked as the bass)
[00:18] <pie_man_66> yeah update then upgrade
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> pie_man_66: cat /etc/issue && uname -r
[00:19] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: As said I have no experience with GPT partitioning, If it were the legacy partitioing, I would know to run a file system check on the file system. I can "assume" fsck will deal with it .. but .. At this point I really think wiping that hard drive with GParted and starting over may be the best thing to do.
[00:19] <DIFTOW> Hello. I'm trying out Ubuntu 13 on a computer using a Nvidia GT 630 and having many display issues that I do not experience on my other machine running Ubuntu 12 with the GTX 580. Both use the same nvidia drivers.
[00:19] <DIFTOW> One of the issues is that Nvidia doesn't appear to follow xorg.conf at all.
[00:20] <DIFTOW> Even though I've used my administrative permissions to edit the xorg.conf file to force a certain display resolution, it still persists on auto resolution to 1080p upon reboot.
[00:21] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: Your output of "parted" does not show a "SDC", where is that disk coming into the picture ?
[00:21] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: it appears as my external hdd im trying to install ubuntu on
[00:21] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om:  would removing my internal hdd help /
[00:22] <pie_man_66> hitsujiTMO: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[00:22] <pie_man_66> 3.8.0-29-generic
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> pie_man_66: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:23] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface:  I am just confused as to what we are dealing with, sda is the usb, sdb is the external drive no ? then why and where is sdc coming from ? And why is it not on the parted output ?
[00:25] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: sda is my live cd where the hell sdb is i dont know and sdc is my external HDD and i have a unfunctional Win8.1 partition on a internal hdd with a supposedly shot sata controller that randomly works so im guessing its connected now but isnt showing in any reports i make my computer is litterly messed up if you ask me
[00:28] <MarGul> I dont think that my ssh keys are working properly. I generated the keys with ssh-keygen -t rsa, copied the key over to my server with ssh-copy-id user@host.  My authorized_keys file are not empty (my key is there so it got transfered correctly) . BUT when I use my laptop instead (where I have no keys under .ssh) I can still login to my server with the password?
[00:29] <hitsujiTMO> MarGul: did you disable password auth on sshd on the server?
[00:29] <MarGul> hitsujiTMO: No I haven't done that. Only did the above. How will I do that?
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> MarGul: after testing and sucessfully being able to login without a password using your private key, you should modify /etc/ssh/sshd_config and modify the line: PasswordAuthentication yes          to  PasswordAuthentication no
[00:31] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: think'n .. what to do .. will be back.
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> MarGul: then restart sshd to take on the new options: sudo service ssh restart
[00:32] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om:  yeah im just trying not to go nucular on my computer ...
[00:33] <pie_man_66> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/AwUbP5Wz
[00:33] <MarGul> hitsujiTMO: Thank you so much, not allowed to login from my laptop now :)
[00:34] <MarGul> hitsujiTMO: But even on my desktop (where I transfered the keys) I get : Permission denied (publickey).
[00:34] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: computer is your best friend .. i;;ogical to beat up on such a logical being !..Tell ya what, go ahead with your suggestion and disconnect that internal hard drive; and let's see if the system still recognizes the external drive, and see what the nomenclature of the external drive then becomes.
[00:35] <philtrAlt> what are some popular irc clients used with ubuntu?
[00:35] <philtrAlt> or just "a" popular one
[00:35] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om:  ok lemme find my screw driver
[00:36] <hitsujiTMO> pie_man_66: lets try switching mirrors: sudo sed -i 's/gb.arch/ie.arch/' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[00:37] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: wait might my wireless mouse be SDB ?
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> MarGul: were you able to ssh with the privatekey without it asking for a password before you disabled password auth
[00:38] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: no, the sdb did have a file system on it.
[00:38] <msb_> In 12.04, how does one open a particular network port?
[00:38] <mrpizzaface> ok
[00:38] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: i swear im amazed this computer is still running lol
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> msb_: its open by default. you must install a firewall yourself
[00:39] <msb_> hitsujiTMO: Thanks!
[00:40] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: How old is the box and what version of Windows does it have ?
[00:40] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: i might just be ingorant ... i forgot toinstall bootloader to the efi partition ..
[00:41] <MarGul> hitsujiTM: No I thought it all worked fine because I was able to login with the password from both of my computers. But I checked the authorized_keys on my server, and my id_rsa.pub key was in there. Dont know what could have gone wrong ;/
[00:41] <hitsujiTMO> MarGul: if it was asking for a password then it wasn't working
[00:41] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: Well, all a process of learning, got to have a boot loader to boot an operating system !
[00:41] <Bookwormser> Hello. I am seeing a lot of memory not being freed up after stop and starting a lot of memory intensive processes. Aside from rebooting, can I just run sysctl -w vm.drop_caches=3?
[00:41] <energizer> My monitor won't turn on. This isn't an ubuntu problem, but I want to just talk through it with someone.
[00:42] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: i know a bit about how os's work but linux just stumps me every chance it gets
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> MarGul: do you have another to access the system?
[00:42] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: (nucular missile locked onto external hdd)
[00:42] <MarGul> hitsujiTMO: Nah but I have my sever at home so I can just log in and remove the keys (or put PasswordAuthentication yes) back on and then try to do it again correctly
[00:43] <pie_man_66> hitsujiTMO: updated from the other mirror. still the same :(
[00:43] <aidalgol> I have unpacked the Skype tarball in /usr/local/share/, and now when I try to run it from the shell, I get 'bash: /usr/local/share/skype/skype: No such file or directory', even though the file exists, and I have read and execute permissions.
[00:43] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: i think some block on my hdd isnt clear now .... same error same results same partion sizes in EXACT ...
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> pie_man_66: can you install any packages at all? try: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:43] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: Once one is beyond the point and click stage in linux, takes a year to get comforablw with the GUI, 2 yrs for the OS and 10 years to be comfortable over all. no one ever siad there was no learning curve !
[00:44] <hitsujiTMO> aidalgol: use the skype.deb, you get that error when you are missing dependencies for 32bit apps on a 64bit system
[00:44] <gh0stpirate> can anyone please PLEASE help me with this simple bash script im trying to make? script: http://pastebin.com/FfhD4ZE9      related kind of: http://bit.ly/Moip71
[00:45] <aidalgol> hitsujiTMO: Oh, bizarre.
[00:45] <pie_man_66> hitsujiTMO: yeah, I can install that
[00:45] <aidalgol> Isn't it supposed to complain about the missing dependency, though?
[00:45] <moondoggy> Never.
[00:45] <moondoggy> Sorry--wrong channel.
[00:46] <tsimpson> gh0stpirate: you probably want a case statement: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_07_03.html
[00:46] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: well, Hard disk do die ! .. how about running the SMART test from the liveUSB disk utility, see what it reports on the health of the hard drive ?
[00:47] <hitsujiTMO> pie_man_66: can you run: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[00:47] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: .... ok well why dont unity desktop just crash lol and how ..
[00:48] <gry> hi! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6858464/ what does it want me to do?
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> pie_man_66: that should generate a url
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> pie_man_66: please paste the url here
[00:48] <gh0stpirate> tsimpson, i really dont understand that :(
[00:49] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: Back to how old is the box, and what version of Windows does it support ? Unity takes the horsepower to run !
[00:49] <pie_man_66> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6858480/
[00:49] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: 2012 machiene AMD A6-3420M and oficolaly win 7 but everthing except secure boot in win 8
[00:51] <tsimpson> gh0stpirate: you'd have something like my_args="$2"; case "$1" in lowest) my_args="-720 -30fps $my_args";; low) my_args="720 -60fps $my_args";; ... etc esac; java -jar /src/limelight-pi.jar $my_args
[00:51] <mic_e> hi, does anybody have experience with setting up a 3g connection without using network manager?
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO> !info unity-tweak-tool precise
[00:52] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: should run unity, no problem !
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO> pie_man_66: ok, been looking at this from the wrong way. unity-tweak-tool was added in later distros
[00:53] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: well this live cd is playing music keeping up with a irc and checking my disk for errors lol
[00:53] <hitsujiTMO> pie_man_66: might as well switch back the mirror: sudo sed -i 's/ie.arch/gb.arch/' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update
[00:53] <Bookwormser> I am seeing a lot of memory not being released after stopping and restarting memory intensive processes. I normally just restart the server. Can I just run sysctl -w vm.drop_caches=3?
[00:53] <gh0stpirate> tsimpson. damn i think im in over my head :/ i wish that link had a much smaller/simpiler examples code examples theres so much going on!
[00:54] <pie_man_66> hitsujiTMO: that would explain it. ok will do. thanks for your help.
[00:54] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: Just think what it will do when ubuntu is installed to the hard disk !
[00:54] <sacrelicious> hey guys, quick question from a linux newbie
[00:54] <sacrelicious> how do i make my linux partition larger? I have a huge amount of unallocated HD space
[00:55] <hitsujiTMO> Bookwormser: can you pastebin the output of: free -m
[00:55] <bazhang> !gparted | sacrelicious
[00:55] <tsimpson> gh0stpirate: if you look at the first example it's actually quite similar to what you want, except instead of printing the Message variable you use it to store the parameters to pass to your java program
[00:55] <sacrelicious> I have gparted...I just dont know how to enlarge my dev/sda3 partition
[00:55] <bazhang> boot with the live cd sacrelicious
[00:55] <sacrelicious> ahhh allright
[00:56] <bazhang> it must be unmounted
[00:56] <sacrelicious> thanks.
[00:56] <HiddenDjinn> if a person wanted to erase the first 11 characters of all files in a dir, what's a quick way for him to do it?
[00:58] <gh0stpirate> but i cant pick out were its retrieving data from the space variable due to the fact that the command is piped several times and dont know most of those commands. i df out of that entire pipe :/
[00:58] <MarGul> hitsujiTMO: So I went in to my server and changed back PasswordAuthen to yes. Now I can log in from both my desktop and my laptop again. Just to double check that the keys are transfered correctly. My authorized_keys (on my server) has one entry. The same key as my desktop has in ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub , is this correct?
[00:58] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: i have a 32gb flashdrive with 12.04.3 installed but its almost out of life lol and this hdd SCREAMS (320mbits/s write) (580Mbits/s read) from a reg hdd
[00:59] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: 12.04 series is LTS .. has life until 2017 !
[00:59] <MarGul> Now when I try to login from my desktop it will say(Enter passphrase for key '/home/gullberg/.ssh/id_rsa': ) , when I try and log in from my laptop (where I dont have any keys at .ssh) it will just ask me for the ssh password and I can log in
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> MarGul: yes that should be correct. authorized_keys is located in ~/.ssh  correct?
[01:00] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om:  what i mean the flashdrive is starting to die
[01:00] <MarGul> hitsujiTMO: yes it is
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> MarGul: and what happens when you put in the ssh passphrase?
[01:00] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface:  OK, best get hot and get ubuntu 12.04 onto that hard disk, huh ,
[01:00] <sawek_> ]
[01:00] <sawek_> Hej
[01:01] <sawek_> polski kanał ubuntu jak się nazywa?
[01:01] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: yep ya got it there
[01:01] <tsimpson> gh0stpirate: yeah that's a complicated command, but you don't really need to understand that part as you just want to process words like "lowest" passed on the command line
[01:01] <MarGul> hitsujiTMO: I can log in from both my computers(desktop having the key, where i used ssh-copy-id to transfer the keys, laptop doesnt even have any keys but can still login with the passphrase)
[01:02] <bazhang> !pl | sawek_
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> MarGul: but, when you enter the ssh key passphrase, does it still ask for the password for the account?
[01:02] <sawek_> #ubuntu-pl
[01:03] <MarGul> hitsujiTMO: no it doesnt. It asks for the passphrase for the key and when I enter the correct one I get loged in straight away
[01:03] <fabio123> i see that my kubuntu has tune2fs with max count number set to -1
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> MarGul: ok, then it does sound like they key is working. I'm not getting why it would not work when you disabled password auth
[01:03] <guest-YvZpIB> get password
[01:04] <MarGul> hitsujiTMO: I know, I will try and disable password auth again and see how it looks
[01:05] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: waiting on the status of the hard disk's health, I will be back (other channels).
[01:05] <guest-YvZpIB> ping password
[01:05] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: take your time you got abt a hour to chec over 900000 block
[01:06] <MarGul> hitsujiTMO: Wow, now it just magically works. My laptop can not access the server. And my desktop can when I enter the passphrase for the key. Dont ask me why hehe. Thanks for the help though
[01:07] <hitsujiTMO> MarGul: lol, np
[01:07] <aidalgol> Ugh, trying to install the skype .deb breaks a TON.
[01:12] <sawek_> #ubuntu-pl
[01:12] <sawek_> jak wejść?
[01:13] <hitsujiTMO> sawek_: /join #ubuntu-pl
[01:14] <Balzy> hello, I'm having a problemi with kubuntu saucy, I'm trying to apt-get update but many repos are ignored and eventually I get an hash sum mismatch
[01:15] <sawek_> tnx
[01:15] <Balzy> I thought it was a connection problem but it has been going on since a week
[01:18] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: I'll be around. Do this right - haste makes waste !
[01:18] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: yep
[01:18] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: 655193% done lol .....
[01:19] <sawek_> ]
[01:19] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: you much of a gamer /
[01:19] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: I still think, when the check is completed, see if we can acess the installed ubuntu from the liveUSB.
[01:20] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om:  kk
[01:21] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: Gamer: used to be a long time in the past, I find playing with this OS keeps me real occupied now !
[01:22] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: lol im till into it but i might just love ****ing around with linux
[01:23] <Bashing-om> Barrin6: 1st thing is look at your sources.list file, pastebin -> cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list <- .
[01:24] <Bashing-om> mrpizzaface: I have been messing with computer for about 45 years, this is te greatest operating system the world has ever seen, imho.
[01:24] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: lol yeah i agree
[01:24] <Barrin6> wrong person bro
[01:25] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: im gonna try and combine linux windows and mac in a sort in the feature
[01:25] <Bashing-om> Barrin6: sorry bout that ,, I redo for Balzy !
[01:25] <Barrin6> :P
[01:26] <Bashing-om> Balzy: 1st thing is look at your sources.list file, pastebin -> cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list <- .
[01:26] <zopsi> quick question guys as I've had permissions problems with a shared directory before. How would I set rwx for an entire group for a mount point and make all additions the same? I've tried using acl with a little success.
[01:27] <zopsi> would something like "chmod g+rwxs /mountpoint work?
[01:27] <Bashing-om> zopsi: what is the format of the direectory that you want to share ?
[01:28] <zopsi> Bashing-om, it is ext4 and I'm using it to store media files primarily that need to be accessed by several system users.
[01:28] <Bashing-om>  mrpizzaface: That ain't no step for a stepper, but why ? ubuntu does it all (Windows has it over in some respects ) !
[01:30] <Balzy> Bashing-om okay, just a sec
[01:30] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: i mean in the since of DirectX
[01:31] <Balzy> Bashing-om here it is: pastebin.com/Nig4z3k5
[01:35] <Bashing-om>  zopsi: -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions, for all to have COMPLETE access (no security) -> sudo chown 777 <directory_name> . For files too: sudo chmod -R 755 /directory_name> .
[01:36] <zopsi> I don't want all to have complete access just members of a group.
[01:36] <Bashing-om> Balzy: looking at 3k5.
[01:37] <Bashing-om> Balzy: try again .. we need that as a complete URL .
[01:38] <Balzy> Bashing-om you mean the pastebin url? isn't working?
[01:40] <Bashing-om> < Balzy: my bad ,, it is good !
[01:46] <dbrom> hello I am wondering if there is an equivallent to $User$ in ubuntu like there is in Windows... sorroy for using the "W" word in this room
[01:46] <gry> dbrom: hi. What does $User$ do?
[01:47] <saiarcot895> dbrom: If I assume $User$ prints out the current user, there is the USER environment variable. In terminal, you can type "echo $USER" (without quotes)
[01:48] <dbrom> when you recover data from a folder such as /home/%user%/ %user% can be what ever user loged in as
[01:48] <dbrom> so $User would do it then
[01:49] <Bashing-om> Balzy: I see no major fault with the sources.list. So let's look what the actual errors are pastebin -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- .
[01:49] <TJ-> dbrom: No, $USER - case IS SIGNIFICANT
[01:50] <dbrom> thanks ill try it ... doing a install/recover script for kubuntu
[01:52] <Balzy> Bashing-om : http://pastebin.com/7c55X7Rs
[01:56] <Bashing-om>  Balz
[01:57] <TJ-> Balzy: Looks like there may be a transparent HTTP proxy between you and the archive mirror, that has stored a bad copy of the Packages list (probably got an inconsistent version when the mirror was being updated)
[01:57] <Bashing-om> Balzy: looking at X7Rs
[01:59] <TJ-> Balzy: You can remove the local package lists and try again ("sudo rm -R /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*") or you can try changing the mirror being used in "/etc/apt/sources.list" from "it.archive.ubuntu.com" to, for example, "archive.ubuntu.com"
[01:59] <Balzy> TJ- already tried with sudo rm /thatpath/*
[02:00] <TJ-> Balzy: So, change the mirror
[02:00] <Balzy> TJ- perhaps could try with any other equivalent repos you say? is it the same if I change them with the us quivalent ones?
[02:05] <TJ-> Balzy: Almost any other would probably work, or you can simply replace the bad file directly (from the main archive server) with "sudo wget -O /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2"
[02:05] <Hex___> DEEEEEEEEP
[02:06] <gry> Deep in what?
[02:06] <Balzy> TJ- replaced with us and it worked perfectly!
[02:07] <Balzy> TJ- the fact that I downloaded those packages from the united states repo doesn't change anything, right?
[02:07] <TJ-> Balzy: You can switch back to the "it" mirror in a couple of days when its proxy cache has has expired
[02:08] <Balzy> update worked well, now I i have 172 pending updates
[02:08] <TJ-> Balzy: No, the mirror servers are just there to put the archive closer to you, hopefully it is faster then
[02:08] <Balzy> okay thanks!
[02:08] <Balzy> so it is a server issue?
[02:10] <jeff__> hello, trying to log in to my account and it is stuck at the password.  not going any further
[02:11] <niee> hi, my sound is not working. need restart to fix. any ideas how to repair?
[02:11] <jeff__> also, this just started after the last reboot
[02:11] <Bashing-om> jeff__: looping back to the GUI login ?
[02:12] <Balzy> Bashing-om, TJ- thankyou very much!
[02:13] <jeff__> Bashing-om: not looping, just sits.  I get the little swirl as it usually does, but then the password box goes away and I am just looking at my userid.  If I hit ESC, I am back at the login
[02:13] <Bashing-om> Balzy: np, why we are here ! TJ done the best work !
[02:14] <niee> how to restart sound in my ubuntu 11,04
[02:14] <Bashing-om> jeff__: New one on me ,, can you log into the system from terminal (ctl+alt+f1) at the GUI login screen ?
[02:15] <jeff__> I am on irssi via tty now.
[02:15] <lars__> Hey, whatś wrong with the kubuntu room?
[02:15] <lars__> I was in there for several minutes, there were 252 users, and yet no messages: complete silence
[02:16] <lars__> thatś really strange: something must be wrong with the kubuntu room
[02:16] <TJ-> jeff__: I've seen that before ... check "/var/log/auth.log" for clues
[02:16] <Bashing-om> jeff__: what returns from -> ls -al .ICEauthority <- ?
[02:16] <zykotick9> jeff__: if you "ls -l" in your home directory, is anything owned by root?
[02:17] <lars__> Has anyone tried the kubuntu channel?  Tell me if the same thing happens to you
[02:17] <ztarded> jeff__: did you make any changes to your graphics driver lately? One time when i was installing the lastest amd proprietary driver, i experienced a similar issue
[02:17] <jeff__> Bashing-om: removed that already
[02:17] <TJ-> jeff__: Have you recently changed your user password?
[02:18] <jeff__> TJ: negative
[02:18] <Bashing-om> jeff__: .ICEauthority ?
[02:18] <TJ-> jeff__: Is the home directory encrypted?
[02:18] <jeff__> zykotick9: Negative
[02:18] <wheatthin> I had installed fglrx drivers, but ubuntu still says using vesa:cedar drivers.. does that mean it's not initiated?
[02:19] <zykotick9> jeff__: sorry, Bashing-om was right, you'd need "ls -al" - anything root owned?
[02:19] <jeff__> Bashing-om: I removed that already and nothing owned by root in my home folder
[02:20] <jeff__> only thing root owned in rpmdb
[02:20] <TJ-> jeff__: Also, check "/var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log" or similar
[02:21] <jeff__> root owned .rpmdb
[02:21] <lars__> Can anyone see this message?
[02:21] <lars__> this is a test
[02:21] <hitsujiTMO> lars__: no
[02:22] <lars__> Whatś wrong with the kubuntu room?
[02:22] <Bashing-om> lars__: do not see no message.
[02:22] <lars__> there are 252 users in the kubuntu channel and no one has chatted for ten minutes
[02:23] <lars__> thatś really bizararre.  What is wrong with the IRC server?  Is the kubuntu channel the only one that doesn¨t work?
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO> lars__: its late on a saturday night. they're prob in the pub. the current users are prob just lurkers
[02:24] <rylo_> lars__: #kubuntu works great on Kubuntu IRC
[02:25] <lars__> wow, 252 lurkers, I never seen that in any channel here, before
[02:25] <hitsujiTMO> lars__: thers about 1.6k lurkers in this room right now
[02:26] <lars__> itś only 8:25 pm Central time in North America, thatś early for Saturday night
[02:26] <hitsujiTMO> lars__: not everyone lives in america
[02:27] <lars__> do you guys support Kubuntu here?
[02:27] <hitsujiTMO> lars__: yes
[02:27] <lars__> Cool, I want to ask about my flash and webcam problems
[02:27] <lars__> Iḿ using Kubuntu 12.04
[02:28] <lars__> and I have a new webcam
[02:28] <jeff__> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6858844/    <-greeter log
[02:28] <lars__> But I have been using Adobe flash for Youtube and news sites for a long time without any problems
[02:28] <teward> !enter | lars__
[02:29] <teward> Worded better, don't use enter as punctuation.  :)
[02:29] <lars__> Ok, I shall use proper punctuation if you wish.
[02:29] <TJ-> jeff__: Ouch!  OK, can you pastebin "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" too?
[02:31] <lars__> I have had a lot of problems trying to update my Adobe flash.
[02:31] <lars__> Iḿ using the Firefox web browser
[02:31] <lars__> .
[02:31] <jeff__> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6858852   <-Xorg.0.log
[02:31] <lars__> period.  Sorry.
[02:32] <Ben64> lars__: thats not what the bot means...
[02:32] <TJ-> jeff_146: Is that all that is in it?
[02:32] <TJ-> oops¬
[02:32] <TJ-> jeff__: Is that all that is in it?
[02:32] <jeff__> TJ: yes, want .old?
[02:32] <lars__> I looked at my Firefox plugins, and the Adobe flash plugin seems to be missing.
[02:32] <TJ-> jeff__: that, or "/var/log/lightdm/x-0.log"
[02:33] <Ben64> !flash | lars__
[02:34] <lars__> Oh.  You want longer sentences, rather than proper punctuation?
[02:35] <hitsujiTMO> lars__: use propper punctuation. just don't hit enter key so often
[02:35] <jeff__> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6858861   <-/var/log/lightdm/x-0.log
[02:36] <lars__> Yes, that means my sentences are too short?  And I was sending a whole bunch of short messages too quickly.  I see.
[02:37] <escambray> #list
[02:37] <hitsujiTMO> !list > escambray
[02:38] <jeff__> TJ: any clues?
[02:41] <TJ-> jeff__: those log files are very short, you'd best let me see the .old ! I need to see the start-up config of the X server
[02:42] <zykotick9> jeff__: do you have another user on the system?  can they login?  perhaps, create one to test (sudo adduser foo).
[02:43] <jeff__> TJ: I've rebooted a few times is probably why they are short.  zykotick9: The only user is guest and that can log in.  I am in on tty though
[02:43] <lars__> ubottu, thatś weird, according to Firefox, I have the Adobe Flash Player 11,2,202,335 installed, but when I looked at my browser, it only shows the adobe Shockwave Flash as installed, and its an earlier version
[02:44] <jeff__> TJ: zykotic9: The only OTHER user is guest.  otherwise, no
[02:44] <lars__> who said, ¨support channel¨?  you mean I should go to firefox channel?
[02:44] <zykotick9> !tab > jeff__
[02:45] <TJ-> jeff__: The log file should be complete after a reboot, because it records the X server starting up.
[02:45] <dbrom> im back
[02:46] <dbrom> can anyon tell me what i use with dpkg tp auto except    apt-get install package -y
[02:46] <mrpizzaface> Bashing-om: yeah this is taking WAYYYYYY too long sorry to waste ya time but im gone
[02:47] <lars__> Actually, this may not be a Firefox issue, now that I consider it after everything that happened when we were updating my flash plugin
[02:47] <lars__> May be the real problem is the websites Iḿ going to
[02:47] <jeff__> zykotick9: new user created and logs in ok.  TJ: You want me to reboot?  Which logs should I pastebinit
[02:48] <lars__> Because when I use flash on YouTube and news sites, flash works, but the problem happens when I try the chat sites
[02:48] <lars__> I tried testing my webcam on chat sites, and thatś when I ran into problems
[02:49] <lars__> May be I should be testing my webcam with skype, instead
[02:49] <zykotick9> jeff__: are you 100% sure, you don't have files owned by root in your home dir?  best of luck!
[02:50] <TJ-> jeff__: If the new user logs in fine, then the Xorg log won't help. You need to focus on the ~/.xsession-errors of the problem user account
[02:51] <fieldfirst> I have trying to build Nginx from source. Successfully ran make. How can I build a .deb package
[02:51] <lars__> I only noticed problems with flash and my webcam when I go onto chat sites
[02:51] <energizer> Hello, I just installed a new wifi PCI card. But no networks are listed. Help?
[02:52] <lars__> so, should my next step be to try testing my cam on skype, or is there a secure website where I can test my webcam?
[02:52] <znf> Hello. What happened to the multiverse package for 12.04 LTS? apt returns 404 :-/
[02:52] <zykotick9> fieldfirst: if you just want it for this box, the "cheap" way is checkinstall - see "/msg ubottu checkinstall" for details (NOTE: DEBs created like this are NOT for distribution)
[02:52] <jeff__> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6858912   <- .xsession-errors
[02:53] <lars__> I don¨t even know if there is a skype application for Kubuntu, because I think Microsoft now owns skype
[02:53] <somsip> !sip | lars__
[02:53] <rww> There is.
[02:54] <lars__> Iḿ using Kubuntu, ubottu, so  is that link still relevant for me?
[02:55] <jeff__> zykotick9: where in particular in my home folder?
[02:56] <zykotick9> jeff__: typically, just in the root of your home.  but anywhere really.
[02:56] <zykotick9> jeff__: i'd guess your issue is elsewhere, but i'd have NO suggestions for ya.  best of luck.
[02:57] <TJ-> jeff__: Try this: "sudo service lightdm stop && sudo rm /var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority && sudo service lightdm start"
[02:57] <lars__> Oh yeah, that must be it.  The chat sites are probably configured for later versions of flash.  And the latest version of flash avaiable to Kubuntu is 11,2
[02:58] <lars__> 11,2 must be an outdated version of flash, that explains the problems i have on the chat sites, right?
[02:58] <lars__> the real problem is the chat sites expect everyone to be using Windows, not Linux, right?
[02:58] <TJ-> lars__: The real problem is Flash.
[02:59] <lars__> What do you mean by that, TJ?
[03:00] <lars__> you mean, because Flash is vulnerable to hackers?  Are the hackers causing our plugin problems?
[03:01] <TJ-> lars__: Flash used in place of HTML/Javascript/CSS
[03:01] <lars__> TJ, please be more specific
[03:02] <jeff__> TJ: brb, rebooting
[03:03] <lars__> Do you mean that we should not have to use Flash?  Can we use another plugin that is more secure and with less bugs?  Like the Windows guys who use HTML5 instead of Flash for a plugin?
[03:04] <lars__> I figured itś safe to use flash on the Linux platform, unlike Windows
[03:04] <TJ-> lars__: That's the point, not needing use an external plugin that utilises another language and a virtual machine in order to render its output
[03:05] <lars__> is there an alternative to using the Adobe Flash plugin for linux now?
[03:06] <lars__> Oh that makes sense.  The problem is the very nature of Adobe Flash.
[03:07] <lars__> thatś weird.  On the Windows platform, I never had any bugs with flash, but itś not secure on Windows
[03:07] <lars__> With Linux, thee problems with flash are different: itś more of a technical/language problem, apparently
[03:08] <lars__> am I right?
[03:12] <user2> clear
[03:13] <lars__> ubottu, does Ekiga work with Kubuntu?
[03:13] <jamesd> opaque
[03:15] <lars__> What is a VoIP provider?
[03:24] <josh_> Hey guys, I've noticed strange behavior on my server when I try to tab-complete things. See http://paste.ubuntu.com/6859028/ . I was trying to autocomplete "java", but got a bunch of unexpected output.
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:28] <dupingping86> Hi all
[03:29] <josh_> Hey guys, I've noticed strange behavior on my server when I try to tab-complete things. See http://paste.ubuntu.com/6859028/ . I was trying to autocomplete "java", but got a bunch of unexpected output.
[03:30] <SchrodingersScat> !patience | josh_
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> josh_: whats the hexxit part for?
[03:31] <josh_> it's a variant of a minecraft server.
[03:31] <josh_> I just happened to be in the directory.
[03:32] <josh_> The output looks like it has to do with the shell parsing my input for completion.
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> josh_: what are you trying to exactly?
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> !info javacword
[03:32] <josh_> lotuspsychje: I'm trying to install the necessary java components to run the server minecraft server jarfile.
[03:33] <jeff__> TJ: are you on?
[03:33] <josh_> lotuspsychje: I only typed "sudo apt-get install java [TAB]"
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> josh_: why do you tab if you only need java?
[03:34] <advx> Hi all Good Morning
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> advx: hello mate
[03:34] <stew__> hello
[03:34] <josh_> lotuspsychje: According to my server (which was debootstrapped during install -- that may have altered some default config), package "java" doesn't exist, so I was trying to see the list of suggestions
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> !java | josh_
[03:35] <advx> Hello lotuspsychje
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> josh_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/245563/running-minecraft-server-on-ubuntu-server
[03:36] <josh_> lotuspsychje: that's what I needed - the actual package names.
[03:36] <anton02> intel haswell z87-d3h gigabyte intel haswell hdmi output to tv is causing static sound thats last .2 seconds and occurs every 30 seconds approximately. How do i fix this?
[03:38] <jeff__> I want to copy a user...how?
[03:39] <madyourse> jeff__: just copy users folder and save it to a new name. Then create user with name of newly named folder?
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> anton02: did you try with xrandr?
[03:39] <anton02> intel haswell z87-d3h gigabyte hdmi output to tv is causing static sound thats last .2 seconds and occurs every 30 seconds approximately when playing audio. How do i fix this?
[03:39] <anton02> xrandr?
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | anton02
[03:40] <jeff__> madyourse: from command line.  My current gui login is borked but I can login from tty
[03:40] <anton02> but that's wrong
[03:40] <anton02> I'm not talking about graphics but audio
[03:40] <jeff__> madyourse: create a new user from an existing user at the command line
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> anton02: you are trying to fix audio from laptop to your tv with hdmi cable?
[03:41] <advx> df -h not showing proper results coz wen I execute a script that generates a file 'txt' its not able to create that file as disk is full
[03:41] <anton02> lotuspsychje: did you not know hdmi is a carrier of sound as well as video
[03:41] <advx> after I delete some files it becomes ok
[03:41] <madyourse> jeff__: look up terminal cmds for that such as MV or cp.
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> anton02: yes i know this...and want to findout what your purpose is exactly
[03:42] <jeff__> madyourse: only have cli right now.
[03:42] <anton02> lotuspsychje: i dont even know what was wrong with my original explanation
[03:42] <mnemon> jeff__: man cp
[03:42] <mnemon> jeff__: and man useradd
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> anton02: ubuntu version plz?
[03:44] <anton02> 13.10
[03:44] <madyourse> jeff__: create root account login access. sudo -i
[03:44] <madyourse> jeff__: then. sudo passwd root
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> anton02: maybe this can help? http://itsfoss.com/how-to-fix-no-sound-through-hdmi-in-external-monitor-in-ubuntu/
[03:45] <anton02> i do have sound but ill check it out
[03:46] <anton02> fuck it linux is still fucked
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> !language | anton02
[03:46] <nobitanobi> I have a question that I haven't been able to find an answer for. What is the proper way to make Apache be able to serve folders that are not under /var/www ? I have to projects located in /home/novito/JoomlaTest and another in /home/novito/TestPhp.
[03:46] <madyourse> jeff__: are you going to reinstall Ubuntu.
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> nobitanobi: maybe the #httpd guys might know your issue?
[03:47] <thel0rax> how does it people? new to linux here. no questions, just hi =]
[03:47] <nobitanobi> Thanks lotuspsychje
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> thel0rax: welcome mate, this is an ubuntu support channel
[03:48] <jeff__> madyourse: are you talking about the conversation earlier?  I was thinking of just creating another user based on the current user..
[03:48] <thel0rax> I'm trying to install utorrent, and I can't figure out how exactly. I've got the tar.gz, now I'm stuck lol very new
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> thel0rax: ubuntu has transmission by default installed, its very neat to use..did you try?
[03:49] <tomreyn> nobitanobi: the general process is to create a new VirtualHost and set it's DocumentRoot to this directory (add a new virtualhost for each location)
[03:49] <tomreyn> there's also #ubuntu-server
[03:49] <nobitanobi> tomreyn, interesting, I will try that
[03:50] <jeff__> madyourse: scratch install was the second option.
[03:50] <madyourse> jeff__: just boot from install disk or USB then copy the directory to USB or maybe online cloud to recover later. That's if you just want to reinstall.
[03:50] <thel0rax> transmission by default?
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> !info transmission | thel0rax
[03:51] <madyourse> jeff__: user directory usually just has user documents and program preferences.
[03:51] <thel0rax> oh! just found it. can't believe I didn't explore a little xD
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> thel0rax: no sweat, its very pro package
[03:52] <thel0rax> I'm going to be hanging out in this channel a lot. this is a whole new language to me
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> thel0rax: if you need other handy packages, feel free to ask
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> thel0rax: you have entered the magic ubuntu experience :p
[03:53] <thel0rax> if only i could use wow emotes. I'm not even sure how you're straightup replying
[03:54] <stew_> d
[03:54] <stew_> send
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> thel0rax: do you mean nick completion?
[03:55] <thel0rax> I suppose.
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> !tab | thel0rax
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> Beldar: morning mate
[03:55] <tomreyn> thel0rax: you prefix your message with the name of the person you're addressing, like this: "thel0rax: i'm talking to you."
[03:56] <thel0rax> tomreyn: I didn't know if there was a shortcut to reply to the last message, like /r
[03:56] <Beldar> moning ;)
[03:56] <madyourse> lotuspsychje: nick completion is program and program settings dependent. Default usually is the tab key.
[03:57] <Es0teric> apache2 a2ensite sitename is saying the site doesnt exist
[03:57] <tomreyn> thel0rax: not really not. this is IRC, it was there loooooooong before there was wow, and before there were emoticons
[03:57] <thel0rax> Itomreyn: i believe it. it makes me think of the old BBS
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> madyourse: tab is what i just sugested to him..
[03:57] <thel0rax> effin typos
[03:58] <tomreyn> thel0rax: well that was a little earlier yet ;)
[03:58] <madyourse> lotuspsychje: oh sorry.
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> Es0teric: try the #httpd or #ubuntu-server guys mate
[03:58] <thel0rax> ok, concerning transmission, how can I connect the two? like if I select the magnet download link, it asks what program to use
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> madyourse: no sweat :p
[03:58] <Es0teric> lotuspsychje #httpd people told me to come here
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> thel0rax: copy the magnet link then open in transmission
[03:59] <madyourse> Es0teric: what site
[03:59] <Es0teric> madyourse my site
[04:00] <Es0teric> i was just using that as an example
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> Es0teric: can you explain what you tryed
[04:00] <jeff__> madyourse: so, create a recovery USB from command line
[04:00] <madyourse> Es0teric: what does http://127.0.0.1 do
[04:00] <thel0rax> lotuspsychje: I'm used to windows, where it is just a click lol sorry for all the ?s, but where is the magnet link? it keeps trying to launch the program query
[04:00] <Es0teric> madyourse i tried `a2ensite mysite`
[04:01] <Es0teric> madyourse i tried `sudo a2ensite mysite` *
[04:01] <Es0teric> and i get "site does not exist!"
[04:01] <madyourse> Try the address I gave you
[04:01] <Es0teric> same thing with a2dissite
[04:01] <Es0teric> madyourse i am doing that remotely not locally
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> thel0rax: instead of leftmouse click, use right mouse click on the magnet/then paste it into transmission (open link)
[04:02] <madyourse> Es0teric: you set up your own server
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> thel0rax: open url (in transmission)
[04:02] <Es0teric> madyourse i set up a lamp server on a VPS yes
[04:02] <madyourse> Es0teric: you set up your own server. Now your trying to connect to it from another machine????
[04:03] <Es0teric> madyourse no i am trying to make the site work
[04:03] <thel0rax> lotuspsychje: I get new tab, new window, new private window, bookmark, save as, copy link location, and inspect element
[04:03] <madyourse> Es0teric: do you know how to open ports on Ubuntu and open ports on your router??
[04:04] <Es0teric> madyourse this all happens on the command line
[04:04] <Es0teric> this is not happening on the site itself
[04:04] <thel0rax> once I get my thick head wrapped around this, I shouldn't need to ask again lol
[04:04] <glitsj16> Es0teric: do you have 'mysite' file in /etc/apache2/sites-available ? the a2ensite needs that, otherwise it can't produce the symlink in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> thel0rax: you need to make transmission as active window ontop first, your in firefox now
[04:04] <Es0teric> glitsj16 yes i do
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> thel0rax: unity handles options ontop on the active window
[04:05] <glitsj16> Es0teric: it's only a symlink, try making it yourself and restart apache
[04:05] <madyourse> Es0teric: if lamp is installed on ubuntu either disable the firewall or open port 80. Then you need to open port 80 on your router.
[04:06] <tomreyn> madyourse: he's working on a rmote server, he most likely doesn't have accress to the router there, and if there's a firewall it will be a software firewall he installed.
[04:07] <thel0rax> lotuspsychje: ok, I'm just not understanding something here. please remember I'm brand new and speak to me as if I'm a child =]
[04:07] <thel0rax> lotuspsychje: ffs. drag and drop?
[04:07] <madyourse> tomreyn: that's possible. But some do set up remote access to router. But I doubt he did.
[04:08] <tomreyn> madyourse: so he's /not/ trying to host something from home for the world.
[04:08] <tomreyn> i don't think he wants/needs to
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> thel0rax: just click on the transmission icon, to have the window ontop, then paste magnet link
[04:08] <Es0teric> glitsj16 i recreated the file, restarted apache2 and tried to enable the file again and it says "site does not exist!"
[04:08] <Es0teric> but i CLEARLY SEE IT IN sites-available
[04:09] <thel0rax> lotuspsychje: I just dragged the magnet link into transmission. it started immediately. I'm guessing that works too?
[04:09] <sjm> Es0teric, but do you see it in sites-enabled?
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> thel0rax: never tryed it :p might work
[04:09] <madyourse> Es0teric: you doing this in a virtual machine and what are both operating systems
[04:09] <thel0rax> lotuspsychje: occam's razor and all that =]
[04:10] <ols> hello. i have an ubuntu with no internet (ethernet or wireless), how can i copy packages to this machine (from internet_machine) and tell the offline_machine to intall those packages? i tried one idea here but no luck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline/Repository
[04:10] <Es0teric> sjm yes i see it in sites-enabled
[04:10] <Es0teric> its not enabled though
[04:10] <madyourse> Es0teric: you doing this in a virtual machine and what are both operating systems
[04:10] <Es0teric> because when i go to site.com its not showing the dir
[04:10] <thel0rax> ols: I just went through this. I had to use a flash drive and a college computer
[04:10] <glitsj16> Es0teric: odd indeed, anything in your apache error log?
[04:10] <Es0teric> madyourse i said VPS, clearly ubuntu
[04:10] <Es0teric> glitsj16 let me check my error log
[04:11] <ols> thel0rax: i can't boot from a USB with offline_machine, if that's what you mean by flash drive
[04:11] <sjm> Es0teric, jumping in the middle, sorry if already answered, but does "apache2ctl -S" show it?
[04:11] <madyourse> Es0teric: so your running Ubuntu inside Ubuntu?
[04:11] <Es0teric> madyourse i am running lion right now, the VPS has ubuntu
[04:11] <thel0rax> ols: oops, misread that part
[04:11] <Es0teric> sjm, glitsj16 this is the last entry in my error log .8-3+sury.org~precise+2 configured -- resuming normal operations
[04:12] <Es0teric> [Sun Feb 02 04:06:22.177377 2014] [core:notice] [pid 6300] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | ols
[04:13] <Es0teric> sjm its not showing the new default directory i set from my site config, its showing the default config from the "default" file
[04:13] <ols> lotuspsychje: what is !info aptoncd?
[04:13] <madyourse> Es0teric: sounds like a firewall issue. Ubuntu puts up a firewall blocking most serving ports by default.
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> ols: use this package to download your favorite packages, and install on your offline machine
[04:14] <Es0teric> madyourse the site was working before i upgraded to PHP 5.5
[04:14] <sjm> Es0teric, sounds like it's not seeing your config file if it's not in "apache2ctl -S"
[04:14] <ols> ubottu and lotuspsychje: so aptoncd can be on internet_machine, download packages, and then transfer somehow to offline_machine that does not currently have aptoncd package?
[04:14] <glitsj16> Es0teric: run sjm's command .. might be a syntax error, and/or check apache's access.log
[04:15] <sjm> Es0teric, "apache2ctl -t" to test the syntax of the configs, too.
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> ols: yes you can install those packages on your offline machine then
[04:15] <sjm> then use curl from the local box to rule out firewall issues.
[04:15] <Es0teric> sjm -> Syntax OK
[04:15] <Poss-mobile> Gday folks. I'm having a bit of a dodgy run of late, seems like every time i update ubuntu gnome it breaks yhe driver/x/lightdm.  Usually its fixed by reinstalling the latest nvidia driver from the terminal, but today its not working.
[04:15] <satu> ..
[04:16] <madyourse> Server software reminder 101. Always run backup upgrade to test before upgrading mainline.
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> ols: another way is to add your CDROM to sources on your offline machine and grab packages from there aswell
[04:16] <Poss-mobile> Basically the symptom is that i get the logon screen, but logging in boots me straight back to the login screen
[04:17] <madyourse> Es0teric: now we narrowed it down to php5. Pulling teeth out of a live shark is easier.
[04:17] <ols> lotuspsychje and ubottu: i was barely able to get 10.04 on offline_machine with PXE install, but PXE install left it without ethernet or wifi, so i'm hoping major update/upgrade will give it packages it needs. it's a crapshoot at this point
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> Poss-mobile: try a recoverymode from grub?
[04:17] <Poss-mobile> Thing is though, if i sudo start x, it starts lightdm, but logged in as root.
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> ols: are you on 10.04 server?
[04:17] <Poss-mobile> Righto lotus, I'll give her a go
[04:17] <ols> i can't get it to open CDROM right now from offline_machine (this thing is crippled)
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> ols: 10.04 desktop is eol
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> Poss-mobile: try a failsafeX from the recoverymode
[04:19] <madyourse> Es0teric: that sounds cool to be running a served version of ubuntu from your Mac. You must have a beast of a Mac machine.
[04:20] <ols> lotuspsychje: 10.04 desktop is a baseline install just to get something, (i can't boot from USB or CD/DVD so i had to do 10.04 PXE install instead of 12.04 USB install)
[04:20] <Es0teric> madyourse dude… i have Digital Ocean… its not on my mac lol
[04:20] <ols> i'm trying to escape 10.04 no internet land
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> ols: as 10.04 is eol you cant go anywhere from there
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> ols: how come you cant enable usb boot to your machine?
[04:22] <ols> lotuspsychje: it's a terrible toshiba
[04:23] <mnemon> Es0teric: do you get 404 or the wrong site or what?
[04:23] <madyourse> Es0teric: that's way above me. Sorry. Virtual box. Maybe lamp is my limits
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> ols: try playin bios a bit, see if you get it to boot
[04:23] <AndroidLoverInSF> anyone used pdfocr with tesseract?
[04:23] <Es0teric> mnemon no i do not get a 404
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> ols: 12.04 will ease up your life :p
[04:23] <ols> well, frustrated. UNetBootin keeps failing to work today and PXE install has no internet. this toshiba is known to not boot USB and be bad even with CD/DVD
[04:24] <ols> i'm trying to get to 12.04
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> ols: you have access to another ubuntu machine to create ubuntu usb?
[04:24] <mih1406> Docky does not allow me to disable "manage windows without launcher". Who can help me to disable it?
[04:24] <mnemon> Es0teric: so what's the issue? do you get a response? the wrong website? timeout?
[04:25] <ols> i'm on internet_machine (ubuntu) right now, but offline_machine will not boot USB
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> mih1406: try cairodock mate
[04:25] <Es0teric> mnemon the issue is that its not using the site config i put on sites-available… so when i do a2ensite [site] it says "site doesnt exist!"
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> ols: try burn your 12.04 iso with startup disk creator from ubuntu to your usb
[04:26] <mnemon> Es0teric: you can just symlink the config there manuallz
[04:26] <mnemon> -z+y
[04:26] <mih1406> I tried that first, but no dock appears in my Ubuntu GNOME
[04:26] <Es0teric> mnemon give me a sec
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> mih1406: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[04:26] <ols> lotuspsychje: sadly, offline_machine will not boot USB, no way
[04:27] <Poss-mobile> So i gave xfailsafe a burl, and it cant detect my screen, graphics card and input, and low graphics mode just kicks me back to the recovery menu
[04:27] <mih1406> 13.10
[04:27] <mih1406> lotuspsychje, 13.10
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> Poss-mobile: ouch.. maybe fix broken packages from the recoverymode?
[04:27] <mnemon> Es0teric: also #digitalocean is pretty good for this stuff since you're using their vps and all ;)
[04:28] <Es0teric> I JUST CHANGED
[04:28] <Es0teric> THE PERMISSIONS AND STILL
[04:28] <Es0teric> WTF
[04:28] <FloodBot1> Es0teric: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> Poss-mobile: i once fixxed a broken 13.10 system on graphics like that(might take a long time :)
[04:28] <AndroidLoverInSF> anybody here switched over from using a macbook?
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> !mac | AndroidLoverInSF
[04:28] <mnemon> Es0teric: just create a symlink in sites-enabled to the sites-available config -> restart apache -> test
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> ols: try the ##harware guys and ask if there's a way to force your toshiba to boot media first
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> ols: maybe a bios flash update?
[04:30] <spispopd> the mactel support page is outdated
[04:30] <ols> lotuspsychje: ok, i'll check the #hardware channel. thanks :)
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> spispopd: alot of triggers are outdated...
[04:30] <ols> is that #hardware or #ubuntu-hardware or....?
[04:31] <Es0teric> mnemon how do i create a symlink again?
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> ols: ##hardware (regular chat)
[04:31] <nightlingo> hi! how can I see what chicpset is my wifi card ? thanks
[04:31] <mnemon> Es0teric: check the other channel for the answer :)
[04:32] <Es0teric> mnemon ok
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> nightlingo: lshw -C network
[04:32] <nightlingo> thanks!
[04:32] <nullic> what's up everybody
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> nightlingo: also check what next to driver=
[04:33] <nightlingo> lotuspsychje that was exactly what I was looking for man. thanks!
[04:33] <ols> a different tact: how can i get my ethernet or wifi working? i don't even see an icon in the desktop panel at this point
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> !yay | nightlingo
[04:34] <nightlingo> :)
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> ols: we cant support your 10.04 mate
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> ols: first get 12.04 or higher
[04:35] <ols> has anyone ever tried this and succeeded? Go to this web address http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ and then to the SuiteCodename of the Ubuntu installed in your hard disk (intrepid, jaunty, karmic, ...) and download the files :      Release     Release.gpg     And the Contents files for your architecture (i.e Contents-i386.gz ,if you architecture is i386).
[04:35] <ols> lotuspsychje: yeah, i see what you mean. ok, trying to get to 12.04...
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> ols: after you got 12.04 we will help your wifi to work
[04:38] <Poss-mobile> Xserver-xorg-video-intel install fails, failed to resolve ppa.launchpad.net
[04:41] <tomreyn> Poss-mobile: your DNS server isn't responding properly
[04:42] <tomreyn> $ host ppa.launchpad.net
[04:42] <tomreyn> ppa.launchpad.net has address 91.189.95.83
[04:42] <tomreyn> ...or you're having connectivity issues
[04:42] <NFD_> I've got a problem! Woohoo!
[04:43] <tomreyn> NFD_: finally, we've been waiting for you to come around and say so all night!
[04:43] <NFD_> I'm getting a popup that says "32) Not authorized to control networking." when I try to do basically anything with nm-applet
[04:43] <NFD_> tomreyn: i knew it! :D
[04:44] <hansford> Just downloaded 13.4....and in firefox I need to update my flash player...and I need help....newbie with ubuntu
[04:44] <NFD_> problem is, i like to control my networking'
[04:44] <NFD_> hansford: Have you updated yet?
[04:45] <tomreyn> NFD_: that's kind of understandable. i'm unsure how you would end up in this situation in the first place, but give this a try: http://askubuntu.com/questions/304159/not-authorized-to-control-networking
[04:45] <hansford> Been trying NFD....but with no luck
[04:45] <hansford> not sure if I doing it right
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> hansford: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:45] <NFD_> okay, can you go open a terminal? you should be able to do this from unity's lens
[04:46] <NFD_> hansford: go click on the ubuntu logo in the upper-left, and type in "terminal"
[04:46] <NFD_> lemme know when one pops up, please
[04:46] <hansford> ok....last time i have typed commands was pre window 95 with dos 6.22
[04:46] <NFD_> that's fine, you'll be able to get it
[04:46] <Satu> send
[04:47] <tomreyn> Satu: what would you like us to send to you today? icecream?
[04:47] <Satu> haha, cheers
[04:48] <jeffrey_f> have gnome....how do I set the type of environment?  I had it set to the old style.
[04:48] <NFD_> hansford: figured it out yet?
[04:49] <NFD_> jeffrey_f: you might be able to pick between gnome3 session "types" in the login screen
[04:49] <NFD_> might
[04:49] <tomreyn> jeffrey_f: do you mean the window manager and desktop? such as unity, xfce, fluxbox?
[04:50] <hansford> let me check fox now
[04:50] <jeffrey_f> NFD: exactly what I am talking about.  I don't get the options.  tomreyn: I think so, but no options to choose from
[04:52] <hansford> still not working
[04:52] <NFD_> hansford: once you've got the terminal open, please try running "sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:52] <NFD_> "
[04:52] <NFD_> you'll need to type in your password. this is okay.
[04:53] <rww> that'll only sudo the first command in that sequence fyi
[04:53] <NFD_> just copy-paste all that stuff in there, and hit enter
[04:53] <hansford> stand by
[04:53] <NFD_> hansford: will do :D
[04:54] <tomreyn> jeffrey_f: you can install ubuntu-desktop (unity), xubuntu-desktop (xfce), kubuntu-desktop (kde), lubuntu-desktop (lxde) and a couple more. once installed, these will show up in settings during login.
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a tool that can grab all url's from a webpage and collect them
[04:55] <dmitrix> Hello!
[04:55] <nightlingo> I have a TP-LINK TL-WN322 v2 USB card and runs perfectly on my ubuntu (being recognized as: zd1211rw) however, the same card on another machine of mine (running BAMT, a linux derivative) is not recognized. any ideas on how to make it work?
[04:55] <NFD_> nightlingo: you have all the drivers for it on your BAMT machine?
[04:56] <dmitrix> I'm taking a class on linux. I'm confused by the manpages sections. Is there a way to look at one entire sections?
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> nightlingo: same ubuntu version?
[04:56] <dmitrix> section*
[04:56] <nightlingo> NFD_ I don't know that. How can I check?
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> !man | dmitrix
[04:56] <nightlingo> lotuspsychje no, the other machine is running BAMT, a linux deriativev
[04:56] <tomreyn> nightlingo: talk to whoever supports BAMT, we onyly support ubuntu here
[04:56] <NFD_> nightlingo: is it a distro or a different kernel?
[04:56] <dmitrix> lotuspsychje: thanks
[04:57] <NFD_> nightlingo: tomreyn's right, this probably isn't the best place to ask
[04:57] <nightlingo> NFD_ unfortunately the community is kinda sparse on that
[04:57] <NFD_> tomreyn: but BAMT is based on debian, so it ain't too far out
[04:57] <NFD_> it is linux.
[04:58] <nightlingo> NFD_  uname -a gives: Linux bamt-miner1 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Mon Jan 16 16:04:25 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:58] <tomreyn> NFD_: so? you could take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you like
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> NFD_: tomreyn is correct, only ubuntu here
[04:59] <Flat4ForLife> hey faugusztin are you around?
[04:59] <nightlingo> ok guys
[04:59] <rww> tomreyn: #ubuntu-offtopic isn't a support channel, for Ubuntu or otherwise
[05:00] <tomreyn> so to #linux then i guess
[05:00] <NFD_> nightlingo: i'd go and look up linux drivers for that model of card
[05:01] <Flat4ForLife> anyone here have experience trying to dual boot ubuntu on a mac without a CD?
[05:01] <nightlingo> NFD_  ok man thanks!
[05:01] <NFD_> haha
[05:02] <tomreyn> Flat4ForLife: i don't, but it *should* work if you have a usb key
[05:03] <Flat4ForLife> yea I've tried multiple ways and can't get it to boot to install, so looking for some help
[05:03] <NFD_> Flat4ForLife: do you want to run a live session, or install it all the way onto the mac?
[05:03] <Flat4ForLife> install onto a second partition
[05:03] <hansford> NFD  I am doing sudo....its going fine then the last thing it says Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[05:03] <hansford> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[05:03] <hansford> ...the computer going find out what I did in the Army
[05:03] <NFD_> okay
[05:04] <Flat4ForLife> the farthest that i have been able to get is to a grub menu to run a live ubuntu or install, but after i choose an option it just kicks me to a black screen
[05:04] <NFD_> hansford: sorry, try "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[05:04] <NFD_> hansford: and you better not be messing with me :P
[05:05] <Flat4ForLife> and i don't know anything about grub, but i tried to edit it before i loaded it to point to the correct spot for ubuntu.seed because it points to cdrom, which its obviously not there. but no luck
[05:07] <Flat4ForLife> anyone have any ideas?
[05:07] <Flat4ForLife> holy cow, whats with all these people leaving haha
[05:08] <ols> hello. i'm on 12.04 live, when in 10.04 i run this command to get wireless without restart: cd /cdrom/pool/main/p/patch sudo dpkg -i patch*
[05:08] <rww> Flat4ForLife: freenode is having stability issues again
[05:08] <Flat4ForLife> ah ok
[05:08] <tomreyn> Flat4ForLife: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[05:08] <ols> i can't find p/patch on 12.04, anyone know where it is?
[05:08] <ols> on the 12.04 LiveCD that is?
[05:09] <Flat4ForLife> tomreyn: that seems to be for a CD. I'm trying to use a USB
[05:09] <hansford> getting the same message... going to try synaptic package manager
[05:09] <Flat4ForLife> and I've tried the instructions on the ubuntu website for the USB with no luck
[05:09] <NFD_> hansford: good plan. Or ubuntu software center
[05:10] <logily> hello everyone, Is there any alternative to skype for linux?
[05:10] <ols> jitsi
[05:10] <ols> logily: check out jitsi for all platforms
[05:10] <rww> i note that jitsi is buggy as hell
[05:11] <rww> i use it all the time, but it definitely is not stable
[05:11] <tomreyn> Flat4ForLife: replace the instructions on the ubuntuinstall cd by this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[05:11] <ols> rww: didn't they just push a new release?
[05:11] <rww> ols: yes. now there are /different/ bugs :3
[05:11] <Poss-mobile> Packages all seem repaired, and the dns issue is resolved. Still cant login, xsafe still fails
[05:11] <ols> anyone with ideas on how i can get 12.04 LiveCD wireless up and running?
[05:12] <Flat4ForLife> tomreyn: i have tried that. when using that method, after choosing the USB during boot, it goes to a message saying "No bootable media detected"
[05:12] <ols> logily: bonus of jitsi is encryption is built in, so very easy to encrypt chat, phone, and video
[05:12] <logily> thx for info
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Poss-mobile: did you install nvidia-current?
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> Poss-mobile: did you clean install or upgraded?
[05:14] <tomreyn> Flat4ForLife: see the "MacBook Air 3,2" paragraph here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[05:15] <tomreyn> Flat4ForLife: yafter creating a complete backup, the first thing you should do is install "refit" or it's newer replacement "refind"
[05:15] <Flat4ForLife> tomreyn: i have tried that as well, same result
[05:15] <Flat4ForLife> i have refund installed, it detects the bootable USB
[05:15] <Flat4ForLife> but once chosen, it goes to the "no bootable media"
[05:16] <Flat4ForLife> the only way i have even been able to slightly get it to work is to use unetbootin and boot through a grub screen
[05:16] <Flat4ForLife> but once i choose install or run live ubuntu it goes to a black screen and nothing
[05:16] <ols> can i copy /cdrom/pool/main/p/patch to my 12.04 LiveCD and then install sudo dpkg -i patch* from that folder?
[05:16] <Poss-mobile> Xsafe into low graphica mode now results in blackscreen, and makes ctrl alt f1 fail to do anything
[05:17] <tomreyn> Flat4ForLife: right, sorry i misunderstood that paragraph myself. it's just a problem description, not a solution. i'm afraid i can't help.
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> Poss-mobile: maybe go back to 12.04 lts? and soon 14.04
[05:18] <Flat4ForLife> tomreyn: no worries, thanks for trying though
[05:21] <ols> what is expected release date for 14.04 LTS?
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> !trusty | ols
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> !release | ols
[05:26] <ols> sorry, i was looking for details of when in april, but maybe that is not known.
[05:27] <Ben64> ols: supposed to be 17th, but 14.04 is not on topic here
[05:32] <ols> back to topic: how can i get my 12.04 wireless to work without restart?
[05:40] <Ziber> Hey, I have three disks in a server that I'm trying to install Ubuntu on, using raid5 with three disks. In manual partition mode of the installer, I'm only getting the option to use one of the disks as a "physical volume for RAID". What should I do with the other two?
[05:41] <Psil0Cybin> Ziber: !!
[05:41] <spinningcompass> ols: Restart the network service(s)? I can't remember. Does ubuntu use systemd or upstart?
[05:41] <Psil0Cybin> I justh ad this issue
[05:41] <Psil0Cybin> Ziber: it is a SOFTWARE RAID!
[05:41] <rww> spinningcompass: upstart
[05:41] <Psil0Cybin> Ziber: you need to go in Bios
[05:41] <Psil0Cybin> and remove windows raid crap
[05:41] <spinningcompass> ah, m//m
[05:41] <Psil0Cybin> sorry for language.
[05:41] <Psil0Cybin> Ziber: then you need to raid it manually using Ubuntu
[05:42] <Psil0Cybin> Ziber: remove all Legacy settings in Bios.
[05:42] <Ziber> Psil0Cybin: So just use the first one as raid and leave the other two? Or set them all as ext4?
[05:42] <Psil0Cybin> no no Ziber what you will do is
[05:42] <Psil0Cybin> unraid your hard drives (take away the software raid) it will show up as 3 Different hard drives on ubuntu install after.
[05:42] <Psil0Cybin> and then from there you can raid it as one system.
[05:42] <Psil0Cybin> again
[05:42] <Psil0Cybin> because let me guess
[05:42] <Psil0Cybin> all you can see is 1 TB hard drive?
[05:42] <ols> spinningcompass: i am missing b43-fwcutter package which i can install without restart on 10.04 but not on 12.04 because 12.04 is missing ../pool/main/p/patch directory
[05:42] <Psil0Cybin> out of 3?
[05:43] <Ziber> I haven't finished the install process. There is no RAID yet, just three harddrives.
[05:43] <spinningcompass> ols: Ugh. I'm sorry to hear that.
[05:44] <whoever> Psil0Cybin: can on only see one hd?
[05:45] <whoever> Psil0Cybin: do the others even show up as boot options when you hit f8
[05:46] <dfgas_> hi
[05:46] <dfgas_> how do i set resolution system wide, not just per user? because when i log back out it goes back 1280*1024
[05:46] <dfgas_> i need 1400x900
[05:47] <Kamilion> is AMD geode still usable for i386 builds?
[05:47] <whoever> descala: setting > display
[05:47] <rww> Kamilion: is that the one that can't use PAE?
[05:48] <Kamilion> not sure
[05:48] <Kamilion> boss asked me to wipe a bunch of little appliance machines
[05:48] <rww> looks like. if so, I think Lubuntu has compat for it, don't think the other flavors do
[05:48] <Kamilion> ah great, lubuntu's my normal base; but AFAIK it just uses the same -generic kernels as the others, right?
[05:49] <Ziber> So, I did guided partitioning, with one of the disks mounting for /. I'll worry about raiding when it installs.
[05:49] <Kamilion> http://axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=470
[05:49] <Kamilion> these little guys
[05:49] <Kamilion> "AMD Geode LX800"
[05:49] <rww> Kamilion: oh, wait, I'm thinking of fake-pae, which doesn't apply for that one
[05:50] <rww> Kamilion: iirc 10.04 is the last release that supports stuff that actually doesn't have pae at all
[05:50] <Kamilion> okay, thanks, that helps a lot.
[05:50] <Micael> Hello, I am struggling with an annoying issue for an hour. Would anyone be able to tell me what is wrong with /etc/environment? It doesn't get loaded at all
[05:50] <Kamilion> does 10.04 have a recent python-2.7 in 10.04.4 or whatever the last current was?
[05:51] <Psil0Cybin> Ziber: if that is the case, then you can raid the system when you partition it
[05:51] <Psil0Cybin> there will be a setting to raid the system
[05:51] <Psil0Cybin> do not wait till after you install the system to raid it...
[05:51] <Ben64> 10.04 is no longer supported for desktop systems
[05:51] <Psil0Cybin> you have to custom
[05:51] <Micael> Just checked that /etc/environment is loaded for root only... Isn't there a way to set it to every user? kinda lame.
[05:51] <Psil0Cybin> partition it
[05:51] <Ziber> Psil0Cybin: My initial question was wondering how I was supposed to do that. You made it sound like I could do that post-install. (Also, this is a VM and is easy to redo.)
[05:52] <Psil0Cybin> Ziber: Ohhhh Virtual Machine I cannot help you man, I never did that...I just bought a system that was supposed to be raided but it only showed 1 Hard drive...for me.
[05:52] <Psil0Cybin> maybe we have different issues.
[05:52] <Dreadnought> join #plagueflight plaguebringer
[05:53] <Ziber> It's exactly the same, virtual or not. It doesn't know it's virtual and until a minute ago, neither did you.
[05:53] <Es0teric> can someone tell me what this permission is in number? drwxrwxr-x
[05:53] <Ziber> 776?
[05:53] <Micael> 775, i guess
[05:53] <Dreadnought>  /join #plagueflight plaguebringer
[05:53] <Ziber> Oh, yeah. 775
[05:53] <Micael> ;-)
[05:53] <Micael> Ziber, what is wrong?
[05:54] <Es0teric> Micael, Ziber thats not 776 or 775
[05:54] <Ziber> I'm playing around with RAID and have three disks in a VM that I want to RAID-5 together.
[05:54] <Kamilion> hm, can't find anything saying the LX800 has or lacks pae
[05:54] <Dreadnought>  /join #plagueflight plaguebringer
[05:55] <Micael> Oh, i see... No idea how to help, sorry. hahaha
[05:55] <Micael> Es0teric, i'm pretty sure it is 775... Just tested it.
[05:55] <Ziber> :(
[05:55] <Kamilion> thanks much rww
[05:55] <Es0teric> Micael i just tested it too
[05:55] <Es0teric> its not 775
[05:55] <Ziber> Psil0Cybin: Can you walk me through the menus?
[05:56] <Es0teric> Micael 775 is this -> -rwxrwxr-x
[05:56] <Ziber> Es0teric: diferent because it's a directory.
[05:56] <Micael> Es0teric, the first d means it is a directory
[05:56] <Ziber> d = direcotry
[05:56] <Ziber> ^
[05:56] <Es0teric> oh i see now ok
[05:56] <Micael> you don't want to convert your file into a directory, i guess....
[05:56] <_1_kimi> hi all
[05:56] <Micael> hahaha
[05:56] <din> Ziber is correct.
[05:56] <_1_kimi> :D
[05:56] <Kamilion> rww: i'm building my own liveiso image; I'm assuming I can just build a kernel image and disable PAE support for the i386 image and everything should be fine? All the 32bit machines have 2GB or less ram
[05:57] <Psil0Cybin> Ziber: I do not remember, correctly but I can try! I am assuming because it is a VM We will not cause any damage by trying right?!
[05:57] <Ben64> Kamilion: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[05:57] <Ziber> Yeah. Let me destroy it and start over.
[05:57] <Psil0Cybin> Rightto :D
[05:57] <Kamilion> Ben64: Oh, thanks! I'll just swipe the netboot kernel then!
[05:58] <Micael> aggggg... anyone familiar with /etc/environment? I am having a hard time with that.
[05:58] <osl> net PXE install: "this kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae" what does this mean and why could i PXE install 10.04 this morning but 12.04 install now sats no pae?
[05:58] <Ziber> Psil0Cybin: I suppose I'll format the disks before I start, too.
[05:58] <Kamilion> osl: [21:57:34] <Ben64> Kamilion: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[06:00] <osl> Kamilion: but wasn't it pae this morning when i PXE install? or is 10.04 PXE different from 12.04 PXE?
[06:00] <Kamilion> osl: that's noting that only the mini.iso has a non-pae kernel, the raw netboot pxe files may not have the same kernel -- try swiping the one from mini.iso
[06:00] <Ziber> Psil0Cybin: Okay, time to install.
[06:00] <Ziber> Psil0Cybin: Mind if I PM?
[06:00] <Psil0Cybin> not at all
[06:01] <Psil0Cybin> pm away
[06:01] <Psil0Cybin> actually
[06:01] <Psil0Cybin> better yet, post here just so sother people can help if I am wrong!
[06:01] <Ziber> Lol okay
[06:01] <Ziber> So, advice for the partition menus?
[06:02] <Psil0Cybin> Ziber: once you are in partition menu, you should see each hard drive seperate.
[06:02] <Ziber> Right.
[06:02] <Ziber> (Not there yet, FYI)
[06:02] <Psil0Cybin> okay, so you go to custom partition (the menu that lets you create custmo partitions)
[06:02] <Ziber> Okay.
[06:02] <Psil0Cybin> one second let me google images so i can refresh my memory
[06:02] <Psil0Cybin> on the steps you are on.
[06:02] <Psil0Cybin> so I can give you exact names
[06:02] <Ziber> Good idea.
[06:03] <Psil0Cybin> go to Manual Partition Disks
[06:03] <Ziber> Currently detecting disks.
[06:04] <osl> Kamilion: complicated problem: i can't boot bad_machine with USB or CD/DVD and that's why i'm trying to PXE. this mini.iso seems to offer an option is INSTALL but not TRY ubuntu. i need to TRY ubuntu on good_machine and then PXE that to bad_machine
[06:04] <Psil0Cybin> Ziber from what I remember
[06:04] <Psil0Cybin> you will create each partition on each disk.
[06:04] <Psil0Cybin> so if you need 3 partitions, 3 partitions on 3 disks
[06:04] <Ziber> Okay. So, partitioning method - manual?
[06:04] <Psil0Cybin> yes sir.
[06:05] <Psil0Cybin> I am looking at an outdated version FYI
[06:05] <Ziber> I need three partitions on each of the disks?
[06:06] <Psil0Cybin> Ziber: or two...how ever you want to configure your system
[06:06] <Psil0Cybin> pretty much what ever you do on one HD, You need to do to all three.
[06:06] <Psil0Cybin> so you need either 2 or 3 partitions on each hard drive.
[06:07] <Ziber> In the first piece of the installer, before I go to the software raid menu, what partition on which disk should I use for mounting /?
[06:07] <Ziber> And these should all be ext4, right?
[06:09] <Psil0Cybin> one sec Ziber
[06:09] <Psil0Cybin> you might need to set it as a Physical volume for raid.
[06:09] <Psil0Cybin> do you see that??
[06:10] <dave305> how to instal tar.gz files in ubuntu
[06:10] <Ziber> From earlier, that was only an option on the first disk. Not the other two.
[06:12] <Ziber> It just isn't an option on the other disks.
[06:13] <Psil0Cybin> Ziber: you know what
[06:13] <Psil0Cybin> try this
[06:13] <Psil0Cybin> two partitions
[06:13] <Psil0Cybin> one ext4.
[06:13] <Psil0Cybin> one swap
[06:13] <Psil0Cybin> on both hard drives.
[06:13] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:14] <Ziber> Both? All three?
[06:14] <Psil0Cybin> yes all three, sorry man
[06:14] <dave305> helo..im new to ubuntu..pls help me to install tar.gz file in ubuntu
[06:14] <dave305> ??
[06:14] <Psil0Cybin> after that is done, go to Configure Software RAID
[06:14] <Ziber> Worth a try.
[06:14] <cyford> wait
[06:15] <Psil0Cybin> dave305: tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[06:15] <Psil0Cybin> read the read me file
[06:15] <Psil0Cybin> or install instructions!
[06:15] <dave305> thnx.....
[06:15] <Golynx> dave305: right click and choose gdebi
[06:16] <Golynx> oh not a .deb :/
[06:16] <Psil0Cybin> dave305: usually it goes ./configure , make , sudo make install.
[06:16] <Psil0Cybin> but you might be missing packages.
[06:16] <Ziber> What are good percentages to use for swap?
[06:16] <Psil0Cybin> Ziber: how much ram do you have?
[06:16] <Psil0Cybin> I am using 8GBs for Swap
[06:16] <cyford> swap = memory size
[06:16] <Psil0Cybin> 8Gbs ram
[06:17] <Ziber> Well, it's a VM, so it's just 512mb RAM.
[06:17] <Psil0Cybin> walla and thats your swap :D
[06:17] <Psil0Cybin> !swap
[06:17] <cyford> so u have 3 disk in the vm or 3 disk on the host?
[06:18] <Psil0Cybin> i think he has 3 in the vm.
[06:18] <Ziber> This is all in the VM.
[06:18] <cyford>   then only 1 swap and boot partition should be needed
[06:18] <Psil0Cybin> yea but he is raiding the system cyford
[06:18] <Psil0Cybin> so does he not make that swap and boot partition on each hd?
[06:18] <Psil0Cybin> then raid it together?
[06:18] <CookiesRgooD> cool stuff
[06:19] <Ziber> Alright, trying the software raid in the installer now
[06:19] <cyford> i think the raid should be before the partitioning
[06:19] <Psil0Cybin> cyford: it is during, unless it is a hardware raid.
[06:19] <Psil0Cybin> software raids get a little messy in Ubuntu
[06:19] <cyford> interesting
[06:19] <Psil0Cybin> i went through this issue when I bought a server for work, with the Bios raid...
[06:19] <Poss-mobile> Thank you to those who helped, i have reinstalled the whole OS and I'm blaming it on nvidia 331, i also wont be updating when prompted in future
[06:19] <Ziber> Another VM I have that was already installed, I added a bunch of disks to it and raided it on the fly :D
[06:20] <Psil0Cybin> the bios raided system was not showing up proerply on Ubuntu...cyford so I had to unraid
[06:20] <Psil0Cybin> and re-software raid
[06:20] <Psil0Cybin> in ubuntu setup
[06:20] <Ziber> Well, it says I can't do it, because there's only 2 raid partitions instead of three. hrmpf.
[06:20] <Psil0Cybin> thats what i thought you would need one boot, one ext4, one swap
[06:20] <Psil0Cybin> right?
[06:20] <Psil0Cybin> maybe I am getting confused my self...sigh
[06:20] <cyford> raid 5 needs 3 disk
[06:20] <Psil0Cybin> he has 3 disks
[06:21] <Psil0Cybin> he wants to partition the system on the 3 disks properly.
[06:21] <Psil0Cybin> and I forget that one part.
[06:21] <Psil0Cybin> I recently did this, so its a little frustrating...
[06:21] <Ziber> Current partition scheme: disk1: ext4 /, swap. disk2: full ext4, disk3: full ext4.
[06:21] <cyford> hmm
[06:21] <cyford>   i use openfiler
[06:21] <cyford>   then run vm's on top of that
[06:22] <Ziber> I saw an article about setting up software raid after installation...
[06:22] <Psil0Cybin> well i did not use a VM also so
[06:22] <Psil0Cybin> this might all be a tad different... i do not know
[06:22] <cyford> in open filer the dsk needed to be partitioned for a raid
[06:23] <cyford>   then the raid disk formated to ext4
[06:23] <cyford> kind of like LVM
[06:23] <Ziber> On the VM earlier, I setup an on-the-fly RAID and then threw LVM on top of that. :D
[06:25] <Ziber> Only figured out software RAID today too, I was impressed with myself.
[06:27] <Poss-mobile> Actually, reinstalling hasn't actually worked. It worked until i restarted, now its blackscreening. Which is lovely
[06:29] <apb1963> Who wants to play "Highest load I've ever seen in my life" ?
[06:29] <Poss-mobile> Oh great, now recovery mode is broken.. time to reinstall again i guess.
[06:30] <apb1963> I'll start....   181
[06:30] <ob1> can anyone recommend a good public shell account to try on terminal?
[06:31] <Ziber> So, when I size disks by percentage, it's only a percentage of the free space. It's throwing my math off.
[06:33] <cyford> raid 5 is 2/3's of total space
[06:33] <cyford> plus boot partition can not be in raid5
[06:34] <cyford> so it may make that in a raid 2 mirror
[06:34] <cyford> opps raid 1
[06:35] <cyford> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[06:37] <Ziber> This is interesting. I took one disk, formatted into fourths (all ext4) and now I can raid5 it. That... defeats the purpose, if I can't use the other two disks.
[06:52] <Poss-mobile> What do i do if an install gets stuck on "preparing to install"?
[06:54] <Ziber> And success!!!
[07:02] <lazyPower> I'm having this strange issue where fetching package index hangs on an IPv6 address for us.archive.ubuntu.com. If I leave it be for 3 or 4 minutes it seems to timeout and progress as I would expect, but I'm not finding much from my google query 'ipv6 apt-get update hang'
[07:03] <steven__> where to download ubuntu13.10 desktop iso for i386 64bit ?
[07:03] <lazyPower> steven__: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[07:04] <Ziber> BANG. I figured this out.
[07:04] <benishor> lazyPower: that takes me to ...amd64 download
[07:04] <lazyPower> benishor: the 64 bit iso works on all 64 bit platforms
[07:04] <benishor> lazyPower: oh, ok, thank you
[07:06] <steven__> amd64bit is just confused
[07:06] <freedx> UML
[07:07] <lazyPower> So in addendum to my apt woes, this is what its hanging on: 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::14)]
[07:07] <varunendra> steven__, it is highly recommended to download via torrents, to ensure data integrity as well as faster download : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[07:09] <steven__> thanks
[07:13] <aleksander> Hello, I'd like to install Ubuntu on a custom encrypted partition so that it will automatically detect encryption and make proper changes in mkinitrd - the previous time I've done it manually and wasn't able to update my kernel afterwards. Is there a semi-automated way to do it? Ubiquity doesn't 'see' encryption it hasn't created, and can't make as sophisticated setup as I want
[07:13] <witheld> aleksander: can't you just use the standard LUKS stuff
[07:14] <aleksander> witheld, I would like to have one more partition INSIDE my LUKS volume - is there a way to force Ubiquity to let me review the partition table before installing?
[07:14] <aleksander> I mean, review after choosing 'automagical' LUKS encryption
[07:18] <KiwiNZ> do i need to disable EUFI to run ubuntu?
[07:18] <LibDem> no, why would you?
[07:24] <LibDem> Has anyone been having issues with 13.10, the settings window freezes (becomes unresponsive) when I click on any item. I literally cannot change any settings on my computer.
[07:26] <SonikkuAmerica> LibDem: I might guess a graphics issue...
[07:28] <LibDem> SonikkuAmerica: Hmm, never considered it, but I do run the optirun drivers, so I guess. I could try to reinstall the driver.
[07:29] <SonikkuAmerica> LibDem: Have you tried bumblebee?
[07:30] <LibDem> SonikkuAmerica: yeah, I have that installed, that is what I meant by optirun
[07:30] <SonikkuAmerica> LibDem: derp, that is bumblebee :( Anyway, are you using it on your window manager? (You shouldn't be.)
[07:31] <LibDem> SonikkuAmerica: haha, yeah no I don't run the window using my external gfx card. The issue just happened after an update or so ago.
[07:31] <SonikkuAmerica> LibDem: An update of...?
[07:32] <soman> HI all. When will 12.04.4 lts be available in downloads at ubuntu website?
[07:32] <LibDem> SonikkuAmerica: I don't remember what was updated to break it unfortuntely, I just ran the SoftwareUpdates program and it installed various updates.
[07:33] <apb1963> Well this is disappointing... unable to boot clonezilla in virtualbox
[07:33] <SonikkuAmerica> soman: When it's out. Point releases kind of just roll. Besides, the only thing going in is the 14.04 (Trusty) stack, Linux 3.2 kernel updates and a change to /etc/issue
[07:34] <SonikkuAmerica> LibDem: Hm. I can't say for sure. I have to go though, it's nearly 3 in the morning EST
[07:34] <LibDem> SonikkuAmerica: Np, thanks for the help.
[07:35] <LibDem> soman: I believe it comes out 6 of Feburary? http://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/ubuntu-12.04.4-officially-arrives-on-february-6-140108042004.html
[07:35] <soman> LibDem: oh, ok, thanks
[07:40] <glitsj16> LibDem: have you tried starting the settings GUI from terminal yet to see if it throws any errors?
[07:40] <LibDem> glitsj16: no I haven't sorry, let me try that real quick.
[07:41] <Ziber> Well that's interesting. Ubuntu installer didn't know how to install grub.
[07:42] <hitsujiTMO> Ziber: what exactly happened?
[07:45] <LibDem> glitsj16: here is the output when I click on the item 'Network' http://paste.ubuntu.com/6859967/
[07:45] <Ziber> hitsujiTMO: It tried grub-install'ing to the three disks, not the newly created RAID one.
[07:47] <hitsujiTMO> Ziber: that's a normal practice. you can always chroot in and install grub to where you like
[07:48] <Ziber> On the Xen console, I'm at a busybox shell. But it doesn't seem to be able to do a whole lot.
[07:49] <glitsj16> LibDem: the warning about the non loadable module for the network settings i've never seen that actually .. tried a reinstall yet of the gnome-control-center package?
[07:49] <hitsujiTMO> Ziber: you may have better luck if you boot the ubuntu disk again and chroot in from there
[07:49] <makara> hi. i'm trying to setup ad-hoc network between 2 laptops with 13.10
[07:49] <apb1963> trying to boot clonezilla in a virtual box... it tells me pae is not present on the cpu, and that I should use a kernel appropriate for my cpu.
[07:49] <Ziber> How am I supposed to boot it?
[07:50] <makara> i'm following: https://tumutanzi.com/archives/8195
[07:50] <glitsj16> LibDem: that should be on your system under /usr/lib/control-center-1/panels/libnetwork.so
[07:50] <makara> when I use WPA2, the option is greyed out on my other laptop
[07:51] <makara> when I use WEP it's available, but my password isn't accepted
[07:51] <hitsujiTMO> Ziber: same way you booted to install it
[07:51] <hitsujiTMO> Ziber: what raid level did you use for /boot ?
[07:54] <tony_> hello how i install flash plugin in firefox to see a movie?
[07:54] <Ziber> Well, I just raided / and swap. So, 5.
[07:54] <makara> apb1963, did you enable PAE for the VM. It's under Settings > System > Processor
[07:55] <makara> tony_, its a mission. It there an option on the site to view HTML5?
[07:55] <hitsujiTMO> Ziber: you can only boot to raid 1, so /boot must exist separately if the rest of the system is going to be a raid other than 1
[07:56] <Ziber> Good to know.
[07:56] <Ziber> Would've been better to know before :P
[07:56] <tony_> no i try it and say flash version 9 or greater is required
[07:56] <cfhowlett> !flash|tony_,
[07:57] <apb1963> makara: I did not.  I'll try that thank you.  Btw.... is 12MB sufficient for video memory?
[07:57] <tony_> thank you ubottu
[07:57] <makara> apb1963, for cli yes. For a GUI just push it up to 128mb
[07:58] <apb1963> makara: ty
[07:58] <apb1963> makara: 2D and/or 3D acceleration??
[07:59] <apb1963> it's just clonezilla... I shouldn't care right?
[07:59] <makara> probably not
[08:00] <apb1963> k
[08:00] <apb1963> ty
[08:00] <ROPA> my attempts to record video during games results in a pure black screen with normal sound. Have modern hardware and lots of computing power. See http://paste.ubuntu.com/6860015/ for info.
[08:00] <LibDem> glitsj16: wow fantastic, it works again! thanks for the help.
[08:01] <tony_> wow so simple and fast ... thank uboto its just my first day in linux after 35 years with windows
[08:01] <apb1963> makara: seems to be working... ty!
[08:01] <mbnoimi> Can I install Ubuntu over Android?
[08:01] <glitsj16> LibDem: can't imagine why it suddenly stopped working, but weel, it's back .. welcome :)
[08:01] <hitsujiTMO> !toch | mbnoimi
[08:02] <hitsujiTMO> !touch | mbnoimi
[08:02] <mbnoimi> hitsujiTMO: thx
[08:02] <makara> apb1963, no sweat. Poke around. VBox is great software
[08:03] <apb1963> makara: yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
[08:03] <tony_> goodmorning to all thank you for the hekp have a nice day
[08:03] <Ziber> If I can't raid /boot... one of my disks will have to sacrifice some space for it, and then the three RAIDs for the rest of my system won't be the same sizes.
[08:05] <hitsujiTMO> Ziber: you can raid it across all disks as long as its raid 1. drop the root md by 200mb+
[08:06] <glitsj16> ROPA: what screenrecording app did you use? some don't perform well when recording OpenGL ..
[08:08] <Ziber> Hrm.
[08:11] <ROPA> glitsj16 have tried tham all...or perhaps I should say 'many'........simplescreenrecorder, recordmydesktop, kazam, among others.
[08:11] <apb1963> makara: ok so vbox doesn't see my external usb drive... any ideas?
[08:11] <Ziber> How much do I need to have for /boot?
[08:14] <hitsujiTMO> Ziber: 200mb+
[08:14] <ROPA> glitsj16 The game Im trying to record is criticalmass, which can't be minimized into it's own window...so I have toi start recording from the desktop, then start the game, then stop the game in order to get to the desktop so I can stop the recording. I suspect I am not advising the software which window to record.......
[08:14] <glitsj16> ROPA: only thing i know actually about screenrecording games is that if you want to record 32-bit OpenGL applications on a 64-bit system it's troublesome .. simplescreenrecorder has simplescreenrecorder-lib:i386 eg, that did it for me
[08:15] <Ziber> Fuck, okay.
[08:15] <makara> apb1963, what are you trying to do?
[08:16] <ROPA> glitsj16 ok, that's interesting. I have ots of room for another version of the OS on mt main drive, I will try blowing in a 32 bit os and try recording it there......
[08:16] <ROPA> ots = lots
[08:17] <ROPA> mt = my...sorry typos.
[08:17] <apb1963> makara: Get practice using clonezilla so I don't destroy my hard drive when I try to clone it for real.... I have new usb drive which is my (eventual?) target drive.
[08:17] <wot3939> On a Ubuntu server I get this error: ./unreal: line 50: kill: (10318) - No such process
[08:17] <wot3939> Anyone know whats going on
[08:18] <wot3939> what does ./unreal: line 50: kill: (10318) - No such process
[08:18] <wot3939> mean
[08:18] <makara> wot3939, after what cmd?
[08:18] <hitsujiTMO> wot3939: you'll have to read the script
[08:18] <wot3939> makara, ./unreal restart
[08:18] <wot3939> I checked line 50 in the script
[08:19] <ROPA> glitsj16 did you ever try to record this particular game, which is 'criticalmass', available in the software center?
[08:19] <wot3939> I tried to comment the code out
[08:19] <wot3939> but it still gives me that error
[08:19] <makara> wot3939, work around: close unreal and use ./unreal start
[08:20] <makara> apb1963, did you check usb options?
[08:21] <glitsj16> ROPA: no need to install another 32bit OS, just if you use simplescreenrecorder it does better if you also install the 32bit lib .. and no, criticalmass i never tried, it's actually my gf who is the gamer in the house
[08:21] <apb1963> makara: Yes.  Usb controllor is enabled
[08:21] <makara> apb1963, and can you see files on the drive from nautilus? it must be formatted correctly
[08:21] <apb1963> apb1963: it's unformatted...
[08:21] <ROPA> glitsj16 my laptop (other system) is also a 64 bit system, it has the same problem. Maybe the 32 bit os will allow recording properly.
[08:21] <apb1963> talking to myself again.  lol
[08:21] <wot3939> makara, do you have any idea why it would say there is no unreal process if unrealircd is working properly?
[08:21] <wot3939> also when I go to restart it, it says its restarting but it doesnt restart
[08:21] <apb1963> makara: it's unformatted... new disk... will be target for a cloned image
[08:21] <glitsj16> ROPA: well if you have the space and do a lot of recording, why not
[08:22] <makara> wot3939, badly written script
[08:23] <ROPA> glitsj16 well, I have lots of room and don't do a lot of recording....but Im getting decent scores lately and would like to record each time I play...so I can analyze the results when I blow up......should help me understand my mistakes and improve game.
[08:23] <gry> Interesting :-)
[08:24] <Ziber> Finally got it.
[08:24] <Ziber> Surprised I can do the math required for that at 3:24am
[08:25] <ROPA> glitsj16 If I install the 32 bit library, simplescreenrecorder will use it if it sees a 32 bit game program???? Or do I have to start it specifying I want to use the 32 bit liubrary?
[08:25] <Merl> Hi, I just downloaded 13.10, and created a USB stick using pendrive. But when I try to boot from the USB stick, it still tried to boot into the GRUB. I have tried selecting USB HDD and USB FDD, what should I try?
[08:25] <glitsj16> ROPA: sure, it's a rather complex topic, my knowledge on the OpenGL spec is as good as non-existing to provide any real working advise on game recording, there's so much variety out there
[08:26] <apb1963> makara: you're saying i have to format the disk for vbox to see the device??
[08:26] <makara> apb1963, no. https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=45349
[08:26] <ROPA> glitsj16 ok, thanks a bunch, appreciate the suggestion.
[08:27] <glitsj16> ROPA: i think so yes, and i added the simplescreenrecorder PPA to get the latest version as well
[08:27] <glitsj16> ROPA: you're welcome, and goodluck
[08:27] <ROPA> glitsj16 I added the ppa too.
[08:27] <makara> apb1963, looks like you need to unmount the drive from the host before VM can attach to it
[08:28] <apb1963> makara: it's not formatted... therefore, not mounted
[08:28] <glitsj16> ROPA: it will yell about wrong ELF lib if you start it via terminal, so shouldn't take long to confirm
[08:32] <makara> apb1963, what you're doing is tricky: giving a VBox VM low-level access to a USB harddisk. I have to disconnect. Good luck
[08:33] <wot3939> makara, how do I kill the unreal process
[08:33] <wot3939> if it wont die when i use ./unreal stop
[08:33] <wot3939> or when i use pkill unreal or kill unreal
[08:34] <bekks> wot3939: kill -9
[08:34] <wot3939> bekks, what do i use as a parameter?
[08:35] <bekks> wot3939: the pid to be killed.
[08:35] <wot3939> how do I find out the PID associated with that process?
[08:35] <bekks> wot3939: ps -ef
[08:38] <ROPA> glitsj16 I just downloaded the lib file and ran it-same problem. I didn't start it from the terminal though.
[08:40] <fieldfirst_> from nginx error log it said "worker process 29124 exited with fatal code 2 and cannot be respawned" what does this mean ?
[08:41] <glitsj16> ROPA: did you play around with the settings for video input? iirc there were a few pointers the dev put in, and that it is still experimental ..
[08:44] <ROPA> glitsj16 I didn't play around, I have some more reading up to do I think.
[08:44] <glitsj16> ROPA: http://www.maartenbaert.be/simplescreenrecorder/recording-steam-games/ .. might be a good read, although the url suggests steam games, it goes a bit wider into the topic
[08:45] <ROPA> glitsj16 I did just try running it from terminal, still ng......there were no obvious errors in the terminal box.
[08:45] <ROPA> glitsj16 got, it thanks......back to the books......
[08:46] <glitsj16> ROPA: no i didn't but it was a 32bit game
[08:47] <glitsj16> :) yup, the books .. and the dev seems to actually respond to questions
[08:49] <ROPA> When I tried simplescreenrecorder last week, I did specify the game I wanted to play...it was on the menu.....but it didn't work.....I had actually seen that url before but only briefly. I'll pay more attention to it this time around::>
[08:51] <glitsj16> ROPA: at least you should be able to find a setting to let the screenrec app launch the game, better save those game data before experimenting (but i take it you'd already be doing so)..
[08:51] <ROPA> got the url bookmarked now, lots to think about. Again, may tnx.
[08:52] <glitsj16> no trouble
[08:53] <ROPA> glitsj16 I had a close call last month, hit the wrong key using gparted and wiped out everything!!!!! It was a wake up call!!! Now, I back up once a month to usb stick!!!
[08:54] <glitsj16> ROPA: i'm installing criticalmass, if i get anything usefull, i'll ping
[09:01] <vanea> Hello. Did somebody tried to create Libre Office charts from bash and export those charts to PDF using the same Bash?
[09:04] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:04] <cristian_c> How can I use dbus-monitor to check if devices are announced?
[09:04] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:10] <glitsj16> ROPA: guess what .. it didn't work when i opted for OpenGL as video input, but it did perfectly fine with the default settings ..
[09:20] <helmut_> hi
[09:22] <ROPA> glitsj16 ok, sure wish the default settings worked for me!!!!
[09:23] <electricprism> whats the easiest way to add a program to ubuntu startup suchas xboxdrv
[09:23] <ROPA> glitsj16 I'm still reading............I'll figure it out soon, I hope.
[09:25] <ROPA> glitsj16 if you wanna play criticalmass, change the scoring to 'insane' and configure it so the visual effects don't interfere with the hunt....by shutting off the 'show nebulas'.....
[09:26] <glitsj16> ROPA: well, i choose mkv as container (mp4 also gave me black video) and mp3 audio, now i'm trying some different settings, to try and get fullscreen recording .. btw critter can be run windowed if you use the +fullscreen 0 param
[09:26] <glitsj16> ROPA: thanks for the tips, i'll check it out
[09:27] <ROPA> glitsj16 it gets fast and wild once you leave behind the training mode settings::>
[09:27] <glitsj16> ROPA: wild and fast .. i better hide this from gf :p
[09:28] <ROPA> glitsj16 I was using mp4....mainly because I didn't know what the other choices meant, so didn't try em.
[09:28] <ROPA> glitsj16 holler at me when you or her get 8 million points, which is my personal best so far.
[09:34] <glitsj16> ROPA: don't wait for that holler lol, i only got to 100 .. also i have nvidia, which might or might not be relevant here .. have you tried installing the libavcodec-extra-.. yet?
[09:36] <ROPA> glitsj16 not sure what a libavcodec-extra- is......is that one of the restricted extras?
[09:36] <ROPA> I just tried mkv-still no video.
[09:36] <glitsj16> ROPA: i don't think so no, but i'll check, i might have gotten it thru a PPA
[09:37] <ROPA> glitsj16 also, if you're gonna play it, be sure to enable the rapid fire too.....
[09:39] <glitsj16> ROPA: yeah i didn't even see the options yet in critter .. and you should be able to apt-get install the libavcodec-extra-53 from regular repos
[09:40] <ROPA> Yes, just found it....I already have it installed.
[09:40] <glitsj16> ROPA: so those don't come with ubuntu-restricted-extras, but it's the same licensing deal that stops them from being default apparently
[09:40] <glitsj16> ow ok
[09:42] <appletime2000> Is Ubuntu a business, if so how does it make money?
[09:43] <ROPA> glitsj16 ok, I have the whole session saved as a text file, so will be doing more research tomorrow....right now I gotta get my beauty sleep. It's late here and I get really cranky whenI don't get enuff rest::>
[09:43] <cfhowlett> appletime2000, are you a bot
[09:43] <appletime2000> No
[09:43] <Irshat> jjjj
[09:43] <glitsj16> ROPA: when started from terminal critter spits out all kinds of info, among which your active OpenGL renderer .. so you can at least check if it finds your GPU
[09:43] <cfhowlett> !ot|appletime2000,
[09:43] <glitsj16> ROPA: sure, have a nice stretch and see you around
[09:44] <Irshat> who are you
[09:45] <ROPA> ubuntu is free software and is 100 opercent open source, but the company doing paid tech support for ubuntu is a for profit company......
[09:46]  * cfhowlett has seen that exact question and wording several times --- 
[09:46] <ROPA> glitsj16 tnx again all your help/
[10:12] <marandi> hi guys , i have a problem with ubuntu 12.04 , my hdmi port dosent work properly , i cant get output from hdmi port , how can i fix it ?
[10:13] <cfhowlett> !hdmi
[10:15] <knight`> how can i make software centre to display selected text in different colour (like other gui programs)?
[10:30] <Creaturish_noob> refresh
[10:30] <Creaturish_noob> oops sory
[10:33] <Rastacouerd> k
[10:40] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[10:43] <Grizzlee> hi all!
[10:43] <hewhomust> hi
[10:43] <Grizzlee> i want config pidgin for my skype. How do it plz
[10:44] <hewhomust> do you have skype?
[10:57] <hj2007> hello everyone, can anyone please help me with setting up "ulimit" to increase file limit?
[10:58] <hj2007> currently ulimit -n gives me 10000, I want to increase it to >25000, tried every possibly way as given on forums, but nothing helped.
[11:03] <tomek_> ?
[11:03] <xvzf> hi there I have an oldish macbook pro -- I cannot install a new macos on it, so old. Can I install vanilla Ubuntu 12.04 desktop cd on it?
[11:04] <cfhowlett> xvzf,
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !mac
[11:04] <mgolisch> try it?
[11:04] <xvzf> cfhowlett, thanks
[11:04] <cfhowlett> xvzf, long answer short "it depends"   read the links and try your luck
[11:05] <tomek_> czy urzywa ktos aircrack-ng ?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> !aircrack
[11:05] <cfhowlett> tomek_, aircrack is not support here
[11:05] <tomek_> ok
[11:11] <xvzf> cfhowlett, the links do not work on that page. Previously, and still, I have a 13.04 on the machine but after a too brave upgrade to 13.10 it stopped working correctly
[11:12] <cfhowlett> xvzf, never done an actual mac (hackintosh only), but I suspect you'll find better support on the LTS version rather than the interim releases.  12.04 is the current LTS
[11:13] <hewhomust> cfhowlett: wont more current distros be easier to install because of better driver support
[11:13] <cfhowlett> hewhomust, point taken. at any rate, I'm not the best advisor on this issue so - punt!
[11:15] <hewhomust> xvzf: i would just check check that the partition table type is mbr then install ubuntu 13.10 default setting
[11:15] <hewhomust> 14.04 coming out in two months so not really any point in running 12.04
[11:16] <cfhowlett> hewhomust, disagree.  if you can get 12.04 up and running, direct upgrade to 14.04 is the next step ...
[11:17] <yuns> Is there any alien
[11:17] <hewhomust> cfhowlett: i dont really use upgrades but if it works well then i concur
[11:17] <xvzf> but do upgrades work, cfhowlett ? I had bad luck with 13.04->13.10
[11:17] <hewhomust> yeah thats my worry too
[11:17] <cfhowlett> xvzf, you don't see my fine print ... YMMV ... as I ONLY upgrade LTS's, I've had no issues but ... *fine print*
[11:19] <laura79> ciao
[11:19] <laura79> !list
[11:19] <yuns> In fact,I'm an alien,who can help me return to Mars
[11:19] <hewhomust> lol
[11:27] <sennn> freenode webchat blocked in china! damn!
[11:27] <PunkOdissey> it
[11:28] <onizu> hi
[11:28] <hewhomust> hi
[11:29] <cfhowlett> sennn, no it is not.
[11:30] <cfhowlett> sennn, as evidenced by the fact that I am in Beijing
[11:30] <onizu> $ /opt/dassault-systemes/DraftSight/Linux/DraftSight
[11:30] <onizu> /opt/dassault-systemes/DraftSight/Linux/DraftSight: error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:30] <onizu> how to fix that?
[11:31] <bekks> !find libGLU.so.1
[11:31] <bekks> onizu: Install that package :)
[11:32] <sennn> cfhowlett and then why i can't use it in china?
[11:32] <onizu> $ /opt/dassault-systemes/DraftSight/Linux/DraftSight
[11:32] <onizu> /opt/dassault-systemes/DraftSight/Linux/DraftSight: error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:32] <onizu> oops
[11:32] <voldyman> anyone ever used ubuntu-mini-remix?
[11:32] <voldyman> i am having trouble installing from command line
[11:33] <cfhowlett> sennn, I don't know - I'm accessing it through xchat ...
[11:33] <onizu> $ find libGLU.so.1
[11:33] <onizu> find: `libGLU.so.1': No such file or directory
[11:33] <cfhowlett> !mini|voldyman,
[11:33] <voldyman> cfhowlett: don't have that much bandwidth, i have a 13.10 mini image on a usb disk can only use that
[11:33] <onizu> $ find libGLU.so.1
[11:33] <onizu> find: `libGLU.so.1': No such file or directory
[11:34] <onizu> damn, i don't know why it doesn't copy :(
[11:34] <onizu> $ find libglu1-mesa
[11:34] <onizu> find: `libglu1-mesa': No such file or directory
[11:34] <mint> would u consider kernel 3.5.0.17 , new or old, is it sufficient for newer hardwares?
[11:34] <cfhowlett> !kernel
[11:35] <mint> is it old or new?
[11:35] <sennn> cfhowlett you can try web edition,  i can make sure you can't login !
[11:36] <onizu> someone help me
[11:37] <hewhomust> sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa
[11:37] <bekks> onizu: Install the package that contains libglu1-mesa
[11:37] <hewhomust> in terminal
[11:37] <Maddeth> Morning/afternoon/evening all, I am looking for a comparison of packages between 10.04 LTS and 12.04 LTS to what will be 14.04 LTS, any idea's?
[11:37] <cfhowlett> sennn, you might be right.  web based doesn't seem to want to hook up.  wonder how I'm getting through with the xchat ...
[11:37] <bekks> Gna s/that contains//
[11:37] <cfhowlett> !trusty|Maddeth,
[11:37] <onizu> mm.. another process using /var/lib/dpkg :/
[11:37] <onizu> moment
[11:37] <hewhomust> close software centre
[11:37] <hewhomust> or synaptic
[11:38] <onizu> i'm installing another package
[11:38] <bekks> onizu: Then wait until it is finished.
[11:38] <hewhomust> well then wait until you finish
[11:38] <sennn> cfhowlett see....
[11:38] <onizu> if i interrupt it, can i resume it later from the same point?
[11:38] <bekks> onizu: No.
[11:38] <bekks> onizu: Wait until it is finished.
[11:38] <cfhowlett> sennn, sorry for doubting ... so xchat is not an option for you?
[11:38] <onizu> ok, can the partial install (actually download) be cleaned after interrupting it?
[11:39] <onizu> it's going to take an hour
[11:39] <bekks> onizu: Dont interrupt it.
[11:39] <bekks> onizu: Then wait an hour.
[11:39] <onizu> ok
[11:39] <onizu> but just for knowledge, if i do have to for some reason interrupt an install, what's the way to go about it?
[11:39] <onizu> at times my internet breaks
[11:40] <hewhomust> just start it it will download from the point its up to
[11:40] <bekks> onizu: The internet breakage will just break the download, not the installation process.
[11:40] <hewhomust> do it all the time
[11:40] <sennn> cfhowlett i prefer webbased more than native
[11:40] <onizu> hm, i see
[11:40] <onizu> so i can't at all stop the current installation and go for another one
[11:41] <bekks> onizu: You can but it may break things. So do not do it.
[11:41] <hewhomust> no it will start from the beginning
[11:41] <onizu> without messing up the former installation
[11:41] <onizu> yea
[11:41] <bekks> onizu: I mamy mess up the former installation.
[11:41] <bekks> oniz*may
[11:41] <onizu> ok
[11:41] <Maddeth> cfhowlett: thanks, but an announcement on 14.04 wasn't what I was after, for future plans of server upgrades it would be very beneficial to have a list of package versions that will be the default for 14.04
[11:41] <hewhomust> launchpad
[11:41] <cfhowlett> Maddeth, and the place to have that discussion is on the #1 dedicated channel
[11:41] <hewhomust> look up package
[11:42] <Maddeth> Thanks cfhowlett :)
[11:42] <Maddeth> hewhomust: will take a look there too
[11:42] <cfhowlett> Maddeth, also perhaps #ubuntu-server
[11:43] <Grizzlee>  yep hewhomust i have skype account
[11:44] <hewhomust> i mean the skype client because pidgin needs it to run
[11:44] <sennn> cased by performance，i use lubuntu 14.04 by now.
[11:45] <sennn> by the way ,wp8 is really good
[11:57] <ra61bitdevil> Hello
[11:57] <cfhowlett> ra61bitdevil, greetings
[11:58] <ra61bitdevil> My 1st time using Xchat
[11:58] <ra61bitdevil> lol
[11:58] <cfhowlett> ra61bitdevil, do you have an ubuntu support question
[11:58] <ra61bitdevil> not really now
[11:59] <cyford> :)
[12:02] <PsychoX75> i'm trying to figure out. What is the downside of Ubuntu LTS?  I mean.... what's the catch?
[12:03] <gordonjcp> PsychoX75: the packages are older
[12:03] <PsychoX75> older u say.....
[12:03] <gordonjcp> PsychoX75: at this point, LTS is about nine months old, and the packages in it are typically about a year old
[12:03] <cfhowlett> PsychoX75, not so cutting/bleeding edge ...
[12:03] <PsychoX75> ohwww
[12:03] <gordonjcp> PsychoX75: if you want the latest and greatest, LTS won't give you it
[12:03] <gordonjcp> *however*
[12:03] <ikonia_> bigger version numbers is not always "greatest"
[12:04] <gordonjcp> they are updated to the latest version of that age of package, if you see what I mean
[12:04] <Garry0io> all hi
[12:04] <gordonjcp> like
[12:04] <Maddeth> LTS's offer stability
[12:04] <ikonia_> the concept is basically that "LTS" long term support, if you want to use the same distro for a long time,
[12:04]  * cfhowlett runs LTS only and has substantially reduced his OS induced heartaches
[12:04] <gordonjcp> you won't get a major version bump, you might not a minor bump, but you'll get bugfixes
[12:04] <gordonjcp> PsychoX75: it's similar to Debian Stable
[12:04] <gordonjcp> PsychoX75: "Stable" doesn't mean "won't crash", it means "won't change"
[12:05] <gordonjcp> at no point over an LTS release's lifespan will any package change sufficiently to cause you to have to rework your configs
[12:06] <PsychoX75> oh i get it
[12:06] <PsychoX75> i guess i'll wait then for the next LTS to come out somewhere in april
[12:06] <cfhowlett> PsychoX75, or as I like to call it "semi annual xmas!"
[12:06] <PsychoX75> and then install my machine..... Server/Downloader/Mediaplayer/Sharer... thingy.
[12:06] <PsychoX75> I have no clue how to call it.  :P
[12:07] <Maddeth> Media Centre?
[12:07] <cfhowlett> PsychoX75, if you're running a server, you're probably better served by LTS's inherent stability
[12:07] <PsychoX75> kinda
[12:07] <PsychoX75> I installed Ubuntu32 desktop
[12:07] <ikonia> ubuntu32 desktop ?
[12:07] <PsychoX75> cuz it had the simple gui or so
[12:07] <PsychoX75> i have no idea anymore. Almost 3 years ago.
[12:08] <gordonjcp> PsychoX75: you don't really need a GUI on a server
[12:08] <ikonia> there is nothing wrong with a gui on a server
[12:08] <PsychoX75> thats the thing
[12:08] <ikonia> especially a home on e
[12:08] <ikonia> one
[12:08] <Maddeth> ikonia: wasted resources
[12:08] <PsychoX75> the computer is connected to my TV to play movies
[12:08] <ikonia> Maddeth: not at all
[12:08] <PsychoX75> and XBMC
[12:08] <gordonjcp> PsychoX75: oh, okay
[12:08] <PsychoX75> but it downloads and shares files too
[12:08] <ikonia> most media components will want X11 components installed and running anyway
[12:08] <PsychoX75> also does some NAS work with its Raid construction
[12:08] <gordonjcp> PsychoX75: xbmcbuntu ;-)
[12:08] <gordonjcp> PsychoX75: whack that on, then shell in and install your server packages
[12:09] <PsychoX75> gordon: the catch is... i cant Teamviewer in it with XBMC on.
[12:09] <gordonjcp> I don't know what Teamviewer is
[12:09] <PsychoX75> So i only start XBMC when i'm sitting in front of it.
[12:09] <ikonia> teamviewer should not be used
[12:09] <ikonia> it is a security disaster
[12:09] <Maddeth> ikonia: as a Media Centre, yes, GUI is pretty much a necessity, on a web or database server, no need for a GUI at all
[12:09] <PsychoX75> Teamviewer is some kinda PcAnywhere remote desktop thingy.... for the lazies
[12:09] <gordonjcp> PsychoX75: oh, don't use that
[12:09] <misterhp> محمد
[12:09] <ikonia> Maddeth: read what he's doing then
[12:09] <gordonjcp> PsychoX75: just use ssh
[12:09] <ikonia> Maddeth: and to be honest, who are you to say what people need/want
[12:09] <gordonjcp> if you *have* to use a GUI over the network, ssh can tunnel X
[12:09] <PsychoX75> i use SSH too...
[12:09] <ikonia> Maddeth: some people will need a gui to run the machine, especially if it's a home machine
[12:10] <misterhp> hello
[12:10] <PsychoX75> well  SSH-telnet
[12:10] <ikonia> telnet should not be used at all
[12:10] <ikonia> it's dead
[12:10] <PsychoX75> ssh-command line i mean
[12:10] <misterhp> how download whatsapp to ubuntu
[12:10] <Maddeth> ikonia: As you pointed out, it all depends on the need
[12:11] <ikonia> Maddeth: right, so randomly telling people "you don't need a gui" is bad
[12:11] <Maddeth> ikonia: but, my point still stands with regards to db/web servers, GUI is wasted resources
[12:11] <ikonia> Maddeth: you're point is just wrong
[12:11] <ikonia> Maddeth: "you" don't need a gui, that doesn't mean other people don't
[12:12] <bekks> If a db server is wasting resources with "a GUI", and if thats noticable on the db - throw away that ancient computer. Every calculator will be faster for the db :)
[12:12] <Maddeth> ikonia: I didn't say anything about need, I am talking from a performance perspective :)
[12:12] <ikonia> Maddeth: then again, you could not be more wrong
[12:13] <PsychoX75> yikes...
[12:13] <Maddeth> bekks: depends on how many records you are trying to process, how fast you want a website to return those results
[12:13] <PsychoX75> Guys, dont get into a debate.
[12:13] <ikonia> Maddeth: no it doesn't
[12:13] <PsychoX75> Anyone should be able to tell their point of view.
[12:14] <cfhowlett> perhaps better discussed in the off-topic channel?
[12:14] <PsychoX75> Lets face it.  An average Ubuntu user who is smart enough to come in this channel, wont just go click-and-format his HDD without using 1% of brainpower.
[12:14] <ikonia> you'd be surprised
[12:14] <ikonia> more so as this channel is auto join
[12:14] <Maddeth> ikonia: a GUI requires more resources, in the case of a VM, it requires you to take some resources and use them for video ram
[12:14] <Maddeth> ikonia: this is a waste of resource
[12:15] <ikonia> Maddeth: you're just wrong, and you're trying to find more obscure examples to try to justify being wrong...
[12:15] <ikonia> it's gone from need, to performance, to vm's
[12:15] <ikonia> because you are wrong
[12:15] <Maddeth> ikonia: I am just using my personal examples of why gui's are not required on a server
[12:15] <bekks> Maddeth: And you are wrong.
[12:16] <bekks> However </0.02c>
[12:16] <ikonia> Maddeth: and higlighting your wrong,
[12:16] <gartral> ikonia: you also have to take into consideration what the arcitecture of the server is, if it has a decent amount of dedicated video ram, you'll be ok, if it doesn't, then Maddeth is right
[12:16] <Maddeth> I fail to see how I am wrong, why would you waste RAM in a production environment for a GUI that will hardly ever be used?
[12:16] <ikonia> gartral: no I don't
[12:17] <bekks> gartral: Which is totally wrong.
[12:17] <ikonia> Maddeth: ahhh so now it's production environment
[12:17] <ikonia> Maddeth: so it's gone from "media server" to "need a gui" to "perforance" to "vm" to "production" in a poor attempt to find a way to be "right"
[12:17] <Maddeth> ikonia: like I said, I am talking from my personal experience
[12:17] <gartral> Maddeth: fwiw, I'm in your camp here..
[12:17] <PsychoX75> oh my goodness... GUYS!!!!
[12:17] <ikonia> Maddeth: yeah, which has nothing to do with the person asking for helps question
[12:17]  * cfhowlett grabs a fresh bag of popcorn and observes ...
[12:17] <PsychoX75> Relax.... sit back.. take a deep breathe....  drink some coca cola or so
[12:17] <PsychoX75> :)
[12:17] <Maddeth> ikonia: I made a general statement of my personal preferences
[12:18] <ikonia> Maddeth: "I need install a gui on my media server" Maddeth "you don't need a gui" ikonia "you are wrong" Maddeth " a wild set of situations nothing to do with the question to be right "
[12:18] <ikonia> Maddeth: ok - lets play then
[12:18] <Maddeth> I already said before : ikonia: as a Media Centre, yes, GUI is pretty much a necessity, on a web or database server, no need for a GUI at all
[12:18] <ikonia> Maddeth: the user was talking about a media server
[12:19] <ikonia> Maddeth: and some people do NEED a gui
[12:19] <ikonia> Maddeth: so it is fine to run a gui on a database server if thats what they need
[12:20] <Maddeth> ikonia: phpmyadmin
[12:20] <ikonia> Maddeth: so ?
[12:20] <ikonia> Maddeth: that's running a web server on a database server with php - which is a risk from a security point and a waste of resources
[12:20] <ikonia> your move
[12:20] <Maddeth> ikonia: I actually responded to you about not requiring a GUI, after reading up, not the person asking the question
[12:20] <koell> i prefer ncurses :D
[12:21] <ikonia> Maddeth: and shown how wrong you are
[12:21] <koell> people fail, does it matter?
[12:21] <Maddeth> ikonia: I don't get how personal opinion is "wrong"
[12:21] <ikonia> Maddeth: so you've gone from "don't use X11 on a production server because it a waste of resources" to "install a security hole, and a waste of resource web server on a database server"
[12:21] <ikonia> Maddeth: see above, that's how it's wrong
[12:22] <gartral> ikonia: as someone who has a dedicated server humming in his closet 24/7, I can confirm that without running a gui, it is far more stable (and secure) then had it been an X Server...
[12:22] <ikonia> ha ha ha ha ha
[12:22] <ikonia> gartral: thanks for that ill informed snippet
[12:22] <Maddeth> ikonia: how is it a security hole?
[12:22] <Poss-mobile> Is there a way to quickly uninstall a manual  graphics driver install?
[12:22] <PsychoX75> oh for the sake of "all that is holy".    I dont even use my machine in production. It's just a home computer for my home.
[12:22] <PsychoX75> You guys are at it for more than 5 minutes.    0_o
[12:22] <ikonia> Maddeth: webservers are a risk, they can be open to exploit and attack giving access to the whole server, php is a bigger risk making the database open", plus you're webserver is also a waste of resources
[12:22] <Maddeth> PsychoX75: don't worry :) debate is healthy
[12:22] <arlen> Welcome to irc
[12:23] <gartral> PsychoX75: welcome to #ubuntu..
[12:23] <PsychoX75> oh... hmm.... ok
[12:23] <PsychoX75> HAHAH
[12:23] <bekks> Maddeth: PHP is known to have a lot of security issues, since from the point of secure programming, it is just a nightmare. You shoould know that when using it.
[12:23] <gartral> bekks: same with X...
[12:23] <Maddeth> ikonia: on the contrary, a webserver uses lest RAM than video, and that was an alternative option to a GUI, also you nullify the risk when set up propery, as with anything
[12:23] <bekks> gartral: Yeah.
[12:24] <bekks> Maddeth: "less RAM than video" is nonsense, sorry.
[12:24] <ikonia> great level of experienced view there "x11 is bad" but running a webserver and database server with commmon known exploits is "ok" - as is the waste of resources of the webserver
[12:24] <ikonia> Maddeth: if I connect 10000 hosts to your webserver, it will use more ram than the 1 meg of video card ram a gui runs
[12:24] <ciclope> salve
[12:24] <gordonjcp> phpmyadmin, rofl
[12:24] <Maddeth> why would 10000 hosts connect via phpmyadmin to y database server?
[12:24] <gordonjcp> you know what's simpler than phpmyadmin?
[12:24] <ikonia> this is pointless discussing with sucg blind in experiences
[12:24] <gordonjcp> posting your root password on reddit
[12:25] <bekks> Maddeth: And There is no known setup that "nullifies" the risk of a webserver to be exploited. So please, dont tell people obviously wrong things as "facts".
[12:25] <ikonia> Maddeth: the fact that you've just asked that makes it a closed discussion now
[12:25] <ikonia> no point continuing and form of actual thought out discussion now.
[12:25] <gartral> ugh... I disengage..
[12:26] <Maddeth> ikonia: you are the one using the words "wrong" I am having an insightful debate
[12:26] <Maddeth> word*
[12:26] <ikonia> Maddeth: I use the word wrong becuase your information and approach is "wrong"
[12:26] <koell> we need jono bacon!
[12:27] <Maddeth> ikonia: you are not giving actual reasoning, just saying I am wrong
[12:27] <ikonia> Maddeth: then you are not reading, as I've just explained it in resonable detail
[12:27] <bekks> Maddeth: He proved every statement of you to bo wrong.
[12:27] <gordonjcp> Maddeth: well, phpmyadmin is inefficient
[12:27] <Maddeth> it was an example of alternative to a GUI
[12:27] <gordonjcp> Maddeth: it can take up to ten minutes for your server to get broken into, using phpmyadmin
[12:27] <gordonjcp> Maddeth: there are far quicker alternatives for getting 0wned
[12:27] <ikonia> Maddeth: no, it was wrong and now you are trying to back track as oyu did with the other statements you made.
[12:28] <bekks> gordonjcp: "up to" :D
[12:28] <Maddeth> gordonjcp: why would you ever make phpmyadmin publivc facing?
[12:28] <Poss-mobile> Ive been at this for several hours and things were almost working. I just want to sleep :(
[12:28] <gordonjcp> Maddeth: you don't need to
[12:28] <gartral> alright.. this is no longer in the scope of #ubuntu.. take it too #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:28] <ikonia> gartral: it would appear so, my apologies for letting it carry on, however the snotty "I don't use a gui it's a waste" to someone asking for help needs to be cleared up
[12:29] <Maddeth> ikonia: as I already stated, and you failed to read, that was a response to you
[12:29] <ikonia> Maddeth: yes, and it was still wrong
[12:29] <Poss-mobile> I am in scope. I just want to undo the nvidia driver install i just did manually.
[12:30] <Maddeth> ikonia: I already agreed to that too
[12:30] <gartral> ikonia: while I can agree with you, I myself would agree that in *MOST* server environments, it's both a waste and an inconvenient.. that said, server-related issues have a special place here.. #ubuntu-server
[12:30] <ikonia> gartral: I don't disagree that a gui shouldn't be in place by default, however someone running a media server at home - no problem, bu then smart comments of "I don't run a gui, it's a waste" that are just pointless then needed to be justified,
[12:31] <koell> ubuntu server is definetely for home usage!
[12:31] <gartral> ikonia: here's the justification, different people have different tastes!
[12:31] <gordonjcp> and frankly, if you're running an HTPC that also functions as a server, you should just install XBMCbuntu and then tack on your server packages as you see fit
[12:31] <ikonia> it can be used just fine at home or in the enterprise
[12:31] <ikonia> gartral: of course,
[12:32] <gartral> koell: if your serious about running a good server, such as I am, then sure
[12:35] <Poss-mobile> This morning i had a functioning 13.10 with nvidia 331 which had been running just fine. Then i ran an update and everything broke. #ubuntu told me to reinstall, and i have done so, multiple times. I finally had it functioning with 319, and i thought I'd try 331 since everything looked fine. That has failed, so i want to know how to revert from manual 331 to 319 from terminal.  Can anyone jelp so i can go to sleep?
[12:35] <ikonia> why do you keep changing the driver from a working one to a broken one ?
[12:35] <bekks> Poss-mobile: Some minutes ago you said you manually installed nvidia, not using an ubuntu package?
[12:35] <Poss-mobile> Yes bekks.
[12:36] <hitsujiTMO> Poss-mobile: run the uninstaller on the installer you used to install 331
[12:36] <bekks> Poss-mobile: Which is pretty contrary to what you just said then.
[12:36] <gartral> Poss-mobile: to get to the bottom of the issues here.. what particular nvidia card do you have?
[12:37] <Poss-mobile> Its not contrary bekks, i ran 331 manually.  Gartal, my card is a gtx 570
[12:37] <Ben64> the reason why you're having problems is manually installing nvidia drivers
[12:37] <bekks> Poss-mobile: Why did you change the driver to a non-working one?
[12:38] <hitsujiTMO> Poss-mobile: did you install 331cwhile 319 was still installed?
[12:38] <Poss-mobile> 331 has been working for me for weeks. I am trying to get back to where i was this morning
[12:39] <gartral> Ben64 bekks actually, it would appear that the 331 drivers are slightly broken for all GTX5xx cards, anyone running any other series seems ok..
[12:39] <bekks> gordonjcp: Then I am wondering why he keeps changing to a broken driver even more.
[12:40] <Poss-mobile> Yes hitsuji, the inataller said it'd replace the existing driver. I want 331 because it resolves issues in games, it wasn't broken until i updated ubuntu this morning
[12:40] <Ben64> almost every time someone installs nvidia manually, its a bad idea. if it was "working for me for weeks" then its not a problem with the card. its a problem with manually installing the driver
[12:41] <gartral> Ben64: I believe Poss-mobile was refering to the driver version working for weeks
[12:41] <hitsujiTMO> Poss-mobile: the installer can't "replace" the exising driver because its not installed by the nvidia installer. You MUST remove the 319 before install 331
[12:41] <onizu> hi,
[12:42] <onizu> shoonya, namaste
[12:42] <hitsujiTMO> Poss-mobile: can you pastebin the output of: dmesg
[12:42] <onizu> libglu1-mesa is already the newest version.
[12:42] <Poss-mobile> No paste binning from my phone, sorry
[12:43] <onizu> @ bekks
[12:43] <hitsujiTMO> Poss-mobile: do you have internet access on that machine now from the terminal?
[12:43] <bekks> onizu: Is the application you are trying to run 32 or 64bit?
[12:44] <Poss-mobile> I do hotsuji,
[12:44] <hitsujiTMO> Poss-mobile: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit
[12:44] <hitsujiTMO> Poss-mobile: when that completes it should return a url
[12:47] <Poss-mobile> I just ran apt-get remove 319 and then manually did 331, and it now appears to be working. Thankyou hitsuji
[12:48] <hitsujiTMO> Poss-mobile: np
[12:49] <Poss-mobile> Thankyou to everyone else for being there too, now i can sleep :)
[12:50] <triplc> Hi all
[12:51] <triplc> what is a command line to list all 'local' packages?
[12:51] <hitsujiTMO> triplc: you mean installed packages? dpkg --get-selections
[12:51] <triplc> namely packages installed by 'dpkg -i pkg.deb'
[12:52] <triplc> well... not all install ones
[12:53] <triplc> only ones that are installed by: dpkg -i, or sudo checkinstall,...
[12:54] <MDK> hello! can someone tell me what package contains /lib/udev/keymap
[12:55] <triplc> apt-file search pkg.name
[12:55] <triplc> apt-file search filename
[12:55] <hitsujiTMO> triplc:every package is installed from a .deb
[12:56] <triplc> hitsujiTMO: i mean... packages that are not install from repositories
[12:56] <triplc> MDK: i think package 'udev' (i am using 12.04); for systemd stuff, thinks may be different
[12:57] <triplc> hitsujiTMO: when i run synaptic, there is a part that list all 'local or obsolete' packages
[12:57] <triplc> but synaptic is GUI
[12:57] <triplc> i would like to know if there is a command that does that job
[12:57] <MDK> triplc, I'm trying to get a usb presenter to work, however that file is missing from my system..
[12:59] <triplc> MDK: i think your issue may not is about finding package that contain that /lib/udev stuff
[12:59] <triplc> MDK: apparently, udev or something equivalent must be installed
[13:00] <hitsujiTMO> triplc: Not seeing anything that can do that. I'd assume synaptics is listing packages that don't exist in the apt-cache for that
[13:00] <triplc> hitsujiTMO: i see
[13:00] <MDK> triplc, I compared the /lib/udev/ directory to a kubuntu installation (I'm running lubuntu right now) and the only thing missing is this "keymap" file
[13:06] <pip__> I've just installed samab but the dash search says it cant find it any ideas?
[13:07] <pip__> synaptic tells me it's installed & yes I have rebooted the rig
[13:08] <hitsujiTMO> pip__: can you launch it from the terminal?
[13:08] <hitsujiTMO> pip__: what is samab and how did you install it exactly?
[13:09] <pip__> hitsujiTMO: uh - looks like there's something not installed ,
[13:09] <pip__> hitsujiTMO: sorry samba
[13:09] <bekks> pip__: Samba is not an "application" you run from the dash. It is a server daemon you have to configure.
[13:09] <bekks> !samba | pip__
[13:10] <hitsujiTMO> pip__: if you want a gui for samba you need to install something like SWAT
[13:10] <pip__> thanks for the links
[13:10] <cyford> are you looking to make smb shares,  or u want to connect to one?
[13:11] <pip__> hitsujiTMO: i had the system cinfig installed, but the whole thing went awry, so I'm starting from scratch & not gettign started seemingly
[13:11] <pip__> USB sticks for the win
[13:12] <pip__> I'm trying to make a basic home file server
[13:12] <hitsujiTMO> pip__: check out swat. I haven't used it myself, but have heard it makes samba config a lot easier
[13:12] <bekks> pip__: Did you read the articles yet?
[13:12] <pip__> I have them before me, trying to work through them step by step, also looking at  you tube video
[13:12] <stephan_> \join #gevent
[13:13] <pip__> ok, now my rig is telling me samba is there - good, step 1 complete
[13:13] <bekks> pip__: Step 2 is - open the links given :)
[13:14] <pip__> lol, done that too mate :)
[13:15] <pip__> at least I can work with it now, in a pristine form & mess it up again from this point
[13:15] <cyford> can also use webmin
[13:15] <cyford>   for samba gui
[13:15] <hitsujiTMO> !webmin | cyford no you can't
[13:16] <pip__> would you chaps advise cli or gui for config - I think mixing the 2 may be asking for more trouble?
[13:16] <cyford> wow
[13:16] <cyford>   i noticed for networking
[13:16] <cyford>   lol
[13:17] <hitsujiTMO> pip__: cli is always good for me, but a few of the top contributers hare have suggested swat as a web based gui for samba
[13:17] <onizu> bekks, it is 32-bit
[13:17] <pip__> ha - my bookmark list on firefox is expanding rapidly
[13:17] <onizu> bekks, and my os is 64-bit
[13:18] <pip__> hitsujiTMO: think I'm going to try CLI, to get over my fear of it
[13:18] <bekks> onizu: And the mesa package that is already installed - is it 32 or 64bit?
[13:19] <onizu> bekks, how do i find out?
[13:19] <cyford> I wish i had a hot geeky linux girl next door
[13:19] <onizu> bekks, it just says libglu1-mesa
[13:20] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep mesa
[13:20] <bekks> onizu: What is "it"?
[13:20] <onizu> cyford, why next door? why not at your home?
[13:20] <onizu> bekks, terminal
[13:20] <cyford> lol    So true
[13:20] <onizu> bekks, libglu1-mesa is already the newest version.
[13:20] <onizu> bekks, when i tried to install it
[13:20] <cyford> probably both be on the pc all day anyway
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa:i386
[13:21] <onizu> cyford, on the pc? what do you mean?
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | cyford
[13:21] <onizu> libglu1-mesa:i386 is already the newest version.
[13:21] <onizu> libglu1-mesa:i386 set to manually installed.
[13:21] <cyford> opps
[13:22] <cyford> ok
[13:22] <onizu> join it cyford
[13:23] <cyford> ok  1 sec
[13:23] <onizu> hitsujiTMO, so it is installed
[13:23] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: yup. what exactly are you trying to run?
[13:23] <threesom1> Hi, I'm trying to use 'feh' to set the background, but I read that I'm supposed to disable Nautilus from controlling the desktop first (feh isn't working for me now) by doing "$ gconftool-2 --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop --type boolean false" but this command doesn't work on Ubuntu 13.10. Any idea how I can get Nautilus or Gnome not to control the desktop so I can get feh to do it for me?
[13:23] <Janhouse> How can I disable plymout?
[13:24] <Janhouse> xubuntu 12.04 uses plymoyth, right?
[13:24] <onizu> hitsujiTMO, /opt/dassault-systemes/DraftSight/Linux/DraftSight
[13:24] <onizu> hitsujiTMO, i installed it via a .deb
[13:24] <hitsujiTMO> Janhouse: remove "splash" from /etc/default/grub        and then run: sudo update-grub
[13:25] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: what happens when you try to run it?
[13:25] <koell> hi i would like to create a bootable usb stick with windows xp on it. can i use dd the same way like i create an ubuntu stick?
[13:25] <Janhouse> thx!
[13:26] <triplc> koell: i tried that before but it did not work
[13:27] <Janhouse> also, what the hell is "Loading saved state from the serial device" that takes so long during boot?
[13:27] <tux_> hello all!
[13:28] <tux_> how made energy saving for slitaz ?
[13:28] <mariuszdo> hello everyone
[13:28] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: have you tried running: sudo apt-get -f install
[13:29] <onizu> yeah
[13:29] <onizu> hey, it ran this time.. oddly
[13:29] <onizu> i think something got installed / fixed after i  installed wine
[13:29] <onizu> anyways, thanks
[13:30] <onizu> hi harshadura
[13:30] <onizu> how many here are from india?
[13:30] <tux_> onizu, i from russia)
[13:31] <MDK>  /join #systemd
[13:31] <ian_5426745> hi, how can I reset my nickname password?
[13:31] <onizu> tux_, привет
[13:31] <tux_> onizu, hi)
[13:32] <FourFire> Hello
[13:32] <FourFire> I have mounted an iso file and I want to find it's path
[13:32] <FourFire> how can I most easily do this?
[13:32] <bekks> Where have you mounted it to? :)
[13:32] <koell> is ther eno way to install windows xp on a usb stick in ubuntu?
[13:32] <FourFire> it's on "network"
[13:32] <bekks> koell: No.
[13:33] <FourFire> I mounted it by rightclicking it in nautilus
[13:33] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: can you find it in: mount
[13:33] <koell> Oo
[13:33] <FourFire> you mean /mnt/ ?
[13:33] <bekks> FourFire: No. "mount"
[13:33] <bekks> FourFire: Thats a command to be typed into your terminal.
[13:33] <koell> i know its not supported anymore, but i need xp :(
[13:34] <FourFire> ah right
[13:34] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: no mount the command. I'd expect it to be mounted in: /media/$USER
[13:34] <bekks> koell: Whatever you need, there is no way to install XP on a USB, neither there is such a way using Ubuntu.
[13:34] <FourFire> stuff came up from that command, but I don't know how to interpret it
[13:36] <FourFire> In /media/ there is only a single file called apt
[13:36] <FourFire> and I'm not allowed to look inside
[13:36] <stefg> FourFire: So did you mount the ISO using the GUI (clicked on it) or by command line (like mount -o loop some.iso /mnt) ?
[13:36] <FourFire> GUI
[13:36] <FourFire> I tried via command, but I couldn't get it to work for some reason...
[13:36] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && mount | pastebinit
[13:37] <bekks> FourFire: the mount command you tried told you the reasons :)
[13:37] <FourFire> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6861382/
[13:37] <FourFire> is line 13 it?
[13:37] <FourFire> .gvfs
[13:38] <bekks> FourFire: Thats the gnome virtual file system pseudo mount stuff. Not what you are looking for,
[13:38] <FourFire> bekks, nope the command only outputted instructions on how to properly use the command
[13:38] <bekks> FourFire: If you want a path to your "mount", then you have to mount it using the "mount" command.
[13:38] <FourFire> alright
[13:38] <bekks> FourFire: So you didnt use the command properly.
[13:39] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: i don't see any mounted iso
[13:39] <FourFire> ok, I'll unmount and remount it via terminal
[13:39] <FourFire> I can see the file mounted in the side menu in nautilus
[13:39] <bekks> FourFire: And it is not mounted using a file path.
[13:39] <FourFire> but it's under "Network" and not "Computer", like other devices mount
[13:40] <ian_5426746> is nickserv broken?? it tells me I have invalid password
[13:40] <bekks> FourFire: If you want to access using a filepath, you have to mount it using the mount command.
[13:40] <FourFire> yeah, proceeding
[13:41] <mariuszdo> hello again ... can anyone of you tell me how to find out which ubuntu i should use for a computer that's a bunch of miles away from me?
[13:41] <ian_5426746> after registering it 5 mins ago
[13:41] <mariuszdo> it's a hp probook 4540s
[13:41] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: it may be in the gvfs is its mounted under network then. Sign that something may have gone a bit wrong tho. Just tested here and iso's mount under devices and show up in mount output clearly
[13:41] <ikonia> ian_5426746: talk to #freenode
[13:41] <mariuszdo> and i'm currently browsing through your wiki and searchengines
[13:41] <ian_5426746> ok sorry, wrong room
[13:42] <mariuszdo> hello again ... can anyone of you tell me how to find out which ubuntu i should use for a computer (hp probook 4540s) that's a bunch of miles away from me? ... i just need to be able to boot the system via a live-cd ... and mount an external hard disk and copy some files
[13:43] <ikonia> mariuszdo: which ever one you want
[13:43] <bekks> mariuszdo: 12.04
[13:43] <hitsujiTMO> mariuszdo: 12.04 or 13.10
[13:44] <mariuszdo> thanks for your answers ... can you further elaborate why you made this suggestion?
[13:44] <stefg> mariuszdo: To really judge that it would be more important to know what this computer is meant to do, not where it is located. Like all Unices Ubuntu is quite network transparent, so having the box on your desk or half around the globe doesn't matter that much
[13:44] <bekks> mariuszdo: Because that the current LTS version with the longest support.
[13:44] <FourFire> marienz, don't use Ubuntu 14.04 or anything that was last updated in 2008
[13:44] <FourFire> otherwise, anything goes
[13:44] <bekks> FourFire: 14.4 isnt even released.
[13:44] <FourFire> bekks, exactly
[13:44] <bekks> FourFire: And 12.04 gets updates until 2017.
[13:45] <FourFire> it's also horribly broken
[13:45] <bekks> FourFire: Which is FUD, honestly.
[13:45] <FourFire> well it needs to be fixed before Canonical can officially release it
[13:45] <ikonia> FourFire: just stop talking please
[13:45] <ikonia> FourFire: unless you can actually add value with factual help/support, please stop
[13:47] <mariuszdo> ok ... well ... the following question may sound strange but ... when i plug in a usb-hdd ... do they usually work without me having to do something?
[13:47] <mariuszdo> and is it bad to still use the 32bit-versions?
[13:47] <ikonia> it's never been bad to use 32bit versions
[13:47] <mariuszdo> : )
[13:47] <stefg> mariuszdo: usually on the desktop editions of ubuntu the disk gets auto-mounted under /media
[13:48] <mariuszdo> thanks ;)
[13:48] <mariuszdo> and well i had to ask ...
[13:49] <FourFire> this isn't mounting
[13:49] <mariuszdo> i wasn't that sure about all that any more ... sorry ... am a little nervous ;)
[13:49] <yeats> FourFire: are you using 14.04?
[13:49] <FourFire> and it's not saying what the error is either
[13:49] <stefg> mariuszdo: if you never plan to have more than 4G of ram 32-bit is fine... only exceptions maybe boxes which do video transcoding.  number crunching is best done on 64bit
[13:49] <FourFire> yeats, nope 12.04
[13:49] <mariuszdo> well stefg ... i'm just trying to backup some files from the computer ...
[13:49] <bekks> mariuszdo: When your hardware is capable of 64bit, just use 64bit.
[13:50] <mariuszdo> and later try reinstalling everything if i'm asked to do that as well
[13:50] <t0by> Hi, sorry... what should I install to have the ctime.h header?
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> t0by: you should ask that in ##c
[13:50] <FourFire> the command IS "sudo mount -o loop /directory/path/name.iso /mnt/" isn't it?
[13:50] <stefg> yup
[13:51] <t0by> hitsujiTMO, well, it's a very ubuntu (or at least debian) specific question.
[13:51] <mariuszdo> brb
[13:51] <FourFire> let me try putting the file in root directory
[13:51] <ikonia> why not try random things
[13:51] <ikonia> rather than actually play thought into trouble shooting the problem
[13:51] <FourFire> there's something odd which happened to my /Home/home/ directory
[13:51] <t0by> hitsujiTMO,  If I asked that in ##c I guess they would tell me "refer to your distro/compiler's docs/supports ;)"
[13:52] <FourFire> I have two layers because of some BS I did earlier and I'm too scared to fix it just yet
[13:53] <t0by> FourFire, "yo dawg etc" :P
[13:53] <FourFire> ikonia, well I don't really know at all how operating systems are supposed to work, so if you can add anything I'd be glad.
[13:54] <ikonia> FourFire: you'll get help if you state the problem clearly with any useful information, rather than just commentating on the random things you are doing
[13:55] <hitsujiTMO> t0by: it seems to be a base header. how are you tring to include it?
[13:55] <FourFire> ikonia, I am trying to mount an iso file. I need to use this file in PoL so once I do that I need the path
[13:55] <ikonia> FourFire: POL ?
[13:55] <ikonia> FourFire: what ISO ?
[13:55] <FourFire> PlayOnLinux
[13:56] <FourFire> a program .iso
[13:56] <ikonia> ok, and at that point I'm out as you can't be bothered to answer my questions clearly
[13:56] <ikonia> I asked what iso - you said " a program iso" - good luck
[13:56] <FourFire> right.
[13:56] <stefg> !iso
[13:59] <mariuszdo> i see 12.04.3 is 707 MB in size ... i'll need a dvd for that then, right?
[13:59] <ikonia> correct
[13:59] <mariuszdo> ok
[14:00] <mariuszdo> would 13.10 contain better drivers for the notebook i mentioned before ikonia ? what do you think?
[14:00] <mariuszdo> i haven't really yet decided ;)
[14:00] <stefg> mariuszdo: consider a usb-stick... optical media in general DO suck. slow and unreliable...
[14:00] <ikonia> mariuszdo: what do you care ? you said you just wanted to mount a disk and copy off some files
[14:00] <hitsujiTMO> t0by: yup just checked. It's a base header. you don't need to install anything specific
[14:00] <ikonia> mariuszdo: just do exactly that,
[14:01] <mariuszdo> stefg ... i don't have one yet :) and i can't buy one at the moment
[14:01] <MoleMan> how can I rename a network interface in Ubuntu-Server 13.04? all the instructions I can find say to edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules which doesn't exist
[14:01] <mariuszdo> i just want everything to run smoothly ;) ikonia
[14:01] <ikonia> MoleMan: rename them to what
[14:01] <ikonia> mariuszdo: right, so do what you've been advised to do
[14:02] <stefg> mariuszdo: Oh, i see... a case of Murphy's Law. F**ked'up windows box and no media or money at hand :-}
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> is 13.04 still supported?
[14:02] <MoleMan> ikonia: from em1 to eth0
[14:02] <ikonia> stefg: there is no need for that language, please don't use it again
[14:02] <ikonia> MoleMan: that is not done with the persistant net file
[14:02] <ikonia> MoleMan: you should use the correct device name, which is em1
[14:03] <hitsujiTMO> MonkeyDust: no
[14:03] <mariuszdo> stefg ... 1) no need to curse ;) ... 2) yes, from what i heard ... windows was installed on this computer
[14:03] <MoleMan> ikonia: fine, if you're going to insist on not answering the question, why is em1 used instead of eth0, and why shouldn't I rename it to eth0?
[14:04] <ikonia> MoleMan: I've just answered the questio and thrown in some extra info.
[14:04] <MoleMan> no you didn't, you refused to answer the question and said I shouldn't instead
[14:05] <ikonia> MoleMan: I told you it wasn't configured where you thought it was, and explained that you shouldn't be trying to change it,
[14:05] <MoleMan> AKA didn't answer the question
[14:05] <ikonia> ok, good luck then
[14:05] <MoleMan> regardless, could you answer my other two questions please?
[14:05] <ikonia> trying to be smart, gets you no discussion
[14:06] <MoleMan> ikonia: I tried to discuss it and ask you follow up questions, you started arguing
[14:06] <ikonia> MoleMan: AKA trying to be smart
[14:06] <t0by> MoleMan, wtf
[14:06] <ikonia> t0by: there is no need for the language, please don't
[14:06] <t0by> hitsujiTMO, of course I was compiling with gcc instead of g++ :-<
[14:07] <MoleMan> ikonia: stop getting butthurt over someone saying wtf
[14:07] <t0by> (Not my fault though, bogus makefile)
[14:07] <MoleMan> t0by: what?
[14:07] <t0by> LOL.
[14:08] <MoleMan> aaw, sweet, the 6 year old can't handle being mature so likes to flex his op instead
[14:08] <MoleMan> thanks for the help
[14:13] <stefg> On a fresh 13.10/64bit install pulse audio decided to make the HDMI output the default audio output device set. This is quite annoying, since i have to switch over to analog headphones everytime i log in.  I tried http://superuser.com/questions/137805/set-default-system-audio-output-port-for-all-accounts  and http://askubuntu.com/questions/14077/how-can-i-change-the-default-audio-device-from-comma
[14:13] <stefg> nd-line, but it didn't work out. Still HDMI  is selected after login.   Some pulseaudio expert ready to help?
[14:14] <stefg> !sound
[14:14] <DarkAceXtreme> is Ubuntu 13 going to be slower than 10? it's on a very old machine
[14:14] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: probably
[14:14] <stefg> aplay -l output at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6861538/
[14:14] <ikonia> in terms of raw computing, no, in terms of user experience, probably
[14:15] <DarkAceXtreme> is xubuntu what I want, then?
[14:15] <ikonia> why do you need/want to change ?
[14:15] <DarkAceXtreme> 10 is a little outdated, and my USB belkin wireless isn't working
[14:15] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: how old is "old"
[14:16] <DarkAceXtreme> I recently moved the PC, and I kind of need the wireless USB
[14:16] <DarkAceXtreme> 10.04
[14:16] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: what sort of hardware
[14:16] <ikonia> no, that's the OS, I'm talking about the PC,
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> DarkAceXtreme: what processor do you have? how much ram?
[14:16] <DarkAceXtreme> o that
[14:16] <stefg> DarkAceXtreme: Can you define "old machine" in terms of CPU/Ram?
[14:16] <DarkAceXtreme> 2GB RAM
[14:17] <DarkAceXtreme> hold on
[14:17]  * stefg considers a Pentium III with 256 MB an "old machine" . Lucid/openbox ran pretty well on it...
[14:18] <hitsujiTMO> DarkAceXtreme: 12.04 should run fine. For light use ubuntu should fine, for heavier use swich down to lubuntu/xubuntu too free up some more ram
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> stefg  to the youngest among us, 6 months is "old"
[14:18] <DarkAceXtreme> Processor 0/1: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3600+
[14:19] <stefg> DarkAceXtreme: That's recent enough to chew up everything you throw at it, IMHO.
[14:19] <FourFire> ikonia, I decided to just burn the .iso to a disk, thanks for your help.
[14:20] <DarkAceXtreme> but I run an IRC client that sucks up everything possible
[14:20] <ikonia> FourFire: I didn't help, I refused to help you, so no idea why you are thanking me, even sarcastically
[14:20] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: really ? what client is that ?
[14:21] <DarkAceXtreme> its settings is what makes it suck up everything possible, I mean
[14:21] <DarkAceXtreme> xchat/hexchat
[14:21] <FourFire> ikonia, no, you made me realize that if I required this much help then it would actualy be easier to take an alternative route
[14:21] <DarkAceXtreme> 1000+ channels
[14:21] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: that really shouldn't take up that much resources, thats more network traffic
[14:22] <DarkAceXtreme> my hard drive is slow at writing, I guess
[14:22] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: that really shouldn't be a problem
[14:22] <hitsujiTMO> DarkAceXtreme: 1000+ channels? are you using it for spam or something?
[14:23] <DarkAceXtreme> yes of course
[14:23] <DarkAceXtreme> no
[14:23] <ikonia> that is a lot of channels, true
[14:23] <DarkAceXtreme> when there's a netsplit, though, the whole client freezes up for so long that it pings out on all the networks
[14:23] <DarkAceXtreme> so it freezes up longer
[14:23] <stefg> DarkAceXtreme: Ever considered a super-cluster of raspberry pis for that job? :-)
[14:24] <DarkAceXtreme> I guess it's because of a slow disk, then
[14:24] <DarkAceXtreme> lol
[14:24] <DarkAceXtreme> I thought about getting one of those
[14:24] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: that's not going to be disk
[14:24] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: that's network buffering
[14:24] <DarkAceXtreme> I was on wired previously
[14:24] <DarkAceXtreme> and yes, it logs every single quit
[14:24] <ikonia> it's still going to buffer a huge hit
[14:24] <hitsujiTMO> ikonia: or its the logging causing it
[14:24] <DarkAceXtreme> to disc, in two different locations
[14:25] <ikonia> hitsujiTMO: it is possible, but the logging should only be commit to disk,
[14:25] <ikonia> so the performance shouldn't kill it, but you could also calm the logging down
[14:25] <DarkAceXtreme> every single person that was on the server gets a quit message, and when you're on 50 channels of the network, that's a lot of writing
[14:25] <DarkAceXtreme> so installing Ubuntu 13 won't make this any worse?
[14:25] <hitsujiTMO> DarkAceXtreme: no thats not going to make it worse
[14:26] <ikonia> the video card should be your real concern with ubuntu 13.10
[14:26] <ikonia> if it will support unity
[14:26] <hitsujiTMO> DarkAceXtreme: do you need logging?
[14:26] <stefg> DarkAceXtreme: you have a completely different set of problems than worrying if an application uses 1% or 1.1% of your CPU
[14:27] <DarkAceXtreme> what's the point of being in 1000 channels if you can't log them? :P
[14:27] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: serious question - why do you need 1000 channels ?
[14:27] <DarkAceXtreme> because it's fun
[14:27] <ikonia> you can't actually hope to particiapte in them, why do you need them
[14:28] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: "it's fun" - please, try to be honest at least
[14:28] <DarkAceXtreme> it's true
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> and most channels will have online logs so you dont need to log
[14:28] <DarkAceXtreme> what do you want to hear?
[14:28] <ikonia> it's fun to type "join 1000" times ??? great
[14:28] <DarkAceXtreme> oh, now you don't believe me
[14:28] <imghost> lol
[14:28] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: just wanted to understand your goals to see if there was something we could do to make it work a little better for you
[14:28] <max3> i hosed something real good. i have a package dependency that synaptic says is unresolvable. so i go to manually install the dependency and in simultaneously almost every package on my system is marked to be removed, stuff like xorg, ubuntu-desktop
[14:28] <ikonia> max3: PPA ?
[14:29] <max3> ikonia: which ppa is the package in?
[14:29]  * stefg would think about an expensive switch, at least 2 or 3 trunked network ports and a fast SSD / raid array for that application....
[14:29] <max3> ikonia: is that what you're asking me?
[14:29] <ikonia> max3: no, I suspect the PPA is going to have caused the conflict, I'm asking if you are using PPA's
[14:30] <max3> ikonia: i am. i tried unchecking all the ones in synaptic that aren't canonical then it made me uninstall xorg and couldn't reinstall
[14:30] <ikonia> max3: unchecking them does nothing as the packages are already installed/the damage is already done
[14:31] <max3> ikonia: yes of course but i figured it would stop scanning for dependencies for those packages or something like that
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> max3: ppa-purge is the correct way to remove ppas. what package did you install that did this?
[14:31] <ikonia> max3: it's like putting the knife away after you've stabbed yourself, the cut won't just not be there
[14:31] <max3> hitsujiTMO: latest intel graphics drivers
[14:32] <ikonia> so it's probably the whole xorg stack that's been updated
[14:32] <max3> what's the syntax for ppa purge
[14:32] <hitsujiTMO> max3: ... can i ask why you wanted to install that?
[14:32] <max3> because vmware wasn't giving me 3d support
[14:32] <ikonia> vmware won't....
[14:33] <max3> well there was a solution posted on askubuntu saying that it would
[14:35] <BentFranklin> Running 12.04 LTS:  #uname -r returns 3.2.0-58-generic-pae.  In /usr/src I have many other versions, from 36 to 57, with a couple missing.  Do I need them?
[14:35] <ikonia> BentFranklin: if you remove the packages they will go
[14:35] <BentFranklin> ikonia: Why don't they go when I upgrade?
[14:36] <ikonia> BentFranklin: because the packges don't get removed.
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> BentFranklin  you can use ubuntu-tweak to delete obsolote packages -- not in the repos, install it from the website
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> max3: since its the xorg stack has been upgraded, ppa-purge alone may not be able to bring it back to a stable state. try: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge ppa:ppa/youused
[14:36] <ikonia> or don't
[14:36] <ikonia> there is no need to use ANY tool
[14:36] <ikonia> just uninstall the packages using the package manager that ubuntu provides
[14:36] <max3> hitsujiTMO: yes i'm doing that now
[14:37] <ikonia> there is zero need to use a 3rd party tool that is not in the repo
[14:37] <max3> that's silly
[14:37] <BentFranklin> ikonia;  So, #apt-get remove <what>?
[14:38] <ikonia> BentFranklin: the packages you want to remove, you can do this with the gui if you're not comfortable using the command line
[14:38] <max3> hitsujiTMO: "Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: glasen intel-driver"
[14:38] <stefg> There seems something to be going on with the xorg-edgers ppa. 2 days ago i too hosed a 12.04 system by apt-get upgrade. To be fair i have to admit that it had every ppa and the kitchen sink enabled, it was to be expected some time
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> BentFranklin: list your installed kernels with: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-
[14:38] <BentFranklin> ikonia:  I'm on server version, and I don;t mind using shell, just need to kinow what opackage to remove.
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> max3: did you remove the ppa from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[14:39] <max3> no
[14:39] <ikonia> BentFranklin: ok, so you should have the basic experience of being able to search your packages
[14:39] <ikonia> max3: you said you'd disabled them
[14:39] <ikonia> they can't read the package contents if you've disabled them
[14:39] <max3> ah okay
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> max3: re enable the ppa then try again
[14:41] <max3> k
[14:41] <max3> it did stuff
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> BentFranklin: you will want to remove the linux-image-*-generic, linux-headers-* and linux-headers-*-generic for the kernel version you no longer want
[14:43] <mariuszdo> ok ... thanks everyone ... i'll try to be back later ... GOD loves you ... may HE also bless you :)
[14:43] <BentFranklin> ikonia: Thanks
[14:43] <BentFranklin> hitsujiTMO: Thanks
[14:43] <max3> is there a way to find out what i have installed from which ppa?
[14:45] <t0by> Sorry, somaen & folks - have you ever successfully compiled wmelite + bass under linux some time?
[14:45] <hitsujiTMO> max3: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-list-packages-from-ppa.html
[14:45] <t0by> i seemingly can't build bass.
[14:45] <max3> hitsujiTMO: thanks a lot
[14:46] <t0by> Sorry, wrong chan :P
[14:47] <max3> hitsujiTMO: that shows only packages installed this instance
[14:47] <max3> not all time
[14:47] <roast_> good morning folks, anyone here using ipv6 exclusively with ubuntu?
[14:48] <roast_> i timeout when connecting to servers after i issue "apt-get update"
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> max3: ahh, any old packages may have references removed
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> so its hard to track them
[14:49] <max3> hitsujiTMO: actually reloading synaptic did it
[14:50] <roast_> can anyone reach security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::14)
[14:50] <ikonia> roast_: that host appears down
[14:51] <ikonia> roast_: it's other ip addresses appear to be responding fine
[14:52] <roast_> ikonia: :13 and :15?
[14:52] <ikonia> roast_: not checked all of them.
[14:53] <roast_> ikonia: OK, i have suspect it's a 'me' issue rather than ubuntu. i thought the same with morgan.freenode but i found out morgan gets ddos'd (ipv6) a lot
[14:53] <roast_> ikonia: -have
[14:53] <ikonia> roast_: well, that initial IP is dead for me too
[14:54] <roast_> i'm testing :15 , :18 right now
[14:54] <roast_> security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1360:8c01::19) is down
[14:55] <roast_> ah, ipv6, where script kiddies wreak havoc on early adopters
[14:56] <daftykin1> didn't realise IPv6 gets so much hassle
[14:59] <roast_> daftykins: it's part me, part them, don't let me fool you into thinking my setup is correct.
[15:00] <daftykins> hehe, what crazy have you got running to convolute things? :)
[15:01] <roast_> daftykins: ipv6 only ubuntu vm
[15:06] <pip__> when I follow these instructions I can see the folders I'd like to have access to froma another machine, but can't mount them - permission denied  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[15:06] <pip__> can anybody tell me why?
[15:07] <pip__> ubuntu 13.10, fresh install
[15:07] <daftykins> pip__: have you created a password with smbpasswd ?
[15:07] <daftykins> for your user
[15:08] <pip__> no, that's not in the instructions
[15:08] <daftykins> are you using security = user?
[15:08] <daftykins> and guest mode?
[15:08] <pip__> by the way at this point I'm trying to access the desired folders from another ubuntu machine
[15:08] <daftykins> and what process are you using to try and access it?
[15:09] <pip__> connect to server - which finds the folders no probs
[15:09] <pip__> from nautilus
[15:09] <uporot> onizu, ?
[15:09] <onizu> uporot, ?
[15:09] <pip__> I had security = user, changerd it to security = share
[15:09] <uporot> yes, i rename
[15:09] <pip__> the issue persists regardless
[15:10] <uporot> my old nickname is tux
[15:10] <onizu> oh
[15:10] <daftykins> pip__: i'm not familiar with that setting - but i'm sure it's going to be ruining things
[15:10] <onizu> :)
[15:10] <pip__> I've also tried to create the shares with system-config-samba tool  all to no avail
[15:10] <daftykins> O_O
[15:10] <daftykins> pip__: can you pastebin your smb.conf please
[15:10] <pip__> daftykins: lol, something is ruining things
[15:10] <daftykins> ;)
[15:11] <pip__> daftykins: I could if I knew where i was pastebinning it to#
[15:11] <daftykins> pip__: paste.ubuntu.com will work
[15:11] <daftykins> pip__: pastebin.com is also viable ;)
[15:12] <pip__> daftykins: ok, just a mo or 3
[15:13] <hitsujiTMO> pip__: security = share  is deprecated and should not be used
[15:13] <daftykins> ah a useful tip! ty hitsujiTMO :)
[15:13] <daftykins> that's definitely out then
[15:13] <pip__> daftykins: ok, that's a start innit
[15:14] <daftykins> so show us your smb.conf
[15:14] <daftykins> another good move is to install 'smbclient' on the other system and try using that. it's a CLI utility, so in a terminal you would type for example "smbclient \\IP address\sharename"
[15:15] <daftykins> then you'll see an smb:> prompt
[15:15] <pip__> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6861848/
[15:15] <daftykins> "ls" in that would list the contents if it worked
[15:15] <pip__> thats the chappie
[15:15] <daftykins> pip__: so the path exists, yes? does it have any files in?
[15:15] <daftykins> ( /media/pip/Watchables/Series )
[15:16] <lars_> I have a problem with an installation of samba4, everytime I update the system i get an old error msg that say it cant find the recorses for samba4, it doesnt effect my computer its just a little bit annoying,
[15:16] <BentFranklin> I noticed the files in /boot are not exeutable.  Is that because they are just data to grub?
[15:16] <lars_> and I dont want samba4 anyways so how do I just remove it all?
[15:17] <daftykins> lars_: apt-get remove samba4! :)
[15:17] <OerHeks> you might want to stop the samba service before removal
[15:18] <lars_> okey I guessed it was something like that but didnt want to risk anything ;)
[15:18] <pip__> daftykins: sorry - phone, where are we?
[15:18] <daftykins> scroll up and see :)
[15:18] <pip__> daftykins: yes, the path should have a folder of videos in it
[15:18] <lars_> OerHeks, i dont have any samba service running anyways, dont even remember why I got it in the first place
[15:18] <daftykins> pip__: good good, can you try the smbclient thing too?
[15:19] <pip__> yeah - but, of course, I'm not at the machine now as I got cheesed off & came to see my mum :)
[15:20] <lars_> daftykins, thanks I think that made it. I love simple solutions ;) thanks anyways
[15:20] <daftykins> np!
[15:20] <pip__> daftykins: yeah - but, of course, I'm not at the machine now as I got cheesed off & came to see my mum :)
[15:21] <pip__> daftykins: so I'm installing smbclient on the rigs I'm trying to access the folder from & I'm reverting to security = user?
[15:21] <daftykins> pip__: that's correct
[15:22] <pip__> daftykins: right, I think I can remember that :D
[15:22] <daftykins> pip__: also, you're going to want to create an smb password for your user on the system that's sharing the data
[15:22] <pip__> daftykins: that's the system that's acting as the server yes?
[15:22] <daftykins> pip__: correct
[15:23] <pip__> daftykins: okay, I think I've bookmarked an article for that one
[15:23] <daftykins> pip__: bear in mind if smbclient auto fails, try "smbclient \\IP address\sharename -u username" which should prompt for password entry
[15:23] <pip__> daftykins: ah, okay - I need to make a note of that
[15:24] <daftykins> but try the other first since you've got guest on
[15:24] <pip__> daftykins: will do
[15:25] <pip__> daftykins: at the bottom of my smb.conf should i get rid of the create mask entry?
[15:25] <pip__> daftykins: looks like a hangover from a previous edit of the file to me
[15:26] <daftykins> pip__: it should really be inside the share definition rather than on its' own
[15:26] <daftykins> or just not at all yeah
[15:26] <pip__> daftykins: yeah, I thought so....
[15:26] <daftykins> pip__: also rename the [Series] to [series] to keep it all lowercase
[15:27] <pip__> daftykins: even though that is the folder name?  but that's in the path so...
[15:27] <jordan> hey i was running cyanogen mod 11 on my nexus 4 and updated it as usual and it bricked my phone ive tried n cry tool kit (wich has worked in the past ) but this time for some reason it wont work) ive tried nexus tool kit too but that wont work either the only two things on my phone are clockwork mod recovery and the bootloader someone pllease help
[15:27] <pip__> daftykins: also, why does my browsable have a leading ; comment?
[15:27] <pip__> daftykins: browsable line that is
[15:28] <daftykins> pip__: i think that's commenting it out / not helping, it just means visibility on the network though really for Windows machines etc. it wouldn't hurt to delete that too
[15:28] <amigo_> boa tarde
[15:28] <pip__> daftykins: you know , I've done that a bunch of times & pops up again after restarts
[15:29] <daftykins> pip__: weird O_O
[15:29] <rony> queria uma ajuda com ubuntu 13.10
[15:29] <pip__> daftykins: dude - this whole thing has been weird from the get go
[15:29] <daftykins> pip__: are you sure you're editing and saving correctly to modify that file as root?
[15:29] <daftykins> well not as root, but just with sudo
[15:29] <daftykins> or gksudo if you're using a GUI text editor
[15:29] <pip__> daftykins: I'm sudo nanoing
[15:29] <daftykins> ok
[15:30] <pip__> daftykins: then ctrl x; yes enter
[15:30] <onizu> can i change the colour of the scrollbar but keep everything else the same in ambience theme?
[15:30] <onizu> or ambiance..
[15:30] <rony> algum brasileiro que possa me ajudar
[15:30] <DJones> !br | rony
[15:30] <pip__> daftykins: at least I've got something to work with now.  It was driving me crazy
[15:31] <onizu> !ru
[15:31] <rony> ubuntu-br
[15:31] <onizu> rony: type: /j #ubuntu-br
[15:32] <onizu> !ru | uporot
[15:34] <onizu> would it be possible to run a mac version of a program on linux rather than running its windows version using wine on linux?
[15:35] <Guest36960> hey i was running cyanogen mod 11 on my nexus 4 and updated it as usual and it bricked my phone ive tried n cry tool kit (wich has worked in the past ) but this time for some reason it wont work) ive tried nexus tool kit too but that wont work either the only two things on my phone are clockwork mod recovery and the bootloader someone pllease help
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | Guest36960 this is ubuntu support. try xda-developers.com
[15:37] <daftykins> onizu: i doubt it
[15:38] <onizu> hmm
[15:38] <pip__> daftykins: thanks for your help man, I'll pop back to let you know how it goes
[15:38] <onizu> it's strange coz i would expect a mac ver to run better..
[15:38] <pip__> daftykins: when I try it
[15:39] <pip__> thanks for the help today guys, bye for now
[15:39] <daftykins> pip__: sounds good, i'll be back later too
[15:39] <pip__> daftykins: :)
[15:49] <kali_denali> hi i need a heko
[15:49] <kali_denali> *help
[15:49] <kali_denali> anyone here?
[15:50] <zykotick9> kali_denali: are you using Kali gnu/linux?
[15:50] <kali_denali> ahaha
[15:50] <kali_denali> nope
[15:50] <fangfaced1> Hi
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> kali_denali  what's the output of    /etc/issue
[15:50] <zykotick9> !ask | kali_denali
[15:50] <kali_denali> actually it's a song
[15:51] <kali_denali> elementary OS Luna \n \l
[15:51] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: i guess i asked the wrong question ;)
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> kali_denali  elemntary is not supported here
[15:51] <kali_denali> i installed fluxbox but there is one problem keyboard is slipping
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> !elementary | kali_denali
[15:51] <kali_denali> dont worry i am using virtualbox
[15:51] <kali_denali> ;)
[15:52] <kali_denali> i am using ubuntu on virtualbox and that's having slipping problem
[15:52] <kali_denali> when i try to write ls
[15:52] <kali_denali> it just types lsssssssssss
[15:52] <kali_denali> i had to write very fast otherwise it 'slips'
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> !enter | kali_denali
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> kali_denali: you've a broken 's' key
[15:53] <kali_denali> it's with anything i write
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> kali_denali: is it with every key or a set of keys in a specific area?
[15:54] <kali_denali> every key
[15:54] <kgalahassa> do somebody can guide me to language C chanel
[15:54] <ikonia> kgalahassa: it's called ##c
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> kgalahassa: ##c
[15:55] <kgalahassa> ok, thks
[15:55] <bobptz> guys I have ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> kali_denali: does this happen in grub? or elsewhere preboot?
[15:55] <bobptz> and after this command:  sudo apt-get install libp11-kit-gnome-keyring:i386
[15:56] <bobptz> I get error:   E: Unable to locate package libp11-kit-gnome-keyring:i386
[15:56] <bobptz> why is this?
[15:56] <hitsujiTMO> bobbyd3: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:57] <kgalahassa> hi: for the moment nobody respond in ##c, do someone can help for: writing in C a function that permute two variables?
[15:57] <ikonia> kgalahassa: no, sorry, this chnnel is for ubuntu help - not c help
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> bobptz  that's a long package name, are you sure it's correct? find out by typing     apt-cache search keyring|less
[15:57] <bobptz> let me try
[15:57] <hitsujiTMO> kgalahassa: be patient.
[15:57] <ikonia> kgalahassa: you're not even in the ##c channel, so, you've not even asked in there
[15:58] <bobptz> MonkeyDust, I got a page of messages, what am I looking for?
[15:59] <OerHeks> bobptz, " Deleted on 2013-06-05 by Adam Conrad Failed SRU verification " >> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/i386/libp11-kit-gnome-keyring
[15:59] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:59] <hitsujiTMO> ahh, that would do it
[16:00] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, the result it:  Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[16:00] <bobptz> OerHeks  what does this mean?
[16:01] <bobptz> that this library is not supposed to be in my system?
[16:01] <rustuptwist> installed on my childrens laptops ubuntu then downloaded edubuntu-desktop. How can I get the desktop to reflect the 'default' edubuntu desktop as opposed to the default Ubuntu desktop (both are 12.04.03?
[16:01] <bobptz> I read solutions in the web that I should install it
[16:01] <bobptz> it is a WINE issue I am trying to solve
[16:02] <bobptz> so guys, what do you think?
[16:03] <rustuptwist> ping
[16:04] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: its removed from 12.04 as it was causing stability issues, you'd have to be running a later release to get the lib.
[16:04] <OerHeks> multiarch issue indeed
[16:05] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, you mean later than 12.04?
[16:05] <bobptz> you mean first I need to upgrade ubuntu?
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: yes. the package appears to be available in later releases
[16:05] <bobptz> ok, got it
[16:07] <bobptz> what I was trying to solve is this error:
[16:07] <bobptz> p11-kit: couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:07] <bobptz> anybody can help me with this?
[16:07] <bobptz> This is when running WINE.
[16:07] <bobptz> wine 1.6.1 latest stable
[16:08] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: ppas are not supported. you need to go to the ppa maintainer for help
[16:09] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, ppas?  you mean ask WINE people?
[16:09] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: or the maintainers of the ppa that you installed that version of wine from
[16:10] <joptionpane> can someone help me please? i cannot use wireless network on 13.10...in w7 wireless works fine, but in any linux based system it doesnt
[16:10] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, I was there, no help
[16:10] <bobptz> thank you for the info
[16:10] <Ampelbein> bobptz: You can safely ignore that message.
[16:11] <bobptz> Ampelbein, well I have several messages in the terminal, while I try to install dreamveaver with WINE
[16:11] <bobptz> and the n the installer fails
[16:11] <bobptz> so I decided to address all those messages
[16:11] <rustuptwist> if I want to update the wireless drivers in a laptop is "sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-precise-generic" a generic command to do that via Terminal?
[16:12] <Ampelbein> bobptz: Have you checked http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=183
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> joptionpane: can you pastebin the output of: lspci -knn | grep Network -A2
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: whats the output of: uname -r
[16:12] <joptionpane> ok i'll do it just a sec
[16:13] <nightlingo_> hello!
[16:14] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  3.8.0-35-generic
[16:14] <nightlingo_> I have PC-1 connected via WiFi to the internet and I want it to share the internet to PC-2 which is connected to PC-1 via ethernet. How is this possible? Thanks
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: so using the modules from kernel 3.6 would be a downgrade not an upgrade
[16:14] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  laptops dont want to connect to the net unless they are like sitting on the router
[16:15] <AA___> Hello everyone, i am trying to install th cherokee webserver on ubuntu 14.04. As far as i can tell, the cherokee package in is not in 14.04 yet and at the same time, the cherokee project does not seem to have a ppa for trusty tahr....Can anyone provide some help about getting the cherokee webserver for the saucy release installed on trusty tahr?
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist:  can you pastebin the output of: lspci -knn | grep Network -A2
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> !trust | AA___
[16:15] <bobptz> Ampelbein, well, very remotly to my system
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | sorry AA___
[16:16] <bobptz> seems like WINE is useless for serious staff
[16:16] <bobptz> do you suggest VM or dual boot?
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: if you really want to run stuff properly use an VM
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: or dual boot. ... personally for a single app i'd just use a vm tho
[16:17] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, do I also have to install antivirus in the VM?
[16:17] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  the laptop in question is not connected to net right now and someone just put a plate of good looking food in front of me. Give me a bit, pls
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: depends on the windows version. win for instance comes with AV built in
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: win 8*
[16:18] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO  I think win8 is overkill
[16:18] <bobptz> I'd go with win7
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: can you give me the vendor id and device id for the adapter. is the info in the [XXXX:YYYY] when running lspci -nn
[16:18] <bobptz> anyway, seems I DO need antivirus or the VM will get infected
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: depends on what you do and how well you trust yourself or your network. Personally I go without it for a VM, but thats what works for me, not something i'd suggest to everyone
[16:20] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  1814:5390 This?
[16:21] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, I like to use deepfreeze or ShadowDefender to lock my windows machines.  Can I use the same in a VM?
[16:21] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: don't see why not
[16:22] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, well these utils play with master boot records etc.  They may mess things up.
[16:22] <bobptz> ...I think
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: A VM is isolated. Won't mess things up
[16:22] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, ok good to know
[16:23] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, are there amy flavors of VM or just one, where I just choose the windows version?
[16:23] <bobptz> ..many...
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: can you rephrase the question
[16:24] <sunny_> hi all
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: i'm seeing bug reports https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1221876 seems to be issues with later kernels
[16:24] <abstract> im abstract
[16:24] <sunny_> m new to ubuntu
[16:24] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, is there only one way to create a VM?
[16:25] <yeats> !virtualization | bobptz
[16:25] <sunny_> quit
[16:25] <yeats> bobptz: if you're running a windows guest, I would probably go with virtualbox
[16:25] <joptionpane> hey i'm back...the output for lspci -knn | grep Network -A2
[16:25] <joptionpane> is:
[16:25] <joptionpane> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter [10ec:8176] (rev 01)
[16:25] <joptionpane> 	Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:8175]
[16:25] <joptionpane> 	Kernel driver in use: rtl8192ce
[16:25] <FloodBot1> joptionpane: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:26] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  kernel driver in use: rt2800pci
[16:26] <puca> hello. my ambition is to run initialization scripts so that tcsh starts up with some custom environment variables already initialized.
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: the bug appears to be unresolved atm. Not seeing any suggestions for a fix.
[16:27] <puca> I want those variables to be the same in Bash. so far I have found editing bashrc does this for Bash.
[16:27] <puca> I have found no way to do the same for tcsh.
[16:27] <TheAtariNerd> I need help booting into Ubuntu.
[16:28] <puca> is there a way to make calls to tcsh inherit bash variables?
[16:29] <TheAtariNerd> can anyone help me with boo thing into Ubuntu on iMac?
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> TheAtariNerd  what happesn whe you try?
[16:29] <TheAtariNerd> *booting
[16:29] <abstract> puca, could you not create your own .tcshrc and place the info in there?
[16:29] <TheAtariNerd> it never gives me an option
[16:29] <puca> I think the problem is that my call on tcsh uses the option -ef, which means it doesn't load any startup files.
[16:30] <TheAtariNerd> I never get an OS menue
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> TheAtariNerd  what have you tried and what goes wrong... what ubuntu version etc
[16:30] <puca> abstract: yes, but as I mention above the call to tcsh doesn't load any startup files.
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> joptionpane: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[16:31] <pippero> ciao
[16:31] <joptionpane> ok
[16:31] <joptionpane> BRB
[16:31] <TheAtariNerd> Ubuntu 13.10 on External HD. I try to manually select my boot drive but it seems it never gives me the option to boot into Ubuntu
[16:34] <TheAtariNerd> need anymore info?
[16:35] <mikubuntu> is ubuntustudio based on xubuntu or ubuntu -- should i do the tweaks on this page? https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/first#TOC-Install-full-multimedia-support
[16:35] <wessel> How can I map caps as additional ctrl? I am unable to find this option in Dutch Unity Ubuntu 13
[16:35] <wessel> I am in keyboard settings "toestenbord instellingen"
[16:36] <mikubuntu> and also, lubuntu -- should i do the tweaks for ubuntu or xubuntu?
[16:36] <bobptz> yeats, seems VirtualBox is easier and better for me.  Will install win7 inside.  I am dissapointed with wine, spent 2 days with 0 results.  Thank you
[16:36] <TheAtariNerd> does anyone have experience with Ubuntu on iMacs?
[16:37] <mikubuntu> i have a pretty low mem laptop that i can't get to play a video more than about a minute 20 before it hangs up
[16:38] <wessel> #ubuntu-nl
[16:38] <lawr> Possible to change mirror halfway through downloading somethign?
[16:38] <lawr> one server is running shit slow
[16:38] <lawr> (using apt-get ofc)
[16:39] <bilegt> Do you know any way to install Kali tools on Saucy?
[16:39] <klaus_> ciao a tutti
[16:39] <TheAtariNerd> MonkeyDust Can you help?
[16:40] <puca> is there any way that I can launch tcsh using the -ef option and then  have tcsh inherit variables from the bash session I use to launch tcsh?
[16:40] <hitsujiTMO> TheAtariNerd: it could help if you say what the actual problem is
[16:41] <one> Hi peopls
[16:41] <Pcbrewer> Hi All
[16:45] <joptionpane> the output for cat /etc/issue is ubuntu 13.10 /n /l ...i`m running the live dvd
[16:46] <Antar> Hi people
[16:47] <Antar> my new (Quantal Quetzal) can't find my hp 6530b wireless driver
[16:47] <hitsujiTMO> joptionpane: not seeing anything positive for your adapter. only thing you can try and do is install the proprietary driver from the website
[16:48] <Antar> what can i do
[16:49] <Antar> please answer me
[16:49] <Nikz> Does anybody here use TOR?
[16:49] <Nikz> I have a rather lengthy question.
[16:49] <joptionpane> i use tor
[16:49] <Nikz> Do you mind if I query you?
[16:50] <joptionpane> i`ll try to find the proprietary driver
[16:50] <Antar> my new (Quantal Quetzal) can't find my hp 6530b wireless driver ?
[16:51] <thault> is there dedicated Ubuntu Server edition channel?
[16:51] <Antar> please help
[16:52] <joptionpane> i`ll try to run the 12.10
[16:52] <joptionpane> ty
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> thault: #ubuntu-server
[16:52] <Antar> please help
[16:52] <thault> ah, thanks hitsujiTMO
[16:53] <thault> join #ubuntu-server
[16:53] <Antar> heeeeeeeeeeeeey
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> Antar: can you pastein the output of: lspci -knn | grep Network -A2             and: uname -r
[16:53] <Antar> hitsujiTMO: Sure
[16:55] <Antar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6862408/
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> !bcm | Antar
[16:57] <Psyko000> Can anyone give me a hand? I've been looking for an audio player similar to foobar2000, but I can't find anything that offers the same or similar file operations.
[16:57] <Antar> hitsujiTMO: bash: !bcm: event not found
[16:58] <Antar> hitsujiTMO: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer what do you think ?
[16:58] <hitsujiTMO> Antar: no. !bcm is a trigger for the bot. read the link. I'd try the b43
[16:59] <Antar> hitsujiTMO: hh sorry i thought it a command
[16:59] <Antar> hitsujiTMO: so LPPHY
[17:00] <belgianguy> the new propietary AMD driver is available, works well with 3.13
[17:00] <Antar> hitsujiTMO:
[17:01] <belgianguy> and while it's called 14.1 beta, it works with 13.10
[17:01] <hitsujiTMO> Antar: with the bcm its a case of try until you find one that works, so maybe start with that package alright
[17:02] <Antar> ok
[17:07] <jgcampbell300> I have a question about ubuntu and wine ... If i run a online game to desktop 1 then start another instance on desktop 2 is there a way to get the second desktop to use less video memory ... or none ?
[17:08] <mariuszdo> greetings everyone ... i'm now using the computer i mentioned before ...
[17:08] <mariuszdo> live-cd took a while to load but i can use internet as you can see ... i cannot access this notebook's internal hdd though ... any ideas?
[17:09] <puca> does gnome-terminal run .baschrc?
[17:09] <hitsujiTMO> puca: no. but .bashrc does get run tho
[17:09] <mariuszdo> ikonia: are you still here?
[17:09] <puca> hitsujiTMO: when?
[17:10] <mariuszdo> or you bekks ?
[17:10] <hitsujiTMO> puca: when you open the terminal. it's sourced by ~/.profile
[17:10] <puca> ok, so every time I open a terminal.
[17:11] <hitsujiTMO> puca: yes
[17:11] <puca> good. thanks!
[17:17] <mariuszdo> you see ... when i tried to boot windows normally i got an error message saying "boot device not found" ...
[17:18] <mariuszdo> when i try to install ubuntu the check tells me that there's enough space left but still ... i can't find the hdd ... i don't think it's mounted, etc
[17:20] <HALanon9000> i'm running ubuntu 14.04 and unity seems to have broke after restart. i haven't installed any updates that needed a restart, and haven't turned my laptop off since updating. i typed "unity" in terminal and it said it wasnt installed. so i installed it, than started it, and still no desktop
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | HALanon9000
[17:21] <ktace> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[17:21] <ktace> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[17:21] <FloodBot1> ktace: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <Shura> Hi, since last updates, my NFS shares are not auto mounted at boot. I have to "sudo mount -a" every time.
[17:21] <Shura> Is there a way to fix nfs mount or launch "sudo mount -a" after the boot (without entering the password) ?
[17:21] <cnz> how do I check to see what displays my monitors are on
[17:25] <hitsujiTMO> Shura: mounting happens before the network is up. you should have mount -a called after the network comes up
[17:26] <at_> i can't take nick at
[17:26] <at_> why?
[17:27] <Shura> I guess, yes, but it used to work fine. Now it didn't. I don't know what has changed
[17:27] <Shura> doesn't$
[17:30] <cnz> anyone here that can give me some help with loading x
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> !details | cnz
[17:33] <SNakamoto> Anyone know if php5.5 isnt supported for ubuntu 10.10? Or if it is where can I get it?
[17:33] <hitsujiTMO> 10.10 isn't even supported
[17:34] <SNakamoto> I know :( But thats what my host installed on my VPS
[17:34] <SNakamoto> And rather then starting over now that I've got everything setup
[17:35] <SNakamoto> I would rather just get php5.5 so I have the password hashing class
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> SNakamoto: change host. because you can't get ANY software for it. You have no repos, and there are no PPAs
[17:35] <SNakamoto> But I already got everything I need but php5.5, Theres no way?
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> SNakamoto: do they not have a supported version of ubuntu?
[17:36] <joptionpane> the wireless is not working in any gnu/linux based system...but works fine in w7 and w8..is the hardware the problem?
[17:36] <hitsujiTMO> SNakamoto: 10.10 is 2 years out of support so noone is maintaining PPAs for it
[17:36] <SNakamoto> I would assume if they did they would have installed it lol, I was given a few options and I said ubuntu and they gave me a VPS with 10.10 >.>
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> joptionpane: its software issue not hardware
[17:37] <joptionpane> it was working some time ago
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> SNakamoto: if thats what they gave you then i'd run from them as quickly as possilbe
[17:38] <ubululu> hello, i'm on a livecd ubuntu 13.10 that i booted from grub. works great, but i was reading that you can give it persistence. can only find guides on how to do that with a usb drive, so i'm looking for info to do it with this iso from grub. is this at all possible?
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> !persistence | ubululu
[17:38] <SNakamoto> Would it be possible to compile it myself
[17:38] <SNakamoto> ?
[17:39] <ubululu> hitsujiTMO, yes thank you. that is the page i read earlier, i made a casper-rw but don't know what to do with when i start ubuntu
[17:39] <Guest550> anyknow know where i can install the jsk for netbeans
[17:39] <Guest550> jdk
[17:39] <Guest550> *
[17:40] <bekks> !java | Guest550
[17:40] <hitsujiTMO> SNakamoto: possibly, possibly not. It may rely on dependencies that don't exist in 10.10 and its not a trivial thing to compile. Honestly tho, running 10.10 puts your server at severe risk as its been 2 years since the last recieved any security updates and doesn't even have a repo any more
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest550: webupd8 has a java ppa
[17:41] <rollitup> hey guys I have a strange issue, I am unable to access these two particular sites from this machine that has Ubuntu 12.04 , the sites are github.com and al-jazeera
[17:41] <hitsujiTMO> ubululu: are you using it with a usb?
[17:41] <rollitup> i tried accessing them through both firefox and chrome
[17:42] <rollitup> one thing to note is that I am able to access these sites on my notebook which has Manjaro
[17:42] <ubululu> no, from a hdd, i've added it to the root dir and used the --persistent flag in grub
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Rollitup: can you ping the name ok?
[17:42] <ubululu> hitsujiTMO, sorry forgot to tag ^
[17:43] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: no when i ping it gives me desitnation host unreachable
[17:43] <rollitup> its not that i have the ubuntu firewall
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Rollitup: try changing your DNS server.
[17:43] <ubululu> hitsujiTMO, do you know if that is possible to use persistence with a iso file you boot from grub? or a good guide would be welcome, google gives a load of hits but i don't quite get all that
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Rollitup: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Rollitup: then try again. Or does the name get resolved to an IP and it's the actual ping failing?
[17:45] <rollitup> i am trying
[17:46] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: it does not work in firefox i get "Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at github.com." and ping it says destination host not reachable
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> ubululu: any persistence would be written to the hdd and would have some restrictions on how it works. Its far easier to use persistence with a usb tho
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Rollitup: what IP do you get with: nslookup github.com
[17:47] <ubululu> hitsujiTMO, i thought so, thanks .. just a crazy idea
[17:47] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: 192.30.252.130
[17:48] <cnz> anyone know how to use pastebinit?
[17:49] <HALanon9000> hey guys, no ones helping me on ubuntu+1. could i get some help here with 14.04? theres not a lot different from 13.10, in fact it says that it is 13.10
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Rollithub: 192.168.252.129 here. Does that IP reply for you?
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> cnz: pastebinit /path/to/file          or           command | pastebinit
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Cnz: it accepts text streams and file names
[17:50] <BentFranklin> A partition was throwing disk full at only 84% (out of 5 GB).  Shouldn;t that be 95%?  How to you access/set that parameter?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> HALanon9000: Trusty is offtopic here
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> HALanon9000: 14.04 issues are strictly covered in #ubuntu+1
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> BentFranklin: if you run: df -i ,do you see any at 100% use there?
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> BentFranklin: whats the output of: df -i
[17:50] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: I also checked the hosts file to see if these two sites are blocked
[17:50] <HALanon9000> ubuntu+1 has over 100 people but none are active. i guess i'll have to wait a while.
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: does the IP i gave ping
[17:51] <cnz> got it guys thanks
[17:51] <cnz> 'http://paste.debian.net/79801/
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> HALanon9000: yes. I suggest you report a bug for your issue.
[17:51] <hitsujiTMO> cnz: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[17:51] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: no it says destination host unreachable
[17:52] <BentFranklin> I already repartitioned.  But / (including /boot) was 84% and refusing to upgrade linux image.  I fixed allt hat, just curious why it failed at 84%.
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: have you tried setting a manual route?
[17:52] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: I use Bleachbit regularly , I am not aware on how to set a manual route
[17:52] <cnz> hitsujiTMO: huh?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> BentFranklin: if you run: df -i | grep 100 ,do you see any output?
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> cnz: can you tell me the output of the command: cat /etc/issue
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Cnz: its a terminal command, run it and paste the output here
[17:53] <BentFranklin> Action Parsnip:  No, because I repartitioned already.
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> BentFranklin: try: sudo apt-get clean
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: tried a reboot, you may have removed something using bleachbit.
[17:54] <cnz> Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l
[17:54] <BentFranklin> Action Parsnip: So, I need to have enough bytes AND enough inodes!
[17:54] <cnz> oh I thought /etc/issue was an example m y bad
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> BentFranklin: yes
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> cnz: this is ubuntu support, for debian support go to #debian
[17:55] <BentFranklin> Action Parsnip: hitsuji:  Thanks
[17:55] <cnz> hitsujiTMO: I know i posted link in wrong channel
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Cnz: the command is "cat /etc/issue" without the quotes
[17:55] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: this has been happening since past 2-3 months, i use bleachbit after each session before shutting down the computer
[17:56] <cnz> hitsujiTMO: it's also almost impossible to find support anywhere these days
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: thats quite excessive
[17:56] <worc> do the ubuntuforums really not accept mailinator accounts? i dont need any more GD spam...
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> worc: ubuntuforums dont spam
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> Word:  id ask in #ubuntuforums
[17:57] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: I do it for the sake of privacy
[17:57] <rollitup> ;P
[17:57] <jhutchins> worc: If you manage your mailserver correctly you don't need to worry about spam.
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: if you put your browser cache in tempfs it will clear at reboot
[17:57] <rollitup> but yeah only clean browser related stuff
[17:57] <worc> alright alright. mostly i just wanted to see a thread that was linked in a troubleshooting post
[17:57] <rollitup> not the system
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: web browsers can clean their own cachw, you dont need bleachbot
[17:58] <ubululu> mainly wanted to test a grub iso to see if my nvidia would work for 13.10 .. i thought i could install the drivers but i need persistence to be able to reboot and test the card. the grub entree: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6862696/ and i have casper-rw. if anyone knows a guide on how to proceed, would be awesome, thank you
[17:58] <worc> i suspect there's a typo or something i'm missing reading the quote that would get cleared up if i could see the original post
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: ctrl+shift+del and clear the cache.....why are you using bleachbit?
[17:58] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: but what about the tracking and surveillance stuff that gets planted on our pc
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> rollitup: use incognito sessions/privacy sessions
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: what surveillance stuff?
[17:59] <rollitup> the NSA spying
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: there isnt any in Ubuntu
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: you need to chillout dude.
[18:01] <rollitup> ok ActionParsnip
[18:01] <milamber> ubululu: you can do a full install to usb
[18:01] <rollitup> ok again I use bleachbit even on Manjaro and the sites work there
[18:01] <rollitup> strange isn't that
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: manjaro is completely different to ubuntu, so no not very strange
[18:02] <ubululu> milamber, yes i know, done it a few times but i keep loosing those things. thx tho for replying
[18:02] <Mongo44> Can I run Netflix with 12.04?
[18:02] <rollitup> how can we narrow down the cause of this issue ?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: there isba hacky PPA. Its far from perfect but may work
[18:03] <hitsujiTMO> Mongo44: pipelight seems to get the most positive results
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: reboot and try the sites. If it works then whatever nonesense you are doing in bleachbit is probably causing the issue
[18:03] <Mongo44> Ok, I would like that repository and the one for ClamAV.
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: what does clamav have to do with netflix?
[18:04] <rollitup> ok i'll reboot the machine now
[18:04] <hitsujiTMO> Mongo44: https://launchpad.net/~pipelight/+archive/stable
[18:04] <milamber> ubululu: it is something different than persistence, i have also done it and it keeps all changes
[18:04] <Mongo44> ActionParsnip, Can you pastebinit so I can VI it?
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/ppa-for-netflix-desktop-app.html
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: again, what does clamav have to do with netflix?
[18:06] <ubululu> milamber, well that explains why googling doesn't seem to get me further than creating the casper-rw and adding the --persistent flag, the iso boot fine, using it now. in what way is it different?
[18:06] <Mongo44> I don't want to send a windows virus in an email.
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Oh i see
[18:07] <Mongo44> I know with my Debian VM I had to edit the sources list. I don't have to use VI here?
[18:08] <milamber> ubululu: you basically need 2 thumb drives, or a live cd and a thumb drive. run one and choose the other as the installation destination
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: are you wanting netflix in debian?
[18:09] <milamber> ubululu: the only tricky part is making sure the right media is selected when installing the boot sector
[18:09] <milamber> ubululu: if that goes wrong you have problems
[18:09] <Mongo44> I guess I can add it to my host OS first.
[18:09] <ubululu> milamber, so i can't use the iso i booted from grub?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: younarent making any sense
[18:10] <milamber> ubululu: what do you mean "booted from grub"?
[18:10] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: I rebooted, tried accessing again but still the same problem
[18:10] <Mongo44> Of course I am my main OS is 12.04 LTS.
[18:11] <milamber> ubululu: when you load an instance of ubuntu from a thumb drive, you have the option of installing. you need to have a blank thumb drive available to install to
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: so what does this have to do with a debian vm?
[18:11] <ubululu> milamber, i have 2 partitions for ubuntu OS, one is running the now deceased 13.04 and i added a grub entree to boot the 13.10 iso from that
[18:12] <tdm4> anyone know why python-software-properties no longer provides 'add-apt-repository' in saucy? (amd64)
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: why mention it earlier? It makes no sense. Doesn't it?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> !find add-apt-repository saucy
[18:12] <ubululu> milamber, this is the grub entree for it, that works like a charm, i like it better than thumbdrives (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6862696/)
[18:12] <tdm4> gah.. it changed
[18:12] <tdm4> thanks
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Tdm4 yes. Youbcan find that stuf out on packages.ubuntu.com too....
[18:13] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: do you think it would be a good idea to boot into ubuntu using a live usb stick and check if i am able to access the site ?
[18:13] <Mongo44> I was just remembering what I had to do to add the repositories needed to run video content with Iceweasel.
[18:13] <tdm4> apt-cache search didn't show anything and I couldn't find it on packages.ubuntu.com for some reason
[18:13] <bird_> hello?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: yes as it will not be affected by your activiries
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Hi bird_
[18:13] <milamber> ubululu: that should work
[18:14] <bird_> Im new to ubuntu and linux and having trouble adding new users
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: but its for a different distribution and isnt of any value to your issue
[18:14] <ubululu> milamber, indeed, i am on the booted iso right now
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> !manual | bird_ this is a good primer for the gui
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> bird_: are you adding at cli or gui?
[18:14] <milamber> ubululu: ok, on the desktop of the booted iso there should be an icon for installing ubuntu
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Bird_: sudo adduser -c "full name" username; sudo passwd username
[18:15] <ubululu> milamber, i appreciate your help :) bit of a crazy plan i realise that
[18:15] <ubululu> milamber, yes i have that
[18:15] <jrib> ActionParsnip: adduser should prompt for password, right/
[18:15] <Mongo44> What is the difference between the aptitude and apt-get commands?
[18:15] <milamber> ubululu: installing the full os on a thumb drive isn't that crazy, just not many people do it (for several valid reasons)
[18:15] <jrib> Mongo44: they are different programs, apt-get is the standard one to use, use that
[18:15] <bird_> yes jrib
[18:15] <ffff> does anybody here have any experience deploying nodejs apps?
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Jrib: cant remember so covered the base :-)
[18:15] <milamber> ubululu: then you can use the install wizard to do a full install to a thumb drive
[18:16] <Guest13802> how do i get kernel number of a program from terminal?
[18:16] <bird_> but when i type the newusers name it returns my name for some reason and says user already exist
[18:16] <jrib> Guest13802: what do you mean?  You mean the PID?
[18:16] <daftykins> Guest13802: your kernel *version* ?
[18:16] <Guest13802> yes
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> jrib: yes it does unless you use --disabled-password
[18:16] <Grizzlee> hi, is there a program tv widget for lubuntu?
[18:17] <Guest13802> lsb something...
[18:17] <milamber> Grizzlee: what do you mean a tv widget?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Guest13802: kernel version, or version of an application? Applications don't have 'kernel versions'
[18:17] <ubululu> milamber, that's the thing, i want to just check out a few things like video card mainly, i had trouble with it in raring .. so i thought i coud install the drivers to see if it is better with 13.10 from the iso before i commit to hdd
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> bird_: whats the exact command you are using?
[18:17] <Grizzlee> program tv widget
[18:17] <Mongo44> Aptitude update is easier than sudo apt-get update, though.
[18:17] <daftykins> Guest13802: lsb-release are you thinking of? or uname -r
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest13802: lsb_release -a ,shows the ubuntu release and nothing about the kernel version nor anythong about any application
[18:18] <bird_> sudo adduser teri
[18:18] <bekks> Mongo44: aptitude has known issues on multilib system.
[18:18] <Guest13802> sudo cp ./<kernel version>/wacom.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/tablet
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: how is it easier?
[18:18] <Guest13802> for that command
[18:18] <milamber> ubululu: right, but if you want to be able to enable the drivers and restart while in a completely test environment, a full install to usb is (in my opinion) the easiest way. just running the livecd/iso will not allow you to do that
[18:18] <Mongo44> Oh it just feels easier.
[18:18] <Guest13802> how do I get the kernel version number from the terminal?
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> bird_: cat /etc/passwd | grep teri
[18:19] <jrib> Guest13802: uname -a
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: how? You run the command and type ypur password for both then sit and watch. How is one easier in any way at all?
[18:19] <ubululu> milamber, i guess i'll go for that, thank you
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: both involve the exact same input and you sit and watch the packages update
[18:19] <bird_> that didnt do anything
[18:20] <milamber> Grizzlee: when asked to explain something, repeating is not the recommended answer. what do you mean a program tv widget? something to watch tv on your computer? to stream media? to program tvs? what do you mean?
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: so exactly how is one easier than the other?
[18:20] <Mongo44> I guess you stumped me.
[18:20] <Guest13802> hello? does anyone know how to get the kernel version number? lsb something???
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: yes because I know what I'm talking about
[18:20] <Guest13802> uname -a is for the whole computer I want it for a driver
[18:20] <bekks> Guest13802: uname -r
[18:21] <bekks> Guest13802: Same as yesterday.
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> bird_: can you pastebin the full output of: sudo adduser teri
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest13802: lsb_release -a ,shows the ubuntu version. uname -a will show the full kernel details.
[18:21] <bird_> sure
[18:21] <milamber> Guest13802: uname -r
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest13802: lsb_release will never show kernel versions
[18:21] <Grizzlee> yes to show tv programm quickly on my computer^
[18:21] <Guest13802> k thanks
[18:22] <Grizzlee> ^^
[18:22] <Grizzlee> do u now it?
[18:22] <milamber> Grizzlee: myth?
[18:22] <milamber> !mythbuntu | Grizzlee
[18:22] <Mongo44> I still want ClamAV but I have to wait for netflix-destop to finish installing.
[18:23] <Grizzlee> ok thx i see that
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue ,please
[18:23] <KoreanZombie> Hey all, I've been trying to install different versions of Ubuntu/XUbuntu from a USB to another USB for 3 days now and I keep failing, I've tried google a lot and it has helped in most cases but I'm now kinda stuck without being able to find help. Can any of you guys help me out?
[18:23] <ikonia> netflix on ubuntu.....
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> KoreanZombie  what goes wrong
[18:24] <Mongo44> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Ikonia: yeah PPA with a hacked Wine. Far from perfect
[18:25] <bird_> http://pastebin.com/6QJ6DqKh
[18:25] <ikonia> what a total waste of time
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Ikonia: yeah. People seem to like installing it.
[18:26] <ikonia> if you're paying for a service running a shoddy work around seems stupid
[18:26] <ikonia> rather than using the supported options
[18:26] <KoreanZombie> monkeydust alright, so I create an installation USB (with ISO file and that stuff via pendrive software) install it as normal, choose "Something else" and creates a ETX4 (or whatever it's called) for the 14GB of the other flash drive mounted to "/" and a swap of 1GB swap - I install it all and it completes.
[18:26] <milamber> KoreanZombie: what is the issue?
[18:26] <hitsujiTMO> bird_: you must put in the password for your (jared) account, not the new account
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Bird_: type your user pasword. You will not get any feedback
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> bird_: the sudo command allows you to gain super user priviledges, but it must confirm first that you are indeed you. this is whats asking for the password
[18:27] <mezo_> If I burn ISO to CD, with Brasero disc burner, will it be bootable? There is no option to check anything
[18:27] <KoreanZombie> monkeydust now when I reboot, if I don't change BIOS it obviously boots to the ISO usb and wants to install again, so I change in BIOS to the 16GB USB with the OS on it but its just stuck on a black screen with a "_" blinking, I've googled it and people say I should hit shift and get into grub
[18:27] <daftykins> KoreanZombie: are you sure you don't want to just create a persistent live USB instead of install manually to it? you really don't want a swap partition on a flash drive either
[18:27] <KoreanZombie> monkeydust but Grub does not appear, only when I boot on the ISO file usb
[18:27] <dominiquenf> hello
[18:28] <bird_> doh i feel dumb sorry
[18:28] <hitsujiTMO> mezo_: if its a bootable iso then yes
[18:28] <ImBob> i just installed 12.04 and it will not give me graphics when i use live cd i do a nomodset and it works how do i do a nomodset for a full install?
[18:28] <KoreanZombie> hmm, not sure what that means exactly, I'm setting up a "headless" scrypt mining PC (if u know what that is)
[18:29] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | imbob
[18:29] <KoreanZombie> monkeydust I honestly don't care how it's installed as long as it works and I can update drivers and get the programs necesarruy
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Imbob: hold shift at boot
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | KoreanZombie try this
[18:30] <KoreanZombie> yea I saw that on google, but I can't acces the grub thing when booting to the USB with the OS on it
[18:30] <ImBob> ok thanks let me go look :)
[18:30] <KoreanZombie> only when booting the installation USB
[18:30] <manishjain> hello, I am getting a problem when i am trying to update the packages. I am giving the error message in the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/6862893/ . please help.
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: use either left shift or esc to get up grub just after selecting the device to boot
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> manishjain: disable the CD as a package source in /etc/apt/sources.list or Software Centre
[18:32] <Mongo44> Yeah netflix-desktop ain't working.
[18:32] <Guest13802> How do I get the kernel number for this? sudo cp ./<kernel version>/wacom.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/tablet
[18:32] <KoreanZombie> nothing happens hitsuji, I can try again but I've tried so many times - I should just reboot to the USB with the OS installed and spam ESC/left shift from it starts?
[18:32] <bekks> Guest13802: uname -r
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: thats the only solution for netflix in Linux
[18:32] <bekks> Guest13802: Same as yesterday.
[18:32] <Mongo44> I don't even know the path to netflix-desktop.
[18:33] <bekks> Guest13802: If you want to know whats the name of "<kernel version>", then run: "ls -lha ."
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: you dont need to. If you log off then you can log in to the netflix desktop
[18:33] <bekks> Guest13802: "<kernel version>" refers to a directory in your current directory.
[18:33] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO I should just boot to the USB I installed it on and spam left shift or ESC, right?
[18:33] <Mongo44> Log off?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: just like you don't know where ubuntu-desktop.desktop is, yet you use it
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: you have about 1 second after the bios/uefi finishes to get into grub. so spam from then
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: if you read above when I typed it first. Yes, log off
[18:34] <KoreanZombie> kk, will try again
[18:34] <Mongo44> I just rebooted. I want to find the location in My folder.
[18:34] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO nope, goes instantly to the black screen with the blinking "_"
[18:34] <manishjain> ActionParsnip: Thanks. Then i can still able to download the updates from ubuntu main server , right ?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: log in to the netflix session and not the one you usually log into
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: that sounds like grub isn't installed then
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> manishjain: yes, you kust removed the CD wjich you dont need as you have the web
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: did you install netflix in the VM?
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: try running boot-repair from the live cd
[18:36] <Mongo44> No this is all about 12.04 LTS not Wheezy.
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: cool, just checking.
[18:36] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO I don't have a live cd, I have a USB with the ISO file/image made with pendrivelinux
[18:36] <Guest13802> does this look right?     sudo cp ./3.11.0-15-generic/wacom.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/tablet
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> Mongo44 try this instead: https://launchpad.net/~pipelight/+archive/stable
[18:36] <bekks> Guest13802: If the file ./3.11.0-15-generic/wacom.ko exists, yes.
[18:37] <Guest13802> k thanks bekks
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: thats the livecd. is that whats not booting?
[18:37] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO when I boot to that I can only choose "try ubuntu" "install" or "check for errors" (not exactly the way it reads, but pretty much)
[18:37] <manishjain> ActionParsnip : ok. One thing more. If i want to install ubuntu along with windows then what to do ? As i have all the physical/logical partitions in my Harddisk. No Primary partition. ?
[18:37] <milamber> KoreanZombie: http://fernhilllinuxproject.com/guidesandhowtos/installubuntutousbdrive.html
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> manishjain: you can have all logical partitions if you want
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: boot that and use try ubuntu. install boot-repair and use that to repair the broken grub installtion
[18:38] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO no that boots fine, and I've done the entire installation, it's just after installing and rebooting to the USB drive with the newly installed OS I can't get anywhere (including to GRUB)
[18:38] <manishjain> ActionParnship :How ?
[18:38] <milamber> KoreanZombie: i have successfully used that tutorial dozens of times
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> manishjain: ubuntu will need 2 partitions
[18:38] <KoreanZombie> milamber: I've followed that guide, it still happens
[18:38] <manishjain> I dont want to format my harddisk.
[18:38] <PatBateman> hi,
[18:38] <ffff> so do i need upstart to use monit? or are they meant to be used mutually exclusive?
[18:38] <PatBateman> is Gnom3 faster than Unity?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> manishjain: install windows to a portion of the space then install ubuntu to the free space
[18:38] <jhutchins> manishjain: You don't have to format the whole disk, just make room for Linux and format that space.
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> PatBateman: unity runs ontop of gnome3
[18:39] <KoreanZombie> milamber: everything is fine for that entire guide, it's only AFTER doing it all and rebooting that I can't get anywhere
[18:39] <PatBateman> ah
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> PatBateman: unity doesnt replace gnome. Unity isnt a DE.
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: yes, boot that and use try ubuntu. install boot-repair and use that to repair the broken grub installation. It will repair the install of the  newly installed OS
[18:39] <KoreanZombie> hitsujimoTMO: alrighty, thanks a lot for helping will do it right now
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> !boot-repair | KoreanZombie
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> PatBateman: unity is nothing more than a plugin for compiz, like wobbly windows
[18:39] <joptionpane> it shows the networks and connects to my AP but doesn't open anything...the "nm-tool" command shows "Connected" in the wlan0...the adapter is rtl8188ce but the module/driver loaded is rtl8192ce...should i try to load a different one?
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> !bootrepair | KoreanZombie
[18:39] <PatBateman> ActionParsnip: any advice to speed up gui ?
[18:40] <milamber> KoreanZombie: are you sure you are changing where the bootloader is being installed?
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: info on boot repair here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> PatBateman: install gnome-shell and ditch compiz. Or install a lighter DE like LXDE or XFCE
[18:40] <milamber> KoreanZombie: the default is not correct
[18:40] <ezrhino> o. Ubuntu still checks for updtes when i boot, even though i disabled from startup. How can i fix?
[18:40] <PatBateman> nice, thanks
[18:40] <milamber> KoreanZombie: which may be why you are having trouble with boot loaders
[18:41] <KoreanZombie> milamber: no because it was already set on the USB where the OS needed to be
[18:41] <manishjain> ActionParsnip: I have done that. but when i need to select the partition where i have to install the ubuntu then only the windows partition i am able to see. Not for the space that i have allocated for the linux. It comines with windows partion.
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> milamber: from what he described he indeed installed it to the wrong location
[18:41] <KoreanZombie> milamber are u sure it's always like that?
[18:41] <manishjain> and give me only two ntfs partition.
[18:41] <milamber> KoreanZombie: yes, the default isn't correct
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> manishjain: resize your NTFS in Windows to make free space
[18:42] <KoreanZombie> milamber: I see, the default was set to the overall name of the USB drive I was installing to while the other option was the m"main partition"
[18:42] <milamber> KoreanZombie: if you are using 2 usb drives make sure the correct one is selected
[18:42] <KoreanZombie> I will reinstall it and try with the second option, man I'm hoping this is the reason!
[18:43] <KoreanZombie> I am installing from one to another, the one I was installing from was not even listed tho
[18:43] <PatBateman> can I choose xfce on install, or I have to install later and uninstall unity?
[18:43] <PatBateman> dont remember
[18:43] <milamber> KoreanZombie: okay, also from the terminal you can use the command df   to see what is mounted where
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> !xubuntu | PatBateman
[18:44] <manishjain> ActionParsnio: Actually I have gave some free space for linux. but i am not able to see that space at the time of installation . What to do ?
[18:44] <milamber> PatBateman: if you xfce as the default, download xubuntu
[18:44] <KoreanZombie> milamber: alright so I don't have to take out the drive I'm installing on and format it on my second PC, it will overwrite it right?
[18:44] <PatBateman> thanks
[18:45] <milamber> KoreanZombie: through the installation wizard you should be able to do that, yes
[18:45] <KoreanZombie> milamber ok thanks a lot, I'm starting as we speak
[18:46] <Mongo44> hitsujiTMO, I tried that still no dice.
[18:46] <PatBateman> milamber: and I can set up my lamp dev environment to the same as orig. ubuntu?
[18:46] <KoreanZombie> and I shouldn't create a swap when installing to a 16GB USB? just one "ext4" partition mounted to "/" ?
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> Mongo44: if neither work then you're out of look, unless you want to run it in VM
[18:46] <alazyworkaholic> Can a user of a local machine take control of a remote terminal session started through ssh?
[18:46] <manishjain> ActionParsnip: Actually I have gave some free space for linux. but i am not able to see that space at the time of installation . What to do ?
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> Mongo44: a windows vm that is
[18:47] <KoreanZombie> milamber do u know that?
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> manishjain: can you boot the live cd and pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[18:47] <TJ-> manishjain: Is that because the disk already has *four* primary partitions? I've seen this with Windows OEM pre-installs alot recently
[18:47] <milamber> KoreanZombie: swap is optional
[18:48] <milamber> KoreanZombie: you can take it or leave it, it is just important that you use an ext3/4 file system
[18:48] <KoreanZombie> it recommends it when trying to go forward but a guy just said in chat that I shouldnt have it when installing on a USB
[18:49] <manishjain> TJ- No. Only Three partiton. one for windows os, one for linux and other for documents.
[18:49] <KoreanZombie> milamber: alright, so ONE "ext4" partition mounted to "/" should be enough?
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> manishjain: can you boot the ubuntu live cd and pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[18:49] <milamber> KoreanZombie: yes
[18:50] <PatBateman> which one DE is the most mature and suggested to use?
[18:50] <KoreanZombie> milamber awesome, I formatted it and made it just one, chose the other option for boot loader and I'm installing now!
[18:50] <Mongo44> I wish I had asked you all before getting a Netflix free trial.
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> PatBateman: whichever suits your workflow the best
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> KoreanZombie  separate /home is easier to upgrade or reinstall ubuntu
[18:51] <Ozera> Can anyone tell me how to add a private key in ubuntu 12.04?
[18:51] <manishjain> hitsujiTMO : Listen. I am not able to select the partition where i have to install linux although i have allocated the space. This is my problem.
[18:51] <KoreanZombie> milamber: I just have one for now, but all I care about is getting up and running with new drivers and such..
[18:52] <TJ-> manishjain: So, provide the results of the command that hitsujiTMO gave you, so we can figure it out
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> manishjain: don't allocate the space. leave the installer do that
[18:52] <KoreanZombie> milamber: now when the installation is done and I hit reboot, should I then go into BIOS immidiately and change it to boot to the new USB I installed OS on or should it do this automaticly?
[18:52] <zykotick9> TJ-: i'd guess your 4 primary is correct ;)
[18:52] <bekks> !info alsa-base > bekks
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[18:54] <manishjain> hitsujitTMO : the installer does not recongnise it . It gives two option 1. for remove the Windows and install the linux 2. others
[18:54] <manishjain> i chose others.
[18:54] <manishjain> then i was stuck ,
[18:54] <KoreanZombie> milamber: I know it probably does not matter, I just wanna make sure the installation completes 100%, so I guess I can't go wrong by just letting it boot to whatever it wants (?)
[18:55] <TJ-> zykotick9: Unless a partition has been 'allocated' for Linux, taking up the 'free' space, in which case the user would need to choose the "Something Else" partitioning option and manually assign that partition to "/"
[18:55] <crahan_> #ljfsljfdsljflskdf
[18:55] <hitsujiTMO> manishjain: boot to the live cd and pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l                   so we can see whats going on
[18:55] <manishjain> Ok. hitsujiTMO, TJ-
[18:57] <milamber> KoreanZombie: what do you mean? to whatever it wants?
[18:57] <milamber> KoreanZombie: if the install completes, remove the installation usb and boot to the full install usb
[18:58] <KoreanZombie> milamber: so just remove it when I see it's done, then press reboot and pull it out fast so it can't boot back to it? (technically BIOS is set to boot to the installation USB and not the one I'm installing on)
[18:59] <Mongo44> Anyone subscribed to the Blaze TV and watch on the computer?
[18:59] <rooisto47> Hello everyone, I installed SCIM to type in "pinyin" with my keyboard following this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=739868 but I don't get "zh-pinyin" All I can see is "English/keyboard" "Other - RAW CODE" "Other - English/European"
[19:03] <milamber> KoreanZombie: shut down, remove install usb, turn computing machine back on, go into bios, select permanent install usb
[19:04] <KoreanZombie> milamber, alright thanks!
[19:10] <iam> I recently installed Xubuntu 13.10 on my netbook, but my internet isn't working on it.
[19:10] <iam> Does anyone know what the problem is?
[19:11] <hitsujiTMO> iam: wireless or wired?
[19:11] <iam> hitsujiTMO, wireless
[19:11] <ianorlin> iam what kind of wirless card if is built in try lspci to find out or lsusb if it is a usb card
[19:12] <Ozera> Does anyone know how to add a x.509 cert in ubuntu?
[19:12] <iam> ianorlin, i just got a bunch of text back from those commands, what exactly am i looking for?
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> iam and is the wireless working or just not the internet?
[19:13] <iam> hitsujiTMO, i'm pretty sure it's just the wireless, although i haven't tried wired connection yet
[19:13] <RedHawk> iam: Try the wired, make sure its not a problem with the connection to your ISP.
[19:14] <Guest95548> ciao
[19:14] <iam> RedHawk, i don't really know how to do wired though...
[19:14] <iam> :S
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Iam: sudo lshw -C network ,will tell you the wireless chip
[19:14] <ianorlin> iam it could be like 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[19:14] <RedHawk> iam: plug it in...it will be automatic
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Iam: to 'do wired' connect an Ethernet cable between your system and your router and reboot. Done
[19:15] <iam> ActionParsnip, i got PCI (sysfs)
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Iam: same as in windows....
[19:15] <iam> i know, i but i don't have a cable
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Iam: your PCI bus is slow, give it a while
[19:15] <iam> actually i do have a cable
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> iam: lspci -nn | grep Network | grep -o '\[....:....\]'
[19:15]  * iam goes looking
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Iam: then why say you didnt know, now you say you do....
[19:15] <iam> ActionParsnip, ok. it's done, what do i look for
[19:16] <RedHawk> ActionParsnip: if you reboot for a networking issue....we need to have a talk! :D
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Iam: the product line for the wireless
[19:16] <aleo> Hi, I have a question. when I used wget -r http://example.com/some/foo then it downloads all the files starting from dir some. But I only want files in foo dir. what should I use?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Redhawk: the user is clearly new. It makes life easier
[19:16] <iam> ActionParsnip, i didn't know where to connect it to
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Iam: the hole it connects to. It will only fit in one
[19:17] <iam> ActionParsnip, :P, there are to production lines
[19:17] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  i had to go out and talk to a parent of one of my students. If I recall you were saying the Wifi issues in 12.0.4.03 are not resolved or not resolved easily
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Iam: what is the product line of the wireless?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Iam: then either
[19:17] <iam> ActionParsnip, they both say network
[19:17] <RedHawk> Seriously LMAO
[19:17] <homedefense> is there anyone available ot private message me and give me some advice on installing packages with unresolved dependancies under the ubuntu software center.  besides independantly searching out each indevidual one
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Iam: ok what are the product lines for both?
[19:17] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: the bug appears to be unresolved atm. Not seeing any suggestions for a fix.
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Redhawk: remeber the target audience of Ubuntu....
[19:18] <iam> ActionParsnip, RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller | is the first one
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> homedefense: what is the output of: sudo apt-get -f install; lsb_release -a
[19:18] <RedHawk> ActionParsnip: I know.....I just cant help it.
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Iam: see how that says "Ethernet" guess what connector that is?
[19:19] <iam> ActionParsnip, BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY is the second
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> homedefense: use http://pastie.org or similar to host
[19:19] <RedHawk> oooo, Broadcom.
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | iam
[19:19] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  and the bug is what exactly?with certain wifi hardware or just wifi as a whole? just curious cause it connects but like i said you basically need to be sitting on the router to do so
[19:20] <iam> c:
[19:20] <adalberto> hi
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Iam: they are the cheapest and easiest to setup (short of working out of the box)
[19:21] <adalberto> I have a problem
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: with the driver for your wifi chipset. It appears to have show stopping issues post kernel 3.5 (and maybe earlier) that are not fixed
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Iam: did you not know that wired connections use an Ethernet cable?
[19:21] <homedefense> actionparsnip http://pastie.org/8692050
[19:21] <iam> ActionParsnip, not really...
[19:21] <iam> i mostly use wireless, and my dad sets it u
[19:21] <iam> p
[19:21] <iam> so i am very new to this
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: at least i couldn't find any fixes in the bug reports and all bug reports are still unresolved
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Iam: well, you learned something new today :-)
[19:22] <iam> :D
[19:22]  * iam goes to look for cable
[19:22] <RedHawk> iam: ActionParsnip And I think I know the issue...
[19:22] <iam> RedHawk, what's the issue
[19:22] <adalberto> I want to share folders between windows xp and ubuntu 13.10 using my hostname whith samba, but when I try to do it it ask me for a password that I don't know, when I do it using my ip address it works excellent...
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> homedefense: ok, run: sudo apt-get upgrade ,what is the output please?
[19:22] <RedHawk> ActionParsnip: you porbably just need to walk him through a wireless connection setup and have him enter the password for the router
[19:22] <pip__> ha! samba - bane of my sunday
[19:23] <homedefense> actionparsnip I have 9 pending
[19:23] <RedHawk> iam: do you know the password for your wireless connection?
[19:23] <iam> RedHawk, yes
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> adalberto: are the folders being shared from windows?
[19:23] <iam> i'm on my wireless connection with my laptop right now
[19:23] <RedHawk> iam: have you entered it in to the wireless connection menu?
[19:23] <adalberto> No, from ubuntu to windows
[19:23] <iam> RedHawk, no connections are showing
[19:24] <adalberto> I can access the using the ubuntu ip address
[19:24] <iam> RedHawk, on this laptop, there's a list of them, but on the netbook there are none
[19:24] <adalberto> But using the ubuntu hostname it ask me for a password
[19:24] <iam> RedHawk, networking is enabled too
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> homedefense: yes. What is the output of the upgrade command
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> adalberto: run: gksudo gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[19:25] <RedHawk> iam: thats a little disconcerting.
[19:25] <iam> RedHawk, is there a way to see if it's actually working, a command that lists wireless networks
[19:26] <adalberto> ActionParsnip: it opens a blank file...
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> adalberto: change: send host-name "<hostname>" , to send host-name "the actual hostname of the system";
[19:26] <pip__> hi again, I've now got permission denied when trying to mount my samba share, anybody got any ideas?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> adalberto: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[19:26] <pip__> 13.10 64 bit, clean install, smbpasswd & smbuser freshly made
[19:26] <adalberto> ActionParsnip: ¿from windows?
[19:26] <daftykins> pip__: so did you use smbpasswd to set the password for your user first?
[19:26] <RedHawk> iam: here is a page with a walkthrough. http://askubuntu.com/questions/80402/broadcom-bcm4312-not-working
[19:26] <daftykins> ah
[19:27] <pip__> daftykins: before what?
[19:27] <daftykins> well, trying.
[19:27] <daftykins> pip__: also are you testing with smbclient?
[19:27] <iam> RedHawk, thanks :)
[19:27] <adalberto> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[19:27] <pip__> daftykins: yes, & yes.  perhaps I should set the share up again, the folder I mean
[19:27] <RedHawk> iam: no, keep in mind, you will need to plug into the wired connection to get internet to get the workaround working.
[19:27] <RedHawk> NP...
[19:28] <pip__> daftykins: actually, smbclient is cli yes?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> adalberto: its an ubuntu default file
[19:28] <pip__> daftykins: if so I could probably do with the syntax again
[19:28] <daftykins> pip__: since you created it inside /media, are you sure you actually have rights on it, as your user?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> RedHawk: the broadcom files are on the install cd too. Read the broadcom guide
[19:28] <adalberto> ActionParsnip: I don't understand what do you mean...
[19:28] <pip__> daftykins: erm, no..........
[19:28] <daftykins> pip__: it is CLI yes, "smbclient \\IP address\sharename -u username"
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> adalberto: its a file in ubuntu. Makes the system send the hostname to the dhcp server
[19:30] <adalberto> So...
[19:30] <adalberto> ActionParsnip:  What can I do...?
[19:32] <adalberto> ActionParsnip: ls /etc/dhcp3
[19:32] <adalberto> dhclient-enter-hooks.d
[19:33] <pip__> daftykins: smbclient returns an error, but I need to sort this ownership thing out I think
[19:33] <Mongo44> I think I am going to reinstall my OS. Is Ubuntu 14.04 out yet?
[19:34] <pip__> daftykins: the folder's on a second hdd, can I make the mountpoint elsewhere?
[19:34] <pip__> daftykins: would that even help?
[19:34] <KoreanZombie> milamber you still here?
[19:35] <Kirill> всем привет
[19:35] <hitsujiTMO> Mongo44: no its not
[19:36] <Mongo44> I might just go with Wheezy it is more stable anyway.
[19:36] <KoreanZombie> milamber: I did it all as you said and I'm STILL stuck at black screen with blinking "_" and spamming left shift STILL does nothing :(
[19:37] <daftykins> pip__: just run this: "sudo chown yourusername: /path/to/your/share/path"
[19:39] <zykotick9> pip__: is it a FAT/NTFS formatted parition?  if so, daftykins command above won't help...
[19:39] <pip__> ext4
[19:39] <zykotick9> pip__: k, just checkin'
[19:39] <pip__> lol np
[19:40] <pip__> daftykins: aww man - permission denied
[19:40] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  how can i alter the desktop on (reg) ubuntu 12.0.4.03 to edubuntu 12.04.03 I downloaded all the updates to change it to edubuntu but dekstop, etc is still reg ubuntu flavor.
[19:41] <pip__> daftykins: but I think I can change the group too
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> rustuptwist: log off then log on to the xfce or edubuntu session
[19:41] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: at the login screen(lightdm) you can choose the session type
[19:41] <adalberto> Well I gotta go... Sorry, you can help later
[19:42] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  i finally got net connectivity for the laptop in question with wifi issues (ethernet connected it to my mac) Still interested in seeing the print out of the lpsci, etc command?
[19:42] <pip__> daftykins: the chown changed some stuff, & I changed the group in the permissions tab to sambashare, but still no dice
[19:43] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: you gave me the important info that i needed to identify it
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: obviously....
[19:45] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  ok just wanted to make sure before i restart and lose that info. here is something that i found, not sure if it applies to my situation, though
[19:45] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6863304/
[19:48] <rustuptwist> ActionParsnip:  the only options i seem to have are GNome Classic, Gnome Classic (No effects) Ubuntu, Ubuntu 2D. Perhaps I am looking in the wrong place...
[19:48] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: that user is using a much older kernel. It's worth a shot at least
[19:49] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: hey, appparently the thing that I thought was causing the issue (setting boot device) was not it, now you said I should boot in the "try ubuntu without installing" via the installing USB I'm using, and do "!boot-repair" I'm not sure what u mean but I tried writing it in terminal and it said "event not found"
[19:50] <rustuptwist> !ubuntu 2d
[19:50] <rustuptwist> !gnome classic
[19:50] <rustuptwist> !gnome
[19:51] <rustuptwist> !xfce
[19:52] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair this is the info you need
[19:52] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO thank you, I will look into that
[19:54] <daftykins> pip__: can you use paste.ubuntu.com to show exactly what errors you're getting when trying to do things?
[19:55] <tux_1> Is there a top like command to monitor graphics cards?
[19:58] <rustuptwist> anyone used or using uberstudent  and can speak on its merits or lack thereof
[20:01] <hyprvx> Hello, I'm running xubuntu 13.10 saucy and my WiFi connections drop for no real reason
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> rustuptwist  not in this channel
[20:02] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: Alright, so I followed the link you provided, got the Boot Repair downloaded, ran the "recommended repair" and I got "The boot of your PC is in EFI mode, but no EFI partition was detected. You may want to retry after creating an EFI partition (FTA32, 100MB~250MB, start of the disk, boot flag) Do you want to continue?" - Now I'm not sure what that means, but I'm fairly sure I should press "Yes" and continue, I just w
[20:03] <KoreanZombie> ..be the key to what's wrong.
[20:03] <pip__> my cap's burned out with this - I'll try again tomorrow
[20:03] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: choose no.
[20:03] <pip__> g'nite folks
[20:03] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO alright
[20:03] <KoreanZombie> operation is aborded.
[20:04] <hyprvx> I connect to a wifi network, and then a few minutes later it says "You are disconnected" and there's no wifi networks available
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: reinstall again, but choose legacy boot/bios boot/csm boot
[20:04] <zykotick9> hyprvx: broadcom?
[20:05] <hyprvx> zykotick9: I believe it's an atheros, how can I verify?
[20:05] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: That's something I choose when doing the partitioning after pressing "Something else", right?
[20:05] <zykotick9> hyprvx: hummm.  confirm with "lspci | grep -i net" or "lspci | grep -i wire" perhaps... lsusb if it's USB
[20:06] <Ozera> could anyone help with this: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1wtvy4/x509_client_certificate/ ?
[20:06] <hyprvx> Qualcomm Atheros AR928X PCI-E adapter, zykotick9
[20:06] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: or wait, is that something in the bios?
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: yup
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: edit -> preferences -> advanced -> certificates -> import
[20:08] <zykotick9> hyprvx: sorry, i got nothin' to suggest... best of luck!
[20:08] <hyprvx> anyone else? an atheros wireless chipset keeps dropping wifi connections
[20:08] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, I know that. I specified in the thread the thread I knew that
[20:09] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, my question was what to do with the information i was given in the text file
[20:09] <hellbutt> Problem: Flash on YouTube only /sometimes/ works on Chromium Version 31.0.1650.63 Ubuntu 12.04 (31.0.1650.63-0ubuntu0.12.04.1~20131204.1)
[20:10] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: alright, so its the order in which it should boot I'm guessing? Legacy boot being the installation USB with Iso file/image? or what are those three exactly? I can only choose the two USB's (the one I'm installing FROM and the one I'm installing TO - sometimes there's both a "normal" version and one with "UEFI" in front but it seems random how many there are)
[20:10] <hellbutt> Often, it fails and displays "This video is currently unavailable"
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: you want to disable uefi boot for it essentially
[20:11] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, so do you have any idea about it?
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: the text file is the cert. you're importing that into firefox
[20:12] <lickalott> gents, before I boot into gparted is there a way to remove/delete all existing partitions on a disk with fdisk or parted?  Everytime I've tried (4 free) it only lets me do a single partition which only leaves me with 75% of the disk
[20:12] <KoreanZombie> ok, I will look for that
[20:12] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: So if I manage to disable UEFI, that was the problem and it should theoritically work after another reinstall?
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: yes. UEFI aint the best for doing an install on a removable drive
[20:13] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: alright, thank you very much weird this is not mentioned in any of the guides I've tried following
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: UEFI is still relatively new and installing to usb isn't don't a lot so it would be missing
[20:14] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, well, there is other non-related information in the same file. So I have to take that information and save it in a different file. Do I copy/paste everything (the cert-blahlah.pem and the --begin cert-- word words --end cert--) into a new file?
[20:15] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: Ah I see, I guess my mobo was "too new" for me :P
[20:15] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, if so, what file extension do  use
[20:19] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: try first to grab the file as is. it may pickup the cert info as is. alto some software are very sensitive when it comes to handling certs. .pem is grand for an extention, it doesn't really matter, you'll prob just need to choose "All files" when importing. if not, pull --being-- to --end-- into a file, make sure there is 1 and only 1 retutn character after --end-- and none before --begin-- and then try importing that
[20:20] <KoreanZombie> HitsujiTMO: hmm do you think it's under "Boot Device Control" which was set to "UEFI and Legacy OpROM" and I need to change this to "Legacy OpROM only" or is this something else entirely?
[20:21] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: its different from manufacturer to manufacturer, but that does sound like the correct setting
[20:21] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: alright, I thought so aswell. Will save changes, reboot and see what happens
[20:23] <neredsenvy> I have dual monitors and sticky edges off however everytime my mouse croses from one screen to the other it gets stuck and i have to move out and in to the first monitor again.
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> neredsenvy  your question being...?µ
[20:25] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, what file extension do i save the --begin-- to --end--
[20:25] <KoreanZombie> hiitsujiTMO: Alright, now it only recognized non-UEFI and I have begun another reinstallation. If this one is actually succesfull I will be over the moon! Thanks a lot for all your help so far!
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: .pem or whatever. it doesn't matter
[20:25] <cuddylier> How would I know when my server box runs out of RAM by looking at the system log?
[20:26] <guntbert> cuddylier: look at the output of   free
[20:27] <cuddylier> guntbert No, when when looking at the system log after it crashed.
[20:27] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: it it runs out of RAM physical + virtual you'll see a truckload of crash dumps followed by a system reboot
[20:27] <cuddylier> I can paste one here if you like
[20:27] <guntbert> cuddylier: ah you said system logs - there you will find it only very late
[20:27] <guntbert> !paste | cuddylier
[20:28] <cuddylier> Yeah, I'm not that silly :P
[20:28] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, FF -> Edit -> Preferences-> advanced -> View Certificates -> Your Certificates -> import:    I can't see the .pem i saved
[20:28] <cuddylier> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6863559/
[20:28] <Ozera> o nvm
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: change to "all files" as i said earlier
[20:28] <cuddylier> Previous to that log it was just showing my cronjob
[20:28] <Ozera> yea
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: id install nagios and have it email when the ram is low
[20:29] <manikanta> hello
[20:29] <manikanta> I have a doubt
[20:29] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, "please enter the password that was used to create this certificate backup", um how am i supposed to know that
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: hve you a syslog from before it restarted?
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: you should be supplied with it
[20:30] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: try a blank password if you weren't
[20:30] <manikanta> I just want to know where the user id's and salt values are stored :? I know they are stored in file , but where will it be ?
[20:30] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, I was given AWS info, the cert-wordswords.pem thing (what is that anyway), the --begin cert-- to --end cert-- thing, and a private key
[20:30] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Yes
[20:30] <guntbert> xmetal: cuddylier thats the wrong one - thats from after the reboot
[20:30] <cuddylier> I believe part of that log is before and after
[20:30] <cuddylier> Ah
[20:30] <cuddylier> Ahh yes
[20:31] <hitsujiTMO> manikanta: stored in the dank dark merky shadow of the linux file system
[20:31] <cuddylier> There seems to be a big gap in timings..
[20:31] <guntbert> cuddylier: I din't see any
[20:31] <manikanta> /etc/shadow ??
[20:31] <manikanta> is it correct ?
[20:31] <lickalott> this is what I get after I run through fdisk (this is a 750GB drive)   /dev/sdb1    688G    198M   653G    (Size   Used   Avail)
[20:32] <hitsujiTMO> manikanta: exactly
[20:32] <lickalott> it still shows 3 "free" partitions but fdisk won't kill them
[20:32] <cuddylier> guntbert I mean in the files I have
[20:32] <cuddylier> The box restarted two hours ago and its timezone is GMT -8
[20:32] <manikanta>  manikanta:$6$j8xyhThw$PVd9LiKMDdEpjqdYHx.szcu7ZlsBUXL83rpH1EW3ADix6ShEmX/OFh4C8vgIl85PwOh2n0aT4ZtjGFwP8HqZg1:16094:0:99999:7:::
[20:33] <manikanta> what does this line tell us ?
[20:33] <jrib> manikanta: yeah, you really shouldn't paste hashes here like that
[20:33] <guntbert> manikanta: posting the contents of /etc/shadow is *never* a good idea
[20:33] <manikanta> like what is the pattern followed there ?
[20:33] <jrib> manikanta: man 5 shadow
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> manikanta: its detailed in: man shadow
[20:33] <manikanta> okay :)
[20:33] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, what is the cert-wordswords.pem thing?
[20:34] <TJ-> manikanta: "man shadow"
[20:34] <guntbert> manikanta: you should probably change your password now
[20:34] <manikanta> sure !
[20:34] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: a certificate
[20:34] <manikanta> is there a way to decrypt that hash value ?
[20:35] <TJ-> manikanta: No, not decryption, but it could be compared against rainbow tables if the salt is known
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: .pem Defined in RFC's 1421 through 1424, this is a container format that may include just the public certificate (such as with Apache installs, and CA certificate files /etc/ssl/certs), or may include an entire certificate chain including public key, private key, and root certificates. The name is from Privacy Enhanced Email, a failed method for secure email but the container format it used lives on.
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> manikanta: brute force
[20:36] <manikanta> how to know salt ?
[20:36] <guntbert> TJ-: the salt IS known, it's part of the entry
[20:36] <TJ-> guntbert: precisely :)
[20:36] <manikanta> where is it , is it in that line ?
[20:36] <guntbert> manikanta: man shadow :-))
[20:37] <cowbacon> manikanta: if thats your user and you use the same password anywhere else you need to change it right now everywhere
[20:39] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, so am I supposed to save the --begin-- to --end-- part in a .pem file and save it in /etc/ssl/certs?
[20:39] <gry> hi, how do I update /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt ? I get error "error: server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none while accessing <an URL here>". ca-certificate package is already a latest version, but it's 2011. I'm on 12.04
[20:39] <gry> what is TMO?
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: no. thats for a specific use of a differend kind of cert. to import it info firefox do as i said earlier
[20:40] <Merandus> hello, i have a ubuntu 13.1 server. can i update it to 14.4 alpha?
[20:40] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, ah. Hm, it didn't work for just entering a blank pw
[20:41] <bekks> Merandus: Is it a production server?
[20:41] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: then you need to find out what the password is. check the companies faq for info
[20:41] <Merandus> bekks: no, it's my personal server, i use it to learn things.
[20:43] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, okay
[20:43] <marix_> hello , newbie here , need few tips for wifi
[20:44] <sugnuiu> !lista
[20:44] <sugnuiu> !list
[20:44] <gry> sugnuiu, ciao
[20:44] <lickalott> ok, scratch the format thing.  I'll figure that out on my own.    I just installed the latest nvidia driver package for my video card rebooted and settings still shows "unknown" for Graphics.  Is there something else I need to do?
[20:44] <marix_> ciao , mi serve aiuto
[20:44] <lickalott> it registered itself with X
[20:46] <marix_> ciao , mi serve aiuto  ,need help please ;D
[20:46] <gry> !it
[20:46] <gry> marix_: although what's up with wifi?
[20:47] <mdbrim> who wants to help a newb setup x11vnc on a headless setup? i've spent 2 straight days on google and nothing has helped!
[20:47] <marix_> hello , i installed ubuntu lst one from original site , on a old hp , all was good but i cant install wifi usb stick ... tried few thing from google but nothing
[20:48] <kreuger> Hey guys, I can't log into my desktop because I think of some corrupt user settings. Can I create a new user via live cd and use that to login?
[20:49] <marix_> con u contact me in private for help please . wont get u too much time
[20:49] <guntbert> marix_: keep support in the channel please
[20:50] <marix_> ok
[20:50] <Ozera> What is the difference in the ip address google tells me and the ipaddress I look up in my terminal?
[20:50] <marix_> so , ubuntio doest recognize internal wifi , and i cant reach any System > Administation > Hardware Drivers window ..there is none
[20:50] <jamesd> Ozera: your desktop may be behind one or more firwalls that are doing NAT...
[20:52] <Ozera> jamesd, NAT?
[20:53] <guntbert> kreuger: not directly, you need to chmod into the system with a few steps for preparation
[20:53] <Ozera> jamesd, so if someone asks why my ipaddress is should I tell them what google says it is or what it says in my terminal
[20:53] <jamesd> Ozera: network address translation... it aloows many hosts to share a single ip address and provides some security as well
[20:53] <kreuger> guntbert, would you mind showing me how?
[20:54] <jamesd> Ozera: is your ip address on the host like  10.x.x.x  or 172.16.x.x or 192.168.x.x
[20:54] <jamesd> replace x with any number between 1 and 255
[20:54] <guntbert> kreuger: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery please
[20:55] <kreuger> guntbert, awesome, thanks
[20:55] <guntbert> kreuger: but it would be easier to create a new use from CLI
[20:55] <guntbert> *user
[20:55] <kreuger> I cant get in at all, but I have no issue using cli
[20:55] <ezrhino> hello. I have disabled checking for update from startup menu but it still checks on boot. Any ideas?
[20:55] <marix_>  anyone can tell me how to reack window for devices in ubuntu 13.10
[20:57] <guntbert> kreuger: in CLI type    sudo adduser <the newone> ; sudo adduser <thenewone> sudo
[20:58] <xxx> Hello!
[21:01] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: omfg it worked! Finally! After 3 days and ~25 hours of actively trying to install different ubuntu/linux versions, you solved the rubix cube and made it work. I hope all kinds of good karma comes your way, have a wonderful day!
[21:07] <hj2007> hi, can anyone please help me increasing the ulimit from 10k to 40k. I've tried every measure as given on forums but it's not working. Here is the detailed problem http://superuser.com/questions/710476/how-to-increase-maximum-file-open-limit-ulimit-in-ubuntu
[21:11] <ulkesh> hj2007: read through http://posidev.com/blog/2009/06/04/set-ulimit-parameters-on-ubuntu/  and then reboot
[21:11] <ulkesh> hj2007: i mean after doing what it says, reboot then it should take effect, i've used that guide a few times and it's worked
[21:12] <hj2007> ulkesh: I've already seen that blog and followed what it said, but it is not helping
[21:12] <hj2007> ulkesh: please check the SO link that I have provided. I'm stuck at 10000 limit
[21:14] <ulkesh> hj2007: you say in your link that you added the session required pam_limits.so to /etc/pam.d/su but the link i gave you says to do it in  /etc/pam.d/common-session
[21:15] <hj2007> ulkesh: even "/etc/pam.d/common-session" file in my system has "session required pam_limits.so"
[21:16] <ulkesh> hj2007: and you've rebooted?
[21:16] <hj2007> ulkesh: yes
[21:16] <ulkesh> hj2007: yeah then i'm at a loss, i've always had it work by following that link's instructions
[21:16] <ulkesh> hj2007: sorry :(
[21:16] <hj2007> ulkesh: oh ok, btw thanks for the help
[21:17] <ulkesh> hj2007: maybe double check that you don't have something setting the ulimit in ~/.bashrc /etc/profile or ~/.bash_profile
[21:17] <ulkesh> hj2007: sadly i'm not much help on this one :( hope you get it working soon!
[21:19] <hj2007> ulkesh: bingo, you are right "/etc/profile" had the issue. thank you so much :)
[21:19] <ulkesh> hj2007: oh cool!  most welcome, glad that's all it was
[21:19] <hj2007> ulkesh: hopefully, let me restart :)
[21:23] <mikodo> Hi, Quick Question. I need to move my home partition (Ubuntu 10.04), to a supported one. I would like it to be Xubuntu 12.04 for now. Would the "dot" filesbe compatible from Ubuntu to Xubuntu in my seperate home partition, or would it be best to stick with Ubuntu 12.04 because of that/?
[21:24] <ikonia> mikodo: delete them
[21:24] <mikodo> Oh it is  the Desktop version of Ubuntu 10.04
[21:24] <ikonia> yes I read what you said
[21:26] <mikodo> ikonia, Thanks!
[21:27] <ianorlin> but can't there be irc logs in dot files you may want to keep
[21:28] <ikonia> they would be in the irc clients logs directory, not configuration
[21:28] <ianorlin> yes which for weechat is ~/.weechat/logs
[21:28] <ikonia> right, so "logs" directory, applying common sense eg: keep anythin gyou want
[21:30] <Nodgic> Hi
[21:30] <Nodgic> What are some good free antivirus/malware software for linux?
[21:32] <rww> !virus
[21:33] <Nodgic> Well i kinda suspected that but someone mentioned to me that there is malware for linux because a lot of servers run linux
[21:34] <ikonia> ignore anything that person ever tells you again then
[21:34] <Nodgic> alright
[21:35] <daftykins> malware will always exist, but likely it will come in forms that are very different to what you expect
[21:35] <daftykins> for example, a Linux web server could spread infections, but it may not be infected itself
[21:35] <Nodgic> ah right
[21:35] <Nodgic> i guess im safe then
[21:35] <ikonia> you're as safe as you make it
[21:39] <BoxsDown> i ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade on a friends computer 5 days ago then got the flu. apparently every since i left, wifi has been down for him. looking at syslog i see a bunch of errors about rt2500 failing to enter state 4
[21:39] <BoxsDown> any idea why wifi is not working/how to fix?
[21:40] <ikonia> kernel change and incompatible 3rd party driver
[21:40] <ikonia> (at a guess)
[21:40] <lickalott> you could try enabling the proposed repositories (software center > edit > software sources > updates) then try an update and/or upgrade
[21:41] <BoxsDown> its a native driver that is supposed to work out of the box
[21:41] <ikonia> lickalott: why ?
[21:41] <ikonia> lickalott: why do such a stupid random thing ?
[21:41] <BoxsDown> because there might be a fix
[21:41] <ikonia> BoxsDown: I think you need to get the exact errors
[21:41] <ikonia> BoxsDown: why not reboot into a fedora CD...that may fix it too...it won't be it's just random
[21:41] <BoxsDown> give me some time to get a text file out of that computer and pastebinit
[21:42] <lickalott> its worked for nvidia drivers in the past ikonia
[21:42] <lickalott> just trying to help
[21:42] <ikonia> lickalott: then you are very lucky many other things didn't break
[21:43] <BoxsDown> i havent had any problem with the proposed repository
[21:43] <BoxsDown> but without internet it will do nothing
[21:43] <lickalott> my understanding was that this was defaulted in 12.10 but those still running 12.04 needed to enable it for specific driver sets.
[21:43] <s0u][ight> hey, what happened to ubuntu for android?
[21:43] <ikonia> s0u][ight: dead
[21:44] <lickalott> i could be a complete retard also....  I think Obama is an alien cause that's what I read on the internet
[21:44] <popey> ikonia: nope
[21:44] <ikonia> popey: educate then
[21:44] <popey> s0u][ight: it's still under development, but hasn't been released yet
[21:44] <wes_> i have a question.  is ubuntu server just normal ubuntu without X?
[21:44] <s0u][ight> popey: where can I find additional information?
[21:44] <bekks> wes_: Basically yes.
[21:45] <popey> s0u][ight: only what's on ubuntu.com, it's currently being demonstrated to carriers / handset manufacturers I believe.
[21:45] <wes_> if i remove xorg will that remove unity?
[21:46] <bekks> wes_: Yes.
[21:46] <s0u][ight> oh, I wish i could use my tablet as a desktop, i have a keyboard and mouse attached already
[21:46] <wes_> ss0][ight: what kind of tablet is it?
[21:47] <BoxsDown> why cant you?
[21:47] <jamesd> s0u][ight: 1. i would miss my 27" monitors, or #2.. i would look wierd carrying around a 27" tablet, people would be asking is that an iphone 7 or something.
[21:48] <BoxsDown> okay here is a sample of my syslog: http://pastebin.com/FAWJixqt
[21:49] <s0u][ight> jamesd: i have a nexus 7, ever since i got it, it replaced my netbook, it is way better in terms of  performance, battery life and much more, and i am used  to small displays
[21:50] <BoxsDown> a lot of third world countries are using Anfroid as a desktop OS
[21:50] <BoxsDown> Android*
[21:50] <wes_> what are you wantingto do with it?
[21:51] <BoxsDown> looking at that error, can anyone venture a guess as to how to get wifi working again? please i dont want to re-install again. this box has been formatted like 20 times in the past year
[21:52] <Anomylous> what is the error?
[21:52] <BoxsDown> http://pastebin.com/FAWJixqt
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> BoxsDown: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:53] <BoxsDown> lets find out
[21:54] <BoxsDown> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[21:54] <BoxsDown> is what i got in return
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> 13.04 is !eol
[21:54] <BoxsDown> i have never been able to connect to wifi using 13.10 (on any of my wifi cards)
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Boxsdown: raring is no longer supported in any way
[21:55] <BoxsDown> it refuses to connect, keeps telling me the password to connect to the AP is wrong
[21:55] <MegaDrive> hello
[21:55] <MegaDrive> where can i seek help regarding 3g modems and linux
[21:55] <BoxsDown> so can you help me with getting wifi working in 13.10?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Boxsdown: try 12.04 which is LTS. You could even install Trusty which is LTS and released in April 2014
[21:55] <MegaDrive> is there any applications that will show more indepth information
[21:55] <BoxsDown> MegaDrive:  this place is a good start. what do you need help with specifically?
[21:56] <Anomylous> what 3g modem is it?
[21:56] <Fevix> Hello, my mother needs help with Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit. She purchased and installed a game through the Ubuntu Software Center, but it does not show up in the pane on the left, nor does the computer find it when she searches for it using the search pane.
[21:56] <SN3> hello
[21:56] <MegaDrive> oh everything is working, just want a applet or a term or something that provides more information, regarding signal
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Megadrive: run: lsusb ,use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[21:56] <MegaDrive> its a mobi modem
[21:56] <MegaDrive> in my elitebook
[21:56] <MegaDrive> works fine
[21:56] <FloodBot1> MegaDrive: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:57] <BoxsDown> gobi?
[21:57] <MegaDrive> yes its a hp 3g modem
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Fevix: can you run it from ALT+F2
[21:57] <MegaDrive> let me get its name
[21:57] <MegaDrive> 2 tits
[21:57] <Anomylous> whos mom needid help?
[21:57] <MegaDrive> ticks
[21:57] <Fevix> Mine
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> MegaDrive: the ID will help you find guides
[21:57] <Anomylous> what is the name of the game?
[21:57] <Anomylous> ?
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> Anomylous  sure you're in the right channel?
[21:58] <Fevix> Don't know. Haven't asked. She's on the phone with me.
[21:58] <MegaDrive> i will use the usb id
[21:58] <MegaDrive> :)
[21:58] <BoxsDown> it would be helpful to know what app we are working with
[21:58] <MegaDrive> i want to send and receive sms's with it
[21:58] <Fevix> She just told me she gets "SOft reset failed" whenever it wakes up from sleep, and it takes ~5 mins to wake to show that
[21:59] <MegaDrive> and see more in depth signal strength
[21:59] <Anomylous> monkeydust: what are you saying?
[21:59] <MegaDrive> in db's if possible
[21:59] <BoxsDown> its having problems with power management, i'd disable sleep for now
[22:00] <DougsTech> sepeck, My Skype random freezes (gray screen), while it's frozen it uses around the 100% of my CPU (htop). What could be the problem? Also, sometimes it unfreezes after a period, but sometimes its like forever. Running Ubuntu 13.10. It doesn't crash, just freezes..
[22:00] <zophy> why ?
[22:00] <shutch> hi all. trying to install 13.10 in a virtualbox vm and getting an error: Sorry Ubuntu 13.04 has experienced an internal error /usr/bin/compiz
[22:01] <DougsTech> zophy, yo yo
[22:01] <zophy> 13.10 runs for me
[22:01] <Anomylous> shutch: try goving your vm  ore VRAM
[22:01] <zophy> DougsTech, hello !!
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> DougsTech: if you make a new Ubuntu user, is it the same there?
[22:01] <shutch> Anomylous: how much? already at 1280mb
[22:01] <DougsTech> zophy, too bad the ise didn't work
[22:02] <Anomylous> no, video ram.  and enable 3d acceleration
[22:02] <zophy> if i don't get banned or quieted everyday i don't feel well :)
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> shutch: sounds like you are trying to install Raring....
[22:02] <DougsTech> zophy, lol
[22:02] <Sia-> with ubuntu 13.10 the laptop doesn't suspend if i clode Lid it?
[22:03] <Sia-> what did you change again?
[22:03] <haemus> how can I get the word count of the date file in the term?
[22:04] <yeats> haemus: 'wc'
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Haemus: man wc
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> haemus: wc -w file
[22:05] <Fevix> Update: The game seems to have vanished from the Software Center. Sukaro. It's telling her she needs to buy it again, though she already has.
[22:05] <haemus> yeah, but I just wasnt sure where this date file is even at
[22:05] <haemus> wc -w date, wont work
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> date | wc - w ,perhaps
[22:07] <profligacy> http://play.typeracer.com/?rt=vbm1ikq2qt23
[22:07] <haemus> ok that worked, i was trying wc | date -.-
[22:07] <haemus> ty! < linux noob
[22:08] <shutch> ActionParsnip: 13.10
[22:08] <Fevix> Update again: She found the installer, though she swears she already installed it. She's going to install it, I'll wait here in case she has more problems.
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> Shutch: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[22:09] <shutch> ActionParsnip: yea
[22:11] <haemus> cat file1 < file2, cat file1 << file2, does the first one overwrite, and the second one append?
[22:12] <shutch> Anomylous: yep, gave it 64MB of video ram, all good
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> haemus: ive used the redirection the other way. If you want to write to a file then work to the right
[22:12] <haemus> yeah just noticed, that was a typo
[22:13] <zykotick9> haemus: i think you mean "file > file2" and "file >> file2", the latter will append
[22:13] <haemus> yeah thats what I meant, ty
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Or you can use tee :-)
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> echo "text" | tee file ,to overwrite. echo "text" | tee -a file ,to add
[22:24] <ubuntunewserver> I am trying to set up a new computer and having problems with the wifi. I used 12.04 LTS server CD and then added the desktop gnome client. I can connect to my wifi rounter, but I cannot get the internet
[22:24] <lickalott> I have a GeForce 9600M (nvidia) discrete graphics chip.  i just loaded the nvidia drivers and my ONLY resolution option was 800x600.  i installed nvidia-current and nvidia-settings then ran nvidia-xconfig.  now I can only choose from 1280x720 and 800x600.  Neither of which I want.  What do i need to do to get more resolution options?  btw: I've added "ModeValidation" "AllowNinEdidModes" to the xorg.conf.
[22:24] <lickalott> *"AllowNonEdidModes"
[22:26] <ubuntunewserver> the wifi displays as connected but the browser will not load
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> lickalott: did you install bumblebee?
[22:27] <lickalott> never heard of it
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewserver: can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[22:27] <Merandus> I'm going to add ubuntu 14.4 repos to my installation. is there any good back up solutions for the system? so i could recover if things break
[22:27] <rww> !info duplicity
[22:27] <rww> reinstall plus that ^
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> !backup | Merandus
[22:27] <aftermath> hey guys, can i connect to irc.freenode.net from here? :)
[22:27] <lickalott> !info bumblebee
[22:28] <rww> aftermath: you're currently on freenode
[22:28] <aftermath> rww: oh,thanks, :]
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> aftermath: this channel is on freenode
[22:28] <MasterOfDisaster> ubuntunewserver: sharing the output of 'ip a sh' and 'ip r' might help
[22:28] <MasterOfDisaster> ubuntunewserver: via paste.ubuntu.com of course :D
[22:29] <Merandus> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[22:29] <ubuntunewserver> ActionParsnip: it keeps displaying 64kytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=xx time = xx.x ms
[22:29] <aftermath> ActionParsnip: how can i connect to other # ?
[22:30] <spearhead> aftermath /join #channel_name
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewserver: try: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null ,then retry the web
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> aftermath: type: /join #channelname
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewserver: does it connect now?
[22:31] <ubuntunewserver> ip r output: defaults via 192.168.1.254 dev wlan0 proto static /n 169.254.0.0/16 dev wlan0 scope link metric 1000 /n 192.168.1.0/24 wlan proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.253 metric 2
[22:32] <Aossi> ok so i need some help
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> Aossi: details please
[22:32] <spearhead> Aossi, what can we help you with?
[22:32] <Aossi> i want to put ubuntu on my laptop my friends use ubuntu saddly none of them can help me with this
[22:32] <Aossi> ive been all over the ubuntu site
[22:33] <Aossi> i got the ubuntu iso i need and im trying to put it on my usb drive to be a boot disk but power iso doesnt like it
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Aosi: download the ISO and burn it as slowly as possible, or use unetbootin to put it on a USB stick etc. Then boot to the device
[22:33] <Aossi> i tried doing arch linux but all i got was this graphics issue
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Aossi: you dont need poweriso
[22:34] <spearhead> Aossi, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[22:34] <ubuntunewserver> ActionParsnip: thanks that worked
[22:34] <Aossi> http://imgur.com/FEf2X9X
[22:34] <MasterOfDisaster> Aossi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - follow these instructions
[22:34] <BoxsDown> Aossi:  the simple easy answer: http://linuxliveusb.com/
[22:34] <Aossi> i have pendrive
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewserver: thatbwont stick but get fully updated then reboot. The update may fix the issue
[22:35] <Aossi> woah guys whoa hold on man lol i can only keep up with so much
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Aossi: arch isnt supported here
[22:35] <Aossi> my only fear is that im going to get the same graphic issue that i got with arch
[22:35] <Aossi> i know
[22:35] <Aossi> i was told arch was like ubuntu and well they were wrong
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Aossi: download iso and md5 test it then use unetbootin to put the iso on the usb stick
[22:35] <Aossi> ubuntu is what im used to working on when i use my buddys laptops.
[22:35] <Aossi> k
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> Aossi: yes arch is very different
[22:36] <Aossi> whats the link for unetbootin
[22:36] <BoxsDown> is wifi support on 14.04 better or worse or same as 13.10?  none of my wifi cards work on ubuntu 13.10 but they work fine on 12.10. my internet is metered and expensive. i dont want to download 14.04 if it wont work with my wifi
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> Aossi: find it online. Its not hard to find
[22:36] <Aossi> k
[22:36] <BoxsDown> Aossi: http://linuxliveusb.com/
[22:36] <MasterOfDisaster> Aossi: practice your google-fu :-P
[22:37] <Aossi> lol MasterOfDisaster
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Boxsdown: depends on the chip
[22:37] <BoxsDown> is the list of supported devices accurite and up to date? i notice most documentation i have read is wildly out of date and missing info
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> Boxsdown: all i can say is try it.....
[22:38] <spearhead> !14.04 Boxsdown
[22:38] <spearhead> !14.04 | Boxsdown
[22:39] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, I have had this issue for at least the last month but never got around to fixing it: the default wifi network that is always connected to is 'attwifi' even though this is usually not in range and there is no profile for it.
[22:39] <Pinkamena_D> is this setting hidden somewhere so I can delete it
[22:40] <Aossi> what ubuntu version should i do?
[22:40] <Pinkamena_D> I use 13 for laptop and 12.04 for servers
[22:41] <Aossi> is 13.04 live x64 good and easy to do?
[22:41] <Aossi> im using an hp laptop
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Aossi: 13.04 is not supported anymore
[22:41] <Aossi> what is?
[22:41] <Pinkamena_D> by live do you mean running only from usb/disk?
[22:41] <BoxsDown> spearhead: why am i reading this?
[22:41] <Aossi> yes only from my usb drive
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Aossi: i suggest 12.04 it is LTS and supported til April 2017
[22:41] <Pinkamena_D> yes, 12.04 is good for that
[22:41] <BoxsDown> 12.04 doesnt snap  >_<
[22:42] <BoxsDown> no snap = drop in productivity
[22:42] <Aossi> 12.04 live x64 right?
[22:42] <spearhead> BoxsDown, because 14.04 is not supported here, if you have qustions about 14.04 please use the #ubuntu+1 channel
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> BoxsDown: its supported longest of the released versions
[22:42] <ubuntunewserver> ActionParsnip: updating did not solve the problem, back to square one. I can connect to the wifi but I do not get the internet
[22:42] <Pinkamena_D> actionParsnip, is your account more then one user or you just never sleep?
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> Aossi: they are all live...
[22:42] <Aossi> my only thing is i dont want to end up getting this graphic error again http://imgur.com/FEf2X9X
[22:42] <aft3rmath> well,, i done 13.10 and have some problems
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewserver: let me get a command
[22:42] <BoxsDown> sleep is taken in naps
[22:43] <spartacus_72> Sera
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Pinkamena_D: im uk. Its nearly 11pm here, early doors
[22:43] <MasterOfDisaster> ubuntunewserver: you sure it's not your router that's to blame?
[22:43] <ubuntunewserver> MasterOfDisaster: On the router on my laptop right now
[22:43] <BoxsDown> i already know 13.10 doesnt work on my hardware. why am i reading about 13.10? spearhead
[22:44] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. how can I use the '
[22:44] <gmachine_24> sorry, the 'dd' command to clone a partition?
[22:44] <MasterOfDisaster> ubuntunewserver: ok then. just cheking :)
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewserver: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[22:44] <ki7rw> can anyone tell me why i can stream the superbowl on windows firefox and NOT in firefox running on ubuntu?
[22:44] <MasterOfDisaster> gmachine_24: dd if=/dev/source of=/dev/target
[22:44] <gmachine_24> ki7rw silverlight?
[22:44] <BoxsDown> might be using Silverlight
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewserver: it will now stick between boots
[22:45] <MasterOfDisaster> ki7rw: most likely plugin issue. perhaps missing flash or silverlight or whatever.
[22:45] <ki7rw> gmachine_24: that's what i was wondering
[22:45] <gmachine_24> ki7rw, did you try chromium?
[22:45] <spearhead> BoxsDown, I don't know why you are reading about 13.10, you were asking about 14.04 so I was telling you that 14.04 is supported on the #ubuntu+1 channel
[22:45] <BoxsDown> k
[22:45] <gmachine_24> supposedly fox is streaming live for anyone on the internet
[22:45] <ki7rw> gmachine_24: nope - i'll give that a try
[22:45] <gmachine_24> you don't need to prove you're a cable head
[22:46] <gmachine_24> maybe even flash
[22:46] <BoxsDown> gmachine_24:  likely they are using microsoft silverlight. in ubuntu this is provided by Mono but doesnt fully support silverlight
[22:46] <gmachine_24> well, as I said, supposedly it's free and live if you have a "device"
[22:46] <Aossi> ok so i got it going creating the boot image on my usb drive
[22:47] <gmachine_24> MasterOfDisaster: and, thank you for your answer about cloning. the /dev/source I will want to use the actual parititon, right? as in /dev/sdc1 to /dev/sdd1 ... correct?
[22:47] <votz> How can I delete 8 GB of .fuse_hidden[...] files from the .Trash-1000 folder of an NTFS partition? gksudo nautilus -> shift+delete makes them disappear but refresh with f5 they're still there.
[22:48] <MasterOfDisaster> gmachine_24: correct. so something like dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1
[22:48] <Aossi> im using unetbootin
[22:48] <lickalott> ActionParsnip, is this the best route to take? http://askubuntu.com/questions/134594/how-to-install-bumblebee-ui-gui-in-ubuntu-12-04
[22:48] <gmachine_24> MasterOfDisaster: ok, thanks. just wanted to be sure. for some reason I haven't had much luck with this so far.
[22:48] <MasterOfDisaster> gmachine_24: partitions are the same size?
[22:49] <gmachine_24> MasterOfDisaster: well, not yeat
[22:49] <gmachine_24> *yet
[22:49] <gmachine_24> MasterOfDisaster: do they need to be?
[22:49] <gmachine_24> I thought perhaps it would kill the partition on the 2nd drive ie overwrite it
[22:50] <MasterOfDisaster> gmachine_24: target should be equal or greater
[22:50] <gmachine_24> MasterOfDisaster: ok. I can do that.
[22:51] <MasterOfDisaster> gmachine_24: did you get any error message? you said you 'haven't got any luck'? What happened?
[22:52] <oisin1001> Hello! Thinking about creating a bootable USB drive with Ubuntu on it. Is it possible to have a live Ubuntu version and my personal files on my USB at the same time>
[22:52] <oisin1001> *?
[22:53] <daftykins> oisin1001: sure, you can create partitions
[22:54] <oisin1001> daftykins: Would a partition work an a USB flash drive? Never tried that before
[22:54] <MasterOfDisaster> oisin1001: sure.
[22:54] <daftykins> absolutely ^
[22:54] <MasterOfDisaster> oisin1001: it's a disk like any other.
[22:54] <daftykins> oisin1001: what OS are you in right now?
[22:55] <oisin1001> daftykins: Windows 8.1
[22:55] <daftykins> oisin1001: running disk management would let you partition it then, are you going to use Universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com ?
[22:56] <ubuntunewserver> ActionParsnip: It now sticks between boots, which is to say when I restart it I can use firefox via wifi. However, if I unplug the ethernet cable and restart it, the wifi connection has disappeared (this is not new, it was going this before). At startup it spends a minute looking for a network configuration/connection
[22:56] <ubuntunewserver> ActionParsnip: and then finally starts up when it cannot find anyhting
[22:57] <gmachine_24> MasterOfDisaster: I repartitioned the target drive and now (I hope) the partition is being cloned; I had trouble coming up with the correct "dd" command for some reason - part of the problem was the drive was dying. whenever I set out to make a 3rd back up for offsite invariably the original drive starts to die. it's just weird.
[22:58] <MasterOfDisaster> gmachine_24: oh oh. if you have a dying drive, have a look at dd_rescue. Might get headaches else if the drive is flaky and errors out on accessing some sectors.
[22:59] <gmachine_24> I've decided from now on to replace the main drive every year, regardless.
[22:59] <gmachine_24> MasterOfDisaster: It's OK. I copied the information off the drive before it died. Now it's absolutely dead, though.
[22:59] <MasterOfDisaster> gmachine_24: RAID mirror and backup should be enough.
[23:00] <gmachine_24> MasterOfDisaster: yes, well, whatever should be enough always seems to be one less back up then what I end up needing
[23:00] <gmachine_24> *than, even
[23:00] <MasterOfDisaster> gmachine_24: story of our lives in IT :-(
[23:01] <gmachine_24> MasterOfDisaster: I tried to rescue the drive but that was when it finally died for good.
[23:01] <gmachine_24> if I needed I was going to try ... what.. testdisk and photorec....... but that's a forever task
[23:02] <Pugg> Its always a good idea to put your data on a slave, and replace that loosing no data, and using the replaced slave as an external.. ?
[23:02] <gmachine_24> I even used spinrite - which got stuck with 25 hours remaining, and the drive was making those gut-wrenching whir and click sounds...
[23:02] <ubuntunewserver> How do I connect to a wifi router at boot on a ubuntu server?
[23:03] <lickalott> ActionParsnip, disregard.  Found a better way.  (add a repo then update and install)
[23:03] <lickalott> thanks for the hint
[23:03] <gmachine_24> ubuntunewserver: as in you want to connect it wirelessly to via cable and do you have a wireless card or (heaven help me) usb "dongle"?
[23:03] <Pugg> Spinrite is awsome
[23:04] <gmachine_24> Pugg, I don't know. I think it's just free os programs packaged to sell
[23:04] <ki7rw> gmachine_24: looks like chrome plays it
[23:04] <gmachine_24> ki7rw, huh. so, maybe it's flash.
[23:06] <gmachine_24> ki7rw, On one of my android devices I could not get Amazon Prijme videos to play because Amazon is not gonna let someone make an app, right? so I used the Dolfin browser, d/l the flash version for ios and then... voile,,,, I could watch Amazon Prime on my Android
[23:07] <ubuntunewserver> gmachine_24: I have a wireless card. I would like it to connect at startup to the router. It hangs at boot for a minute if it is not directly plugged in via an ethernet cable. After that it takes another minute or two for it to recognize that there is wifi and then the internet works. I want it to work on boot. I have installed the desktop on the server instance to help facilitate setup, but eventually I want to turn it
[23:07] <ubuntunewserver> off and have the wifi connect automatically at boot
[23:12] <gmachine_24> ubuntunewserver: I am having pretty much the same problem. Except my trouble is getting the right driver for the usb plug in wireless gizmo that I have. maybe there is a simple gui utility that can help you set up the wireless as default. I'm not an expert but if I figure out how to do it I will post back.
[23:13] <ubuntunewserver> gmachine_24: Thanks. This is so stupid.
[23:19] <MasterOfDisaster> on my netbook, I use wicd's daemon to set up network on boot via wifi. I guess NetworkManager works out as well.
[23:24] <lickalott> ActionParsnip, are you still around?
[23:24] <lickalott> I can't get bumblebee to work
[23:24] <lickalott> I can get the app portion to run but the indicator refuses to launch
[23:47] <ki7rw> gmachine_24: not as good as watching on a regular tv
[23:53] <prayer> hello
[23:53] <prayer> anyone on?
[23:54] <prayer> anyone here or is this just bots?
[23:55] <vanishing> !anyone
[23:57] <prayer> hello???
[23:58] <zykotick9> prayer: if you have a question, you should ask it...
[23:59] <prayer> does anyone know how to get nvidia working on backbox? i intend to use pyrit instead of aircrack because of the speed increase, but i can't find a working solution anywhere, any help is greatly appreciated!