[00:01] i am now trying not to sign up for my isp's 130/10 package [00:19] * RAOF will (hopefully) be shortly signing up for Internode's 100/40 package. And resisting the temptation to go for the 1000/400 package. === StevenK_ is now known as StevenK === StevenK is now known as Guest57886 === FourDollars_ is now known as FourDollars === Guest57886 is now known as StevenK === tumbleweed_ is now known as tumbleweed === henrix_ is now known as henrix === superm1_ is now known as superm1 === ValicekB_ is now known as ValicekB === Wellark is now known as 64MABGBII === mchro- is now known as mchro === highvoltage is now known as 36DACCJE4 === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh === pbn is now known as 31NAAEF80 === 31NAAEF80 is now known as pbn === dspiteri is now known as Guest30044 === 31NAAEEZB is now known as rww === lilstevie is now known as 92AAAT7FI === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Nigel_ is now known as G === xymox_ is now known as xymox === Zic_ is now known as Guest82680 === schmidtm is now known as 23LAAZGSY === sforshee is now known as 77CABAJNP === beisner is now known as 45PABALOZ === TheDrums is now known as Guest98785 === Zic is now known as Guest30951 === Lutin is now known as Guest14280 === xnox is now known as 16WAAKRPZ === Zic is now known as Guest29225 === Guest30044 is now known as DarrenS === mapreri_ is now known as mapreri === LBo is now known as Guest63851 === Riddell is now known as 45PABBCRM === Logan_ is now known as Guest27276 === jrib is now known as Guest47292 === Zic is now known as Guest94646 === jpds is now known as Guest78130 === Daviey- is now known as Daviey === jamin is now known as 45PABBMBJ === LBo is now known as Guest23540 === Zic is now known as Guest23647 === jackson__ is now known as Noskcaj === jamin is now known as 23LAA0E7B === schmidtm is now known as 23LAA0EWV === timrc-afk is now known as timrc [06:08] I successfully managed to patch an USC bug, and test it on my local machine but I have no idea how to submit it...... === 17SAAFE91 is now known as Unit193 === ikonia is now known as Guest39856 === mapreri is now known as Guest59665 === shadeslayer is now known as Guest53594 === mchro is now known as 23LAA0OFE === 23LAA0OFE is now known as mchro === lucas is now known as 23LAA0PRY === Fudgey is now known as Fudge === s1aden is now known as sladen === LeonBo is now known as LBo === ion is now known as 14WAB1F8C === timrc-afk is now known as timrc === allee is now known as 45PABB6F4 === 31NAAEFW2 is now known as enrico [08:06] Who knows how this bug needs to be re-sectioned? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1275506 === schmidtm_ is now known as schmidtm === timrc-afk is now known as timrc === sam113101 is now known as YOURBESTFRIEND [08:21] steveire, ubuntu-website project, however I am not sure that is a valid bug, codenames are used after release pretty much everywhere === tsdgeos is now known as 77CABBB2X [08:27] Good morning === ara is now known as Guest80428 === timrc-afk is now known as timrc [08:54] darkxst: Thanks. How do I change it? [08:54] I think I got it. === ikonia is now known as 16WAALVWB === vila is now known as 14WAB1TAR === shadeslayer is now known as 14WAB1TNZ === shadeslayer is now known as 45PABCPI0 === Zic is now known as Guest21287 === pratchett.freenode.net changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Trusty Tahr Alpha 2 released! | Archive: open | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> saucy | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: === Lutin is now known as Guest12549 === lan3y is now known as Laney [10:24] ev: what thinkpad model do you have? is it a X230? [10:30] cyphermox_: x61 [10:30] 2007 [10:30] ok, so totally not the same device I have [10:31] I can't reproduce the issue here; could you bring your laptop over tomorrow so we can look at it? === zequence_ is now known as zequence === geser_ is now known as geser === 14WAB1TNZ is now known as shadeslayer === 16WAALVWB is now known as ikonia === vibhav is now known as Guest22586 === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson === bradm is now known as 5EXAAH0BV [12:27] tseliot1: Thanks for the fglrx/nvidia verifications. I've promoted everything now, with the exception of nvidia-settings-experimental-{304,310} which I believe are obsolete (bug 1076414) and nvidia-graphics-drivers-319-updates which has a v-failed bug according to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html (bug 1222670, which looks familiar ...). Let me know if I still need to do anything here before 12.04.4. === ebhtura_ is now known as Guest28424 === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Guest40244 === Ursinha_ is now known as Guest51202 === Guest51202 is now known as Ursula === TheLordOfTime is now known as teward [13:12] cjwatson: that's correct, as we now use nvidia-settings for all the drivers. Thanks! === Ursula is now known as Ursinha [13:13] tseliot1: Which is correct - you mean that those packages don't need to be moved to -updates for 12.04.4 [13:13] ? [13:13] (Just trying to be clear as we're running out of time.) === Logan_ is now known as Guest36571 [13:23] cjwatson: what I meant to say is that nvidia-settings-experimental-$VER have been replaced by the nvidia-settings package (i.e. they should be transitional packages now) [13:32] tseliot1: Right. nvidia-graphics-drivers-319-updates was the other part of my comment === sarnold_ is now known as sarnold [13:35] cjwatson: same as above. nvidia-319-updates is also a transitional package for nvidia-331-updates [13:36] OK [13:36] * cjwatson scratches off another set of blockers [13:44] hmm, I'm trying 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d' on 13.10, and getting: [13:44] Checking for a new Ubuntu release [13:44] No new release found [13:48] didrocks, salut mon ami - comment ça va? in the last comment of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1237045 it says "Package build configuration needs to be changed to use trunk." - do you know who could do that? [13:48] Launchpad bug 1237045 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Ubuntu UI Toolkit no longer builds on precise, quantal and raring" [Critical,Confirmed] [13:50] seiflotfy__, is anyone maintaining lp:activity-log-manager? [13:51] ev, ^ you perhaps? I have some MPs === fginther` is now known as fginther === sraue_ is now known as sraue === semiosis_ is now known as semiosis === 14WAB1TAR is now known as vila === ssweeny` is now known as ssweeny === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away [14:31] @pilot in === udevbot_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Trusty Tahr Alpha 2 released! | Archive: open | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> saucy | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: seb128 === xymox is now known as 6JTAA59PZ === xymox_ is now known as xymox === 6JTAA59PZ is now known as xymox === ochosi_ is now known as ochosi [14:46] dholbach: hey! it's just abot releasing ubuntu-ui-toolkit trunk, that upstream needs to request, test and so on… === wcchandl1r is now known as wcchandler === ogasawara_ is now known as ogasawara [14:52] didrocks, cjohnston said that he'd chase it from the CI side [14:52] dholbach: yeah, it's really up to upstream to ask for a release and drive this [14:56] robert_ancell__: it's been a very long time since I've looked at it [14:56] I'd volunteer to review, but with the sprint last week and being on holiday tomorrow, I'm afraid I just don't have time [14:59] ev, np. I think it's mostly abandoned so I'll look at getting permissions and updating it directly === ogasawara is now known as Guest18719 [15:02] * ev nods === rcj` is now known as rcj === ebhtura_ is now known as Guest56697 === Guest36571 is now known as Logan_ === JanC is now known as Guest76616 === Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha [15:51] dobey: does the weird failure in https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/trusty-adt-ubuntuone-storage-protocol/11/ARCH=i386,label=adt/console tell anything to you? [15:51] dobey: "ImportError: cannot import name _net_proto2___python" from trying to import "from google.protobuf.internal import _net_proto2___python" [15:51] pitti: was there a new google protobuf upload? [15:51] dobey: that looks like our protobuf might have gotten broken? [15:52] pitti: yes [15:52] dobey: yes, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/protobuf/2.5.0-5ubuntu1 [15:52] dobey: it's still stuck in -proposed [15:52] pitti: ah, well it least it didn't get magically promoted despite the failure :) [15:53] like twisted did [15:53] pitti: so, looks like a regression in protobuf [15:54] yeah, the new version makes a ton of packages uninstallable (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt) [15:54] dobey: ack, so this failure looks legit; thanks [15:54] run-adt-test -sU ubuntuone-storage-protocol [15:55] that still succeeds (that's not using -proposed) [15:55] pitti: it seems to just be the cpp implementation that broke though [15:55] slangasek: ^ FYI [15:56] pitti: we run the tests with the cpp protobuf python module as well, as we use that on the server side. [15:56] pitti: the python tests passed, and then the attempt to run them with the cpp module failed [15:56] dobey: ah, so perhaps this merely needs a rebuild against the new version, like https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/protobuf-c/0.15-1build1 [15:57] pitti: what needs a rebuild? [15:57] ah no, python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol is arch: all [15:57] right [15:57] I thought you meant that there were some compiled protobufs in there === salem_ is now known as _salem [15:58] no, the protobufs get rebuilt every time with protobuf-compiler, but protobuf has multiple ways of using protobuf in python [15:58] you can use the pure python modules, or the cpp module which is supposed to be faster [15:59] it looks like something broke the cpp module compatibility [15:59] internally in protobuf === xnox_ is now known as xnox === _salem is now known as salem_ === ogasawara_ is now known as ogasawara === timrc is now known as timrc-afk [16:16] pitti, dobey: "the cpp module" - that seems to have been dropped upstream in favor of the pure python one? [16:19] slangasek: then the python-protobuf package is a bit busted, as it keeps the cpp_messgage.py but doesn't modify that to maintain compatibility by simply using the pure python version instead [16:19] and it should if that is the intent [16:20] and probably issue a DeprecationWarning [16:21] dobey: ok, can you file a bug about this and assign it to me for follow-up? === ogasawara is now known as Guest5458 === JanC_ is now known as Guest89590 [16:22] slangasek: i'm curious, did you get an e-mail about ubuntuone-storage-protocol autopilot failing due to your protobuf upload? [16:23] no, our jenkins machinery isn't that clever yet === balloons is now known as Guest54791 [16:23] it sends it to the last uploader of the package that fails === jhenke_ is now known as jhenke [16:23] oh [16:23] very non-clever [16:24] and to me and jibel, so ATM we poke/ask people on failures like that [16:25] hi robert_ancell__ [16:25] currently no one is maintaining activity log manager === timrc-afk is now known as timrc === mapreri is now known as Guest54867 [16:28] seiflotfy__, ok [16:28] robert_ancell__: i can give you access rights if you want [16:28] seiflotfy__, awesome, thanks [16:28] you can take over and merge your stuff [16:28] I am releasing the new zeitgeist later today btw :D [16:29] nice [16:31] slangasek: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/protobuf/+bug/1275826 [16:31] Launchpad bug 1275826 in protobuf (Ubuntu) "Version 2.5.0-5ubuntu1 breaks python code using the cpp module" [Undecided,New] [16:34] * dinh_nguyen === Guest54867 is now known as mapreri____ === Guest5458 is now known as ogasawara === balloons is now known as Guest51231 [17:01] Does anyone know what #define __NR_fanotify_init and #define __NR_fanotify_mark values should be for arm64? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/164564783/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-arm64.clamav_0.98.1%2Bdfsg-1ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz Upstream only provides x86 values. In Debian we added values for the Debian archs, but arm64 isn't currently one of them. === mapreri____ is now known as mapreri [17:04] ScottK: why do you need to shadow these definitions at all? these should come from standard kernel headers === jono is now known as Guest16175 === PaulW2U is now known as Guest17472 [17:06] I'm not sure why upstream started using them. It's in a file that's new this release. [17:06] ScottK: so syscall number definitions should all come from the kernel headers [17:07] slangasek: that's a nice theory which unfortunately isn't always true... we had to do the same kind of trick (ifdef __NR_... + arch-specific defines) in LXC because of some RedHat based distros and Android where some of the newer syscalls are misisng the __NR_ defines... === Ursinha is now known as Guest4888 [17:08] clamav-0.98.1+dfsg/clamd/fan-syscalllib.h is where the code lives. [17:08] (trusty-proposed ATM) === Guest4888 is now known as Ursula [17:08] stgraber: it's fine for an upstream to provide compat definitions for building on older releases, but our kernel headers are right and the upstream should only worry about defining it if not already defined [17:09] I also didn't find them defined in the Ubuntu arm64 kernel. [17:10] ScottK: I find them defined in /usr/include/asm-generic/unistd.h from linux-libc-dev on arm64 [17:10] #define __NR_fanotify_init 262 [17:10] #define __NR_fanotify_mark 263 [17:11] OK. Thanks. [17:11] I must have looked the wrong place in git. [17:11] that's odd, because the upstream .h is including unistd.h so they should have been defined then... [17:11] So the bug is they don't check if it was already defined. [17:12] oh, doh, misread the upstream code, yeah, they should ifdef the __NR_ then if not defined, ifdef the architecture and define them [17:12] s/ifdef the architecture/check the architecture/ === Guest17472 is now known as PaulW2U [17:13] I think I can fix that. Thanks. [17:14] hey you guys, cross building is pretty good [17:16] Riddell, hey, do you have any news about the calligra trusty build? [17:17] Riddell, if that's still blocked, what do you think about removing the current proposed version, upload a no change rebuild of the old one to complete the poppler transition? [17:20] adam_g`: did you notice that your recent python-troveclient is still stuck in -proposed? its autopkgtest fails as the new version doesn't have an /usr/bin/trove-cli any more [17:20] adam_g`: just /usr/bin/trove now; is that the "new" -cli, or something else? [17:21] adam_g`: ah sorry, that was zul === PaulW2U is now known as Guest62881 === Ursula is now known as Ursinha [17:32] seb128: fosdem got in the way, tomorrow I promise [17:32] Riddell, thanks === salem_ is now known as _salem === Guest62881 is now known as PaulW2U === neunon is now known as Guest34825 [18:05] any IRC OP around? [18:06] ubuntu-touch gets spammed [18:06] cjwatson: slangasek: ? [18:06] asac: #ubuntu-irc for irc ops. [18:07] ops are channel-specific [18:07] /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-touch list [18:07] kk [18:07] the guy just wanted attention it seems === manu is now known as seelaman === Guest51231 is now known as balloons === PaulW2U is now known as Guest54842 [18:27] @pilot out === udevbot_ changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Trusty Tahr Alpha 2 released! | Archive: open | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> saucy | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: [18:40] * dholbach hugs seb128 [18:40] * seb128 hugs dholbach back === _salem is now known as salem_ === jono is now known as Guest82971 === mfisch is now known as Guest26806 === TJ- is now known as Guest28207 === hyperair is now known as Guest61598 === Lutin is now known as Guest51230 === IdleOne- is now known as IdleOne === TheLordOfTime is now known as teward [19:15] cjwatson: hmm, so grub-install has been rewritten in C? [19:17] cjwatson: fwiw grub-install --uefi-secure-boot seems to not be working right for me in 2.02~beta2... switched my disk to UEFI when installing in my new laptop (yay), but shim isn't getting installed === Guest34825 is now known as neunon === salem_ is now known as _salem [19:28] has anyone else noticed that Xorg is leaking memory like crazy in trusty? [19:29] dobey: not here [19:29] slangasek: what video driver? [19:29] i'm on intel here [19:30] maybe it's a bug in the driver. [19:32] dobey: intel [19:33] hmm [19:33] 4210 root 20 0 1580884 1.042g 281312 S 0.7 7.1 48:59.29 Xorg [19:36] slangasek: do you use firefox, or chromium? [19:38] dobey: firefox [19:38] slangasek: does it sometimes go crazy and use up 300% of your cpu and refuse to exit, too? [19:38] dobey: no [19:39] rather, I've seen something like that in the past, but I think that was during the saucy dev cycle [19:39] it's been happening quite a lot for me on trusty :( [19:40] dobey, I'm getting constant freezes in FF [19:40] it blames gmail's gtalk javascript [19:40] and i'm not sure how to describe the issues exactly in a bug report, since i don't know how to force the problem to happen [19:40] not sure if that's cause or symptom [19:41] need to restart FF several times a day [19:41] (has only started happening this last week) [19:41] beuno: probably a symptom. at least, i don't actually use the gmail web interface, so i'm pretty sure that's not causing the problem for me, at least [19:42] beuno: i've been having this since i upgraded to trusty. i have to pkill -9 firefox every time i quit it, or sometimes it'll stick around, eat up all my cpu, and complain it's already running when i try to run it again [19:49] maybe compacting all the sqlite in the profile will help… === zz_mwhudson is now known as mwhudson === pcwhite is now known as PaulW2U === Guest76174 is now known as Logan_ === _salem is now known as salem_ === rodarvus` is now known as rodarvus === _TJ_ is now known as TJ- === adam_g` is now known as adam_g === cp is now known as Guest2850 [20:22] dobey: protobuf 2.5.0-5ubuntu2 uploaded. Does ubuntuone-storageprotocol need any other changes to adapt, or just a retry? [20:24] slangasek: if it makes the cpp_message.py just use the pure python, i'd think it just needs a retry, which the new upload should trigger. [20:26] dobey: hum, rather I dropped the cpp_message.py ... since the filename implied it was specific to the cpp module [20:31] slangasek: oh :( [20:32] slangasek: i suspect a lot of packages will need changes then, as pitti said the protobuf upload was causing a lot of build failures === salem_ is now known as _salem [20:33] although the list in the proposed-migration output is a bit weird === _salem is now known as salem_ [20:34] and ironically, ubuntuone-storage-protocol isn't even in that list [20:39] dobey: no, pitti said that the protobuf causes uninstallability issues in trusty - because it's an in-progress transition [20:40] dobey: and ubuntuone-storage-protocol isn't in the list because python-protobuf's package name hasn't changed. If you like, I can have python-protobuf declare a versioned Breaks: on the old ubuntuone-storage-protocol [20:41] slangasek: are we certain that nothing else in the archive is using the cpp module? [20:49] dobey: the only revdeps of the package in the archive are python-protobuf.socketrpc and python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol [20:50] slangasek: i'll remove the usage in u1 and do an upload for it [20:51] dobey: sounds good, thanks [20:53] oh maybe i won't have to [20:54] it handles ImportError already where it tries to import cpp_message [20:54] so it should just work with the new upload [21:01] kees, pitti, slangasek, stgraber: TB? [21:05] hm should I be worried that I picked up a linux 3.11.0-17.30 during upgrades but it doesn't show up in launchpad? [21:08] jtaylor: did you subscribe to this ppa? https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ppa [21:08] no [21:09] I upgraded to that linux on two machines I use [21:10] just noticed because I wanted to run perf but linux-tools for 17 doesn'T exist [21:10] no ppas that provide kernels activated, but I do have proposed on [21:10] ah [21:11] an emergency kernel update last week superceeded a kernel from -proposed, I believe it was deleted to simplify matters [21:11] hm ok, so I better remove the 17 version? [21:11] jtaylor: see e.g. http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2096-1/ -- you may wish to install that kernel manually to patch the hole [21:11] jtaylor: yeah [21:15] dobey: do you want a Breaks: from python-protobuf? Otherwise, I'm going to work on getting mir rebuilt and the library transition done [21:16] slangasek: no, i don't think it is necessary [21:16] dobey: ok [21:17] slangasek: and it looks like the autopkgtest just finished and passed, for ubuntuone-storage-protocol [21:17] dobey: awesomesauce [21:18] and compacting the sqlite didn't help firefox :( [21:18] so that should get us the new protobuf in, just as soon as we manage to find the publisher again [21:25] slangasek: howdy! are you on archive admin duty today? [21:26] slangasek: can you please process crochet and maas-test from the trusty NEW queue, if you are? [21:26] roaksoax: ah, we've more or less stopped having archive days, but I can have a look [21:26] roaksoax: (basically, you can ping any AA if you need NEW help) [21:27] slangasek: I see! Cool! And thank you! === tlyu_ is now known as tlyu === mnepton is now known as mneptok === beisner- is now known as beisner === ev_ is now known as ev === jasoncwarner__ is now known as jasoncwarner === timrc_ is now known as timrc [21:49] roaksoax: maas-test doesn't include the text of the license; for AGPL-3 you have to include the whole license text, it's not one of the licenses in common-licenses [21:49] slangasek: ok, thanks for pointing that out. I'll get that fix! [21:49] roaksoax: also, please use compat level 9, not the (ancient) 7 === SpamapS_ is now known as SpamapS [21:50] (with corresponding fix to the versioned build-dep0 [21:50] ) [21:51] roaksoax: if this is all new code, why is it python2 instead of python3? === sam113101 is now known as YOURBESTFRIEND [21:51] slangasek: so copyright should include all this document? http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.txt [21:51] slangasek: cause MAAS is still python2 and this is only to test MAAS [21:52] slangasek: it will support python3 once MAAS does too [21:53] ah, it imports apiclient, ok [21:53] roaksoax: and yeah, that's the correct license to be included [22:10] slangasek: ok uploaded a new maas-test package [22:13] hrm, why is someone changing the moderator password for the techboard list? [22:13] slangasek: mistake, see #is [22:14] ah, k === Guest26806 is now known as mfisch === mfisch is now known as Guest58615 === dspiteri is now known as DarrenS === salem_ is now known as _salem === beuno_ is now known as beuno === 5EXAAH0BV is now known as bradm [23:04] roaksoax: minor bug, not a blocker for new, crochet debian/copyright lists a wrong copyright; Gavin wouldn't be a copyright holder here, certainly not with an @canonical.com contact address :) [23:05] slangasek: ok :). Thanks for taking care of it though! :) [23:21] hm, i have a cgmanager.8, and debian/cgmanager.manpages contains "cgmanager.8". So why does it get installed as cgmanager.1? [23:23] hallyn: What does the header in the manpage itself say? [23:24] hallyn: pass -s 8 to help2man [23:24] infinity: oh heh, thanks [23:24] stgraber: yup, thanks. [23:39] Could somene look at the arm64 and ppc64el errors on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcl/2.6.10-1 === Guest58615 is now known as mfisch === mfisch is now known as Guest64422