[07:13] <infinity> slangasek: Yeah, I think that would be a sane thing to do.  It's advertised a lot of places as The Right Tool, so if there are things it doesn't do that checkrdepends can, I think fixing those bugs/misfeatures and publishing our own cache would be the right thing.
[11:17]  * cjwatson waives one day of the waiting period for the various fglrx-ish updates in precise, for the sake of 12.04.4
[11:40] <cjwatson> precise images now building only from -updates
[11:41] <cjwatson> (well, and -security; not -proposed, is the point)
[12:08] <cjwatson> stgraber: Do I need to do anything to get images to appear in the "Precise 12.04.4" milestone I just created in the tracker, or is just rebuilding sufficient?
[15:35] <stgraber> cjwatson: did you tick the "publish based on manifest" option?
[15:36] <cjwatson> I don't think I saw it ...
[15:36] <stgraber> looks like you did
[15:36] <cjwatson> ah yes, I did, I copied everything from .3
[15:36] <cjwatson> so that should work?
[15:36] <stgraber> ok, so yeah, a rebuild should get stuff to show up in the new milestone
[15:37] <cjwatson> great, thanks
[16:01] <cjwatson> full set of precise image builds running
[16:02] <cjwatson> the only thing I still know of that definitely ought to go in is partman-crypto, but that's only in a subset of images
[16:02] <cjwatson> so we might as well start testing other -proposed-free images
[16:29] <zul> can someone promote python-sure please (#1251366) python-httpretty is in depwait because of it
[16:41] <infinity> zul: Done.
[18:38] <stgraber> cjwatson: we're missing the usual change to LTSP for the backport kernels (affects ubuntu alternate 12.04.4), I'll upload the usual change now
[18:41] <stgraber> uploaded
[19:10] <ogra_> is there anything known to be wrong with the archive atm ?
[19:10] <ogra_> seems ubuntu-touch is uninstallable all of a sudden
[19:10] <ogra_> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/trusty/ubuntu-touch/20140203.2/livecd-armhf.out
[19:10]  * didrocks tries on his phone to dist-upgade since last promoted image
[19:10] <ogra_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:10] <ogra_>  ubuntu-touch : Depends: ubuntu-sdk-libs but it is not going to be installed
[19:10] <ogra_> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[19:11] <ogra_> since there were no seed changes, nor changes to meta that is a bit weird
[19:11] <didrocks> The following packages have been kept back:
[19:11] <didrocks>   ubuntu-html5-container
[19:11] <didrocks> if I try to dist-upgrade
[19:11] <didrocks> let me dist-upgrade
[19:11] <ogra_> aha
[19:11] <didrocks> and try to apt-get install it then
[19:12] <ogra_>   [ Alexandre Abreu ]
[19:12] <ogra_>   * fix sdk package for now bc unity-webapps-qml hasn't been uploaded
[19:12] <ogra_>     yet.
[19:12] <ogra_> there you go
[19:12] <ogra_> ubuntu-html5-theme (0.1+14.04.20140203-0ubuntu1) trusty; urgency=low
[19:13]  * didrocks wonders who acked that
[19:13] <ogra_> that seems to have been uploaded but is not in the archive yet
[19:13] <didrocks> and who reviewed
[19:13] <didrocks> hum
[19:13] <ogra_>  ubuntu-html5-theme | 0.1+14.04.20140107-0ubuntu1 | trusty/universe | all
[19:13] <ogra_>  ubuntu-html5-theme | 0.1+14.04.20140203-0ubuntu1 | trusty/universe | source
[19:14] <ogra_> i guess once thats in the image will build again
[19:15] <ogra_> still it would be intresting to know why proposed-migration did not catch it with ubuntu-html5-theme 0.1+14.04.20140201.1-0ubuntu1
[19:15] <didrocks> yeah
[19:15] <didrocks> but seb still can't install latest version
[19:15] <ogra_> (which seems to have introduced the breakage)
[19:16] <didrocks> ogra_: no, the new one doesn't fix the issue
[19:16] <ogra_> didrocks, oh ?
[19:16] <didrocks> yeah
[19:17] <ogra_> hmm
[19:17] <didrocks> and I wonder how that was acked
[19:17]  * ogra_ too
[19:17] <ogra_> and i still wonder why proposed-migration didnt block it ... we havent had such a case in ages and ages
[19:18] <ogra_> cjwatson, please see backlog
[19:19] <seb128> ogra_, the proposed-migration don't ensure random set of packages are co-installables
[19:19]  * didrocks really wonders, I was really explicit this morning that if there is a packaging change, nobody not having rights from my team can publish
[19:19] <seb128> not sure if the touch image is a set for britney
[19:19] <ogra_> i think it is for germinate ... so it should be for britney too
[19:21] <slangasek> britney doesn't care about "sets" either; it cares about installable packages
[19:21] <ogra_> well, proposed-migration
[19:21] <seb128> ubuntu-touch -> ubuntu-sdk-libs -> ubuntu-html5-container -> ubuntu-html5-sdk -> ubuntu-html5-theme
[19:21] <slangasek> if you want britney to care about co-installability, it can be expressed as a metapackage
[19:21] <ogra_> which we have
[19:22] <seb128> or ubuntu-html5-theme got dropped by that update
[19:22] <ogra_> yeah
[19:22] <ogra_> without updating the seeds
[19:22] <slangasek> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/trusty_probs.html doesn't show any installability problem for these packages on armhf
[19:24] <didrocks> slangasek: from my phone: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6868851/
[19:24] <ogra_> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.trusty ... doesnt have any merge proposals to drop ubuntu-html5-theme
[19:24] <ogra_> but two links to the bugs that brought it in
[19:24] <slangasek> didrocks: when running what command?
[19:24]  * ogra_ wonders if someone introducces a recommends in a touch package ... 
[19:24] <ogra_> *introduced
[19:24] <slangasek> again, that looks like a case where the set you want co-installable isn't expressed as a metapackage
[19:25] <ogra_> that might cause such issues
[19:25] <slangasek> so britney doesn't block it
[19:25] <ogra_> touch images are still built with --no-install-recommends
[19:27] <didrocks> ok
[19:27] <didrocks> same rules than anyone else
[19:27]  * didrocks reverts
[19:27] <didrocks> to the latest published version in the release pocket
[19:28]  * slangasek nods
[19:28] <slangasek> which package actually changed that needs reverting?
[19:29] <seb128> slangasek, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/164717845/ubuntu-html5-theme_0.1%2B14.04.20140107-0ubuntu1_0.1%2B14.04.20140203-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[19:29] <seb128> that drops ubuntu-html5-theme
[19:29] <seb128> which causes the issue it seems
[19:29] <seb128> $ LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get install ubuntu-html5-theme ubuntu-html5-container
[19:29] <seb128>  ubuntu-html5-container : Depends: ubuntu-html5-ui-toolkit (= 0.1+14.04.20140203-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[19:29] <ogra_> yeah
[19:30] <ogra_> but there is no binary of that in the archive according to rmadison ...
[19:30]  * ogra_ is confused
[19:30] <seb128> ogra_, it got dropped in the diff I just pointed
[19:30] <slangasek> ogra_: eh?  ubuntu-html5-ui-toolkit | 0.1+14.04.20140203-0ubuntu1 | trusty/universe | all
[19:31] <ogra_> oh
[19:31] <seb128> slangasek, ubuntu-html5-theme
[19:31] <seb128> ogra_, we had a few version that weres stucked in trusty-proposed
[19:31] <seb128> today's upload unblocked the backlog
[19:31] <ogra_> ok
[19:31] <seb128> didrocks is reverting to 20140107-0ubuntu1
[19:31] <seb128> is there anyone staying around?
[19:31] <ogra_> yeah, sounds about right
[19:31] <seb128> we are left alone in the London office, everybody left for dinner
[19:32] <slangasek> why was it blocked so long in -proposed?
[19:32]  * seb128 is staying there with desrt and larsu to not let didrocks work/eat alone again
[19:32] <slangasek> anyway, I'm back on Pacific time if you want to hand off to me
[19:32] <slangasek> but please tell me what's needed
[19:32] <didrocks> thanks guys, appreciated
[19:32] <seb128> slangasek, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/164702230/ubuntu-html5-theme_0.1%2B14.04.20140201.1-0ubuntu1_0.1%2B14.04.20140203-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[19:33] <seb128> slangasek, that change suggests buggy depends
[19:33] <seb128> which probably made britney block it
[19:33] <seb128> they fixed that issue today
[19:33] <ogra_> slangasek, a revert of that package and then the touch image build we actually needed to verify another revert from before
[19:33] <slangasek> seb128: it may suggest that, but it's not true; unity-webapps-qml does exist in trusty
[19:33] <seb128> ogra_, slangasek: didrocks is about to upload the revert, can you drive the image build?
[19:33] <seb128> slangasek, right, qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-webapps-api doesn't
[19:33] <ogra_> i could for another 30min ... probably 1h
[19:34] <slangasek> seb128: ahright, ok
[19:34] <seb128> slangasek, which is what they changed today, replaced the Depends on qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-webapps-api by unity-webapps-qml
[19:34] <ogra_> depends how long the package needs to go through the infra...
[19:34] <slangasek> ogra_: please hand it off to me.  It just needs me to hand-trigger the command from cronjob once the package is available, yes?
[19:34] <ogra_> right
[19:34] <seb128> ogra_, well, we are taking didrocks off by force, so you guys are going to need to deal with kicking an image build ;-)
[19:34] <seb128> slangasek, thanks
[19:35] <didrocks>   Uploading ubuntu-html5-theme_0.1+14.04.20140203.is.0.1+14.04.20140107-0ubuntu1_source.changes: done.
[19:35]  * ogra_ hugs didrocks 
[19:35] <asac> didrocks: you rock. now go off and delegate someone to build the image once done
[19:36] <asac> like ogra
[19:36] <asac> :)
[19:36] <seb128> ogra_, slangasek: I still don't understand how britney let that through
[19:36] <ogra_> asac, slangasek took over so i dont need to work to long if the package takes time
[19:36] <ogra_> seb128, yeah
[19:36] <seb128> ubuntu-touch Depends on ubuntu-sdk-libs which Depends on ubuntu-html5-theme
[19:36]  * didrocks hugs ogra_ back
[19:36] <ogra_> :)
[19:37] <seb128> which got dropped by that upload
[19:37] <didrocks> asac: well, thanks the guys staying with me at the office
[19:37] <asac> didrocks: oh you are at least 1h behind :)
[19:37] <slangasek> seb128: that only means the package is NBS and out-of-date in trusty, but rmadison shows the binary is still present
[19:38] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/ubuntu-html5-theme/0.1+14.04.20140201.1-0ubuntu1 definitely never made it out of proposed though
[19:39] <didrocks> thanks slangasek for the next incoming image. Let's hope that one will be the right one
[19:39] <seb128> ogra_, right, it was depending on qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-webapps-api which is not in trusty
[19:39] <ogra_> right
[19:39] <seb128> ok, time to go here
[19:40] <seb128> slangasek, thanks for taking on the image build!
[19:40] <seb128> have a good evening everyone
[19:40] <slangasek> seb128: piece o' cake - y'all have a nice dinner
[19:40] <slangasek> didrocks: ^^ ;)
[19:40] <didrocks> slangasek: thanks :)
[19:53] <chrisccoulson> hi cjwatson
[19:53] <chrisccoulson> i've just seen your mail about 12.04.4
[19:53] <chrisccoulson> i've got some great news for you. there's a firefox update tomorrow ;)
[20:23] <slangasek> touch respinning now
[21:02] <mdeslaur> is the publisher down?
[21:03] <stgraber> slangasek, infinity: cjwatson doesn't appear to be around, so if one of you could review ltsp in precise-proposed, that'd be great. That's the usual ltsp change we forget every time we change the enablement stack and without it, LTSP on Ubuntu Alternate will be broken...
[21:03] <slangasek> stgraber: after the meeting?
[21:04] <stgraber> sure
[21:06] <slangasek> touch image build still failed, I'm trying to see why
[21:10] <slangasek> mdeslaur: publisher down> looks suspiciously like...
[21:30] <slangasek> stgraber: ltsp accepted; but you didn't include a bug ref, so I guess this should just be promoted to -updates as soon as it builds considering we can prove its correctness with just eyeballing anyway
[21:31] <stgraber> slangasek: that was the idea, yes
[21:32] <stgraber> and once it lands, we'll want ubuntu alternate and edubuntu rebuilt (the first because it requires the fix, the latter because we don't like releasing milestones that ship out of date LTSP).
[21:33] <infinity> stgraber: I think Colin mentioned a pending d-i fix, so respins seem inevitable anyway.
[21:33] <infinity> Oh, but edubuntu is live, I guess?  Well, you know how to press the button you wrote. ;)
[21:33] <stgraber> ah good, then we can wait for the d-i fix