[07:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Beldar: Cute comma :)
[07:32] <FuLgOrE> Hi. Is anybody working on the N5 image at the moment? Is anybody working on the sound and wifi issue?
[07:32] <FuLgOrE> And have anybody seen rsalveti?
[07:47] <SonikkuAmerica> FuLgOrE: The N5 image is no longer official, and I can't say whether or not it's being actively developed, but my guess is not at present...
[07:49] <FuLgOrE> SonikkuAmerica: I know that is not official but there is an inofficial image. I'm using that already. The guy who made that image also use a N5 now so I was hoping that he is working on that at the weekend.
[10:00] <davmor2_> Morning all
[10:01] <FuLgOrE_> It's 6 pm here, nice evening
[10:05] <FuLgOrE_> what's going on with freenode today...
[11:45] <UTouchUser> I have script on Ubuntu Touch that connects the device to a particular WLAN acccess point. This is done with the command iwconfig wlan0 essid $ESSID. However, after some while the device automatically connects to another access point. Have you any idea why?
[12:13] <sil2100> didrocks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart-app-launch/+bug/1275017
[14:04] <sil2100> bfiller: hello!
[14:04] <sil2100> bfiller: two things - first, I'm working on a cleanup branch for the OSK, but it's still in progress
[14:04] <sil2100> bfiller: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/ubuntu-keyboard/cleanup_code_and_packaging/+merge/204493
[14:05] <bfiller> sil2100: hello
[14:05] <sil2100> bfiller: the second thing... we released dialer-app and as you already said, it sadly did not fix the dialer-app crasher we're getting on autopilot smoketesting
[14:05] <sil2100> bfiller: could you poke someone to look into that crasher?
[14:06] <bfiller> sil2100: yeah, we've been looking at the crash for some time now and cannot figure it out
[14:06] <bfiller> sil2100: it's not reproducible on the device
[14:06] <bfiller> not really sure how to proceed
[14:07] <bfiller> the stack trace didn't have anything relevant
[14:10] <sil2100> bfiller: yeah, that's a complicated one it seems, not sure what to do as well in this case - strangely on smoketesting it happens like every-time
[14:11] <sil2100> bfiller: maybe there's something special in the way smoketesting starts those tests, not sure?
[14:13] <mpt> Laney (or anyone else), are you familiar with the work to implement a connectivity API? Is there a bug report for it?
[14:13] <mpt> I don鈥檛 see it in <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono>
[14:13] <bfiller> sil2100: It must be something like specific to the env
[14:18] <Laney> mpt: seb128 says Wellark is working on that
[14:21] <kenvandine> tedg, good morning!
[14:22] <kenvandine> tedg, good news... i pulled your latest untrusted-helper branch and i can no longer reproduce that problem
[14:26] <fermulator> Hey all, I've been recently researching the status of "Ubuntu Phone" -- strongly considering switching. However I can't seem to get a handle on A) the list of currently functioning applications, and B) if the mail client supports connectivity with work/office life. (i.e. I currently have a blackberry, other coworkers have android/iphone, can I switch to Ubuntu Phone today and access my work e-mail/calendar?)
[15:01] <ssj> anyone got touch with multirom
[15:12] <lool> bregma: ah hey there too
[15:12] <lool> bregma: I found this thread on high DPI handling in GNOME interesting and used this occasion to dive into the reasons for hardcoding 96dpi in GNOME stack; https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2014-February/msg00009.html
[15:13] <lool> bregma: the last email with pointers from Emmanuel Basi was worth the read
[15:14] <lool> they point out the obvious issues with DPI / physical size handling (that you also need to account for the viewing angle/distance), some less obvious X issue (one screen multiple outputs and also dealing with moving windows between outputs) and some awful issues about real hardware
[15:15] <lool> I'm a bit sad about the hardware stories they relate and about the decision of throwing the towel, but I'm hoping that perhaps we can at least whitelist some devices correctly; either as upstream or not patches or as a startup helper that would fix this before displaying anything
[15:20] <bregma> proper high-DPI handling is still in its infancy, like colour matching was 20 years ago, with all kinds of real problems and wrong solutions
[15:21] <mardy> kenvandine: hi! Do you have some time for a question about the HUB?
[15:21] <kenvandine> sure
[15:22] <kenvandine> mardy, ^^
[15:22] <mardy> kenvandine: so, in Online Accounts we want to be able to run account plugins which come installed in click packages
[15:22] <lool> bregma: sure, albeit we need to compromise for decent high-res 14.04 support  :-)
[15:22] <bregma> lool, very much so
[15:23] <mardy> kenvandine: in the HUB, I guess you have a similar case where you want to run the applications providing the content
[15:23] <mardy> kenvandine: how do you do that? With aa-exec-click?
[15:23] <kenvandine> upstart-app-launch
[15:24] <kenvandine> we use the lib
[15:24] <kenvandine> provides an api for starting and stopping
[15:24] <mardy> kenvandine: right, because in your case they are regular apps... I wonder how it would work for accounts
[15:24] <kenvandine> so it runs it based on the appid
[15:25] <kenvandine> mardy,  so for UOA you need to run a process that provides the service right?
[15:25] <kenvandine> which runs as a confined app? shouldn't it be a trusted helper?
[15:26] <mardy> kenvandine: right, yes and no: the account plugin cannot be trusted, so the online-accounts-ui trusted helper will run it under confinement
[15:28] <kenvandine> mardy, so maybe tedg's untrusted helpers?
[15:28] <kenvandine> which isn't merged yet
[15:29] <mardy> kenvandine: sounds insteresting, let me try to find it...
[15:29] <kenvandine> but it's designed so you could provide an untrusted helper that figures out the exec line to use
[15:29] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/upstart-app-launch/untrusted-helper/+merge/202703
[15:29] <kenvandine> mardy, ^^
[15:29] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/infographic-service/bootstrapping/+merge/202747
[15:34] <mardy> kenvandine: if I understand correctly, all the untrusted helpers of the same type (would "online-accounts" be a type in this case?) will be run under the same apparmor profile, which is now what I want
[15:36] <mardy> kenvandine: well, I guess I can do like the content hub does, and require plugins to ship a .desktop file (if that's required for using upstart-app-launch)
[15:41] <kenvandine> mardy, for untrusted-helpers, you don't need a desktop file
[15:41] <kenvandine> you just need a way to build the exec line
[15:41] <kenvandine> and set APP_EXEC
[15:42] <kenvandine> it uses the helper to set that
[15:42] <kenvandine> mardy, would it need to be able to create a surface? i assume not... it would actually poke signon-ui for that
[15:42] <kenvandine> or the new version of that
[15:43] <mardy> kenvandine: no, it really needs to create a surface
[15:43] <kenvandine> mardy, ok... that would be harder... but Mir won't let you with an untrusted-helper
[15:43] <kenvandine> mardy, have a chat with ted... he might have ideas
[15:44] <mardy> kenvandine: yes, I think the account plugins need to be part of the trusted session
[15:44] <kenvandine> absolutely!
[15:44] <kenvandine> but you need a way to exec them... so you could just make desktop files for them with the right profile
[15:44] <mardy> kenvandine: yep, I might use this then
[15:45] <davmor2> barry: system-image does it actually detect if you are on wifi or not?  In settings if you make sure it says autodownload on wifi only, disable wifi so the device is only on 3g it still autodownloads when there is an image available :(
[15:45] <mardy> kenvandine: so, if I want to pass parameters (such as a unix socket to connect to), I need to encode them as URLs, right?
[15:46] <kenvandine> yeah
[15:51] <barry> davmor2: no, system-image doesn't make that determination.  at one point it was supposed to happen in system-settings.  maybe it doesn't though :/
[15:53] <ogra_> davmor2, i filed a bug for that last week
[15:53] <ogra_> (since barry asked me to :) )
[16:07] <ogra_> davmor2, bug 1274215
[17:02] <xnox> popey: dholbach: why are the reviews manual, and not automatic? plus those error messages appear to be generated.
[17:03] <dholbach> xnox, automatic reviews are in the works
[17:03] <xnox> popey: dholbach: also neither of those options are available in saucy, are they? so webapps that use those command line options are broken on saucy / stable.
[17:03] <dholbach> xnox, I have no idea about that
[17:03] <xnox> popey: dholbach: so i should be bumping the spec/dependencies on the webapps/webrowser framework.
[17:03] <xnox> popey: dholbach: or saucy should get an SRU to not error out on those options (make them dummy)
[17:04] <xnox> popey: dholbach: the result of the check is wrong, i'm using old-style "webbrowser-app" exec line, not the new style "webapp-container"
[17:05] <xnox> popey: dholbach: the old one allows running the apps just fine (and actually executes webapp-container underneath)
[17:05] <dholbach> xnox, aha!
[17:05] <xnox> popey: dholbach: since my apps actually do work on trusty, please accept them as is and improve the automatic checks about parameters to be applied against webapp-container.
[17:07] <TGMCians> hey
[17:09] <dholbach> xnox, filed bug 1275844
[17:10] <shiggitay> anyone available to help me troubleshoot a non UT issue?
[17:14] <shiggitay> no one?
[17:14] <ogra_> shiggitay, non touch related ubuntu issues should go to #ubuntu
[17:15] <shiggitay> it's not even a Linux issue
[17:28] <Guest55686> hey
[17:28] <Guest55686> Does anyone know here about RILD (Radio Interface Layer)?
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[18:06] <Naglfar> Someone ?
[18:06] <Someone> Finally
[18:06] <slangasek> Someone: not appropriate
[18:06] <Someone> I know
[18:06] <Someone> ...
[18:07] <slangasek> do you have a question?
[18:07] <Someone> Yes
[18:07] <slangasek> best practice is to ask your question
[18:07] <Someone> Is touch coming to older devices like s3 or s2?
[18:07] <slangasek> meaning samsung galaxy s2/s3?
[18:07] <Someone> Yes
[18:07] <asac> Someone: canonical is unlikely to invest into those ports directly, but there are xda folks etc. that might pick it up etc.
[18:08] <slangasek> I know there's a community port to at least one of the s3 flavors
[18:08] <asac> Someone: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices there is a llong list of
[18:08] <Someone> I know but xda got only version what doesnt support cellular network
[18:08] <asac> devices and folks that said they were once working on it
[18:08] <asac> so check with those folks there
[18:09] <asac> but be nice and professional, not like above
[18:10] <Someone> it still doesnt work properly
[18:10] <Someone> Still problems with network
[18:11] <Someone> What the hell do i do with phone what with i cant call or send sms?
[18:11] <dobey> smash it with a hammer
[18:11] <Someone> Yeah
[18:11] <Someone> Throw it away
[18:12] <Someone> Why do you even let people download your broken operating system?
[18:12] <Someone> And idiots who doesnt understand shit about phones and can unbrick it
[18:12] <Someone> cant*
[18:12] <dobey> if you have a problem with something from xda developers, you should ask on the xda developers site
[18:12] <Someone> No
[18:12] <Someone> Its in ubuntus website
[18:14] <dobey> a) it doesn't support every device b) it is in development still. if you don't like it, then flash android back on your device. don't go spamming irc channels
[19:09] <JoseeAntonioR> didrocks: hey, around?
[19:16] <om26er> I cannot see unity in the emulator, I get to phablet prompt but I only see black screen on the emulator
[19:18] <ogra_> om26er, how long did you wait
[19:18] <ogra_> om26er, first boot takes at least 10min
[19:18] <om26er> ogra_, probably more than 8-9 minutes, (its still waiting)
[19:18] <mandel> om26er, patience, takes some time
[19:19] <ogra_> om26er, give it time :)
[19:19] <ogra_> subsequent boots are a little better
[19:19] <om26er> ogra_, is it normal that the prompt hangs ?
[19:19] <mandel> mhall119, small question, do you know what project deals with the contacts in the phone??
[19:21] <mhall119> mandel: what do you mean by "deals with"?
[19:21] <mhall119> do you want the contacts app project on LP?
[19:21] <mandel> mhall119, yes, that sounds about right :)
[19:21] <mhall119> mandel: https://launchpad.net/address-book-app
[19:21] <mandel> mhall119, I'm wondering if there is a way to access those contacts from another app
[19:22] <mhall119> yeah
[19:22] <mhall119> http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/QtContacts/
[19:23] <mhall119> it needs ContentHub provider for contacts which may not exist yet
[19:23] <mandel> mhall119, oh! ok
[19:24] <mandel> mhall119, is not my main issue right now :)
[19:39] <dholbach> can somebody review https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-html5-theme-examples/+merge/204562 please (I discussed the change with dbarth)
[19:40] <ogra_> dholbach, that will remove it from touch, is that wanted ?
[19:40] <didrocks> no seed change right now please
[19:40] <didrocks> tomorrow :p
[19:40] <dholbach> bzoltan, ^ the change was fine with you too, right? (making ubuntu-html5-theme-examples a recommends instead of depends)
[19:40] <ogra_> (touch images are built with --no-install-recommands)
[19:40] <dholbach> dbarth_, ^
[19:41] <ogra_> yeah, and all merges/uploads regarding touch are blocked now
[19:41] <dholbach> ogra_, I guess for the images that should be fine
[19:41] <ogra_> since the last ubuntu-html5-themes upload made the archive explode
[19:41] <dholbach> ogra_, it'd be more something for developers who install the sdk on their laptop/desktop
[19:41] <ogra_> then thats fine indeed
[19:41] <dholbach> more space on the device ;-)
[19:42] <ogra_> dholbach, right ... just nothing to boot to either :P
[19:42] <ogra_> ubuntu-touch got uninstallable :)
[19:46] <dbarth_> ok
[19:54] <om26er> ogra_, its still waiting :D
[19:54] <om26er> black screen
[19:54] <om26er> is there any config that I should clean so that the next time i start the emulator everything happens from the beginning
[19:55] <ogra_> hmm, not sure, it changed a lot since i touched it last
[19:55] <ogra_> (and sergio is not around today, he maintains the startup stuff for it)
[20:00] <Elleo> my n9 appears to be on it's last legs :( time to switch to ubuntu touch as my day to day phone :)
[20:05] <Hourd> Elleo: :)
[20:06] <Elleo> oh, hey Hourd :)
[20:06] <Elleo> how was FOSDEM?
[20:06] <Hourd> was really good thanks :) had a great time, lost of interesting talks
[20:07] <Elleo> cool
[20:23] <bzoltan> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6866549/
[21:16] <Willman> hey guys
[21:18] <Willman> hey
[21:19] <Willman> i wanna know if my htc beat one it's able to install Ubuntu?
[21:26] <Willman> i here people just quit and join and dont say nothing
[21:31] <greyback> Willman: here is the list of devices currently supported, and those community supported: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[21:31] <Willman> thks
[21:31] <Willman> i will try it
[23:10] <phommata> i was looking into install ubuntu touch on the galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition just so that i can compile and run c++ programs but there is c4droid available in the play store
[23:54] <harris> hi is the nexus 7 2013 getting 14.04