[00:01] <prayer> I have been at this going on 3 days now, can't get it to work, have done multiple reinstall of my os, I really am getting desperate. Please help anyone...
[00:03] <zykotick9> prayer: to bad backbox isn't supported here...
[00:03] <casual_boot> is 12.10 still supported?
[00:04] <casual_boot> oh, it is in the topic.
[00:04] <prayer> it's ubuntu based, should'nt a solution for ubuntu work for back box?
[00:04] <VINCENZO> ciao
[00:05] <prayer> if not can you point me in the right direction?
[00:05] <VINCENZO> !list
[00:05] <hewhomust> lol
[00:05] <casual_boot> Well I still have trouble making 12.10 64bit NOT to use 2 RAM regions.  memmap= is allowed to be used only once in /etc/default/grub and GRUB_BADRAM= seems like not recognized (I still see all memory available)
[00:06] <vanishing> prayer: as you can see here: http://www.backbox.org/about
[00:06] <vanishing> backbox is not a product of ubuntu, nor is it supported by ubuntu
[00:07] <vanishing> I think your best shot is to post on their community
[00:08] <vanishing> or chat with them: under their community page
[00:08] <prayer> :( ok thank you
[00:08] <vanishing> np:) good luck
[00:14] <Styles> Hey guys, randomly the other day my laptop decided to reset the gfx drivers AND gnome 3 isn't running (it's defaulting to the old ubuntu interface)
[00:14] <Styles> Any ideas how to check why or resolve it? I looked in dmesg, kern logs
[00:14] <stormzen> I'm trying to get Read Aloud working for AcroRead9 on LTS 12.04.4 ... The setting are greyed out when I look at edit preferences.  Does anyone know how to fix this?  Also, I just installed steam, and there appears to be no sound.
[00:16] <casual_boot> I see badram is added to /boot/grub/grub.cfg. is this OK if I want to take out 2 128MB regions? ::  badram 0x10000000,0xf7000000,0x30000000,0xf7000000 :: ?
[00:17] <Aossi> omg ubuntu finally took
[00:18] <Aossi> and its so sexy now that i have the display semi fixed
[00:18] <casual_boot> 0xf7000000 supposed to be binary mask between 0x10000000 and +128MiB (0x18000000)
[00:18] <Aossi> how do i keep the display where its at now so that as i reboot and shit i dont have to fix it every time
[00:19] <casual_boot> If I understood it corectly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BadRAM#BADRAM_setting_in_Grub2
[00:20] <SomeDamnBody> what package do I install to get qt4.8?
[00:21] <wigust> Hello. What I need to change if I want to copy ubuntu from one pc to another? fstab & grub-mkconfig?
[00:26] <Aossi_> hey can i have some help?
[00:27] <Aossi_> any one?
[00:32] <casual_boot_> is badram GRUB2 setting supposed to take away masked RAM from available RAM in Linux after booting?
[00:33] <casual_boot_> because it does not on 7.10 ...
[00:41] <ubuntunewserver> how do I login to a wifi network on a ubuntu server with no GUI? Ideally would like connection to occur automatically in the future as well.
[00:45] <lickalott_> can someone help me please?  I'm out of tricks and google is just getting repetitive at this point.
[00:45] <lickalott_> I only have 2 options for screen resolution
[00:45] <lickalott_> no matter what i've done i can't get more options.
[00:45] <lickalott_> i'll gladly answer any questions as to what I've done already (so i don't have to throw hours of troubleshooting into 25 paragraphs)
[01:34] <23LAAZI9B> Does anyone know of a reliable note program?  Something with automated cloud backup?  Something like Evernote maybe?  Getting really tired of losing data...
[01:38] <qin> 23LAAZHS1: google calendar, integrated with thunderbird.
[01:40] <Cradan> qin, google keep is more specifically suited
[01:44] <jonathan2> hey, i've installed a printer driver and cups happily adds the printer. when i "print test page", cups reports success but the printer doesn't print anything. lubuntu 13.10, canon mf3010. cups log doesn't seem to say anything useful.
[01:45] <daftykins> jonathan2: anything on the printer display?
[01:45] <jonathan2> it may be blinking, but i'm not sure if it's related. there's just an 8-segment lcd showing either a "1" or a "-"
[01:49] <jonathan2> i've read through this discussion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2089269 seems very relevant, but none of the things mentioned there fixes my issue. there are two people at the end of the thread who also say they're having this issue on 13.x
[01:49] <jonathan2> i guess it's possible that there's been some regression between 12 and 13
[01:52] <daftykins> jonathan2: my first thought would be queue name, be it LPR
[01:52] <daftykins> or RAW
[02:18] <Aossi> o.o
[02:18] <Aossi> fuck yea
[02:18] <Aossi> pidgin works
[02:19] <IdleOne> No swearing please
[02:19] <Aossi> can some one help me get a working windows emulator so i can use .exe files like mush client
[02:21] <mz`> install wine
[02:22] <Vivekananda> I am getting connection timeout for so many channels today. Never happened to me ever. Something wrong with ubuntu 12.04 ? or with irc ?
[02:22] <rww> Vivekananda: freenode's being wonky
[02:26] <fortest1989> is this channel alive ?
[02:47] <dupingping>  Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS: how to install to my partition?
[02:48] <holstein> !install | dupingping
[02:48] <Guest14288> freenode had a big conniption
[02:48] <dupingping> when use the wubi,
[02:48] <dupingping> on windows
[02:49] <hitsujiTMO> dupingping: dont use wubi
[02:49] <dupingping> yes?
[02:53] <dupingping> wubi create root.img on ntfs filesystem, but I want to install on formatted ext3fs not image.
[02:54] <hitsujiTMO> dupingping: don't use wubi. boot the cd and install normally
[02:55] <tunage> what would cause sshd to fail to log to syslog?  my /var/log/auth.log  is empty
[02:56] <hitsujiTMO> tunage: is /var/log/auth.log not writable?
[02:58] <tunage> hitsujiTMO it's 775 and www-data:www-data
[02:59] <tunage> # Logging
[02:59] <tunage> SyslogFacility AUTH
[02:59] <tunage> LogLevel INFO
[02:59] <hitsujiTMO> how the hell did /var/log/auth.log get owned by www-data???
[03:00] <hitsujiTMO> tunage: delete it and restart syslog
[03:00] <tunage> hitsujiTMO that the default. basically a new install. whats the syslog user?
[03:00] <tunage> hitsujiTMO what is the logging restart command?
[03:01] <hitsujiTMO> thats not the default at all. its 640 syslog:adm
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> tunage: try: sudo service rsyslog restart
[03:03] <tunage> hitsujiTMO thank you!
[03:29] <elkclone>  /close
[03:38] <Agamemnus> Hello everyone, including 31NAAEFPA
[03:38] <Agamemnus> what's shaking
[03:41] <Gerowen> Anybody know why, when I open an XCF image I have saved, I'm unable to do anything to it?  I can use the toolbox to make changes, but most menu options get grayed out.  I can't export, use filters, etc.  I've deleted the .gimp-2.8 folder and re-opened it, didn't help.  I can modify existing .png and .jpg images, just not this .xcf one.
[03:42] <cjwelborn> Gerowen: check the file permissions.
[03:42] <cjwelborn> stat myimage.xcf
[03:43] <cjwelborn> if you have access, you may need to set it to read/write. chmod +rw myimage.xcf .. or if needed: sudo chmod a+rw myimage.xcf  ..this would let everyone read/write it though.
[03:50] <toadie> so,... a big netsplit?
[04:08] <Captain_Matrix> hah ubuntu ops are afk or something ?
[04:09] <Captain_Matrix> see all the bots in her ? :P
[04:22] <manikanta> hey
[04:32] <wilbur21> uptime
[04:33] <swatson1> Hello all.
[04:34] <wilbur21> ?
[04:38] <van77> hey
[04:41] <Blue1> I just downloaded 14.04 alpha2 from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04/alpha-2/ but when I boot up the disc it says 13.10 --
[04:41] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | Blue1
[04:42] <hitsujiTMO> damn, ubottu is down
[04:42] <Blue1> hitsujiTMO: no it's not - where do I go to get trusty, if not there?
[04:42] <hitsujiTMO> Blue1 #ubuntu+1 for anything trusty related
[04:42] <Blue1> k
[04:53] <swatson1> Hello folks
[04:53] <swatson1> Anyone in here?
[05:09] <IdleOne> SonikkuAmerica: how about now
[05:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Well let's see...
[05:10] <SonikkuAmerica> Looks good now... but I guess that gives no power over who to ban that connects over webchat for the time being...
[05:47] <qin> This silence is too much tention for me.
[05:55] <darius93> what good way to reduce /usr/bin/X cpu usage? It is using about 40-60% of cpu
[05:55] <darius93> should I move back to the open source gpu drivers?
[06:05] <likemike> How do i execute something in cron every 4th saturday ? Or how resp. how do i determine when it is 4th saturday ?
[06:22] <xar-> what's up with this network lol
[06:23] <xar-> good heavens
[06:29] <fangfaced1> xar-: the USA is doing it again. Obama is bored
[06:38] <glitsj16> likemike: what about: 0 1 22-28 * /path/to/script .. that'll run at 1am on each possible day between 22nd and 28th .. and at the very top of /path/to/script do a check and exit unless it's a saturday
[07:14] <elixir> Hi, I try to sudo apt-get install qt4-dev-tools but get errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6865819/
[07:14] <elixir> Tried googling also, but i am stuck
[07:14] <elixir> can someone help please!
[07:35] <sorch> o-o
[07:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Yes, sorch, it's what it looks like...
[07:45] <sorch> I know what this is its a netsplit lol
[07:45] <sorch> Not nice :(
[07:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Actually, worse than netsplit
[07:45] <sorch> O_o?
[07:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Did you see the user list recently?
[07:46] <Ben64> technically yeah its a netsplit
[07:46] <Ben64> but looks like a bunch of the freenode servers are being attacked
[07:46] <SonikkuAmerica> More like an identity crisis if you ask me.
[07:47] <SonikkuAmerica> I think I'mma leave before anything else gets attacked
[08:21] <aneks> Does anyone know how I can check my printer's ink levels in Ubuntu 13.10?
[08:28] <daniel3> I accidentally sudo mv /usr/local/bin /usr/bin and now /usr/local/bin is empty!!!! is it gone forever?
[08:29] <Ben64> how do you accidentally do that :|
[08:30] <Flannel> daniel3: Unless you've put something in it, /usr/local/bin *is* empty.
[08:30] <Golynx> Once  i accidentally did sudo chown www-data /  , had to reinstall ubuntu
[08:31] <xar-> remind me never to let either of you near anything important ^_^
[08:32] <14WAB1N0G> heh.. oops. I had a script in /usr/local/bin which I wanted to move to /usr/bin. And I didnt concentrate hard enough on what I was typing. That's how. I had other stuff in /usr/local/bin which was also important.
[08:32] <mmazing> aneks: cut open your ink cartridges and look inside ;D
[08:32] <Beldar> aneks, never used it but first hit on google. https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/saucy/ink/
[08:32] <mmazing> aneks: maybe this might help ? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/ink.1.html
[08:34] <daniel31> also wtfs going on with IRC today? anyone getting weird netsplit stuff?
[08:38] <daniel31> hello?
[08:39] <Beldar> next was the manual for the cli http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/ink.1.html with a sourceforge link
[08:54] <mmazing> Beldar: literally the same link i just posted :)
[08:58] <Guest85469> hi
[08:58] <mmazing> doesn't he actually still have the contents of /usr/local/bin in /usr/bin, the previous contents of /usr/bin would be gone, correct?
[08:59] <Guest85469> whats with all the strange names?
[08:59] <Guest85469> are they bots?
[09:00] <arlen> results of the ongoing netsplits
[09:00] <cesurasean> What is the best system to use that I can add hard drives to, and span them with RAID, like a NAS or SAN software for Ubuntu?
[09:01] <cesurasean> something simple?
[09:05] <daniel3> is anyone else getting weird netsplitty stuff going on with IRC?
[09:05] <geirha> daniel3: Yes, freenode is getting DDoSed. Nothing to do but wait till it blows over
[09:06] <daniel3> thanks geirha
[09:07] <daniel3> the one fcking day I need to use freenode.. anyway: I accidentally sudo mv /usr/local/bin /usr/bin and now /usr/local/bin is empty!!!! is it gone forever? (appologies to anyone who responded previously whose message I didnt receive)
[09:09] <aneks> daniel13, are you sure your /usr/local/bin wasn't empty to begin with?
[09:10] <cesurasean> What is the best storage solution for Ubuntu if I were using more than 1 hard drive, and want to combine them into one?
[09:10] <OerHeks> daniel3,   /usr/local/bin  is empty here
[09:10] <daniel3> yeah, but I keep important stuff in it. backup scripts mostly.
[09:11] <OerHeks> cesurasean, i would use LVM when i want to combine 2 or more drives
[09:12] <aneks> daniel13, so did you check if /usr/local/bin moved to /usr/bin? :)
[09:33] <CrypticPotatoEye> hi all
[10:23] <OerHeks> !netsplit
[10:23] <VlanX> !fuckinjesus
[10:30] <surfperch> i liked Ekiga, but haven't used it in a while
[10:30] <surfperch> http://superuser.com/questions/252251/whats-the-most-advanced-sip-client-for-linux-these-days
[11:07] <UNITED> !help
[11:07] <hewhomust> lol
[11:20] <witheld1> I'm really straining ecryptfs
[11:20] <witheld1> have a folder without about 20000 files and it is really struggling to give me directory listings
[11:22] <witheld1> okay this is ridiclous
[11:45] <therufus> hey all
[11:46] <therufus> is there anyone in here?
[11:46] <ikonia> yes, why
[11:46] <therufus> oh good
[11:47] <therufus> can anyone help me install glib 2.16 on *buntu 12.04LTS?
[11:47] <therufus> I've googled it and every site doesn't help at all
[11:48] <ikonia> therufus: what is your end goal, why do you want a different glib versio n
[11:48] <therufus> Trying to install uTorrent server on my box
[11:48] <ikonia> !info utorrent
[11:48] <therufus> had it all working 100% on Ubuntu 10LTS
[11:49] <therufus> had to upgrade to 12 and now I can't get it working
[11:49] <ikonia> ahh ubottu's missing
[11:50] <ikonia> just a moment
[11:50] <therufus> I googled "ubuntu install glibc 2.16" and tried everything on the first page of google
[11:50] <ikonia> you really don't want to be mixing versions like that
[11:50] <ikonia> give me a minute to actually look at this software
[11:51] <therufus> no worries
[11:52] <therufus> when I run utserver I get "utserver: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.16' not found (required by utserver)
[11:52] <ikonia> yes I understand
[11:52] <therufus> cool
[11:56] <therufus> ok, it seems I have something called EGLIBC 2.15. Which apparently is the latest version
[11:57] <ikonia> no no no
[11:57] <ikonia> that it totally different
[11:57] <ikonia> please don't touch anything to do with that.
[11:57] <ikonia> please just hang on
[11:57] <elixir> Hi, one quick question- There are many files by the name xyz1-dev-abc1-debug.so, xyz2-dev-abc2-debug.so, xyz3-dev-abc3-debug.so, and so on.. in /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/
[11:57] <elixir>  Now, how can I rename them from terminal as: xyz1-abc1.so, xyz2-abc2.so and so on..
[11:58] <ikonia> you shouldn't rename package config files
[11:58] <ikonia> that would be a very bad move
[11:58] <elixir> why?
[11:58] <ikonia> because other files reference them
[11:59] <therufus> don't worry, I'm not doing anything. Simply observing
[12:00] <elixir> the other that references them by xyz1-abc1.so, xyz2-abc2.so and so on whereas the files present in pkgconfig are the former names - that is why i need to rename them
[12:00] <elixir> ikonia: ^^
[12:00] <ikonia> elixir: you shouldn't be renaming them
[12:00] <ikonia> elixir: they are named version specific, so you should not be changing them
[12:00] <elixir> Ok.
[12:00] <elixir> Got it!
[12:00] <ikonia> therufus: ok, so looking through the software, the bad news is, it appears utorrent is pretty much depending on old software
[12:00] <therufus> oh balls
[12:01] <therufus> wait..... OLD software?
[12:01] <therufus> but it needs a newer version
[12:01] <ikonia> therufus: no, it needs a newer version of the legacy 1.x branch
[12:01] <therufus> oh, ok
[12:02] <ikonia> therufus: glib is version 2 as well as version 1
[12:02] <ikonia> therufus: problem you've got is that ubuntu doesn't package the version you want,
[12:02] <ikonia> therufus: which I appreciate you already know,
[12:02] <therufus> yes
[12:03] <therufus> so i'm just guessing, but EGLIBC replaces glibc?
[12:03] <ikonia> what I'd suggest you do (I'm still reading so not done yet) is to consider trying to move your torrent software to a product that is supported / packaged by major linux distributions so that you're not going to get dependency locked going forward
[12:03] <ikonia> elibc is an alternative to glibc - but keep in mind glibc is NOT glib
[12:04] <therufus> and I'm therefore guessing that I cannot install an old glibc with eglib already installed
[12:04] <ikonia> glibc is not glib
[12:04] <therufus> ahhh
[12:04] <ikonia> they are totally different
[12:04] <ikonia> hence why I stopped you urgently earlier
[12:05] <therufus> my brain is in reporting mode, not doing mode right now ;)
[12:05] <ikonia> there are ways to work around the problem you are having, but being honest going forward you'll hit this problem over and over, and possibly break other things that want to use glib.
[12:05] <therufus> hmmm
[12:05] <ikonia> this is why I suggest making a decision now to move to a torrent client/setup that is provided by major distros so you can be sure that dependencies will always be met
[12:06] <therufus> maybe you could suggest something?
[12:06] <SpaghettiCat> therufus: rtorrent or deluge
[12:06] <therufus> this is my server. I was running utorrent as a web frontend
[12:06] <ikonia> a good start is to search for torrent in the package manager to see whats available, then narrow it down from there
[12:06] <SpaghettiCat> I wonder why you picked uT in the first place tbh
[12:06] <therufus> I was using rtorrent but after 3 months of tearing my hair out, I couldn't get a webUI setup
[12:07] <therufus> so I moved to UT
[12:07] <ikonia> therufus: ok, so if you're having problems, people can and will help you, rather than select the wrong product
[12:07] <SpaghettiCat> therufus: The most popular web-frontend for rtorrent is RuTorrent, and it has a huge following. It shouldn't be difficult to set it up
[12:07] <therufus> oh, nobody could help me at the time
[12:08] <therufus> I loved rtorrent, and I had a great setup where I could just drop a .torrent file in my mapped drive in windows and rTorrent would download it. But to check on the progress, I'd have to crack open PuTTY which was annoying
[12:11] <therufus> ok, i'll install rTorrent then. You have no idea how much I appreciate your help.
[12:13] <broglin> hi, my ubuntu 12.04 laptop (xfce desktop) isn't connecting to an open wifi network - the networkmanager icon just spins. What should I do or read to fix this?
[12:13] <broglin> my phone connects to it fine and usually the laptop is better at picking up wifi than my phone...
[12:13] <broglin> (that is, my phone connects fine to the open wifi network)
[12:13] <therufus> should you sudo make or just make install?
[12:13] <ikonia> shouldn't do either
[12:13] <ikonia> why are you looking at source builds ?
[12:15] <gobli> Kryptron: yes
[12:20] <therufus> i'm doing this https://code.google.com/p/rutorrent/wiki/MainInstall
[12:21] <shady_> how I do Restore Defaults to 13.10?
[12:21] <gobli> Kryptron: maybe
[12:22] <therufus> dumb question, but what are the roles of ./configure, make and make install?
[12:23] <gobli> Kryptron: fdh
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> DOS attacks are annoying
[12:38] <shady_> how I do Restore Defaults to 13.10?
[12:38] <rannonga> shady: what does that even mean?
[12:39] <rannonga> what do you want to change
[12:40] <shady_> I want to remove all the programs and settings
[12:40] <rannonga> reinstall easiest and fastest way
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> yay I made it
[12:45] <therufus> during a make, is "Error 1" a bad thing?
[12:46] <cfhowlett> therufus, not a GOOD thing :)
[12:46] <therufus> Expletive!
[12:46] <therufus> I'm just not meant to linux
[12:48] <TheMaster57> bonjour
[12:48] <KasperNymand> madame
[12:48] <nightlingo> hello!
[12:49] <tixinoo> :)
[12:49] <TheMaster57> salut tixinou
[12:50] <nightlingo> guys! how can I see which driver is my wifi card using?
[12:56] <therufus> why does this all have to be so difficult?
[12:57] <Ben64> therufus: why are you compiling things?
[12:57] <ikonia> therufus: I asked you earlier - why are you trying to build from source
[12:58] <ikonia> therufus: you are making it hard, it's not hard
[12:58] <raznik> sup
[12:58] <raznik> i said sup, you defomed cunts
[12:58] <therufus> because I can't just type rutorrent into synaptic and have it magically install
[12:58] <ikonia> therufus: there are packages for it
[12:59] <therufus> why can't I find how to do this on google? Is this some secretive information only the elite know?
[12:59] <rannonga> https://launchpad.net/rtorrent
[12:59] <rannonga> packages for rtorrent
[12:59] <rannonga> or could just search in synaptic
[13:00] <therufus> but I need the web frontend
[13:00] <ikonia> therufus: nothing secret
[13:00] <ikonia> therufus: https://help.ubuntu.com - that will explain how to use the package manager
[13:00] <Ben64> rtgui and rtpg-www are both in the repositories, both web frontends for rtorrent
[13:01] <pradam> hi
[13:01] <cfhowlett> pradam, greetings
[13:08] <Nach0z> welp. today's buttloads full of fun
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> therufus: seems to be rtgui
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/rtgui/
[13:49] <nearst> hello good ppl
[13:49] <cfhowlett> nearst, ... and the rest of us???
[14:04] <mark_> ogra_: ping
[14:13] <jnhghy> 1
[14:31] <nearst> so silent
[14:34] <SergeyIT> test
[15:01] <harishreddy> hii
[15:02] <harishreddy> hii
[15:02] <harishreddy> jansolo
[15:06] <Dreaman> http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/78/9D/b8118bb80a3a789d.png
[15:18] <jayWOCO> My Internet connection went down earlier, and I am not sure if my question posted.  Please accept my apologies if this is a duplicate.  This weekend, I started running rsync to move files to our remote site.  This morning, I discovered I used the wrong user when syncing.  Is it possible for the sync to be run as another user without having to re-sync all the files?
[15:19] <biczu> hello
[15:20] <jnhghy> anybody heard about an activity monitoring software for ubuntu? I need to know how much time there was activity on the computer (activity means mose move/key type)... any idea?
[15:20] <jnhghy> mouse*
[15:20] <compdoc> jayWOCO, not sure, but did using the wrong user prevet the files from being deleted, or what happened?
[15:20] <compdoc> prevent
[15:21] <cristian_c> Hi
[15:21] <cristian_c> How can I use dbus-monitor to check if devices are announced?
[15:21] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[15:21] <MindSpark> Is it just me or is freenode experiencing serious issues today?
[15:21] <DJones> MindSpark: Yes, major issues
[15:22] <MindSpark> DJones: hmm… good to know it's not me. Couldn't find any news on freenodes website
[15:22] <Waraqa> Why the installer of Ubuntu 14.04 converted my partition table to GPT?
[15:22] <jayWOCO> Compdoc, the files were transferred correctly.  When I ran rsync this morning to grab the incrementals (using the correct user) and download them, the entire download was started again.,
[15:22] <DJones> MindSpark: https://twitter.com/freenodestaff or double check in #freenode
[15:22] <Qpaa123> http://screenshooter.net/8349908/lxquvdb Why do not read the headline? I added to the pro file include path
[15:23] <jnhghy> does anybody know any user activity monitor/logger? for ubuntu like how many houers the user was active?
[15:23] <Waraqa> I've just installed Xubuntu 14.04 alpha2 and chosen to replace Linux Mint 16 but it has removed everything
[15:24] <cristian_c> sorry, I repeay my question due to the freenode/ubuntuservers problems
[15:24] <MindSpark> DJones: ah, twitter, didn't think of that :)
[15:24] <cristian_c> *repeat
[15:24] <cristian_c> How can I use dbus-monitor to check if devices are announced?
[15:24] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[15:29] <PotatoHead007> Hi there :D
[15:30] <PotatoHead007> Can someone please tell me how to register my irc name?
[15:30] <Waraqa> Can I report what happened with me as a bug?
[15:31] <PotatoHead007> Waraqa should jou not file a bug report?
[15:31] <Pici> Waraqa: It sounds like what you did worked as intended.
[15:31] <kazak1377> PotatoHead007: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[15:31] <Pici> PotatoHead007: freenode services are having issues currently, I'd wait a day or so before trying to register.
[15:31] <PotatoHead007> Ok thanks
[15:31] <Waraqa> Pici: PotatoHead007 but the installer didn't tell me it will remove windows
[15:32] <supermat> PotatoHead007: you should ask in #freenode, not in #ubuntu ;) But nickserv is currently lagging.
[15:32] <PotatoHead007> Waraqa you mean you used wubi to install Ubuntu on window 8?
[15:32] <Waraqa> no
[15:32] <PotatoHead007> supermat thanks :)
[15:33] <Waraqa> The installer prompted me to replace linux mint partition only
[15:33] <PotatoHead007> But do you have windows 8?
[15:33] <Waraqa> PotatoHead007: Yes I have
[15:33] <kazak1377> Waraqa: i suggest you to use only advanced patition method;)
[15:34] <PotatoHead007> Yea, only the advanced partitioning method works, as the Ubuntu installer does not usually detect windows 8
[15:34] <Waraqa> kazak1377: Right, But this is a misleading installer
[15:34] <PotatoHead007> It is a problem with the UEFI system
[15:35] <Waraqa> PotatoHead007: Please add this as a warning in the installer
[15:35] <kazak1377> Waraqa: PotatoHead007 answered to you$) this is the UEFI issue(((
[15:35] <Waraqa> PotatoHead007: UEFI and Secureboot are disabled
[15:36] <Waraqa> Windows 8 was installed normally
[15:36] <PotatoHead007> Please see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs to file a bug report
[15:37] <whoever> hi all, where can I Find "show mouse possision when ctrl is pressed", I looked under Settings > mouse > touchPad and don't see it
[15:37] <whoever> I am on 13.x
[15:37] <PotatoHead007> whoever its in System settings > Mouse and touchpad
[15:39] <PotatoHead007> Then tick "Show position of pointer when the Control button is pressed"
[15:40] <PotatoHead007> whoever: Did it work?
[15:41] <Waraqa> kazak1377: What if I had a third partition not related to Windows 8, It could have been deleted as well because Ubuntu deleted all partitions
[15:41] <Waraqa> PotatoHead007: Do you mean I can report the bug?
[15:41] <cristian_c> The server has disconnected me
[15:41] <cristian_c> Has anyone replied to me?
[15:42] <kazak1377> Waraqa: ubuntu could format whole patrtition. Try ls /dev | grep sda
[15:42] <kazak1377> and show outbut
[15:42] <kazak1377> output
[15:42] <whoever> PunkOdissey: the option is not thereI am tring to turn it on, this was a fresh inststall
[15:43] <Waraqa> kazak1377: Ubuntu just converted the partition table to GPT and erased everything
[15:43] <Waraqa> It should at least warn about what it is going to do
[15:44] <kazak1377> so, all your harddrive is formated for ubuntu
[15:44] <Waraqa> kazak1377: right
[15:46] <Mosterd> Hi, I want a dual boot, but I'm not really certain about my current partitioning schem. My current partitions are: (some small 14 gig empty paritition), a recovery partition, a SYSTEM_DRV_PARTITION and a windows partition. Is that a problem since as far as I know I can only have 4 partitions.
[15:46] <kazak1377> Waraqa: you should KNOW what you are doing. It is linux, baby. BTW, i'm not an ubuntu developer. Just post an bug and pray for fix in next release.
[15:46] <whoever> PunkOdissey: got it, i had to use dconf-editor
[15:47] <JoeyJoeJo> I've got a CF card with a bad filesystem. How can I check if the CF card itself has any bad blocks?
[15:55] <padhu> qspatialite shows dates as pyqt4.qt4core.qdate(2013,12,30), how can i correct it?
[15:57] <mark_> ogra_: ping
[15:57] <ericandrewlewis> i changed the display settings on my user account to use an external monitor.
[15:57] <ericandrewlewis> nothing came up on the external monitor, and now there are vertical white and black lines on my laptop screen.
[15:58] <rcw2> how do i increase the resolution of dvds in dragon player?
[15:58] <Pici> mark_: please message them if you need to talk. saying 'ping' doesn't convey any information.
[15:58] <ericandrewlewis> is there a way to reset the display configs for a specific user account?
[15:58] <ericandrewlewis> i can log in to other user accounts fine...
[15:59] <padhu> In qgis, qspatialite shows dates as pyqt4.qt4core.qdate(2013,12,30), how can i correct it?
[15:59] <mark_> Pici: ok :)
[15:59] <padhu> is it possible to use qt3 library and core
[16:01] <mark_> ogra_: ping - Have you seen my Accretion project? It might very well fit in the new Ubuntu idea to make a new file browser. Accretion is fully written in QML (Qt 5.2). Be aware though, i need a lot of extra components that have it's roots in KIO (KDE IO library). I'm curious to know if there might be an opportunity there to work together?
[16:02] <ogra_> mark_, well, dont tell me, tell the ubuntu-desktop ML :)
[16:02] <ogra_> i only tried to start the conversation, i'm not involved with the filemanager development nor with desktop stuff
[16:03] <neutron> hi
[16:03] <mark_> ogra_: ah right. Will do that.
[16:04] <ogra_> mark_, note though that the base will most likely be the filemanager code that already exists ... so stuff would have to be mergeable
[16:05] <ogra_> (since in the future an app on the desktop should be the same app that runs on phone and tablet ... and automatically converges to the form factor)
[16:05] <mark_> ogra_: do you have a link for that code?
[16:05] <ogra_> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-filemanager-dev/ubuntu-filemanager-app/trunk
[16:05] <ogra_> i had linked it in the mail too
[16:06] <pip__> I'm still having samba share permission problems (access denied) could the issue be trying to share the folder from /media?
[16:08] <neutron> I am a KDE user. Had a problem and was running Unity for last few weeks and I loved it. There is one thing that keeps me from switching. The split view on Dolphin. Is there any similar function in Unity's file manager?
[16:08] <b0o0n03> hello, world
[16:08] <Qpaa123>  http://screenshooter.net/8349908/lxquvdb Why do not read the headline? I added to the pro file include path
[16:08] <b0o0n03> I'm very new to linux and I've been trying to get my canon printer to work on my new os but unfortunately I couldn't do that myself. even googling my problem doesn't give me enough info on how to get this done since i don't really know a single command :-(
[16:08] <b0o0n03> I have downloaded .deb driver files and installed them but I still can't find the printer on printers list when I try to print something
[16:09] <koell> whereisjonobacon.com
[16:52] <pip__> isd there an irc problem today?
[16:52] <pip__> ^is
[16:55] <z4sk4_> hi all
[16:56] <z4sk4_> how can i downgrade the leve of the alert of the messages of the kernel?
[16:56] <z4sk4_> i read this, and the "solution" its recompiles the kernel... its the only way? http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~jrb/ui/linux/driver4.txt
[16:57] <z4sk4_> the problem its that i have and output lines that destroy my ncurses script
[17:14] <pip__> do I need to change any permissions in/ srv fpor samba to work properly?
[17:16] <digs> So, I setup ssmtp the other day, and I guess I made a mistake and used dev.domain.com and not domain.com in a setting. I changed that but I have received like 200 failure emails with it trying to send email to postmaster@dev.domain.com - Is there a mail cache I can clear and how do I test what email and domain system generated emails are being sent?
[17:20] <kriskropd> i somehow turned a pdf file into a directory and i can't get `mv 'file.pdf/' 'file.pdf'` to work - anyone familiar with this?
[17:20] <kriskropd> `file` suggests the file indoe became a directory even though it has a filesize matching the previous filesize <_<
[17:20] <kriskropd> inode*
[17:23] <kriskropd> nevermind, I figured it out - dumb mistake and file was pushed into the directory
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Piper|Away: samba runs as root, so will have all the access necessary
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: try mv'ing back?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> kriskropd: or cp-ing
[17:25] <kriskropd> ActionParsnip: yeah it was easy once i figured out where exactly the file went
[17:27] <srhb> Hi, I'm having trouble with a custom Xsession - when I click a link in Pidgin, an error occurs and a new Chrome starts which cannot open the profile (because I already have one running.) Any idea how to debug this?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> srhb: what command do you have set in Pidgin for hyperlinks?
[17:29] <srhb> ActionParsnip: Desktop default / Browser default
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> srhb: change it to:  google-chrome %s    I believe %s is the link (it shows you in te GUI)
[17:30] <srhb> ActionParsnip: Done, exact same issue
[17:30] <srhb> It is like it doesn't detect that there's a running c
[17:30] <srhb> Chrome already
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> srhb: is there an option in google-chrome for a new tab?
[17:34] <srhb> ActionParsnip: Tried searching for one now, can't find one. I believe it would be default behaviour, if it was working.
[17:34] <OerHeks> srhb, known issue > https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=159132
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> srhb: did you set the command as /usr/bin/google-chrome    (full path)
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> srhb: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue    /
[17:34] <OerHeks> only in a new chrome window, it does not detect chrome running
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> srhb: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue    ?
[17:35] <pranav> i want to install working ubuntu in DIGI IMX51? (prior to this there was Win CE). Where do I get a complete working version? (i.e. the added LCD drivers should work)
[17:36] <Thalheim> is there a list of packages that need to be ported to various architectures?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> srhb: its a single line output, no need to pastebin
[17:36] <gh0stpirate> can someone please look at this tiny script? all im trying to do is add "java -jar /src/limelight-pi -$res -$fps $ip to the line just above my rc.local      http://pastebin.com/WzkTZZq3
[17:37] <pranav> where should i find working ubuntu for i.MX51 (embedded system)?
[17:37] <pranav> developed by DIGI
[17:38] <srhb> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l -- but I think Oerheks is right, it sounds exactly like my problem
[17:38] <ogra_> pranav, probably #linaro has ubuntu images for imx51 ...
[17:38] <ogra_> ask there
[17:39] <pranav> ogra_: thanks :)
[17:40] <soryy708> Hello.
[17:41] <soryy708> I'm having multiple issues related to KDE not having sufficient priviliges/permissions. For instance, when I'm dragging "firefox" from kickoff onto the desktop folder in dolphin, It errors out with "Insufficient permissions". Also, KDE doesn't seem to save my session even if I do so explicitly.
[17:43] <kriskropd> I think I need some further explanantion for locate - does anyone know why locate only seems to store locations for files in my system directories and one mounted slave disk?
[17:43] <kriskropd> locate ignores my samba shares and my home directories
[17:44] <pranav> how to manage network settings like IP, subnet mask, enable disable wifi using terminal ?
[17:46] <soryy708> Mmm?
[17:47] <srhb> Hmm, another issue, even after doing xdg-mime default deluge.desktop x-scheme-handler/magnet, xdg-open (magnet link) still just opens a browser.
[17:49] <dbrom> anyone here today
[17:51] <ikonia> many people are here
[17:51] <Munster> dbrom, 1273 users according to the nicklist
[17:52] <Enege> +r
[17:52] <Enege> +r #ubuntu-es
[17:52] <ikonia> Enege: you're in the wrong window.
[17:52] <Enege> Hola
[17:52] <dbrom> im haveing a issue with using rsync on local system to connect to server to recover data
[17:53] <Enege> I cant join #ubuntu-es
[17:53] <ikonia> Enege: join #ubuntu-irc and ask the ops for help
[17:53] <Enege> Thanks!
[17:53] <Pici> Enege: actually they have their own #ubuntu-es-ops
[17:54] <Munster> Enege, there are DDoS atttacks on the US, and pacific rim servers atm, use an alternate euro server
[17:55] <Enege> O.o
[17:55] <Pici> Munster: That has little to do with joining another channel.
[17:56] <pranav> how good is ubuntu for ARM based embedded devices ? :|
[17:56] <TheSov> is there any way to enable openssl hardware acceleration without building openssl manually?
[17:56] <Munster> ok Pici, got ti
[17:56] <Munster> it
[18:00] <Corvette> so I'm trying gnome shell in ubuntu 12.04 and am using the gnome tweak tool to change the theme but when I do it looks nothing like it's supposed to why is that
[18:01] <rducKi_> is there a easy way to install ubuntu with all build tools such as gcc, make, all header files for sqlite3, mssql, jpeg, png,ect
[18:01] <rducKi_> I am forever working out what is required
[18:02] <Coincourse> I'm having some issues with samba in ubuntu 12.04 LTS  I installed smbfs, cifs-utils, and afpfs-ng-utils (the server is also an afp server)  I'm trying to connect as a client.  I can connect through the connect to server dialog and see the shares ans files ad files as well. . .
[18:02] <Coincourse> but every file is an empty text file
[18:03] <Coincourse> so I can't open anything.  Copying to my desktop results in basically empty files
[18:05] <worm`> hi, not a one-sided ubuntu question but do you have any idea how to solve my problem please? https://answers.launchpad.net/sikuli/+question/243084
[18:05] <shiitFuucck> offensive nickname
[18:06] <Xuisce1> ~ops
[18:06] <ikonia> we know
[18:06] <Xuisce1> oh ok
[18:06] <shiitFuucck> so, it actually is possible to trick freenode autofilters...
[18:06] <Somelauw> Hi, I'm trying ubuntu. I started it from an usb, but it says that it can only run in "Low graphics mode". After I said "yes" it got stuck in a textual loading screen.
[18:07] <ikonia> there are no auto filters
[18:07] <hermacet> Hello, i'm running firefox 26.0 and i'm trying to set it up so it can open magnet links. I've tried adding network.protocol-handler.expose.magnet in about:config, but nothing happens. It wont even say that it doesnt know what to do with the damn protocol. Any ideas here?
[18:07] <shiitFuucck> i was trying s.h.i.t.f.u.c.k
[18:07] <shiitFuucck> but i was rejected
[18:07] <shiitFuucck> due to "errorneus nickame"
[18:07] <ikonia> shiitFuucck: please stop now
[18:08] <shiitFuucck> ikonia: how very unkind of you, using such nasty words!
[18:08] <shiitFuucck> u did use them since u typed my nick...
[18:08] <shiitFuucck> gotcha!
[18:08] <ikonia> shiitFuucck: I understand, please give it a rest.
[18:09] <shiitFuucck> oh no, again u are using curse words!
[18:09] <shiitFuucck> !language > ikonia
[18:09] <shiitFuucck> ubottu: it says "dont feed the trolls", doesnt it?
[18:10] <zykotick9> can't someone deal with ^^^
[18:10] <shiitFuucck> anyway, am I right?
[18:10] <onizu> how can i install libturpial?
[18:10] <ikonia> zykotick9: not really at the moment.
[18:10] <shiitFuucck> WOw, no OP here?
[18:10] <zykotick9> ikonia: doh ;)
[18:10] <shiitFuucck> GREAT!
[18:10] <shiitFuucck> Thanks for info!
[18:10] <shiitFuucck> this means I can type...
[18:10] <Coincourse> oh well, we can ignore right?  Anyone available to advise me on a samba issue in 12.04?
[18:11] <shiitFuucck> may your mother
[18:11] <shiitFuucck> fuck his brother
[18:11] <shiitFuucck> and lick
[18:11] <shiitFuucck> his dick
[18:11] <shiitFuucck> hha
[18:11] <shiitFuucck> haha
[18:11] <Beldar> !opas
[18:11] <shiitFuucck> no op
[18:11] <Beldar> !ops
[18:11] <ikonia> Beldar: we know
[18:11] <sybariten> oh hai
[18:11] <hermacet> what kind of backwater support channel is this? Is this the normal tone in here?
[18:11] <Beldar> cool
[18:11] <ikonia> hermacet: no, it's not
[18:11] <sybariten>  what is it that decides what permissions the files i create, will have?
[18:12] <phunyguy> sybariten: umask
[18:12] <sybariten> in this case, i am using imagemagick from a script and it would be sweet if my outcome was rw rw rw
[18:12] <onizu> how can i install libturpial?
[18:12] <onizu> 1.6.0
[18:12] <phunyguy> sybariten: it is set at a process level.
[18:12] <hermacet> Ikonia: That's good to hear
[18:12] <sybariten> phunyguy: ok, do you know how i can "analyze" how its set up?  (umask)
[18:12] <phunyguy> sybariten: if the process lets you set it, then you can.
[18:12] <onizu> turpial doesn't load... it's stuck at loading
[18:12] <sybariten> phunyguy: hmmm
[18:13] <phunyguy> sybariten: I am not sure if there is a way to force it though
[18:13] <phunyguy> maybe someone else can chime in
[18:13] <sybariten> aha aha
[18:13] <phunyguy> I am just passing through
[18:13] <sybariten> im sure theres soemthing on suoeruser.com but i dont know how to phrase what im searching for
[18:13] <Coincourse> I am trying to connnect to a samba server as a client.  Ubuntu 12.04.  I can see all of the shares and files and thier metadata on the share itself.  However if I try to open a file or copy it to my comp it is 0 bytes and considered an empty text file.
[18:13] <phunyguy> sybariten: how to force umask
[18:14] <sybariten> ok
[18:15] <phet> Hi
[18:16] <phet> I have a problem, noob here. Installation went ok in a laptop (acer aspire zn50), but once I connected a second monitor, all is blank, I disconnect monitor and laptop screen still blank
[18:17] <mjayk> phet try to install xrandar it may help you
[18:17] <phet> mjayk: how? what do you mean ?
[18:18] <Rory> phet: Are you sure zn50 is the correct model? I can't find any reference to it online
[18:18] <Beldar> phet, look in displays
[18:18] <bugtraq> hy
[18:18] <bugtraq> any one here
[18:19] <Rory> bugtraq: hundreds of people, waiting for you to ask a question
[18:19] <phet> Rory: acer zg5 sorry
[18:19] <bugtraq> hy gays
[18:19] <phet> Beldar: I cannot see anything. both screens are blank
[18:20] <bugtraq> hy Beldar
[18:20] <bugtraq> where is every body ?
[18:20] <Beldar> phet, be more specific, did all go blank when, some exact context.
[18:22] <hermacet> I'm trying to make firefox 26 recognize magnet links, to no avail in about:config. Any ideas on how to solve this?
[18:22] <phet> Beldar: if I reboot with monitor connected, it flickers, I can see something, then all blank
[18:23] <zykotick9> phet: i don't have "Displays" on my non-gnome system, so I use arandr (a gui frontend to xrandr), but it has a handy feature, save to script.  which means i just have a couple of scripts in ~/bin to enable/disable monitors connected to my netbooks...  just food for thought.
[18:23] <phet> zykotick9: I am using xubuntu
[18:24] <Beldar> phet, Can you unplug the monitor and reboot to a working desktop, than plugin the monitor and setup what you want?
[18:25] <phet> Beldar: if I unplug monitor, and reboot, laptop screen is blank
[18:25] <zykotick9> phet: do console(s) work?  ctrl+alt+F1 type thing.
[18:25] <Physikum> Greetings..
[18:26] <Physikum> I lost lots files tryin' to resize a backup partition. Is there any possible wayn to restore it?
[18:26] <sk1special> any recommendations for a good video converter? one size fits all
[18:27] <sybariten> what is the difference between 4 and 3 digit umask?
[18:27] <zykotick9> sk1special: avconv/ffmpeg is great, but terminal based...
[18:27] <Beldar> phet, Seems you have issues with the desktop showing all by itself, I would get that resolved first.
[18:27] <Physikum> Anyone know anything about PhotoRec?
[18:27] <zykotick9> sybariten: umask is a subtraction from 7, so 4 would result in 3, and 3 would result in 4...
[18:27] <phet> Beldar: everything was working, until I connected monitor
[18:27] <sk1special> zykotick9, thats fine ill check it out.
[18:28] <phet> zykotick9: ok I have console on the laptop
[18:28] <sybariten> zykotick9: 3 and 4 as in three and four digits....
[18:28] <sybariten> number of digits
[18:28] <sk1special> anyone know why my scroll bar keeps disappearing in xchat?
[18:28] <phet> control alt f2 gives me monitor on laptop
[18:28] <Beldar> phet, just connecting a monitor should not make the desktop break, there is more to this story.
[18:28] <zykotick9> sybariten: ahhh, sorry.  the 4 is for the first special permission bit (i've never used them)
[18:29] <zykotick9> sybariten: the immutable (non-deletable) flag and such
[18:29] <phet> ( Beldar it is a friend problem, who is chatting with me. as far as I know he was modyfying system settings, but never confirmed it, that is what he says)
[18:29] <sybariten> zykotick9: mhmmm..... i dont know much about umasks yet
[18:29] <phet> being in control alt f2, how can I fix it ?
[18:29] <sybariten> but everythign i read online refers to things like 002 007 etc
[18:29] <sybariten> and mine is 0000
[18:30] <Beldar> phet, Heh you are a better friend than me I would tell them to come here themselves. ;)
[18:30] <zykotick9> sybariten: so just add the 1st 0, so for the 002 example right 0002
[18:30] <zykotick9> s/right/write/
[18:30] <sybariten> zykotick9: ok... thx
[18:31] <phet> Beldar: well they have no idea about computers. I know a "bit" more. I installed xubuntu yesterday, all OK, then monitor was connected, and all fucked
[18:31] <phet> so it is my fault for installing xubuntu so far
[18:32] <Beldar> phet, Please be careful with language this is a no swear zone. ;)
[18:32] <zykotick9> phet: is there an /etc/X11/xorg.conf involved here?
[18:34] <zykotick9> phet: and/or what graphics card(s)?  "lspci -v | grep -i vga"
[18:34] <phet> zykotick9: he says that he went to settings, output section, there was a monitor icon, then clicked a tab and output to monitor, then it all flickered
[18:35] <phet> zykotick9: no idea about /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:35] <kadosh> hello
[18:35] <zykotick9> phet: sorry, if you are relaying all this - it's too difficult.  best of luck to your friend.
[18:36] <hermacet> Zykotick9; A completely wild guess, but could his friend have made a setting where linux didnt recognize the output and used wrong format/setting and doesn't recognize that a hardware has been connected and isnt updating the output format?
[18:36] <kadosh> I'm using likewise-open package to work ubuntu with active directory, but I need nfs permissions on windows work with this too
[18:36] <kadosh> does someone has worked on something like this?
[18:36] <zykotick9> hermacet: something along those lines, is certainly what i suspect ;)
[18:36] <Beldar> kadosh, specific details are what get you help here generally.
[18:37] <zykotick9> !tab > hermacet
[18:41] <sybariten> setting a umask is pretty harmless, i suppose?  Just on the command line
[18:43] <mg> !language
[18:43] <mg> hmmmm....
[18:43] <mg> !language > ubottu
[18:44] <mg> isn't this ^^ a bug?
[18:45] <Beldar> mg, no private by the bot is a normal use.
[18:46] <chacal> oi
[18:46] <chacal> hello
[18:46] <mg> Beldar: but should't the bot tell again this rebuke about foul language?
[18:47] <mg> !language > mg
[18:47] <chacal> portugues
[18:47] <chacal> alguem ai fala portugues
[18:47] <Beldar> mg, You have to point it at them !laqnguage | mg for example
[18:47] <mg> !language | mg
[18:47] <Beldar> !pt | chacal
[18:48] <mg> nope
[18:48] <mg> no rebuke...
[18:48] <mg> !language | ubottu
[18:48] <simpleuser> Hi there !
[18:48] <Beldar> mg, This is support not play with the bot, notice my notice to another user above.
[18:49] <mg> one last attempt, OK?
[18:49] <simpleuser> In firefox i add the BluHell Firewall button to my navbar. But it disappears everytime i restart firefox
[18:49] <simpleuser> any idea?
[18:49] <mg> !language > Beldar
[18:49] <mg> !language | Beldar
[18:49] <mg> Nice.
[18:49] <mg> I understand now.
[18:49] <mg> Thanks!
[18:49] <Beldar> mg, I have PM of stop this.
[18:49] <Beldar> no pm*
[18:49] <hggdh> mg: and, now, please stop
[18:50] <mg> sry...
[18:50] <kadosh> :s
[18:50]  * Beldar for the record I have never sworn on this channel, lol
[18:50] <mg> i was just trying to figure out how does this work...
[18:51] <mg> i stop spamming bot commands here and now.
[18:52] <Xuisce> Hi all
[18:52] <Xuisce> Hi all
[18:54] <Somelauw> Hi, I'm trying ubuntu. I started it from an usb, but it says that it can only run in "Low graphics mode". It said that I should configure it myself or that I can run for once in "Low graphics mode". Since I don't know how to cinfigure it myself, I chose "Low graphics mode". Then it got stuck in a textual loading screen.
[18:54] <Xuisce> Somelauw: hi
[18:55] <Somelauw> hi
[18:56] <Beldar> Somelauw, In the terminal lspci should identify the graphic hardware, tell the channel that info and your end goal.
[18:57] <phet> zykotick9: the output of the lspci is intel mobile 945gse
[18:57] <Beldar> !nomodeset | Somelauw try this boot
[18:58] <phet> how can I restore my monitor configuration to how it was before it was changed when plugging monitor
[18:58] <Somelauw> ubottu: how to set boot parameters when running from live cd?
[18:58] <Somelauw> Or should i try lspici first?
[18:58] <Beldar> Somelauw, The nomodeset link has instructions.
[18:59] <aptrwlf> Hello
[18:59] <Beldar> Somelauw, Your description is void of whether you can really run a command, so I gave you the nomodeset option in case this was the case.
[18:59] <hermacet> Beldar, any ideas on direct help page for making firefox 26.0 open magnet links? I've added just about every line in about:config that i've come across, but still no luck.
[18:59] <Qpaa123> I did a project in Visual Studio opencv and in Qt - gui. I do not know how these two projects combined into one please help
[18:59] <matto_D> Hey guys, can I get a little help. What's the equivalent Ubuntu command of this Fedora command: yum -y update ?
[19:00] <Beldar> hermacet, Magnet is a p2p right?
[19:00] <hermacet> heck if i know. I hit a button and i want it to download :p
[19:00] <Beldar> matto_D, sudo apt-get update is update sudo apt-get install is the install
[19:00] <hermacet> I use kubuntu 13.10 btw, with Ktorrent
[19:01] <Somelauw> Beldar: ok, I'll try
[19:02] <Beldar> hermacet, Magnet is a p2p you need to link it with a p2p app like transmission... etc. At least as far as I have seen magnet used.
[19:02] <aptrwlf> Anyone know Thunar? Is it possible to 'merge' folders and then 'skip' copying all existing copies ?
[19:02] <matto_D> Thanks Beldar, I've been trying to make Bumblebee work on Ubuntu but I can't seem to do it. I've followed countless guides but I've only managed to make it work on Fedora. I'm trying to recreate the steps
[19:02] <aptrwlf> hermacet: I would reinstall FF after purging it, 26 has worked fine for me
[19:03] <Beldar> matto_D, THat fedora command if I remember is a update and install together is all.
[19:03] <hermacet> sudo apt-get autoremove firefox --purge .... right?
[19:03] <phet> zykotick9: there is no xorg.conf inside /etc/x11
[19:03] <aptrwlf> i think sudo apt-get purge works
[19:04] <zykotick9> phet: that's good!  sorry i don't have any suggestions, best of luck.
[19:04] <aptrwlf> Thunar anyone?
[19:04] <phet> oh
[19:04] <Xuisce> Hi all
[19:04] <matto_D> Doesn't hurt to try with both of those command. Thanks Beldar :D
[19:04] <aptrwlf> Can Thunar merge folders and skip overwriting files? By default it does not seem to support it. Is that correct?
[19:05] <Beldar> aptrwlf, rsync, I use grsync a gui app using rsync
[19:05] <Beldar> aptrwlf, man rysnc
[19:05] <aptrwlf> hmm ty
[19:05] <aptrwlf> dolphin works so well
[19:06] <aptrwlf> thunar needs updates
[19:06] <zykotick9> aptrwlf: learning to use rsync, comes in VERY handy ;)
[19:06] <Somelauw> aptrwlf: Not sure if possible in thunar, but in terminal you can do: for dir in *; do [ -d "$dir" ] || continue; cd "$dir" ..; done
[19:06] <aptrwlf> Tyvm
[19:06] <phet> xrandr gives me "cant open display"
[19:06] <Somelauw> eh... for dir in *; do [ -d "$dir" ] || continue; mv "$dir" ..; done
[19:06] <pip> is it possible to add a -R to chmod ugo=rwx somehwere?
[19:07] <zykotick9> pip: yes (according to "man chmod", i often have to check for -R vs -r)
[19:08] <zykotick9> pip: BUT setting files executable, probably isn't what you want...
[19:08] <pip> zykotick9: I'm having samba issues, have been for days
[19:08] <zykotick9> pip: oh, good luck then - i can't/won't help.
[19:08] <pip> zykotick9: I'm sure it's something simple, but ya know....:(
[19:09] <pip> zykotick9: lol, honesty  - I like it
[19:09] <Somelauw> Beldar: I'm using unetbootin, so I'm not seeing that menu in which F6 enables "nodemoset" mode.
[19:09] <supercom32> In gnome-shell, is there a way to stop recent items from appearing on the left side dock under the activities page?
[19:10] <hermacet> Nope no luck. Uninstalled and reinstalled it. The darn FF still wont open magnets
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> hermacet, Magnet should open in a p2p, not the browser.
[19:12] <hermacet> Vilee-nilee, i never used to have this problem. When downloading something i always hit the magnet button in the browser and Ktorrent opened and did its job
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> hermacet, exactly ktorrent is a p2p app, your blaming the browser here it is just the conduit to the torrent app.
[19:14] <nearzt> join #linux
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> hermacet, Make sure the torrent app is set to use magnet and point the browser at the app for magnet links.
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> Somelauw, unetbootin skips that gui you need, you can look on the web on how to get it or use another usb loader that will give you that gui.
[19:17] <madarc> supercom32, you'll find better help in the gnome channel
[19:17] <Somelauw> wilee-nilee: what's a certain way to get that?
[19:17] <Somelauw> Does dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sba work as suggested on the web?
[19:18] <Somelauw> sdb*
[19:18] <supercom32> mardarc: I see, thanks
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> Somelauw, I have not had to get that gui that is skipped with a unetbootin boot, so the web is all I have for a tool on that myself.
[19:21] <madarc> Somelauw, you will also want to set a blocksize as not setting a blocksize is really slow
[19:21] <madarc> defaults to 4K
[19:22] <Somelauw> what's a good value?
[19:22] <Somelauw> it's already running actually
[19:22] <madarc> 4-16M
[19:22] <Somelauw> with default
[19:22] <Somelauw> better not to disturb it maybe
[19:22] <Somelauw> unless it takes hours
[19:22] <madarc> Somelauw, it's a difference of an hour vs 2minutes
[19:23] <Somelauw> it doesn't stop on ctrl-c
[19:25] <rducKi_> i forgot how bad ubuntu is :(
[19:25] <madarc> Somelauw, odd, try the other interrupt control codes
[19:25] <madarc> rducKi_, you came in here just to say that?
[19:26] <Somelauw> madarc: i got it killed, it just had a 30 seconds delay before it responded
[19:26] <madarc> ahh
[19:26] <rducKi_> i come in here to try installing a development enviroment
[19:26] <rducKi_> so many headers hard to find
[19:26] <rducKi_> time to try arch
[19:26] <madarc> rducKi_, which headers?
[19:26] <madarc> oh well
[19:27] <madarc> Somelauw, i would suggest 4M, i have not noted a performance increase with using larger sizes
[19:28] <madarc> Somelauw, thing to note, if you use an insane blocksize of 100MB for a 4MB file, the file will take up 100MB of space
[19:28] <Somelauw> i got it running
[19:28] <Somelauw> showing the gui
[19:28] <madarc> gui, on dd?
[19:29] <e-head> hey... anyone here run xmbc for a htpc?
[19:29] <madarc> e-head, yes
[19:29] <e-head> cool... can you pretty much play any video/audio codec?
[19:29] <e-head> how about wmv files?
[19:29] <madarc> e-head, you have to install the codecs but yeah
[19:30] <e-head> I use linux but I don't tend to use it for video playback... so I'm not sure what the state is of linux support for codecs.
[19:30] <e-head> cool
[19:30] <e-head> are there any codec packs you can just apt-get ?
[19:30] <Somelauw> madarc: no worry, i chose 4MB.
[19:30] <madarc> i'll get you an apt get list
[19:30] <Somelauw> It's working
[19:30] <Somelauw> I got ubuntu to start
[19:30] <e-head> awesome
[19:31] <jhutchins> madarc: These days you don't often need the codecs with mplayer or vlc.
[19:31] <_TJ_> madarc: a 4MB file *will not* take up 100MB of space if dd is using 100MB blocks! dd's ibs/obs/bs are sizing for RAM buffers.
[19:31] <e-head> jhutchins: do they just come with them?
[19:31] <kayano_m> hello guys
[19:31] <madarc> _TJ_, ooh, thanks
[19:32] <jhutchins> e-head: I don't know the details, I think they've reverse engineered them so the proprietary code isn't needed any more.
[19:32] <madarc> jhattara, and xbmc does not use mplayer or vlc
[19:32] <e-head> oh nice
[19:32] <madarc> i think
[19:32] <e-head> madarc: I don't think it does either.
[19:32] <e-head> I ordered an Intel NUC.
[19:32] <e-head> Hope Ubuntu installs without any issue.
[19:33] <jhutchins> I just know that generally we don't need codecs any more, but they're still available if a program does.
[19:33] <kayano_m> how about dvd playback?
[19:34] <e-head> jhutchins: could be the default ubuntu install just comes with most of them already.
[19:34] <e-head> that's my guess.
[19:34] <lmat> I'm having a bit of trouble with my window manager (unity, lightdm, compiz, ubuntu 12.04). When I plug in a monitor, the only way to get the computer to use that monitor is to  service lightdm restart
[19:34] <e-head> I wonder where they are kept? Are they simply lib files?
[19:34] <lmat> That's really unfortunate, and I'm hoping I can find some way around it. Any ideas ?
[19:36] <lmat> When I remove a monitor, the system seems to figure out what to do, and makes the virtual desktop space smaller (in other words, the mouse doesn't go way off the screen onto the "other monitor" which is now removed).
[19:36] <madarc> e-head, they are
[19:37] <Somelauw> i started gparted and it complains that the "GPT table" of /dev/sdc is missing (which is probably my usb drive)
[19:38] <madarc> Somelauw, i thought you said sdb was your usb stick
[19:39] <Somelauw> on the laptop on which i'm using irc, it's sdb
[19:40] <Somelauw> the other laptop has an ssd-cache which i assume is sdb
[19:40] <Somelauw> not sure how ubuntu or linux deals with ssd-caches
[19:41] <Somelauw> but it's showing up in gparted
[19:41] <dhenden> any users of dd here?
[19:41] <daftykins> dhenden: ask the question
[19:42] <dhenden> just going through the process of backing up a hdd, its linux raid 1, the partiton is 250gb, the disk size is 1tb. I am using if=/dev/sda. Just want to make sure it won't backup the mounted usb drive (located in /mnt/backup) and that it will not backup the empty space
[19:43] <dhenden> with duplicity I have excluded /mnt before, but guessing that because its using /dev/sda as the target it won't touch the /mnt dir?
[19:43] <lvleph> dhenden, is it a hardware raid?
[19:43] <daftykins> you realise 'dd' reads every bit and so yes, the resulting image will be the entire drive size?
[19:43] <dhenden> yucky software raid
[19:43] <_1_walter> what sup here??
[19:43] <Somelauw> Does an SSD cache work out of the box or should I specifically configure ubuntu to use the SSD drive as a cache?
[19:43] <lvleph> and it is mounted as sda? hmmm anyway listen to daftykins
[19:44] <dhenden> I have piped it to gzip aswell
[19:44] <_1_walter> am new here pls
[19:44] <dhenden> the usb drive is /dev/sdc, but mounted at /mnt/backup
[19:46] <dhenden> daftykins, do you think that it will backup every bit then?
[19:46] <daftykins> i know, that's how dd works
[19:46] <matto_d> Hey guys, I know this is a Ubuntu but can someone can share a success story on making Nvidia Optimus work. I'm trying to make it work on elementaryOS (after all it is Ubuntu based) and it's community wasn’t much of help :/
[19:47] <daftykins> no support in here for any distro even if it's based on ubuntu i'm afraid
[19:47] <daftykins> optimus still seems to be a mess, 14.04 should have better support so wait for that
[19:47] <dhenden> just conflicting info online, that the gzip will compress all the empty space
[19:48] <daftykins> you didn't mention gzipping it afterward
[19:48] <daftykins> why are you wanting to backup in such a strange way?
[19:49] <kayano_m> matto_d: it's no big deal if the luck is by your side
[19:50] <dhenden> how do you mean strange? just used dd if=/dev/sda | gzip -C > /mnt/backup/sda.img.gz
[19:50] <dhenden> was then going to backup the ptable with sfdisk
[19:51] <matto_d> kayano_m, it's a little irritating to have a graphic card on your laptop and not be able to use it. I've been trying to fix this with bumblebee but all I get are freezes :D. But hey I'm persistent :D
[19:52] <kayano_m> matto have you already checked the ubuntu wiki?
[19:53] <kayano_m> i'm sure there is a pretty good description
[19:53] <gimmic> linux question for you guys
[19:53] <gimmic> say I have a folder full of very similar (txt) files
[19:53] <gimmic> I want to diff between all of them
[19:53] <gimmic> ideas?
[19:53] <gimmic> it isn't folders, just one folder full of nearly identical files
[19:53] <sep332_> pick one of them, diff each of the rest against it?
[19:53] <gimmic> each file probably has 1 line different, but I want to see a diff comparison for one that is wildly different
[19:53] <matto_d> the wiki, countless guides, I've tried to recreate the steps for Fedora (the only and single time that I've succeeded with Optimus), still nothing, nada, zilch :D
[19:54] <gimmic> well, each file has a unique bit in it
[19:54] <gimmic> I suppose to look for the wildly different ones, that would work
[19:54] <Somelauw> Does an SSD cache work out of the box or should I specifically configure ubuntu to use the SSD drive as a cache?
[19:54] <kayano_m> matto_d: have a look at this page: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee
[19:55] <matto_d> thanks, kayano_m, will do that now
[19:55] <_TJ_> Somelauw: You'll need to install/configure bcache
[19:55] <_TJ_> Somelauw: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/252140/how-do-i-install-and-use-flashcache-bcache-to-cache-hdd-to-ssd
[19:55] <Somelauw> _TJ_: ok, is bcache compatible with windows multi-boot etc
[19:56] <kayano_m> matto_d: it's probably best you check out on which debian os your distro is based on
[19:57] <zykotick9> kayano_m: you probably shouldn't be offering support for non-ubuntu here.  take it to PM if you wish
[20:00] <matto_d> zykotick9: it's not non-ubuntu. ElementaryOS is Ubuntu based, and anyhow I'm not on Elementary at the moment, I'm trying to fix ubuntu, if I can do that, I'll find a way to fix elementary
[20:00] <sep332> what's the easiest way to upgrade saucy to a 3.13+ kernel?
[20:00] <matto_d> P.S. ,kayano_m Elementary is Ubuntu-based and thanks for the tips and help :D
[20:00] <Seveas> matto_d: it's not ubuntu.
[20:01] <Seveas> so it's not supported here.
[20:02] <matto_d> Seveas, again I'm trying to make optimus work on ubuntu at the moment, argh just forget elementary
[20:02] <Seveas> if you forget elementary and install Ubuntu, you can ask for support here :)
[20:04] <matto_d> Seveas, read in the upper part, I'm currently on Ubuntu and trying to make it work. :D
[20:04] <kayano_m> you can ask me what ever you like ;-) as long as you are not afraid of the answer
[20:06] <ygt> hi everyone
[20:06] <Seveas> hello ygt, how can we help you?
[20:07] <ygt> i'm haveing some issue with a USB (D-link wifi adapter).
[20:07] <ygt> it doesn't get recognized my the system. and when i checked with lsusb the command didn't respond
[20:08] <ygt> i get my command output as soon as i take off the USB. seems like an hardware issue i guess
[20:08] <Seveas> ygt: that looks like really dodgy hardware
[20:08] <Seveas> what does dmesg say about it?
[20:09] <ygt> [18373.132127] usb 2-6: new high-speed USB device number 21 using ehci-pci
[20:09] <ygt> [18373.298687] usb 2-6: too many configurations: 60, using maximum allowed: 8
[20:09] <ygt> [18373.410445] usb 2-6: unable to read config index 2 descriptor/start: -71
[20:09] <ygt> [18373.410458] usb 2-6: can't read configurations, error -71
[20:10] <Seveas> ygt: http://askubuntu.com/questions/291131/how-to-set-up-d-link-dwa-111-usb-wlan-adapter -- seems uncertain it'll actually work
[20:11] <psusi> 60 configurations?  wtf?
[20:11] <delsa> join /#ubuntu-it-part
[20:12] <ygt> j /#ubuntu-it-part
[20:12] <ygt> ups
[20:12] <ygt> :P
[20:12] <delsa> :P
[20:12] <delsa> lol
[20:12] <teward> is it safe to use /tmp as a temporary directory for a source code build?
[20:12] <ygt> long time dont use irc. forgot how it works! lol
[20:12] <Seveas> teward: sure
[20:12] <Seveas> teward: I do that all the time :)
[20:12] <teward> Seveas: when will /tmp be cleared, at reboot or until I erasify the data inside?
[20:13] <teward> or will it just randomly empty
[20:13] <delsa> join/#ubuntu-it-part
[20:13] <_TJ_> ygt: Can you pastebin the entire "/var/log/kern.log"
[20:13] <Seveas> reboot or when you delete it manually
[20:13] <ygt> @Seveas thanx for the link. it might work!!
[20:13] <teward> delsa: add a / to the beginning: /join #ubuntu-it-part
[20:13] <teward> Seveas: awesome, thanks.
[20:13] <delsa> ops.. thanks :P
[20:13] <sep332> is compiling a mainline kernel pretty easy, or should I use one of the kernel ppa's?
[20:13] <Somelauw> To be honest, I first wanted to install another distro, but I'm giving ubuntu another go
[20:13] <Seveas> teward: some OS'es have tmpwatch/tmpreaper on by default, Ubuntu does not
[20:13] <zykotick9> !kernel | sep332
[20:14] <sep332> well i need some btrfs features from 3.13 at least
[20:14] <sep332> 3.11 is the latest on saucy, right?
[20:14] <Seveas> sep332: yeah
[20:15] <Seveas> sep332: I'd start with the Ubuntu kernel sources and transplanting btrfs from mainline on top
[20:15] <sep332> hm, that's an idea
[20:15] <Seveas> (never done that though)
[20:15] <TJ-> sep332: Why not just use an Ubuntu mainline build?
[20:16] <TJ-> !mainline | sep332
[20:16] <NakedCheese> wow the place is crowded
[20:16] <Seveas> sep332: or grab a kernel source pacakge from trusty and rebuild on saucy, may work too
[20:16] <sep332> yeah i thought it was odd
[20:16] <Seveas> NakedCheese: you should have seen it this morning, it was empty :)
[20:16] <sep332> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=N;O=D has 3.13 for trusty but not saucy
[20:17] <NakedCheese> jeeze it looks like the whole world is in here
[20:17] <TJ-> sep332: Ignore the release designation, you can install that with earlier releases. I always run the latest mainline, not hit any issues in 4 years
[20:17] <sep332> ok great
[20:17] <Ziber> Can I convert a grub.cfg to menu.lst for a Xen VM to boot properly?
[20:17] <sep332> i'll give that a shot :) thanks guys!
[20:18] <NakedCheese> im a real newbie , been on Linux xubuntu for some months
[20:18] <NakedCheese> was on microsoft xp for years
[20:19] <Seveas> Ziber: only manually, grub.cfg is for grub2, menu.lst for frub1
[20:19] <NakedCheese> but I like how my xubuntu works its reaL peaceful
[20:20] <MasterRoot24> Hello everyone. Does anyone have any ideas on how one would troubleshoot random authentication failures with PAM?
[20:20] <Seveas> TJ-: it used to be an issue around 07-08 when udev and kernel versions were far too linked and you couldn't run a newer kernel with an older udev
[20:20] <Ziber> Seveas: Any new Xen VM I try to create, using pvgrub, brings me to a grubdom prompt..
[20:20] <Seveas> MasterRoot24: look at /var/log/messages and /var/log/auth.log
[20:20] <e-head> Hey... anyone try running Ubuntu TV interface?
[20:20] <Seveas> !anyone | e-head
[20:21] <MasterRoot24> Seveas Thanks - I'll take a look
[20:21] <platzhirsch> ubottu: there is no 'Just Ask' in the topic of this channel. It's really not the user's fault
[20:21] <Seveas> !bot | platzhirsch
[20:21] <platzhirsch> haha
[20:22] <platzhirsch> And I was startled why I get an instant private message
[20:22] <platzhirsch> Seveas: there is no 'Just Ask' in the topic of this channel. It's really not the user's fault
[20:22] <Seveas> the bot is hungry :)
[20:22] <e-head> Is UbuntuTV ready for prime time.
[20:22] <Seveas> e-head: that's up to TV manufacturers to decide
[20:22] <NakedCheese> I only get starteled when I hafta chang diapers
[20:23] <e-head> Seveas: well... I was thinking of running it on an HTPC.
[20:23] <e-head> Are there any other large UX's designed to be viewed from a distance?
[20:23] <platzhirsch> Support for PDFs with form elements is so bad (talking Evince and Ocular), I have to open the PDF in Chrome. Browsers are the final solution to everything
[20:24] <e-head> Or for that matter... just any KDE or Gnome themes that would look good on a TV?
[20:24] <treehouse> so basically, I do this to chroot:   chroot --userspec=someuser:somegroup /tmp/jail pokemon_client ?
[20:24] <Seveas> e-head: well, there's xbmc
[20:24] <e-head> yeah... I'm actually thinking of running that.
[20:24] <Seveas> I haven't yet actually heard of anyone running ubuntu TV :)
[20:24] <e-head> Seveas: but... I was thinking I might enjoy web surfing and just generally fiddling w/ my computer using the TV as a monitor too....
[20:25] <NakedCheese> wow ubuntu tv ?
[20:25] <e-head> It's occured to me that most window managers, desktops, and themes might not look great on a TV though.
[20:25] <Seveas> e-head: well, there's only one way to find out and that's to try it :)
[20:25] <e-head> true enough
[20:25] <e-head> ;)
[20:26] <Xuisce> Hi all
[20:26] <Seveas> hello Xuisce, what can we help you with?
[20:26] <moetique> hey to all !!
[20:27] <Munster> e-head, KDE and unity look great on a tv , i have both
[20:29] <e-head> Munster: awesome.   You just use a bluetooth keyboard I take it?
[20:30] <whallz> hi, why could a host in /etc/hosts not be recognized?
[20:30] <Munster> e-head, just a cheap MS USB wireless KB and mouse
[20:30] <Seveas> whallz: most likely because you're querying dns directly. Give us some detail?
[20:32] <Munster> e-head, 10ft from the pc is too far for bluetooth I think
[20:32] <e-head> yeah... USB wireless is best. I don't even think my NUC has bluetooth.
[20:33] <Seveas> Munster: only for class 3, class 2 can do 30ft and class 1 300
[20:35] <Munster> Seveas, interesting , but I haven't thought about using bluetooth, wireless works here
[20:42] <channel_emergenc> !ops
[20:42] <channel_emergenc> !ops
[20:42] <rww> channel_emergenc: yes hello
[20:42] <channel_emergenc> !ops
[20:43] <channel_emergenc> spam
[20:43] <channel_emergenc> spam
[20:43] <channel_emergenc> fl00d
[20:43] <channel_emergenc> !ops
[20:43] <rww> how droll
[20:43] <channel_emergenc> !ops
[20:44] <Seveas> boring troll is boring
[20:44] <ikonia> boring troll is silent
[20:44] <Seveas> well yes
[20:46] <saber1teeth> What's going on. Emergency ops???
[20:46] <ikonia> nothing.
[20:46] <ikonia> don't worry about it
[20:47] <Seveas> saber1teeth: just somebody with no sense of humour who thinks it's funny to tickle the ops
[20:50] <saber1teeth> Last night the servers collapsed
[20:50] <ikonia> which is nothing to do with this #ubuntu channel
[20:51] <digitalfiz> are the LTS’s always on the .04 versions?
[20:51] <rww> digitalfiz: they're every two years, so yes (unless the .04 is delayed)
[20:51] <digitalfiz> ok :D thank you
[20:52] <ianorlin> digitalfiz: only on even numbered years is also nesecary
[20:52] <saber1teeth> ikonia: it could of been a vengeful ex op of ubuntu.
[20:52] <ikonia> saber1teeth: please stop being silly
[20:53] <Ziber> I have a Xen VM that I want to make an image of... How do I do that?
[20:54] <Seveas> Ziber: shut it down, copy the VM files?
[20:54] <Seveas> saber1teeth: I'm innocent!
[20:55] <saber1teeth> Hope the police catch them
[20:57] <c4iff> Hi using xubuntu 13.04 , have some questions regarding solarized color schemes and the profile settings of the same set by Konsole, and how they interact if they are both set to solarized
[21:11] <Brutus|> df
[21:18] <lmat> I'm ready to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10 (or whatever). I see instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes But it doesn't cover 12.04 to 13.10. Do I need to do two upgrade processes ?
[21:19] <hewhomust> lmat way easier to reinstall
[21:19] <c4iff> ^
[21:19] <Flunder> Hi
[21:19] <hewhomust> hi
[21:20] <Bashing-om> lmat: Or: wait till 14.04 is released and do it as a direct LTS-LTS upgrade ?
[21:21] <lmat> Bashing-om: ahh, okay
[21:21] <lmat> hewhomust: eek
[21:21] <felixruina> lmat: If I'm not mistaken, 12.04 is an LTS release? If that is the case, and you can wait a few months, you can definitely upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04
[21:21] <Flunder> My girlfriend knocked over one of my pcs cleaning yesterday, and my hard drive crashed.  I was able to run a live ubuntu 12.10 64bit via flash drive, the hard drive is in the machine and I've run some of the basic fdisk commands and does see it.  How  I need help recovering the files please.
[21:21] <lmat> felixruina: right.
[21:21] <lmat> okay, thanks!
[21:22] <felixruina> lmat: However, you probably would have to do a couple of upgrades to go from 12.04 to 13.10, I believe
[21:22] <felixruina> lmat: u bet :)
[21:22] <Bashing-om> lmat: np. but a clean install is always a better course of action.
[21:22] <ikonia> Flunder: why are you running "fdisk" commands ?
[21:22] <Flunder> Well I was just using basic ones to see if the drive was there.  I think they were fdisk commands.  Anyways.
[21:22] <michagogo|cloud> So... I've got a 12.04 install I haven't used in a while, on an external hard drive
[21:23] <ikonia> Flunder: it's pretty important what commands you used as that can dictate the state of the disks
[21:23] <michagogo|cloud> I just booted it up and logged on, and I see the couple icons on the desktop, and the background
[21:23] <michagogo|cloud> But there's no other interface
[21:24] <michagogo|cloud> Anyone have any idea what might be going on?
[21:24] <michagogo|cloud> (The mouse cursor is also there, complete with the highlight when I hit ctrl)
[21:25] <Flunder> It was just a basic command to show the status of the connected medias.
[21:26] <Flunder> I didn't make any changes to it.
[21:28] <michagogo|cloud> I'm pretty sure it was working last time I used it...
[21:29] <michagogo|cloud> The sidebar thing is missing, as is the menu bar, so I can't do much of anything...
[21:29] <hewhomust> should reset unity
[21:30] <michagogo|cloud> hewhomust: what does that do, and how can I do it, considering that I can't do anything as far as I can tell?
[21:31] <hewhomust> can you open the terminal
[21:31] <michagogo|cloud> I don't have the launcher
[21:31] <hewhomust> ctrl alt t
[21:31] <michagogo|cloud> That's the only way I know of to do anything
[21:31] <jirido> Hi. I want to look a film in console and need to get to know what reolution i have so i can set it to full screen.. Is there a command i can use to get that info?
[21:32] <michagogo|cloud> Ah, that opened a terminal
[21:32] <jirido> resolution*
[21:32] <michagogo|cloud> What do I do there?
[21:32] <hewhomust> try this http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/10/reset-unity-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[21:33] <michagogo|cloud> Okay, brb (I'm on my phone atm)
[21:33] <adam___> just got a touch screen all-in-one ubuntu machine from system76. The calibration software they gave me on a 128MB sd card seems to have a windows exe for calibration. Double clicking on it does nothing. Anyone here using a touch screen monitor with ubuntu? Any ideas? the exe is named WDT8650_Calib_2010.exe
[21:35] <michagogo|cloud> hewhomust: at the first step, sudo apt-get install dconf-tools, it says "E: dpkg was interrupted..."
[21:36] <michagogo|cloud> Should I run the command it suggests?
[21:36] <hewhomust> what do you have open
[21:36] <adam___> also, what's a good way to remote in to this machine if the IP may be changing?
[21:36] <adam___> this is for my parents and would like to troubleshoot remotely
[21:37] <hewhomust> michagogo|cloud reboot and keep on pressing ctrl alt f2 this will get you to the tty then run the steps
[21:40] <michagogo|cloud> hewhomust: at what point do I press ctrl-alt-f2?
[21:40] <michagogo|cloud> This isn't my main boot device
[21:41] <hewhomust> michagogo|cloud, still there
[21:41] <michagogo|cloud> To boot to this hd, I hit escape, choose to select a boot device, choose to boot from an EFI file, then select the external HD, then ubuntu, then grubx64.efi or somethingike that
[21:41] <michagogo|cloud> At what point do I press those keys?
[21:42] <michagogo|cloud> And does that mean I shouldn't run `sudo dpkg --configure -a` despite the message?
[21:42] <michagogo|cloud> And what does ctrl-alt-f2 actually do?
[21:43] <hewhomust> are you in the system now
[21:43] <michagogo|cloud> Sorry, I'm using IRCCloud and it's being a bit laggy -- I think it's because of the problems freenode's having
[21:44] <hewhomust> as soon as you get into buntu press ctrl alt f2
[21:45] <rannonga> michagogo|cloud: after you press ctrl alt f2 then login and follow the steps on the website
[21:48] <teward> is there a way to tell how much swap a process is using?
[21:48] <lmat> I need a bit of help, and faster is better than slower :)  My vnc client doesn't seem to be
[21:48] <lmat> updated.
[21:49] <lmat> It gets a shot of the screen when it starts up, but then doesn't update. It updates the mouse position, but not the window :(
[21:49] <baldpope> anyone using smoke ping that can provide some installation assistance
[21:51] <michagogo|cloud> Gah, iOS app crashed
[21:51] <michagogo|cloud> After "at what point..." I said,
[21:51] <rannonga> when you get into ubuntu
[21:52] <meee> Is it possible to recover the files and folders i have deleted from ubuntu ???
[21:52] <meee> plz help
[21:52] <michagogo|cloud> And does that mean that I shouldn't run `sudo dpkg --configure -a` despite the message?
[21:52] <rannonga> run that first
[21:52] <michagogo|cloud> And what does ctrl-alt-f2 do?
[21:52] <michagogo|cloud> I'm already in Ubuntu
[21:52] <bazhang> !undelete | meee
[21:52] <viniz> hola
[21:52] <rannonga> well try just using the terminal again
[21:52] <rannonga> ctr alt t
 will switch you to the second text console
[21:53] <michagogo|cloud> When I tried to do the first step from that link, sudo apt-get install dconf-tools, it told me "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "
[21:53] <rannonga> run that
[21:53] <michagogo|cloud> Okay
[21:53] <lmat> Sorry, had to step out for a bit, if anyone has any ideas about my VNC problem, I would greatly appreciate some words :)
[21:54] <Seveas> michagogo|cloud: and once you've done that, run this too: sudo apt-get -f install
[21:54] <michagogo|cloud> It failed
[21:55] <michagogo|cloud> What information from the terminal do you need?
[21:55] <michagogo|cloud> last few lines are: Setting up libisc83 (1:9.8.1.dfsg.P1-4ubuntu0.8) ... \n dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: \n unable to flush updated status of `libisc83': Read-only file system
[21:55] <michagogo|cloud> (linebreaks converted to \n)
[21:56] <Seveas> michagogo|cloud: well that explains, your filesystem is probably hosed and marked as readonly. Back up and buy a new harddisk.
[21:56] <michagogo|cloud> Gah
[21:57] <michagogo|cloud> Is there any chance it's just something wrong with the system or installation or something that could be recovered somehow?
[21:58] <michagogo|cloud> Also, I just remembered that there's an install of Kali on another partition of the HD or something like that
[21:58] <Seveas> michagogo|cloud: well, you can try that, but back up first. Then reboot, fsck should kick in automatically.
[21:58] <michagogo|cloud> Might that have messed up the Ubuntu install?
[21:58] <michagogo|cloud> Seveas: What do you mean it should kick in automatically? It didn't before
[21:58] <michagogo|cloud> And I just booted
[21:59] <Seveas> then it detected the fault after boot, but now it's detected fsck should kick in
[21:59] <michagogo|cloud> How do I reboot from the terminal?
[21:59] <rannonga> michagogo|cloud, are you using sudo
[22:00] <michagogo|cloud> rannonga: yes
[22:00] <michagogo|cloud> Oh, got it
[22:01] <sep332> TJ- I updated my kernel but i had to upgrade the graphics drivers after (i got no x)
[22:01] <jockey4her> I am having trouble connecting to my home wifi. Is there a basic diagnostic app I can use to troubleshoot it?
[22:01] <sep332> also i had to convince it not to download 400MB of trusy packages, and break my libc haha
[22:02] <michagogo|cloud> errors were found while checking the disk drive for /.
[22:02] <Seveas> jockey4her: you can look at the /var/log/syslog logfile. Look for lines with NetworkManager in them
[22:02] <jockey4her> ty
[22:02] <Seveas> michagogo|cloud: as I said, your filesystem is hosed.
[22:02] <michagogo|cloud> F to attempt to fix, I to ignore, s to skip mounting, or m for manual recovery
[22:02] <drags> is there a best-practice for updating hostnames via script? manually I'm happy to update /etc/hosts, /etc/hostname, and the system hostname, but wondering if there is something like "dpkg-reconfigure hostname" or similar
[22:02] <michagogo|cloud> Guessing I want F?
[22:03] <Seveas> michagogo|cloud: no, you want to abort, boot something else and *make a backup*
[22:03] <drags> mostly I'm looking for a way to keep the localhost entries at the top of the file clean
[22:03] <michagogo|cloud> Seveas: I'm using an external drive with nothing much on it
[22:04] <Guest28911> hercules la leggenda ha inizio
[22:04] <Seveas> michagogo|cloud: if you don't care much about your data, hit F and hope for the best
[22:04] <Seveas> !it | Guest28911
[22:04] <michagogo|cloud> The disk drive for /tmp is not ready yet or not present.
[22:05] <michagogo|cloud> And after a few seconds it rebooted
[22:05] <CrazyGangster> !joke
[22:06] <meee> what do you think of foremost to recover deleted files  ????
[22:09] <baldpope> just read a comment - smokeping for ubuntu 13.10 broken?
[22:10] <michagogo|cloud> Seveas: at this point would the easiest thing to do be to simply wipe and reinstall from scratch?
[22:11] <meee> [23:06] <meee> what do you think of foremost to recover deleted files  ????
[22:12] <Seveas> michagogo|cloud: I'd first test the disk. If there are bad sectors, toss it out.
[22:13] <michagogo|cloud> Seveas: what's the easiest way to do that? Boot into one of those tool-discs?
[22:13] <Evilmax> hi all
[22:13] <Evilmax> i need help on sed command
[22:13] <ahoneybun> hey jono
[22:14] <michagogo|cloud> Or some Linux tool that would run off a livecd?
[22:14] <ahoneybun> michagogo|cloud, what kind of tool are you looking for?
[22:14] <TJ-> michagogo|cloud: Start with "smartmontools" and "smartctl -a /dev/sdX". If that reports the drive health is OK, then look at the current "/var/log/kern.log" for indications of disk I/O errors.
[22:15] <Seveas> michagogo|cloud: I'd wipe the disk with DBAN and check SMART data
[22:15] <Evilmax> sed -i -e '/\<"$dates1"\>/d' /tmp/myfile  <---i have to delete lines that contains "$dates1" ...$dates1= "16/01/2014 16:52"
[22:15] <Evilmax> but only errors i get!
[22:16] <jono> hey ahoneybun
[22:16] <Seveas> Evilmax: that's because $dates1 contains /'es
[22:16] <ahoneybun> jono, I got Ubuntu 13.10 installed on a ssd, and it is nice
[22:16] <Seveas> try sed -i -e '!\<$dates1\>!d' /tmp/myfile
[22:16] <jono> ahoneybun, nice!
[22:17] <ahoneybun> jono, / on the ssd and /home, swap on a 1tb hdd
[22:17] <michagogo|cloud> Hmm, looks like I can boot into the Kali Linux installation on that same drive without a problem
[22:17] <Evilmax> thanks Seveas...now i try...:)
[22:18] <gustav> Hello people. How to view Blurays past 2011 on Ubuntu? No one is doing that?
[22:19] <Evilmax> yes Seveas...that is the reason...
[22:19] <Evilmax> anyway i get again an error
[22:19] <Evilmax> my system is italian
[22:19] <Evilmax> sed: espressione -e #1, carattere 2: comando sconosciuto: `\' <----error
[22:21] <TJ-> Evilmax:    sed -i "/$dates1/d" /tmp/myfile
[22:23] <Evilmax> sed: espressione -e #1, carattere 5: comando sconosciuto: `0' <---another error ;(
[22:23] <Evilmax> $dates1="16/01/2014 16:52"
[22:23] <Evilmax> i have to delete the lines that contains that date
[22:23] <kingfisher64> can anyone advise me on how to get canon printer working with ubuntu 13.10? I'm following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1602839 however I can't get ubuntu to detect wireless printer
[22:23] <Seveas> TJ-: that doesn't worj with $dates1 containing /'es
[22:24] <Seveas> Evilmax: what's the exact command you're running now?
[22:24] <TJ-> Seveas: Ahhh, yes, I forgot to replace the regexp marker
[22:25] <Evilmax> sed
[22:25] <TJ-> Evilmax:  If you are embedding an environment variable you must use double-quotes to allow shell expansion of that variable:   sed -i "|$dates1|d" /tmp/myfile
[22:25] <Evilmax> sed -i -e with your suggestions
[22:25] <Evilmax> and sed -i with TJ suggestion
[22:26] <Seveas> ah meh, sed can only do /.../, one sec
[22:26] <Evilmax> ok...i try
[22:27] <Evilmax> nothing
[22:27] <Evilmax> always some error
[22:27] <Evilmax> with last TJ suggestion
[22:28] <michagogo|cloud> SMART seems to think the disk is fine
[22:28] <Evilmax> i used sed sometimes...but now it seems impossible
[22:29] <jhutchins> michagogo|cloud: smart is principally good if you run the deaemon and watch the logs for alerts.
[22:29] <jhutchins> michagogo|cloud: That, or if you test it periodically and compare the tests.
[22:29] <jhutchins> michagogo|cloud: Not so good for the one-shot test.
[22:29] <michagogo|cloud> Oh :-/
[22:29] <Seveas> Evilmax: ok, here's a monstrosity for you: sed -i -e "/\<$(echo $dates1 | sed -e 's/\//\\\//g')\>/d" /tmp/myfile
[22:30] <jhutchins> michagogo|cloud: /tmp should be tempfs anyway, which suggests deeper problems.
[22:30] <Seveas> it uses another sed to escape the /'es in $dates1
[22:30] <Seveas> bash parameter expansion also failed to do that
[22:30] <jhutchins> michagogo|cloud: Probably need to boot to Kali and fsck the Ubuntu partition(s).
[22:31] <Evilmax> i try Seveas
[22:31] <Seveas> michagogo|cloud: SMART saying it's fine doesn't mean anything unless you've written to each and every byte on the disk, e.g. with DBAN (warning: nukes all data on the disk)
[22:31] <jhutchins> RPM has a real nice feature where you can md5sum the files for all installed packages and tell if any are messed up.
[22:32] <michagogo|cloud> Heh, I know what DBAN is :p
[22:32] <Evilmax> hey Seveas
[22:32] <Evilmax> very good :)
[22:32] <Evilmax> now it works:)
[22:32] <jhutchins> Supposedly debsums that, but I think you have to install it on a known good system first.
[22:32] <user0> join /vim
[22:32] <Evilmax> thank you TJ too
[22:32] <Evilmax> i am not so able like you, boys
[22:32] <Seveas> jhutchins: yeah, that's one of the few things where rpm is better
[22:32] <michagogo|cloud> `fsck /dev/sdb3` from Kali found and fixed problems
[22:33] <jhutchins> michagogo|cloud: Which means the filesystem is good now, but the files on it may not be.
[22:34] <michagogo|cloud> Is there some kind of "repair installation" thing for Ubuntu the way there is for Windows?
[22:34] <Seveas> jhutchins: I think the closest we can get in .deb land is apt-get install --reinstall ALL THE PACKAGES
[22:35] <kingfisher64> tried http://handytutorial.com/install-canon-printer-driver-for-ubuntu-13-04-12-10-12-04/ to get wireless printer working, it's just not showing up. Can anyone advise me? Only thing I've not got working with linux switching from windoze
[22:36] <kingfisher64> i'm trying every tutorial I find to get it showing up on ubuntu 13.10, but so far no luck
[22:37] <ahoneybun> kingfisher64, let me look
[22:37] <escdraw> Hi all!
[22:37] <ahoneybun> hey escdraw
[22:38] <ahoneybun> ok what type of canon camera is it?
[22:38] <ahoneybun> kingfisher64, ^^
[22:39] <kingfisher64> it's one of those all in 1 printer/scanner devices. model is mp495 ahoneybun
[22:39] <ahoneybun> it is on the supported list
[22:39] <TJ-> Evilmax: Seveas: My memory is rusty! This is the *proper* way to do it: sed -i "\|$dates2|d" /tmp/myfile      --- to replace the 'range' delimiter you have to escape the first delimiter as in here "\|" to use the "|" (vertical-bar) instead of "/"
[22:40] <kingfisher64> slightly ironic this ahoneybun i've been fixing someone's printer tonight on windows - but can't fix my own
[22:40] <ahoneybun> yea lol
[22:40] <Seveas> TJ-: ah, thanks. I never needed that as I tend to do text processing with perl or python :)
[22:41] <ahoneybun> kingfisher64, I'm assuming you installed the ppa and did a update?
[22:41] <kingfisher64> yep ahoneybun
[22:41] <ahoneybun> sudo apt-get install cnijfilter-mp495?
[22:41] <Flunder> YES
[22:42] <Flunder> I recovered my percious files on a crashed non bootable hardrive.  Thing wont let me even reformat it!
[22:42] <Flunder> Im a badass MOFO!
[22:42] <Flunder> i love you testdisk
[22:42] <michagogo|cloud> Does Ubuntu precise have some kind of "repair installation" that I could perhaps try?
[22:43] <yeats> michagogo|cloud: the live CD pretty much functions as a rescue disk
[22:43] <kingfisher64> yep, that's installed. I've checked again through synaptic package manager it's got a nice green install checked ahoneybun
[22:43] <ahoneybun> kingfisher64, so the device does not show up once you plug it in?
[22:44] <kingfisher64> I'm trying to install it as a wireless printer ahoneybun
[22:44] <DynV> I recently installed windows then debian. I used debian guided partition tool, starting by resizing windows partition. now I'm wondering something: can I resize windows a bit more and leave a small space for ubuntu to use debian programs? so adding ubuntu would take the smallest space. debian being the secondary OS and ubuntu the 3rd. again ubuntu taking little size, otherwise I'll stick...
[22:44] <DynV> ...with debian.
[22:44] <michagogo|cloud> It's 12:45 AM here, I need to get to sleep...
[22:44] <DynV> bye
[22:44] <kingfisher64> i could go and plug it in via usb first it it helps establish that the driver is working ahoneybun
[22:44] <michagogo|cloud> I might just give up and wipe the drive and start from scratch :-/
[22:44] <ahoneybun> yea lets check that
[22:46] <Seveas> DynV: that's not a very good idea.
[22:46] <thirdeyeforsale> hey all
[22:46] <ahoneybun> the guide says to plug it in then power it on
[22:46] <ahoneybun> hey thirdeyeforsale
[22:46] <DynV> Seveas: it's just to use ubuntu from time to time, not use a lot
[22:47] <CrazyGangster> !sleep
[22:47] <kingfisher64> right it's showing and printing fine from usb ahoneybun
[22:47] <ahoneybun> DynV, maybe run Ubuntu in a VM?
[22:47] <kingfisher64> it's just not showing when setup as a wireless printer
[22:47] <DynV> will it take debina packages?
[22:47] <ahoneybun> kingfisher64, great so you are hooking the printer up to a router?
[22:47] <DynV> I don'T want to install debian packages in the VM
[22:48] <ahoneybun> DynV, not you want to run debian packages in ubuntu?
[22:48] <ahoneybun> *now
[22:48] <zykotick9> DynV: it's a bad idea to mix debian & ubuntu packages...
[22:48] <thirdeyeforsale> I have xubuntu. Is that close enough or am I in the wrong place for help?
[22:48] <ahoneybun> might end up with a broken system
[22:48] <DynV> I don'T mind breaking ubuntu
[22:48] <Seveas> thirdeyeforsale: close enough, but there's also #xubuntu if you can't find an answer here
[22:48] <ahoneybun> thirdeyeforsale, I think there is a #xubuntu help chat
[22:48] <thirdeyeforsale> thanks <3
[22:48] <alex4> test
[22:49] <Seveas> alex4: failed
[22:49] <Flunder> I fixed it and didnt even need ya'll!
[22:49] <yeats> !ot | Flunder
[22:49] <DynV> ahoneybun: I want ubuntu to take as little spae as possible, I thought it using what was instaleld with debian would be a good idea
[22:49] <jhutchins> DynV: Yes, you can do that.  The gparted superdisk might be a useful way to re-arrange the partitions, but since you need to back up the data on them before you mess with them ("Oops!"), it's just as easy to backup-edit size-restore.
[22:49] <alex4> \set irc.server.freenode.username "Jaeger"
[22:49] <jhutchins> DynV: Faster too.
[22:49] <Flunder> I'm BAD!
[22:50] <DynV> jhutchins: I did not even installe drivers on windows yet, especially for that reason
[22:51] <DynV> how would I go about this?
[22:51] <kingfisher64> not hardwired ahoneybun. I'm wanting to add it to the wireless network
[22:51] <DynV> if I can manage to only take 10Gb off windows, it would be nice
[22:51] <DynV> and not take anything from debian
[22:52] <ahoneybun> kingfisher64, well to make that a wireless printer you would either plug it into a router if it supports it or make a print server
[22:52] <ahoneybun> from my understanding
[22:52] <DynV> 320Gb HDD, 100Gb for debian
[22:52] <ahoneybun> I did the 2nd option
[22:53] <sandral> hundred gigs for debian why? can't you reduced that to like 10, and make a 90 shared between windows and debian for your data?
[22:53] <kingfisher64> right so login to the router and setup a print server ahoneybun?
[22:53] <ahoneybun> kingfisher64, so it has a usb port?
[22:54] <DynV> jhutchins: ^
[22:56] <str0ke> what's the best TLP or Laptop-mode-tools ?
[22:56] <DynV> sandral: because debian wasn'T based on windows
[22:57] <DynV> and can'T debian only read a fat32 partition, not ntfs
[22:58] <kingfisher64> nope ahoneybun. Effectively i'm going to have to hardwire this aren't I if there's no print server functionality on the router
[22:58] <kingfisher64> at least it's working when plugged in. That's good enough for now.
[22:59] <kingfisher64> ahoneybun++
[22:59] <ahoneybun> ?
[22:59] <sandral> DynV: debian can read ntfs, unless there is some philosophical reason that you can't use the ntfs drivers for it?
[22:59] <DynV> nop
[23:00] <ahoneybun> for the print server I find webmin to be a nice tool
[23:00] <DynV> anyway I needed 10 Gb just for the swap
[23:00] <ahoneybun> DynV, thats a lot for swa
[23:00] <ahoneybun> p
[23:00] <kingfisher64> many thanks for your advice it is much appreciated. ++ normally represents an increment in reputation on that channel. Maybe it's too much drupal channeling for me!
[23:00] <ahoneybun> kingfisher64, np
[23:01] <str0ke> what's the best TLP or Laptop-mode-tools ?
[23:01] <sandral> DynV: you're weclome to allocate your disk however you want, but debian will run just fine in 10 Gb or so (not counting swap, assuming you need swap) so i'd recommend you share your data between your different OS, and reduced the size of the OS partitions
[23:01] <DynV> that'S what the guided partitioner assigned as I though swap need to be at least the size of ram
[23:01] <sanchez> give windows 0mb of space
[23:02] <sanchez> it's safer that way
[23:03] <sandral> DynV: swap is up to you; you don't actually *need* swap though and can turn off swapping in linux entirely if you wish. However most systems are configured with a swap just in case they run out of memory
[23:06] <DynV> how much will it take to have a desktop environment, stream youtube, watch videos (ie: mp4), run games, and other such stuff?
[23:07] <DynV> I thought I'd need at least 50Gb, excluding swap
[23:07] <DynV> also can swap be share amongst the different linux on a system? I assume it can
[23:08] <ClumsyFairyQueen> if im using a ubuntu vm as a router, how can I enable internet access from the LAN with iptables?
[23:08] <k1l> DynV: it can. but you cant suspend and change to the other OS then
[23:08] <ClumsyFairyQueen> I already have DHCP setup to point at the router - just need some help with the DHCP rules
[23:08] <Rory> ClumsyFairyQueen: Might this page be helpful? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[23:09] <DynV> k1l: not a problem :)
[23:10] <sandral> DynV: is this a steamos question?
[23:10] <sandral> DynV: i've used gnome2 for desktop, with youtube etc, on a machine with 1 Gb of RAM. I'd recommend 2 Gb though. As for games, this depends: which games?
[23:10] <ClumsyFairyQueen> Rory, seems to be what im looking for, ill go test it out
[23:11] <str0ke> what's the best TLP or Laptop-mode-tools ?
[23:12] <Rory> ClumsyFairyQueen: It's a very long page I know; I had a quick skim through but couldn't see exactly what you need. Maybe invest the 15 minutes to read it from start to finish for a good overview
[23:13] <DynV> GPL games, I've yet to choose but I've seen a lot of nice one, even a quake 3 remake, my system go *Gb of ram
[23:14] <DynV> by steamos, I assume you mean steam, then it'S no, I used only medias (ie: DVD) until now
[23:15] <ikonia> steamOS is a totally different thing to ubuntu
[23:15] <ikonia> I think you need to clarify what you are talking about
[23:15] <DynV> DVD games
[23:15] <DynV> never used steam or the like
[23:16] <DynV> or regular downloaded games
[23:16] <ikonia> DynV: do you actually have something relevant to ubuntu to actually talk about ? or am I missing the point of what you are saying
[23:16] <DynV> if you missed my question, here it is http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/newbie/200155-take-few-gb-add-ubuntu-system-already-having-debian.html
[23:16] <str0ke> what's the best TLP or Laptop-mode-tools ?
[23:16] <ikonia> DynV: just ask your question, I'm not interested in the link
[23:17] <sandral> DynV: 8Gb RAM is fine for current generation games
[23:17] <ikonia> str0ke: laptop mode tools ?
[23:17] <sandral> DynV: why both debian and ubuntu?
[23:17] <DynV> ikonia: I'l copy & paste it but I think some people might not like that
[23:17] <ikonia> DynV: just summerise
[23:18] <DynV> 320Gb HDD
[23:18] <DynV> 100Gb for debian
[23:18] <DynV> rest for windws
[23:18] <ikonia> ok, so where does ubuntu come ?
[23:18] <DynV> I want to shave up to 10Gb to put windows
[23:18] <DynV> ubuntu sorry
[23:19] <DynV> it owuld basically need to use debian swap and packages
[23:19] <ikonia> DynV: you're telling lies - as you are asking in ##linux about debian
[23:19] <str0ke> ikonia: why ?
[23:19] <ikonia> DynV: str0ke why what ?
[23:19] <ikonia> oops,
[23:19] <ikonia> str0ke: why what
[23:20] <sandral> DynV: Debian fits in 10 Gb, really. 18 with swap. Same for Ubuntu and they can share the swap.
[23:20] <mib_mib> hi all - if i install mysql, and it runs on port 3306 on my server - by default is this port open to outsiders outside of the server? or redis on port 9306 - same thing - do i have to specify this somehow in my firewall?
[23:20] <sandral> DynV: just put your movies on the windows drive, both debian and ubuntu can read/write it
[23:20] <DynV> sandral: and for the games and desktop environment and media playing?
[23:20] <ikonia> mib_mib: it's open to what you allow it to be open to
[23:21] <DynV> I'd want to download the GPL games using linux
[23:21] <sandral> DynV: including the desktop yes. Your apps (games) will need more space, true, but you don' have to install those on the linux partitions
[23:21] <DynV> I need space for that
[23:21] <mib_mib> ikonia: if i'm using UFW, default deny, and ufw show status doesnt show the ports being allowed or denied, does this mean its blocked?
[23:21] <DynV> I want to run linux games on linux
[23:21] <ikonia> mib_mib: blocked
[23:21] <ikonia> DynV: what is your actual question
[23:22] <ikonia> DynV: you appear to just be saying random words with "game" in between them
[23:22] <sandral> DynV: Where you install the game doesnt matter so long as the OS can read the drive. which linux can, if the drive is NTFS or something.
[23:22] <mib_mib> ikonia: so - how does the loopback interface work, i.e. how can i still connect to this port if i'm on the server locally?
[23:22] <ikonia> mib_mib: thats a non-existant interface, so never leaves the server
[23:22] <mib_mib> i guess i dont understand the difference between loopback vs not
[23:22] <ikonia> mib_mib: one is physical the other is not
[23:22] <DynV> sandral: well you gave me a lot to consider
[23:23] <mib_mib> ikonia: right - but how does the firewall differentiate
[23:23] <ikonia> mib_mib: it doesn't
[23:23] <ikonia> mib_mib: it won't get touched by the firewall
[23:23] <sandral> DynV: i would ocnsider  a switch to ubuntu if you are very new to linux: debian is hard to configure
[23:23] <ikonia> debian is not hard to configure
[23:23] <mib_mib> ikonia: yes, thats what i'm trying tou nderstand, i thought the firewall just blocks a port?
[23:23] <ikonia> ubuntu is based on debian so it's the same configuration options
[23:24] <ikonia> mib_mib: it can do what you tell it to do, but default it won't have an impact on loopback
[23:24] <sandral> ikonia: hard is a relative term, it's hard for a new user. and knowing both I can tell you, no they are NOT the same. for example try to configure samba server on debian vs ubuntu
[23:24] <ikonia> sandral: it's exactly the same
[23:24] <ikonia> sandral: same config files, same location
[23:24] <mib_mib> ikonia: i guess i dont really understand the concept of loopback
[23:24] <ikonia> mib_mib: it appears not
[23:24] <sandral> ikonia: no it isn't debian uses different security settings, which need to be set differenylu, and their docs are poor
[23:24] <mib_mib> ikonia: so how does that work
[23:24] <ikonia> sandral: different security settings, what are you talking about
[23:25] <ikonia> sandral: it's the same
[23:25] <sandral> ikonia: no it isn't, at least not with the current debian
[23:25] <ikonia> sandral: in what way is it different ?
[23:25] <ikonia> mib_mib: I've told you, one is physical one is not
[23:25] <ikonia> (basically)
[23:25] <mib_mib> ikonia: ok
[23:26] <sandral> ikonia: on ubutnu if you install samba, create a share in the smb conf file, it'll work out of the box. debian needs specific whitelisting and i mess with account permissions
[23:26] <ikonia> sandral: no it doesn't
[23:26] <ikonia> sandral: the users/permissions are identical
[23:26] <sandral> ikonia: had to mess with account permissions
[23:26] <ikonia> then you made a mistake. I'm looking at the two now.
[23:27] <ClumsyFairyQueen> hmm
[23:27] <ClumsyFairyQueen> still doesnt work Rory
[23:27] <ClumsyFairyQueen> using http://paste.debian.net/80016/ as my iptables where eth0 is external and eth1 is internal
[23:27] <sandral> ikonia: which debian and is it actually *working*?
[23:28] <ClumsyFairyQueen> net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 is set
[23:28] <sandral> ikonia: did you have to set valid and admin users in smb conf?
[23:28] <ikonia> valid admin users ???? no
[23:28] <ikonia> there is no such thing as "admin users"
[23:29] <Evilmax> hi
[23:29] <Evilmax> Seveas
[23:29] <sandral> ikonia: what about pam?
[23:29] <ikonia> sandral: what about pam ?
[23:30] <sandral> ikonia: you've done this on the current debian, you tell me :)
[23:30] <ikonia> sandral: I have no idea what you are talking about, pam isn't used for anything than default auth and it works fine
[23:30] <ikonia> go talk to the people in #debian
[23:31] <sandral> ikonia: have you done this personally?
[23:32] <Evilmax> Seveas...you was very usefull
[23:32] <ikonia> sandral: yes
[23:34] <phdp> Someone has some experience with the new Lenovo Carbon X1 (the one with the weird keyboard).
[23:38] <leadnpotatoes> Hey guys, is 13.10 stable now?
[23:38] <gordonjcp> leadnpotatoes: depends what you mean by "stable"
[23:38] <gordonjcp> leadnpotatoes: if you mean "actually usable" then no
[23:38] <leadnpotatoes> Yeah that's what I mean
[23:38] <leadnpotatoes> t
[23:38] <sandral> leadnpotatoes: i am not having trouble with it, but I can't guarantee that you won't
[23:39] <gordonjcp> you might get away with it if you have a US keyboard layout and don't want to do anything too off-the-wall like use graphical apps like web browsers
[23:39] <leadnpotatoes> I need to do winter housekeeping
[23:39] <sandral> i've not had a problem with UK keyboard and the web, again I can't guarantee you wont
[23:39] <leadnpotatoes> so 13.04 needs to be refreshed
[23:39] <gordonjcp> 13.10 is still alpha-quality at best, and has a crippling bug that the devs refuse to fix that render it unusable
[23:39] <sandral> which bug btw?
[23:39] <gordonjcp> you cannot use it with a non-US keyboard layout
[23:39] <sandral> i am now
[23:39] <leadnpotatoes> Shame, I guess FTL will have problems too 'eh?
[23:40] <gordonjcp> if you set it to anything else - even if you remove the US keyboard layout - it will randomly switch back to a US layout
[23:40] <leadnpotatoes> lol
[23:40] <gordonjcp> Intel graphics are no longer supported
[23:40] <sandral> it doesnt for me, is there a link to the bug report?
[23:40] <leadnpotatoes> ! well fuck me
[23:40] <gordonjcp> not offhand, I can't log into the forums because I can't type my password
[23:40] <gordonjcp> s/forums/Launchpad/
[23:41] <sandral> why do yo need to login to find a "critical" bug?
[23:41] <gordonjcp> sandral: because then I can see the bugs I've filed
[23:41] <gordonjcp> the Intel graphics one is particularly bad
[23:41] <sandral> i can go look, what search key you want me to enter?
[23:42] <gordonjcp> sandral: search for stuff to do with 13.10 switching keyboard layouts by itself
[23:42] <gordonjcp> also glyph corruption with intel graphics
[23:42] <gordonjcp> it starts off as one letter out of the alphabet getting scrambled
[23:42] <gordonjcp> over time, more and more get scrambled until the whole screen is just random glyphs
[23:43] <leadnpotatoes> Is this because of whatever ubuntu has been doing with the UI?
[23:43] <leadnpotatoes> the intel problems
[23:44] <sandral> leadnpotatoes: not everyone is having that bug, so take it with a pinch of salt. there's a lot of chrubuntus around, and they're all intel
[23:45] <sandral> leadnpotatoes: i am nto saying that bug doesnt exist, just not everyone has it
[23:45] <LanceW> Hi, I have a laptop that a user upgraded to 13.10. Unfortunately it runs a PHP 5.4 application. Is it possible to downgrade PHP to 5.4?
[23:45] <gordonjcp> leadnpotatoes: no, it's because the intel graphics devs are monkeys
[23:46] <LanceW> I have tried googling and not had any joy
[23:46] <gordonjcp> LanceW: not really, no
[23:46] <gordonjcp> LanceW: can you upgrade the PHP app?
[23:47] <LanceW> No as it uses a IonCube thing to secure the code and that only does backwards compatibility two versions and you guessed it 5.5 makes it 3
[23:47] <leadnpotatoes> LanceW: You could always use a VM if you get desperate.
[23:47] <gordonjcp> what's IonCube?
[23:47] <KLVTZ> Good Evening everyone!
[23:47] <LanceW> IonCube is some form of sourcecode encryption
[23:47] <gordonjcp> LanceW: use sane stuff, then
[23:47] <LanceW> You end up with PHP files that are not readable by humans
[23:48] <LanceW> I wish. :-)
[23:48] <gordonjcp> well, that sounds like a stupid idea
[23:48] <gordonjcp> just install unencrypted versions
[23:48] <leadnpotatoes> LanceW: For work?
[23:48] <LanceW> It's a pain
[23:48] <LanceW> Kinda yeah.
[23:48] <sandral> LanceW: I would ask #php, but if i had to fix it quick without doing so, I would install a VM
[23:49] <gordonjcp> !proprietary
[23:49] <LanceW> #php is a good idea.
[23:49] <gordonjcp> hm, the bot is dead
[23:49] <sandral> LanceW: is IonStorm the one zend itself makes?
[23:50] <LanceW> I am not sure, I think so.
[23:53] <Kellur> Test. Does this work?
[23:53] <felixruina> Kellur: Yup :)
[23:53] <leadnpotatoes> Kellur: Hi
[23:53] <Kellur> OK, thanks. I got "cannot send to channel" errors earlier.
[23:54] <Arw0r> hello, does anyone has ios7 working on ubuntu ?
[23:54] <Arw0r> need some tips
[23:54] <glitsj16> LanceW: saucy has php 5.3.2 by default, are you using a PPA?
[23:55] <Kellur> I'm trying to run some commands as user "boinc", but "sudo su - boinc" doesn't work. "whoami" always answers my login name.
[23:55] <LanceW> 5.3.2 would be fine
[23:55] <glitsj16> LanceW: my bad, i saw it in a PPA, but not sure if it is available for saucy
[23:55] <Kellur> Anyone knows why? Or better, what is the correct command?
[23:55] <leadnpotatoes> Arw0r: Never got it to work.
[23:55] <Arw0r> damn
[23:55] <LanceW> I have tried several methods and not got far. Most google finds are for 12.10 downgrading not 13.10
[23:56] <leadnpotatoes> Arw0r: Also, I couldn't pipe the USB through to a VM.
[23:56] <sandral> LanceW: My friend says try "phpbrew"
[23:57] <Arw0r> leadnpotatoes: must switch to windows if wants to upload songs to it via music app
[23:57] <LanceW> Hmmm... I did see perlbrew but not tried that yet. May be the last resort
[23:57] <sandral> LanceW: it's a tool for managing multiple versions of php on the same machine
[23:57] <genii> !info libimobiledevice3 saucy
[23:57] <LanceW> sandra1 sound like what I need
[23:57] <Arw0r> damn ios7 protections
[23:57] <genii> !info libimobiledevice3 trusty
[23:58] <genii> Hm.
[23:58] <genii> !info libimobiledevice4 saucy
[23:59] <leadnpotatoes> When was libimobiledevice4 released?