[00:13] <knome> bbl, see you all later
[08:59] <pmjdebruijn> hey guy
[08:59] <pmjdebruijn> guys*
[09:00] <pmjdebruijn> I've noticed xubuntu has scroll on desktop (to switch workspace), and window rollup by scrolling on the window bar, enabled by default
[09:00] <pmjdebruijn> I often do either of these accidentally when using my laptops touchpad
[09:00] <pmjdebruijn> (with a mouse not so much)
[09:01] <pmjdebruijn> so maybe it's a consideration to disable those by defualt?
[16:05] <slickymaster> knome: ping
[16:05] <slickymaster> you around?
[16:18] <knome> slickymaster, now i am
[16:19] <elfy> o/ knome 
[16:19] <knome> hey elfy 
[16:20] <slickymaster> hey knome 
[16:20] <knome> what's up?
[16:20] <slickymaster> what do you think of this as a intro paragraph for the mugshot section: "If you want to personalize your personal preferences, either it's your image profile or your user details, Xubuntu has the right tool for the job.
[16:21] <knome> i think it's a bit repeating :)
[16:21] <knome> besides, the intro paragraph i left there was for the *whole chapter*
[16:21] <knome> if that's what you're planning
[16:21] <slickymaster> hmm, I misunderstood then
[16:22] <slickymaster> I thought it was ment just for the mugshot section
[16:22] <knome> well good to have it sorted now than later :D
[16:22] <knome> nah, that would have been repeating as well ;)
[16:22] <knome> basically just briefly list what the chapter is about
[16:22] <slickymaster> ok, I'll rephrased then, and will write it for the all chapter
[16:22] <slickymaster> oki dokie
[16:22] <knome> and in this case, probably mention how customisable xubuntu is and why it's good
[16:22] <knome> cheers
[16:23] <slickymaster> will do
[16:23] <knome> (or sth like that)
[16:23] <knome> just see what the other chapters have
[17:30] <slickymaster> I'm off
[17:30] <slickymaster> bbl ->
[18:57] <pleia2> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/xubuntu/releases/ is now complete :)
[19:29] <elfy> pleia2: nice :)
[20:37] <brainwash> ochosi: patch for xfdesktop to scale down the oversized png icons https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10653
[20:40] <brainwash> if this works and looks ok, we could set the default icon size in xubuntu to 36px
[20:41] <brainwash> bug 1272057
[23:20] <knome> i'm here if any of you need me.
[23:26] <pleia2> did we find a widescreen thingy for our startubuntu flier? :)
[23:26] <pleia2> I need to get it off to the printer soon for scale
[23:27] <knome> oh yeah
[23:27] <knome> so i guess you prefer US letter?
[23:27] <pleia2> I would, but if we can't make it happen I can see if I can find a stateside printer that does a4
[23:27] <knome> also, is the printer ok with inkscape-exported pdf or do they need some cmyk stuff?
[23:27] <knome> i can look at it in 5
[23:28] <knome> it's not a no-brainer, but it should be okay with some tweaking
[23:28] <pleia2> pdf is fine
[23:34] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/marketing_flyer_xp/flyer_xp-to-xubuntu.png
[23:34] <knome> that's the A4
[23:35] <ochosi> brainwash: meh, my point was not that 36px isn't do-able iconwise, it's that it's not a standard icon size and therefore will always be blurry (even with a patch that scales it down, and in fact i think we've found a way to even do that without a patch via the icon-theme). i really don't this obsession with that icon-size though, why not set it to 32? it's not *that* much smaller
[23:35] <knome> and huh, what an ugly shadow :)
[23:35] <pleia2> knome: it's beautiful :)
[23:43] <Unit193> Side note, likely many XP computers that can run "Ubuntu"?
[23:44] <knome> who cares! :P
[23:44] <pleia2> take that up with the startubuntu project
[23:44] <pleia2> I just told them we'd come up with a Xubuntu version
[23:46] <knome> pleia2, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/marketing_flyer_xp/flyer_xp-to-xubuntu_letter.png
[23:48] <pleia2> knome: ++
[23:49] <knome> i'll export those to pdf soonish
[23:49] <pleia2> knome: licensing footer?
[23:49] <knome> yeah, meh
[23:49] <knome> what info do we need to keep there?
[23:49] <knome> and can it be a semi/metafooter, at the right bottom instead of bottom of all
[23:49] <pleia2> let's see...
[23:50] <pleia2> I'd keep cc-by-sa and note that the source can be found on spreadubuntu.org
[23:51] <pleia2> drop everything else
[23:51] <knome> goodie
[23:51] <knome> sensible pleia2++
[23:51] <pleia2> :)
[23:51] <knome> do we need to attribute the original author?
[23:51] <knome> it's -by-
[23:52] <pleia2> so spreadubuntu.org will eventually get people to figure out some attribution history, but I probably should ask him :\
[23:53] <pleia2> do it without, we'll readd (or reassess...) if he insists
[23:53] <knome> well, as i said, technically, it's not a derivative
[23:53] <pleia2> as an artist, I imagine saying such a thing makes you wince :)
[23:53] <knome> hehe, sure ;)
[23:53] <pleia2> I'm sure he'll be ok with it, as there are lots of authors at this point and it's not sensible to list everyone
[23:54] <pleia2> him, me, you, screenshot creator..
[23:54] <knome> i don't mind attributing him, but then i feel like i should attribute myself as well/instead...
[23:54] <pleia2> yeah
[23:54] <knome> (c) Authors :P
[23:55] <pleia2> when we upload to spreadubuntu we can list the authors, I think there is a comment section or something
[23:55] <knome> i have *no* idea
[23:55] <pleia2> hehe
[23:55] <pleia2> there is something
[23:57] <Unit193> if screenshot creator = me;then license it BSD-3-clause, relicense it to whatever, pretend you took it, I don't care. :P
[23:57] <knome> haha
[23:57] <knome> along the lines of how i think i need to be attributed...