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bjfbug 127599101:30
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1275991 in xorg (Ubuntu) "After upgrading from Raring to Saucy my nvidia graphics will not come up." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127599101:30
bjfcan anyone help me debug this issue? ^01:30
pittiGood morning05:26
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ritzSweetsha1k, wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-advantage/+bug/1275037 . any chance of 4.2 in precise ?07:07
ubot2`ritz: Error: launchpad bug 1275037 not found07:07
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robert_ancellfginther, hey, can I get you to set up Jenkins merging for lp:unity-control-center and lp:activity-log-manager?09:31
mptseb128, reported bug 127606309:37
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1276063 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Mysterious unlabelled switch next to volume slider in "Sound"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127606309:37
seb128mpt, thanks09:41
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ritzcyphermox_ ping, pm10:17
robert_ancelldesrt, are you doing the glib update?10:43
seb128robert_ancell, you want Laney10:44
seb128robert_ancell, desrt doesn't do packaging10:45
desrtrobert_ancell: mclasen said he'd do the upstream release and Laney will do it in ubuntu10:45
desrtno work for me!!10:45
Laneyumm10:45
Laneymclasen said that Laney would do it?10:45
Laneyalso, since I'm a manager I don't do this kind of thing10:45
robert_ancellshould I just do it?10:45
Laneyso... desrt will take care of that10:45
desrtLaney: you were only in charge of the tickets10:45
desrtsorry10:45
seb128Laney, that's fine, just give us a name10:45
Laneyoh man, wait, are you talking about a glib update?10:46
LaneyI'm totally doing that10:46
desrtLaney: ya... 2.41 is ready for upload10:46
desrtseb128 said it was OK10:46
desrtsince he was so happy about cairo10:46
pstolowskisil2100, ping10:47
mptseb128, the glitch I just showed you with the backgrounds now reported as bug 127609810:59
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1276098 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Sound: Background tints around listboxes and sliders" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127609810:59
seb128mpt, thanks11:08
seb128robert_ancell, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=ubuntu-desktop-trusty11:12
seb128robert_ancell, I've added some unity-greeter issues to the list so we start having items ;-)11:13
mlankhorstseb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x11proto-dri3/+bug/127610311:13
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1276103 in x11proto-present (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libxshmfence, x11proto-present and x11proto-dri3" [Undecided,New]11:13
sil2100pstolowski: pong (been on the roof, just got back)11:13
seb128mlankhorst, thanks11:13
pstolowskisil2100, hi :)11:39
* mlankhorst pokes seb12811:51
seb128mlankhorst, what?11:51
mlankhorstMIR11:51
seb128mlankhorst, I'm archive-admin, not ubuntui-mir, I can't promote those until they are approved11:52
mlankhorstok11:52
seb128mlankhorst, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mir/+members#active11:52
mlankhorstyeah I'll poke some people11:53
mlankhorstdidrocks: poke12:19
seb128Trevinho_, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2014-February/004423.html (just for info)12:21
Trevinho_seb128: cool, thanks!!12:24
seb128Trevinho_, yw!12:24
Trevinho_seb128: why didn't you come to FOSDEM btw? :)12:24
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seb128Trevinho, because we are in London this week and I had my flight booked12:25
seb128next year maybe ;-)12:25
Trevinhoseb128: ah, yeah... I've been told that.12:25
Trevinhook, sounds fine! :)12:25
seb128Trevinho, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/3.8.6.1-0ubuntu3 btw12:25
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Trevinhoseb128: cool, that's great as well!12:36
Trevinhoseb128: we tried to handle that per each monitor in unity, but for global settings that would be good12:37
larsuTrevinho: hi! Did you notice that you can't resize windows with client-side decorations? (like the new gnome apps)12:42
larsuthere's some extension that needs to be supported (frame extents?!) - are there any plans to do that for the lts?12:43
larsuto compiz, I mean12:43
Trevinholarsu: mh, nope.... what can I try?12:43
larsuTrevinho: gnome-tweak-tool or gnome-clocks12:43
Trevinho(from ubuntu archive)12:43
Trevinhook12:43
Trevinholarsu: I guess you're talking about archive-unity not trunk-unity, right?12:44
larsuyes12:45
larsuunity in trusty12:45
larsuI'm guessing this is something that compiz needs to support, right?12:45
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Trevinholarsu: well, I've completely rewritten that part... So, let me check what's the status here12:45
Trevinhoas I've changed the things a lot12:45
Trevinhoand it's in unity now12:46
Trevinhobut not in the archive12:46
larsucool - does it work with unity trunk?12:46
Trevinholarsu: let me check; as the g-tweak-tool version I had here was not using the client side decorations12:46
larsuTrevinho: thanks! We're going to lunch now. ttyl12:48
Trevinholarsu: ok.. just tried gnome-clocks, no resizable here... THat's because there are no hints set on it I guess...12:51
Trevinhooh, well.. no that's because there are no frames set... I'll check that in the deep after FF. Please assign me a bug for that though12:53
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* mlankhorst pokes didrocks 13:32
didrocksmlankhorst: I'm not around :p13:35
mlankhorstiemand anders ;D13:35
* mlankhorst pokes didrocks 13:35
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mlankhorsthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x11proto-dri3/+bug/127610313:36
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1276103 in x11proto-present (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libxshmfence, x11proto-present and x11proto-dri3" [Undecided,New]13:37
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robert_ancellLaney, lp:~robert-ancell/gnome-desktop/brightness-fix14:27
larsuTrevinho: thanks for looking into it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/127617714:33
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1276177 in unity (Ubuntu) "Applications using client-side decorations are not resizable in Unity" [Undecided,New]14:33
bjfi've just installed Trusty on a system with Nvidia and it came up with a low-res dialog which i can't select and no way to get to the graphics desktop14:34
bjfmlankhorst, ^14:36
mlankhorstbjf: needs more info, did you regenerate the initramfs after installing nvidia drivers?14:37
bjfmlankhorst, this is a fresh install using the nouveau driver14:38
bjfmlankhorst, so yes, that should have happened14:38
mlankhorstnouveau should not be loaded and a nvidia driver should show up in lsmod14:39
bjfmlankhorst, nouveau shows up14:39
mlankhorstwell there you go then :p14:39
mlankhorstupdate-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf14:40
bjfmlankhorst, i'm not following, are you saing nouveau is not the default ?14:40
mlankhorstoh :P14:40
mlankhorstthought you were using the blob drivers14:40
mlankhorstcan you paste the Xorg.0.log ?14:40
bjfmlankhorst, yes14:41
bjfpastebinit14:44
bjfmlankhorst, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6873381/14:45
mlankhorstlooks correct14:46
mlankhorstif there's a problem, it's not on the driver side, you have to look at the login or session14:47
bjfmlankhorst, i'm looking at lightdm.log and there is "Session stopped .. Stopping; failed to start a greeter"14:48
bjfmlankhorst, if this isn't a driver issue at this point can you point me at someone else i should be hasseling about this?14:49
mlankhorstsome gnome maintainer or the lightdm people?14:49
bjfpitti, ^ any idea who can help me? i see issues in lightdm.log and errors in x-0-greeter.log14:57
bjfpitti, this is with a daily live image i just downloaded and installed14:57
pittibjf: robert_ancell is the primary lightdm developer14:58
bjfpitti, thanks14:58
robert_ancellbjf, that sounds like your X server failed to start, so LightDM gave up14:59
bjfrobert_ancell, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6873423/14:59
bjfrobert_ancell, where do i look for x server logs?14:59
robert_ancellbjf, /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log and /var/log/Xorg*.log15:00
robert_ancellthe latter has more details15:00
bjfrobert_ancell, see above with mlankhorst, the driver looks like it came up good15:00
robert_ancellbjf, that paste is the greeter log which is less useful without seeing the lightdm.log first15:01
bjfrobert_ancell, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6873421/   lightdm.log15:01
robert_ancellbjf, ok, so your greeter quit after 30s. The log shows the indicators going mental15:04
robert_ancelland it 22s to render the background15:05
robert_ancellbjf, so I'd look for general problems on your system, i.e. running out of memory, processes using 100% CPU15:06
Trevinholarsu: np15:07
bjfrobert_ancell, how do i get it to try again while i monitor my system?15:07
robert_ancellbjf, sudo restart lightdm15:08
Trevinholarsu: ah, here I'm often getting hud-service on 100% cpu... did you expereience that so far=15:08
Trevinho?15:08
bjfrobert_ancell, is this part of the problem or just a symptom: unity-greeter[1194]: segfault at 18 ip 00007fcf7f218a50 sp 00007fff64d39278 error 4 in libgdk-3.so.0.1000.7[7fcf7f1e0000+a0000]15:08
robert_ancellthat looks like the problem15:09
bjfrobert_ancell, that is in the syslog15:09
robert_ancellbjf, is there a crash entry in /var/crash?15:09
bjfrobert_ancell, yes15:10
robert_ancellpitti, ^ how do you report a bug from the command line>?15:11
robert_ancellthat crash entry should tell why u-g has segfaulted15:11
larsuTrevinho: no... ask ted about that please :)15:11
pittibjf: run apport-bug /var/crash/... (as sudo if it's a crash from root, which is likely)15:11
robert_ancellpitti, it will be the lightdm user15:11
pittibjf: that'll upload it to errors.u.c. and also try to upload to LP, but of course that won't get you very far15:11
bjfpitti, robert_ancell doing that now15:12
pittibjf: after you ran ubuntu-bug, you can scp the .crash file someplace else and run ubuntu-bug on that one on a different box with X/firefox15:12
pittibut it's important that you run the data collection on the affected machine15:12
bjfpitti, ack15:12
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bjfrobert_ancell, bug 127620215:18
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1276202 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "unity-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_window_get_type_hint()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127620215:18
robert_ancellbjf, looks like bug 104813115:19
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1048131 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "unity-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_window_get_type_hint()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104813115:19
bjfrobert_ancell, ok, any workaround? this is my main desktop system15:21
robert_ancellbjf, try installing lightdm-gtk-greeter15:21
bjfrobert_ancell, ack15:22
robert_ancellbjf, I think I will have a fix for this, can you test in ~1hr?15:25
bjfrobert_ancell, yes15:25
robert_ancellthanks15:25
bjfrobert_ancell, it's the start of my day... here all day :-)15:25
bjfrobert_ancell, and the lightdm-gtk-greeter worked15:26
robert_ancellgreat15:26
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qenghocyphermox_:  http://grepcode.com/file/repository.grepcode.com/java/ext/com.google.android/android/4.0.1_r1/android/net/wifi/WifiWatchdogStateMachine.java#WifiWatchdogStateMachine.isWalledGardenConnection%28%2915:34
cyphermox_yeah, I have it bookmarked I think15:35
cyphermox_I probably need to fit in a few more safety chekcs though, like dns timeouts and the like15:36
cyphermox_will eventually get back to that code, but for now it's blocking more important bugfixes I want to land15:36
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Trevinhotedg: I'm getting hud-service to use 100% of my CPU quite often... I don't have debg symbols here yet, but this seems to happen http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6873661/ (if it helps)15:51
tedgTrevinho, You'll probably need to grab pete-woods, he's the go-to guy for HUD right now.15:52
Trevinhotedg: ah, ok thanks15:53
mpttedg, could you update the description of <https://launchpad.net/appmenu-gtk> to clarify whether it is used in Unity?16:10
mpt“Title says it all” is unfortunately far from true.16:10
tedgmpt, Heh, sure.16:12
tedgmpt, Updated16:13
mptthanks16:13
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mitya57Laney: Hi, I've subscribed you to telepathy-qt MP as you were the author of "build against farstream 0.4" upload. Can you please comment there?16:14
Laneyumm16:14
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mitya57Ohh, that calligra FTBFS is going to block the poppler transition again :(16:16
Laneymitya57: ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I don't remember this upload16:18
Laneywhere is it?16:19
Laneymitya57: The 0.4 split package was only because of the gstreamer 0.10/1.0 split as far as I'm concerned16:41
mitya57Laney: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-qt/0.9.3-0ubuntu316:44
mitya57OK, let's sync and see if something breaks then16:44
mitya57Well, first wait for Quintasan's upstream poking16:44
Laneyhang on16:45
Laneymitya57: if it's gstreamer 0.10 still then you want to stay on the split package16:47
Laneyhaving 0.10 and 1.0 in the same process is bad16:47
robert_ancellbjf, are you OK building unity-greeter from a branch?16:51
mitya57Laney: hmm, I will look if telepathy-qt uses gstreamer 0.1016:52
Laneypretty sure all the qtgstreamer stuff hasn't been ported yet16:52
bjfrobert_ancell, that would be new for me16:53
bjfrobert_ancell, but i'm willing to give it a spin16:54
robert_ancellbjf, ok, I'll write up some instructions16:55
bjfrobert_ancell, thanks16:55
mpttedg, I guess <https://launchpad.net/indicator-appmenu> isn’t used in Unity either?16:56
tedgmpt, It is currently, and I don't think it's going to get replaced this cycle.16:56
tedgmpt, Hopefully next16:57
ricotzchrisccoulson, hi :), please push firefox/thunderbird ppa builds for trusty too if they won't get there yet16:57
robert_ancellbjf, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6873963/16:59
bjfrobert_ancell, ack, i'll get right on it16:59
robert_ancellbjf, oh, and uninstall lightdm-gtk-greeter to switch back to unity-greeter17:01
bjfrobert_ancell, ack17:01
robert_ancellfginther, hey, did you see my jenkins request?17:03
fgintherrobert_ancell, yep, it's on the queue for the day. Next time go ahead and ping the vanguard in one of the ci IRC channels so it's less likely to be lost if my IRC window scrolls away  :-)17:04
robert_ancellfginther, ok, cool. Is IRC the best way to request or email?17:05
fgintherrobert_ancell, irc is probably better for small things like this. (it might not be done right away, but someone can add it to correct queue)17:08
robert_ancellk17:08
mlankhorstmust find ubuntu-mir member..17:09
fgintherrobert_ancell, are both of these projects drivin by canonical?17:14
robert_ancellfginther, lp:unity-control-center yes, and lp:activity-log-manager is abandoned and we are the only consumer so we're effectively driving it17:15
fgintherrobert_ancell, ok, ps-jenkins will need to be a member of the appropriate team to do merges and testing17:15
robert_ancellfginther, np17:16
robert_ancellI'll do that now17:16
fgintherrobert_ancell, thanks17:16
fgintherrobert_ancell, are both of these unity 7 related?17:17
robert_ancellfginther, yes17:17
robert_ancellonly Unity 817:17
robert_ancellonly Unity 7 I mean17:17
fgintherrobert_ancell, cool, just trying to find an appropriate location for the meta data17:17
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bjfrobert_ancell, that does appear to resolve my issue17:40
bjfrobert_ancell, i'd love to understand why it takes so very long to get the greeter up and then the full desktop up. there are some really long delays17:41
bjfrobert_ancell, but that's for another time17:41
robert_ancellbjf, great, thanks!17:42
bjfrobert_ancell, np and thank _you_17:42
robert_ancellbjf, I think in your case there might be some problems with the indicators that are triggering the bug17:42
robert_ancelland the background rendering is taking ages for some reason17:42
bjfrobert_ancell, this is a really beefy system, 12 cores, 32G of mem17:43
robert_ancellyeah, it should be instantaneous17:43
bjfrobert_ancell, so i don't think it's underpowered17:43
robert_ancellis the IO going crazy?17:43
bjfrobert_ancell, not that i can tell ... could it be network related some how?17:44
didrocksmterry: hey, seems mlankhorst has an urgent MIR I can't deal with FYI (I think he can provide the bug #)17:44
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mptcyphermox_, reported bug 127626717:44
robert_ancellbjf, I don't think so according to the logs you showed me17:44
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1276267 in bluez (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth works, but System Settings can't turn it on" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127626717:44
didrocksmlankhorst: also, don't upload any xorg, I know kgunn is trying to land a Mir (not MIR) needing a rebuild and he's doing it now17:45
mterrydidrocks, btw, so many MIRs coming down the pipeline...17:45
mptA murmur of Mirs17:45
didrocksmpt: I know…17:45
didrocksmterry: ^17:46
didrocksmterry: but I NEWed most of them17:46
didrocksmterry: so, I'm afraid it will be for you guys, I don't want to NEW and review the MIR17:46
cyphermox_mpt: thanks17:46
Laneycunning17:46
Laneyvery cunning17:46
didrocksthat would be doing the packaging17:46
didrockstelling "oh this package is good for ubuntu"17:46
didrocksand then "oh, we can support this awesome package!" :)17:46
cyphermox_mterry: poke poke. I raised my hand to volunteer MIR reviewage.17:46
didrocksmterry: I really think cyphermox_ should join ^17:47
mlankhorstdidrocks: there's always a new mir in the pipeline17:47
didrocksmlankhorst: I guess mterry wants the bug ref17:47
cyphermox_I will obviously need training first17:47
mlankhorstok17:48
mlankhorstmterry: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x11proto-dri3/+bug/127610317:48
mterrydidrocks, I'm happy to add cyphermox_, but I'm not an admin on the team and not sure of the process for new folks17:48
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1276103 in x11proto-present (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libxshmfence, x11proto-present and x11proto-dri3" [Undecided,New]17:48
mterrymlankhorst, thanks, will look at this today17:48
mlankhorstthanks17:48
cyphermox_mterry: doko pinged me earlier about my request to join the team, not sure what the next step might be17:48
didrocksmterry: I was just "added" after you just trained me17:48
attente_Laney, ·17:48
mterrydidrocks, you could have gotten someone else to NEW those packages  :)  I think you planned this17:49
didrocksmterry: unfortunately, just ENOTIME and people were just too busy17:49
didrocksI didn't jump on those :p17:49
mterrydidrocks, I know, not a real accusation  :)17:50
didrocksmterry: but it's my packaging, they all should be awesome :p17:50
didrocks(hem hem)17:50
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mterrymlankhorst, is libxshmfence new code or code that has been split out from X?18:08
mlankhorstmterry: it's a new lib to expose some api new to xorg 1.1518:09
mterrymlankhorst, it seems security sensitive18:10
mlankhorstin what way?18:11
mterrymlankhorst, well I guess it was more of a question.  Is it security sensitive?  Handling shared memory with the X server and all18:13
mlankhorstit's a mmap of a very restricted region, and the area shared is only used with futexes18:13
mterrymlankhorst, ah, I see, the API even restricts it just futexes, you don't get generic access18:18
mlankhorstand the fd passed is one that you already have access to, anyway18:18
mlankhorstanyway it could have been an issue if the xshmfence_await call was called in xorg-server, but it doesn't seem to be18:19
mlankhorstso it's fine :)18:19
mterrymlankhorst, ok all approved18:22
mlankhorstthanks18:24
rsalvetimlankhorst: hey, we're trying to land a new mir in the archive, and just noticed you pushed a new xorg-server18:42
rsalvetimlankhorst: afaik we need xorg-server to be built against the new mir, which was done today in a ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-002/+packages18:42
rsalvetikgunn: ^18:42
rsalvetimlankhorst: so I guess we'd need another package dump in that ppa to make them all compatible18:42
rsalvetikgunn: can you confirm that?18:43
rsalvetiactually, the new xorg-server is waiting on a missing build-dep18:43
kgunnrsalveti: mlankhorst ... yes that's my understanding, altho in this instance it might make sense for sil or didrocks (who aren't around to land as part of this)18:44
kgunnit kind of has to land at once i think18:44
kgunnMirv: you around for a bit? notice didrocks & sil offline....18:50
rsalvetikgunn: I believe everyone is already off, afaik they are all participating at the desktop sprint this week19:20
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rsalvetikgunn: I can probably approve the slot, but we first need to fix this xorg-server issue19:21
rsalvetilooking at that now19:21
kgunnrsalveti: thanks19:27
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rsalvetikgunn: mind joining #ubuntu-release19:41
rsalveti?19:41
mlankhorstxorg-server should be fine20:06
mlankhorstwe're missing some build-deps in main, so you can land mir before it's resolved and xorg-server will pick up the correct abi I think20:06

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