[01:30] <bjf> bug 1275991
[01:30] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1275991 in xorg (Ubuntu) "After upgrading from Raring to Saucy my nvidia graphics will not come up." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1275991
[01:30] <bjf> can anyone help me debug this issue? ^
[05:26] <pitti> Good morning
[07:07] <ritz> Sweetsha1k, wrt https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-advantage/+bug/1275037 . any chance of 4.2 in precise ?
[07:07] <ubot2`> ritz: Error: launchpad bug 1275037 not found
[09:31] <robert_ancell> fginther, hey, can I get you to set up Jenkins merging for lp:unity-control-center and lp:activity-log-manager?
[09:37] <mpt> seb128, reported bug 1276063
[09:37] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1276063 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Mysterious unlabelled switch next to volume slider in "Sound"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1276063
[09:41] <seb128> mpt, thanks
[10:17] <ritz> cyphermox_ ping, pm
[10:43] <robert_ancell> desrt, are you doing the glib update?
[10:44] <seb128> robert_ancell, you want Laney
[10:45] <seb128> robert_ancell, desrt doesn't do packaging
[10:45] <desrt> robert_ancell: mclasen said he'd do the upstream release and Laney will do it in ubuntu
[10:45] <desrt> no work for me!!
[10:45] <Laney> umm
[10:45] <Laney> mclasen said that Laney would do it?
[10:45] <Laney> also, since I'm a manager I don't do this kind of thing
[10:45] <robert_ancell> should I just do it?
[10:45] <Laney> so... desrt will take care of that
[10:45] <desrt> Laney: you were only in charge of the tickets
[10:45] <desrt> sorry
[10:45] <seb128> Laney, that's fine, just give us a name
[10:46] <Laney> oh man, wait, are you talking about a glib update?
[10:46] <Laney> I'm totally doing that
[10:46] <desrt> Laney: ya... 2.41 is ready for upload
[10:46] <desrt> seb128 said it was OK
[10:46] <desrt> since he was so happy about cairo
[10:47] <pstolowski> sil2100, ping
[10:59] <mpt> seb128, the glitch I just showed you with the backgrounds now reported as bug 1276098
[10:59] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1276098 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Sound: Background tints around listboxes and sliders" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1276098
[11:08] <seb128> mpt, thanks
[11:12] <seb128> robert_ancell, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=ubuntu-desktop-trusty
[11:13] <seb128> robert_ancell, I've added some unity-greeter issues to the list so we start having items ;-)
[11:13] <mlankhorst> seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x11proto-dri3/+bug/1276103
[11:13] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1276103 in x11proto-present (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libxshmfence, x11proto-present and x11proto-dri3" [Undecided,New]
[11:13] <sil2100> pstolowski: pong (been on the roof, just got back)
[11:13] <seb128> mlankhorst, thanks
[11:39] <pstolowski> sil2100, hi :)
[11:51]  * mlankhorst pokes seb128
[11:51] <seb128> mlankhorst, what?
[11:51] <mlankhorst> MIR
[11:52] <seb128> mlankhorst, I'm archive-admin, not ubuntui-mir, I can't promote those until they are approved
[11:52] <mlankhorst> ok
[11:52] <seb128> mlankhorst, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mir/+members#active
[11:53] <mlankhorst> yeah I'll poke some people
[12:19] <mlankhorst> didrocks: poke
[12:21] <seb128> Trevinho_, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2014-February/004423.html (just for info)
[12:24] <Trevinho_> seb128: cool, thanks!!
[12:24] <seb128> Trevinho_, yw!
[12:24] <Trevinho_> seb128: why didn't you come to FOSDEM btw? :)
[12:25] <seb128> Trevinho, because we are in London this week and I had my flight booked
[12:25] <seb128> next year maybe ;-)
[12:25] <Trevinho> seb128: ah, yeah... I've been told that.
[12:25] <Trevinho> ok, sounds fine! :)
[12:25] <seb128> Trevinho, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/3.8.6.1-0ubuntu3 btw
[12:36] <Trevinho> seb128: cool, that's great as well!
[12:37] <Trevinho> seb128: we tried to handle that per each monitor in unity, but for global settings that would be good
[12:42] <larsu> Trevinho: hi! Did you notice that you can't resize windows with client-side decorations? (like the new gnome apps)
[12:43] <larsu> there's some extension that needs to be supported (frame extents?!) - are there any plans to do that for the lts?
[12:43] <larsu> to compiz, I mean
[12:43] <Trevinho> larsu: mh, nope.... what can I try?
[12:43] <larsu> Trevinho: gnome-tweak-tool or gnome-clocks
[12:43] <Trevinho> (from ubuntu archive)
[12:43] <Trevinho> ok
[12:44] <Trevinho> larsu: I guess you're talking about archive-unity not trunk-unity, right?
[12:45] <larsu> yes
[12:45] <larsu> unity in trusty
[12:45] <larsu> I'm guessing this is something that compiz needs to support, right?
[12:45] <Trevinho> larsu: well, I've completely rewritten that part... So, let me check what's the status here
[12:45] <Trevinho> as I've changed the things a lot
[12:46] <Trevinho> and it's in unity now
[12:46] <Trevinho> but not in the archive
[12:46] <larsu> cool - does it work with unity trunk?
[12:46] <Trevinho> larsu: let me check; as the g-tweak-tool version I had here was not using the client side decorations
[12:48] <larsu> Trevinho: thanks! We're going to lunch now. ttyl
[12:51] <Trevinho> larsu: ok.. just tried gnome-clocks, no resizable here... THat's because there are no hints set on it I guess...
[12:53] <Trevinho> oh, well.. no that's because there are no frames set... I'll check that in the deep after FF. Please assign me a bug for that though
[13:32]  * mlankhorst pokes didrocks 
[13:35] <didrocks> mlankhorst: I'm not around :p
[13:35] <mlankhorst> iemand anders ;D
[13:35]  * mlankhorst pokes didrocks 
[13:36] <mlankhorst> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x11proto-dri3/+bug/1276103
[13:37] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1276103 in x11proto-present (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libxshmfence, x11proto-present and x11proto-dri3" [Undecided,New]
[13:40]  * mlankhorst uses subliminal messaging to didrocks 
[14:27] <robert_ancell> Laney, lp:~robert-ancell/gnome-desktop/brightness-fix
[14:33] <larsu> Trevinho: thanks for looking into it! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1276177
[14:33] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1276177 in unity (Ubuntu) "Applications using client-side decorations are not resizable in Unity" [Undecided,New]
[14:34] <bjf> i've just installed Trusty on a system with Nvidia and it came up with a low-res dialog which i can't select and no way to get to the graphics desktop
[14:36] <bjf> mlankhorst, ^
[14:37] <mlankhorst> bjf: needs more info, did you regenerate the initramfs after installing nvidia drivers?
[14:38] <bjf> mlankhorst, this is a fresh install using the nouveau driver
[14:38] <bjf> mlankhorst, so yes, that should have happened
[14:39] <mlankhorst> nouveau should not be loaded and a nvidia driver should show up in lsmod
[14:39] <bjf> mlankhorst, nouveau shows up
[14:39] <mlankhorst> well there you go then :p
[14:40] <mlankhorst> update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf
[14:40] <bjf> mlankhorst, i'm not following, are you saing nouveau is not the default ?
[14:40] <mlankhorst> oh :P
[14:40] <mlankhorst> thought you were using the blob drivers
[14:40] <mlankhorst> can you paste the Xorg.0.log ?
[14:41] <bjf> mlankhorst, yes
[14:44] <bjf> pastebinit
[14:45] <bjf> mlankhorst, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6873381/
[14:46] <mlankhorst> looks correct
[14:47] <mlankhorst> if there's a problem, it's not on the driver side, you have to look at the login or session
[14:48] <bjf> mlankhorst, i'm looking at lightdm.log and there is "Session stopped .. Stopping; failed to start a greeter"
[14:49] <bjf> mlankhorst, if this isn't a driver issue at this point can you point me at someone else i should be hasseling about this?
[14:49] <mlankhorst> some gnome maintainer or the lightdm people?
[14:57] <bjf> pitti, ^ any idea who can help me? i see issues in lightdm.log and errors in x-0-greeter.log
[14:57] <bjf> pitti, this is with a daily live image i just downloaded and installed
[14:58] <pitti> bjf: robert_ancell is the primary lightdm developer
[14:58] <bjf> pitti, thanks
[14:59] <robert_ancell> bjf, that sounds like your X server failed to start, so LightDM gave up
[14:59] <bjf> robert_ancell, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6873423/
[14:59] <bjf> robert_ancell, where do i look for x server logs?
[15:00] <robert_ancell> bjf, /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log and /var/log/Xorg*.log
[15:00] <robert_ancell> the latter has more details
[15:00] <bjf> robert_ancell, see above with mlankhorst, the driver looks like it came up good
[15:01] <robert_ancell> bjf, that paste is the greeter log which is less useful without seeing the lightdm.log first
[15:01] <bjf> robert_ancell, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6873421/   lightdm.log
[15:04] <robert_ancell> bjf, ok, so your greeter quit after 30s. The log shows the indicators going mental
[15:05] <robert_ancell> and it 22s to render the background
[15:06] <robert_ancell> bjf, so I'd look for general problems on your system, i.e. running out of memory, processes using 100% CPU
[15:07] <Trevinho> larsu: np
[15:07] <bjf> robert_ancell, how do i get it to try again while i monitor my system?
[15:08] <robert_ancell> bjf, sudo restart lightdm
[15:08] <Trevinho> larsu: ah, here I'm often getting hud-service on 100% cpu... did you expereience that so far=
[15:08] <Trevinho> ?
[15:08] <bjf> robert_ancell, is this part of the problem or just a symptom: unity-greeter[1194]: segfault at 18 ip 00007fcf7f218a50 sp 00007fff64d39278 error 4 in libgdk-3.so.0.1000.7[7fcf7f1e0000+a0000]
[15:09] <robert_ancell> that looks like the problem
[15:09] <bjf> robert_ancell, that is in the syslog
[15:09] <robert_ancell> bjf, is there a crash entry in /var/crash?
[15:10] <bjf> robert_ancell, yes
[15:11] <robert_ancell> pitti, ^ how do you report a bug from the command line>?
[15:11] <robert_ancell> that crash entry should tell why u-g has segfaulted
[15:11] <larsu> Trevinho: no... ask ted about that please :)
[15:11] <pitti> bjf: run apport-bug /var/crash/... (as sudo if it's a crash from root, which is likely)
[15:11] <robert_ancell> pitti, it will be the lightdm user
[15:11] <pitti> bjf: that'll upload it to errors.u.c. and also try to upload to LP, but of course that won't get you very far
[15:12] <bjf> pitti, robert_ancell doing that now
[15:12] <pitti> bjf: after you ran ubuntu-bug, you can scp the .crash file someplace else and run ubuntu-bug on that one on a different box with X/firefox
[15:12] <pitti> but it's important that you run the data collection on the affected machine
[15:12] <bjf> pitti, ack
[15:18] <bjf> robert_ancell, bug 1276202
[15:18] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1276202 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "unity-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_window_get_type_hint()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1276202
[15:19] <robert_ancell> bjf, looks like bug 1048131
[15:19] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1048131 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "unity-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_window_get_type_hint()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048131
[15:21] <bjf> robert_ancell, ok, any workaround? this is my main desktop system
[15:21] <robert_ancell> bjf, try installing lightdm-gtk-greeter
[15:22] <bjf> robert_ancell, ack
[15:25] <robert_ancell> bjf, I think I will have a fix for this, can you test in ~1hr?
[15:25] <bjf> robert_ancell, yes
[15:25] <robert_ancell> thanks
[15:25] <bjf> robert_ancell, it's the start of my day... here all day :-)
[15:26] <bjf> robert_ancell, and the lightdm-gtk-greeter worked
[15:26] <robert_ancell> great
[15:34] <qengho> cyphermox_:  http://grepcode.com/file/repository.grepcode.com/java/ext/com.google.android/android/4.0.1_r1/android/net/wifi/WifiWatchdogStateMachine.java#WifiWatchdogStateMachine.isWalledGardenConnection%28%29
[15:35] <cyphermox_> yeah, I have it bookmarked I think
[15:36] <cyphermox_> I probably need to fit in a few more safety chekcs though, like dns timeouts and the like
[15:36] <cyphermox_> will eventually get back to that code, but for now it's blocking more important bugfixes I want to land
[15:51] <Trevinho> tedg: I'm getting hud-service to use 100% of my CPU quite often... I don't have debg symbols here yet, but this seems to happen http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6873661/ (if it helps)
[15:52] <tedg> Trevinho, You'll probably need to grab pete-woods, he's the go-to guy for HUD right now.
[15:53] <Trevinho> tedg: ah, ok thanks
[16:10] <mpt> tedg, could you update the description of <https://launchpad.net/appmenu-gtk> to clarify whether it is used in Unity?
[16:10] <mpt> “Title says it all” is unfortunately far from true.
[16:12] <tedg> mpt, Heh, sure.
[16:13] <tedg> mpt, Updated
[16:13] <mpt> thanks
[16:14] <mitya57> Laney: Hi, I've subscribed you to telepathy-qt MP as you were the author of "build against farstream 0.4" upload. Can you please comment there?
[16:14] <Laney> umm
[16:16] <mitya57> Ohh, that calligra FTBFS is going to block the poppler transition again :(
[16:18] <Laney> mitya57: ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I don't remember this upload
[16:19] <Laney> where is it?
[16:41] <Laney> mitya57: The 0.4 split package was only because of the gstreamer 0.10/1.0 split as far as I'm concerned
[16:44] <mitya57> Laney: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-qt/0.9.3-0ubuntu3
[16:44] <mitya57> OK, let's sync and see if something breaks then
[16:44] <mitya57> Well, first wait for Quintasan's upstream poking
[16:45] <Laney> hang on
[16:47] <Laney> mitya57: if it's gstreamer 0.10 still then you want to stay on the split package
[16:47] <Laney> having 0.10 and 1.0 in the same process is bad
[16:51] <robert_ancell> bjf, are you OK building unity-greeter from a branch?
[16:52] <mitya57> Laney: hmm, I will look if telepathy-qt uses gstreamer 0.10
[16:52] <Laney> pretty sure all the qtgstreamer stuff hasn't been ported yet
[16:53] <bjf> robert_ancell, that would be new for me
[16:54] <bjf> robert_ancell, but i'm willing to give it a spin
[16:55] <robert_ancell> bjf, ok, I'll write up some instructions
[16:55] <bjf> robert_ancell, thanks
[16:56] <mpt> tedg, I guess <https://launchpad.net/indicator-appmenu> isn’t used in Unity either?
[16:56] <tedg> mpt, It is currently, and I don't think it's going to get replaced this cycle.
[16:57] <tedg> mpt, Hopefully next
[16:57] <ricotz> chrisccoulson, hi :), please push firefox/thunderbird ppa builds for trusty too if they won't get there yet
[16:59] <robert_ancell> bjf, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6873963/
[16:59] <bjf> robert_ancell, ack, i'll get right on it
[17:01] <robert_ancell> bjf, oh, and uninstall lightdm-gtk-greeter to switch back to unity-greeter
[17:01] <bjf> robert_ancell, ack
[17:03] <robert_ancell> fginther, hey, did you see my jenkins request?
[17:04] <fginther> robert_ancell, yep, it's on the queue for the day. Next time go ahead and ping the vanguard in one of the ci IRC channels so it's less likely to be lost if my IRC window scrolls away  :-)
[17:05] <robert_ancell> fginther, ok, cool. Is IRC the best way to request or email?
[17:08] <fginther> robert_ancell, irc is probably better for small things like this. (it might not be done right away, but someone can add it to correct queue)
[17:08] <robert_ancell> k
[17:09] <mlankhorst> must find ubuntu-mir member..
[17:14] <fginther> robert_ancell, are both of these projects drivin by canonical?
[17:15] <robert_ancell> fginther, lp:unity-control-center yes, and lp:activity-log-manager is abandoned and we are the only consumer so we're effectively driving it
[17:15] <fginther> robert_ancell, ok, ps-jenkins will need to be a member of the appropriate team to do merges and testing
[17:16] <robert_ancell> fginther, np
[17:16] <robert_ancell> I'll do that now
[17:16] <fginther> robert_ancell, thanks
[17:17] <fginther> robert_ancell, are both of these unity 7 related?
[17:17] <robert_ancell> fginther, yes
[17:17] <robert_ancell> only Unity 8
[17:17] <robert_ancell> only Unity 7 I mean
[17:17] <fginther> robert_ancell, cool, just trying to find an appropriate location for the meta data
[17:32]  * mlankhorst pokes didrocks 
[17:40] <bjf> robert_ancell, that does appear to resolve my issue
[17:41] <bjf> robert_ancell, i'd love to understand why it takes so very long to get the greeter up and then the full desktop up. there are some really long delays
[17:41] <bjf> robert_ancell, but that's for another time
[17:42] <robert_ancell> bjf, great, thanks!
[17:42] <bjf> robert_ancell, np and thank _you_
[17:42] <robert_ancell> bjf, I think in your case there might be some problems with the indicators that are triggering the bug
[17:42] <robert_ancell> and the background rendering is taking ages for some reason
[17:43] <bjf> robert_ancell, this is a really beefy system, 12 cores, 32G of mem
[17:43] <robert_ancell> yeah, it should be instantaneous
[17:43] <bjf> robert_ancell, so i don't think it's underpowered
[17:43] <robert_ancell> is the IO going crazy?
[17:44] <bjf> robert_ancell, not that i can tell ... could it be network related some how?
[17:44] <didrocks> mterry: hey, seems mlankhorst has an urgent MIR I can't deal with FYI (I think he can provide the bug #)
[17:44]  * mterry looks at mlankhorst
[17:44] <mpt> cyphermox_, reported bug 1276267
[17:44] <robert_ancell> bjf, I don't think so according to the logs you showed me
[17:44] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1276267 in bluez (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth works, but System Settings can't turn it on" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1276267
[17:45] <didrocks> mlankhorst: also, don't upload any xorg, I know kgunn is trying to land a Mir (not MIR) needing a rebuild and he's doing it now
[17:45] <mterry> didrocks, btw, so many MIRs coming down the pipeline...
[17:45] <mpt> A murmur of Mirs
[17:45] <didrocks> mpt: I know…
[17:46] <didrocks> mterry: ^
[17:46] <didrocks> mterry: but I NEWed most of them
[17:46] <didrocks> mterry: so, I'm afraid it will be for you guys, I don't want to NEW and review the MIR
[17:46] <cyphermox_> mpt: thanks
[17:46] <Laney> cunning
[17:46] <Laney> very cunning
[17:46] <didrocks> that would be doing the packaging
[17:46] <didrocks> telling "oh this package is good for ubuntu"
[17:46] <didrocks> and then "oh, we can support this awesome package!" :)
[17:46] <cyphermox_> mterry: poke poke. I raised my hand to volunteer MIR reviewage.
[17:47] <didrocks> mterry: I really think cyphermox_ should join ^
[17:47] <mlankhorst> didrocks: there's always a new mir in the pipeline
[17:47] <didrocks> mlankhorst: I guess mterry wants the bug ref
[17:47] <cyphermox_> I will obviously need training first
[17:48] <mlankhorst> ok
[17:48] <mlankhorst> mterry: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x11proto-dri3/+bug/1276103
[17:48] <mterry> didrocks, I'm happy to add cyphermox_, but I'm not an admin on the team and not sure of the process for new folks
[17:48] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1276103 in x11proto-present (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libxshmfence, x11proto-present and x11proto-dri3" [Undecided,New]
[17:48] <mterry> mlankhorst, thanks, will look at this today
[17:48] <mlankhorst> thanks
[17:48] <cyphermox_> mterry: doko pinged me earlier about my request to join the team, not sure what the next step might be
[17:48] <didrocks> mterry: I was just "added" after you just trained me
[17:48] <attente_> Laney, ·
[17:49] <mterry> didrocks, you could have gotten someone else to NEW those packages  :)  I think you planned this
[17:49] <didrocks> mterry: unfortunately, just ENOTIME and people were just too busy
[17:49] <didrocks> I didn't jump on those :p
[17:50] <mterry> didrocks, I know, not a real accusation  :)
[17:50] <didrocks> mterry: but it's my packaging, they all should be awesome :p
[17:50] <didrocks> (hem hem)
[18:08] <mterry> mlankhorst, is libxshmfence new code or code that has been split out from X?
[18:09] <mlankhorst> mterry: it's a new lib to expose some api new to xorg 1.15
[18:10] <mterry> mlankhorst, it seems security sensitive
[18:11] <mlankhorst> in what way?
[18:13] <mterry> mlankhorst, well I guess it was more of a question.  Is it security sensitive?  Handling shared memory with the X server and all
[18:13] <mlankhorst> it's a mmap of a very restricted region, and the area shared is only used with futexes
[18:18] <mterry> mlankhorst, ah, I see, the API even restricts it just futexes, you don't get generic access
[18:18] <mlankhorst> and the fd passed is one that you already have access to, anyway
[18:19] <mlankhorst> anyway it could have been an issue if the xshmfence_await call was called in xorg-server, but it doesn't seem to be
[18:19] <mlankhorst> so it's fine :)
[18:22] <mterry> mlankhorst, ok all approved
[18:24] <mlankhorst> thanks
[18:42] <rsalveti> mlankhorst: hey, we're trying to land a new mir in the archive, and just noticed you pushed a new xorg-server
[18:42] <rsalveti> mlankhorst: afaik we need xorg-server to be built against the new mir, which was done today in a ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-002/+packages
[18:42] <rsalveti> kgunn: ^
[18:42] <rsalveti> mlankhorst: so I guess we'd need another package dump in that ppa to make them all compatible
[18:43] <rsalveti> kgunn: can you confirm that?
[18:43] <rsalveti> actually, the new xorg-server is waiting on a missing build-dep
[18:44] <kgunn> rsalveti: mlankhorst ... yes that's my understanding, altho in this instance it might make sense for sil or didrocks (who aren't around to land as part of this)
[18:44] <kgunn> it kind of has to land at once i think
[18:50] <kgunn> Mirv: you around for a bit? notice didrocks & sil offline....
[19:20] <rsalveti> kgunn: I believe everyone is already off, afaik they are all participating at the desktop sprint this week
[19:21] <rsalveti> kgunn: I can probably approve the slot, but we first need to fix this xorg-server issue
[19:21] <rsalveti> looking at that now
[19:27] <kgunn> rsalveti: thanks
[19:41] <rsalveti> kgunn: mind joining #ubuntu-release
[19:41] <rsalveti> ?
[20:06] <mlankhorst> xorg-server should be fine
[20:06] <mlankhorst> we're missing some build-deps in main, so you can land mir before it's resolved and xorg-server will pick up the correct abi I think