[08:37] <ESphynx> http://askubuntu.com/questions/411398/dpkg-source-error-cant-build-with-source-format-3-0-native-native-package  --> I'm getting that same issue now on Trusty, any clue?
[08:40] <ESphynx> just need to fix 3.0 (quilt) -> 3.0 (native) is it?
[08:46] <geser> ESphynx: do you have a native or non-native package format?
[08:47] <ESphynx> geser: what's a native package format?
[08:48] <geser> non-native: .orig.tar.xz (or otherwise compressed) + .debian.tar.xz ; native: only one .tar.xz
[08:48] <ESphynx> geser: https://github.com/ecere/ecere-sdk/tree/ppa/precise/debian  This is my package there for that Ubuntu PPA
[08:48] <ESphynx> It's a launchpad PPA
[08:49] <ESphynx> This is the recipe: https://code.launchpad.net/~jerstlouis/+recipe/ecere-daily-precise
[08:50] <geser> as you specified "3.0 (native)" in your debian/format you need a package version without a revision (trusty's dpkg enforced it; see Debian bug #700177)
[08:50] <ESphynx> geser: I had 'quilt' there, I just change it to native
[08:51] <geser> did you get the same error with quilt?
[08:51] <ESphynx> I was getting the error with quilt, I thought I had to change it to native to fix it.
[08:51] <ESphynx> as per https://code.google.com/p/pymds/issues/detail?id=1
[08:51] <geser> as I didn't work with recipes yes, I'm not sure if recipes work with "3.0 (quilt)"
[08:52] <ESphynx> i was getting the error with quilt
[08:53] <geser> then you need a version without the "-", something like "{time}+0~{revno}" should hopefully work
[08:53] <ESphynx> well I'll wait for this built to try to see if changing to native should work?
[08:54] <ESphynx> if quilt didn't work native should, right? :P
[08:54] <geser> you need probably both changes
[08:54] <ESphynx> I'll try that next, then :P
[08:54] <ESphynx> thanks!
[08:55] <geser> "3.0 (quilt)" and a version with a revision (contains a "-") or "3.0 (native)" without a revision (contains no "-")
[08:56] <geser> I guess the recipe documentation should get updated for this
[08:57] <geser> wgrant: ^^
[09:16] <ESphynx> geser: So how could I get that thing to build without changing the version format?
[10:03] <geser> for trusty? I guess not at all as dpkg won't accept "3.0 (native)" with a non-native version anymore
[10:14] <ESphynx> geser: I read something about a pristine tarball or something, looks complicated to set up though :P
[10:14] <ESphynx> So I just went with your suggestion of s/-/+
[10:14] <ESphynx> also reverted by quilt->native
[10:18] <ESphynx> xnox: ping :P
[10:18] <xnox> ESphynx: hey!
[10:18] <ESphynx> xnox: Hey can you help me out this time? ;)
[10:18] <ESphynx> I just realized the Debian import freeze is in 2 days ;P
[10:19] <xnox> ESphynx: yeah, and so is e.g. 12.04.4 point release.
[10:19] <ESphynx> And Tahr is an LTS I'd really like to make it...
[10:20] <ESphynx> http://ecere.com/mantis/roadmap_page.php --> we got 18 issues I want to fix for ecere-sdk 0.44.10
[10:20] <ESphynx> 12.04.4 point release?
[10:21] <ESphynx> point releases now eh
[10:21] <xnox> ESphynx: LTS always had point releases. Yeah, it's just something I'm involved in at the moment.
[10:21] <ESphynx> ah cool
[10:21] <ESphynx> xnox: Do you think you can help us out?
[10:21] <xnox> ESphynx: i can sponsor a package if you have one ready.
[10:22] <ESphynx> I don't have one ready right now, I have to fix those 18 issues ;P
[10:22] <xnox> ESphynx: i'm not going to code ecere ;-)
[10:22] <ESphynx> xnox: I mean if I get you a package in 2 days
[10:22] <ESphynx> can you swiftly sponsor it? ;)
[10:22] <xnox> ESphynx: well, less chatting & more coding ;-)
[10:22] <ESphynx> because the last 2 tiemes it rotted on debian.mentors till it got dropped :P
[10:23] <ESphynx> and I'd like to coordinate with you the time ;) do I have 2 days to get it ready?
[10:23] <xnox> ESphynx: we can wiggle that, just get it working.
[10:24] <ESphynx> cool! thanks. Yeah we're release-crunching on these remaining issues now. This is the all issues ironed out 64 bit release.
[10:26] <geser> ESphynx: on DIF only the automatic import from Debian stops, you still have time till Feature Freeze to get it synced from Debian manually or get an upload sponsored
[10:27] <ESphynx> geser: Yeah, I know... Thanks for clarifying that :) better play it safe though :)
[10:27] <ESphynx> I'm giving us 2 days to get those issues out of the way :)
[10:41] <Rhonda> Laney …  do you know what it would take to create a launchpad "project" for the packages.ubuntu.com website?
[10:41] <Rhonda> I would like to direct people there, especially in the light of wearing out discussion with the reporter of #1275506
[10:42] <Rhonda> And I don't get the reasoning of "the codename is only valid for the development cycle".
[10:42] <Laney> Rhonda: You can make it on the homepage of launchpad.net
[10:42] <Rhonda> Of *course* it is valid all together, otherwise the sources.list wouldn't work.
[10:42] <Laney> Maybe you want a 'team' to own it so it's not just you
[10:42] <Laney> in which case create that first
[10:43] <Rhonda> Yes, that would be great.
[10:44] <Laney> ah, then you can take your email address off the page
[10:44] <Laney> and just direct people to LP
[10:44] <Rhonda> I like it that you think along. ;)
[10:47] <Rhonda> aaaahyes
[10:48] <Rhonda> "You must specify a default renewal period from 1 to 3650 days." - why does it say (optional) next to it then.  >.>
[10:50] <Rhonda> So how to create project under the team umbrella?
[10:50] <Laney> I guess it means that expiry is optional
[10:56] <Laney> you make the project and then can somewhere set the owner and stuff
[10:56] <Laney> I can't remember exactly how
[10:57] <ESphynx> does anyone know what happened to freetype/ttunpat.h ? where would be better place to ask , #freetype is invite only :\
[11:04] <Rhonda> Laney: ah, found it, thanks! :)
[11:04] <Rhonda> "pkg-website doesn't use Launchpad to track its bugs."
[11:05] <Laney> you can turn it on somewhere
[11:05] <Rhonda> Hmm, now I just need to figure out how to tell launchpad that it actually does. :)
[11:05] <Rhonda> found it :)
[11:06] <Rhonda> What does "Import a branch hosted somewhere else" actually do?
[11:06] <Rhonda> Does it really import it and make it appear like it's maintained in launchpad/bazaar, or will it just link?
[11:07] <Laney> it'll try and import it
[11:08] <Rhonda> duh, I'll try to remove it again, that's not what I wanted.  %-/
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