[00:01] <nikolam> 12.10 64-bit GRUB2 setting in /etc/default/grub with GRUB_BADRAM= does not have affect on the RAM available to kernel upon boot (done update-gub)
[00:02] <nikolam> only first memmap= have affect and not the second.
[00:04] <TJ-> nikolam: show us "cat /proc/cmdline"
[00:06] <nikolam> $ cat /proc/cmdline
[00:06] <nikolam> BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.5.0-45-generic root=UUID=600688d1-ae5e-44d8-bbd1-59110027c3e8 ro rootflags=subvol=@ memmap=0x8000000$0x10000000 quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[00:07] <nikolam> hi TJ-
[00:08] <nikolam> I updated 12.10, using just first range blocked, like that.
[00:11] <TJ-> nikolam: And what does this show? "grep GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX /etc/default/grub"
[00:13] <nikolam> TJ-, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[00:13] <nikolam> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX='memmap=0x8000000\$0x10000000'
[00:13] <nikolam> bu adding second memmap= does not work
[00:14] <TJ-> nikolam: Does not work in what way? Does it appear in "/proc/cmdline" after boot, suggesting the kernel ignored it, or if it doesn't show up, that suggests update-grub processed the setting incorrectly
[00:14] <nikolam> so I tried with GRUB_BADRAM= and I somehow made it work once ( I think after 2 reboots to GRUB) but it stopped working after.
[00:15] <nikolam> it shows up on GRUB2 menu (second memmap) but kernel does not boot with second memmap. if halts/not showing picture on screen
[00:17] <nikolam> Most mysterious part is that I somehow maanged to mask out both regions, by combining memmap= and GRUB_BADRAM= lines, and by editing GRUB 2 menu line before boot. But was not able to reproduce it again.
[00:17] <TJ-> nikolam: If the RAM is bad why not replace it?
[00:17] <nikolam> TJ-, I am searching for the RAM I need but for now, I have this.
[00:18] <nikolam> Alos it worked perfectly fine on 12.04 with 2 memmap= lines
[00:18] <TJ-> nikolam: OK, that makes sense ... see this for why GRUB_BADRAM works: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/badram.html
[00:18] <nikolam> It would be interesting to see how it works on 13.10 and lates
[00:19] <TJ-> niko: You should use GRUB_BADRAM instead of memmap
[00:19] <nikolam> well, I tried, It does not have affect on mapping un/available RAM.
[00:19] <nikolam> I used sudo update-grub after editing /etc/default/grub
[00:20] <nikolam> Maybe this line is no good for masking 2 128MiB  ranges? GRUB_BADRAM="0x10000000,0xf7000000,0x30000000,0xf7000000"
[00:22] <_2cool4me4_> Is there an alternate install CD for ubuntu 13.10? I'm getting the "Unable to find medium containing a live file system" error
[00:23] <leadnpotatoes> _2cool4me4_: Have you tried a different disk in your drive?
[00:23] <glitsj16> nikolam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BadRAM might help on how masking works, also the first link on that page shows a way to use memmap, but the syntax there uses \\\$
[00:24] <_2cool4me4_> leadnpotatoes, I'm using a live ISO that I put on the disk with Unetbootin
[00:24] <leadnpotatoes> So this is from a flash drive and not a CD right?
[00:24] <zykotick9> _2cool4me4_: try without unetbootin
[00:25] <leadnpotatoes> Live USB
[00:25] <nikolam> glitsj16, Yes I was reading that page at the bottom for masking. An I will try \\\ , thanks.
[00:25] <_2cool4me4_> leadnpotatoes, Yes
[00:25] <_2cool4me4_> zykotick9, I'm on a Windows partition right now. Not sure how else to do it.
[00:26] <leadnpotatoes> _2cool4me4_: yeah have you tried an alternative to unetbootin? Like this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[00:26] <zykotick9> _2cool4me4_: ummm, i'd guess there are alternatives (but i certainly don't know them).  that error you're getting is common with unetbootin.
[00:28] <leadnpotatoes> Yeah, Pen drive is what I use, it hasn't given me trouble yet.
[00:28] <_2cool4me4_> Okay. I'm trying that out. Unfortunately, I'll have to go soon, so I won't be able to report back.
[00:29] <tds5016> hi all. can someone tell me if there is a way to get the process description given in a .conf file?
[00:29] <tds5016> using initctl*
[00:31] <CrazyGangster> !job
[00:31] <tds5016> !job?
[00:31] <CrazyGangster> !jobs
[00:31] <tds5016> !jobs?
[00:32] <k1l> !ot | CrazyGangster tds5016
[00:32] <xmetal> hello ..... finally got back in freenode ... seems the chat room is invite only
[00:37] <antonio__> hey everyone...
[00:38] <antonio__> I'm trying to get rid of some annoying Chitika popup ads on Firefox on Ubuntu...not really sure how
[00:38] <antonio__> These are the ads I'm getting http://reverseinternet.com/domain/www.truthaboutabs.com
[00:38] <glitsj16> tds5016: i don't think initctl has a way to get to the job description, so i think you'll need to just cat & grep for it
[00:38] <antonio__> You'll see a Chitika ad window on the bottom right hand corner...
[00:39] <tds5016> that's unfortunate.
[00:39] <tds5016> why wouuld it give you as a think to add in the .conf?
[00:40] <glitsj16> tds5016: i guess the description is for us humans :) .. purely descriptive
[00:40] <tds5016> yeah. I mean if we're writing it there should be a way to get it :-/.
[00:41] <glitsj16> tds5016: and it isn't needed, a job will run pefectly fine without a description
[00:41] <glitsj16> there is, just cat the job conf and grep for it
[00:41] <Beldar> antonio__, probably flash based I use the noscript addon to block flash.
[00:42] <tds5016> yeah. that's just a really ugly way to handle it when trying to do this programatically.
[00:42] <antonio__> beldar: is that with greasemonkey?
[00:42] <tds5016> iit's not bad to have; it would just be a worthwhile functionality.
[00:42] <Beldar> antonio__, Firefox
[00:42] <glitsj16> tds5016: why ugly? initctl is strictly for daemon control, not for parsing descriptions
[00:43] <tds5016> well, if you are writing a service description it seems that it would be good for humans to be able to read.
[00:43] <tds5016> so if you see something like myService.x you know what the hell mySErvice.x is.
[00:43] <tds5016> :-)
[00:43] <antonio__> beldar: noscript security suite?
[00:44] <Beldar> antonio__, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/
[00:46] <glitsj16> tds5016: ofcourse, but what is so ugly about a "cat /etc/init/myService | grep description" ? the description is limited to 1 line anyway in upstart, so you don't need to realyy work that hard ;)
[00:46] <antonio__> thanks beldar: worked a charm!
[00:47] <tds5016> glitsj16: it's not about the work; it's just not incredibly programatic. and that's also assuming I do this with bash.
[00:47] <tds5016> with C/C++ it's a mess of code.
[00:47] <tds5016> not that it's hard.
[00:47] <tds5016> it's just a pain.
[00:47] <tds5016> lol.
[00:47] <tds5016> and then you're doing file io
[00:47] <robert4709> is this an appropriate place to ask about ftp?
[00:47] <tds5016> which is more than a little slow.
[00:49] <robert4709> i guess ill just aske the question then Using the filezilla ftp server my client gets to the passive mode then drops before there is a directory listing same behavior from local solutions?
[00:54] <ki7rw> how does one upgrade an installed package with a tarball? i tried to upgrade portaudio only to end up removing necessary packages (dependacies) which caused me to have to reinstall the OS
[00:56] <ki7rw> i suppose that i should say that i was trying to remove the portaudio packages and ended up removing depenancies that prevented the PC from booting up
[00:57]  * ki7rw is having sound card issues
[00:59] <robert4709> i guess ill just aske the question then Using the filezilla ftp server my client gets to the passive mode then drops before there is a directory listing same behavior from local solutions?
[01:06] <robert4709> Using the filezilla ftp server my client gets to the passive mode then drops before there is a directory listing same behavior from local any suggested solutions?
[01:07] <jc_> a[[o
[01:08] <TJ-> glitsj16: If you see nikolam return, can you tell him to use "memap=size$start,size$start" *not* "memmap=size$start memmap=size$start" - there should be one key and the values should be comma-separated
[01:09] <dupingping> hi
[01:09] <dupingping> how to launch chromium browser with root priviliage.
[01:10] <robert4709> sudo chromium
[01:10] <glitsj16> TJ-: will do, i'll be around for a while
[01:10] <dupingping> then,
[01:11] <xangua> !gksu | robert4709 dupingping
[01:11] <dupingping> I logged in root.
[01:11] <dupingping> and
[01:12] <robert4709> uess no one here knows about ftps...
[01:12] <dupingping> It's not run in root priviliage
[01:12] <robert4709> guess*
[01:12] <dupingping> robert4709:
[01:12] <dupingping> deteils.
[01:12] <robert4709> @dupingping ask xangua
[01:13] <dupingping> oh
[01:13] <xangua> dupingping: why would you log in as root¿
[01:13] <dupingping> I'm a super python developer
[01:13] <glitsj16> dupingping: why on earth would you use abrowser as root?
[01:14] <dupingping> I like to login as root. and I need it.
[01:14] <xangua> no you don't, and also that is unsuported here dupingping
[01:15] <glitsj16> i like ice-cream, but i don't eat it thru the ears :)
[01:15] <dupingping> xangua: ?
[01:15] <dupingping> what?
[01:15] <dupingping> glitsj16: what?
[01:16] <glitsj16> dupingping: as a developer you should be aware of the security risks and act accordingly
[01:16] <dupingping> oh!
[01:17] <dupingping> But
[01:17] <dupingping> No way to run in root?
[01:18] <glitsj16> use sudo, that's all it takes
[01:18] <dupingping> No configuration?
[01:18] <dupingping> No, sudo doesnot run chromium
[01:19] <dupingping> Show error message: run with out root.
[01:19] <glitsj16> dupingping: i wasn't refering to chromium .. have you tried running it as a regular user?
[01:20] <dupingping> oh, it can run in regular user. but,
[01:20] <dupingping> I need to run in root.
[01:21] <glitsj16> dupingping: why exactly?
[01:21] <dupingping> oh, I am developing a program in root priv
[01:22] <dupingping> This program is run in root priv.
[01:22] <glitsj16> dupingping: and where does a browser come in?
[01:22] <dupingping> I am developping ubuntu fuse ftp.
[01:24] <dupingping> No, sometimes, while write the program, I refer to web.
[01:24] <dupingping> because it's convenience.
[01:25] <dupingping> ofcourse
[01:26] <dupingping> there are many risks.
[01:26] <dupingping> but, I need develop speed, too.
[01:27] <profligacy> What is a window manager exactly?
[01:27] <profligacy> ANd why is it important which one you choose?
[01:28] <endofcake> dupingping, just run a root session inside a terminal if you so desire, and use chromium as a regular user
[01:29] <endofcake> profligacy, what do you mean by that?
[01:29] <profligacy> what's a window manager
[01:29] <dupingping> ok, ok.
[01:29] <profligacy> i need something that locks windows when I drag them to the left of the scerenn the way Windows does
[01:30] <dupingping> window manager is a program that
[01:30] <dupingping> manage top level windows on your screen.
[01:30] <jcress> I have a fresh install of bodhi.  when I try to run python with /usr/bin/python I get an ImportError: No module named site
[01:31] <dupingping> windows' width, height, level, type...
[01:31] <daftykins> dupingping: please type more on one line, pressing enter less
[01:31] <TJ-> dupingping: Are you aware that Ubuntu already has a fuse FTP file-system ?
[01:31] <dupingping> yes
[01:31] <dupingping> but
[01:32] <dupingping> it's a slowly one.
[01:32] <dupingping> with perl.
[01:32] <daftykins> dupingping: what did i just say?
[01:32] <Celso> hi guys! to enable the Dynamic power manager on the OSS radeon driver do i still need to add the smc.bin file or is no longer needed? do i need to add the kernel line on boot too?
[01:32] <dupingping> I am developing very fast fuseftp with C.
[01:33] <dupingping> TJ-: what about your think/
[01:34] <dupingping> daftykins: what?
[01:34] <Kingen> Greetings, this is Månegarm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi49Xo0MzhA
[01:36] <Celso> hi guys! to enable the Dynamic power manager on the OSS radeon driver do i still need to add the smc.bin file or is no longer needed? do i need to add the kernel line on boot too? (related to kernel 3.13.1)
[01:36] <glitsj16> profligacy: what desktop environment are you using? perhaps the compiz 'grid' plugin is what you're looking for
[01:37] <TJ-> dupingping: No, not ftpfs, curlftpfs which uses libcurl
[01:37] <edu_nieto_medina> hello!!
[01:38] <Kingen> Celso: As an OSS guy i would not ever want you to have to, ever do this kind of thing.
[01:38] <edu_nieto_medina> does anybody know if there is a chance to install ubuntu alongside windows 8??
[01:38] <dupingping> curlftpfs?
[01:39] <dupingping> but, my program does not use libcurl.
[01:39] <Celso> Kingen why so?
[01:39] <edu_nieto_medina> its been a week since im trying to install both in my new laptop
[01:39] <Kingen> Anyone like the tune btw ?
[01:39] <dupingping> TJ-: but, my program does not use libcurl.
[01:39] <TJ-> dupingping: That's fine, but the package in the Ubuntu archives does
[01:40] <dupingping> Now it's not.
[01:40] <edu_nieto_medina> anybody?
[01:40] <dupingping> I'm alreay register in ubuntu.
[01:41] <dupingping> it package name is ubuntu-fuseftp.
[01:41] <TJ-> !info curlftpfs
[01:41] <endofcake> edu_nieto_medina, I run Ubuntu alongside Win*, but I use different drives for them to avoid the problems
[01:42] <endofcake> Are you having problems with secure boot by any chance?
[01:42] <BentFranklin> I want to run a shell that will kill itself in a fixed time interval if I don't do so beforehand.  What would you call such a utility?  I can't think of what to search for.
[01:42] <Kingen> Celso: I like automation. Code that will allow you to plug in anything and it shpuld be good. But i have seen no system as good as Linux on doing this. Its why i use it so much, but i also use most other systems but microsoft, because theres no future in thae system.
[01:43] <dupingping> TJ-: You with i close this program?
[01:43] <dupingping> sorry, TJ-: You wish i close this program?
[01:43] <Kingen> Sweden has ended support of windows... gowd bless or something like that :=)
[01:45] <TJ-> dupingping: No, I'm pointing you to the package already in Ubuntu. If you want to contribute you might have more success by helping develop that package through its upstream development team.
[01:47] <Kingen> We are much better coders then they ever hoarded and thay thought they where. ... Complete idiots at times: Example: for( x=0...) ... then for(x=x ... This is actually a grat bug in the eclipse program where it things that this expression  doesnt do _anything_ /LOL
[01:47] <dupingping> how?
[01:47] <dupingping> TJ- : How?
[01:48] <rww> Kingen: #ubuntu is a technical support channel. Non-support chat goes to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks :)
[01:50] <Kingen> rww: Please be patient in everything you do, because at times nothing is what is seems.
[01:50] <daftykins> Kingen: no, you follow the rules else you are shown the door.
[01:52] <Kingen> daftykins: Yes ofcourse Sir! ... Might i ask who you are later on ?
[01:52] <daftykins> i don't change (:
[01:52] <Kingen> Botticus.
[01:53] <daftykins> excuse me?
[01:53] <rww> ubottu: tell Kingen about ot
[01:56] <Redban> I have a [Desktop Entry] runs fine when double clicked,but can't run from terminal of through bash script
[02:00] <Kingen> Sucama balls ? Hmm, why am i developing for you ... Dudes... and Dudettes ... I want to code for something durable, not for some dist that destroys GNOME and then feels you have to be a leftie to use it. How many people use their left hand instead of their right ... >Im a professor on this subject and i think its  about 10% --- Please convince me that this is nt the venerable Mr.Micrwovesoft
[02:01] <glitsj16> Redban: if you're refering to a .desktop file, you only need to run the part from the Exec= line in a terminal .. or is this not what you mean?
[02:05] <Evclidis> Hello..
[02:05] <Evclidis> How can I bring back the sudo timeout? It is not asking password anymore.
[02:06] <Redban> yes thanks glitsj16 that's what i mean ... got it now
[02:08] <edu_nieto_medina> hello
[02:08] <edu_nieto_medina> does anybody know if there is a chance to install ubuntu alongside windows 8??
[02:08] <Xuisce> edu_nieto_medina:  like dual boot?
[02:09] <endofcake> edu_nieto_medina, yes there is, scroll up a bit
[02:09] <edu_nieto_medina> yes
[02:09] <edu_nieto_medina> ive been trying really hard
[02:10] <SecretFire> how do i view gnuchess's source?
[02:10] <Evclidis> can anybody help me?
[02:10] <Evclidis> How can I bring back the sudo timeout? It is not asking password anymore.
[02:10] <endofcake> are you having problems with secure boot?
[02:10] <endofcake> Evclidis, what is sudo timeout?
[02:11] <glitsj16> Evclidis: how did you change it?
[02:12] <endofcake> Evclidis, run visudo and see what you got there
[02:12] <edu_nieto_medina> my laptop came with a pre-installed windows 8, so i wanted to install ubuntu 13.10 but when i started the installation process it didnt show the chance that usually says (install ubuntu alongside windows) so i chose the (something else option)
[02:13] <endofcake> edu_nieto_medina, do you have secure boot enabled?
[02:13] <edu_nieto_medina> but the ubuntu installed does not recocnize my partitions..
[02:14] <Evclidis> Actually, I didn't anything. It changed by itself I don't know hoe.
[02:14] <edu_nieto_medina> i have disable secure boot..
[02:14] <edu_nieto_medina> but my ubuntu **installer...
[02:14] <Mastermaster> Maybe some day youll want coders to be your friends. To be fair i scouted and i need nothing, but it could be  nice to have a chat or so whiolst coding.
[02:14] <Evclidis> endofcake: Sudo has to ask me the password and it isn't doing..
[02:15] <endofcake> Evclidis: at all? Or after you sudoed a moment ago?
[02:16] <edu_nieto_medina> i read on askubunto.... about a solution.. to sudo gparted...
[02:16] <Evclidis> endofcake: At all. I can just run 'sudo something' and it goes..
[02:16] <edu_nieto_medina> but when i open the GParted it give me an error..
[02:16] <endofcake> what have you got if you run visudo as root?
[02:17] <Evclidis> endofcake: I've got tried open the sudoers file but isn't available..
[02:17] <segfalt_> SecretFire, First, figure out what package installs gnuchess (Maybe called gnuchess, I'm not sure.) -- then run apt-get source <packagename>.
[02:18] <endofcake> Evclidis, did you try sudo su - and then visudo
[02:18] <Mastermaster> The best musics ive ever heard at 7 minutes in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi49Xo0MzhA
[02:18] <cfhowlett_> Mastermaster, completely offtopic here ...
[02:19] <cfhowlett_> and spammy
[02:19] <Mastermaster> Sry.
[02:19] <cfhowlett_> :)
[02:20] <Mastermaster> ^Possible spammers detected
[02:20] <Evclidis> endofcake, glitsj16: I saw in the visudo file and changed: NOPASSWD:ALL - to NO - It is well now.
[02:20] <Evclidis> Thank you.
[02:22] <Mastermaster> I sincerely dont like microsoft, because thats where they get their spamming moonix from.
[02:22] <Mastermaster> Skn
[02:22] <treats> I'm trying to get an overview of my mounted devices (capacity, used, free), like I would see in "My Computer" in Windows
[02:22] <treats> any suggestions?
[02:22] <Mastermaster> Leave!
[02:22] <cfhowlett_> Mastermaster, do you have an Ubuntu support question
[02:23] <Mastermaster> Exp since 1996.
[02:23] <endofcake> treats, do you need a graphical tool?
[02:23] <treats> I'd like one.. but don't need one if there is a simple command line
[02:23] <segfalt_> df -h
[02:23] <endofcake> df -h does the trick for me
[02:24] <segfalt_> it's everything you could want, except pie graphs
[02:24] <endofcake> And if you want to drill down and find what hogs your space, use baobab
[02:24]  * segfalt_ hasn't use that... interesting.
[02:24] <treats> that's almost everything, except the names don't match what the sidebar calls the drives
[02:25] <segfalt_> the sidebar probably uses disk labels huh?
[02:25] <segfalt_> hmm
[02:25] <endofcake> segfalt
[02:25] <treats> nvm.. i haven't mounted some
[02:25] <treats> thanks!
[02:25] <endofcake> segfalt_: I gues it's called Disk Usage Analyzer now
[02:26] <segfalt_> oh neat it's like WinDirStat
[02:26] <treats> i love windirstat!
[02:26] <Mastermaster> Running a papa on thair subnets ?
[02:26] <segfalt_> when I did more sysadmin stuff, I had an alias called 'sp' deployed on the servers -- it was like du -mx --max-depth=1 .
[02:27] <Mastermaster> To never again surf the mighty webs :)
[02:27] <cfhowlett_> !behelpful|Mastermaster,
[02:27] <Mastermaster> !suck
[02:27] <treats> votekick
[02:27] <Mastermaster> "Enable-Strombergs
[02:27] <treats> I'm off, thanks for the help gents!
[02:27] <segfalt_> MasterOf1isaster, this is a support community.  You're neither supporting or being a member of the community.
[02:28] <segfalt_> erm
[02:28] <segfalt_> Mastermaster, ^^
[02:28] <treats> Mastermaster is also PM spamming me
[02:28] <Mastermaster> well, youre turning into Dqalnet
[02:28] <Mastermaster> Dalnet
[02:29] <endofcake> To find big files, try find ". -type f -exec ls -s {} \; | sort -n -r | head -5"
[02:29] <endofcake> sorry, find . -type f -exec ls -s {} \; | sort -n -r | head -5
[02:29] <segfalt_> I don't think you want quotes..
[02:29] <segfalt_> yeah
[02:29] <Mastermaster> treats,segmokey:  mm,hmm
[02:30] <segfalt_> what's a segmokey?
[02:30] <rww> Mastermaster: last chance, no more offtopic in here.
[02:30] <somsip> !ops | Mastermaster (continued inane offtopic remarks)
[02:30] <rww> somsip: yes hello
[02:31] <somsip> rww: (abort) :)
[02:31] <Mastermaster> Thats you unless you keep jumping around like that. To be fair... ssh.
[02:31] <segfalt_> "requested"
[02:31] <segfalt_> well played
[02:36] <ChainsawPolice> akenet.net
[02:36] <qin> endofcake: du seems simpler
[02:39] <opty> can someone explain to me the purpose of /lib/lsb/init-functions?
[02:40] <opty> or link me to a resource that explains the philosophy/design for this?
[02:41] <opty> nvm i found something
[02:42] <dcajacob05> I am not sure if this is the right room, but I have a pretty distressing problem - on several remote nodes (that I manage with ansible), I am getting errors like this:  "-bash: /dev/null: Permission denied""
[02:42] <dcajacob05> These nodes are running Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop
[02:43] <tabsterleir> Hey all, does anyone else have a bug in 13.10 where when you lock the machine the screen goes blank and upon bringing the screen back on, the lock screen credentials box doesn't appear? You can still type your credentials blind and unlock the screen, its almost as if the credential box is invisible.
[02:44] <qin> dcajacob05: ls -l /dev/null; ?
[02:45] <dcajacob05> Running sudo rm /dev/null && sudo mknod /dev/null c 1 3 && sudo chmod 666 /dev/null brings temporary relief, but it eventually fails again
[02:45] <dcajacob05> qin: when it's broke, it look like "-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Feb  3 21:40 /dev/null"
[02:46] <dcajacob05> Worst of all, it seems like I cannot SSH into the nodes once this happens.
[02:47] <TJ-> dcajacob05: grep the system scripts (especially user-added or udev rules) for any and all "chmod" commands that are misinterpreting a command redirection ">/dev/null"
[02:48] <qin> dcajacob05: /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:KERNEL=="null|zero|full|random|urandom", MODE="0666"
[02:48] <qin> this how it should be
[02:48] <qin> dcajacob05: check with  grep null /lib/udev/rules.d/*
[02:48] <TJ-> dcajacob05: I'll bet you've got something evaluating to "chmod go-w $SOME_VAR_NAME /dev/null"
[02:49] <TJ-> dcajacob05: Note the missing ">"
[02:50] <dcajacob05> /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:KERNEL=="null|zero|full|random|urandom", MODE="0666"
[02:51] <qin> than TJ- point you in search for rought line
[02:52] <TJ-> If they're all affected and all managed by ansible, then the problem with be in an ansible script
[02:52] <dcajacob05> I think so too, but I dunno what might have changed - used this for a long time with no probllems
[02:53] <dcajacob05> The nodes run SDRs that sometimes write to /dev/null - I think the problem is happening everytime they write
[02:53] <TJ-> dcajacob05: check your changelogs
[02:54] <dcajacob05> you mean like my git repo?
[02:55] <TJ-> dcajacob05: if you use git, it should be easy "git log master | grep '/dev/null' "
[02:56] <dcajacob05> nothing, but it think that would only check the commit messages
[02:56] <TJ-> dcajacob05: yeah, depends on detailed you get
[02:57] <TJ-> dcajacob05: try "git grep 'chmod.*/dev/null'"
[03:00] <dcajacob05> nothing and greping for just /dev/nul doesn't come up with anything that should be there
[03:02] <dcajacob05> obviously you can cat trash to /dev/null with >/dev/null, but can you just write trash to it using /dev/null as a filename?
[03:02] <dcajacob05> we do that in our DR app
[03:02] <dcajacob05> *SDR
[03:02] <dcajacob05> never been a problem before, but now makes me suspicious
[03:04] <opty> i think you've been hacked
[03:05] <dcajacob05> Nah, I hacked myself
[03:05] <opty> still hacked
[03:05] <dcajacob05> Oops.  Looks like when I write to /dev/null and later remove it, that's bad
[03:05] <dcajacob05> normally the filename is something real, but sometimes it's /dev/null and this script gets run sudo
[03:06] <dcajacob05> need to add a check for that
[03:07] <dcajacob05> TJ: I assume that make sense?
[03:08] <TJ-> dcajacob05: Set an "inotifywatch /dev/null" if you need to identify *when* it happens, and have that in a script that grabs a dump of "ps -efly" so you can see what process(es) are accessing it
[03:09] <TJ-> dcajacob05: "dd if=trash of=/dev/null" is valid
[03:11] <dcajacob05> TJ: I know exactly where it is happening
[03:11] <dcajacob05> I found it
[03:12] <dupingping> robert4709: why?
[03:13] <dcajacob05> I wonder if there is a way to protect /dev/null and other such special files from rm even as sudo
[03:14] <TJ-> dcajacob05: Yes
[03:14] <AnimalTest> Hi
[03:15] <therufus> Hey all, i'm trying to run rtorrent installed via the synaptic package manager and all I get is "rtorrent: symbol lookup error: rtorrent: undefined symbol: _ZN7torrent10ThreadBase8m_globalE"
[03:15] <AnimalTest> Anywone here good with GUIs?
[03:15] <therufus> i've googled it, but nothing seems to work
[03:15] <dcajacob05> TJ: how do you do that?  For now, I am just adding some logic to my python program to check if the file is /dev/null before deleting
[03:16] <Coincourse> would anyone here be willing to help me with a frustrating samba mounting problem?
[03:17] <SecretFire> Can I create a VM that has a virtual specific piece of hardware, like an nvida or ATI graphics card? I want to run an application in a VM that looks for specific hardware and I want to fool it in to running. Is this possible with virtual box?
[03:18] <TJ-> dcajacob05: Ahh, no. I was thinking of the immutable attribute but that prevents writing as well as deletion... not much use in this case! And the 't' sticking-bit is no good because it's a special file, not a directory
[03:18] <TJ-> SecretFire: You can, with some hypervisors, use PCI pass-through to dedicate a piece of hardware to a VM
[03:19] <dcajacob05> gotcha, well logic is probably called for anyhow
[03:19] <dcajacob05> thanks for your help, this was driving me nuts
[03:20] <Asitha> Hey guys - I'm about to install ZPanel on my ubuntu server. Does anyone have a recommendation for a good installation script to use for it?
[03:20] <therufus> Coincourse: what's the drama?
[03:22] <Coincourse> I've been going through all of the tutorials/steps I can find but I keep getting either error 5 or error 22
[03:22] <Coincourse> I've edited fstab to try to mount it automatically
[03:22] <Coincourse> as well as mounting it directly from the command line
[03:23] <therufus> what are you mounting? An external drive?
[03:24] <Coincourse> no, it's a server for work
[03:24] <Coincourse> I made a directory in /media/ to mount it to
[03:25] <therufus> is this on a windows machine or linux machine?
[03:26] <Coincourse> I am on ubuntu 12.04, but the rest of the office is on macs.  I read that using sec=ntlm can help but it's still not connecting
[03:27] <therufus> seems to be a mac isue to me. have you edited your smb.conf?
[03:27] <Coincourse> I pinged the server and then tried using the IP address also, but no dice
[03:27] <Coincourse> no I haven't edited that
[03:27] <irated> Anyone know anything about linuxmint 16 here
[03:27] <Romance> so my home electricity went blackout but i forgot to save the opened file on gedit editor, do you know where i can get that file back?
[03:27] <Romance> help
[03:27] <therufus> so lets get this clear. What is it you are mounting?
[03:28] <Coincourse> it is a samba share on a work server,  I'm trying to mount it to /media/server/
[03:28] <im> 하이
[03:28] <therufus> so are you on the work server?
[03:29] <im> rpm설치법좀 알려주세요
[03:29] <somsip> !ko | im
[03:30] <Coincourse> therufus: I can see all of the files on the share just by going through the file browsers go to: //server/share system, but if I try to open anything or copy to desktop it's 0 bytes and looks like an empty text file
[03:30] <Diplomatico> Hello, there's a pop up that says that I should upgrade to 13.10, but I have and old notebook, is it necessary?
[03:30] <Coincourse> I'm able to ping the work server, and browse the directories but not actually access any files.
[03:30] <somsip> Diplomatico: what version are you running now?
[03:30] <Diplomatico> Raring
[03:30] <therufus> that's probably a permission issue on the server
[03:31] <somsip> Diplomatico: This became unsupported a fewe days ago. So it is probably best advice to upgrade, especially if you want any future security and bugfix updates
[03:32] <somsip> !13.04 | Diplomatico
[03:32] <Diplomatico> But, what I really want to know if the new release won't make my notebook slower.
[03:33] <Coincourse> therufus: can you help guide me through what I can ask of the tech guy?  They're good folks but I don't want to be too much of a pain, I'm the only linux user in the office.
[03:34] <therufus> Coincourse: beyond my scope. I wouldn't want to lead you astray. Anyone here able to help Coincourse?
[03:34] <somsip> Diplomatico: it's very difficult to guarantee anything. If you post more details about your laptop, *maybe* someone else here might have the same setup. Otherwise, you may need to search. As 13.10 is an upgrade it should be better, but I have no direct experience of it myself
[03:34] <carrot> test
[03:34] <Diplomatico> Ok, but, what could be the worst case scenario? Somsip?
[03:35] <somsip> Diplomatico: something in your laptop has lesser support in 13.10 than in 13.04, ie: it breaks. I'm really not sure how likely that is but it may be something you need to research first.
[03:35] <somsip> !test | carrot
[03:35] <NastyNaz> how do vampires not have reflections in mirrors?
[03:36] <somsip> !ot | NastyNaz
[03:36] <Diplomatico> Ok, thank you, another silly question is, this upgrade means I have to reinstall all my software?
[03:36] <therufus> same reason Jesus could walk on water. Fairytales NastyNaz.
[03:37] <somsip> Diplomatico: not unless you have installed from non-official sources, eg: PPAs, using dpkg -i, compiling from source. If you'
[03:37] <somsip> Diplomatico: ...you've kept it clean, it should be straightforward. Same caveat about no guarantees though
[03:37] <therufus> can anyone help me with my drama?
[03:37] <NastyNaz> therufus: sure
[03:37] <Diplomatico> Oh...Again another thing that it should taken account is that I have it dualboot...
[03:37] <therufus> rtorrent: symbol lookup error: rtorrent: undefined symbol: _ZN7torrent10ThreadBase8m_globalE when trying to run rtorrent
[03:38] <somsip> Diplomatico: you will need advice for someone else. I have no experience of dualbooting
[03:38] <Diplomatico> Ok, thank you so much!
[03:39] <Coincourse> therufus: thanks for your help, I'll go over it with the tech guy tomorrow
[03:41] <therufus> yum downgrade libtorrent
[03:41] <therufus> wrong window
[03:41] <cfhowlett_> !yum
[03:41] <therufus> I'm trying to get this $h!7 working
[03:41] <therufus> i'm trying anything
[03:43] <SchrodingersScat> !details | therufus
[03:43] <ExceptionlCatch1> hello hello, i'm running ubntu 13.10 with apache 2.4 with the default configuration. i noticed that cgi-bin does not work with the default configuration. why is that?
[03:44] <ExceptionlCatch1> debian 7 localhost/cgi-bin was working right out of the box
[03:44] <ExceptionlCatch1> is there a particular config that i am missing?
[03:44] <therufus> I have a problem with rtorrent, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04LTS Server, When I try to run rtorrent, I get the following output: rtorrent: symbol lookup error: rtorrent: undefined symbol: _ZN7torrent10ThreadBase8m_globalE, but I expected it to actually run rtorrent
[03:50] <therufus> nobody?
[03:50] <SchrodingersScat> therufus: works on my machine
[03:50] <therufus> Sweet. Thanks for your help.
[03:51] <SchrodingersScat> therufus: compiling libtorrent isn't hard though.
[03:52] <therufus> ...aaaanyway. Can anyone help?
[03:52] <therufus> I've just exhausted google
[03:53] <qin> https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4386 therufus
[03:53] <dupingping> therufus: what? nobody?
[03:53] <therufus> nobody? as in can nobody help?
[03:54] <cfhowlett_> !patience|therufus,
[03:55] <therufus> qin: Ubuntu, not CentOS
[03:56] <qin> therufus: and bug from debian: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=679021
[03:56] <therufus> I've tried it all anyway. I'll only ask for help if I've exhausted google
[03:56] <dupingping> who need a super python developer?
[03:57] <qin> therufus: to your attention head of bug report: Package: rtorrent
[03:57] <qin> Version: 0.9.2-1
[03:57] <qin> Severity: grave
[03:57] <qin> Justification: renders package unusable
[03:57] <dupingping> I can help you!
[03:57] <SchrodingersScat> therufus: yeah, weird, i've got a machine running precise and its up, I don't even think I had to compile.
[03:58] <dupingping> who need a super C, C++, bash developer?
[03:58] <dupingping> I can help you!
[03:58] <qin> dupingping: really?
[03:58] <dupingping> ok, wonderful
[03:59] <dupingping> I have a lot of experience about to develop Qt, GTK3, too.
[04:00] <dupingping> I can help you!
[04:00] <dupingping> I can help you freely.
[04:01] <dupingping> I can create a python module written C.
[04:02] <dupingping> I wish contribute to you.
[04:03] <dupingping> I can write pthread code without a bug successfully.
[04:04] <therufus> fixed it. just removed libtorr* from /usr/local/lib
[04:04] <dupingping> Can I join your some project.
[04:04] <Nono> Hello? I need some advice here (any spaniard around here?)
[04:04] <cfhowlett_> !es|Nono,
[04:04] <Pici> dupingping: This is the Ubuntu support channel. Please stay on-topic.  Listing your resume is not on-topic.
[04:04] <cfhowlett_> !contribute|dupingping,
[04:04] <ExceptionlCatch1> am i really the only person who is having trouble running ubuntu 13 with apache 2.4 with cgi-bin programs right out of the box?
[04:04] <Pici> !guidelines > dupingping
[04:05] <cfhowlett_> !details|ExceptionlCatch1,
[04:05] <qin> therufus: did you just managed to remove rtorrent or make it work?
[04:06] <ExceptionlCatch1> cfhowlett_: i have a perl and ruby script in /usr/lib/cgi-bin with +x set and i receive a 404 in my browser when accessing the link
[04:07] <ExceptionlCatch1> this is a fresh install of apache2, i haven't modified the config files at all
[04:07] <ExceptionlCatch1> both scripts run fine from the command line
[04:07] <somsip> ExceptionlCatch1: does the www-data user have access to /usr/lib/cgi-bin and is this the correct path for cgi-bin in /etc/apache2/sites/available/default ?
[04:08] <TJ-> ExceptionlCatch1: Have you checked apache's log-files; they usually provide good clues to what is wrong
[04:11] <ExceptionlCatch1> somsip: there is a line in the 000-default that includes a serve-cgi-bin.conf because globally cgi-bin has been disabled. i've tried both settings enabling/disabling the line (i imagine its supposed to be enabled to work correctly)
[04:12] <dupingping> im: hello!
[04:12] <ExceptionlCatch1> TJ-: i've read the log files, only access shows 404 on the script name
[04:12] <funky> heya
[04:12] <funky> cp -avr /home/vivek/letters /usb/backupcp -avr /home/vivek/letters /usb/backup how would I tell copy to just copy content of /letters?
[04:13] <somsip> ExceptionlCatch1: imagination is no good here. You have to check it properly. I have no experience of cgi-bin myself, but suggest you look into how this should be setup correctly on apache2
[04:13] <funky> as now it creates dir/letters
[04:13] <funky> which is not needed
[04:13] <somsip> funky: cp -avr /home/vivek/letters/* /usb/backup
[04:14] <funky> ty
[04:14] <dupingping> funky: ?
[04:14] <dupingping> why don't use tar
[04:15] <dupingping> best backup: I suggest tar, cpio.
[04:15] <prepangolin> ????ubuntu?????
[04:16] <dupingping> !patience: prepangolin
[04:16] <somsip> prepangolin: Yes. Do you have a support question?
[04:16] <funky> its not backup hehe just I used this dir as example
[04:16] <funky> ty
[04:16] <dupingping> funky: oh
[04:17] <prepangolin> somsip: I have a problem on install ubuntu on Macbook1,1.
[04:17] <dupingping> funky: then cp -avr
[04:17] <cfhowlett_> !mac|prepangolin,
[04:17] <somsip> !mac | prepangolin (itherwise, I have no idea)
[04:17] <dupingping> !patience|prepangolin
[04:18] <dupingping> !patience|prepangolin
[04:18] <prepangolin> Following that instruction, I couldn't install.
[04:18] <somsip> dupingping: stop it
[04:18] <dupingping> hihihihihi!
[04:18] <cfhowlett_> !behepful|dupingping,
[04:18] <prepangolin> It isn't suitable for macbook1,1.
[04:18] <cfhowlett_> somsip, hihi is local lingo for haha - prepare the kick
[04:18] <somsip> prepangolin: so what is your real question?
[04:19] <prepangolin> Who can say to me, It is possible or impossible.
[04:19] <dupingping> cfhowlett_: why?
[04:19] <somsip> prepangolin: you've just said it is not suitable. Where did you get that information from?
[04:19] <dupingping> prepangolin: you are crazy!
[04:19] <prepangolin> I did it by myself.
[04:19] <somsip> cfhowlett_: ah. I should have guessed from the OPs name. Over here it's 'ieieie'...
[04:19] <cfhowlett_> !ops|dupingping,
[04:20] <rww> yes hello
[04:20] <cfhowlett_> rww, dupingping ...
[04:20] <somsip> rww: *excellent* service today I must say :)
[04:20] <cfhowlett_> ^^^ this!
[04:20] <rww> dupingping: calm down a tad, please. this is a support channel and all :)
[04:20] <dupingping> what? rww
[04:20] <James0r> anyone play openarena and know how to solve video tearing issues?
[04:21] <prepangolin> dupingping: Why don't you go home.
[04:21] <somsip> prepangolin: please leave this to the ops
[04:22] <somsip> rww: dupingping is now spamming PMs
[04:22] <rww> somsip: quote them to me in PM, please :)
[04:23] <dupingping> rww: who are you!
[04:23] <rww> dupingping: the guy in the corner with a broom keeping things tidy :)
[04:24] <qin> good lad, dupingping was also trying to sell himself here, for free
[04:24] <prepangolin> somsip, you forgot my question.
[04:25] <Guest40304> how to install openoffice.org in ubuntu 13.10?
[04:25] <rww> dupingping: mind a PM?
[04:25] <cfhowlett_> Guest40304, it's in the software center, right?  click / install ...
[04:25] <dupingping> yes! and what? PM
[04:26] <somsip> prepangolin: I did. Lost in the spam. SO, I have no experience of Macs and have no idea if ubuntu is compatible with them. You said it was not suitable for your 1.1. If you want absolute confirmation of that, you will need to research yourself or see if someone else can help you here
[04:26] <Guest40304> Package 'openoffice.org' has no installation candidate
[04:26] <rww> Guest40304: Ubuntu doesn't carry openoffice.org. Try libreoffice
[04:26] <somsip> !info libreoffice | Guest40304
[04:27] <Guest40304> but other package depends on openoffice.org
[04:27] <rww> Guest40304: which package?
[04:28] <prepangolin> okay
[04:29] <cfhowlett_> Guest40304, openoffice.org is NOT  a package.  libreoffice is the recommended alternative but if you just MUST have open office, go to the openoffice.org site, download the .deb and dpkg -i foo.deb to install
[04:29] <Guest40304> bbb-openoffice-headless depends openoffice.org
[04:30] <ubuntuaddicted> evening guys. i'm running xubuntu and wondering if i want to install the QT version of avidemux OR the gtk+ version?
[04:30] <rww> !info bbb-openoffice-headless
[04:30] <cfhowlett_> ubuntuaddicted, *gtk is on my ubuntustudio ...
[04:30] <rww> ubuntuaddicted: either would work. xfce has more GTK than Qt, though
[04:31] <Ben64> Guest40304: what are you trying to do
[04:31] <ubuntuaddicted> rww, ok, that's what I was wondering. thanks
[04:31] <Guest40304> it is from lucid
[04:31] <rww> !lucid
[04:32] <Guest40304> install bigbluebutton on ubuntu 13.10
[04:32] <cfhowlett_> Guest40304, if you're running lucid, you might want to install a supported version ...
[04:32] <Ben64> Guest40304:  then why are you talking about lucid??? explain exactly what your goal is.
[04:33] <rww> Guest40304: If you're trying to install packages from outside of Ubuntu and they're not working, please talk to the person who made those packages. We can't support them here, really.
[04:34] <Guest40304> well, thank you so much
[04:34] <rww> I know, it's an obnoxious answer. Not much we can do though :(
[04:36] <qin> Guest40304: it apparently works with ligre office: https://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/wiki/InstallationUbuntu
[04:40] <dupingping> hi
[04:40] <dupingping> who can develop ftp programming with C.
[04:41] <cfhowlett_> dupingping, this is not the C programming channel
[04:47] <varunendra> Any recommendations for a light & fast (but not crippled) browser within repos, other than FF & chromium? My old FF has gotten way too slow and chromium is now crashing the system several times a day, and I don't want to do the upgrade until a couple more weeks (when I'd get a faster connection)
[04:47] <cfhowlett_> !browser
[04:47] <varunendra> Doh ! :P
[04:49] <Xuisce> Hello  varunendra
[04:49] <varunendra> Of these I think Midori is the only other name I've heard before.. :P
[04:49] <varunendra> hello Xuisce :)
[04:50] <Xuisce> varunendra: are you a Ubuntu dev. ?
[04:50] <somsip> Xuisce: just ask your question and if someone can help you they will respond
[04:50] <Xuisce> Ok
[04:50] <varunendra> Xuisce, no way.... just a user
[04:50] <Xuisce> Oh
[05:12] <ubuntuaddicted> trying to mount some cifs shares on my new Xubuntu 13.10 box and it's not working. i used to be able to use a smbusers file that mapped usernames but the shares aren't mounting
[05:29] <dupingping> hi
[05:29] <dupingping> i registerd me to canonical.
[05:30] <dupingping> how can i login to canonical as developer?
[05:30] <cfhowlett_> dupingping, go back to the registration page and read the details
[05:30] <dupingping> cfhowlett_: i am already close this page.
[05:30] <dupingping> show me the url?
[05:31] <cfhowlett_> dupingping, you're a smart guy, surely you can find it again ...
[05:31] <dupingping> oh~
[05:31] <dupingping> community.com?
[05:31] <dupingping> community.ubuntu.com?
[05:32] <dupingping> ah, my head is broken.
[05:33] <dupingping> how to contact the canonical? what url?
[05:33] <dupingping> how to contact the canonical? what url?
[05:33] <cfhowlett_> !canonical
[05:34] <dupingping> ok, thanks
[05:41] <qin> monaco is so sexy, wonder if there is console version out there...
[05:52] <Guest38911> exit
[05:53] <buhman> 1) no 2) no need 3) kmscon
[05:58] <MarGul> will apt-get install php5 install the latest phpversion? >5.5 ?
[05:58] <cfhowlett_> !php
[06:01] <cfhowlett_> MarGul, run apt-cache policy php5-cli to see what version is in your repo stream
[06:04] <MarGul> cfhowlett_: its the 5.3 thats in my repo stream so I guess not. I am running nginx would it be safe to use ondrej PPA for the new versions even though I have nginx? (because ondrej install some apache stuff) What I want to do is install a php version > 5.5 with a new MySQL version as well
[06:05] <cfhowlett_> MarGul, way over my ability to advise.  If no answer here, ask the #ubuntu-server channel?  sorry I can't offer more help
[06:07] <MarGul> cfhowlett_: Okey thanks for trying :)
[06:07] <Xuisce> MarGul: hi
[06:08] <MarGul> Xuisce: hi :)
[06:14] <somsip> MarGul: there is a version of ondrej PPA that does not upgrade other dependencies - something like php5-oldstable. But PPAs are not supported here so you'll be on your own if you go for this
[06:15] <MarGul> somsip: I would rather like to install php5.5 and MySQL seperatly myself. But I just cant find the way to do this. All commands and files I find is php5.3 ;/
[06:18] <MarGul> except if you use a PPA
[06:18] <somsip> MarGul: my advice would be to setup a VM on trusty, but that is offtopic for this channel so it's all I'll say here
[06:20] <jacob_> hello?
[06:21] <worm`> Hi, not a one-sided ubuntu question but do you have any idea how to solve this? https://answers.launchpad.net/sikuli/+question/243084
[06:21] <Guest2744> does anybody know how to get xhydra?
[06:22] <somsip> Guest2744: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/hydra-gtk/
[06:22] <irated> finally
[06:23] <Guest2744> thank you :)
[06:24] <funky> hello
[06:24] <funky> whats the easiest way to show all partitions whether mounted or not?
[06:24] <funky> fdisk -l does not work
[06:24] <somsip> funky: sudo fdisk -l
[06:25] <funky> cool that did work
[06:25] <funky> mighty sudo lol
[06:25] <irated> sudo make_samitch.py
[06:26] <somsip> irated: Do you have a support question?
[06:33] <linuxworld> how do i know i am using a secure connection or not?
[06:34] <linuxworld> how do i know i am using a secure connection or not?
[06:34] <buhman> 00:34:29 freenode -- [linuxworld] is using a secure connection
[06:34] <buhman> !next
[06:34] <rww> linuxworld: /whois linuxworld
[06:34] <qoley> hello
[06:35] <linuxworld> but i guess there my ip, so it means i am not using any secured connection?
[06:35] <qoley> anyone know the problem when when is say "iptables: No chain/target/match by that name. "
[06:35] <linuxworld> rww: can u please check it for me and let me show the output using pastebin?
[06:35] <rww> linuxworld: "secured connection" means you're using SSL to connect, it has nothing to do with obfuscating your IP address
[06:36] <rww> linuxworld: however, you have a cloak, so your IP address is slightly hidden from casual observers
[06:36] <rww> (it will still show your hostname to you)
[06:36] <linuxworld> rww: can u please check it for me and let me show the output using pastebin?
[06:36] <qoley> ?
[06:36] <linuxworld> it a just 5 to 10 secs
[06:38] <qoley> can anyone help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6871433/
[06:39] <qoley> can anyone help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6871433/
[06:39] <somsip> !patience | qoley
[06:41] <funky> iptables: No chain/target/match by that name.
[06:41] <funky> thats the answer :D
[06:42] <mikubuntu> theres a program i'd like to install on my 64 bit system (studio) on this page :: http://sgratzl.github.io/paper-2013-lineup/ but i don't know how to install a tar.gz, could someone possibly help me out?
[06:42] <somsip> !compile | mikubuntu
[06:43] <somsip> !tarball | mikubuntu (this one applies too)
[06:43] <rww> !tar
[06:43] <fyksen> ls
[06:48] <morenoh149> after I install ati drivers on a fresh install. I can't get to the gui. What can I do?
[06:49] <TvL2386> hi guys, I'm using 14.04 x64 alpha2 with Gnome Classic. How can I add new items to the menu???
[06:50] <bapestore> Where are mounted devices located in the filesystem?
[06:50] <TvL2386> bapestore, wherever you want? Check the output of "df"
[06:50] <Ben64> TvL2386: 14.04 support in #ubuntu+1 until release
[06:51] <TvL2386> thx Ben64 I think I'll try Alacarte first :)
[06:51] <jamesd> TvL2386: 14.04 is the ultimate, latest, greatest, perfect, there is no need to add a thing that functionality has been disabled ;-p
[06:52] <mikubuntu> somsip, archive manager doesn't seem to want to extract the file lineup-demos-linux.gtk.x86_64.tar.gz
[06:52] <Neytiri> i i have a ubuntu box setup as a router, and traffic is passing fine, but when i do a traceroute all the hops after it dont show up
[06:52] <Neytiri> i dont hav enat enables any idea hwat hte isue is
[06:52] <Ben64> mikubuntu: "tar zxfv blah.tar.gz"
[06:53] <bapestore> TvL2386: I can't seem to find the actual iso i put in cdrom drive. I'm in virtualbox btw... in console.
[06:53] <mikubuntu> Ben64: thx, i try now
[06:53] <Ben64> Neytiri: somewhere along the line its being blocked
[06:53] <Neytiri> its being blocked at the ubuntu router
[06:56] <varunendra> bapestore, check the output of "mount | grep -i iso". Usually the CD/DVD is mounted in /cdrom or /media/cdrom
[06:58] <bapestore> varunendra, nothing whatsoever
[06:58] <mikubuntu> Ben64: ok, i got the archive manager to extract the file -- but i don't know what its done with it -- wasn't it supposed to install and show in menu?
[06:59] <varunendra> bapestore, is there any indication that the CD/DVD was recognized by the Guest OS? (dmesg, for example) If not, maybe it wasn't properly mounted by VBox
[06:59] <Ben64> mikubuntu: tar.gz is likely the program's source. you'll need to compile it yourself. it is recommended that you find a suitable package in the ubuntu repositories, or a PPA to use instead
[07:00] <mikubuntu> Ben64: could you help me with the process, i don't remember ever compiling anything before :P
[07:00] <bapestore> varunendra: that's what I was thinking. vbox says it's connected but I don't think the virtual is noticing it at all.
[07:01] <bapestore> it's not important nvm.
[07:01] <Ben64> mikubuntu: what is it
[07:02] <varunendra> :)
[07:02] <mikubuntu> Ben64: http://sgratzl.github.io/paper-2013-lineup/
[07:02] <ompal1> using ssh how to know that remote machine is virtual machine not the physical one
[07:03] <Ben64> mikubuntu: looks like you'll need to read some readme's
[07:04] <mikubuntu> Ben64: the things ubutto suggested look over my head for the moment
[07:05] <somsip> mikubuntu: then it's maybe best if you avoid compiling from source. It can lead to problems if you don't know what you are doing
[07:05] <hateball> ompal1: what hypervisor are you using?
[07:07] <mikubuntu> somsip, thats what i think too, normally i select programs from the software center or synaptic -- but this program hasn't made it there yet. looks like a very useful community research tool
[07:07] <ompal1> hateball: for linux  i am talking about it may be virtual box
[07:07] <ompal1> or redhat one
[07:08] <hitsujiTMO> ompal1: using virt-what
[07:08] <hateball> ompal1: dmidecode should give it away as well
[07:09] <mikubuntu> somsip, Ben64 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140131230821.htm
[07:10] <Guest9276> .
[07:11] <somsip> mikubuntu: this looks like a java executable. What do you get if you 'tar zxf LineUp.tgz' or whatever it's called
[07:12] <Auctus> suppose im on some random installation of ubuntu and i create a user and then i log in as that user and then it says could not chdir /home/username ... why's that? Is there no disk or something? This is a VPS that i'm using.
[07:12] <mikubuntu> somsip, i'll try
[07:12] <ompal1> hateball:thanks man
[07:14] <mikubuntu> somsip, tar (child): lineup-demos-linux.gtk.x86_64.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[07:15] <somsip> mikubuntu: I've downloaded it don't have a clue. You need to get support from the LineUp guys
[07:15] <mikubuntu> somsip, lol
[07:18] <somsip> mikubuntu: the github page explains what you need to do, but you'd be installing Eclipse and various plugins. It might make for a challenge: https://github.com/Caleydo/caleydo
[07:19] <returningshadow> Hi. I haven't join this room before. Is this for discussion of Ubuntu itself, or is it more of a support room?
[07:19] <mikubuntu> somsip, its nothing i could try on my own -- i would need guidance through the whole process
[07:19] <somsip> mikubuntu: then you need someone friendly on the LineUp team...
[07:19] <mikubuntu> somsip, just sent an email to developers
[07:19] <somsip> mikubuntu: k
[07:20] <mjhszig> does anybody know why its so hard to install google chrome?
[07:20] <mjhszig> i still cannot get a successful install  :(
[07:21] <somsip> mjhszig: how are you installing it?
[07:21] <mjhszig> i tried from googles webpage, then apt-get, then direct wget
[07:22] <mjhszig> always errors: depndency is not satisfied: gconf-service
[07:22] <mjhszig> ive updated, and upgraded apt-get and rebuild dependency trees
[07:23] <somsip> mjhszig: we don't support PPAs here, but the google-chrome PPA has always worked fine for me.
[07:23] <mjhszig> sorry... PPA?
[07:24] <somsip> !PPA | mjhszig
[07:24] <somsip> mjhszig: and here is how you would use one: http://www.howopensource.com/2011/10/install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-11-10-11-04-10-10-10-04/
[07:24] <ompal1> mjhszig:http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-linux-12-xx-13-xx/
[07:25] <mjhszig> (so third-party download site?)
[07:25] <somsip> mjhszig: yes, which is why they are not supported here.
[07:25] <comander> can i get help here regarding to QT ?
[07:25] <mjhszig> ah, ok ill check that out real quick, thanks
[07:25] <comander> actually  i want get the output  of a process that i evoked from my QT Application
[07:27] <comander> via QProcess and want to get output  either in QtextEdit widget or something else that could do same
[07:29] <honeybuntu> is there any one here that can advise me re: the side-by-side install  of Ubuntu 12.04  (dual install of Ubuntu 12.04)--> & can they share the same /home folder if said folder is in its own partition?
[07:29] <Tazmain> hi all, I have ubuntu server 12.04.1 install with xfce ( boss wanted a gui) I am having trouble getting to start to just the cli. I tried editing grub to change splash to text and removing lxdm and gdm from the init.d. How can I disable the GUI at startup ?
[07:29] <somsip> honeybuntu: they can, but it's likely to cause problems unless you are very careful
[07:30] <somsip> !text | Tazmain
[07:30] <Tazmain> somsip, did not work
[07:30] <somsip> Tazmain: in what way?
[07:30] <honeybuntu> -->somsip: ok. thank you for the warning.
[07:31] <Tazmain> Still booted to the GUI, or Desktop I want to go to cli, like before a DE was installed. How ubuntu server normally boots
[07:32] <comander> Tazmain,  press Ctrl+Alt+ F1
[07:33] <Tazmain> comander, thats not the point, the DE takes up ram, SO i don't want it starting with boot. That you go manually startx.
[07:33] <Tazmain> SO disable the display manager
[07:33] <spy6> can anybody guide me, how to create a new entry on https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging#File_a_merge_bug says "Click in the Comment column on the invisible text entry field" ... actually i just filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nagios-plugins/+bug/1276032
[07:34] <spy6> oh ... ubottu has catched my bug report ;)
[07:35] <hitsujiTMO> Tazmain: if "text" didn't work thrn you did not do it correctly. What exactly did you do?
[07:36] <morenoh149> after I install the propreitary drivers, and say I add another gfx card. Do I have to run anything to update the system?
[07:37] <Tazmain> hitsujiTMO, I opened the grub file in /etc/default/grub change where it said quiet to text. saved it ran update-grub all as sudo
[07:37] <somsip> Tazmain: have another read of what the bot told you to do
[07:37] <hitsujiTMO> Tazmain: can you pastebin the contents /etc/default/grub
[07:38] <honeybuntu> i just finished a successful install on a laptop that "resists"  Ubuntu x64 AMD  (after 87 re-installs in 2 wks) ASUS S500CA (EFI BIOS) & a nasty msftres - Win 8 is not to my liking.
[07:38] <Tazmain> somsip, I dont have the GUI installed, this is a server install, that ubuntu grub gui is not present here
[07:38] <varunendra> honeybuntu, 87 reinstalls !! :O
[07:39] <hitsujiTMO> Tazmain: how did you install xfce?
[07:39] <Tazmain> hitsujiTMO, command line
[07:39] <Tazmain> sudo apt-get install xfce
[07:39] <imghost> 87 reinstalls wow thats great:)
[07:39] <honeybuntu> Is it worth installing engaging the legacy BIOS  instead of grappling with Secure Boot and Intel Anti-Theft Technology.
[07:40] <varunendra> only 13 more to go.. for a diamond jubilee :D
[07:40] <Tazmain> www.pastebin.com/wkrsjXC3 hitsujiTMO
[07:41] <honeybuntu> Those are the default features which are enabled & incorporated w/the use of EFI bios
[07:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Tazmain: Did you want to see the dmesg output when you boot?
[07:42] <imghost> honeybuntu, dual boot?
[07:42] <honeybuntu> No - booting Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS solo.
[07:42] <imghost> ok
[07:43] <Tazmain> SonikkuAmerica, yes I did, then it went straight to GUI login
[07:43] <honeybuntu> I had to run boot-repair, grapple with an assortment of buggy kernels.
[07:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Tazmain: You could just leave GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= blank
[07:44] <Ben64> honeybuntu: yes, i'd say secureboot and stuff is not worth it
[07:45] <honeybuntu> Spent a good deal of time submitting "app crash" feedback to the trusty crew at Launchpad.
[07:46] <Tazmain> SonikkuAmerica, that didn't work either, still going the GUI login screen.
[07:47] <morenoh149> my system freezes after installing ati proprietary drivers. (can't get to a terminal with ctrl-alt-f1, and stuck on a blue screen (xubuntu)) what can I do?
[07:47] <hitsujiTMO> Tazmain: what dm is being used?
[07:47] <Tazmain> hitsujiTMO, I thought it was lxdm. IS there a way to double check ?
[07:47] <honeybuntu> More time at Xorg with the Intel Integrated Graphics (on-board chip) that has an OEM version of the Intel driver for the graphics (DVMT allotment for Graphics config is64 MG)!
[07:48] <SonikkuAmerica> Tazmain: Is this 12.04 LTS we're talking?
[07:49] <Tazmain> SonikkuAmerica, ubuntu server 12.04.1 LTS yes
[07:49] <freeESCDraw> hi all!
[07:49] <hitsujiTMO> Tazmain: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[07:50] <Tazmain> hitsujiTMO, gdm
[07:51] <honeybuntu> And ASUS has tailored the Intel graphics driver specifically to work in conjuction w/other assorted internal HW - to dance to the tune of Microsoft Win 8 & 8.1, of course.
[07:51] <hitsujiTMO> Tazmain: also: pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep 'xfce\|xubuntu'
[07:52] <honeybuntu> For the ASUS S500CA-HPD
[07:56] <honeybuntu> I have installed Ubu 12.04.3 LTS on a more advanced ASUS S500CA w/less headaches. That one was an i5 core. This one (that gave me quite a time)  is a dual core x64 Intel 2117U  (1.8 GHz)
[07:57] <mjhszig> So I went through with the same error, and followed up with "-f install" only i get text that says "following with be REMOVED- google-chrome-current...0 installed, 0 updated"  but all the screenshot of tutorials show it just workign find and installign the needed dependency
[07:57] <honeybuntu> I think Win 7x64 is the last of my sane days with MS Windows.
[07:57] <mjhszig> *"the following WILL be removed"
[07:58] <hitsujiTMO> Tazmain: pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep 'xfce\|xubuntu'
[07:58] <honeybuntu> I'm returning to Linux - and Ubuntu is a marvel, IMO.
[07:59] <mjhszig> im done for tonight   thanks somsip & ubottu
[07:59] <dino2k> hello guys, i connected a td8811 via usb to a pentium4 box 32bit
[08:00] <honeybuntu> It has been over 10 yrs since i sat down to Linux (Walnut Creek & Red Hat).
[08:00] <dino2k> how could i m install driver
[08:02] <honeybuntu> Now I would just prefer to settle into a pure Linux computing environment but I haven't the experience with the newer distributions.
[08:02] <Guest29739> hello
[08:02] <varunendra> dino2k, please tell us what is this "td8811"
[08:02] <Cuppa_coffee> honeybuntu, dual booting isnt that hard to set up. Have the best of both worlds
[08:02] <Guest29739> finall got sound on ubuntu stduio
[08:04] <dino2k> usb driver for TD 8811 TPLINK adsl modem on ubuntu 32bit
[08:04] <dino2k> varunendra: ^^
[08:04] <honeybuntu> And installing utilizing EFI boot can be somewhat challenging.
[08:05] <Guest29739> but anyone know why the plug in needed for vimeo to play wont install ??
[08:06] <mrrogens> um servidor no brasil caiu
[08:06] <mrrogens> pode ter a ver
[08:06] <mrrogens> servidor com repositorios
[08:06] <hitsujiTMO> !br | mrrogens
[08:07] <honeybuntu> After 87 re-installs - i'd say i didn't chuck it til I achieved a somewhat stable installation.
[08:09] <honeybuntu> I just don't savor the overload of (i believe its called "eye candy" in Windows vers. 8 - 8.1.
[08:09] <Guest29739> what would the plug in be called
[08:10] <varunendra> dino2k, is this your modem? : http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TD-8811#spec
[08:10] <honeybuntu> ..i think it is more annoying. Ubuntu is by far more functional and less obtrusive.
[08:11] <varunendra> dino2k, it seems it is meant for single user only. If so, you can use either the USB or the ethernet interface to connect to it. There is no need to install any driver for it, and the bundled software (probably only for Windows) is only an interface to connect to it.
[08:11] <dino2k> varunendra: yup
[08:12] <honeybuntu> What is the Ubu distro of choice for the beginner/intermediate user?  Tried 13.10 and Linux Mint 13 (Maya).
[08:12] <varunendra> dino2k, please read what I posted above ^^ :)
[08:12] <Cuppa_coffee> i'd go for 13.10 honeybuntu
[08:12] <mjhszig> soooo if im running 10.10  does this mean the repository is closed and i can no longer download dependencies???
[08:12] <somsip> !10.10 | mjhszig
[08:13] <Packjam> mogge
[08:13] <honeybuntu> -->Thank you, Cuppa_coffee.
[08:13] <Cuppa_coffee> mogge
[08:13] <somsip> mjhszig: since April last year
[08:13] <Packjam> Zorins OS 8 is a pain in the butt
[08:14] <mjhszig> damnit, well great, i guess thats a simple explanation to my problem, with no solution.. :(
[08:14] <somsip> Packjam: and this relates to ubuntu in what way?
[08:14] <Packjam> won't install, does not remember settings, cairo does not run
[08:14] <Packjam> welll it's just some information about an ubuntu based distro
[08:14] <honeybuntu> I'm handing over my Mac Book Pro to my niece as pre-Valentine. No more of that
[08:15] <somsip> Packjam: Nothing something for here. If you want to give feedback, give it to the Zorin team. It's not a supported derivative
[08:15] <dino2k> varunendra: in ubuntu and by the use of usb cable . no lan cable aval. right now; in this case does ubuntu finds and connects to td8811 or it needs aditional package or drivers
[08:15] <somsip> *Not something...
[08:16] <honeybuntu> Everything's soldered onto the mobo - I'm going to run Ubuntu for the remainder of my computing. It is the best sensible course to follow
[08:16] <varunendra> dino2k, The USB interface would need the bundled software. Unless they have supplied a linux version, I think you are stuck there. But what is the point of accessing/configuring it if you don't have the Ethernet cable to actually use it?
[08:17] <varunendra> dino2k, have you lost the cable that came with it?
[08:18] <dino2k> varunendra: the machine doesn't have a lan card
[08:19] <varunendra> dino2k, then are you thinking of using the network connection via USB interface? I'm not sure if that is even possible.
[08:19] <honeybuntu> If I might also ask, would it not be more efficient to run legacy bios (ms dos) on the dual core x64 ASUS w/Intel 2117U 1.8 GHz CPU?
[08:20] <dino2k> varunendra: it is possible . i am now using it in win and talking to you
[08:22] <varunendra> dino2k, then check "lsusb" to see if it detected it as some Ethernet-to-USB adapter or anything that can be used as a communication interface. Also check the output of "sudo lshw -C network".
[08:23] <varunendra> dino2k, in windows, you should be able to check "Device Manager" to see what kind of device it is recognized as.
[08:23] <honeybuntu> Rather than struggling with the EFI BIOS install factoring into a "real ppa purge fest".  I would lose some "cpu horse-power" but I would trade it for the stability of the Legacy BIOS mode.
[08:24] <dino2k> varunendra: thanks i will check it and will get back to you.
[08:24] <varunendra> np :)
[08:25] <honeybuntu> 3 app crashes related to Compiz in less than 2 hours, and multiple crashdown with Ubu Software Center.
[08:27] <honeybuntu> Ubu 12.04.3 surprisingly runs undaunted on 3 of my older laptops (circa 2011 - Toshiba Sats & Sony VIAOs)
[08:28] <honeybuntu> And just fine on Toshiba Sat i5 core w/16 GB RAM installed.
[08:32] <honeybuntu> The only dual boot of Ubu 12.04.3 LTS that I retained running MS Windows - is w/Ubu 12.04 x86 Intel & XP x86 - 1 app crash with Ubu Software Center in 3 months.
[08:33] <punter> Suddenly today my Alt+Shift combination doesn't change input language anymore... Does anyone have the same problem?
[08:33] <hitsujiTMO> punter: that combo changed with 13.10
[08:34] <punter> hitsujiTMO: I changed it back
[08:34] <punter> hitsujiTMO: but TODAY, this combo doesn't work
[08:34] <honeybuntu> Am trying to determine which Ubu is the best way to learn (command line) and retain stability/functionality. I found out i may only d/l  (1) mp3 at a time using Amazon mp3. Wow, that was a huge let down.
[08:35] <hitsujiTMO> punter: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1218322
[08:35] <vlt> Hello. How to mount an MTP device (an android 4.4 phone)?
[08:35] <honeybuntu> My grasp of cmd line is "rusty" at best.
[08:35] <ikonia> honeybuntu: we don't need a commentary please
[08:35] <punter> I re-set my hotkey to Alt+Shift, and now it works. THanks hitsujiTMO
[08:36] <ikonia> honeybuntu: if you need help with something, please ask, but we don't need a running commentary of your thought process please.
[08:36] <honeybuntu> But the askubuntu site is very helpful.
[08:36] <punter> hitsujiTMO: I believe the bug you sent to me, has been fixed months ago
[08:36] <honeybuntu> i did ask.
[08:36] <ikonia> honeybuntu: no-one said anything about askubuntu - in ubuntu IRC (this channel) please try to just ask questions about the help you need, rather than a running commentary of your thoughts.
[08:37] <honeybuntu> i did ask -
[08:38] <honeybuntu> shall i repeat the original question.
[08:38] <ikonia> honeybuntu: ok, so wait a little time if no-one responds and ask again clearly, rather than just keep rambling on
[08:38] <freedoom> hello everyone
[08:38] <honeybuntu> hello freedoom
[08:38] <Packjam> cool Pocket for Kobo works in linux
[08:38] <hitsujiTMO> punter: it hasn't been fixed. most use a ppa to fix, but it seems a recent update has caused a regression on that fix so its still broken for many. The latest entries now suggest that the change doesn't persist between boots
[08:39] <Packjam> helo freedoom
[08:39] <freedoom> short question to ask about wubi ubuntu installation
[08:39] <imghost> wubi dead
[08:39] <hitsujiTMO> freedoom: don't use wubi
[08:39] <freedoom> how can i increase the usr disk size?
[08:40] <freedoom> wubi alive, dont make my hdd crash
[08:40] <ikonia> freedoom: sorry, what he means is wubi as a product is dead/dying/not really in use any more
[08:40] <freedoom> installed ubuntu in dual boot and not happy
[08:41] <freedoom> oh, ok, but is there a way to increase the usr disk before installing
[08:41] <ikonia> freedoom: wubi installs to a "file" not a partition.
[08:41] <imghost> freedoom, use live usb,disk :)
[08:42] <freedoom> yes, and it makes virtual disks, but they are all the same size
[08:42] <freedoom> i have a lightweight version of lubuntu on usb
[08:42] <freedoom> it is ok
[08:42] <freedoom> but i need more space to be able to install apps
[08:43] <guidov> hi, the software updater hangs here: http://i.imgur.com/hzJp01G.png what should i do?
[08:43] <ikonia> freedoom: I thought the size of the file it used depended on the hard disk/free space of the file system it sits on  (I could be wrong on that though)
[08:43] <freedoom> i offer 20gb space for wubi install, but wubi makes 4 gb virtual disks no matter the size
[08:44] <ikonia> that seems unlikley,
[08:44] <freedoom> 4 gb home, 4 gb usr
[08:44] <ikonia> so that's 8GB then
[08:44] <ikonia> not 4
[08:44] <ikonia> what file system is this being run on, NTFS ?
[08:44] <freedoom> hoe and usr are on separate virtual disks
[08:44] <freedoom> home
[08:45] <freedoom> all i want is to make a 6gb or 8 gb usr disk so i can install more apps
[08:45] <witheld1> can someone help with a regular expression?
[08:45] <ikonia> what file system is this being run on, NTFS ?
[08:45] <gabrielb> Hello All. Have installed Ubuntu 12.04. looks great and is very different from CentOS, I am trying to configure it to send notifications via email. help?
[08:45] <ikonia> gabrielb: you'll need to explain what help you need beyond "help"
[08:46] <imghost> witheld1, use websearch search in automata or DLD not here ok
[08:46] <freedoom> i i have fat32 partition for ubuntu wubi
[08:46] <ikonia> freedoom: ok, so that's why it can't create disks more than 4GB
[08:46] <ikonia> freedoom: that is a file system limitation
[08:46] <freedoom> i see
[08:47] <freedoom> that helped, thanks
[08:49] <gabrielb> ikonia: Correct, Sorry... I tried configuring EXIM, it is very straight foreword, Added all of the relevant info and SMTP relay server, every thing looks fine but when I test it by echo "something" | mailx -v -s ... it just freezes, with no error and exit status of 0.
[08:49] <gabrielb> ikonia: even when I Ctrl +c
[08:51] <ikonia> make sure mail is being sent
[08:51] <ikonia> gabrielb: why don't you just do a simple mail test first
[08:51] <gabrielb> ikonia: like ?
[08:51] <ikonia> gabrielb: like send an email....
[08:52] <tpbw4321> Does anyone know if i can run 2 GPUs on Ubuntu. 1 ATI 1 Nvidia?
[08:53] <gabrielb> ikonia: I did with - mailx -v -s "test mail" gabriel@mymail.com
[08:53] <ikonia> tpbw4321: you can certainly run them - getting an X server to interact with them "shared" would be very limited
[08:53] <ikonia> gabrielb: then what happened.
[08:53] <gabrielb> ikonia: R: dnslookup for ***
[08:53] <gabrielb> T: remote_smtp for ***
[08:54] <ikonia> gabrielb: where are you seeing that ?
[08:55] <gabrielb> ikonia: on the server, from which I'm sending from. connected with putty
[08:55] <ikonia> "on the server" ??? where - what file ?, on the console ?
[08:55] <gabrielb> ikonia: console
[08:55] <ikonia> then there is something wrong
[08:55] <ikonia> as you should not be seeing anything like that on the console.
[08:55] <ikonia> dump the -v
[08:56] <ikonia> you don't need verbose output at this time
[08:56] <ikonia> you just want to test the mail
[08:56] <gabrielb> ikonia: Ok, will do so.
[09:00] <Repox> Hello. I put a job in the background by adding & to the end of the command. Now I did fg to open the job again, but I can stop the command or get out of fg by pressing Ctrl+c. How do i get out?
[09:00] <kamikaze_pigmy> uhm.. huh
[09:03] <somsip> Repox: CTRL Z to background it again
[09:03] <Repox> somsip: Thank you.
[09:04] <somsip> Repox: and FWIW, 'jobs' will list everything backgrounded
[09:04] <Repox> somsip: That's nice to know. Thank you.
[09:07] <allstarsnorks2> Hey guys, how do I install the MATE DE without installing any of the apps that come with it?
[09:08] <hact> ii freebsd 10.0 is out
[09:08] <hact> you are outdated
[09:09] <hitsujiTMO> allstarsnorks2: mate is not available in the ubuntu repos
[09:10] <honeybuntu> The question--> I ran boot repair on last install of Ubu 12.04 - on the ASUS w/UMA chipset (Intel Integrated Graphics config) got the necessary PPA (after 7 Compiz crashes, (unrelated to graphics config:
[09:10] <allstarsnorks2> What does it mean by 'Encountered a section with no package: header"?
[09:11] <honeybuntu> 5 incidents consecutively of swap & dev/mapper/cryptswap1 not mountable using even using the manual partitioning options 4 times thereafter to see if that would resolve the problem (used: LiveCD AMDx64, as thumbdrive LiveUSB install method (created with Unetbootin) was futile
[09:12] <honeybuntu> -> swap space (partition: dev/sda4) would not mount. Tried gksudo and sudo gedit on fstab, rc.local, crypttab in succession w/proper cmd line syntax. I now have a generic GRUB at bootime [EFI BIOS engaged w/Secure Boot] and swap is recognized and cryptswap1 is mounted at boot up. S
[09:12] <honeybuntu> Still Ubu Software Update stops responding at random intervals. I have a Windows Boot Manager option in Boot Selection as a result of using "boot-repair" .
[09:13] <honeybuntu> Would running Ubu 12.04 be more stable to install using Legacy BIOS mode in the alternative? (if not clear enough=>indicate)
[09:14] <hewhomust> why are you mounting swap
[09:14] <honeybuntu> I was instructed by an advanced Ubu 12.04 end-user that I had no need of even creating a swap file (aka swap space/partition)
[09:15] <hewhomust> just delete it and resize no point in mounting it
[09:16] <honeybuntu> Since i have 8 GB of RAM on this 1.8 GHz Intel 2117U dual core Vivo.
[09:16] <honeybuntu> To Swap or not to Swap? What is correct.
[09:18] <honeybuntu> Is it best just to toss the EFI BIOS install aside and utilize Legacy BIOS mode & forego the "mucking about" with EFI BIOS settings?
[09:19] <honeybuntu> I'm patient..
[09:19] <varunendra> honeybuntu, would you be dualbooting?
[09:19] <honeybuntu> No dual boot. Ubu 12.04.3 LTS x64 only.
[09:20] <varunendra> honeybuntu, then it doesn't matter whether you use EFI or Legacy. Go with whatever suits you more
[09:21] <honeybuntu> Do I have to setup a swap file since I have 8GB installed on this ASUS & 320 GB WDC HDD.
[09:22] <honeybuntu> Should I retain the Windows Boot Manager listed in BIOS "Boot Options"?
[09:22] <varunendra> honeybuntu, normally you can do away with swap if you have 8 GB RAM, but it is recommended to keep a 2GB swap anyway
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> honeybuntu: you will need 8.8Gb swap if you need hibernate functionality
[09:23] <varunendra> honeybuntu, that means there is/was windows installed on this system in EFI mode? Is it gone?
[09:23] <bibi234> I'm doing a test C program on ubuntu ("Hello world"), once it is compiled I can see a file with this icon : http://www.alastair.pro/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/application-x-executable.png , but when I double click on it nothing happens, I can only run it from the console, why can't I double click on it (like an exe file on windows)?
[09:24] <honeybuntu> I created a 4 GB swap and it wouldn't mount without a world of 'cmd line' rescue & tweaks.
[09:24] <wizard_A> in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot i see /etc/dnsmasq.conf but in ubuntu13.10 server i do not any such file??
[09:24] <honeybuntu> Yes - Windows 8 (Home) was installed.
[09:24] <francisquare> i installed somehow a webserver on my laptop (ubuntu) can't find what is it, i want to uninstall it
[09:24] <francisquare> is any can help me ?
[09:24] <varunendra> honeybuntu, is it a normal swap space or an encrypted one (cryptswap)?
[09:25] <honeybuntu> I removed the 500 GB hdd and replaced it w/an empty fresh 320 GB  WDC hdd.
[09:26] <honeybuntu> I created a simple swap space via ('DIY' ..er "Something Else"  partitioning option) on LiveCD
[09:27] <honeybuntu> I chose to encrypt my /home folder (on separate Ext4 partition)
[09:28] <honeybuntu> It automatically proceeded to encrypt swap (dev/mapper/cryptswap1 unable to mount).
[09:28] <honeybuntu> After the initial reboot following install.
[09:29] <varunendra> honeybuntu, choosing to encrypt /home also encrypts the swap space for protection of raw user data that may be left during sessions in swap. I don't have much experience with encrypted swap, so can't help there, sorry.
[09:29] <honeybuntu> You are the 1st one to tell me that. Thank you so muchly!
[09:29] <honeybuntu> Its ok.
[09:30] <varunendra> honeybuntu, have you also posted the output of fstab somewhere? Just curious to see it
[09:30] <glitsj16> hi people
[09:30] <varunendra> honeybuntu, I mean the output of "cat /etc/fstab"
[09:30] <honeybuntu> And I really don't have to bother with the swap file creation, either - thanks a million for that priceless tidbit.
[09:31] <varunendra> no problem :)
[09:31] <honeybuntu> I have it scribbled and snippets in files and folders of all the notes I kept in my trial & error install sessions.
[09:32] <honeybuntu> hold on. Yes.
[09:32] <zpm> hey if i compile a program, can i copy the compiled program to another computer with ubuntu and run it?
[09:32] <lvleph> can someone help diagnose why my .xsession is never called?
[09:32] <lvleph> zpm, yes
[09:32] <lvleph> as long as the dependencies are met
[09:33] <zpm> ok thank you
[09:33] <lvleph> this is what a binary is
[09:33] <zpm> nothing happens when i try to open the file, so the dependencies are probably not met
[09:33] <lvleph> how are you trying to open the file?
[09:34] <lvleph> and what is the program?
[09:34] <zpm> double click
[09:34] <Guest84204> can annyone here tell me how i can remove mysql if apt-get tells me there are open depenties of mysql? since the last update if problems to install or remove software. I use Xubuntu 12.04 and mysql-server-5.5 make the problems.
[09:34] <zpm> several compiled wallets for litecoin, digitalcoin, etc
[09:35] <Guest84204> i already searcht on the net but since now i cant find a way to solve...
[09:35] <lvleph> try using terminal to open it
[09:35] <lvleph> zpm
[09:35] <zpm> ok
[09:35] <lvleph> Guest84204, maybe try apt-get install -f
[09:35] <honeybuntu> I have it, how do I paste it?
[09:36] <lvleph> then you can try removing it again
[09:36] <honeybuntu> I mean "http://pastebin "
[09:36] <honeybuntu> how 2 pastebin?
[09:36] <varunendra> !pastebin | honeybuntu
[09:36] <Guest84204> apt-get install -f I have tried already. i also tried remove or purge
[09:37] <lvleph> Guest84204, can you paste the output of apt-get autoremove mysql
[09:37] <honeybuntu> copying and pasting that info 'ubottu'...
[09:37] <varunendra> honeybuntu, just goto paste.ubuntu.com and copy-paste the contents there. After submitting, give us the URL of the page that is returned
[09:37] <lvleph> can someone help diagnose why my .xsession is never called?
[09:38] <MAD_51> morning!
[09:38] <Guest84204> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[09:38] <Guest84204> Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut
[09:38] <Guest84204> Statusinformationen werden eingelesen... Fertig
[09:38] <Guest84204> E: Paket mysql kann nicht gefunden werden
[09:38] <honeybuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6872079/
[09:39] <honeybuntu> Wow! That was slick.
[09:39] <lvleph> Guest84204, looks like it isn't installed
[09:39] <Guest84204> the output of apt-get install -f
[09:39] <Guest84204> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[09:39] <Guest84204> Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut
[09:39] <Guest84204> Statusinformationen werden eingelesen... Fertig
[09:39] <Guest84204> Abhängigkeiten werden korrigiert... Fertig
[09:39] <Guest84204> Die folgenden Pakete wurden automatisch installiert und werden nicht mehr benötigt:
[09:39] <Guest84204>   libhtml-template-perl mysql-server-core-5.5 mysql-server-5.5
[09:39] <Guest84204> Verwenden Sie »apt-get autoremove«, um sie zu entfernen.
[09:39] <Guest84204> Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
[09:39] <Guest84204>   mysql-server-5.5
[09:39] <Guest84204> Vorgeschlagene Pakete:
[09:39] <Guest84204>   tinyca
[09:40] <Guest84204> Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert (Upgrade):
[09:40] <Guest84204>   mysql-server-5.5
[09:40] <Guest84204> 1 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 20 nicht aktualisiert.
[09:40] <fidel> Guest84204: stop that please
[09:40] <Guest84204> 1 nicht vollständig installiert oder entfernt.
[09:40] <Guest84204> Es müssen noch 0 B von 8.820 kB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
[09:40] <Guest84204> Nach dieser Operation werden 1.024 B Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
[09:40] <lvleph> Guest84204, please pastebin things that are that long
[09:40] <Guest84204> Möchten Sie fortfahren [J/n]? j
[09:40] <fidel> Guest84204: use some sort of nopaste
[09:40] <Guest84204> dpkg: Abhängigkeitsprobleme verhindern Konfiguration von mysql-server-5.5:
[09:40] <Guest84204>  mysql-server-5.5 hängt ab von mysql-server-core-5.5 (= 5.5.35-0ubuntu0.12.04.1); aber:
[09:40] <Guest84204>   Version von mysql-server-core-5.5 auf dem System ist 5.5.35-0ubuntu0.12.04.2.
[09:40] <Guest84204> dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von mysql-server-5.5 (--configure):
[09:40] <Guest84204>  Abhängigkeitsprobleme - verbleibt unkonfiguriert
[09:40] <DJones> !paste | Guest84204
[09:40] <Guest84204> Es wurde kein Apport-Bericht verfasst, da das Limit MaxReports bereits erreicht ist
[09:40] <Guest84204>    Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
[09:40] <Guest84204>  mysql-server-5.5
[09:40] <Guest84204> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:40] <fidel> reaching the end
[09:40] <varunendra> honeybuntu, looks like you've had quite some battle with swap/fstab :P
[09:40] <honeybuntu> Amd how...
[09:41] <honeybuntu> heh heh, and how
[09:41] <Guest84204> okay, i dont know that. i will use pastebin next time
[09:42] <Guest84204> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6872091/
[09:43] <honeybuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6872095/
[09:45] <honeybuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6872100/
[09:46] <agger> hi all, i've been experimenting with mount in an ubuntu precise chroot and now i have /dev/loop0 on / type squashfs (ro) which wasn't present before. Can i remove this? and can I mount a squashfs image over my / ?
[09:46] <honeybuntu> I have yet to exceed using more than 2 GB of RAM
[09:46] <varunendra> Guest84204, if it is a fresh attempt, you may try removing the offending package (mysql-server-core-5.5) to fix the issue.
[09:46] <lvleph> Guest84204, try apt-get install mysql-server-core-5.5
[09:47] <qurly> Hey All
[09:47] <lvleph> varunendra, my understanding is that it isn't installed
[09:47] <qurly> Just Check it www.qurly.in
[09:47] <lvleph> my German does suck though
[09:48] <varunendra> lvleph, I used transtation :P
[09:48] <honeybuntu> I learned an immense amount in 1 sitting. I don't like to come & bother. I appreciate the sharing of knowledge. Priceless. Thanks tons varunendra!
[09:48] <varunendra> it is installed, but an older version, a common problem where dpkg gets stuck, lvleph
[09:48] <lvleph> you are right
[09:49] <lvleph> Guest84204, do as varunendra said
[09:49] <varunendra> honeybuntu, the help was just a few milligrams I guess :P
[09:49] <Guest84204> i have tried. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6872114/
[09:50] <pip> hi everybody.  I'm having some trouble trying to set up a samba share on a second hard drive.  Could mounting it in the media directory be a problem?
[09:50] <wizard_A> i want to install os onto other system connected over the network. i'm running ubuntu server 13.10 amd64.
[09:51] <pip> 13.10 64 bit desktop, fresh install
[09:51] <honeybuntu> Coffee, aspirin and Mozart helped.
[09:51] <varunendra> honeybuntu, I don't know much about cryptswap, but from I have seen on the forums, it is probably best to let the system deal with it its own way instead of trying to change/manipulate it
[09:51] <lvleph> pip, samba doesn't care where something is mounted
[09:51] <pip> lvleph: I was afraid of that
[09:52] <lvleph> it just needs permissions to read it and needs a proper config
[09:52] <lvleph> pip samba has a channel on freenode, go there for help
[09:52] <lvleph> it will be worth it
[09:52] <honeybuntu> ..too,  I'm now much more aware of that facet re: encrypting of /home (subsequently swap along w/ home partition - yikes).
[09:52] <pip> lvleph: great I didn't know that - thanks, if only freenode was woeking for me
[09:53] <pip> :D
[09:53] <lvleph> are you not using a irc client right now pip?
[09:53] <lvleph> #ubuntu is on freenode, which is why I ask.
[09:53] <honeybuntu> Thanks people for instruction on "pastbin" usage.
[09:53] <pip> lvleph: yup, but for a couple of days trying to connect to freenode simply fails miserably
[09:54] <varunendra> Guest84204, what happens if you try - "sudo dpkg -P mysql-server-core-5.5" ??
[09:54] <lvleph> yeah I have had the same trouble pip, but I found this http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=zipit
[09:54] <Guest84204> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6872124/
[09:54] <pip> lvleph: you, sir or madam, are a hero or heroine
[09:55] <zpm> i get an error-  digitalcoin.qt: error while loading shared libraries: libdb_cxx-5.1.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:55] <zpm> have libdb5.1 installed
[09:56] <zpm> ldd digitalcoin-qt shows a few missing dependencies
[09:56] <varunendra> Guest84204, looks good to me. Now try "sudo apt-get install -f". Success? New problem?
[09:58] <lvleph> can someone help diagnose why my .xsession is never called?
[09:58] <Guest84204> varunendra, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6872140/
[09:58]  * varunendra thinks .... because there is a cross mark before 'session', lvleph :P
[09:59] <Guest84204> varunendra, if i say yes i get the same error as before...
[09:59] <wizard_A> how to run tftpd-hpa?
[10:01] <varunendra> Guest84204, does "sudo apt-get autoremove" succeed?
[10:02] <Guest84204> varunendra, no, shows me the same error message
[10:02] <darknoir> hello there
[10:03] <IsNotMyIP> Hey
[10:03] <varunendra> Guest84204, was the "dpkg -P.." command succeeded successfully ? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6872124/)
[10:04] <grwywerye3t> Czym sie rozni Polska wersja Ubuntu od innymch?
[10:04] <DJones> !pl | grwywerye3t
[10:04] <honeybuntu> What is the meaning of this terminal response: "The owner of /root/.config/ibus/bus is not root"!
[10:05] <k1l> honeybuntu: dont run sudo with gui commands!
[10:05] <honeybuntu> Jest kanale polski na Ubuntu grwywerye3t
[10:05] <Guest84204> varunenddra, yes its was without errors.
[10:05] <k1l> !pl | honeybuntu
[10:06] <honeybuntu> Oh, didn't know , thanks k1l
[10:06] <zpm> how can i find what library libdb_cxx-5.1.so is in
[10:06] <zpm> to install it
[10:07] <OerHeks> !find  libdb_cxx-5.1
[10:07] <zpm> sweet thank you
[10:08] <varunendra> Guest84204, the error message doesn't make sense to me then. If dpkg -P was a success, it means the offending package (and its config files) should no more exist in the system. There is another 'Blind Shot' we can try though
[10:08] <Guest84204> vanunendra, i just tried "sudo dpkg -P mysql-server-5.5" that was with a question if all databases should be deletet to. After that the errors from apt-get are solved
[10:08] <grwywerye3t> What is the difference between the Polish version of ubuntu than others?
[10:09] <IsNotMyIP> language? maybe grwywerye3t
[10:09] <Guest84204> vanunendra, thanks for your help! I wish you a nice day
[10:09] <varunendra> Guest84204, so do we consider the problem solved now? :o
[10:09] <DJones> grwywerye3t: I would suspect, just the language packs
[10:09] <grwywerye3t> only language?
[10:09] <zpm> thank you everyone for your help, i have solved my problem
[10:09] <IsNotMyIP> I think so
[10:09] <varunendra> Guest84204, yay !!
[10:09] <IsNotMyIP> +(
[10:09] <grwywerye3t> Ok. Thank you for answear :)
[10:09] <IsNotMyIP> =)
[10:09] <IsNotMyIP> your welcome
[10:10] <honeybuntu> The translations are not altogether as informative in the Polish language but the commands and syntax are always consistent in translation.
[10:11] <honeybuntu> Translations for some of the program apps not always well explained.
[10:13] <honeybuntu> The Polish Ubuntu channel here in freenode is very receptive and helpful.
[10:14] <honeybuntu> They helped me there despite my US keyboard.
[10:17] <lvleph> how do I get lightdm to call .xsession on login?
[10:21] <Chanito> Hey guys, i recently got a problem with my installation, all the windows are really big and don't fit the entire screen anymore and so is the drop-down box, it's like the desktop got zoomed in somehow, i was wondering if anyone could help me solve the problem please. I am not running compiz either. Thanks
[10:22] <glitsj16> lvleph: lightdm sources /.profile and ./xprofile in that order i believe, have you tried putting your commands in one of those yet?
[10:24] <glitsj16> lvleph: http://askubuntu.com/questions/150487/what-happens-under-the-covers-to-log-me-in-and-start-up-the-unity-graphics-user gives some more info on what is happening, not only for unity as the url might suggest..
[10:26] <glitsj16> lvleph: i forgot the ~ in both cases
[10:26] <euryale> Hi guys do u know how can i make a backup of my xubuntu 13.10 installation i have done many changes in the distro, i wish to preserve that.
[10:27] <Tasab> ubuntu , 13.10 & ubuntu 12.04 LTS , is there a big gaps between both , thanks
[10:27] <honeybuntu> Thank u people for your insight, time & patience, as well as enduring my "waffling"
[10:28] <varunendra> Chanito, have you checked the Screen Resolution? (System Settings > Displays)
[10:29] <honeybuntu> Going to exact what I've learned here (re-install, no swap file necessary - don't fool w/executables outside of root). Got it. So long for now.
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> !backup | euryale
[10:32] <Chanito> varunendra: Yes, it's really weird, and i have searched for ever and have not found any solution yet, it was all good recently then this happened
[10:33] <varunendra> Chanito, so what is the current screen resolution?
[10:33] <luxpir> anyone used obnam 1.6.1 on 12.04? having trouble getting it built properly.
[10:33] <euryale> @monkeydust can make a backup then install the distro again? not just backup.
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> euryale  you mean an installable copy?
[10:34] <euryale> yes that's it :D
[10:35] <GREAT_JOB_OPERS> http://box.ra.pe:8080/
[10:35] <foofoobar> Is there anything I need to consider when resizing a SSD with gparted (I'm booting with ubuntu livecd)
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> euryale  is this useful http://www.howtogeek.com/109736/how-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-or-usb/
[10:36] <varunendra> euryale, I preferred Remastersys for that purpose, not sure if the project is still alive or not or how well it works with the latest versions. But a clonezilla (or any disk imaging tool's) backup will also serve the purpose.
[10:36] <Chanito> varunendra: It was my font settings apparently, got it fixed :)
[10:37] <varunendra> Chanito, lol !! :D
[10:37] <euryale> @monkeydust thank u for the link, currently reviewing now.
[10:38] <lvleph> glitsj16, thanks. This is what I ended up finding, but haven't checked if it works yet.
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> euryale  drop the @ and use !tab completion
[10:39] <glitsj16> lvleph: very welcome, so many things happening on login, i liked the overview given there
[10:40] <euryale> MonkeyDust,  okies :D
[10:45] <hermacet> It would seem that i have a SSD that i can see through gParted, but not currently through the filemanager. I take it a simple partitioning and formating with ext4 would be sufficent to access it. Also, i am considering using it as a linux installation media so i always have a backup of kubuntu in case i muck something up. Is this doable with say unetbootin, to extract the kubuntu iso onto the SSD and boot from it?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> hermacet: if the partitions are not mounted the file manager will not see them
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> hermacet: you don't extract the ISO
[10:46] <glitsj16> luxpir: have you checked if the .deb on the official site is compatible with 12.04 yet? http://code.liw.fi/debian/pool/main/o/obnam/
[10:48] <hermacet> perhaps extract is wrong word, my apologies. I'm not natively english speaking. What i mean is unpacking it, as when making a usb stick as installationmedia for linux
[10:48] <luxpir> glitsj16: I'm not sure I'd know how -> I added the PPA to my sources.list to get the latest 1.6.1 version, and its dependencies. it all installed ok but errors out when I run it.
[10:49] <Tasab> ??
[10:50] <glitsj16> luxpir: what PPA exactly? i only saw 2 but those only offer 1.5 iirc .. and you can see the dependencies if you just extract the .deb file and look inside the DEBIAN/control file
[10:51] <luxpir> glitsj16: i get some trace calls to python related functions, I think there's a possibility I need to downgrade from 2.7.3 to 2.6?
[10:51] <luxpir> glitsj16: https://launchpad.net/~chris-bigballofwax/+archive/obnam-ppa/
[10:51] <luxpir> (first ppa i've used)
[10:52] <glitsj16> luxpir: these are the dependencies for the 1.6.1-1 deb from the dev himself --> libc6 (>= 2.6), python (>= 2.7), python (<< 2.8), python-larch (>= 1.20131130~), python-ttystatus (>= 0.22~), python-paramiko, python-tracing (>= 0.6~), python-cliapp (>= 1.20130313~), python-fuse
[10:52] <luxpir> glitsj16: ah you're right. then I removed that and added the unstable and wheezy precise sources to get the latest, and so we circle back to your first question
[10:52] <glitsj16> luxpir: yes that offers a lower version
[10:54] <glitsj16> luxpir: i think you'd have better luck with the regular deb from that site, not the wheezy one
[10:55] <luxpir> glitsj16: thanks for the tip - on a 64bit 12.04 server - should i grab the 1.6.1-1 i386.deb?
[10:55] <glitsj16> luxpir: you can run "apt-get cache policy <pkg>" to see if it will work on 12.04
[10:55] <glitsj16> luxpir: no grab the 64bit it that case
[10:56] <luxpir> it says amd64... I'm not certain, but will 'look up' the command to display the server info now
[10:58] <luxpir> glitsj16: it's an intel cpu on the server in question. and thanks for hte policy tip - I can just run that on the deb file?
[11:00] <glitsj16> luxpir: there's a dry run switch also that will keep you informed about what will happen if you try to install a deb --> sudo dpkg --dry-run -i ./xxx.deb .. i wasn't clear, no you'd run that policy command on all the dependencies mentioned to see it they are all ok, but a dry run has the same effect
[11:00] <zykotick9> glitsj16: luxpir it's "apt-cache policy foo" to check the repo for a package, i don't think "apt-get cache policy foo" is valid.
[11:00] <luxpir> thanks - will test now
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> hermacet: you use unetbootin to make bootable usb sticks....
[11:00] <glitsj16> zykotick9: correct! thank you
[11:01] <zykotick9> luxpir: "dpkg --print-architecture" will show you if you're using amd64 or i686
[11:02] <luxpir> the dry run reports i386... so, it must be that (ignorance is bliss?!)
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> luxpir: I suggest you contact the PPA maintainer
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[11:04] <luxpir> thanks ActionParsnip - I will try glitsj16 and zykotick9 advice and then approach the ppa maintainer.
[11:04] <luxpir> out of interest, why would the precise/universe version be so out of date?
[11:05] <GOOD_JOB_OPERS> http://box.ra.pe:8080/
[11:05] <luxpir> is it just the dev (lars) not having time to keep the repo up to date?
[11:06] <glitsj16> luxpir: because it's from 2012? :) .. and lars doesn't maintain the PPA's .. he just codes i guess
[11:06] <luxpir> ok
[11:06] <luxpir> thanks for your assistance, btw, it's encouraging. was close to giving up and rsyncing :)
[11:07] <glitsj16> luxpir: in a few months trusty will have the latest version of obnam in the regular ubuntu repos
[11:08] <luxpir> glitsj16: interesting. would that mean me upgrading my vps from precise? first vps I've managed myself, and went for 12.04 for LTS/stability etc.
[11:09] <glitsj16> luxpir: you could yes, as 14.04 will also be LTS
[11:09] <Somelauw> So, I installed ubuntu and now I'm in grub and I got a windows 7 loader on both /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2, why?
[11:09] <Somelauw> what did that installer do?
[11:19] <hlavaty> why does ubuntu 12.04 lts insists on removing libtidy-0.99-0:i386 when installing tidy or libtidy-0.99-0?  should not i386 and amd64 libs live independently from each other?
[11:23] <Baribal__> Hi. I just tried making a backup of my home directory with cp -R. However, the resulting directory is 53G big, while the home directory is 66G. What are likely candidates for not having been copied, and how can I actually find out?
[11:24] <luxpir> glitsj16: good news! For now though, I just checked, after installing the i386 deb (getting same errors) and all the dependencies are in place and >= those v nums
[11:25] <hlavaty> Baribal__: use rsync -av src dest instead of cp -R
[11:25] <LostDoc> Hey guys. I'm attempting to recover an open office spreadsheet that was mistakenly deleted. (*.ods) from a Windows 8 machine. Now, fortunately, I've also got Ubuntu LTS installed on the same laptop, so I can boot that u and install testdisk and photorec to recover the file. Does anybody know which of the filetypes will catch *.ods? The format isn't mentioned by itself in photorec's list.
[11:25] <glitsj16> luxpir: nice, the 1.6.1 fixes a bad bug so it's advised to not run anything below
[11:26] <luxpir> glitsj16: just discovered libc6 was below required v num - updating now
[11:26] <Baribal__> hlavaty, thanks for the tip (though I didn't intend it to become an incremental backup), but still, what would cause a file/directory to not be cp -R'd?
[11:26] <foofoobar> Is there anything I need to consider when resizing a SSD with gparted (I'm booting with ubuntu livecd)
[11:27] <foofoobar> Baribal__, permissions
[11:27] <luxpir> glitsj16: it won't update past v 2.15-0ubunto10... odd
[11:27] <hlavaty> Baribal__: maybe symlinks or hardlinks or permissions?  use rsync
[11:28] <glitsj16> luxpir: 2.15.. of what exactly?
[11:28] <luxpir> libc6
[11:29] <geirha> Baribal__: Or if the target filesystem has limitations on what characters filenames may contain
[11:30] <glitsj16> luxpir: what does "apt-cache policy libc6" say? obnam should be fine with anything >= 2.6
[11:31] <LostDoc> \join #libreoffice
[11:32] <michagogo|cloud> !12.04.3
[11:33] <michagogo|cloud> What are the 12.04.x releases called?
[11:33] <milamber> !12.04
[11:33] <zykotick9> michagogo|cloud: point releases, i believe
[11:33] <luxpir> glitsj16: it only mentions version 2.15-0ubuntu10.5 of libc6
[11:33] <michagogo|cloud> What are they, in terms of what the actual update is?
[11:34] <glitsj16> luxpir: just checked, i think you're out of luck, at least with the deb install .. looks like python-larch needs at least the ubuntu version from trusty.. have you tried installing/building from git?
[11:35] <zykotick9> michagogo|cloud: basically, security/bug fixes updates to the install media
[11:35] <luxpir> glitsj16: i did - but i might not have been doing it right. (thanks for ongoing help) - cloned it, ran setup.py build, then setup.py install. but there was a build error.
[11:35] <luxpir> glitsj16: where did you see that about larch, out of interest? if i could perhaps get my libc6 version up to spec it could still work?
[11:38] <schreber> Has anyone run across issues with the latest Chromium (32.0.1700.102) and flash/shockwave acting wonky?
[11:38] <glitsj16> luxpir: doubtfull, i saw the python-larch dependency of obnam 1.6.1 in the DEBIAN control file, it mentions python-larch (>= 1.20131130~) and also python-cliapp (>= 1.20130313~), both of which are not available for precise
[11:39] <morpheus07> Hi guys I have a problem in running my python code on port 80 on my localhost. It is running on other ports but this port number 80 is creating me a problem. Can someone please help ?
[11:40] <glitsj16> luxpir: can you pastebin your install output please? it's odd that it only complains about libc6 (which i wouldn't advise *at all* to mess with..)
[11:41] <luxpir> glitsj16: it doesn't complain about libc6 - i went off your dependency nums above.
[11:41] <prx> hey, just installed SRware iron browser, but cant really find how to launch it... i used the .deb package... any ideas?
[11:42] <prx> woop i got it, sorry :)
[11:42] <luxpir> glitsj16: when i run obnam after install: http://pastebin.com/tPrRe7Hn < these are the errors i get
[11:42] <luxpir> related to cliapp, all of them
[11:43] <glitsj16> luxpir: ahh, it will complain on python-larch and python-cliapp, probably why you got the build error earlier
[11:43] <luxpir> glitsj16: but i got them from the ppa and when i list dpkg -l python* i can see larch and cliapp up to date
[11:43] <prx> i just opened iron browser and it seems to be using Chromium, exactly the same...
[11:43] <prx> is that normal?
[11:44] <prx> i cant really tell if its chromium or iron :<
[11:44] <vlt> Hello. I try to mount an MTP device (an android 4.4 phone) by installing ppa:langdalepl/gvfs-mtp. I get python errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6872604/  Any idea how to fix this?
[11:44] <glitsj16> luxpir: what does "apt-cache policy python)larch python-cliapp" give you?
[11:44] <glitsj16> python-larch sorry about the )
[11:45] <ikonia> vlt: talk to the PPA owner to fix them
[11:46] <luxpir> installed: larch is 1.20131130-1 and cliapp is 1.20130424-1ubuntu1 (candidate is for squeeze - 1.20130808-1.squeeze)
[11:46] <luxpir> glitsj16: but i'm not sure what candidate is :)
[11:49] <glitsj16> luxpir: candidate gives you info on what possible versions are in your repos to install .. so you still have the PPA i assume, correct? that's where they seem to stem from
[11:49] <luxpir> yep
[11:49] <luxpir> correct glitsj16
[11:50] <luxpir> glitsj16: i wonder if i don't try to update cliapp to the squeeze version?
[11:50] <ikonia> err no
[11:50] <glitsj16> luxpir: what happens exactly when you "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/downloaded/obnam1.6.1.deb" ?
[11:50] <mzdravkov> i want to install mysql-server from a script, but the installer stops to ask for root user. Is there a way to give to the installer the root user info when invoking the command? or making it to skip asking for root info and manually add it later?
[11:50] <ikonia> mzdravkov: look up response files
[11:51] <glitsj16> luxpir: the version of python-cliapp you have installed satisfies the dependency, i wouldn't go for the squeeze
[11:53] <luxpir> glitsj16: noted for the cliapp v. and just ran another dpkg (on top of existing) and it unpacked a replacement for obnam
[11:53] <glitsj16> luxpir: any errors this time around?
[11:53] <luxpir> but same error as pastebin
[11:54] <luxpir> when running obnam
[11:54] <glitsj16> luxpir: yes the pastebin shows what happens when you run it, would be interesting to see what ther dpkg -i command spits out exactly
[11:55] <luxpir> glitsj16: even when i have a version installed? I'll pastebin it.
[11:55] <glitsj16> luxpir: you can use the --dry-run switch
[11:56] <luxpir> glitsj16: ok - dry run just says: Preparing to replace obnam 1.6.1-1 (using obnam_1.6.1-1_i386.deb) ...
[11:56] <glitsj16> luxpir: no otther complaints?
[11:56] <glitsj16> *other
[11:56] <luxpir> none
[11:58] <glitsj16> luxpir: sorry i'm a bit confused about the error you get, is that from the latest obnam deb or from the PPA one? can't really see that in the earlier paste
[11:58] <luxpir> there's still the libc6 version num that could be at fault.
[11:59] <luxpir> glitsj16: no, it's not an installer error (sorry) I just get an error when running obnam backup or even just obnam (blank)
[11:59] <luxpir> obnam --version shows me 1.6.1 and obnam --help enumerates the commands
[12:00] <glitsj16> luxpir: not likely, obnam needs only libc v 2.6, anything since lucid is higher
[12:00] <luxpir> but when running a backup i get those critical err msgs
[12:01] <luxpir> glitsj16: isn't my version og libc6 (2.15) lower than that?
[12:01] <luxpir> dpkg -l libc6* shows 2.15-0ubuntu10.05
[12:02] <zykotick9> luxpir: think of it as 2.06 vs 2.15
[12:02] <glitsj16> luxpir: might be another bug in that case, i would contact lars directly
[12:03] <luxpir> oh - is that how version nums work? i've always assumed they were decimal
[12:03] <luxpir> ok i'll go ahead and do that - thanks for your time. i'll report back if anything positive comes of it glitsj16
[12:04] <luxpir> zykotick9: (reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_versioning)
[12:05] <glitsj16> luxpir: http://liw.fi/obnam/bugs/ .. and that would be helpfull, especially for the upcoming trusty .. hope you get an answer so you can do backups securely again
[12:14] <luny> hey, I have USB hard drive attached on a Windows 7 PC
[12:15] <luny> I'd like to write ubunto on that USB hd using my windows 7 pc
[12:15] <luny> and then remove the USB hd, and attatch it to another PC that doens't have any hard drives at all
[12:15] <luny> and then have the new PC boot from that USB hd
[12:16] <luny> can't find guides on how to do it, all guides are about writing USB stick or installing along side your previous windows installation
[12:17] <synthor> hi internet
 hi computer :D
[12:18] <synthor> any chance to get ubuntu 12.04.3 with two nvidia gt610 and four monitors to get working with unity3d?
[12:18] <geirha> luny: 1. put the iso on a dvd or usb stick, 2. boot the iso or usb stick, 3. install to the external drive, but make sure to tell it the boot loader (grub) should be installed on the external drive. By default grub gets installed on your main harddrive.
[12:18] <synthor> googling since a days and can't find a solution.....i downloaded 13.10 and i hope the bug is fixed in it?!
[12:18] <geirha> luny: And if it installs it on the main hard drive, you won't be able to boot your windows anymore
[12:19] <geirha> luny: (or well, you will be able to boot it, but only when the external drive is connected)
[12:23] <PotatoHead007> Hello, can someone tell me the channel i must join if i want help to register my IRC name?
[12:24] <luny> geirha, thanks.. but that sounds a bit too risky for my tastes at the moment :o
[12:24] <DJones> !register | PotatoHead007
[12:24] <ABC-XYZ> you could easily fix that using boot recovery with a windows install disc though
[12:24] <PotatoHead007> thanks :)
[12:24] <ABC-XYZ> or just bootrec /fixmbr
[12:25] <geirha> luny: why can't you do the installation on the harddriveless machine?
[12:26] <glitsj16> luxpir: one more question on obnam .. what command did you give it *exactly* ?  your error shows .. KeyError: 'respository' .. might just be a typo?
[12:27] <obsidian> Luny- doesn't matter where you install Ubuntu (either on a USB drive, or alongside Windows on your PC) you still need GRUB  in order to boot Ubuntu. If you wanna use your external USB drive for all your personal stuff, format the external drive to ext4 format and during the Ubuntu Install make sure you install the boot loader on your PC then mount the /home directory to your newly formatted USB drive.
[12:28] <newbie1> hi sorrz for the question.i know this is for ubuntu but i have a question about my debian installation.i installed the os but there was no window where i could type a username and password.so when i boot debian i come on the desktop but there is a login window.
[12:28] <newbie1> but what do i have to type now for default login_
[12:28] <newbie1> ?
[12:29] <newbie1> is there something like a default username and password ?
[12:29] <luny> geirha, the other pc has a broken motherboard, it doesn't recognize anything I plug into it's sata/ide slots
[12:29] <luny> so I can't use DVD or standard HD in it.. only USB
[12:29] <zykotick9> newbie1: "/j #debian" but it DID ask for a username password...  (unless it's not really debian...)
[12:30] <geirha> luny: And you don't have any usb sticks to install with?
[12:31] <luny> geirha, yes I have sticks.. and I wrote ubunti image on one of them but it just boots it up from the stick, can't install anymore at that phase
[12:32] <luny> so I guess I should look for an image I can write to USB that will then install to USB HD after boot
[12:32] <geirha> Installing to an USB hd should be no different than installing to an "internal" HD
[12:33] <luxpir> glitsj16: before i send this email to lars - I just have a config file set up for sftp (not sure if that's right) and tried obnam backup
[12:33] <luxpir> and then another "obnam backup /path/to/files /backup"
[12:33] <luxpir> same errors
[12:34] <geirha> luny: so it sounds more like it's not detecting the USB HD for some reason
[12:35] <luny> no.. heh this is hard to explain.. what I would apparently need, is a method to boot from USB STICK, and after it has booted, a method to install to USB HD
[12:35] <glitsj16> luxpir: well it would have been too sweet :)  i thought perhaps a typo in something like ./obnam backup --repository /tmp/mybackup $HOME could be the cause, but i'll leave it at that, thanks for your reply
[12:36] <Segfault_> WEFFA
[12:37] <geirha> luny: Yes, the regular Ubuntu ISO can do that.
[12:37] <geirha> luny: So if you put the Ubuntu iso on the USB stick, then boot the machine with both the USB stick and USB HD connected, you should be able to install Ubuntu on it
[12:38] <luny> oh.. that's awesome.. I already have that stick, I'll just boot it up, see you in a minute :
[12:38] <luny> :)
[12:39] <luxpir> glitsj16: email set to lars, including transcript of our exchange. thanks for your assistance!
[12:39] <glitsj16> luxpir: can't resist .. can you check if there isn't a typo inside your ~/.obnam.conf? 'respository' looks awfully close to 'repository' .. just a longshot thought
[12:40] <luxpir> you're right!
[12:40] <glitsj16> luxpir: very welcome, obnam is a nice tool, that's why i noticed your question here
[12:40] <luxpir> i have to contact Lars.
[12:40] <glitsj16> lol, he'll have a chuckle :p
[12:42] <glitsj16> luxpir: still, the command should have been refused if it saw the wrong config key, so the mail won't hurt
[12:43] <dupingping> oh, sorry
[12:44] <luxpir> The worst of it: I'm a professional translator/proofreader.
[12:44] <dupingping> what's a obname?
[12:44] <dupingping> ah, obnam?
[12:44] <glitsj16> luxpir: :) easy enough to miss
[12:44] <glitsj16> dupingping: yes, obnam, a backup tool
[12:45] <luxpir> dupingping: obnam (obligatory name) is a great backup tool, with which you have to be very careful not to misconfigure your config file
[12:45] <dupingping> ah, yes thank u very much!!!
[12:45] <dupingping> hello.
[12:46] <dupingping> i have many time.
[12:46] <dupingping> but i haven't any job.
[12:46] <Rajnish> exit
[12:47] <dupingping> Rajnish: what?
[12:48] <dupingping> who give me a great job?
[12:49] <glitsj16> dupingping: most if not all people here are volunteers, not likely to find a job in this channel :)
[12:50] <dupingping> oh
[12:50] <dupingping> i see
[12:50] <dupingping> i don't need money
[12:50] <dupingping> glitsj16: i don't need money
[12:50] <ikonia> you said that
[12:51] <ikonia> no need for more conversation
[12:51] <dupingping> what? ikonia
[12:52] <dupingping> i'm a beginner.
[12:52] <glitsj16> dupingping: i do understand, sympathise even .. this is just not the channel, as people yesterday also tried to explain
[12:53] <ikonia> you said that
[12:53] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[12:53] <ikonia> buffer spill
[12:53] <DJones> dupingping: If you just want general chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic this channel is just for support issues
[12:54] <dupingping> oic!
[12:55] <luxpir> glitsj16: it's working away now. It's a relief! Thanks for coming back to me on the typo. It's backing up the git repo... I wonder if that's productive/efficient?
[12:58] <paddy> hello everyone
[12:58] <paddy> how can i boot into a console with plain VGA and no GUI, please?
[13:01] <glitsj16> luxpir: glad to hear that, i just got lucky on the possible typo .. might be more knowledgeable people here when it comes to backing up git repos, i think it should work just fine for that purpose
[13:02] <luxpir> glitsj16: no harm in it, at least. will let it run (and run).
[13:04] <dupingping> hello
[13:04] <glitsj16> luxpir: i especially like the push/pull concept of obnam, and it's general ease to produce encrypted snapshots, but i haven't even began checking all its capabilities
[13:08] <Somelauw> So, I installed ubuntu and now I'm in grub and I got a windows 7 loader on both /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2, why?
[13:08] <Somelauw> what did that installer do?
[13:14] <Segfault_> Somelauw: I am seeing the same thing on my laptop. I think the second option is Windows restore. That hidden partition many computers have
[13:15] <dupingping> Segfault_: I think that is impossible.
[13:16] <dupingping> grub and winbootloader aren't share mbr.
[13:17] <dupingping> ah~
[13:17] <dupingping> can exists other way.
[13:17] <dupingping> Segfault_: sorry my mistakes.
[13:18] <dupingping> i am only a beginner.
[13:31] <Gnjurac> i am thinking of buying this laptop it hes AMD A4-3300M 1.9 GHZ RADEON HD 6650M 1GB 8gb of ram so mu bigest question will it work normal beacuse i heard thet linux sux when have intregareted and non intregretaed card
[13:32] <compdoc> Gnjurac, Ive installed 13.10 on an a6-5200, and it seems to work well
[13:32] <Gnjurac> compdoc:  yes but do you have 2 grafics or only 1
[13:33] <juanca> Hello!
[13:33] <compdoc> just the video on the cpu
[13:38] <euryale> alt+tab doesn't work in xubuntu with compiz installed.
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> euryale  why compiz in xubuntu? the purpose of xfce is: not using compiz
[13:41] <euryale> i do not crave eyecandy or some fancy fx, but there are some that allows me to do wat i want (smooth fluid animation) alt+tab and scale effects those two are important to me.
[13:43] <NictraSavios> Is it possible to have four monitors work on a single nVidia card, or do I need a second card? (Or is it card specific?)
[13:46] <Wilkim> hello, I have ubuntu-server 13.10 with nginx, php5-fpm, mysql, etc. nginx and php5-fpm use user/group www-data. I added the www-data group to my username, and have 770 for folders 660 for file permissions. Is it possible in any way to have it when I use git pull, or composer, to have them use the www-data username/group so I dont have to do a chown everytime afterwards?
[13:46] <ikonia> setuid/setgid
[13:48] <Wilkim> ikonia, thats directed towards me?
[13:48] <ikonia> Wilkim: yes
[13:48] <Wilkim> Thank you :) now what do I do with them lol
[13:49] <ikonia> set them ?
[13:49] <Wilkim> I should include im fairly new to linux :P
[13:49] <ikonia> Wilkim: ok, so a quick google on setuid and setguid should give you an overview and the pro/cons to setting them
[13:50] <Wilkim> thanks! :)
[13:50] <ikonia> Wilkim: then we can move forward from there once you have a little understanding of the basic idea.
[13:50] <Wilkim> thank you
[13:50] <Wilkim> reading as we speak
[13:51] <Hulk> Hey guys. How can I write a script, which finds out which gnome-shell extensions are activated and running?
[13:54] <boichev> what to put in fstab to make an nfs mount available only to root because the destination folder is 600 and when I "mount -a" it makes it 777
[13:54] <Hulk> Has anybody an idea?
[13:55] <ikonia> boichev: file system and share permissions, totally different things
[13:55] <Wilkim> alright, now I understand :) thats neat, never knew linux could do that, loving linux more n more every day
[13:55] <ikonia> Hulk: I'd try to reseearch how to query the extensions first, not much documentation on it
[13:56] <Wilkim> so I would want to do 6770 for folders and 6660 for files? :s
[13:56] <Hulk> ikonia: There seems to be no way than creating an own javascript-library, which I then have to include into each gnome-shell-extension
[13:57] <ikonia> Hulk: I'd hope there is.
[13:57] <StFS> Hi. Where can I see information about what DNS server my ubuntu workstation is using behind the scenes? That is, what dns it got via dhcp?
[13:58] <Hulk> ikonia: Have you a suggestion / idea?
[13:58] <ikonia> Hulk: never really looked at it, so I don't know
[13:58] <StFS> resolv.conf is now just giving me localhost because it uses dnsmasq
[13:58] <Wilkim> ikonia: so I would want to do 6770 for folders and 6660 for files? :s
[14:00] <Somelauw> Segfault_: ok, well that partition isn't really hidden for me, but that's indeed likely
[14:01] <Somelauw> Windows now already takes up 3 partitions
[14:01] <Somelauw> The main one, the recovery one and some logging partition or something
[14:01] <Somelauw> The fourth partition is ubuntu
[14:07] <Wilkim> if I do chown 6775 to an empty folder, create a file in it, it has the group of the file, but not the user, is that how its suppose to be, or did I do it wrong?
[14:09] <CatKiller> Wilkim: !chown
[14:09] <CatKiller> chown is called with user:group
[14:09] <Wilkim> sorry I ment chmod *
[14:09] <CatKiller> you called it with mode values
[14:09] <dupingping> Wilkim:?
[14:10] <CatKiller> ah ok you're talking about the +s right?
[14:10] <CatKiller> sgid
[14:10] <dupingping> sgid?
[14:11] <Wilkim> yea, I have a development box, with www-data setup for nbginx + php, and samba to access the files, when I create a new file, via the IDE, git, or composer, I would prefer it to automtically have www-data user/group
[14:11] <fermat93> 111
[14:12] <CatKiller> Wilkim: Try to change into a user and run "touch <targetfolder>/file"
[14:12] <CatKiller> see if the group is set correctly
[14:13] <CatKiller> maybe what happens is that the sgid works as expected but the file is being chmoded afterwards
[14:14] <Wilkim> the group is created as expected, however the user is still my username, not www-data (or is that normal)?
[14:14] <CatKiller> btw I re-read your question
[14:14] <CatKiller> it works as expected
[14:14] <CatKiller> only sgid is active
[14:14] <CatKiller> setuid doesn't work
[14:14] <CatKiller> for obvious security reasons
[14:14] <CatKiller> otherwise you could have a directory that's setuid root
[14:15] <Wilkim> and its ubuntu-server 13.10 with just php5-fpm. php5-* modules, nginx, git, nothing extra installed
[14:15] <CatKiller> and run escalated privileges files
[14:15] <Wilkim> Can I force suid to work? =/
[14:15] <Wilkim> its an isolated from the net box
[14:15] <eutheria> which text editor can open 400mb text files, vim is struggling
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> eutheria: sublime text probably
[14:16] <slipttees> Feb  4 11:05:27 crede16-ThinkPad-T400 kernel: [ 8788.889531] [TTM] Failed allocating swap storage... please help?
[14:17] <CatKiller> Wilkim: Not that I know of
[14:17] <CatKiller> Wilkim: But surely you can resolve this by setting the group
[14:17] <CatKiller> if the group has the correct access then you should be fine wouldn't you?
[14:17] <Wilkim> yes, the group works, I was just being anal/learning more then needed :)
[14:17] <Wilkim> thank you all for the help
[14:18] <CatKiller> Wilkim: http://www.tuxation.com/setuid-on-shell-scripts.html
[14:18] <CatKiller> Here you have a (bad) example on how to create a program that will allow setuid
[14:18] <CatKiller> but it's just insanity to use it
[14:19] <CatKiller> it was disable for a (very) good reason
[14:19] <CatKiller> *disabled
[14:21] <Wilkim> thank you
[14:21] <Wilkim> really thank! :)
[14:21] <Wilkim> thanks*
[14:21] <dupingping> #ubuntu offtopic is not?
[14:21] <k1l> !ot | dupingping
[14:22] <dupingping> unable to join in it!
[14:22] <ikonia> dupingping: you got banned from there, use #ubuntu-ops if you want to discuss it
[14:22] <dupingping> k1l: really unable!
[14:23] <dupingping> ah~
[14:23] <Wilkim> One other question just for the sake of learning. How can I have a folder, lets say /var/www automatically set specific permissions for files and for folders. like automatically do 770 for directories and 660 for files
[14:23] <CatKiller> Wilkim: no problem!
[14:24] <Wilkim> so like /var/www/vhost-name would get 770, /var/www/vhost-name/html would get 770, /var/www/vhost-name/html/index.php would get 660
[14:25] <CatKiller> Wilkim: Wish there was a way
[14:25] <CatKiller> Wilkim: Not with the default permissions anyways
[14:25] <CatKiller> Wilkim: You should look at this for better permissions handling: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs
[14:25] <geirha> Wilkim: if all the users that create files in there use   umask 007,  that'll be the result.
[14:25] <CatKiller> there are some extended permissions that *might* allow you to do that
[14:25] <Wilkim> I just found that on google, ACL, setfacl
[14:26] <LucidGuy> Anyone find a linux email client that properly supports Exchange 2010?  (no imap support)
[14:26] <Wilkim> thank you! :D
[14:26] <ikonia> LucidGuy: negative
[14:26] <CatKiller> Wilkim: No problem.
[14:26] <asoktheintern> Hey there, I have an odd problem. No applications can find libraries, everything gives "error while loading shared libraries....no such file or directory", it was working up until a few minutes ago. Unfortunately I can't check if the files are there because even sudo fails to run, as it can't find the /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so file. Any ideas? I really don't know what I could have done to cause this. This is a one day old install.
[14:26] <LucidGuy> ikonia, have you run into this issue recently?
[14:27] <ikonia> LucidGuy: last week funny enough
[14:27] <LucidGuy> ikonia, nothing? nothing with EWS support either?
[14:27] <ikonia> evolution can work with ews
[14:28] <LucidGuy> ikonia, that there is a solution..
[14:28] <ikonia> yes, however you said "no imap" you didn't say ews - and to be honest, the support is good
[14:28] <ikonia> has to be exchange 2010 and even then, it's not good
[14:29] <LucidGuy> ews is not imap..
[14:29] <LucidGuy> isnt ews the same as saying OWA?
[14:29] <LucidGuy> Meaning if they have OWA online, ews is available?
[14:30] <potatoe> anyone know any alternatives for cheese?
[14:32] <Wilkim> Hello, I am using sublime text 3 to write a bash script, I use a good amount of tabs in it, when I use nano/vi in ubuntu-server, it shows the tabs are not all aligned, is there anyway to fix this so what I see in sublime is the same in the terminal?
[14:32] <Wilkim> copied n pasted that, didnt mean to say hello lol
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> potatoe  guvcview is somewhat more advanced than cheese
[14:33] <Wilkim> just asked in here in the event anyone had come across this before or had an ideas
[14:33] <potatoe> MonkeyDust i need something that needs no gl drivers
[14:33] <vizgix> sup
[14:34] <vizgix> oh darn, whats the exact channel name for offtopic
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:39] <leoleo11> hello
[14:40] <leoleo11> when i try to install the latest version of warzone i get configure: error: Qt not found - required! where can i get that?
[14:40] <leoleo11>  tried this but mothing happened sudo apt-get install libqt4-core libqt4-gui
[14:40] <leoleo11> any help please?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> leoleo11: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:41] <ikonia> leoleo11: you need the libraries and headers I'm guessing if you are trying to compile the game
[14:41] <leoleo11> exactly
[14:41] <leoleo11> ikonia: im trying to install from a .tar.xz file
[14:41] <Mickada> plop
[14:48] <excognac> hi all how to i reach java things which i have installed as "sudo java -jar whatever.jar" ?
[14:55] <geirha> excognac: That doesn't make much sense...
[14:58] <excognac> geirha: well, i downloaded some crap from government to fill out a taxation form.
[15:03] <pip> hi folks, can I automount a data partition which on the same hard drive as my OS?
[15:03] <pip> fstab or some such?
[15:03] <somsip> !fstab | pip
[15:03] <helmut_> hi
[15:04] <pip> okies, I'll check that out , thanks
[15:09] <luny> hey what's the best remote desktop software if I want to connect from my windows desktop to ubuntu
[15:11] <tomixxx> hi, i have the following set up: an ubuntu server is connected via switch to two nodes. moreover, the server is connected via another network interface to the internet. the "interfaces" file looks as follow: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6873464/ The question now is: How is it possible that the NODES get internet access?
[15:12] <tomixxx> So, eth1 connects my server to the i-net and eth0 connects my-server to the two nodes
[15:12] <Screwba> why doesn't the latest Ubuntu kernel have all MS Hyper-V patches applied?
[15:12] <Screwba> When using CentOS and Debian, my scroll wheel works but in Ubuntu it does not...???
[15:13] <FergusL> Hi, is there a specific channel for ATI drivers in linux ? I'm looking for the most up to date fglrx driver for HD 4000 series and kernel 3.8
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> FergusL: hd 4000 is no longer supported by ati
[15:14] <yoavst> How do you set hebrew as language from the .dmrc?
[15:14] <FergusL> hitsujiTMO: that's what I realised
[15:14] <FergusL> is it all that old ?! come on !
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> FergusL: last ubuntu support is in 12.04 on the precise stack (kernel 3.2)
[15:16] <FergusL> I should go for radeon drivers then
[15:16] <hitsujiTMO> FergusL: would be the best option. there should be huge improvements to the radeondriver in 14.04 too
[15:17] <FergusL> I'm on 13.04 iirc (mint 15)
[15:20] <demophobia> Is it true that with the latest iOS I can say goodbye to using my iPhone 4 with Ubuntu 12.04? http://askubuntu.com/questions/211886/ubuntu-not-recognizing-iphone
[15:20] <demophobia> http://askubuntu.com/questions/211886/ubuntu-not-recognizing-iphone suggests that it is true. I was wondering what your thoughts were.
[15:20] <luny> damn net disconnecting all the time
[15:20] <luny> hey what's the best remote desktop software if I want to connect from my windows desktop to ubuntu
[15:20] <raub> Does anyone know why there is a freeipa package for ubuntu?
[15:20] <sparton> I believe the open Radeon drive provides back support for older chipsets, but cant confirm.  Im running a HD7870
[15:20] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: for now yes
[15:21] <demophobia> are android phones compatible with linux?
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> yes
[15:21] <demophobia> i mean, in terms of supporting free software etc, should i buy android rather than iphone in the future?
[15:21] <sparton> YES
[15:21] <demophobia> Is android likely to make itself windows/mac only if enough switch away from iPhone?
[15:22] <hateball> demophobia: Android runs on a Linux kernel, so...
[15:22] <demophobia> oh, nice.
[15:22] <demophobia> man.
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: android is a linux distro
[15:22] <demophobia> oh wow
[15:22] <demophobia> hehe, nice
[15:22] <leoleo11> hitsujiTMO: not exactly
[15:23] <leoleo11> demophobia: you should definetly get an android
[15:23] <leoleo11> and installl cyabogenmod to it
[15:23] <demophobia> Do linux distributions like to play nice with each other? Or is there competition and designed incompatibility within the linux world? (Is this an -offtopic question?)
[15:23] <TJ-> demophobia: If you want to support Free Software, Cyanogenmod or another community release might be preferable to Android, since Google moved core functionality into the proprietary 'Play Store' framework.
[15:23] <leoleo11> demophobia: but if you want to stay in the guidelines of free software you shouldnt have a cellphone at all
[15:24] <sparton> To each its own, when it comes to Linux distros.  Each one has their own philosophy on how a distro should be presented / organized.  THat doesnt mean they are in competition.
[15:24] <demophobia> erm, really, leoleo11 ? would you please elaborate?
[15:25] <Darkstar1> Hi guys, I want to pipe the output of tail to a file but have it creat the file as opposed to the file existing before command execution. How can I doo this?
[15:25] <SonikkuAmerica> leoleo11: Um, Android is actually FOSS software if you drop the stock Google apps
[15:26] <Darkstar1> e.g. tail -n 100 <filename> | file.txt
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> Darkstar1: > instead of |
[15:26] <SonikkuAmerica> leoleo11: It's officially called AOSP (the Android Open Source Project)
[15:26] <Darkstar1> hitsujiTMO: cheers
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> Darkstar1: or >> if you want to append
[15:27] <SonikkuAmerica> leoleo11: In fact, the official Android support channel is - guess where? - right here on Freenode. #android ...
[15:27] <SonikkuAmerica> But I'm getting !ot just defending this position so I'll stop
[15:28] <SonikkuAmerica> TJ-: There is also Android-x86 for 32-bit computing
[15:29] <TJ-> SonikkuAmerica: Not quite; Although the frameworks are FOSS, all current devices require proprietary binary blobs to drive the GPUs, and the radio modem side is proprietary too.
[15:29] <linuxearth> what we were doing if internet were not there......!
[15:29] <hezi> hello im having an issue with chrome on my ubuntu 12.04 64bit, is this the right place to ask???, thanks
[15:30] <SonikkuAmerica> TJ-: Correct, but those are supplied by the OEMs.
[15:30] <hitsujiTMO> hezi: whats the issue and we'll tell you
[15:30] <hezi> from time to time my system gets frozzen, an my only solution is to restart
[15:31] <hezi> when i look at watchdog i see segmentatio on chrome
[15:31] <linuxearth> hezi: reinstall distro
[15:31] <hitsujiTMO> hezi: are you doing anything in particular with chrome?
[15:31] <hitsujiTMO> !behelpful | linuxearth
[15:32] <hezi> normally when i scroll, happends a lot in g+ or youtube
[15:32] <linuxearth> hitsujiTMO: i did that when it happened with me
[15:32] <linuxearth> hezi: reinstall chrome, i meant
[15:32] <hitsujiTMO> linuxearth: thats different to reinstalling the distro :P
[15:32] <hezi> linuxearth: it this a know issue??
[15:33] <linuxearth> hezi: it happened with me too
[15:33] <linuxearth> i reinstalled chrome, that's all
[15:33] <linuxearth> hitsujiTMO: that was wrongly typed dude
[15:33] <hezi> linuxearth: thank you i will try that
[15:33] <hitsujiTMO> hezi: when was the last crash? was it just before your current session?
[15:33] <linuxearth> hezi: but be careful to completely uninstall it
[15:33] <linuxearth> even from .config
[15:34] <linuxearth> there should not be any trace
[15:34] <hezi> linuxearth: i will make an apt purge,
[15:34] <linuxearth> ;)-
[15:34] <linuxearth> yes
[15:34] <linuxearth> then restart the pc and then install chrom
[15:34] <linuxearth> back
[15:34] <Xuisce1> hi linuxearth
[15:35] <linuxearth> hiXuisce1
[15:35] <linuxearth> how are you?
[15:35] <Xuisce1> im good
[15:35] <linuxearth> fine here
[15:36] <Hybrid1> Hi
[15:36] <Hybrid1> anyone already used lightdm-remote-session-freerdp ?
[15:37] <Hybrid1> I's like to build a POC for Thin Client setup (no, not LTSP based), I found this and it looks like it could do the trick but I don't know how to set it up
[15:37] <Hybrid1> I'd like to boot to LightDM and select a remote session that will login directly with FreeRDP
[15:38] <Hybrid1> I'd like to do this without UCCS
[15:38] <Hybrid1> any idea ?
[15:38] <MikeTison> Can someone explain why the command result=`cat test.txt | tr ', ' '\n'` doesn't print newlines when I do "echo -e $result" ?
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> MikeTison  #bash would be a better place to ask, i guess
[15:40] <hitsujiTMO> MikeTison: because single quotes produce literal strings. use double quotes if you want to include escape chars
[15:44] <glitsj16> keyboard behaves wonky: up and down arrows aren't working (so no history browsing), right and left don't move the cursor, and in general keys are unresponsive (need to hit them twice to type a char) .. happens in all tty's, so login is at best a shot in the dark .. this is actually going on for quite a while, i think since maverick, but only recently did i start to look at it with those 'would be nice to fix' eyes .. open to all suggestions (altho
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> glitsj16  sure you don't need a new keyboard?
[15:46] <hitsujiTMO> glitsj16: behaving wonky in other distros/OSs too?
[15:46] <glitsj16> MonkeyDust: hitsujiTMO: this happens solely in tty's, in X everything bliss
[15:47] <glitsj16> haven't really checked in other OS actually, i'll do that
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> glitsj16: anything being spat to syslog about it?
[15:47] <glitsj16> only reference i've been able to find on the net is an arch linux thread dating back to 2010 (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=100000), very similar symptoms and a fix thru editing /etc/inittab which i believe ubuntu doesn't even have or use
[15:48] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: negative, no trace
[15:48] <glitsj16> it works, but very slow and unresponsive
[15:49] <stefan_1> ello
[15:50] <Xuisce1> hi
[15:50] <glitsj16> the only relevant udev rule i can see is /lib/udev/rules.d/75-tty-description.rules but i never changed a udev rule on this machine nor would i know what to look for actually :)
[15:51] <TJ-> glitsj16: Have you got an alternative input method selected, such as ibus?
[15:51] <Screwba> MikeTison:  tr is a trimmer and since you are removing \n, it will not be there
[15:51] <glitsj16> TJ-: no, i've actually installed ibus again to see if it would make a difference, zip
[15:52] <Screwba> MikeTison:  also, you should use result="$()" and not use ``
[15:52] <glitsj16> TJ-: i also regenerated those /var/lib/xkb/ compiled keymaps but this isn't happening in X so i'm not even sure why i did that
[15:53] <Xuisce1> hi glitsj16
[15:53] <Xuisce1> TJ-:
[15:53] <glitsj16> Xuisce1: hello :)
[15:53] <runelind> is there a utility that checks installed packages for vulnerabilities against an online database and provides reports on them?
[15:54] <TJ-> glitsj16: I assume you've reconfigured console-setup, just in case?
[15:54] <Xuisce1> !test
[15:54] <Xuisce1> hm
[15:54] <TJ-> glitsj16: what does "stty -a" report?
[15:54] <glitsj16> TJ-: yes, several times
[15:56] <p0wn3d> runelind: I think nessus will do that
[15:56] <bhavesh> I just installed wm2 window manager on Ubuntu 13.10 from USC. How am I supposed to boot into it and get back to normal desktop? There's no wm2 option in login screen.
[15:56] <runelind> p0wn3d: I was thinking something more ubuntu specific.
[15:56] <TJ-> glitsj16: This is the output of "stty -a" from tty1 on mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6873700/
[15:57] <p0wn3d> You would probably just want to search your version of ubuntu with one of the databases of vulnerablities on the net
[15:57] <Widadcharai> hello everyone
[15:57] <hitsujiTMO> runelind: there's pci compliance scanners, but they aint cheap
[15:57] <glitsj16> TJ-: http://slexy.org/view/s21dPXpclw .. thanks, i'll compare
[15:58] <runelind> p0wn3d: looks like maybe debsecan will do it.
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> backtrack (not supported here) is developped for intrusion scanning, IIRC
[15:59] <TJ-> glitsj16: 'diff' doesn't show any differences aside from console resolution
[16:00] <TJ-> glitsj16: Is it a PS/2 or USB keyboard?
[16:01] <steviedon> runelind: Have a look at lynis its a security and system auditing tool
[16:01] <glitsj16> TJ-: PS/2 .. only diff i see with yours is the # of rows and columns
[16:01] <Bombo> how do i prevent the nvidia kernel module from getting loaded at boot time? (ubuntu) i added blackline nvidia into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but it still gets loaded
[16:01] <TJ-> glitsj16: how about "grep i8042 /var/log/dmesg"  ?
[16:02] <glitsj16> TJ-: i'll get that to you in a minute, takes ages to type lol
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Bombo: add the boot option:   nvidia.blacklist=1
[16:03] <glitsj16> TJ-: http://slexy.org/view/s20EM0riq6
[16:04] <Bombo> 2. how does the watchdog work? i see watchdog/1 taking 90-100% cpu, leading to extreme lag when executing  programs (bash/ssh)
[16:04] <TJ-> glitsj16: From X:  "echo -e '#!/bin/bash\ngrep i8042 /var/log/dmsg >/tmp/grep.log' >~/R && chmod a+x ~/R" .... then Ctrl+Alt+F1 then "R <Enter>" and switch back to X :)
[16:04] <Bombo> ActionParsnip: ok thx i'll try
[16:07] <Bombo> editor won't start, apt-get too, bash, htop works...
[16:07] <Bombo> how do i find out what causes watchdog to use 100% cpu?
[16:08] <TJ-> glitsj16: Try adding to the kernel command-line "i8042.nomux=1 i8042.reset"
[16:09] <Bombo> is there a way to stop watchdog?
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> Bombo  try pkill watchdog*
[16:12] <glitsj16> TJ-: trying that now, had to install R .. thanks for the suggestions, i'll report back, appreciated :)
[16:14] <TJ-> glitsj16: "R" was meant to the be script created from X ... I should have typed "~/R <Enter>" to run it from the current directory!
[16:15] <van77> wow. i've just installed Ubuntu font to Windows and configured putty. Looks great )
[16:20] <glitsj16> TJ-: if i had a hat, i'd tip it to you and your vast knowledge of all things machine-like .. it just flew into overdrive :p
[16:21] <dukeNubem> Hi, everyone. New to Ubuntu. Encountered a problem.
[16:21] <glitsj16> TJ-: owe you one, very much appreciate the help .. i flipped thru my tty history a few times out of pure nostalgia
[16:22] <TJ-> glitsj16: kernel was mis-detecting a multiplexing i8042 - it showed 4 AUX ports, with only 1 pointer device actually attached
[16:23] <hitsujiTMO> !details | dukeNubem
[16:23] <glitsj16> TJ-: when you put it like that it makes sense .. strange that i couldn't track it in syslog, or are such things not logged there?
[16:23] <dukeNubem> I can't enter super user more and there is an error message, when I want to use apt-get
[16:23] <dukeNubem> m@m-EP43-UD3L:~$ apt-get update
[16:23] <dukeNubem> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[16:23] <dukeNubem> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[16:23] <dukeNubem> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[16:23] <dukeNubem> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[16:24] <Pici> dukeNubem: Please use a pastebit.
[16:24] <Pici> er, bin.
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> dukeNubem: sudo apt-get update
[16:24] <dukeNubem> How do i  use a pastebin?
[16:25] <OerHeks> !aptlock
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> !pastebin | dukeNubem
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> dukeNubem: for any commands that require super user, you prepend sudo to it. this will run that command as the super user for the duration of the command
[16:25] <OerHeks> dukeNubem, if you cant enable superuser/sudo, then you cannot update
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> dukeNubem: so the correct command is: sudo apt-get update
[16:26] <dukeNubem> It didn't solve the problem.
[16:26] <glitsj16> TJ-: do i add the "i8042.nomux=1 i8042.reset" permanently?
[16:26] <invapid>  build()...
[16:26] <invapid> checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
[16:26] <invapid> checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
[16:26] <invapid> checking target system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
[16:26] <invapid> checking for gcc... gcc -m32
[16:26] <invapid> checking for C compiler default output file name...
[16:26] <Pici> !paste | invapid
[16:26] <TJ-> glitsj16: Yes, to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX in /etc/default/grub
[16:27] <dukeNubem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6873853/
[16:27] <glitsj16> TJ-: okay, thanks again .. i guess that makes a nice print on a t-shirt too
[16:27] <invapid> dukeNubem: ps -ef | grep python
[16:28] <invapid> dukeNubem: is another instance of apt running?
[16:28] <dukeNubem> I don't think so. I just booted up. How do I check?
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> dukeNubem: looks like something else is using the lock. do you have software center open? or update manager?
[16:28] <TJ-> glitsj16: and of course, follow up with "sudo update-grub"
[16:29] <glitsj16> TJ-: yes i already did that, all good
[16:29] <dukeNubem> TMO. No, but I encountered a problem with software center a while back. It would close automatically.
[16:30] <Lunar_Lamp> wu/win 30
[16:31] <dukeNubem> invapid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6873861/
[16:32] <dukeNubem> That happened when I tried to add some repositories.
[16:32] <invapid> dukeNubem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/how-do-i-fix-a-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock-problem maybe
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> dukeNubem: can you pastebin the output of: sudo lsof /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[16:33] <invapid> ^^
[16:34] <dukeNubem> TMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6873873/
[16:36] <hitsujiTMO> dukeNubem: follow invapid's link. seems whatever caused the issue may not be running
[16:36] <dukeNubem> Thank you both guys. See you around.
[16:38] <dukeNubem> Problem solve with http://paste.ubuntu.com/6873892/
[16:39] <dukeNubem> Thank you so much.
[16:40] <microsoft_> any good channels?
[16:42] <SamuraiDio> Hi
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> !alis | microsoft_
[16:42] <microsoft_> what?
[16:43] <microsoft_> I need to change my nick?
[16:43] <microsoft_> where can I see channels list?
[16:43] <SamuraiDio> how can I add a user on my computer, that is the same user (same id and groupid) that a user from another computer (which I mount nfs folders from)?
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> microsoft_: read the response from the bot
[16:44] <microsoft_> how can I list by popularity ?
[16:45] <microsoft_> this us ubuntu channel? where Am I?>
[16:46] <Pici> microsoft_: yes.
[16:46] <hitsujiTMO> SamuraiDio: there's many options. ldap, sync-accounts or manually creating accounts with the specific necessary uid/guid
[16:47] <microsoft_> this is so difficult
[16:47] <SonikkuAmerica> microsoft_: What's so difficult? Pray tell.
[16:48] <SamuraiDio> hitsujiTMO, how is the last optin?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> microsoft_: why do you want popular channels?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> microsoft_: he channels are created based on subject
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> microsoft_: so, join the channel for your issue
[16:48] <stefan_1> hai guise
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> microsoft_: think about what a channel is....
[16:48] <microsoft_> I found what i've looking for
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> microsoft_: why do you want the most popular channel? What is the most popular is #bsd   how is that of any value to you?
[16:49] <microsoft_> I found channel list thing
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> SamuraiDio: wuth the adduser/useradd commands you can specify uids and guids
[16:49] <Xuisce1> hi microsoft_
[16:49] <microsoft_> because i don't want to join empty channel with no people
[16:49] <Xuisce1> .query microsoft_
[16:49] <Xuisce1> awk
[16:49] <Xuisce1> sorry on webchat
[16:49] <Xuisce1> looking for another user
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> microsoft_: but the channel is discussing a subject, so join the channel for what you want to chat about
[16:50] <Xuisce1> whats a good IRC client ActionParsnip  ?
[16:50] <Xuisce1> webchat is bad for typing
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> Xuisce1: for me, pidgin and irssi
[16:50] <Xuisce1> ah
[16:50] <microsoft_> this is help channel or what?
[16:50] <microsoft_> what's going here?
[16:50] <Xuisce1> yes microsoft_
[16:50] <ikonia> microsoft_: help for ubuntu only
[16:50] <SamuraiDio> hitsujiTMO,
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> microsoft_: whatever you want support on
[16:50] <SamuraiDio> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[16:51] <zerowaitstate> how do you resize a root partition from a live cd? I booted a server using ubuntu 13.10 rescue mode off the cd and got to a livecd without /dev/sda5 mounted. However, when I try to run e2fsck or resize2fs on /dev/sda5, the tools say the device is in use. It is not mounted, so I am not sure what else I need to do to be able to alter the filesystem on that device
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> microsoft_: eg. Windows support is in ##windows
[16:51] <microsoft_> cool stuff, so many active folks on this network
[16:51] <microsoft_> nah, im looking for unix support
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> microsoft_: its possibly the oldest irc network on the planet
[16:51] <microsoft_> no m$ B$
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> microsoft_: then try #unix
[16:51] <ice92> how to test dnscrypt if it's really working,  I'm monitoring port 53 using tcpdump but I can see the dns queries
[16:51] <ikonia> ##unix
[16:52] <microsoft_> ok thanks, im going to the python channel
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> microsoft_: so why would you want the most popular channel (#bsd for example) when you ant python support?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> microsoft_: can you see how ridiculous it is?
[16:53] <Pici> Lets move on.
[16:53] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: let him go
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> i'm gone
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> :)
[16:54] <microsoft_> im just messing around, trying to find out how things are working here
[16:54] <microsoft_> I joined this irc first time
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> microsoft_  your nick is offensive and disturbing, please change it
[16:55] <microsoft_> okey sir, how do i do it?
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> microsoft_  type /nick blah
[16:56] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: there is nothing wrong with his nickname, please don't be pathetic towards people.
[17:00] <user3213> i get yagi-yuda antena, but it not seems like directional antena? do i need to set some config to use it as directional antena ?
[17:00] <user3213> i get yagi-yuda antena, but it not seems like working as directional antena? do i need to set some config to use it as directional antena ?
[17:04] <schone> hello
[17:04] <Xuisce1> hi schone
[17:04] <schone> I'm trying to attach an EBS volume on ec2 and i use device-id /dev/sdf1 and for some reason ubuntu precise isn't showing up as /dev/xvdf1
[17:04] <schone> it doesn't show up as anything
[17:04] <schone> nothing happens
[17:05] <TJ-> user3213: No; aim the Yagi in the direction you want the transmitted signal to be strongest, and ensure you've got the correct polarity
[17:06] <user3213> i try, but i see the same networks like with the omnidirectional antena
[17:07] <user3213> i buy from dealextream
[17:07] <user3213> maybe it has some defects ...
[17:08] <raznik> it has some defects, I believe.
[17:08] <Pici> What does this have to do with Ubuntu?
[17:08] <raznik> usually, the problem with dealextream is that it's quite outdated.
[17:08] <raznik> please shut up, Pici. it is related with Ubuntu.
[17:08] <raznik> user3213: try out dealxi
[17:08] <Pici> raznik: In what way?
[17:08] <raznik> Pici: you'll find out soon.
[17:08] <raznik> Pici: do you know what dealextream is?
[17:08] <nipitiri> How to resolve this problem? http://gyazo.com/87ff81497297228b589fe6a7f61035f7
[17:09] <nipitiri> cant nothing to install no Kwrite no Kate nothing
[17:10] <Pici> raznik: It looks like a website for buying things on the cheap.  Which has nothing to do with  Ubuntu support.
[17:10] <Pici> !offtopic
[17:10] <raznik> Pici: my mistake.
[17:11] <raznik> Pici: you are now allowed to warn users.
[17:11] <microsoft> can I ask questions here about xubuntu or I need to join different channel?
[17:11] <raznik> Pici: do not abuse my power given to you.
[17:11] <Pici> microsoft: You can ask here, but there is also #xubuntu which might be able to help you better.
[17:11] <ikonia> microsoft: all good
[17:11] <right-clicker> I need help with crontab. I created a textfile with crontab settings, and ran crontab crontab.txt. Now when I type crontab -l the output displays my crontab configuration. This used to work, but now it doesnt work anymore.. what can be the problem?
[17:12] <raznik> ikonia: does using the nickname 'microsoft' offend you?
[17:12] <ikonia> raznik: no, not at all
[17:12] <microsoft> I did recently fresh install and something system hangs during boot up
[17:12] <raznik> because, an operator in here told me once that windows-related nicknames would be banned.
[17:12] <raznik> erry told me this, I think.
[17:12] <ikonia> raznik: no they didn't and that is nothing to do with this channel
[17:12] <raznik> 'offensive' nicknames.
[17:12] <ikonia> raznik: if you need ubuntu help, please ask, if not, please be quiet
[17:12] <raznik> like 'mohammad' or 'god'
[17:12] <raznik> ikonia: you are now offending me.
[17:12] <ice9> how to test dnscrypt if it's really working
[17:13] <microsoft> I didn't choose this nick name
[17:13] <microsoft> it came by default
[17:13] <ikonia> microsoft: don't worry about your nickname, lets try to look at your issue
[17:14] <ikonia> microsoft: what's the problem, try to explain it to the channel
[17:14] <schone> basically it seems that my ebs is stuck in "attaching" device
[17:14] <schone> and it only happens to that letter
[17:14] <microsoft> This is not the chat?
[17:14] <ikonia> microsoft: this is the ubuntu support chat where we can help you with ubuntu as you've been explained before
[17:14] <SonikkuAmerica> microsoft: The GENERAL chat area is in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[17:14] <microsoft> So what can cause this hang during boot up?
[17:15] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | microsoft
[17:15] <ikonia> microsoft: what hang ?
[17:15] <ikonia> microsoft: explain what's happening
[17:16] <microsoft> I updated my recently installed xubuntu version 13.04 and it asked for restart i pressed that button and then black screen show up which never disappeared
[17:17] <microsoft> also my pc freezes with many other distros for some reasons, like linux mint, lubuntu, etc
[17:17] <microsoft> it works well with ubuntu, fedora
[17:17] <microsoft> Could that be hardware issue?
[17:18] <ikonia> microsoft: possible but not certain
[17:18] <SonikkuAmerica> microsoft: Wait... it freezes with Lubuntu, but works with Ubuntu (Unity)?
[17:18] <SonikkuAmerica> microsoft: That sounds a bit fishy, no offense
[17:18] <microsoft> yes
[17:18] <zerowaitstate> I am trying to shrink a PV in lvm, but I cannot due to a swap LV occupying physical extents at the end of the PV. How do I move the physical extents within a PE so I can finishing shrinking the physical volume?
[17:19] <moza> Hello.
[17:19] <ikonia> zerowaitstate: you need to remove the data out of the VG using it, or make sure your other PE's have the capacity for all the data without the PV you want to remove
[17:19] <microsoft> Works well with ubuntu 14.04, not sure about older ones, but doesn't with lubuntu 13.04 or what version it is(latest)
[17:20] <microsoft> I switch to xubuntu because I couldn't install vmware on latest linux kernel which comes with ubuntu 14.04 i guess
[17:22] <soulfly> Hi
[17:22] <mihok> Trying to install supervisord onto a ubuntu 12.04 server through apt-get, installs fine, but for some reason the `service` cmd doesnt recognize that the service is running, even though `ps aux` reveals it is running... is there a way to fix this?
[17:22] <boysean> I have this problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/6874090/ can some1 help me?
[17:23] <erry> hmm?
[17:23] <mihok> Running `sudo service supervisor start` says there is an error, but it starts a process and the supervisord.log file suggests its running just fine
[17:23] <Pici> erry: nothing important.
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> microsoft: 13.04 is EOL and 14.04 is not supported here til release day. #ubuntu+1 for support for Trusty
[17:28] <BuJitsuBrown> is there a way to useterminal to evaluate if my ubuntu has expireancedan internal error?
[17:28] <madorn_> helo
[17:29] <whoever> can i check drive health with out a partition on the drive
[17:29] <andybrine> Afternoon people :)
[17:29] <whoever> andybrine: morning
[17:30] <andybrine> A quick question, I am having a few niggling difficulties with my keyboard
[17:30] <whoever> andybrine: ok shoot
[17:30] <Xuisce1> hi all
[17:30] <Xuisce1> whoever: hi
[17:30] <BuJitsuBrown> is there a way to useterminal to evaluate if my ubuntu has expireancedan internal error?
[17:30] <whoever> hi Xuisce1
[17:31] <andybrine> I have a UK keyboard and the characters change onece and a while
[17:31] <andybrine> say I input an @at symbol and it inserts a "
[17:31] <andybrine> or vice versa
[17:31] <shahhena95> how do I install KDE?
[17:31] <whoever> BuJitsuBrown: you can use top, om just use system monitor in gui
[17:32] <andybrine> I go and select the keyboad and all is working well, then after a few hours or so it goes back to the wrong inputs
[17:32] <whoever> andybrine: you to setting >keyboard > layout, and tell me how many layouts are listed
[17:33] <whoever> andybrine: so how many layouts are listed
[17:33] <OerHeks> shahhena95, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:33] <andybrine> sorry just checking
[17:33] <andybrine> at the top on my notification bar I only have 1
[17:34] <whoever> andybrine: yes but under setting > keyboard, keyboard layout
[17:34] <whoever> andybrine: is use the same layout for all windows checked
[17:34] <madorn> why is life a dream
[17:35] <andybrine> When I go to Settings > Keyboard, there is no keyboard layout
[17:35] <andybrine> there is typing and shortcuts
[17:35] <whoever> andybrine: try setting it to your layout
[17:35] <whoever> then see how that goes
[17:36] <andybrine> ok, I have it here and only have 1 keyboard layout
[17:36] <whoever> andybrine: the problem your describing i have experienced it with windows but not linux
[17:36] <whoever> andybrine: ok, are you on 13.x
[17:36] <andybrine> yeah im on 13.10
[17:37] <NictraSavios> Does Ubuntu impose a limit on the number of monitors you can have?
[17:37] <andybrine> its a real pain in the ass when it keeps changing and has the worng layout
[17:37] <andybrine> pardon my language, lol
[17:38] <whoever> andybrine: i would logout and back in or maybe even do a restart , 13.x had some weird fix applied before the release that that was the only way i could get custom keyboard stort cuts to appply, so thinking it may apply to layouts
[17:38] <andybrine> I have been using 13.10 since the release date
[17:38] <andybrine> is that a recent update?
[17:39] <whoever> andybrine: no i just dicoverd it with custom set keyboard shortcuts
[17:39] <andybrine> ok thanks
[17:39] <whoever> but i am wondering if the issue could extend to keymaps
[17:40] <andybrine> I will give it a shot then
[17:40] <andybrine> yeah, maybe
[17:40] <logicicrchelp11> off topic but does anyone here know logic circuits
[17:40] <andybrine> what keyboard would you recomend? There are many for UK keyboard layout
[17:41] <Xuisce1> logicicrchelp11: go to #hardware
[17:41] <Xuisce1> :)
[17:41] <Xuisce1> or #electronics
[17:41] <francisquare> may i know what the difference between a link created via ln command with the windows shortcut link?
[17:41] <francisquare> are they the same?
[17:41] <logicicrchelp11> Xuisce1: i did :( lol
[17:41] <Xuisce1> oh
[17:42] <andybrine> thanks whoever, I will give it a go and let you know
[17:43] <BuJitsuBrown> whoever: thank you for you help but it seems i just dont know enogh to ask my questio yet.
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> francisquare  with the GUUI, it's a symbolic link you create, like ln -s
[17:45] <nsousa> hello, I have a problema with a ati, after the last update to ubuntu, the screen is black after boot up
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> francisquare  ln (without -s) is a hard link
[17:45] <nsousa> the system is running, but the screen light does not turn on
[17:45] <nsousa> can you help me please?
[17:46] <francisquare> MonkeyDust, thx
[17:47] <andybrine> I personally have had nothing but trouble with the latest release 13.10, I loved 13.04 but seems the latest release has been buggy
[17:48] <andybrine> just done a reboot whoever and it seems ok for now but will have to give it time to be honest
[17:49] <shahhena95> thank you OerHeks :)
[17:51] <andybrine> actually when I try to insert the pound sign it adds a hash symbol
[17:52] <nispr0> how do I delete a MD device in the linux installasion? gets error that the software device may be in use
[17:52] <nispr0> nvm
[17:54] <BuJitsuBrown> hello, what would be my internal error reporting program .?     i am using U 12.04 Kernel Linux 3.8.0-35-generic
[17:54] <JediMaster> Hi guys, I'm in the process of upgrading a tonne of ubuntu servers, and one is causing a problem. It's on 13.04 and I want to upgrade to 13.10 but do-release-upgrade says "No new release found". I've "apt-get --purge remove update-manager-core" then reinstalled it but still no luck, /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades shows "Prompt=normal". Any ideas how I start the upgrade?
[17:55] <francisquare> JediMaster, check it with ubuntu software center
[17:55] <JediMaster> francisquare, this is ubuntu server, so no GUI
[17:56] <francisquare> select server united stated from Download from?
[17:56] <francisquare> you would need to change server
[17:56] <Blueink_> !ops
[17:56] <JediMaster> no, it's on the gb archive
[17:56] <francisquare> then update at terminal if you like
[17:56] <JediMaster> francisquare, same server the other 15 servers that are upgrading fine are using
[17:57] <BuJitsuBrown> hello, what would be my internal error reporting program .?     i am using U 12.04 Kernel Linux 3.8.0-35-generic
[17:57] <francisquare> same happen here but when i change the server where to download, i get the updates
[17:57] <b1001> Hi guys..I have a laptop that supports upto 3200x1800.. Why is 2560x1600 or 2560x1440 not available? it goes directly from 2048x1536 to 3200.
[17:58] <compdoc> just lucky, I guess
[17:59] <BuJitsuBrown> hello, what would be my internal error reporting program .?     i am using U 12.04 Kernel Linux 3.8.0-35-generic
[17:59] <monika__> Witam
[17:59] <monika__> Mam maly problem z ubuntu
[17:59] <whoever> hi all, what is the name of ubuntu software center , i am tring to repin it to launch pad
[18:00] <luka0000> Hello. for some time the fan of my laptop is very fast and hot. I have 12.04. What it can be?
[18:00] <monika__> Jest ktos kto mowi po Polend
[18:00] <monika__> ??
[18:00] <monika__> :P
[18:01] <microsoft> poland?
[18:01] <monika__> yes
[18:01] <fatjon> hi when i start the compute, it take some time and at the and show me "Give up waiting to root the device". i have instal ubuntu 13,10 on e hp pavilion dv6500
[18:01] <francisquare> it's ubuntu software center
[18:01] <SonikkuAmerica> !pl | monika__
[18:01] <francisquare> whoever,
[18:01] <boysean> 0-59 * * * * echo "hejhej" >> /home/boysean/apa/apple.txt
[18:01] <whoever> francisquare: yes
[18:01] <boysean> doesnt work..
[18:01] <francisquare> may be not installed
[18:02] <francisquare> try dpkg --get-selections | grep software
[18:02] <francisquare> to see if it installed
[18:03] <whoever> francisquare: it was there yesterday, also now when i try apt-get  dist-upgrade i get error broken pipe fail, also when i try to update via software center it just fails
[18:03] <zykotick9> francisquare: i juse the much shorter "dpkg -l | grep foo"
[18:03] <francisquare> zykotick9, correct
[18:03] <francisquare> lol
[18:04] <BuJitsuBrown> hello, what would be my internal error reporting program .?     i am using U 12.04 Kernel Linux 3.8.0-35-generic
[18:04] <francisquare> boysean, are you trying to run a task?
[18:05] <morpheus07> Hi guys i am using a HP Pavillion laptop originally having windows8, dual booted with ubuntu 13.04 since the last month. Since then i have been observing that battery life is noticeably short in ubuntu compared to windows and a lot of heat is also being generated. Is there a solution ? I googled but those solutions didnt work..
[18:05] <fatjon> hi when i start the computer, it take some time and at the and show me "Give up waiting to root the device". i have instal ubuntu 13,10 on a hp pavilion dv6500
[18:05] <JediMaster> I'm trying to do a do-release upgrade on a 13.04 install, and I'm getting "No new release found" any ideas?
[18:05] <JediMaster> this is a server, so no X
[18:05] <francisquare> morpheus07, try adjust or do some power management
[18:06] <BuJitsuBrown> hello, what would be my internal error reporting program .?     i am using U 12.04 Kernel Linux 3.8.0-35-generic
[18:06] <morpheus07> i did but still facing this problem . I also minimised the processor usage to 20%. Yet the problem persists.
[18:06] <zykotick9> JediMaster: 13.04 is EOL, see "/msg ubottu eol"
[18:07] <JediMaster>  zykotick9 did you read my question? =)
[18:07] <zykotick9> JediMaster: you need to do some special steps, because it's EOL
[18:08] <Guest50706> hi, ive got ubuntu running as a guest. i can ssh from the guest to the host but i cannot from the host to the guest. i've tried this: http://wiredrevolution.com/virtualbox/setup-ssh-access-between-virtualbox-host-and-guest-vms
[18:08] <JediMaster> zykotick9, why does do-release-upgrade work on 15 other ubuntu servers running 13.04?
[18:08] <k1l_> JediMaster: please show the whole output in a pastebin
[18:09] <zykotick9> JediMaster: i have no clue.  best of luck.
[18:09] <JediMaster> k1l_, seems a bit overkill, but sure
[18:09] <gregf_> theres an ssh server running on the guese vm as well :/
[18:09] <gregf_> *guest
[18:09] <BuJitsuBrown> hello, what would be my internal error reporting program .?
[18:11] <michagogo|cloud> If I'm looking at a drive with an Ubuntu installation on it
[18:11] <BuJitsuBrown> 22
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> gregf_: in what way can you not ssh to the guest?
[18:11] <JediMaster> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/z1jMCqbg
[18:12] <michagogo|cloud> Is there a way to find out what packages are installed in the Ubuntu system?
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> michagogo|cloud: dpkg --get-selections
[18:12] <k1l_> michagogo|cloud: "dpkg -l"
[18:12] <BuJitsuBrown> hello, what would be my internal error reporting program ?
[18:12] <michagogo|cloud> hitsujiTMO: Sorry, I meant without booting into the syatem
[18:12] <michagogo|cloud> system*
[18:12] <k1l_> michagogo|cloud: a another drive. then chroot into it first
[18:13] <michagogo|cloud> Is there a way to do it from Windows?
[18:13] <k1l_> JediMaster: dont do -d
[18:13] <BuJitsuBrown> la put a vrega eso no vale la pena
[18:13] <francisquare> michagogo|cloud, no
[18:13] <JediMaster> k1l_, same thing without -d
[18:13] <gregf_> hitsujiTMO: i've installed ssh on the guese vm
[18:13] <k1l_> JediMaster: that is for development releases.
[18:13] <michagogo|cloud> Okay. How do I do what k1l_ suggested?
[18:14] <BuJitsuBrown> hello, what would be my internal error reporting program ?
[18:14] <JediMaster> k1l_, yeah, I use is as a shortcut when upgrading from LTS =)
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> gregf_: ok, but where exactly are you getting stuck? or is it that you don't know what to do?
[18:14] <k1l_> JediMaster: check the mirror you are using with apt-get. maybe you need to run the main servers if that mirror is outdated somehow
[18:14] <k1l_> JediMaster: that is a bad idea, too
[18:14] <michagogo|cloud> !chroot
[18:14] <linuxearth> is it true that command line has more power than gui in linux?
[18:14] <gregf_> hitsujiTMO: on the guest vm i ran ifconfig eth1, and i got the ip address. now from the host machine if i do ssh <username>@<guest_vm_ipaddress> i get an error: ssh: connect to host 192.168.56.101 port 22: No route to host
[18:14] <k1l_> JediMaster: just get your release-prompt right and dont use bad workarounds
[18:14] <JediMaster> k1l_, it's the main gb.archive mirror, it's fine on the other 15 servers that are using the same mirror
[18:14] <linuxearth> is it true that command line has more power than gui in linux?
[18:15] <k1l_> JediMaster: you got PPAs on that machine?
[18:15] <JediMaster> k1l_, let me check
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> gregf_: from the host os can you pastebin the output of: ifconfig
[18:15] <gregf_> hitsujiTMO:192.168.56.101 is the guest vm ip address and the user exists(on the guest vm)
[18:15] <JediMaster> k1l_, no just gb.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com
[18:16] <k1l_> JediMaster: please show a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" in a pastebin
[18:16] <gregf_> hitsujiTMO:sure
[18:16] <BuJitsuBrown> linuxearth: hope you get an answer ivbe asking the same  on for 5 or ten min
[18:16] <michagogo|cloud> k1l_: How do I do that? (chroot into it)
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> michagogo|cloud: you can't chroot from windows
[18:17] <JediMaster> k1l_, it's empty
[18:17] <michagogo|cloud> hitsujiTMO: I know
[18:17] <michagogo|cloud> I'm attaching the drive to an Ubuntu VM
[18:17] <gregf_> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6874359/
[18:18] <gregf_> i've got php running as well on the guest vm and some entries in /etc/host to resolve ip to an alias(localhost to test_app)
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> gregf_:  192.168.56.101  is the ip of the host not the guest
[18:18] <JediMaster> k1l_, it's really weird, this server should have a pretty similar config to all the others that are working fine
[18:18] <gregf_> hitsujiTMO: nope :/. its the guest vm ip address
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> gregf_: no, you just ran ifconfig from the host right?
[18:19] <gregf_> hitsujiTMO:from the host i use ssh <user>@hitsujiTMO
[18:19] <gregf_> ah - no, sorry
[18:19] <gregf_> one sec
[18:20] <gregf_> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6874370/
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> gregf_: what virtualisation software are you using?
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> gregf_: its not creating a virtual interface on the host so it cant route traffic to it
[18:22] <gregf_> hitsujiTMO: i've installed a package for that
[18:22] <gregf_> hitsujiTMO: oh,  ok
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> gregf_: you could change the networking type to bridge and that should work then
[18:23] <gregf_> hitsujiTMO: ok, please if you could tell me where :)
[18:24] <gregf_> hitsujiTMO: as in shutdown the VM and change the network tab?
[18:24] <hitsujiTMO> gregf_: depends on the virtualisation software that you're using. should be in the network interface options somewhere. change it from NAT to Bridged
[18:24] <gregf_> hitsujiTMO: it was NAT and then as per the link i pasted above i added another network interface
[18:25] <gregf_> hitsujiTMO: let me change that
[18:25] <lickalott> Gents, can someone explain this to me...   I have a 750GB drive.  I've gparted it and once formatted it shows 698.06 available.  I fdisk it and mkfs.ext2.  When I mount it df -h shows 688 total, 198M used and 653G available.
[18:25] <ezrhino> Update manager still launches and runs when i boot into Ubuntu, but i did disable it from startup. what can i do to stop it?
[18:25] <Guest33725> is there a way i could stop my laptop from dimming?
[18:25] <average> e^0: hey
[18:26] <lickalott> I know about the 2^30 math.  What I don't understand is why I'm losing so much after the fact.
[18:26] <JediMaster> lickalott, ok, well on top of that there's various things that take up space when you format an file system, like file allocation tables, bad sector data etc.
[18:27] <PotatoHead007> Guest33725 did you check the brightness settings in System settings?
[18:27] <lickalott> any ideas on how to potentially correct it?
[18:27] <Guest33725> yes and it does nothing
[18:27] <gregf_> hitsujiTMO: Thanks very much! thats worked :/
[18:27] <JediMaster> lickalott, it's not incorrect
[18:28] <gregf_> hitsujiTMO: unfortunately i'm using a guest ubuntu vm on a host thats ubuntu as well :/
[18:28] <gregf_> s/:\//:\)/
[18:28] <PotatoHead007> Sorry to interrupt, but what is the channel for general talk?
[18:28] <lickalott> 30G just vanishing?  That's normal?  The reason i'm asking is I also have a 1.5 TB and 2 500GB drives in there that seem to be normal loss.  But this one seems to be a special case.
[18:28] <k1l_> !ot | PotatoHead007
[18:29] <PotatoHead007> Thanks :)
[18:29] <JediMaster> lickalott, have you checked the partiition fills the drive?
[18:30] <lickalott> on gparted, yes.  On ubuntu (server) no.  I mean it looks like it does (fdisk -l) but I'm not 100%
[18:36] <jokeart1> how to mention someone on irc?
[18:36] <compdoc> mention?
[18:37] <aufsnewbie> hello
[18:37] <JediMaster> lickalott, what file system is it?
[18:37] <JediMaster> lickalott, it could be the reserved disk space for root user
[18:37] <Mantissa> Does suspend need swap space?
[18:37] <JediMaster> no, hibernate does
[18:38] <Mantissa> Ah thanks
[18:38] <jokeart1> i mean send message to spesific person
[18:38] <aufsnewbie> does anyone know how to export aufs via nfs?
[18:40] <ecdhe> I have a kickstart ks.cfg issue, can anybody recommend a channel that could help?
[18:40] <carl-eric> So far I have not managed to make apache's mod_fcgid to use a tmp directory of my choosing, it always tries to use /tmp. It works when I give /tmp to group www-data and make it group-writable
[18:41] <carl-eric> so i have two questions: a) how can I make fcgid use a different tmp dir, and barring that b) why does the group-writable bit for /tmp get removed at random intervals?
[18:43] <ecdhe> ks.cfg, anyone?
[18:48] <ogra_> ecdhe, #ubuntu-installer during european work hours ... (you can try now, but i guess most people are gone)
[18:48] <ecdhe> Thanks ogra_!
[18:49] <aufsnewbie> I've created an aufs on 3 xfs partitioned drives on 12.04 and now want to export via nfs  but the client just hangs if I add the aufs folder to /etc/exports
[18:57] <willwh> hi folks; I am trying to add a simple cron job, my script runs fine in the term; $ /home/willwh/bash/player.sh
[18:57] <willwh> willwh@hqx:~$ cat -v /etc/cron.d/snapshot
[18:57] <willwh> 2 * * * * willwh /home/willwh/bash/player.sh
[18:57] <willwh> and it's not running, any ideas?
[19:03] <worm`> hello, has anyone managed to schedule with cron Sikuli scripts or other UI tests on a Ubuntu 12.04 VM? I have been stuck for a few days, here are the details of my problem if you think you'd be able to help me: https://answers.launchpad.net/sikuli/+question/243084
[19:04] <NoBleSir> ubuntu
[19:07] <Delan82> hi
[19:08] <muk> are noob questions allowed?
[19:08] <Delan82> i want ubuntu for not new netbook
[19:08] <DJones> muk: Certainly are
[19:08] <jhutchins> willwh: Full paths on all internal calls?
[19:09] <jhutchins> willwh: Add echo or logger lines to see if it's running at all.
[19:09] <jhutchins> willwh: Check logs and email.
[19:09] <muk> does upgrading ubuntu (to 13.10) effect my scripts and settings that i have changed/made?
[19:09] <NoBleSir> no it should not
[19:09] <jhutchins> muk: Not generally.
[19:10] <muk> thanks....and what is the approx amount od data it downloads while upgrading...I am upgrading from 12.10
[19:10] <Delan82> hey?
[19:10] <Delan82> Any here?
[19:11] <jokeart1> yo
[19:11] <NoBleSir> not much
[19:11] <NoBleSir> refresh of os
[19:11] <muk> @NobleSir...thanks
[19:12] <NoBleSir> @muk no problem
[19:12] <jokeart1> when i click xchat icon on the unity launcher, it always open a new window, what's probably wrong?
[19:12] <lickalott> JediMaster, ext2.  I tried ext3 and ext4 but went with ext2 to try and see if it gave me more space due to the non-use of journaling
[19:14] <OerHeks> Delan82, old netbooks run best on Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[19:17] <Somelauw_> Hi, I want to create a shortcut. What's the program called in which you can change all settings?
[19:17] <mediawork> hi
[19:17] <Somelauw_> like, keyboard, screen resolution, etc
[19:17] <mediawork> it seem that I have a intel core duo processor 32bit -- yet it has 3GB of RAM.
[19:18] <lickalott> you want to create a desktop shortcut or a unity launcher short cut Somelauw_
[19:18] <mediawork> on this laptop
[19:18] <govno> can someone help me
[19:18] <govno> http://allgamesfor.me/?id=248428 just fill out capcha nothing to download or registrer it seys if i ger 4 more people i will get game probably scam but noting to lose
[19:18] <boysean> how do i restart my cron daemon
[19:18] <govno> pls need 3 more
[19:18] <govno> 1 more
[19:19] <govno> nice
[19:19] <govno> ty
[19:19] <govno> dont need more
[19:19] <govno> now i will see if it is a scam or not
[19:19] <lickalott> /etc/init.d/crond restart <---boysean
[19:19] <genii> govno: For future reference, try not to use the support channel for these things.
[19:20] <OerHeks> govno, wrong channel to ask, this is #ubuntu support only
[19:20] <govno> i kno
[19:20] <govno> i just needed people
[19:20] <bessono> /etc/init.d/cron restart
[19:20] <Somelauw_> lickalott: just the command name
[19:20] <genii> govno: Next time perhaps ask for volunteers in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:20] <boysean> ty
[19:20] <govno> it is a scam
[19:21] <Somelauw_> things like gnome-settings don't seem to work
[19:21] <Somelauw_> but the program must have a name
[19:22] <lickalott> i don't know what command you're talking about.  if you want to create a .desktop file (for just you) you have to make a .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications.  If you want it available so you can drop it on unity you have to put it in /usr/share/applications
[19:22] <vitaliy_> hi all
[19:22] <Somelauw_> lickalott: you know the settings menu? I want a command that opens that menu
[19:22] <lickalott> in your /home/NAME directory there is/was an example.desktop file that you can work from.
[19:22] <Somelauw_> like the command firefox starts a webbrowser
[19:22] <lickalott> hit the dash home icon and type settings
[19:23] <Somelauw_> i wanna use it outside of unity
[19:23] <lickalott> ahh
[19:23] <Somelauw_> so i need the program name
[19:23] <lickalott> wait 1
[19:24] <lickalott> gnome-control-center
[19:24] <lickalott> sudo*
[19:26] <mediawork> ok so, I bet I must download the 32 bit version of ubuntu if I hae a 32 bit processor?
[19:26] <lickalott> true
[19:26] <muk> yup
[19:27] <mediawork> I mean, the 64 bit version doesn't somehow magically use my 3GB of RAM?
[19:27] <mediawork> weird, I have a 32 bit processor but 3GB or RAM.
[19:27] <lickalott> why is that weird?
[19:27] <mediawork> on the ubuntu download page it says if you have
[19:27] <muk> ram has nothing to do with processor...if you have 32 bit processor..you have to download 32 bit version
[19:28] <lickalott> 32 bit proc will recognize up to 4GB of ram
[19:28] <mediawork> less than 2GB download the 32bit version
[19:28] <Somelauw_> lickalott: thanks, that one worked
[19:28] <kostkon> mediawork, what's your cpu
[19:28] <mediawork> intel core duo
[19:28]  * lickalott ^5's Somelauw_ 
[19:28] <k1l_> mediawork: if your cpu can go with 64bit go with 64bit, no matter how much ram you got
[19:28] <kostkon> mediawork, isn't that 64bit
[19:29] <k1l_> kostkon: mediawork of course they are 64bit cpus
[19:29] <mediawork> check out the instructions here,  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[19:29] <ilcormi> ciao
[19:29] <ilcormi> lista!
[19:29] <mediawork> maybe they shold update it
[19:29] <ilcormi> !lista
[19:29] <mediawork> its the core 1 duo, so its 32bit, not 64bit
[19:30] <mediawork> kostkon, core duo t2400
[19:30] <k1l_> mediawork: there are still 32bit-only cpus out there. but again: if you got a modern 64bit cpu thre is no need to use 32bit only
[19:30] <jhutchins> mediawork: Um, there IS no "core 1".
[19:30] <mediawork> jhutchins, ok so core duo is 64bit?
[19:30] <mediawork> I thought that was core 2 duo
[19:30] <kostkon> k1l_, it seems core duos are 32bit
[19:31] <muk> you can see your processor type in settings...or somehwere...
[19:31] <muk> which os are you using currently?
[19:31] <k1l_> kostkon: oh well, that is one of the cheap ones that are 32bit only. yes
[19:31] <jhutchins> mediawork: That CPU appears to be 32bit.
[19:32] <jhutchins> mediawork: Dual Core though.
[19:32] <genii> mediawork: The 32bit kernel has Physical Address Extension (PAE) so it doesn't have the RAM limit
[19:32] <kostkon> k1l_, yeah, t2xxx aka yonah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yonah_%28microprocessor%29
[19:32] <mediawork> thanks all
[19:32] <mediawork> I will download 32bit,
[19:33] <Bray90820> Would this be a good place to report a bug/typo to the ubuntu website
[19:33] <mediawork> btw, what is the current ubuntu recommended way of making a bootable usb?  -- low level copy?
[19:33] <jhutchins> mediawork: Windows or *nix?
[19:33] <kostkon> Bray90820, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website
[19:34] <Bray90820> kostkon: thank you
[19:34] <jhutchins> mediawork: What OS are you creating the USB with?
[19:34] <mediawork> jhutchins,  from ubuntu
[19:34] <Bray90820> kostkon: it's more of a typo would i still report it there
[19:34] <jhutchins> cat or dd > /dev/sr#
[19:35] <kostkon> Bray90820, yes
[19:35] <Bray90820> Thanks
[19:35] <jhutchins> mediawork: cat or dd > /dev/sr#
[19:37] <Bray90820> #ubuntu-touch
[19:37] <Bray90820> oops
[19:37] <mediawork> jhutchins,  so no the "make startup disk"
[19:37] <mediawork> jhutchins,  actually make startup disk bums out on me ,  says my usb is not big enough
[19:38] <aufsnewbie> I've created an aufs on 3 xfs partitioned drives on ubuntu 12.04 and now want to export via nfs  but the client just hangs if I add the aufs folder to /etc/exports
[19:38] <evilbug> what are a couple of window managers that support tabs since thunar on xubuntu doesn't do that.
[19:39] <Bray90820> Us ubuntu desktop still supported on the nexus 7
[19:40] <closingin> evilbug: nautilus, caja
[19:41] <evilbug> closingin: thanks.
[19:42] <mediawork> oh, how do I get LiLi on my ubuntu?
[19:42] <mediawork> dont see it in the repo
[19:42] <Bashing-om> j/ freenode
[19:43] <Bashing-om> oopps
[19:43] <Somelauw_> not sure what to google on or what to ask, but the icons and fonts and the windows are too big. popups sometimes take half a screen. How to make those appear smaller?
[19:44] <Somelauw_> already tried stuff like "displays"
[19:44] <boysean> does cron daemon need special permission to run programs that I can run from command line?
[19:44] <closingin> mediawork: LiLi is a windows software..
[19:44] <Somelauw_> but that only enables me to change resolution
[19:44] <boysean> like '/usr/local/bin/flexget execute' can be run in the commandline, but doesnt work in crontab..
[19:46] <nobitanobi> Hi guys. I have found myself doing the following in the Terminal a lot. "cd ~/Projects/work/..."
[19:46] <nobitanobi> How could I have a shortkey, like say: gotoproject1
[19:46] <nobitanobi> in the terminal, that would do that command?
[19:46] <closingin> nobitanobi: Create an alias in your bashrc
[19:46] <nobitanobi> alias, that's it
[19:46] <nobitanobi> thanks :)
[19:46] <Somelauw_> according to the internet there should be an appearance setting, but it's not shown for me
[19:47] <rypervenche> boysean: I think you need to be part of either the cron or crontab group.
[19:52] <funky>      sudo find -type f -name "*.*" -exec sed -i 's/foo/bar/g' {} \;   can this command affect stings that dont have foo?
[19:52] <funky> I tried it few times seems its changing some else as well
[19:54] <jhutchins> boysean: Doesn't need special permissions, but does need to have the full path.
[19:54] <Somelauw_> Does anyone know how to change appearance settings? It used to be in the settings menu.
[19:54] <closingin> Somelauw_: /usr/share/themes/
[19:56] <jhutchins> Somelauw_: WHat resolution are your
[19:56] <jhutchins> Somelauw_: WHat resolution are you running.
[19:56] <Sophie1> Hi, if Ubuntu's windowing system is switching to Mir in 14.04 does that mean that proprietary drivers would have to support it? And are they going to, if not does that mean no 3D acceleration?
[19:57] <rypervenche> funky: I would not run that. The -i in sed will replace symbolic links with files.
[19:57] <rypervenche> funky: Unless you really know what it will run on, there are better ways to do that.
[19:57] <jhutchins> Sophie1: That might be a question for the developers mailing lists.
[19:57] <Somelauw_> jhutchins:   dimensions:    1368x768 pixels (341x191 millimeters)
[19:59] <funky> rypervenche:  what do u suggest?
[19:59] <rypervenche> funky: Let's take this to a private message.
[19:59] <funky> I simply want to mass rename strings in files
[19:59] <jhutchins> Somelauw_: themes seems likely
[19:59] <Somelauw_> jhutchins: and my actual resolution is 1920*1080
[19:59] <jhutchins> funky: There are rename utilities.
[20:01] <Sophie1> jhutchins: Okay, it just seems like it'd be a very bad thing for Canonical to release a distro with no proper 3D support.
[20:02] <k1l_> Sophie1: nor forced MIR in 14.04. so for further questions please ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:02] <k1l_> *no forced MIR
[20:03] <funky> jhutchins:  I search and it seems most advice online is bs
[20:03] <funky> those functions screw something
[20:03] <funky> is there some site where people vote for functions that work?
[20:03] <Beldar> Sophie1, What you may not be aware of in a general sense is the lack of support in many areas for linux from manufacturers and vendors and specifically to distributions, and the work on this side that has to be done.
[20:04] <funky> who here knows find and replace function that does work?
[20:04] <funky> raise hand lol
[20:04] <Cheekio> Do all nvidia cards work pretty well with ubuntu? Will I see a performance increase over my existing ATI card?
[20:05] <Cheekio> I'm using fglrx and wine installations of games leaves plenty to be desired.
[20:05] <Somelauw> jhutchins: sorry, got disconnected for a while
[20:06] <xangua> Cheekio: what were you expecting using games on wine¿
[20:06] <Cheekio> I've seen reports of good experiences, I figured if it can be gotten to work, I can get it to work.
[20:07] <ice9> Cinnamon crash every time I login and failback to gnome, any idea?
[20:07] <funky> anyone here knows search and replace text string command in files that works?
[20:07] <ice9> funky: check 'sed'
[20:07] <funky> i checked
[20:07] <funky> is there some complete working function?
[20:07] <funky> not just sed manual
[20:07] <swatson> dude sed is awesome
[20:08] <swatson> plenty of tutorials online for it
[20:08] <swatson> super intuitve and powerful
[20:08] <funky> problem is some tutorials are wrong
[20:08] <funky> lol
[20:08] <funky> I used this      sudo find -type f -name "*.*" -exec sed -i 's/foo/bar/g' {} \;
[20:08] <funky> and seems it screws some files
[20:08] <swatson> well you could try Perl I guess
[20:08] <ice9> funky: try xargs instead of exec
[20:09] <funky>  meltdown
[20:09] <funky> how much I love dear windows
[20:09] <funky> much simpler to rename there
[20:09] <xauth> funky: Nah. That command doesn't screw files.
[20:09] <xauth> funky: it just replaces foo with bar.
[20:09] <funky> xauth: well it seems to rename something else apart foo
[20:09] <funky> hmm
[20:10] <funky> I am going to run it once more
[20:10] <funky> and then run diff, then its clear
[20:10] <swatson> funky try perl -i
[20:10] <swatson> might be more what youre looking for
[20:10] <funky> I just something that is proven to work
[20:10] <funky> lol
[20:11] <funky> instead of trying trying
[20:11] <funky> I stick with xauth suggestion, re run and use diff
[20:11] <xauth> funky: Hey, I didn't suggest that.
[20:14] <funky> xauth: funky: it just replaces foo with bar.
[20:14] <funky> darn
[20:14] <Somelauw> jhutchins: I found the appearance menu. It is on gnome-control-center, but for some reason it only shows up when using unity
[20:14] <funky> any one here got clear mind and know exact command that works?
[20:14] <funky> :D
[20:14] <Somelauw> No offense, but in my opinion that's really crappy design by the ubuntu developers
[20:15] <ice9> Cinnamon crash every time I login and failback to gnome, any idea?
[20:15] <Somelauw> I think I'm gonna change to xfce
[20:15] <xauth> funky: "<funky> I am going to run it once more"
[20:15] <funky> yes
[20:15] <Xuisce1> hi
[20:15] <funky> as u said it works
[20:15] <Xuisce1> hi all
[20:15] <Xuisce1> hello
[20:16] <Xuisce1> hi Guest95696
[20:16] <funky> I saw once a very good site where working search replaces functions are upvoted, forgot url
[20:16] <xauth> Am I strange if I think voting on code is really weird?
[20:17] <aufsnewbie> anyone use zero or thin clients to vm on a server, i'm looking for some good guides.
[20:17] <michagogo|cloud> What would best practices be for taking a blank external HD and installing Ubuntu and a second Linux distribution?
[20:17] <michagogo|cloud> In terms of partitioning, I mean
[20:18] <michagogo|cloud> How many partitions? 3, for Ubuntu, otherlinux, and swap?
[20:18] <michagogo|cloud> Does the order matter?
[20:18] <microsoft_> Is there something that I should configure on xubuntu before running an ssd?
[20:18] <michagogo|cloud> Etc
[20:18]  * xauth is done with swap. If 4+ Gig is not enough, swap is not going to help you.
[20:19] <Xuisce1> hi xauth
[20:20] <moldy> hi
[20:20] <Beldar> michagogo|cloud, ubuntu can be installed in one partition, a swap is your choice depending on your setup and needs. A single HD with a standard msdos set up does have partition types and numbers of limitations is all.
[20:21] <moldy> after a dist-upgrade, i got debconf messages about grub failing to install. grub-install /dev/sda says this: warn: Your core.img is unusually large.  It won't fit in the embedding area. error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for cross-disk install
[20:21] <moldy> i am running lvm on raid1. how do i fix this?
[20:21] <Xuisce1> hi all
[20:21] <michagogo|cloud> Beldar: oh, swap isn't required?
[20:21] <ianorlin> it is needed for suspend though
[20:22] <hewhomust> hi Xuisce1
[20:22] <xauth> ianorlin: true.
[20:22] <Beldar> michagogo|cloud, Swap is helpful, it is used for several things, it depends on the memory you have now and what you need.
[20:24] <Beldar> michagogo|cloud, Theoretically if you have a lot of memory and have no need to hibernate you can forgo a swap, however it does cache stuff in general at times.
[20:25] <Xuisce1> hm
[20:26] <Nindustries> While trying to compile a driver for TBS tuner card 6985, it gives me missing .o files during make
[20:26] <xauth> Nindustries: and? are they missing?
[20:26] <Nindustries> suggestions? :/  http://pastebin.com/m8WhpEP4
[20:28] <Nindustries> xauth, there is apparently
[20:29] <xauth> Nindustries: actually, it's complaining about one missing .cmd file, not "missing .o files".
[20:30] <Nindustries> xauth, it is?
[20:30] <Nindustries> ( im new to driver compilation )
[20:31] <xauth> Nindustries: might need to do some prepar-y stuff. Make prepare or something. To generate the .cmd files.
[20:32] <xauth> Nindustries: it's been a while for me. I suppose the kernel build system has advanced in the mean time.
[20:33] <xauth> Nindustries: tried to stfw for the error message yet?
[20:33] <aufsnewbie> what is the best way to export multiple drives as a single mount via nfs
[20:33] <Nindustries> xauth, What's stfw?
[20:33] <Mantissa> I removed some un-needed swap space partitions and now upon booting it just hangs on 'resume libgcrypt version'?
[20:34] <xauth> Nindustries: there's a program that has an answer to all your questions. You're never the first with a problem. Someone else always already wrote about it.
[20:35] <Nindustries> xauth, I see, I will use my google-fu
[20:35] <tgienger> Anyone here installed Ubuntu server on ESXi? I can't get it to load from the iso image on boot for install
[20:36] <Nindustries> found the meaning of stfw.. :)
[20:36]  * xauth snickers.
[20:36] <Nindustries> and I did, yes
[20:36]  * Nindustries gives xauth his +1
[20:36] <aufsnewbie> tgienger: are you using unetbootin
[20:37] <funky> whats the best way to use diff to compare two directories recursively? idea it to compare each file in them and show diff in text if any
[20:37] <Mantissa> When I try to boot into recovery mode it also hangs on resume libgcrypt
[20:37] <myndzi> what's the proper procedure for increasing nofile on ubuntu 12? the internet seems to be full of answers but none of them seem to work
[20:37] <funky> tgienger: what is ESXI
[20:37] <tgienger> aufsnewbie: I'm loading into the VM's cd/dvd drive
[20:37] <funky> I propose to make ubuntu wiki
[20:37] <tgienger> ESXi is a vmware server
[20:38] <funky> each correct answer is upvoted and bs answers downvoted
[20:38] <funky> tgienger:  simply load ready VM
[20:38] <funky> or u would have to make one
[20:39] <funky> who here likes this idea?
[20:39] <funky> to maky ubuntu wiki
[20:39] <funky> there seems alot of same questions
[20:39] <NoBleSir> ubuntu
[20:39] <Myrtti> funky: it's called askubuntu.com
[20:40] <funky> Myrtti: ty!
[20:41] <ahoneybun> how I would like to add a game in the unity dash that is installed in my /home partition
[20:43] <p3rsist> What's the difference between using sudo su - <user> -c "<command>" and sudo -u <user> <command> ?
[20:43] <SomeDude> Hello. Can someone help me pinpoint the configuration file that includes SSL snakeoil directive?
[20:44] <SomeDude> I edited that file to a bad value and my server config is busted
[20:46] <myndzi> excuse me, ubuntu 13.10
[20:47] <myndzi> /etc/security/limits.conf seems to have no effect, and i've done the pam thing too
[20:47] <myndzi> i checked bashrc and profile to make sure there wasn't something in there
[20:47] <myndzi> i'm not checking it on the same shell session
[20:50] <xauth> myndzi: did you log out and back in after changing limits.conf?
[20:50] <myndzi> yes.
[20:51] <jgcampbell300> is ubuntu 13.10 stable ?
[20:51] <jgcampbell300> or should i use 12.04
[20:51] <Rubas> use LTS version?
[20:51] <Rubas> 12.04
[20:51] <jhutchins> SomeDude: sudo grep -ir snake /etc/apache2/*
[20:52] <jgcampbell300> and i am trying to figgure this one out ... if i install 12.04 and do a apt-dist-upgrade or what ever that command was .. will it move me from 12.04 to something else ?
[20:52] <SomeDude> jhutchins thank you!
[20:52] <jhutchins> jgcampbell300: Not by itself.
[20:52] <jhutchins> jgcampbell300: What is your goal?
[20:53] <xauth> myndzi: does setrlimit(2) help you?
[20:53] <jhutchins> !upgrade
[20:53] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. I built a media server with ubuntu 13.x server install..... pretty much everything is fine except now when I log in - from either the server itself or via ssh - instead of a desktop I get a gray screen with an arrow... and that's it.
[20:53] <myndzi> i'll look
[20:53] <jgcampbell300> jhutchins, I want to install the most stable version of ubuntu and get the latest updates-upgrades
[20:53] <SomeDude> jhutchins do you know fix :443 No VirtualHosts found error. I think I am not associating a file in my sites-available  folder a2en something...
[20:53] <Nindustries> xauth, make prepare doesnt solve it btw
[20:54] <xauth> myndzi: I was thinking of the kernel maximum.
[20:54] <jhutchins> SomeDude: Your configuration does not find any VirtualHosts defined.
[20:54] <Rubas> jgcampbell300: most stable version of ubuntu is 12.04, but it depends on which kind of system you are going to want and want you are going to do with it, I suppose
[20:54] <gmachine_24> do I need to run an fsck from a live boot or...... what........? the sign-in screen is normal. I can choose the gnome desktop, etc. but then, as I said, nothing. and I must use a terminal on another computer to make any changes, reboot, etc.
[20:55] <jhutchins> SomeDude: I'm a very bad person to teach you about this, my experience is tainted by obsolete and foreign setups.
[20:55] <jhutchins> SomeDude: I believe this is current: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/httpd.html
[20:56] <jgcampbell300> Rubas, well i am in need of a every day desktop to work with ... and i would like to learn much more about wine so i had planned on setting up two partitions with ubuntu one to test and one to use every day .. along with experimenting with xenserver
[20:56] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: You can run fsck at reboot before the drives are mounted by doing sudo shutdown -Fr now
[20:56] <gmachine_24> so I don't keep hogging space I've combined my  posts here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6875223/
[20:56] <gmachine_24> jhutchins, thanks for that. will it bring me to a command prompt?
[20:57] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: Depending on the condition of your disks it should just be a normal reboot other than the disk check.
[20:57] <Rubas> jgcampbell300: use LTS for everyday use (stable partition) use 13.10 for development / testing / having fun - I would say, or maybe I would use debian for the stable partition
[20:57] <gmachine_24> jhutchins, ok. it's an ssd drive. I assume the rules are the same.........
[20:57] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: So far yes.
[20:58] <Rubas> jgcampbell300: what are you going to do with wine btw?
[20:58] <jgcampbell300> rubas, i have been having tons of problems with debian preforance on desktop
[20:58] <jhutchins> jgcampbell300: I would set up 12.04 and start learning to use it.
[20:58] <jhutchins> jgcampbell300: After you're comfortable you can learn about upgrading and try newer versions.
[20:58] <Rubas> jhutchins: +1
[20:58] <gmachine_24> jhutchins, ok. will do and I will report back
[20:59] <gmachine_24> thanks :-)
[20:59] <jhutchins> jgcampbell300: Even better than learning wine is learning to do things with native Linux software, which is often even better than the Windows equivalents.
[20:59] <jgcampbell300> i want to learn to use wine becouse i am gamer and do alot of work with ms based clients im trying to get away from windows
[20:59] <SomeDude> jhutchins: thank you!!! I spent over 2 hours trying to troubleshoot this
[20:59] <SomeDude> Its working now
[20:59] <jhutchins> SomeDude: W00t!
[20:59] <Rubas> jgcampbell300: what kind of games do you play? You do know that you can get Steam working under Ubuntu 32bit?
[21:00] <gmachine_24> I've never used wine. Why would I use Wine? OK, I have a windows desktop for that stuff.
[21:00] <SomeDude> Anyone know how to always force https even on port 80?
[21:00] <Rubas> jgcampbell300: asfaik WoW runs perfectly aswell in Wine
[21:00] <SomeDude> i.e. if someone hits http force https?
[21:00] <jgcampbell300> rubas, yes ... eve online right now witch as far as i know dosnt work unless you use wine or vm
[21:00] <jhutchins> SomeDude: force redirect.
[21:00] <jgcampbell300> rub ya i usto play wow on wine
[21:00] <SomeDude> jhutchins: using htaccess?
[21:00] <Rubas> jhutchins: +1 for .htaccess
[21:01] <myndzi> okay, it appears the hard limit is correctly changed, but the soft limit is still defaulting to 1024
[21:01] <jhutchins> SomeDude: Using allow overrid (htaccess) has a significant performance hit, I just put the directives in the site config.
[21:01] <jgcampbell300> think im gona go with 12.04 ... so to be clear If i use apt-get dist-upgrade it will stay at 12.04 ?
[21:02] <Rubas> jgcampbell300: then install 12.04 (LTS = Long Term Support) and learn the basics in it :)
[21:02] <Rubas> jgcampbell300: why do apt-get dist-upgrade?
[21:02] <jhutchins> SomeDude: WIth allow override the server has to check every directory in the tree of every page it hits.
[21:02] <jgcampbell300> rubas, from time to time it says i have updates and to get them to run that
[21:02] <jgcampbell300> !apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:03] <jhutchins> jgcampbell300: Unless you take additional measures that will just upgrade within the release you have.
[21:03] <gmachine_24> jhutchins, rebooted and I wound up at the long-in screen which was fine but then after signing in I get the gray screen with an icon pointer/arrow and that's it.. I can move the pointer around... but that doesn't help
[21:03] <gmachine_24> should I reinstall the desktop?
[21:03] <jhutchins> jgcampbell300: dist-upgrade allows pacakges to be replaced and the kernel to be upgraded, within the release.
[21:03] <k1l_> jgcampbell300: apt-get dist-upgrade will not bring you to 12.10
[21:03] <Rubas> jgcampbell300: i think apt-get update & apt-get upgrade should be cool - in the system ;)
[21:03] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: Sounds like X may be starting but the Desktop can not.
[21:04] <k1l_> !apt-get | jgcampbell300
[21:04] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: Have you run GUI programs as root?
[21:04] <gmachine_24> jhutchins, uhm........... yes. gparted.
[21:04] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: Check the files (especially hidden files) in $HOME to make sure that they are owned by your users.
[21:04] <jhutchins> gmachine_24: One way to check if this is the problem is to add a new user and try to log in as them.
[21:05] <gmachine_24> jhutchins: ok. thanks.
[21:05] <jgcampbell300> jhutchins, ok thanks ... i bleave i have it now ... im going to keep debian 7 ... but install ubuntu 12.04 for a stable desktop another 12.04 for testing ... i have been running my servers on 12.04 as well ... i just noticed that 10.04 seems to have the lts for server .. is that right
[21:05] <jgcampbell300> ahh nm
[21:06] <jgcampbell300> 12.04 is server and desktop
[21:06] <k1l_> jgcampbell300: 12.04 is lts too
[21:06] <k1l_> !lts | jgcampbell300
[21:06] <jgcampbell300> i cant wait to figgure out how to get xenserver to do what i want it to
[21:06] <jhutchins> Supposedly 14.04 will also be.
[21:07] <jgcampbell300> it should make less of a mess with all the tinkering ;)
[21:07] <jgcampbell300> thanks for the insite ... i am off to break something else
[21:10] <gmachine_24> jhutchins: ok, added user say testuser, rebooted just for effect and then.... same problem logged in as testuser ---> gray screen with icon/arrow
[21:10] <dubis> Someone can help me to configurate java plugin
[21:12] <Rubas> How do you whisper in IRC?
[21:14] <dubis> Hello
[21:14] <magesing> Hi everyone, I'm having trouble mounting a cdrom. Trying sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom results in: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0
[21:14] <gmachine_24> jhutchins: I am reading that this might be a problem with a driver update...... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1614269&page=2&s=18a530c56baa73b772577f6a304bcf97 but these posts are old
[21:14] <Rubas> dubis: what's wrong with your java?
[21:15] <dubis> Thank >Rubas> .... I need to use the ORACLE java on the java web page http://java.com/fr/download/installed.jsp I 've got error
[21:16] <Rubas> dubis: what kind of error do you get?
[21:16] <Ziber> Why does PulseAudio only see HDMI for an output device when the hdmi cable is unplugged and I have built-in speakers in my laptop?
[21:17] <dubis> Rubas: NullpointerException Error While initializiing mamangers
[21:18] <Rubas> dubis: is it the only exception you get? and do you get it when you try to go to a website or?
[21:18] <lickalott> gents, I have this sound card - Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller.  I've read a bug report for kernel version and 12.04 specifically but i was wondering if anyone got this to work.
[21:19] <funky> magesing:  did u do mkdir /mnt/cdrom ?
[21:19] <funky> lol
[21:19] <dubis> I've got some certicate problem last week but I did lot of manipulation since
[21:19] <magesing> funky: yes
[21:19] <Ziber> This has been happening a lot. If I unplug my HDMI cable, my computer forgets how to do sound internally... :/
[21:20] <dubis> Rubas I use oracle-java7-installer  pacage
[21:20] <dubis> Rubas:  I've got some certicate problem last week but I did lot of manipulation since
[21:20] <magesing> doh, the media is bad
[21:20] <magesing> cracked cd
[21:21] <jhutchins> Ziber: pulseaudio is not actually "ready for prime time".  You could probably just restart it.
[21:21] <brimstone> are there preseed answers to ignore the -updates repo during an install?
[21:21] <funky> magesing: edit /etc/fstab after last line add    /dev/sr0     /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[21:21] <Ziber> jhutchins: Are there any that are "ready for prime time"?
[21:21] <Rubas> dubis: when do you get that exception, everytime you use a java applet or use a java program?
[21:21] <Rubas> dubis: error*
[21:22] <slap_stick> hey, i was wondering with upstart scripts how upstart knows how to terminate a process it's started without the pid?
[21:22] <funky> /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
[21:22] <funky> :)
[21:22] <Seveas> slap_stick: because upstart traces until it sees the fork() and remembers the pid
[21:22] <funky> there want entry in etc/fstab for cd fom :D
[21:22] <funky> cd rom
[21:22] <dubis> Rubas: On the test page of java that  I gave first If you've an other page of test
[21:22] <SomeDude> I am placing <IfModule mod_rewrite.c>    RewriteEngine On    RewriteCond %{HTTPS} !on    RewriteRule .* https://%{HTTP_HOST}/%{REQUEST_URI} [R=301,L,QSA] </IfModule> into my httpd.conf file and it is not forcing HTTPS across my domain. Any ideas why?
[21:23] <Ziber> jhutchins: How would I restart it anyway?
[21:23] <slap_stick> Seveas: so it has some db of the forked process? or it still knows that it forked the process?
[21:23] <Seveas> it knows it forked the process
[21:23] <slap_stick> ok
[21:24] <dubis> Rubas: I found this page => http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~matuszek/General/JavaVersionTests/JavaTests.html
[21:25] <dubis> Rubas: All applet are in Error  Yor security parameter block non secure application
[21:28] <Rubas> dubis: I think you have to reinstall Oracle JDK
[21:29] <Rubas> dubis: follow this: http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[21:30] <OerHeks> there is a !java factoid, with openJRE / Oracle JRE solutions and howto set oracle as default
[21:30] <OerHeks> !java
[21:30] <dubis> Rubas: Is oracle-java7-installer package installing Java JRE only???
[21:31] <Rubas> dubis: do you need the JDK or JRE?
[21:31] <Rubas> dubis: or both?
[21:31] <Ziber> So, having a lot of sound issues, with a laptop with an HDMI connection that isn't always connected. Any suggestions for something better than pulseaudio?
[21:32] <dubis> Rubas: I need oracle java applet working throught my browser
[21:32] <Rubas> then you only need the JRE
[21:32] <Rubas> dubis: http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Oracle-Java-JRE-on-Ubuntu-Linux
[21:33] <dubis> Rubas: I'm working on Sun ORacle server mainframe There a is java with jar application for taking the hand on them
[21:34] <brodee> Q: I have windows on main ssd, but I have put Ubuntu on my secondary hdd drive, where should I install boot loader?
[21:35] <dubis> Rubas: http://pastebin.com/bcM5kAb5 That means is allready intalled
[21:36] <Rubas> dubis: It looks like it is installed yes, but maybe the config is wrong. I would recommend a reinstall, since the errors you get are not some I have seen before
[21:37] <dubis> Rubas: This one should be better
[21:37] <dubis> Rubas: http://pastebin.com/GYF3dXGU
[21:38] <dubis> Rubas: In english
[21:40] <dubis> Rubas: The link you gave me doesn't use the java-7-oracle debian package
[21:41] <Rubas> dubis: it should be working - my configs are the same dubis
[21:42] <Rubas> dubis: it's for ubuntu, not debian? :)
[21:42] <Rubas> dubis: but should work on both
[21:43] <dubis> Rubias: Oooops :)
[21:43] <overratedsnowbal> hello
[21:44] <cube> hi
[21:44] <cube> can i get some help?
[21:44] <dubis> Rubias: I need to purge first
[21:45] <Rubas> dubis: yes you need to do that first :)
[21:45] <Rubas> cube: please state your question instead of asking for help, most of us here are here to help you :)
[21:45] <cube> Rubas: thanks! :)
[21:46] <tux_1> How can I disable the monitor from blanking by command line or configuration file?
[21:46] <cube> Rubas: i'm trying to get org-journal to run, but whenever i'm in calendar-mode and do "i j" on a date, i get a "buffer is readonly" error
[21:46] <gmachine_24> still having problems booting into the desktop on my 13.x server install. turns out this is a problem with some ssd drives. even worse, though, is when I log in from a remote terminal it says "/ is using 100% of 47.81GB (the SSD drive). Yesterday I was using 8 gb. wtf.
[21:46] <Wiz_KeeD> Hey guys
[21:47] <Ziber> I restarted pulseaudio and it no longer recognizes my built-in mic...
[21:47] <Wiz_KeeD> I got two ubuntu boxes on the same network and I can't see one another, I would like to copy some files, how do I got about this?
[21:47] <Rubas> cube: I can't help you with that sorry, I don't know org-journal that well. :)
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  can they ping each other?
[21:47] <k1l_> Wiz_KeeD: use samba
[21:47] <Wiz_KeeD> MonkeyDust, one second please let me check!
[21:47] <Wiz_KeeD> got I love the ubuntu feel :X
[21:48] <Rubas> k1l_: what about sftp?
[21:48] <Wiz_KeeD> what's the difference between the two?
[21:48] <k1l_> Rubas: yes, sftp, or scp, or or or. but on low level user i think samba and clicky nautilus is the easiest
[21:49] <Rubas> Wiz_KeeD: k1l_ got the right difference
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> samba is for linux-windows connections
[21:49] <Wiz_KeeD> MonkeyDust, yes they can ping eachother
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  ok, do you have physical access to both pc's?
[21:50] <Wiz_KeeD> yes sir I do
[21:50] <Wiz_KeeD> both are on my lap, well, almost
[21:50] <k1l_> MonkeyDust: yes, but its easiest to setup, imho. and it "does the job". of course sftp, or ssh or nfs would be more native
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  ok, install openssh-server and openssh-client on both pc's
[21:50] <Wiz_KeeD> server on both? why's that?
[21:50] <overratedsnowbal> I'm using empathy for irc and everyone's messages are highlighted in blue, with big bold usernames, t
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  do you want to work in both directions?
[21:51] <Wiz_KeeD> MonkeyDust, no, not really
[21:51] <Wiz_KeeD> and openssh-server is installed on the box I want to get info from
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  ok, my mistake then, server on the one, client on the other
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> ok
[21:51] <Wiz_KeeD> both are installed on both apparently, m3h
[21:51] <Wiz_KeeD> now what?
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  and you can't use ssh?
[21:52] <dubis> Rubias: Thanks Maybe ICetea could work I've to check
[21:52] <Wiz_KeeD> should I use scp MonkeyDust ?
[21:53] <Wiz_KeeD> connected
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  is openssh-client installed on the pc you're working with?
[21:53] <Wiz_KeeD> yep
[21:53] <Wiz_KeeD> just connected to the target server
[21:53] <Wiz_KeeD> Should I use terminal and SCP?
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  yes, scp or rsync
[21:53] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm I should google rsync see how it works
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_keed: or filezilla in various OSes, or Andftp in Android :-)
[21:55] <linelevel> Hi guys. Yesterday I was having trouble copying files to a USB stick -- I reformatted the drive (FAT32), but was still getting corrupt transfers. I tried another USB stick and was having the same problem. So I rebooted my system, and now both USB sticks get mounted as read-only. Can anyone help? fsck finds no problems.
[21:55] <arno_> Hi, I'm on 12.04. I'd like to upgrade to 13.10 Do I need to upgrade step by step (12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10), or should I do it one step (12.04 -> 13.10) ?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Arno: you'll need to upgrade sequentially. If you wait til April you can upgrade directly to Trusty as it is LTS to LTS
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> arno_  my advice: stick to 12.04 and upgrade to 14.04 in april
[21:56] <Rubas> am I connected through a bouncer now? how can I check it?
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  was faster
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Arno: the onlybsupported waybto go in one stepnfrom 12.04 to 13.10 is a clean install
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Monkeydust: not bad, even on a Samsung Tab 2.0 7
[22:00] <overratedsnowbal> hello everyone
[22:01] <Rori> hi
[22:01] <overratedsnowbal> so what is irc all about, this is my first experience
[22:02] <Rori> can someone help me triple boot an ubuntu install?
[22:02] <Rori> i'm trying to encrypt it
[22:02] <Rori> i've got rEFIt installed on my mac but most of the tutorials don't really talk about how to partition and install an encrypted volume for ubuntu
[22:03] <k1l_> overratedsnowbal: this is a technical ubuntu support channel. for chatting we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:04] <Rubas> Nice ZNC is awesome! :P
[22:05] <daftykins> Rori: that's brave of you. is it really necessary?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> overratedsnowbal: its a chat cnetwork....
[22:05] <ejuan> Hey I'm trying to get audio over HDMI to work 0n xubuntu 12.04 x64 with an amd r7 260x video card. I see no settings in the ccc and no hdmi device in pulse audio.
[22:05] <Rori> yes
[22:05] <Rori> i want OSX for general use/purpose
[22:05] <Rori> windows xp partition for windows xp-specific applications that don't run well under vmware
[22:05] <Rori> and the linux install for sensitive data
[22:06] <Rubas> ejuan: do you know if the graphic card does transfer sound over HDMI?
[22:06] <Rubas> ejuan: support it*
[22:06] <ejuan> rubas yes
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Rori: xp is dead in April.
[22:06] <Rori> i can only install up to osx lion on this old macbook 2,1, so i fear that there are security concerns, but for basic internet browsing and stuff it isn't too bad
[22:06] <Rubas> ejuan: okay :) just a checkup :p
[22:06] <Rubas> ActionParsnip: didn't they extend the support?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Ejuan: run the large command in step one here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[22:07] <Rori> i dont need xp support, i need linux support thats why i'm here lol
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> Rubas: only for anti-malware
[22:07] <ejuan> also i added 'radeon.audio=1' to grub still nothing
[22:07] <SpartanS63> I got a question for anyone about Nvidia Optimus laptops.
[22:07] <SpartanS63> Anyone think they can help?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> SpartanS63: pleasengive details
[22:07] <jhutchins> SpartanS63: WIth what?
[22:08] <SpartanS63> I'm running a backport of Nvidia-Prime 0.5 on Ubuntu 13.10 and I'd like to try to get HDMI output working, if such a thing is possible. Hotplugging doesn't work, so what would my other options be?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> SpartanS63: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[22:09] <overratedsnowbal> can I get this http://www.instant-axess.co.uk/pd_wyse_e00_zero_client.cfm?gclid=CL6505a-s7wCFWLHtAodEiwAdA working with ubuntu so that I can have a high powered noisy machine in a different room?
[22:10] <SpartanS63> I'll let you know as soon as I've uploaded the output.
[22:11] <SpartanS63> Here it is: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=f1c9710c16588761b94791b576e83baf02f24178
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> !ltsp | overratedsnowbal
[22:13] <microsoft_> is there a way to restore default apps, or restore uninstalled packages?
[22:13] <microsoft_> I remove by mistake all system packages, like terminal and stuff, I need to restore them, is there a way?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> SpartanS63: what if you boot to the official ubuntu kernel rather than the unofficial one youbare using....
[22:14] <overratedsnowbal> ubottu: spot on, thanks. although do these differentiate between zero and thin clients?
[22:14] <SpartanS63> I haven't tried that yet. I didn't even think of that. I'll try booting on the 3.11 kernel.
[22:14] <SpartanS63> The kernel I'm using is from the mainline kernel PPA, if that makes any difference...
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> overratedsnowbal: you will be using rdp or vnc to connect to a server
[22:15] <SpartanS63> Here, I'll reboot with the official kernel and let you know what happens. Be back in a few.
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> SpartanS63: its not from the official ubuntu repos so we cannot support it here
[22:15] <overratedsnowbal> ActionParsnip: ok, i'll research, ltsp, rdp and vnc
[22:15] <overratedsnowbal> :)
[22:16] <SpartanS63> Alright, I'll be right back.
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> overratedsnowbal: thin clients are handy. Central management is great
[22:16] <overratedsnowbal> ActionParsnip: thin better then zero? This is for my front room, no fans or hdd allowed.
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> overratedsnowbal: id say thin but both have advantages
[22:17] <ejuan> aplay -l does not show my video card as an audio device
[22:17] <ejuan> just my south bridge and usb headphones
[22:17] <proteneer> which library has lkrb5?
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Proteneer: search on packages.ubuntu.com
[22:19] <Rori> so i guess what i want to do is not possible
[22:19] <ejuan> dmesg |grep HDA also does not show my video card or hdmi
[22:21] <ejuan> does kernel 3.2 not support ati hdmi audio or would it be more dependent on the video card drivers?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> Rori: it should be possible. Just because nobody answers right now doesnt mean its not possible
[22:22] <jhutchins> ejuan: HDMI has been supported since the 2.6 kernels.
[22:22] <ejuan> hmm
[22:23] <daftykins> ejuan: pretty sure it'll be down to the AMD driver you put on. did you get the latest beta to ensure it supports such a new card?
[22:23] <Rori> really i think my issue is just having to partition correctly for a manual dm-crypt install
[22:23] <Rori> for /, /root, swap, and the encrypted lvm
[22:24] <Rori> but all the tuts i found are old
[22:24] <daftykins> the mac you're working with is old :)
[22:24] <Rori> it is old
[22:24] <Rori> but thats why i ahve rEFIt
[22:24] <jhutchins> !efi
[22:24] <daftykins> using ubuntu on a mac is already funky enough, so usin encryption you're asking for trouble i think
[22:24] <daftykins> *using
[22:24] <Rori> if i  had UEFI i'd install archlinux
[22:24] <Rori> but this thing only has EFI
[22:25] <linelevel> Hi guys. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. For some reason whenever I attempt to copy a file from any ext* partition to any of my FAT32 USB drives, the transfer almost finishes (gets to 100% or close), but then hangs without finishing. If I yank the USB drive and plug it back in, the file appears to have copied perfectly.
[22:25] <ejuan> daftykins, yes i just installed the newest experimental package
[22:25] <linelevel> But I can't figure out why it hangs like that and forces me to yank the drive without a safe ejection. Can anyone help?
[22:25] <Rori> new arch distros package UEFI stuff that isn't backwards compat with EFI
[22:25] <Valduare> hi guys - what is the ubuntu mac iso?
[22:26] <daftykins> it's ubuntu for macs
[22:26] <CookiesRgooD> hey guys
[22:26] <CookiesRgooD> smashing my head here
[22:26] <CookiesRgooD> if anyone can help me
[22:26] <CookiesRgooD> much appreciated
[22:26] <daftykins> CookiesRgooD: please ask on one line
[22:26] <daftykins> press enter less
[22:27] <CookiesRgooD> i have a chromebook running xubuntu 12.04.01 lts. I cant seem to get the trackpad working. and my bad.
[22:27] <daftykins> CookiesRgooD: that's pretty outdated, it's up to 12.04.4 now
[22:27] <CookiesRgooD> oh yea
[22:28] <SpartanS63> ActionParsnip: I'm back, but I have error messages now on this kernel.
[22:28] <SpartanS63> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[22:28] <CookiesRgooD> my apologies. i have 12.04.3
[22:29] <Valduare> blah lost irc heh - ok so i have a macbook pro 7.1 if I use the ubuntu mac iso it should have everything working out of the box?
[22:30] <terraformer> Hey guys, does anybody know how to update ALSA drivers? I need a little help. I used a script to update them and it looks like it downgraded my drivers :S :D
[22:30] <ikonia> the sound card drivers are part of the kernel
[22:30] <CookiesRgooD> i attempted at saucy as well. my trackpad worked after some fiddling. i did the same on 12 and it doesn't work. i'm not quite sure how to go about it. i tried updating my kernel to 3.11 - with no luck. Any thoughts out there?
[22:30] <sneck> hey gotta quastion, while encrypting ubuntu, does it need time while the installation?
[22:32] <terraformer> ikonia, don't tell me that I may have messed up the kernel somehow!?
[22:32] <ikonia> depends what your script does.
[22:33] <Cork> how do one restart crond in ubuntu?
[22:35] <daftykins> CookiesRgooD: i would have thought all the ubuntu on chromebook websites would have some info - have you searched about your exact model much?
[22:35] <CookiesRgooD> yep
[22:35] <CookiesRgooD> i have
[22:36] <CookiesRgooD> just no luck.
[22:37] <overratedsnowbal> how do i check what version of nfs am i using?
[22:39] <daftykins> CookiesRgooD: i take it you're trying to run 12.04 for its' being LTS?
[22:39] <CookiesRgooD> lol yea.
[22:39] <daftykins> CookiesRgooD: i don't know what to suggest then - does it just not function at all?
[22:40] <CookiesRgooD> daftykins: pretty much
[22:40] <Wiz_KeeD> Any idea how I can check my available disk space on a mounted hard-drive?
[22:40] <nispr0> df -h
[22:42] <anonymous> h'
[22:42] <anonymous> i just satartted
[22:43] <aging_wallpaper> how does thunderbird represent visually whether an email has been deleted from the server?
[22:43] <Valduare> ok so i have a macbook pro 7.1 if I use the ubuntu mac iso it should have everything working out of the box?
[22:44] <sneck> Ive a question:  look, normaly when im installing debian encryptionprocess needs about 7-10 minutes a GB. Now i was installing ubuntu and it didnt even take one second for encrypting! is it encrypting in the backround?
[22:44] <daftykins> CookiesRgooD: ok well maybe ask again in here giving the exact chromebook model #
[22:46] <proteneer> alright i still cant figure out which package contains lkrb5
[22:46] <CookiesRgooD> i have a chromebook Acer C710-2615 running xubuntu 12.04.01 lts. I cant seem to get the trackpad working. and my bad.
[22:46] <michagogo|cloud> Once 12.04.4 is out, how does one go about upgrading from 12.04.3?
[22:46] <CookiesRgooD> damn sry
[22:47] <nispr0> anyonne know how I change the color bar in irssi using putty?
[22:47] <CookiesRgooD> i meant 12.04.3
[22:47] <dougl> where is my software sources config file?
[22:48] <gmachine_24> uhm...... /etc/apt/sources.list....... something like that
[22:48] <dougl> thx
[22:48] <gmachine_24> nispr0 wha tis irssi
[22:48] <gmachine_24> the terminal?
[22:48] <Cork> how do one restart cron in ubuntu? service cron start; /etc/init.d/cron start; apt-get --reinstall install cron
[22:48] <Somelauw_> Hi, I'm trying to change my gtk-settings using lxappearance, but none of the changes I make seems to get saved.
[22:48] <Cork> nothing works...
[22:49] <nispr0> gmachine_24: irc program
[22:49] <gmachine_24> nispr0 because there are color settings on the gui
[22:49] <gmachine_24> oh
[22:49] <gmachine_24> the gui for putty
[22:49] <ejuan> guys, it got my HDMI audio to work on my r7 x260 with xubuntu 12.04. per AMDs  release notes page : http://linux.softpedia.com/progChangelog/ATI-Radeon-Linux-Display-Drivers-Changelog-6719.html  i installed "oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms_0.201402041247~ubuntu12.04.1_all.deb" from https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily/+packages
[22:49] <nispr0> gmachine_24: yeah I have changed theme but when I uses putty I have a big fat light blue bar in the botton and top
[22:49] <Tengis> Anyone know if the udisks process can prevent drives from spinning down if everything in hdparm is correct?
[22:50] <gmachine_24> nispr0 if you are starting the irc software from putty you can change the colors in putty; yeah, I know, those colors are a pain .. royal blue and otherwise
[22:50] <gmachine_24> I go crazy with the backgrounds in the terminals for folders..... no one seems to make them readable by default
[22:50] <Tengis> I've had the hardest time getting my ubuntu nas to spin the drives down how i want them. Something is fighting me and i don't know what it is
[22:51] <gmachine_24> Tengis, maybe it's the devil
[22:51] <Tengis> Sudo kill devil?
[22:51] <Tengis> :p
[22:51] <gmachine_24> Tengis, try this http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Configure-the-server/Spin-down-idle-drives.html
[22:51] <glitsj16> proteneer: you can query apt to search for any file in your installed repos by using .. apt-cache search <regex> .. e.g. apt-cache search krb5*
[22:52] <glitsj16> proteneer: using the * is handy if you're not sure of the exact name of the file your looking for
[22:54] <dougl> I have a 404 error from a ppa I added... can someone help me edit my ppa list to remove it?
[22:54] <gmachine_24> dougl or doug1 post cat /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin.ubuntu.com and then give us the url here
[22:54] <gmachine_24> sorry $cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:55] <PinnacleDawn> i need some help concerning ubuntu
[22:55] <gmachine_24> !ask
[22:55] <gmachine_24> !patience
[22:55] <glitsj16> dougl: ppa-purge is the recommended way, editing doesn't remove/return packages to their former state, it only takes out the reference to the PPA
[22:55] <PinnacleDawn> I'm locked out of my current system i've completely forgotten to password what do i do
[22:56] <gmachine_24> PinnacleDawn: so you want us to hack your install
[22:56] <gmachine_24> :-)
[22:56] <PinnacleDawn> pretty much
[22:56] <PinnacleDawn> how can i do that
[22:57] <mrguest317> Hello
[22:57] <PinnacleDawn> Hi
[22:57] <mrguest317> I have a noob question
[22:57] <gmachine_24> PinnacleDawn: maybe try this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-recover-password-under-ubuntu.html
[22:58] <mrguest317> I'm running a dual boot box with ubuntu and win 7
[22:58] <gmachine_24> !ask
[22:58] <mrguest317> ok sorry
[22:58] <gmachine_24> np :-)
[23:00] <glitsj16> dougl: do you have the name of the PPA in question?
[23:00] <Somelauw_> Hi, I'm trying to change my gtk-settings using lxappearance, but none of the changes I make seems to get saved.
[23:00] <mrguest317> If I'm running a dual boot box and using ubuntu for everything except games (using Win 7 partition for games). I wan to be able to create an additional win7 environment (using VM box) to use for Pen testing, etc.  - Is that possible?
[23:01] <daftykins> mrguest317: of course, i think you mean virtualbox though.
[23:01] <mrguest317> Yes, sorry
[23:01] <overratedsnowbal> is there anyway to check on my server what nfs4 folders i'm exporting, /etc/exports has a location exported but the client is saying it doesn't exist, so i want to check from the server end, how it's visible?
[23:01] <mrguest317> Ok, can I have more than 1 VM running at once?
[23:02] <gmachine_24> mrguest317: I'm pretty sure so, yes
[23:03] <gmachine_24> people run many
[23:03] <daftykins> mrguest317: yep, you're limited by the specifications of your host system
[23:03] <daftykins> mrguest317: mainly RAM
[23:03] <Flat4ForLife> Hello. Anyone have experience with nvidia drivers on a Mac in 13.10?
[23:04] <glitsj16> dougl: if you don't know, open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && ls -lh /etc/apt/sources.list.d | pastebinit  .. that will install pastebinit, an app to easily share info with the channel .. you'll get an url that you can post here when the command finishes
[23:05] <mrguest317> Do you think 6GB ram and i3 processor would support an instance of Backtrack 5 and an instance of Win7 (to infect, pen test) simultaneously?
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> mrguest317  wrong channel
[23:06] <mrguest317> where then?
[23:07] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: can you give some details? what seems to be the trouble with them?
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> mrguest317  try #backtrack
[23:07] <daftykins> backtrack is looooong since dead
[23:07] <mrguest317> ok thanks
[23:07] <daftykins> and replaced anyway
[23:08] <mrguest317> kali linux, I know
[23:08] <daftykins> mrguest317: yeah that's plenty of RAM. give the VM 1GB RAM and fire away
[23:08] <Flat4ForLife> Well I've tried many versions and looked through many solutions online and I cannot get it to work after reboot. It boots me to the login console. I'm on my phone but I can give whatever derails are needed
[23:09] <daftykins> Flat4ForLife + glitsj16 i bet it's an optimus macbook? am i right?
[23:09] <daftykins> (nvidia optimus)
[23:09] <Flat4ForLife> Macbook pro 4,1 with GeForce 8600M GT
[23:09] <daftykins> oh, nah sounds older then
[23:09] <PinnacleDawn> ok i did what it said in the article but now my system wont reboot i typed the command and booted up and theres just a flashing underscore on the screen
[23:09] <Flat4ForLife> I'm not sure what that is honestly (new to ubuntu)
[23:10] <Flat4ForLife> It's a few years old yes
[23:10] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: first, like daftykins said, we need to confirm what exactly you have onboard. can you pastebin from your phone?
[23:10] <dougl> glitsj16, http://ppa.launchpad.net/danielrichter2007/grub-customizer/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[23:10] <Flat4ForLife> Sure.
[23:11] <glitsj16> dougl: looking, give me a few
[23:11] <Wiz_KeeD> Any idea how I can check my available disk space on a mounted hard-drive?
[23:12] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: open a terminal and run: lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A 2 and post it somewhere so we can see, paste.ubuntu.com or whatever you like
[23:12] <overratedsnowbal> rhys@cherry:~$ sudo mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 tomato:/mnt/ufs/movies /mnt/movies
[23:12] <overratedsnowbal> mount.nfs4: mounting tomato:/mnt/ufs/movies failed, reason given by server: No such file or directory
[23:12] <overratedsnowbal> rhys@cherry:~$ showmount -e tomato
[23:12] <overratedsnowbal> Export list for tomato:
[23:12] <overratedsnowbal> /mnt/ufs/movies     *
[23:12] <Somelauw_> Wiz_KeeD: du
[23:12] <Somelauw_> Wiz_KeeD: df
[23:13] <overratedsnowbal> what do I try next?
[23:13] <Flat4ForLife> OK give me a sec to type it out
[23:13] <petey> anyone have any idea how I can run a "git pull" over SSH
[23:13] <glitsj16> dougl: that's a trusty PPA you have there .. are you on 14.04?
[23:13] <Wiz_KeeD> WOW 87% occupied?
[23:13] <Somelauw_> petey: just run it
[23:13] <petey> It doesn't work, it hangs somelauw_
[23:13] <k1l_> Wiz_KeeD: what is with that answer to your question that was already given to you?
[23:13] <Wiz_KeeD> oh no wait, it shows globally
[23:14] <dougl> glitsj16, yes
[23:14] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: no rush, you can also install pastebinit, very easy to post stuff, we're gonna need a few info trips so that might be handy
[23:14] <PinnacleDawn> did anyone here my problem
[23:14] <Wiz_KeeD> /dev/sdb1      732572668 61177980 671394688   9% /mnt/caddy - So I take it I am occupying only 9% of this drive?
[23:14] <glitsj16> dougl: the problem is that the PPA doesn't have a grub-customizer yet for trusty
[23:15] <k1l_> Wiz_KeeD: please re read the output. the collums are labeld
[23:15] <Wiz_KeeD> k1l_, well my hard-drive is mounted on mnt/caddy
[23:15] <Flat4ForLife> Would this command give the same info from the Mac side since I can't boot into the Ubuntu one?
[23:15] <Wiz_KeeD> a 750gb hdd
[23:15] <glitsj16> dougl: ask in #ubuntu+1 how to proceed, people there test trusty on a daily basis, they'll know
[23:16] <k1l_> Wiz_KeeD: again. read the output in your terminal
[23:16] <tongcx> hi guys, when i tried to install irssi, error "libperl5.14 : Depends: perl-base (= 5.14.2-6ubuntu2.2) but 5.14.2-6ubuntu2.3 is to be installed", what do i do?
[23:16] <Somelauw_> Wiz_KeeD: look below Use%
[23:16] <Flat4ForLife> Just so I can pastebin the stuff?
[23:16] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: probably not, hmm, can you boot into a ubuntu liveUSB on the machine?
[23:16] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/8699471
[23:16] <gmachine_24> PinnacleDawn: did you read this https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/how-do-i-recover-or-change-my-password/
[23:17] <k1l_> Wiz_KeeD: so what do you think does "use%" mean?
[23:17] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: make a paste yes, we'll see how it looks and what we can do to get the correct info
[23:17] <Wiz_KeeD> k1l_, Used disk space?
[23:17] <Somelauw_> Wiz_KeeD: below use it says you used 9% of /mnt/caddy
[23:17] <k1l_> Wiz_KeeD: yes
[23:17] <Wiz_KeeD> isn't that what I just said?
[23:17] <Wiz_KeeD> :-s
[23:17]  * Wiz_KeeD confused
[23:18] <Flat4ForLife> I can try, it's a PITA on a Mac haha hang on
[23:18] <daftykins> glitsj16: just a heads up, looking up the model they're core 2 duos so too early got on-die graphics. i would expect it is indeed solely 8600M GT and so maybe a too new driver went on to support it
[23:18] <daftykins> s/got/for/
[23:18] <dougl> glitsj16, thanks
[23:18] <glitsj16> dougl: basically 2 options i guess .. either change the PPA to 'saucy' instead of trusty or just wait till it offers one for trusty
[23:19] <dougl> glitsj16, that is what I was thinking
[23:19] <PinnacleDawn> I thought the people here are supposed to help you guys should know how to recover a passoword, im not trying to log into unbuntu one
[23:19] <Somelauw_> Hi, I'm trying to change my gtk-settings using lxappearance, but none of the changes I make seems to get saved.
[23:19] <glitsj16> daftykins: thanks, i don't know much about those older macs, but that should make it easier for Flat4ForLife
[23:19] <daftykins> :)
[23:20] <rostam> Hi I have created a deb pkgs which once a while when I want to upgrade it I get the following error: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct". I have not done any thing that could cause interruption. Is there anyway I can get more information on what has gone wrong? thx
[23:21] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: okay, we'll wait a bit for the output, but thanks to daftykins you might be with a working driver pretty soon
[23:21] <Somelauw_> PinnacleDawn: You can  recover the password by logging in with secure mode and to reset the password from there.
[23:22] <gmachine_24> PinnacleDawn: I gave you links to how-tos on recovering your password and you never responded.
[23:22] <Flat4ForLife> The live USB won't work, I'll just have to type it
[23:22] <gmachine_24> Before I gave you the one that starts at ubuntu one you have to do something
[23:22] <glitsj16> dougl: i don't know for sure the saucy version will work correct, but you can always ppa-purge it when it doesn't .. so not that much risk involved, but ask around, i never used it
[23:23] <PinnacleDawn> i did what it said in the first link and it only briefly booted my operating system there was just a blinking undersscore on the screen
[23:23] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: well, nothing to be done about that, we'll see how it goes on the fly
[23:24] <PinnacleDawn> im having to boot into previous versions of my operating system to get it to work at all now
[23:24] <gmachine_24> PinnacleDawn: so your computer boots normally to the sign-in screen and you've just forgotten your password?
[23:25] <overratedsnowbal> can anyone help me troubleshoot my nfs connection please
[23:25] <overratedsnowbal> overratedsnowball@cherry:~$ sudo mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 tomato:/mnt/ufs/movies /mnt/movies
[23:25] <overratedsnowbal> mount.nfs4: mounting tomato:/mnt/ufs/movies failed, reason given by server: No such file or directory
[23:25] <PinnacleDawn> my computer boots as the terminal
[23:25] <overratedsnowbal> overratedsnowball@cherry:~$ showmount -e tomato
[23:25] <overratedsnowbal> Export list for tomato:
[23:25] <overratedsnowbal> /mnt/ufs/movies     *
[23:26] <PinnacleDawn> at least it used to i was going to ask you how to fix that after id gotten my password back
[23:26] <PinnacleDawn> but now it doesnt boot at all
[23:26] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: so you can't do anything on the ubuntu right now? if so we can make a paste with instructions, it's probably best to purge all things nvidia you tried and start afresh..
[23:27] <gmachine_24> PinnacleDawn: can you boot into a recovery mode
[23:27] <PinnacleDawn> but i can get it to work if i go too boot perious versions but i still dont have my passowrd
[23:27] <lifebird64> does gnome-keyring have some sort of maximum passphrase length? I have an RSA keypair where my passphrase works fine via ssh-agent/ssh-add on the command line, but gnome-keyring keeps me in a loop as if I've entered the wrong passphrase. I admit my passphrase is a little long but not exceesively so.
[23:27] <PinnacleDawn> and what do i do from there
[23:28] <Flat4ForLife> That's right, can't boot into it normally at all, just recovery.  Heres the paste from the last command you asked http://paste.ubuntu.com/6875922/
[23:28] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: okay, recovery could be enough, having a look
[23:29] <Flat4ForLife> I have no Ethernet atm so I can't do networking stuff without a GUI to tether to my phone
[23:29] <gmachine_24> Does someone have an absolute dead-set how-to for mr pinnacledawn; I have not used this one but this is the general idea http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[23:30] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: nvidia driver looks installed .. but we can't be sure what version it is, are you usig a PPA for nvidia?
[23:31] <Flat4ForLife> That's the last one I installed from, x-edgers or whatever
[23:32] <Flat4ForLife> Again, I'm new to this so pardon me if I don't know the lingo
[23:32] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: if you can type over a few commands that should give us what we need .. ah, xorg-edgers, so likely the very latest 331.20 or 331.38 then .. can you boot into recovery and give output of: sudo dkms status please
[23:32] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: quite allright, we'll take it one step at a time
[23:33] <gmachine_24> PinnacleDawn: recovering a password in Ubuntu is problematic for many reasons which is why there is no easy answer; you might want to read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2184068&highlight=recover+lost+password
[23:34] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: looking for the nvidia version # and confirmation that it installed okay, if it says anything else besides 'Installed' at the end of the line, please tell us
[23:35] <Flat4ForLife> Here's a pic, kinda long http://www.picpaste.com/20140204_163407-TnkqUPHk.jpg
[23:35] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: okay, pics help :)
[23:37] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: okay so it didn't build correctly, like it said on the screen, you were in a read-only system when it tried, but that can't write anything so it failed
[23:37] <Flat4ForLife> I could have messed things up with how many different solutions I have tried
[23:37] <gmachine_24> ........ which is why you have several back ups, right? :-)
[23:37] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: i don't think many get it from the first try, i know i didn't .. no problem
[23:37] <Flat4ForLife> Lol its a new install so no not really haha
[23:38] <Flat4ForLife> So how do I get it in r/w mode?
[23:39] <PinnacleDawn> ok now when i go to boot my ubuntu it says "could not write bytes: Broken Pipe"
[23:40] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: first we'll need to know what drive it is: lsblk .. and look for /dev/sdX (the X being a number) .. as you can't paste you'll have to go ov er the list i'm afraid
[23:41] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: after we know what to mount rw it gets easier
[23:42] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: or take another snap of the screen with the output of the command
[23:42] <Abel> Hello
[23:42] <Abel> I need help with ubuntu
[23:42] <Abel> anyone here?
[23:43] <Flat4ForLife> Main partition is sda3 ,swap is 4
[23:43] <Abel> I'm trying to install ubuntu and encrypt the entire hard disk, but I can't seem to get the option to encrypt the hard disk
[23:43] <Abel> the options doesn't show up
[23:44] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: okay: sudo mount -o remount, rw /dev/sda3
[23:44] <gmachine_24> PinnacleDawn: does that mean you reset your password
[23:44] <Abel> All I see is "Erase Ubuntu" and "Sometime else", there's no option to encrypt
[23:44] <gmachine_24> Abei - it's during set up usually
[23:44] <gmachine_24> i.e. the install
[23:44] <Abel> yes, I'm in the setup
[23:45] <Flat4ForLife> You must specificy the file system type
[23:45] <Flat4ForLife> Is what it says
[23:45] <Abel> under "Installation Type" I don't see the option to encrypt
[23:45] <gmachine_24> Abei are you installing on a system that already has an ubuntu install
[23:45] <Somelauw_> Hi, I'm trying to change my gtk-settings using lxappearance, but none of the changes I make seems to get saved.
[23:45] <gmachine_24> !ask
[23:45] <Abel> Yes, it already has ubuntu
[23:45] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: ok: sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda3 /
[23:46] <gmachine_24> Abei well that's what it is asking. if you want to erase that
[23:46] <gmachine_24> one step at a time
[23:46] <glitsj16> mind the syntax and spaces etc
[23:46] <Flat4ForLife> Ah, stupid spaces
[23:46] <Flat4ForLife> Ok
[23:46] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: no errors or questions this time?
[23:46] <Flat4ForLife> Nope
[23:47] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: next step: sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[23:47] <Abel> Yes, but even after I erase the old ubuntu, I just goes and procedes to installing ubuntu, still doesn't let me encrypt hard disk
[23:48] <Flat4ForLife> It was 304 version, just an FYI. OK they are purged
[23:49] <gmachine_24> Abel: so you don't see this https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/11/privacy-ubuntu-1210-full-disk-encryption what version of ubuntu are you installing
[23:49] <Abel> No, I only see the first and last option
[23:50] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: ok, good to know, we'll better check what you can actually install: apt-cache policy nvidia* .. that'll be a longer list, we're looking for the highest numbered package called nvidia-xxx, so you can disregard the rest of the output
[23:51] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: take your time for this, or we run the risk of having to start again heh
[23:51] <Flat4ForLife> 313 updates seems to be the latest
[23:51] <Flat4ForLife> How can I do a page output
[23:51] <Abel> gmachine_24 what do you think it could be?
[23:52] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: no 319 in sight? what do you mean by page output?
[23:52] <gmachine_24> Abel: what version of ubuntu are you using
[23:52] <Flat4ForLife> Page by page since the list is so long
[23:53] <Abel> 12.04.3 LTS
[23:53] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: ow we won't need the whole list, i've checked on packages.ubuntu.com what versions are available for 13.10
[23:54] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: to check: apt-cache policy nvidia-331
[23:54] <Flat4ForLife> OK there's just versions that I can't see
[23:54] <digs> Can anyone give me advice on moving to 13 from 12 for my AWS server? Is it a smart move/
[23:54] <Flat4ForLife> Can't locate that one it says
[23:54] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: yes, we'll test a few of the latest one so we should get it
[23:54] <gmachine_24> Abel: it's available on the alternate install and should be available to encrypt the version you have but only the home drive
[23:54] <digs> The server is only running apache, varnish and memcache. - It's sole function is a web server.
[23:55] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: good, apt-cache policy nvidia-319
[23:55] <Jabo> digs: then why upgrade?
[23:55] <digs> That is my question heh.
[23:55] <gmachine_24> Abel: I guess I meant the home partition :-)
[23:55] <Flat4ForLife> Found that one, 319.31
[23:55] <Flat4ForLife> 32 sorry
[23:55] <digs> I don't see a reason, but it is there and I am about to deploy this as a replacement for my current VPS solution.
[23:56] <gmachine_24>  that is the /home partition
[23:56] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: great, that's the one we'll be installing again: sudo apt-get install nvidia-319 .. and let the command run, can take a few, it should build the driver module
[23:56] <Jabo> digs: if it's 12.04 then I don't see a point in upgrade as you have long term update support etc
[23:57] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: if you see the command doing anything wonky or erroring out, tell us so
[23:57] <Flat4ForLife> I have no Ethernet ATM (I know, horrible troubleshooting. But at work)  is there a way to connect using USB or wifi to my phone through command prompt?
[23:58] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: we will ask the channel for help on that one, i am terrible with that :)
[23:58] <Flat4ForLife> Or possibly get back to nouveau and use the GUI to connect?
[23:58] <Somelauw_> what happened to gksudo?
[23:59] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: that should work yes, so Ctrl+C the install if you started it and reboot
[23:59] <Flat4ForLife> I think not, seeing as how my ifconfig shows no wlan interface
[23:59] <Abel> thanks man, will download the alt version
[23:59] <Flat4ForLife> OK how can I force it to use nouveau?