valorieanybody thinking about being a mentor or student in gsoc this year?00:00
Quintasanvalorie: I want to apply as a student.00:45
valoriewhatcha gonna do?00:46
Quintasanvalorie: Virtually no idea, is there a KDE project list?00:47
valoriethey are just starting to build up the list00:47
QuintasanWill be monitoring that then00:47
valoriebut surely you can do something with "us" KDE & Kubuntu00:47
valoriewhat sort of projects excite you?00:48
Quintasanvalorie: From my perspective if I contribute to KDE then Kubuntu benefits from it indirectly, if we have a "joint" project then it's even better00:50
Quintasanvalorie: Hell if I know. For some time I wanted to work on Amarok since I find it good but it's sometimes highly annoying00:50
Quintasanlike I wanted to mass edit tags and Amarok does in in interface thread which makes the whole UI freeze until it's done00:51
valorieyou might want to join or at least read the amarok-devel list archives then00:52
QuintasanThough at that point I realised we are probably in need of a good mp3 tag editor since I couldn't find one.00:52
valoriethe amarok devels are picky about students after we had a few flakey ones00:52
* valorie uses picard00:52
QuintasanStill that could use fixing. Doing stuff in interface thread doesnt seem like a good idea to me00:52
Quintasanvalorie: Ain't that GTK?00:53
valorieso if you are interested, start fixing some bugs, hang out in the channel, etc.00:53
valorienot sure 00:53
valorieit works, so I use it00:53
valorieoops, dinner time....00:53
Quintasanvalorie: Enjoy, it's sleep time for me though. 2 in the morning00:54
valoriesweet dreams, Quintasan00:54
ahoneybunmhall119, hey I hear that the meeting did not go well yesterday02:50
ahoneybunapachelogger, ping02:50
mhall119ahoneybun: which meeting?02:58
ahoneybunfl loco02:58
mhall119oh, it just didn't happen03:02
mhall119I was still at a sprint, itnet7 wasn't home, and Freenode was generally having a bad day03:02
ahoneybunyea I heard03:03
apachelogger void Module::emitDiff()08:05
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apacheloggerRiddell: updating my workstatin to trusty, if I don't return anymore it's likely because something broke in the uefi boot department *scared*09:46
apacheloggeryou know09:48
apacheloggerI think we should just use the kde wikis for all of our documentation :P09:48
apacheloggerit's not like we have a lot of that anyway09:48
apacheloggerI cannot log in with the moinmoin :@09:49
Riddellhmm, try loggin into wiki.ubuntu.com?09:50
apacheloggerdoing that right now09:50
apacheloggeralas, slow ^^09:50
apacheloggerdoesn't work either apparently09:51
apacheloggeroh now09:51
apacheloggerRiddell: works -.-09:51
Riddellapachelogger: do you want send a grump to rt@ or shall I?09:52
apacheloggerRiddell: first try to confirm please09:52
apacheloggermay entirely be due to ongoing upgrade, though that'd be odd09:52
Riddellapachelogger: I get it too and I remember getting it last week09:52
apacheloggerRiddell: ok, feel free to send that grumpy mail then09:55
lordievaderGood morning.09:57
Riddellapachelogger: should be linked to from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu ?09:57
apacheloggerI guess09:57
apacheloggerRiddell: and ninjas09:57
apacheloggersince it's mostly for internal reference09:58
Riddellapachelogger: is there value in lots of separate pages? wouldn't all on one page be easier?09:58
apacheloggerRiddell: define easier09:58
Riddelleasier to read, easier to maintain09:58
apacheloggerRiddell: perhaps to maintain, certainly not to read though IMO09:58
apacheloggerlarge pages always end up being a major mess09:59
apacheloggerI'll start from one page ifyou prefer09:59
apacheloggercan still move it to subs if/when needed09:59
RiddellDarkwing_: did you get hold of this account? https://twitter.com/kubuntu10:01
Riddellshadeslayer: is 4.12.2 ready for kubuntu to announce?10:21
Riddellhmm guess not10:24
apacheloggerRiddell: do we still use ~kubuntu-testers ~kubuntu-updates-testing?10:28
soee4.12.2 is in ninjas ? for trusty 10:35
Riddellapachelogger: no I don't think so10:35
Riddellsoee: yes10:35
soeeok will install it :)10:36
apacheloggerRiddell: you might want to delete them then :P10:37
soeestrange, have no updates :)10:38
soeeah sorry didne upnocmment ppa10:39
yofel_4.12.2 works fine for me so far10:43
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yofelI'm curious why that Hibernate button is back in my kickoff though10:43
yofelsomething really strange is going on with upower/whatever here10:44
* apachelogger shivers10:49
apacheloggeryofel: shadeslayer patched something to bring it back I think10:49
* apachelogger doesn't find the documentation on kubuntu-dev -.-10:52
apacheloggeroh well10:52
apacheloggergoing for a reboot10:52
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apacheloggermeanwhile I forgot why I was upgrading to begin with11:03
apacheloggermy oh my11:03
BluesKaj'Morning folks11:12
apacheloggerour patch policy is actually very elaborate11:41
apacheloggerPatches adding more than 200 source lines of code, or more than 4 functions, or requiring public API changes must be done upstream, unless they are 100% necessary for Kubuntu, and would cause malfunction or bugs if not applied (language-pack integration would be such a case).11:42
apacheloggersomehow I get the feeling that when I wrote the first draft that line ended after upstream ^^11:43
mamarleyRiddell: You mentioned yesterday that I could become a tester for the Kubuntu Ninjas PPA?12:12
Riddellmamarley: ooh yes12:12
Riddelland ISOs12:12
Riddelland lots of things :)12:12
mamarleyThat sounds great!12:12
apacheloggerRiddell: testing in ninjas is done by ninjas, any public testing ought to be conducated in either the staging PPA or the experimental PPA :P12:13
Riddellapachelogger: you and your policy hat :)12:13
shadeslayerRiddell: script was taking ETOOLONG last night12:13
shadeslayerso I let it run and went to sleep12:13
shadeslayersigning and uploading now12:13
Riddellshadeslayer: uploading to trusty -proposed?12:13
apacheloggerRiddell: in fact the policy line I wrote on that is less precise, so you have leeway ;)12:14
apacheloggerRequirements: Trusted enough to not break PPAs and produce good enough quality for ~kubuntu-dev to approve for an archive upload. 12:14
Riddellapachelogger: testing from ninjas just needs the details for archive apt access, no write possible12:14
apacheloggerah, that is true12:15
Riddellnow, how do I edit ubottu things?12:15
apacheloggerI keep forgetting ^^12:15
apacheloggerquery help?12:15
Riddellquery doesn't seem to do anything12:15
Riddellubottu: help12:16
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:16
Riddellhmm, it is working12:16
* Riddell discovers http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi12:17
RiddellTm_T: can you add mamarley to !testers factoid?12:18
Riddellmamarley: we also need help testing 12.04 LTS updates today12:19
mamarleyI would love to help, but I am a bit short on spare boxes...12:20
Riddellvirtualbox is your friend :)12:20
shadeslayerapachelogger: btw thoughts  on implementing debconf frontend for k-d-m ?12:20
shadeslayerRiddell: 4.12.2 all uploaded12:20
shadeslayerRiddell: can you upload kde-workspace 12:21
Riddellshadeslayer: from ninjas?12:21
shadeslayeror well, I can do that, nvm12:21
apacheloggershadeslayer: ?12:23
shadeslayerhurray lazr.restfulclient.errors.ServerError: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error12:23
apacheloggerqapt does that somehow12:23
shadeslayerapachelogger: I don't think so12:25
shadeslayerat the very least qapt-deb-installer and muon implement them in the ui12:26
shadeslayerand I did not find a call to Debconf classes inside the library itself12:26
apacheloggerwell yes12:32
apacheloggeryou implement them in the ui :P12:32
apacheloggerkind of the point of a ui ^^12:32
mamarleyI just installed 4.12.2 and 4.11.6 and everything seems to be working fine so far!12:46
shadeslayerapachelogger: right, so does it make sense to implement it in k-d-m since a driver might have a EULA13:36
apacheloggersuppose so13:51
shadeslayerhave a clue on how to proceed? ( I've had a look at the muon code, but only vaguely understand it13:55
* shadeslayer has no todo for today :S13:55
apacheloggershadeslayer: ask apol i guess13:57
soeehmm, will have to install 4.12.2 again 14:20
shadeslayersoee: why?14:21
soeei had proposed repository activ and today before 4.12 i have installed some xserver related upgrades and it broke my system :/14:22
soeeso im after fresh 14.04 installation, the good news is14:22
soeenvidia-prime now works perfect so i can forget about this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/127482214:23
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1274822 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1274822). The error has been logged14:23
soeebtw i just love how all looks and works just as it was before fresh installation14:23
soeeso when i boot fresh system even amarok started to play song i was listing to :D14:24
soeebtw someone can send me ninjas ppa ?14:25
shadeslayersoee: 4.12.2 has been uploaded to archive14:25
shadeslayerjust wait for it to be built :)14:26
soeeok than :)14:26
Riddellshadeslayer: what's the driver manager here? http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=2014020314:35
shadeslayerRiddell: the mint one afaik14:36
* Riddell blogs http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=13614:38
shadeslayerRiddell: plz upload libkomparediff215:06
Riddellshadeslayer: from bzr?15:07
shadeslayerjust run kubuntu-archive-upload -p libkomparediff2 -other -arguments15:08
* shadeslayer is waiting for apachelogger to turn up15:08
Riddelluploaded libkomparediff215:10
shadeslayerRiddell: thx15:19
yossarianukhave kubuntu decided on using kde 4.13 in 14.04 ?15:44
Riddellno decision yet but I'm leaning towards 4.13 quite strongly now after discussing it at fosdem with people15:44
yossarianukRiddell: yey !15:45
yossarianukas a user I would prefer it...15:45
yossarianukevery version of KDE is just that little bit better than the last...15:45
Riddellwith baloo instead of nepomuk it's probably quite a lot better15:46
Riddell!testers | 12.04.4 images up for testing!15:47
ubottu12.04.4 images up for testing!: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley  for information15:47
Riddelland there they are :)15:47
* mamarley digs up his oldlaptop.15:48
mamarleyRiddell: Do you mean these images: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/precise/daily-live/pending/ ?15:55
Riddellmamarley: see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/precise/daily-live/20140204/16:19
Riddellmamarley: no better see http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/311/builds16:19
Riddellyour URL is fine too16:20
mamarleyRiddell: Is it specifically the alternate image or is the desktop image OK to test too?16:22
Riddellmamarley: yes they all need testing16:26
mamarleyOK, thanks!16:26
yossarianuki'll be happy to test a UEFI install of 14.04 is that can help (when its closer to being released)16:33
yossarianuk13.10 had issues... (the iso still does if you do not have a network connection during install)16:33
BluesKajubiquity in 14.04 found my wifi connection during the install, cool feature16:35
mamarleyI got a failure on the 12.04.4 live image.  The Intel 4965 WiFi card doesn't work.  dmesg looks OK, but Network-Manager says that the interface is unavailable.16:48
* mamarley == idiot, sorry.16:50
mamarleyI had the RFKILL switch on.16:50
Riddellhah :)16:53
mamarleyRiddell: Once I get it (12.04) installed, I have some severe problems with kwin compositing (the screen only updates when the mouse is clicked).  Would that be a bug in kwin or in nouveau/mesa/etc?17:21
mamarleyAlso, is there any special way to file bugs for these prerelease images?17:22
Riddellmamarley: report on launchpad as normal and report on the iso tracker17:23
RiddellI would be tempted to blame something below KDE but then I always do :)17:23
shadeslayermamarley: preferably file one with ubuntu-bug17:25
Riddellhoorah my reviewboard list is down to 0!17:27
mamarleyLet me see if I can get composite disabled so I can use the system...17:30
lordievadermamarley: alt + shift + f1217:31
mamarleyYep, thanks!17:33
shadeslayeragateau: ping17:33
shadeslayeragateau: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Fgarg%2Fkcm-driver-manager.git&a=blob&h=15339f1521161747fb67f0f58eb804d0d5e3810f&hb=e09010fd276010c682fc20a56d61b68a6873bd44&f=src%2FModule.cpp%20%3E%3E%20quickgquickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch/garg/kcm-driver-manager.git&a=blob&h=15339f1521161747fb67f0f58eb804d0d5e3810f&hb=e09010fd276010c682fc20a56d61b68a6873bd44&f=src/Module.cpp << Line 142 doesn't actually trigger the dialog17:34
agateaushadeslayer: pong17:34
mamarleyI don't know much about the FOSS graphics stack with Nouveau.  Should I file the bug in the Linux kernel or in Mesa or what?17:35
shadeslayermamarley: I'd just file it against Nouveau and let the X people sort it out17:35
shadeslayeragateau: know what I'm doing wrong?17:36
agateaushadeslayer: mmm, looks like it should work to me. Just in case, have you tried moving the animatedHide() from line 134 to line 14517:36
shadeslayerlemme try17:37
sgclarkI am trying to learn testing via https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough but when I click launch in testdrive after sync, nothing happens. I have virtualbox installed and selected in preferences.17:37
shadeslayeragateau: interesting, that works17:38
mamarleyWhoa, that's screwy.  It apparently automatically installed (a very old version of) the nvidia blob during installation.17:38
agateaushadeslayer: probably a bug when calling animatedHide() and animatedShow() in a row :/17:38
shadeslayerI'll try and write a test case tomorrow17:38
shadeslayeragateau: same issue on line 17617:40
agateaushadeslayer: same fix?17:41
lordievadersgclark: I'm not really sure, but isn't test-drive a program that zsyncs the iso and boots virtualbox with the iso? If so, you can also do it manually. That is how I do it.17:42
shadeslayeragateau: I don't see how the same fix can apply ;)17:42
agateaushadeslayer: looks like you need to fix KMessageWidget17:42
agateauanimatedShow should cancel any animatedHide, and vice-versa17:43
sgclarklordievader: yeah I believe that is its function, will do it manually then.17:43
shadeslayeragateau: I'll have a look tomorrow17:43
* agateau has to go17:44
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soee_ok so 4.12.2 are already in updates ? :)17:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: ping18:13
shadeslayersoee_: huh?18:13
shadeslayersoee_: I certainly hope not18:13
shadeslayerapachelogger: waiting for instructions on how to generate tar with pot18:15
soee_shadeslayer: hmm i can't remember now but few hours ago maub apachelogger said they are building18:25
shadeslayersoee_: 4.12.2 in staging for saucy and precise18:25
soee_im @trusty :)18:25
shadeslayertrusty is in the archive18:26
soee_ah now i see: <shadeslayer> soee: 4.12.2 has been uploaded to archive18:26
soee_shadeslayer: what does it means in archive ?18:27
sgclarkI thought we were shipping 14.04 with firefox18:33
Riddellsgclark: that's the plan yes18:37
sgclarkRiddell: ok so saying it is easily installablle on the slideshow would be considered a bug?18:38
sgclarkRiddell: I am testing daily, or learning anyway18:38
Riddellwasn't shadeslayer fixing that?18:39
Riddellhe was playing with firefox icons recently18:39
Riddellbut yes, it would18:39
shadeslayerI sent a MR18:39
shadeslayerwaiting for approval18:39
shadeslayersee trello18:39
Riddelloh probably something I should look at18:40
shadeslayerwould be nice, yes :)18:40
sgclarkok, that looks to be it18:40
Riddellbut meh, got a soar throat! want ice cream18:40
* shadeslayer throws some strepsils at Riddell18:40
Riddellthanks, I finished the packet I had18:42
soeei have installed updates and do reboot, on login screen and now in system all fonts are like 8px oO18:49
soeehmm, i changed to 12px  in system settings, logout, login, and now fonts where like much bigger .. to big :/ again system settings and bring back 10px, logout, login and finally they are fine18:53
shadeslayerRiddell: plz upload http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/kubuntu-driver-manager/kubuntu-driver-manager_14.04ubuntu1.orig.tar.xz18:57
shadeslayeroh wait18:57
shadeslayerRiddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/kubuntu-driver-manager/kubuntu-driver-manager_14.04ubuntu1.dsc18:58
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shadeslayerRiddell: poke poke?19:06
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shadeslayerapachelogger: poke poke19:42
* v yawns, waking from a 5 year nap19:43
vwould someone provide the linky to the build environment stuff (setting it up etc...)19:44
shadeslayerv: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment19:47
vthanke shadeslayer 19:48
ScottKapachelogger: Accepted the new Muon for 13.10 SRU.20:27
apacheloggerScottK: thx20:33
apacheloggershadeslayer: can't upload, not at home20:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: :(20:56
shadeslayerapachelogger: anyway, released K-D-M20:57
shadeslayerapachelogger: would be cool if you could review and upload later on and then Riddell can accepty21:01
Riddellshadeslayer: yay23:31

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