[00:10] <dougl> hey fellas and gals - my 13.10 is pooched and I am hobbling along in 14.04 can anyone help me with a  ppa I am having issues with?
[00:11] <dougl> ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer
[00:13] <Beldar> dougl, Does it have a trusty release in the ppa?
[00:15] <dougl> no... but I know it works and lost contact with my irc source running an earlier version with 14.04 with no issue Beldar ...
[00:15] <Beldar> I only see up to saucy packages in that ppa, what you do in that customizer can be done manually so....etc
[00:15] <dougl> I was wondering if someone could hlep me edit the sources file?
[00:16] <Beldar> dougl, sources.list or sources.list.d and what exactly is needed?
[00:16] <dougl> the source for the saucy release
[00:17] <Beldar> dougl, To use in trusty, be specific here including end goals and what you do not understand.
[00:18] <Beldar> dougl, Do you understand that 14.04 is a development as of now, and is not included in many PPA's as of now, and that PPA's are technically not supported to some extant.
[00:20] <dougl> Beldar, I did the command at... appologies - I know I am  trying to get along with a failing box and was hoping for compassion, did not mean to waste your time.
[00:21] <dougl> I can wait til april winter lasts 10 months here in canada where we help each other - LOL
[00:22] <Beldar> dougl, I may be able to help you, there are just some parameters that are needed to make sure we are communicating. Details are the first, and your abulity to reflect on whether your goals are in a logical line.
[00:25] <dougl> my goal is to change the resolution and background of my grub menu then correct a booting issue with my 13.10 then the issue... and I know saucy works so want to edit the ppa resulting in 404 error to use saucy source - does that make sense?
[01:27] <eligos> hi. is this dist-upgrade normal??? https://gist.github.com/thermosilla/8815861
[01:28] <eligos> basically, it will remove almost all xserver packages
[05:06] <roasted> hello friends
[05:06] <roasted> random thought, has there been anything spoken about gvfs in terms of the new file manager/unity 8 discussions?
[07:23] <kereltis> Hi guys
[07:25] <kereltis> I updates 14.04 with the latest kernal update but unity is now broken. AMD open and proprietary drivers. I can log in but with a blank desktop.
[07:28] <kereltis> I've tested it on a desktop with AMD proprietary drivers and a laptop with AMD open drivers but unity is broken on both.
[07:29] <kblin> not running unity, can't help there
[07:31] <kereltis> No worries
[07:51] <bazhang> !info eclipse
[11:12] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:02] <damascene> Hi, keyboard layout switching is not working in screen lock after I locked the machine
[12:26] <Daekdroom> So... is compiz not working for anyone else?
[13:16] <obsidian> Alright, so I'm using 14.04 and installed some updates last night. After the install, I was prompted to re-boot. No big deal, right? Well, I re-booted and logged in as normal but got a blank desktop (no launcher, or menu bars) just a couple of stray files on the desktop which I'd created a couple days ago. I opened up a Terminal and tried re-setting Unity (~$ unity --reset) and some other commands I found on google (i.e., ~$dconf
[13:16] <obsidian> reset -f /org/compiz/) but nothing worked. If you could try to picture someone pinching an imaginary penny that's how close I came to re-installing Ubuntu and rolling back to 13.10 --BUT-- miraculously just a half hour ago I right clicked on the desktop clicked 'Change Desktop Background' which gave me access to all of my System Settings including System Details which has a button to 'Check/Install Updates.' I thought what the hey
[13:16] <obsidian>  and figured maybe the developers had fixed the problem, and sure enough all it took was a quick update and my system is working fine again. I know this is a mouthfull and no idea how helpful it is but in case anyone has similar problems with Unity in 14.04 after installing updates, just right-click on the deskop and use the 'Change Desktop Background' to access your system settings and then install the LATEST updates which will h
[13:16] <obsidian> ave your system back up & running. Like I said, no idea how helpful this is, no doubt most of you are fairly advanced but if you're like me and relatively new and just messing around with the latest alpha release -- hopefully this helps!
[13:17] <obsidian> Good luck :-)
[13:44] <Daekdroom> Updating still hasn't fixed my Compiz/Unity, but I'm glad yours is working, obsidian
[14:15] <BluesKaj> no probs here on KDE 4.12.2
[14:21] <Daekdroom> It's most likely compiz. Running it on both GNOME Flashback and Unity won't work.
[14:30] <obsidian> When did you last update?
[14:30] <obsidian> Daekdroom, when did you last update?
[14:31] <Daekdroom> obsidian, after you posted that message.
[14:31] <Daekdroom> (there were only lightdm updates)
[14:31] <Daekdroom> Anyway, after Compiz didn't work for me I did an update right away, including the compiz package, that didn't fix it.
[14:31] <obsidian> Yeah, it's definitely compiz. I couldn't get the Compiz Manager to load.
[14:32] <obsidian> Did you reboot?
[14:32] <obsidian> compiz (core) - error: failed to load plugin: ccp
[14:32] <obsidian> That was the problem I got
[14:33] <Daekdroom> Yeah. It's what's happening to me.
[14:33] <obsidian> I tried updating all through the night. The update that worked, I tried literally a half hour prior to my post - so it's fairly recent.
[14:33] <Daekdroom> !info compiz
[14:33] <obsidian> You know how to access your System Settings from the Desktop, right?
[14:34] <Daekdroom> I don't need to. I'm using GNOME Flashback session for now.
[14:34] <obsidian> Ahh .. I see
[14:35] <obsidian> When was the last time you tried updating?
[14:35] <Daekdroom> Right now.
[14:35] <Daekdroom> I have the most recent compiz (according to ubottu) already.
[14:36] <obsidian> try running ..
[14:36] <obsidian> export DISPLAY=:0
[14:36] <obsidian> ccsm
[14:36] <Daekdroom> ...? it worked o.o
[14:37] <obsidian> Did it work?
[14:37] <Daekdroom> Yes. CCSM is working now.
[14:37] <obsidian> AWESOME
[14:37] <Daekdroom> I'll try restarting the session and checking Unity.
[14:37] <Daekdroom> Thank you.
[14:37] <obsidian> You're welcome!
[14:40] <obsidian> Well? What's the verdict?
[14:44] <obsidian> Daekdroom you get Unity working?
[14:44] <Daekdroom> Yes.
[14:45] <obsidian> Great
[14:45] <obsidian> Now you don't need to use GNOME Flashback
[15:08] <elvisd> Hi all, after updating my system today and a subsequent restart No login appears, the system remains stuck at console. Some tips?
[15:11] <elvisd> I have tried to reinstall lightdm and already done an dpk-reconfigure of the package
[15:12] <BluesKaj> update, upgrades then startx
[15:17] <elvisd> BluesKaj, done and I have the following error: /etc/X11/xinit/xserverc: 3: exec: /usr/bin/X: not found
[15:28] <Daekdroom> elvisd, 'sudo service lightdm start'
[15:29] <elvisd> Daekdroom, message: «start_ Job failed to start»
[15:30] <jpds> elvisd: /var/log/lightdm/
[15:32] <arielsanflo> hello
[15:32] <arielsanflo> i am from colombia
[15:32] <elvisd> jpds, Sorry can't paste the whole log file
[15:32] <elvisd> jpds, But i see an interesting error line
[15:32] <jpds> elvisd: Well, find out what it's complaining about.
[15:32] <longviewbits> elvisd: paste.ubuntu.com ;)
[15:33] <longviewbits> elvisd: and if you install pastebinit, it's very easy... pastebin /var/log/<logfile>
[15:33] <arielsanflo> my problem is no speack english
[15:33] <elvisd> «Can't launch X server X -core, not found in path»
[15:34] <BluesKaj> no Xserver
[15:35] <arielsanflo> recovered graph as part of my ubuntu 14.04 unbootable after upgrading me
[15:35] <arielsanflo> recovered graph as part of my ubuntu 14.04 unbootable after upgrading me
[15:36] <arielsanflo> no incia la parte grafica
[15:36] <arielsanflo> help
[15:36] <elvisd> arielsanflo, Hola Ariel. Have you tried in channel #ubuntu-es
[15:36] <arielsanflo> no soprte
[15:37] <arielsanflo> para 14.04
[15:38] <elvisd> BluesKaj, 'no Xserver'? Waht you mean? Xserver is here (writes log files) but in logs I can't find anything useful...
[15:39] <BluesKaj> looks like it's not launching
[15:46] <jpds> And looks like arielsanflo's complaining about the same thing.
[15:46]  * jpds wonders if something somewhere broke.
[15:50] <elvisd> Ok rebooted and installed pastebinit
[15:51] <elvisd> Here my lightdm.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879743
[15:59] <elvisd> Trying to install xserver-xorg returns me error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879776
[15:59] <dougl> should my wobbly windows and cube work without nvidia drivers in 14.04... I have no eyecandy
[16:00] <dougl> are the nvidia drivers even supposed to work in 14.04?
[16:02] <elvisd> Sorry I have to go... I'll connect later to see if we found a solution. Thanks
[16:09] <elvisd> I just launched an apt-get update followed by an apt-get install xserver-xorg and finally tha package could be installed
[16:11] <elvisd> I rebooted and the Desktop appears but without unity (no launcher and no top panel)
[16:13] <elvisd> Using unity --replace & from a terminal window unity starts.
[18:06] <roasted> hi
[18:06] <roasted> has anybody caught any discussion about gvfs and the unity 8/new file manager topic?
[18:07] <roasted> one thing I like about nautilus/gtk is gvfs, allowing you to treat file shares on servers as local directories in a weird way.
[18:28] <SonikkuAmerica> When is Beta 1 due in?
[18:31] <bazhang> !schedule
[18:31] <bazhang> SonikkuAmerica, ^
[18:32] <SonikkuAmerica> bazhang: Thanks :)
[18:51] <BluesKaj> dougl, yes, make sure you have OpenGL and raster chosen in desktop effects>advanced>Composting type and Qt graphics system
[19:05] <BluesKaj> BBL
[20:03] <dougl> is plymouth supposed to work too?
[21:14] <roasted> hi
[21:17] <dougl> h;i
[21:17] <dougl> so are the nvidia drivers suppossed to work in 14.04 alpha?
[21:18] <bekks> Yes.
[21:19] <dougl> hmmm I cannot seem to get the propietary drivers installed
[21:19] <bekks> apt-get install nvidia?
[21:20] <dougl> using jockey-kde
[21:20] <dougl> I should use apt-get?
[21:20] <bekks> I never used that jockey stuff. I just installed nvidia-331-updates.
[21:22] <dougl> sudo apt-get install nvidia-331-updates?
[21:22] <bekks> Thats what I did.
[21:22] <dougl> thanks
[21:23] <dougl> says is already installed :)
[21:24] <dougl> is plymouth supposed to work?
[21:24] <bekks> For me, it works fine.
[21:24] <genii> dougl: Not currently with Kubuntu
[21:25] <dougl> ok - thanks genii ... other than that 14.04 seems to rock!
[21:26] <dougl> genii, is the a source for information on plymouth on 14.04?
[21:27] <genii> dougl: Not sure. Mostly I know because I see them occasionally discussing it in the kubuntu dev channel
[21:28] <dougl> genii, nice - thank you, is that an open channel?
[21:28] <genii> dougl: Yes, unless you bother the devs too much ;) #kubuntu-devel
[21:29] <dougl> of course  genii - thanks :)
[21:31] <dougl> my 13.10 install is broken so I am happy to be forced into using 14.04.
[22:27] <xubuntu248> Hi, I using 14.04 daily build, my laptop touchpad is being detected as a pointer "evdev pointer catchall" InputClass, with the result that there is no multitouch. I tried commenting that class out hoping that it would default to the touchpad but then the touchpad was non functional. Any suggestions ?