pittiGood morning05:26
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robert_ancelllarsu, ping09:16
cryptexhelp me about rebuild own distro from ubuntu :p09:20
larsurobert_ancell: pong?!09:20
robert_ancelllarsu, I was just checking if you were a Russian submarine09:21
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seb128attente_, Laney, gsettings reset org.compiz.core:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/core/ active-plugins09:48
GunnarHjrobert_ancell: Hello Robert10:14
robert_ancellGunnarHj, hello10:14
GunnarHjrobert_ancell: Do you plan a new upload of lightdm soon? (I noticed that the latest debian/ changes were not included in the latest upload.)10:14
robert_ancellwhich changes?10:15
GunnarHjrobert_ancell: The guest session related changes in lp:lightdm...10:16
robert_ancellGunnarHj, was there a MP for that?10:16
GunnarHjrobert_ancell: Not sure what you mean, now. You approved 3 MPs against lp:lightdm. Those are what I'm talking about.10:17
robert_ancellGunnarHj, the debian/ dir in the archive contains changes not in lp:lightdm - I'm merging them back now10:18
robert_ancellbut yes, I can do a release today if there are pending changes10:18
GunnarHjrobert_ancell: That would be great, since then the translatable strings in the guest session startup dialog would finally make it to the PO files.10:19
GunnarHjrobert_ancell: Are you in Europe, btw, or just working late? ;-)10:20
robert_ancellGunnarHj, in London this week10:20
GunnarHjrobert_ancell: Ok.10:20
mptrobert_ancell, <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemMenu?action=diff&rev2=12&rev1=11>10:59
robert_ancellmpt, ta11:00
mlankhorstSweetshark: is your password LO4everXXX11:30
* apw notes that login no longer works on u11:41
apwyou just get a background and nothing else, one can start native X apps against :0 and they appear, but unity et al is all absent11:41
apwseems compiz is not connecting to X any more11:47
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seb128tkamppeter, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration12:37
rsalvetimlankhorst: hey, so what is blocking the proposed-migration of xorg-server now? just the rest of the xorg modules that you uploaded today?12:42
mlankhorstrsalveti: tegra and tegra3, almost done, they're about to be removed :)12:42
rsalvetimlankhorst: awesome then12:43
rsalveti    * armhf: nvidia-tegra, nvidia-tegra312:43
mlankhorstwould've been ready an hour ago but I forgot that we still had those12:43
mlankhorstseb128: ^12:43
seb128mlankhorst, what's the srcname12:49
seb128mlankhorst, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-tegra doesn't exists12:50
seb128https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-tegra3 exists12:50
mlankhorstseb128: erm the former link works12:51
xnoxhm, i launch nm-applet and it doesn't seem to come up in ubiquity-dm mode. Are there any special tricks i need to do for it to come up in ubiquity, same way it comes up in lightdm?12:51
seb128mlankhorst, hum, launchpad timeout it seems12:52
xnoxoh, nm-applet is not present in lightdm/unity-greeter either =(12:52
seb128xnox, today's kernel update eat my wlan012:52
seb128xnox, do you still have a wireless?12:52
xnoxseb128: it's a wired connection in a VM.12:52
xnoxseb128: and on my desktop.12:53
seb128k, so another issue12:53
seb128Laney had probelsm12:53
LaneyI have the same thing12:53
seb128problems even12:53
Laneywell, similar symptoms anyway12:53
seb128he said he would fix it12:53
xnoxseb128: and i see nm-applet in unity7-desktop session, but not lightdm nor VM nor ubiquity.12:53
xnoxLaney: is there a profile declaration for nm-applet?12:53
xnoxsimilar to the rest of the indicators in /usr/share/unity/indicators/ ?12:53
seb128it's an indicator-application client12:53
xnoxoh, do i need that runnning as well?12:53
seb128if you want to see it12:54
seb128but that should already work in lightdm12:54
xnoxseb128: yeah! i have working in ubiquity now! Totes amazeballs =) thanks a lot.12:55
seb128xnox, yw!12:56
seb128mlankhorst, done12:56
xnoxseb128: i think i'm missing only the ubiquity custom keyboard indicator, which i guess should be ported on top of indicator-application.12:56
xnoxanyway, good for now.12:56
mlankhorstrsalveti: nothing is blocking the transition of xorg 1.15 now, xorg 1.15 for everybody!12:56
* xnox disables auto-upgrades12:57
mlankhorstsays the person that broke wifi for everyone12:57
xnoxmlankhorst: did i?! =)12:57
* xnox do no radio stuff12:57
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gatoxhi, is there anyone having problems with the trusty image too?? i just reinstall it, and it seems it doesn't have unity, nothing works13:23
seb128gatox, there was a protobuf buggy version this morning which is leading to compiz failing to start13:25
seb128gatox, well, some compiz plugins13:25
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seb128gatox, upgrade, the fixed version just got published13:25
gatoxseb128, ohhhhhhh that might be it13:25
gatoxseb128, thanks! trying13:26
seb128gatox, yw13:27
seb128robert_ancell, is bug #1276572 the issue you fixed earlier this week?13:27
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1276572 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome control center crashes after switching between lock/display and security/privacy thru breadcrumb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127657213:27
robert_ancellseb128, yes13:27
seb128robert_ancell, thanks13:29
seb128closed it as duplicate13:29
xnoxlarsu: not all width bugs solved in trusty with ubiquity =/ it's still wider than usual =(13:31
xnoxlarsu: i wonder if i can walk it with autopilot to see what is pushing the size so big.13:31
gatoxseb128, that fix it, thanks!!!!13:34
seb128gatox, yw!13:34
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seb128Laney, robert_ancell: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707533#c714:18
ubot2`Gnome bug 707533 in gnome-session "gnome-session 3.9.91 segfaults with" [Critical,Resolved: fixed]14:18
seb128Laney, robert_ancell: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-session/commit/?h=gnome-3-10&id=705699b2799a3434d1a8f35c9a92868a5057f73e14:19
kenvandinehey desktop!14:24
seb128kenvandine, KEN!14:24
seb128we miss you!14:24
seb128how is Orlando?14:25
seb128Laney, robert_ancell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125956214:25
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1259562 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Old guest users pollute accountsservice" [Low,Triaged]14:25
kenvandinenice... but i don't have a working laptop..... if only there was a desktop guy here to help :)14:25
kenvandinei didn't update today... but this morning lightdm doesn't start...14:26
* kenvandine is download updates... but over a very slow pipe, network sucks here14:26
seb128kenvandine, there was a buggy protobuf update this morning, what version do you have?14:26
seb128that would make compiz plugins not load14:26
seb128but that should break lightdm14:27
kenvandinethat would explain dholbach's problem...14:27
kenvandinei didn't update since yesterday morning14:27
seb128so it's probably a local hack of yours...14:27
kenvandineno errors in any of the logs14:27
seb128did you try rebooting?14:27
seb128what happens exactly?14:28
seb128sudo status lightdm?14:28
kenvandinelibprotobuf8 2.5.0-5ubuntu214:28
kenvandinesays it's running14:28
kenvandinejust black screen14:28
kenvandineX isn't running14:28
seb128kenvandine, can you copy /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log and greeter...log somewhere?14:29
kenvandinethat first one was a tail... not the whole thing14:29
seb128kenvandine, I think you have the buggy protobuf14:30
seb128kenvandine, ignore that14:30
kenvandinelibprotobuf8 right?14:30
kenvandinei tried autologin14:31
kenvandineand still doesn't work14:31
kenvandinevery weird14:31
seb128kenvandine, can you scp the x-0.log x-0-greeter.log lightdm.log log somewhere?14:31
seb128or pastebin, u114:31
seb128whatever works for oyu14:31
kenvandinedid you see my pastebin links?14:31
robert_ancellkenvandine, need whole lightdm.log14:32
seb128yeah, but not enough in that14:32
kenvandinethe x-0-greeter.log one was the whole one14:32
seb128x-0.log ?14:32
kenvandinethat's lightdm.log14:32
robert_ancellkenvandine, the greeter log is generally not useful14:32
kenvandinethat's x-0.log14:32
kenvandinei used startx to get something up :)14:33
kenvandineso X works fine14:33
robert_ancellkenvandine, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log has more detail14:33
seb128or .old14:33
kenvandinethat's the .old one... should have been from lightdm14:34
mlankhorstseb128: so with everything breaking today, maybe you can slip in the default language pack change?14:35
seb128kenvandine, weird14:35
kenvandineinteresting thing about dholbach's issue was unity/compiz worked when he logged in from the lubuntu greeter14:37
kenvandinelightdm was working for him...14:37
kenvandinebut he installed lubuntu-desktop14:37
kenvandineto get a non-unity session to get working14:38
ogra_crazy guy14:38
kenvandinebut... he logged in from whatever greeter lubuntu uses14:38
kenvandineand got a working unity desktop...14:38
kenvandinebut it wouldn't work coming from lightdm14:38
kenvandineok, i just updated a few packages... including lightdm... let me try restarting again14:39
kenvandinebrb... i hope14:39
ChrisTownsendattente_: Hi, did you see my comment in your Unity MP about the AP test failure?14:40
attente_ChrisTownsend, yes14:41
attente_i'm refactoring things to simplify the code14:41
attente_but i realize that i didn't do a proper teardown14:41
ChrisTownsendattente_: Ok, sounds good.  Ping me when you're ready for us to re-review.14:42
attente_ChrisTownsend, thanks :)14:42
ChrisTownsendattente_: np!14:42
kenvandineno joy...14:43
kenvandineseb128, robert_ancell: any ideas?14:51
rickspencer3seb128, et al ... I'm wondering why the desktop breakage that people felt today didn't get caught in -proposed, is there something we should do to enhance that system?14:52
robert_ancellkenvandine, where is the full lightdm log?14:52
kenvandineseb128, has the protobuf problem been fixed?14:52
ogra_rickspencer3, it was the same issue i explained to you before14:52
rickspencer3ogra_, right, I understand that14:53
rickspencer3but I was wondering if we could add some autopacakge tests or something14:53
seb128rickspencer3, hey, because we don't run unity7 autopilot tests in britney14:53
rickspencer3ogra_, because the desktop does not have the same buffer14:53
ogra_you couldnt14:53
seb128not sure if we could do that through autopkgtest14:53
ogra_its the same issue, would require the same test setup i explained14:53
ogra_we would need image tests for desktop14:54
ogra_for each package that enters14:54
seb128kenvandine, the protobuf issue, yes14:54
ogra_britney/autopkgtest only checks insiallability14:54
kenvandineseb128, cool, folks here are asking about it14:54
ogra_but not functionality14:54
rickspencer3ogra_, I think some autopackage tests are functional14:55
rickspencer3depends on the package14:55
ogra_rickspencer3, perferably we should have such tests for everything, regardless if it is desktop, server or phone14:55
ogra_autopackage doesnt help14:55
ogra_you need autopilot14:55
ogra_against a running vm14:55
ogra_(or hardware)14:55
rickspencer3ogra_, I think I understand the situation, actually14:55
rickspencer3I think seb128's answer was sufficient, I don't know if we'll invest in running unity 7 tests out of proposed, I think the 3d requirements will make that hardish14:56
kenvandinerobert_ancell, i switched to gdm... working for now :)15:03
seb128kenvandine, that's a workaround!15:11
seb128kenvandine, do you have unity-greeter installed?15:11
Laneyjust symlink it15:16
larsuxnox: hm :/ let me know if you need any help15:23
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kenvandineseb128, yes i do have unity-greeter installed15:42
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seb128kenvandine, weird, what did you do to it then!15:45
ogra_he probably tried switching it to french ... i heard bad things can happen then15:47
seb128ogra_, you could get slapped with an old trout15:48
kenvandineogra_, i would never even try switching to french... i know better :)15:48
ogra_is it friday yet ?15:48
* seb128 slaps kenvandine with an old trout15:49
ogra_yummy, sushi15:49
Laneyaround a bit15:49
* kenvandine likes old trout15:49
kenvandinesmelly :)15:49
* Laney Khaled Mardam-Bey15:49
seb128robert_ancell, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html16:02
seb128robert_ancell, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt16:02
robert_ancellseb128, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grilo/0.2.7-1ubuntu116:07
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margaAt what time is vorlon usually around? (I know it's still very early in the west coast)16:12
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ogra_marga, vorlon is slangasek in here :)16:13
margaah, right, thanks...16:13
ogra_marga, and you should find him in #ubuntu-devel16:13
seb128Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-system-settings/updates-in-main/+merge/20371916:14
seb128marga, he should be around in the next hour or so I guess16:17
seb128marga, easier to just ask him your question and see when he replied16:18
margaseb128, great, thanks.16:18
margaseb128, I know, but this is not "a question", I want his opinion and I need to interact with him :)16:18
seb128marga, right, I meant it's easier to just do a "slangasek: hey, do you have some time to talk about <topic>" and see when he replies :-)16:21
GunnarHjLaney: Thanks for the help with the freedesktop patch(es)!16:26
GunnarHjLaney: Is that what you usually needs to do to get things accepted there?16:27
LaneyGunnarHj: it can help16:28
Laneysince people often won't want to go to the extra effort to get something into shape16:28
GunnarHjLaney: Yeah ... maybe I'd better learn the git stuff some day.16:29
Laneyit's useful for upstreaming things16:29
seb128robert_ancell,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/127668416:31
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1276684 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm isn't showing a greeter" [Undecided,New]16:31
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attente_ChrisTownsend, hi16:40
attente_ChrisTownsend, i pushed the changes to the tests16:40
attente_it does a proper teardown now, but maybe there's some loose ends from the old tests, probably best to start a new unity session before trying again16:41
ChrisTownsendattente_: Ok, I'll check on it.16:45
seb128Sweetshark, new libcmis has one test failing on powerpc (in both Debian and Ubuntu), can you have a look upstream if that's a known issue?16:51
seb128didrocks, sil2100, is ubuntu-themes under CI train or still old landing?17:00
tkamppeterxnox, hi17:01
xnoxtkamppeter: hello!17:02
seb128kenvandine, I'm undupping that bug, indicator-datetime being buggy should take the greeter down this way17:11
tkamppeterxnox, should a bug get reported about Upstart socket activation not working?17:11
tkamppeterxnox, would you do it?17:12
kenvandineseb128, ok17:12
xnoxtkamppeter: let me do it.17:12
tkamppeterxnox, thanks.17:13
xnoxtkamppeter: filed as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/127671317:38
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1276713 in cups (Ubuntu) "upstart socket activation for cups" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:38
GunnarHjIs bug 1256585 a "won't fix"?17:59
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1256585 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "adduser does not update System Settings "Accounts" or the session login screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125658517:59
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kenvandineseb128, do you know why evolution-data-server depends on the uoa or goa plugin?  could that be a recommends instead?18:23
seb128kenvandine, oh, funny that you ask, I asked mbarnes about that split yesterday and I'm going to drop it, it's done in a buggy way/doesn't make sense18:24
seb128kenvandine, what issue are you trying to resolve? gtk on the touch image?18:24
kenvandineoh... cool :)18:25
kenvandinenot gtk18:25
kenvandinewe don't want the uoa plugin installed on the touch image18:25
kenvandinesince it'll be using syncevolution with it's uoa plugin18:25
kenvandineso we want eds without uoa or goa18:25
tkamppeterxnox, thanks.18:25
ogra_kenvandine, doesnt click use uoa ?18:25
seb128kenvandine, oh, I was going to merge those back in e-d-s18:26
seb128kenvandine, needs an u1 account for the click store18:26
ogra_yeah, installing a click package requires you to log in to an ubuntu account18:26
kenvandineogra_, yeah... that isn't eds18:26
seb128ogra_, that's nothing to do with evolution-data-server18:26
kenvandineseb128, we just don't want the service files installed18:26
ogra_no, but uoa will be on the image regardless what you do with the deps18:27
kenvandineso they don't pollute the UI in uss-online-accounts18:27
kenvandinehaving the service files, when you have a google account it shows 3 entries for EDS18:27
kenvandinebut in fact none of those are going to be used for anything18:27
kenvandinesyncevolution will provide the UOA service for eds18:28
seb128kenvandine, why not? do they create issue?18:28
kenvandineseb128, so i'd like to keep the split if we can drop that depends to a recommends18:29
kenvandineand useless on the device :)18:29
seb128kenvandine, sorry, I was on another win and didn't see your explanations before typing my question18:29
seb128kenvandine, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/eds.log18:29
seb128kenvandine, ok, we can keep the split, e-d-s-online-accounts or something that includes both uoa and goa18:30
seb128kenvandine, then maybe a -gtk as well18:30
kenvandinethat would be fine18:31
seb128kenvandine, can you read the log I just pointed? in case you have somebody in mind that could help on the certificate ui thing?18:31
kenvandinewe just don't have a need for online access to stuff for eds since we really want data to be synced18:31
kenvandinei read it18:31
kenvandinei think a -gtk would be best18:32
kenvandinethen if we ever get a qt one we could have a -qt18:32
kenvandinethank you :)18:32
seb128I'm going to do those changes tomorrow18:32
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kenvandineyou rock18:32
seb128kenvandine, btw do you know if anyone could help with Laney's question (earlier on #ubuntu-app-devel)18:32
kenvandinei didn't see it18:33
kenvandinewhat was it?18:33
seb128kenvandine, is there a "standard" effect in the toolkit we could use to indicate something got clicked18:33
seb128kenvandine, we need it for u-s-s18:33
seb128kenvandine, to give feedback a panel got clicked18:33
kenvandine"something"? any type of component?18:33
kenvandinethe grid items18:33
kenvandinei'll ask the right people here18:34
kenvandineseb128, is it really just to show something will happen in case it's a little slow?18:35
seb128kenvandine, right, pat and others gave feedback about that18:36
seb128like they would click on update 3 times18:36
seb128without knowing if that worked18:36
* kenvandine goes to find someone :)18:37
seb128kenvandine, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings?action=diff&rev2=54&rev1=5318:37
seb128kenvandine, that's the design feedback18:37
seb128" 1. When you choose an item, the item should highlight until its screen appears."18:37
seb128kenvandine, I don't know if we have a standard "highlight" effect for qml components though18:37
kenvandinethere is for a listview18:37
seb128right, our is a grid of custom components18:38
kenvandinewell... you can define a component to use as the highlight18:38
seb128so I guess there is no builtin there18:38
kenvandineso we'd need to do that ourself18:38
seb128do you know of any example?18:38
seb128just for inspiration18:38
kenvandineand it still leaves the treatment completely up to you18:38
kenvandinelook at hightlight* on that page18:39
seb128we don't use a listview18:39
kenvandinei know... that's inspiration though :)18:39
kenvandineyou set the component to use when an item is highlighted18:39
kenvandineand you can define how they change18:40
kenvandinewhich we don't need18:40
kenvandinejust define our grid item to have a highlight component18:40
kenvandineand that component really would just change opacity, color, etc18:40
LaneyI guess you'd have to handle the activation manually18:41
kenvandineseb128, http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-listview.html#highlight-prop18:41
kenvandineoh... we lost him18:42
kenvandineseb128, http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-listview.html#highlight-prop18:42
Laneydoesn't sound too nice18:42
seb128kenvandine, sorry, guest session switch screwed my session, I read what you wrote on Laney's screen18:42
seb128kenvandine, thanks18:43
* seb128 misses having a real toolkit doing those stuff for you :p18:43
kenvandineLaney, kind of a pain to implement ourselves...18:43
kenvandinebut would be good to do something similar to how the listview does it18:43
kenvandineyou could just change one property when it gets the event18:44
kenvandineand add a new signal to change that property back when the plugin loads18:44
kenvandinejust tough to figure out the right place to add that signal showing it's ready18:45
kenvandinemaybe add an activating state18:45
kenvandineand toggle that state18:45
LaneyI'll think about it18:45
Laneyunless you want to work on it at the sprint with the sdk guys there ;-)18:45
kenvandinestuff to ponder over a beer :)18:45
kenvandineha... i'm a bit deep in other stuff right now :)18:46
kenvandinemuch of which depends on getting a bunch of tedg's UAL branches actually landed...18:46
kenvandinetedg, you love making me depend on you18:47
kenvandinetedg, i think i'll add a Depends:tedg  to my personal control file18:47
Mirvnot sleeping yet.. maybe soon19:25
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xclaesseanyone has seen that message when running "sudo apt-get update" on Trusty? "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4831, leaking memory"20:12
sarnoldxclaesse: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/127468020:13
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1274680 in sudo (Ubuntu) "sudo no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparam.c:4831, leaking memory" [Undecided,New]20:13
xclaessesarnold, ok thanks !20:14
xclaessesarnold, I though it was apt-get, but indeed that's related to sudo actually20:14
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