[05:26] Good morning === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === fredp` is now known as fredp [09:16] larsu, ping [09:17] hi [09:20] help me about rebuild own distro from ubuntu :p [09:20] robert_ancell: pong?! [09:21] larsu, I was just checking if you were a Russian submarine === lool- is now known as lool [09:48] attente_, Laney, gsettings reset org.compiz.core:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/core/ active-plugins [10:14] robert_ancell: Hello Robert [10:14] GunnarHj, hello [10:14] robert_ancell: Do you plan a new upload of lightdm soon? (I noticed that the latest debian/ changes were not included in the latest upload.) [10:15] which changes? [10:16] robert_ancell: The guest session related changes in lp:lightdm... [10:16] GunnarHj, was there a MP for that? [10:17] robert_ancell: Not sure what you mean, now. You approved 3 MPs against lp:lightdm. Those are what I'm talking about. [10:18] GunnarHj, the debian/ dir in the archive contains changes not in lp:lightdm - I'm merging them back now [10:18] but yes, I can do a release today if there are pending changes [10:19] robert_ancell: That would be great, since then the translatable strings in the guest session startup dialog would finally make it to the PO files. [10:20] robert_ancell: Are you in Europe, btw, or just working late? ;-) [10:20] GunnarHj, in London this week [10:20] robert_ancell: Ok. [10:59] robert_ancell, [11:00] mpt, ta [11:30] Sweetshark: is your password LO4everXXX [11:41] * apw notes that login no longer works on u [11:41] u [11:41] ubuntu-desktop [11:41] you just get a background and nothing else, one can start native X apps against :0 and they appear, but unity et al is all absent [11:47] seems compiz is not connecting to X any more === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:37] tkamppeter, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration [12:42] mlankhorst: hey, so what is blocking the proposed-migration of xorg-server now? just the rest of the xorg modules that you uploaded today? [12:42] rsalveti: tegra and tegra3, almost done, they're about to be removed :) [12:43] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt [12:43] mlankhorst: awesome then [12:43] * armhf: nvidia-tegra, nvidia-tegra3 [12:43] right [12:43] would've been ready an hour ago but I forgot that we still had those [12:43] seb128: ^ [12:49] mlankhorst, what's the srcname [12:49] nvidia-graphics-drivers-tegra [12:49] nvidia-graphics-drivers-tegra3 [12:50] mlankhorst, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-tegra doesn't exists [12:50] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-tegra3 exists [12:51] seb128: erm the former link works [12:51] hm, i launch nm-applet and it doesn't seem to come up in ubiquity-dm mode. Are there any special tricks i need to do for it to come up in ubiquity, same way it comes up in lightdm? [12:52] mlankhorst, hum, launchpad timeout it seems [12:52] oh, nm-applet is not present in lightdm/unity-greeter either =( [12:52] horum. [12:52] xnox, today's kernel update eat my wlan0 [12:52] xnox, do you still have a wireless? [12:52] seb128: it's a wired connection in a VM. [12:53] seb128: and on my desktop. [12:53] k, so another issue [12:53] Laney had probelsm [12:53] I have the same thing [12:53] problems even [12:53] well, similar symptoms anyway [12:53] he said he would fix it [12:53] LIES [12:53] seb128: and i see nm-applet in unity7-desktop session, but not lightdm nor VM nor ubiquity. [12:53] Laney: is there a profile declaration for nm-applet? [12:53] no [12:53] similar to the rest of the indicators in /usr/share/unity/indicators/ ? [12:53] it's an indicator-application client [12:53] oh, do i need that runnning as well? [12:54] if you want to see it [12:54] but that should already work in lightdm [12:55] seb128: yeah! i have working in ubiquity now! Totes amazeballs =) thanks a lot. [12:56] xnox, yw! [12:56] mlankhorst, done [12:56] thanks [12:56] seb128: i think i'm missing only the ubiquity custom keyboard indicator, which i guess should be ported on top of indicator-application. [12:56] anyway, good for now. [12:56] rsalveti: nothing is blocking the transition of xorg 1.15 now, xorg 1.15 for everybody! [12:56] \o/ [12:57] * xnox disables auto-upgrades [12:57] says the person that broke wifi for everyone [12:57] mlankhorst: did i?! =) [12:57] * xnox do no radio stuff === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:23] hi, is there anyone having problems with the trusty image too?? i just reinstall it, and it seems it doesn't have unity, nothing works [13:25] gatox, there was a protobuf buggy version this morning which is leading to compiz failing to start [13:25] gatox, well, some compiz plugins === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:25] gatox, upgrade, the fixed version just got published [13:25] seb128, ohhhhhhh that might be it [13:26] seb128, thanks! trying [13:27] gatox, yw [13:27] robert_ancell, is bug #1276572 the issue you fixed earlier this week? [13:27] Launchpad bug 1276572 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome control center crashes after switching between lock/display and security/privacy thru breadcrumb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1276572 [13:27] seb128, yes [13:29] robert_ancell, thanks [13:29] closed it as duplicate [13:31] larsu: not all width bugs solved in trusty with ubiquity =/ it's still wider than usual =( [13:31] larsu: i wonder if i can walk it with autopilot to see what is pushing the size so big. [13:34] seb128, that fix it, thanks!!!! [13:34] gatox, yw! === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === czajkows1i is now known as czajkowski [14:18] Laney, robert_ancell: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707533#c7 [14:18] Gnome bug 707533 in gnome-session "gnome-session 3.9.91 segfaults with" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] [14:18] http://www.utobeer.co.uk/the-rake/on-the-bar-today/ [14:19] Laney, robert_ancell: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-session/commit/?h=gnome-3-10&id=705699b2799a3434d1a8f35c9a92868a5057f73e [14:24] hey desktop! [14:24] kenvandine, KEN! [14:24] we miss you! [14:24] :) [14:25] how is Orlando? [14:25] Laney, robert_ancell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1259562 [14:25] Launchpad bug 1259562 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Old guest users pollute accountsservice" [Low,Triaged] [14:25] nice... but i don't have a working laptop..... if only there was a desktop guy here to help :) [14:26] i didn't update today... but this morning lightdm doesn't start... [14:26] * kenvandine is download updates... but over a very slow pipe, network sucks here [14:26] kenvandine, there was a buggy protobuf update this morning, what version do you have? [14:26] that would make compiz plugins not load [14:27] but that should break lightdm [14:27] that would explain dholbach's problem... [14:27] i didn't update since yesterday morning [14:27] so it's probably a local hack of yours... [14:27] no errors in any of the logs [14:27] did you try rebooting? [14:27] yup [14:28] what happens exactly? [14:28] sudo status lightdm? [14:28] libprotobuf8 2.5.0-5ubuntu2 [14:28] says it's running [14:28] just black screen [14:28] X isn't running [14:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879316/ [14:29] kenvandine, can you copy /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log and greeter...log somewhere? [14:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879320/ [14:29] that first one was a tail... not the whole thing [14:30] kenvandine, I think you have the buggy protobuf [14:30] 2.5.0-5ubuntu2 [14:30] kenvandine, ignore that [14:30] libprotobuf8 right? [14:30] gyeah [14:31] i tried autologin [14:31] and still doesn't work [14:31] very weird [14:31] kenvandine, can you scp the x-0.log x-0-greeter.log lightdm.log log somewhere? [14:31] or pastebin, u1 [14:31] whatever works for oyu [14:31] did you see my pastebin links? [14:32] kenvandine, need whole lightdm.log [14:32] yeah, but not enough in that [14:32] the x-0-greeter.log one was the whole one [14:32] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879364/ [14:32] x-0.log ? [14:32] that's lightdm.log [14:32] kenvandine, the greeter log is generally not useful [14:32] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879367/ [14:32] that's x-0.log [14:33] i used startx to get something up :) [14:33] so X works fine [14:33] kenvandine, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log has more detail [14:33] or .old [14:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879370/ [14:34] that's the .old one... should have been from lightdm [14:35] seb128: so with everything breaking today, maybe you can slip in the default language pack change? [14:35] french! [14:35] kenvandine, weird [14:37] interesting thing about dholbach's issue was unity/compiz worked when he logged in from the lubuntu greeter [14:37] lightdm was working for him... [14:37] but he installed lubuntu-desktop [14:38] to get a non-unity session to get working [14:38] crazy guy [14:38] but... he logged in from whatever greeter lubuntu uses [14:38] and got a working unity desktop... [14:38] but it wouldn't work coming from lightdm [14:39] ok, i just updated a few packages... including lightdm... let me try restarting again [14:39] brb... i hope [14:40] attente_: Hi, did you see my comment in your Unity MP about the AP test failure? [14:41] ChrisTownsend, yes [14:41] i'm refactoring things to simplify the code [14:41] but i realize that i didn't do a proper teardown [14:42] attente_: Ok, sounds good. Ping me when you're ready for us to re-review. [14:42] ChrisTownsend, thanks :) [14:42] attente_: np! [14:43] no joy... [14:51] seb128, robert_ancell: any ideas? [14:52] seb128, et al ... I'm wondering why the desktop breakage that people felt today didn't get caught in -proposed, is there something we should do to enhance that system? [14:52] kenvandine, where is the full lightdm log? [14:52] seb128, has the protobuf problem been fixed? [14:52] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879364/ [14:52] rickspencer3, it was the same issue i explained to you before [14:53] ogra_, right, I understand that [14:53] but I was wondering if we could add some autopacakge tests or something [14:53] rickspencer3, hey, because we don't run unity7 autopilot tests in britney [14:53] ogra_, because the desktop does not have the same buffer [14:53] you couldnt [14:53] not sure if we could do that through autopkgtest [14:53] its the same issue, would require the same test setup i explained [14:54] we would need image tests for desktop [14:54] for each package that enters [14:54] kenvandine, the protobuf issue, yes [14:54] britney/autopkgtest only checks insiallability [14:54] seb128, cool, folks here are asking about it [14:54] but not functionality [14:55] ogra_, I think some autopackage tests are functional [14:55] depends on the package [14:55] rickspencer3, perferably we should have such tests for everything, regardless if it is desktop, server or phone [14:55] autopackage doesnt help [14:55] you need autopilot [14:55] against a running vm [14:55] (or hardware) [14:55] ogra_, I think I understand the situation, actually [14:56] k [14:56] I think seb128's answer was sufficient, I don't know if we'll invest in running unity 7 tests out of proposed, I think the 3d requirements will make that hardish [15:03] robert_ancell, i switched to gdm... working for now :) [15:11] kenvandine, that's a workaround! [15:11] kenvandine, do you have unity-greeter installed? [15:16] just symlink it [15:23] xnox: hm :/ let me know if you need any help === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [15:42] seb128, yes i do have unity-greeter installed === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:45] kenvandine, weird, what did you do to it then! [15:47] he probably tried switching it to french ... i heard bad things can happen then [15:47] :) [15:48] ogra_, you could get slapped with an old trout [15:48] ogra_, i would never even try switching to french... i know better :) [15:48] is it friday yet ? [15:48] :) [15:49] * seb128 slaps kenvandine with an old trout [15:49] yummy, sushi [15:49] around a bit [15:49] * kenvandine likes old trout [15:49] smelly :) [15:49] * Laney Khaled Mardam-Bey [16:02] robert_ancell, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html [16:02] robert_ancell, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt [16:07] seb128, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grilo/0.2.7-1ubuntu1 === Guest19773 is now known as mfisch [16:12] At what time is vorlon usually around? (I know it's still very early in the west coast) === mfisch is now known as Guest56115 [16:13] marga, vorlon is slangasek in here :) [16:13] ah, right, thanks... [16:13] marga, and you should find him in #ubuntu-devel [16:14] Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-system-settings/updates-in-main/+merge/203719 [16:17] marga, he should be around in the next hour or so I guess [16:18] marga, easier to just ask him your question and see when he replied [16:18] replies [16:18] seb128, great, thanks. [16:18] yw [16:18] seb128, I know, but this is not "a question", I want his opinion and I need to interact with him :) [16:21] marga, right, I meant it's easier to just do a "slangasek: hey, do you have some time to talk about " and see when he replies :-) [16:26] Laney: Thanks for the help with the freedesktop patch(es)! [16:26] np [16:27] Laney: Is that what you usually needs to do to get things accepted there? [16:28] GunnarHj: it can help [16:28] since people often won't want to go to the extra effort to get something into shape [16:29] Laney: Yeah ... maybe I'd better learn the git stuff some day. [16:29] it's useful for upstreaming things [16:31] robert_ancell, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1276684 [16:31] Launchpad bug 1276684 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm isn't showing a greeter" [Undecided,New] === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [16:40] ChrisTownsend, hi [16:40] ChrisTownsend, i pushed the changes to the tests [16:41] it does a proper teardown now, but maybe there's some loose ends from the old tests, probably best to start a new unity session before trying again [16:45] attente_: Ok, I'll check on it. [16:51] Sweetshark, new libcmis has one test failing on powerpc (in both Debian and Ubuntu), can you have a look upstream if that's a known issue? [17:00] didrocks, sil2100, is ubuntu-themes under CI train or still old landing? [17:01] xnox, hi [17:02] tkamppeter: hello! [17:11] kenvandine, I'm undupping that bug, indicator-datetime being buggy should take the greeter down this way [17:11] xnox, should a bug get reported about Upstart socket activation not working? [17:12] xnox, would you do it? [17:12] seb128, ok [17:12] tkamppeter: let me do it. [17:13] xnox, thanks. [17:38] tkamppeter: filed as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1276713 [17:38] Launchpad bug 1276713 in cups (Ubuntu) "upstart socket activation for cups" [Undecided,Confirmed] [17:59] Is bug 1256585 a "won't fix"? [17:59] Launchpad bug 1256585 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "adduser does not update System Settings "Accounts" or the session login screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1256585 === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:23] seb128, do you know why evolution-data-server depends on the uoa or goa plugin? could that be a recommends instead? [18:24] kenvandine, oh, funny that you ask, I asked mbarnes about that split yesterday and I'm going to drop it, it's done in a buggy way/doesn't make sense [18:24] kenvandine, what issue are you trying to resolve? gtk on the touch image? [18:25] oh... cool :) [18:25] not gtk [18:25] we don't want the uoa plugin installed on the touch image [18:25] since it'll be using syncevolution with it's uoa plugin [18:25] so we want eds without uoa or goa [18:25] xnox, thanks. [18:25] kenvandine, doesnt click use uoa ? [18:26] click? [18:26] kenvandine, oh, I was going to merge those back in e-d-s [18:26] kenvandine, needs an u1 account for the click store [18:26] yeah, installing a click package requires you to log in to an ubuntu account [18:26] ogra_, yeah... that isn't eds [18:26] ogra_, that's nothing to do with evolution-data-server [18:26] seb128, we just don't want the service files installed [18:27] no, but uoa will be on the image regardless what you do with the deps [18:27] so they don't pollute the UI in uss-online-accounts [18:27] having the service files, when you have a google account it shows 3 entries for EDS [18:27] but in fact none of those are going to be used for anything [18:28] syncevolution will provide the UOA service for eds [18:28] kenvandine, why not? do they create issue? [18:29] seb128, so i'd like to keep the split if we can drop that depends to a recommends [18:29] oh [18:29] ugly [18:29] and useless on the device :) [18:29] kenvandine, sorry, I was on another win and didn't see your explanations before typing my question [18:29] kenvandine, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/eds.log [18:30] kenvandine, ok, we can keep the split, e-d-s-online-accounts or something that includes both uoa and goa [18:30] kenvandine, then maybe a -gtk as well [18:31] that would be fine [18:31] kenvandine, can you read the log I just pointed? in case you have somebody in mind that could help on the certificate ui thing? [18:31] we just don't have a need for online access to stuff for eds since we really want data to be synced [18:31] i read it [18:32] i think a -gtk would be best [18:32] then if we ever get a qt one we could have a -qt [18:32] ok [18:32] thanks [18:32] thank you :) [18:32] I'm going to do those changes tomorrow === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [18:32] yw [18:32] excellent [18:32] you rock [18:32] kenvandine, btw do you know if anyone could help with Laney's question (earlier on #ubuntu-app-devel) [18:33] i didn't see it [18:33] what was it? [18:33] kenvandine, is there a "standard" effect in the toolkit we could use to indicate something got clicked [18:33] kenvandine, we need it for u-s-s [18:33] kenvandine, to give feedback a panel got clicked [18:33] "something"? any type of component? [18:33] ah [18:33] the grid items [18:34] i'll ask the right people here [18:35] seb128, is it really just to show something will happen in case it's a little slow? [18:36] kenvandine, right, pat and others gave feedback about that [18:36] like they would click on update 3 times [18:36] without knowing if that worked [18:36] ok [18:37] * kenvandine goes to find someone :) [18:37] kenvandine, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings?action=diff&rev2=54&rev1=53 [18:37] kenvandine, that's the design feedback [18:37] " 1. When you choose an item, the item should highlight until its screen appears." [18:37] kenvandine, I don't know if we have a standard "highlight" effect for qml components though [18:37] there is for a listview [18:38] right, our is a grid of custom components [18:38] well... you can define a component to use as the highlight [18:38] so I guess there is no builtin there [18:38] so we'd need to do that ourself [18:38] do you know of any example? [18:38] just for inspiration [18:38] and it still leaves the treatment completely up to you [18:39] http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-listview.html [18:39] look at hightlight* on that page [18:39] we don't use a listview [18:39] i know... that's inspiration though :) [18:39] you set the component to use when an item is highlighted [18:40] and you can define how they change [18:40] which we don't need [18:40] just define our grid item to have a highlight component [18:40] and that component really would just change opacity, color, etc [18:41] I guess you'd have to handle the activation manually [18:41] seb128, http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-listview.html#highlight-prop [18:42] oh... we lost him [18:42] :) [18:42] yeah [18:42] seb128, http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-listview.html#highlight-prop [18:42] doesn't sound too nice [18:42] kenvandine, sorry, guest session switch screwed my session, I read what you wrote on Laney's screen [18:43] :) [18:43] kenvandine, thanks [18:43] * seb128 misses having a real toolkit doing those stuff for you :p [18:43] Laney, kind of a pain to implement ourselves... [18:43] but would be good to do something similar to how the listview does it [18:44] you could just change one property when it gets the event [18:44] and add a new signal to change that property back when the plugin loads [18:45] just tough to figure out the right place to add that signal showing it's ready [18:45] maybe add an activating state [18:45] and toggle that state [18:45] I'll think about it [18:45] unless you want to work on it at the sprint with the sdk guys there ;-) [18:45] stuff to ponder over a beer :) [18:46] ha... i'm a bit deep in other stuff right now :) [18:46] much of which depends on getting a bunch of tedg's UAL branches actually landed... [18:47] tedg, you love making me depend on you [18:47] tedg, i think i'll add a Depends:tedg to my personal control file [19:01] night [19:25] not sleeping yet.. maybe soon === Guest56115 is now known as mfisch === mfisch is now known as Guest73201 [20:12] anyone has seen that message when running "sudo apt-get update" on Trusty? "no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4831, leaking memory" [20:13] xclaesse: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/1274680 [20:13] Launchpad bug 1274680 in sudo (Ubuntu) "sudo no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparam.c:4831, leaking memory" [Undecided,New] [20:14] sarnold, ok thanks ! [20:14] sarnold, I though it was apt-get, but indeed that's related to sudo actually === Guest67272 is now known as davestator === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away