[00:13] <redneckJEDI> hello, first time user here. have stoopid question.
[00:14] <redneckJEDI> 1) am i in a chat room and is anybody there?
[00:14] <shauno> you are, we are
[00:14] <redneckJEDI> fantastic.  i might not suck at this!
[00:15] <redneckJEDI> question will follow the preceeding line:
[00:15] <redneckJEDI> sudo ldapadd -Y EXTERNAL -H ldapi:/// -f backend.example.com.ldif
[00:15] <redneckJEDI> what in the WORLD does EXTERNAL -H do?
[00:18] <redneckJEDI> i ask at the risk of exposing my noobish skill.  :)
[00:19] <shauno> I have precisely zero exposure to ldap, so all I could do is parrot the man page; but generic advice would be that if no-one replies, wait around a while - people do peek it, but not on a constant basis
[00:19] <redneckJEDI> understood, thank you
[00:20] <shauno> but I would check "man ldapadd" to see how it explains what -Y and -H are expecting  (I don't have it installed).  it's always a good start
[00:20] <redneckJEDI> maybe EXTERNAL is part of the internal working of LDAP because the man pages don't show up for EXTERNAL explicitly.  must be buried in another man page
[00:20] <redneckJEDI> will do that.  maybe i missed something
[00:21] <redneckJEDI> your inspiration is much appriciated
[00:35] <mgw> I'm building a package. Depending on the order of dh_installinit and dh_installdeb, the /etc/ files are either always updated or never updated. What I want is for dpkg to ask whether to replace if and only if both files have changed. I thought this was default behavior for conffiles. Any suggestions?
[03:17] <Guest83103> hi, how do i enable anon delete on my ftp server? im running vsftpd
[03:19] <Guest83103> hello?
[03:23] <cfhowlett> Guest83103, greetings
[03:23] <cfhowlett> Guest83103, can't answer, but you were seen ...
[03:24] <Guest83103> damn
[03:24] <Guest83103> im trying to add a website to my apache server via ftp
[03:24] <Guest83103> not going so good man
[03:24] <Guest83103> but i figured out how to edit the default apache page so i got that going for me
[03:25] <Guest83103> i got this domain for .50 cents man www.thatonecomputergeek.com
[05:40] <villf> hey guys im having some issues with my ubuntu server, i upgraded my server and now every time i boot i get this
[05:40] <villf> http://www.picpaste.com/photo_1-MXWtKCUT.JPG
[05:40] <villf> http://www.picpaste.com/photo_2-wWifVpea.JPG
[05:41] <villf> http://www.picpaste.com/photo_3-zEY2DWCE.JPG
[05:41] <villf> can any one help me or guide me on how to get my server to boot normally and not in degraded raid mode?
[05:47] <hitsujiTMO> villf: are you on a live cd now?
[05:48] <villf> no i am booted in degraded mode
[05:49] <hitsujiTMO> villf: what type of raid?
[05:49] <villf> i believe its raid10 software raid
[05:50] <villf> i think i was first getting a md10 not found error before, but now i have the option to boot in degraded raid mode
[05:50] <hitsujiTMO> villf: ok. can you boot a live cd
[05:50] <villf> okay brb
[06:06] <villaf> im booted in live cd now
[06:07] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: ok: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[06:07] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: dmesg | pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[06:09] <villaf> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[06:09] <villaf> Reading package lists... Done
[06:09] <villaf> Building dependency tree
[06:09] <villaf> Reading state information... Done
[06:09] <villaf> E: Unable to locate package pastebinit
[06:09] <villaf> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[06:10] <villaf> says unable to locate package pastebinit
[06:11] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[06:14] <villaf> hitsujiTMO , i pmed you the result
[06:14] <villaf> E: Unable to locate package pastebinit
[06:15] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: i can't see pms. can you enable the universe repo please. then try again
[06:15] <villaf> im sorry im rather inexperianced how do i enable universe repo?
[06:18] <villaf> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $(lsb_release -sc) universe"
[06:19] <villaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877358/
[06:19] <villaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877359/
[06:22] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: seeing serious errors straight away: [    4.992198] EXT4-fs (sdb1): bad geometry: block count 244192478 exceeds size of device (262144 blocks)
[06:22] <hitsujiTMO> [    5.084152] EXT4-fs (sdd1): bad geometry: block count 244192478 exceeds size of device (262144 blocks)
[06:23] <villaf> is there any way i can somehow clone the data off that raid onto 1 500gig ssd drive?
[06:23] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: i presume none of the drives are attached via usb?
[06:24] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: usb issues: [  195.436267] hub 4-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 1.  Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[06:24] <villaf> i have two 2 tb usb 3.0 drives attached to the server now, internally i have 4 500 gig sata drives
[06:24] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: which drivers are involved in the raid?
[06:25] <villaf> you mean drives? i think all four 500 gig western digital drives
[06:25] <hitsujiTMO> drives*
[06:25] <villaf> raid 1-0 or raid 10
[06:26] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: ok. sudo fdisk -l 2>&1 | pastebinit
[06:26] <villaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877376/
[06:28] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: sudo mdadm --examine /dev/sd[abcd]1
[06:28] <villaf> sudo: mdadm: command not found
[06:29] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: sudo apt-get install mdadm
[06:29] <villaf> ever since i ran update of ubuntu this issue appeared
[06:31] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: then once its installed: sudo mdadm --examine /dev/sd[abcd]1
[06:32] <villaf> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mdadm
[06:32] <villaf> Reading package lists... Done
[06:32] <villaf> Building dependency tree
[06:32] <villaf> Reading state information... Done
[06:32] <villaf> The following extra packages will be installed:
[06:32] <villaf>   postfix
[06:32] <villaf> Suggested packages:
[06:32] <villaf>   procmail postfix-mysql postfix-pgsql postfix-ldap postfix-pcre sasl2-bin
[06:32] <villaf>   dovecot-common postfix-cdb postfix-doc
[06:32] <villaf> am i supposed to be installing postfix?
[06:32] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: no harm. it wont actually be used
[06:33] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: or: sudo apt-get install mdadm --no-install-recommends
[06:38] <villaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877451/
[06:39] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: sudo mdadm --examine /dev/sd[abcd]2 | pastebinit
[06:39] <villaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877455/
[06:40] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: are you missing b in that last one?
[06:41] <villaf> ?
[06:41] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: are you missing b here? its missing from the output: sudo mdadm --examine /dev/sd[abcd]2 | pastebinit
[06:42] <villaf> mdadm: No md superblock detected on /dev/sdb2.
[06:42] <villaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877474/
[06:42] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: ok. serous problems then
[06:43] <villaf> nice ;-/
[06:44] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: lsblk | pastebinit
[06:44] <villaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877485/
[06:46] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: sorry that last bit should be: sudo blkid | pastebinit
[06:46] <villaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877490/
[06:49] <villaf> any glimmer of hope?
[06:50] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2
[06:51] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: well, it looks like one of the mirrors might be intact at least, ans one of the md parts may not actually be used so it might be ok
[06:51] <villaf> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2
[06:51] <villaf> mdadm: no RAID superblock on /dev/sdb2
[06:51] <villaf> mdadm: /dev/sdb2 has no superblock - assembly aborted
[06:52] <villaf> i know my data is all there
[06:53] <villaf> im able to boot in degraded mode and run apache and web server and all
[06:55] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: might be best to recreate the raid0 on /dev/sda1 + /dev/sda2. then it my work.
[06:56] <villaf> how do i do that
[06:56] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: do you know what params were used to create the raid in the first place? is it documented?
[06:57] <villaf> i have no documentation
[06:57] <villaf> is there anyway we can tell if i boot it in degraded mode?
[06:58] <villaf> when booted in degraded mode i have access to the local filesystem
[06:58] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: not that i know of.
[06:59] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: if you come back in a few hours there's a few peeps that me be able to help better than i can.
[06:59] <villaf> is there anyway i can like mount the array in live cd
[07:00] <villaf> and clone the data onto a clean 500gig ssd?
[07:00] <villaf> and just boot from the ssd with no raid?
[07:01] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 /dev/sdc2 /dev/sdd2
[07:01] <villaf> mdadm: /dev/md1 has been started with 2 drives.
[07:02] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: sudo blkid /dev/md1
[07:03] <villaf> /dev/md1: UUID="49dc4e8e-6cff-4ace-9307-0278ca483289" UUID_SUB="987eb754-f646-5a97-ffe3-d0ba5f63df10" LABEL="server:10" TYPE="linux_raid_member"
[07:04] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: sudo mdadm /dev/md2 /dev/md1
[07:04] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/md2 /dev/md1
[07:05] <villaf> mdadm: An option must be given to set the mode before a second device
[07:05] <villaf>        (/dev/md1) is listed
[07:05] <villaf> mdadm: /dev/md2 has been started with 1 drive (out of 2).
[07:05] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: sorry missed the option ^
[07:05] <villaf> yay! i see it
[07:05] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: sudo blkid /dev/md2
[07:05] <villaf> its mounted
[07:06] <villaf> /dev/md2: UUID="e506b79d-cd73-4d95-a61b-1ee3c169ad17" TYPE="ext4"
[07:07] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: ok. you would need to change partitions in fstab and the grub config in /boot (boot is in one of /dev/sd[abcd]1)
[07:08] <villaf> for the ssd?
[07:08] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: yup
[07:08] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: i have to sign off for a bit. good look
[07:08] <villaf> i have no idea how to do that
[07:09] <hitsujiTMO> villaf: get your data first anyway. thats the most important bit
[11:48] <psivaa> starting from 20140129, trusty server minimal installs for amd64 is ~37MB larger than the i386 ones.	
[11:48] <psivaa> it is roughly 32MB overhead that is being used in the smoke tests.	
[11:48] <psivaa> i could not find the package that started the bloat.	
[11:48] <psivaa> dont know the significance either. but could adjust the smoke test if this is not a big issue
[11:49] <psivaa> jamespage: hallyn rbasak ^. just in case it interests you
[15:18] <hallyn> psivaa: you say "it is roughly 32MB overhead used i the smoke test" - not sure what yo umean by that.
[15:20] <psivaa> hallyn: i meant amd64 limit was 32MB more than that for i386 minimal installs, for install_size:
[15:20] <psivaa> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-dev/ubuntu-test-cases/server-tests-raring/view/head:/testsuites/minimal-virtual/test_install_size/test.py#L43
[15:45] <mgw> I'm trying to figure out why my files in /etc are not being treated as described here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dother.en.html#conffiles
[15:51] <ikonia> mgw: what do you mean ?
[15:51] <ikonia> what's not happening that you expect to happen
[15:56] <mgw> ikonia: depending on the order of dh_installinit and dh_installdeb, they're either always or never replaced
[15:57] <ikonia> do you mean existing files are not replaced ?
[15:58] <mgw> I think I figured it out, I think it was the order in the old package
[18:03] <sarnold> hallyn: is this error message from useradd expected? "useradd: /etc/subgid konnte nicht gesperrt werden; versuchen Sie es später noch einmal." https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/1276714
[18:10] <hallyn> sarnold: hm, no;  did useradd previously hang or something?
[18:10] <hallyn> does /etc/subgid show up in /proc/locks?
[18:10] <hallyn> oh i see:  line above that says "useradd: existing lock file /etc/subgid.lock without a PID
[18:11] <sarnold> hallyn: oh cool! I've not seen /proc/locks before.
[18:12] <hallyn> sarnold: well i don't see anything in dmesg, but it sure looks like a previous usermod/userad mustve crashed
[18:12] <sarnold> hallyn: any idea what would lead to a crash in usermod/useradd?
[18:13] <hallyn> no.  i thought we were pretty well protected
[18:13] <sarnold> same here
[18:13] <hallyn> rechecking termlog
[18:14] <hallyn> well there is: adduser: »/usr/sbin/useradd -d /var/lib/nfs -g nogroup -s /bin/false -u 142 statd« gab den Fehlercode 18 zurück. Programmende.
[18:14] <hallyn> oh that came after the first lockfile
  cani reproduce?
[18:16] <sarnold> I haven't tried
[18:18] <hallyn> well this is messed up.  ec2 host cant' fidn any nfs packages
[18:21] <sarnold> hallyn: in a saucy VM I installed nfs-kernel-server without trouble. it obviously takes more than that alone..
[18:23] <hallyn> sarnold: yeah ditto.  also can'tn reproduce it with 'for i in `seq 1 10`; do sudo usermod -w 90000-99000 ubuntu'
[18:23] <sarnold> hallyn: well, alright, thanks for giving it a look. I'll keep an eye out to see if more like this show up..
[18:24] <hallyn> sarnold: now really i guess usermod should remove the empty lock file if it exists.
[18:24] <hallyn> sarnold: 'touch /etc/subgid.lock; usermod -w 99000-1000000 ubuntu' will never recover without manual intervention.  not sure if that's wanted
[18:25] <sarnold> hallyn: it feels like cleaning up after stale locks is expected these days, but I understand the hesitation..
[18:28] <hallyn> might be worth asking for his /var/log/syslog{,.*}
[20:31] <Underbyte> Quick question: when do the rules (conf files) for the cgrules and cgred daemon take effect? Do i need to restart my box? or will restarting the daemons suffice?
[20:34] <jrwren> not what I want to see on Ec2: Feb  5 20:33:22 heed-1 kernel: [84730.984521] apt-get[6130]: segfault at 7f9fff1dd154 ip 00007fa0004b41c9 sp 00007fff37c00f70 error 6 in libapt-pkg.so.4.12.0[7fa0003df000+121000]
[20:34] <sarnold> almost nothing requires restarting the whole machine -- kernel upgrades require it, libc upgrades mostly require it. Most evreything else could be done some way to not require reboot..
[20:34] <sarnold> jrwren: o_O odd.
[20:35] <sarnold> Underbyte: so, based on that, I think restarting the daemon should be sufficient :)
[20:35] <jrwren> sarnold: very odd. this makes me very sad.
[20:39] <jrwren> oh well, worked around
[20:41] <sarnold> kirkland: I thought you'd like this http://blog.cr.yp.to/20140205-entropy.html
[23:12] <kermit> how can i make apt install things without worrying about some unrelated broken dependancies?
[23:13] <sarnold> kermit: what do you mean?
[23:14] <bekks> kermit: if you do so, you would break your box.
[23:14] <bekks> kermit: dependencies and the unability to ignore them being broken saves you from breaking your box.
[23:15] <bekks> kermit: Whats the actual problem leading to your question?
[23:15] <kermit> not being able to install things with apt is fairly broken..  http://pastebin.com/M0RpwNVH    i dont want it to touch my pidgin setup, i want to keep the version i'm using.
[23:16] <sarnold> how on earth did you get your system so broken in the first place? o_O
[23:17] <bekks> o.O
[23:17] <bekks> Wow, that looks broken far beyond messed up pidgin deps.
[23:17] <sarnold> I mean, I can appreciate juts wanting to leave all that mess alone and getting bcrypt installed, but .. wow.
[23:20] <sarnold> kermit: my first thought it abusing the equivs package to build up some fake packages with matching version numbers, but .. I don't think that would work well, since you want the real packages installed.
[23:20] <sarnold> kermit: that'll be difficult to maintain.
[23:20] <sarnold> kermit: good luck :) time for me to run