[00:00] there are quite a few development boards that are compatible [00:00] just not raspb pi [00:00] rsalveti, know of any board that are compatible [00:00] barry: ok, so IIRC, cgoldberg's branch ships two binary packages, so you can choose which you want to install. doesn't that get you what you want anyway? [00:00] thomi, do you have a file to look at? I seem to be missing what file you're talking about :) [00:00] bschaefer: well, I'm asking because i thought it was in lp:unity, but I can't find it anymore [00:00] maybe it got deleted, or maybe I just dreamed the whole thing [00:01] haha, this would have been in the AP tests? [00:01] thomi: if eventually we can drop python-windowmocker *and* /usr/bin/window-mocker is python3, then i can live with that for now [00:01] barry: well, I think it's probably /usr/bin/window-mocker3, but yeah :) [00:01] bschaefer: yeah [00:02] olli: beaglebone, beagleboard, wandboard, quickstart, pandaboard... [00:02] rsalveti, thx [00:02] bschaefer: IIRC, we had some failures with the launcher and Gtk apps that had odd X11 window flags set [00:02] olli: http://www.cnx-software.com/development-kits/linux-development-boards/ [00:02] thomi, right, we had an issue where umm gtk patched their calc program [00:02] bschaefer: so you wrote a window-mocker Gtk backend that allowed you to set those odd window-flags [00:02] to only allow 1 instance [00:02] no, this was different [00:03] ahh well, it seems like we'll keep the py2 version around for unity7 for a while anyway :) [00:03] thomi: yeah, except that i don't think we want both. but if that's the most expedient way to move this transition forward, then i can live with it for now. we just need to get things unblocked :/ [00:03] thomi, hmm [00:03] thomi, sadface, no bells are ringing at all in my head... [00:03] barry: I don't understand why we don't want both [00:04] bschaefer: no worries, thanks for the help anyway [00:04] barry: I can understand not wanting both installed (or either installed 99% of the time, TBH) [00:04] thomi, you're welcome! [00:04] thomi: for the short term, if necessary, that's okay. but in the long term, we need to get rid of the py2 version and move all the deps off of it, otherwise we'll still be pulling in python2 [00:04] barry: but to cut off py2 support for no good technical reason (none that I can see, anyway) [00:05] barry: but only if you install the python2 package... if nothing uses it, then the worst case is there's a pakcage in the archive that nobody installs :) [00:05] thomi: right, the point was whether anything imported windowmocker as a module. if it's just an executable you run, then it doesn't matter. if you import it, then yeah, we need both for now. unity7 *does* import windowmocker, but for silly reasons that could be fixed ;) [00:05] yeah [00:07] thomi: okay, i really don't care whose mp wins, as long as we have a path forward ;) at worst, we'll carry py2 cruft around we don't need for a while. let me review cgoldberg's branch and if there's anything i think missing, i will comment on his mp. [00:07] thomi: eod for me now though. i'll do this first thing in the morning [00:07] barry: thanks. I'll be on national holiday tomorrow [00:08] barry: I've already reviewed his branch, I think it's good to go [00:08] thomi: then jfdi! :) [00:08] thomi: i can always mp any repairs later, if necessary [00:09] heh === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [00:13] rom may flash stock recovery on boot.fix? I don't know i need choose yes-disable recovery flash or No? === diegoyam is now known as Guest14157 === tommy is now known as Guest50586 [00:45] question @anyone from canonical: [00:45] is it a designchoice to have apps start with the bottom menu open? [00:45] Hi everybody. [00:48] I have a question [00:49] @principiante go ahead and ask [00:49] Is possible install ubuntu touch on ipad 2? [00:50] principiante: if it's not on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices , no one has done it before. [00:50] I dont think so. not with very major recoding [00:50] principiante: and if Android doesn't run on it, it's probably not possible. [00:51] matv1: yes, they are testing toolbar discovery. So at the moment, the toolbar starts opened, and then collapses after some seconds. It's not the final decided solution. [00:52] ahah glad to hear you were waiting for my feedback to make the final decision :) [00:52] i dont like it btw [00:53] nhaines do u know if its an all or nothing choice? [00:54] i mean should it work for either all apps or none? [00:54] principiante_: No, unless you can get an Android 4.3/4.4 build running on the iPad 2 first. [00:55] Android?. You mena Idroid? [00:55] mean* [00:59] I have an ipad 2, but it is a brick and I cant use it [01:00] why is it a brick? [01:00] matv1: it's a framework decision, so it is for all apps with toolbars. [01:00] matv1: I don't think anybody likes it, but I don't think anything's been done about it since it was implemented as a test. [01:01] principiante_: no, we mean Android 4.4. Cyanogenmod, specifically. [01:01] nhaines can you briefly enlighten me about what the advantage would be? [01:01] principiante_: I mean Android - (the current) Ubuntu Touch builds use the Android low-level infrastructure. [01:02] matv1: that users can see that there is a toolbar with extra commands available, and that they can swipe up from the bottom of the screen to access it. [01:02] okay [01:02] anyone would have worked that out after 5 minutes imo [01:02] matv1: it's the same reason when you launch a desktop application in Unity, the application's menu shows for 3 seconds and then fades to the application title. [01:02] Only if they *try* for 5 minutes. [01:03] matv1: what RAOF said. [01:03] mhm [01:03] alright. lets wait and see [01:04] matv1: if you have some alternate ideas for how to improve toolbar discovery, please post on the mailing list. :) [01:04] (I don't like the current behavior, but I don't have any suggestions, either.) [01:05] nhaines I will think about it certainly [01:05] matv1: great. :) [01:06] still another Q : i was abraod the other day. I found no way of getting dataroaming to work. Is that a known bug? didnt see anything on LP but maybe i missed it [01:06] when is ubuntu touch finally going to be released? [01:06] like on new devices [01:06] My ipad 2, just on and the setup screen appears and asks me to connect to itunes. I connect to itunes and asks me the apple id and password. This second ipad buy it online and not the apple id and password. [01:07] FuuqUmist: that is up to each individual hardware vendor to announce and decide. [01:08] matv1: that's a good question! I just don't know about that one. It's probably worth filing a bug or posting about on the ubuntu-phone mailing list, because it's easily overlooked but an important feature. [01:09] Yeah. Data roaming is not going to be tested by everyday use :) [01:09] mhaines. okay i will. I did bug reports on LP before but they took ages to even get triaged though [01:10] is the mailing list better for that? [01:10] matv1: this is a feature request, probably against ubuntu-system-settings. It's just a tracking bug, but make sure to post about it too. :) [01:10] nhaines okay [01:11] nhaines. a feature request?? are you sure? [01:11] all the settings to sugest it should work are there [01:11] They just dont work [01:11] for me [01:12] are those config settings just placeholders? [01:12] I thought we didnt do that anymore? [01:12] Yes, place holders until they can be integrated into the backend, and not everything is even possible yet. [01:13] nhaines I see. thank you [01:13] If it's important to you, I'd get on the mailing list and ask about it. [01:15] Thank you guys. [01:16] i am assuming you live in the states :) when you live in europe dataroaming will be a must have for very many people imo [01:16] i will get it on the mailing list [01:23] matv1: yes, the last time I was out of the country, I made sure data roaming was off (a very important feature!) but now that T-Mobile has free international roaming data, the next time I am out of country I will want to have it on (equally important feature! ;) ). [01:27] nhaines: agree! thnks again, I will get both points on the mailing list tomorow [01:40] I'm running Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit. I tried installing the fastboot package for installing on the phone and got the following error [01:40] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install phablet-tools android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package android-tools-adb is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source Package android-tools-fastboot is not available, but is r [01:42] How do you install the phablet tools? [01:48] News says nexus 7 (2013) will be supported, install page says nexus 7 (2013) is not supported, which is true? [01:48] gnuts: both are true. [01:48] righteous. [01:49] Nexus 7 (2013) testing has been ongoing for two or three weeks now, and is not finished. [01:49] I'm thinking of buying one for this, sounds like 2013 is the way to go. [01:50] is there a preview to play with? [01:50] If you are going to buy a tablet, yes, 2013 is the way to go. (Also: the only one on sale.) [01:51] yes, but one can always pick up older hardware [01:51] nhaines: thank you. [01:52] gnuts: yes, but I think they're dropping support for the original Nexus. I know my Galaxy Nexus is about to go. :( [01:52] gnuts: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg06116.html [01:53] Please know that once it's really stable, it'll be featured, so that link will get you Nexus 7 (2013) support, but it may not work very well. [01:53] Of course, you can always reflash Android at any time. :) === FuuqUmist is now known as FuuqUmiist [01:59] thanks, i found one on craigslist, will go get it and try this out! [01:59] gnuts: great! Good luck! It should be really nice when Ubuntu 14.04 comes out. :) (the phone/tablet interface won't be an LTS) [03:22] hihi. I followed the instructions at https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg06116.html . I sideloaded in (5) and rebooted, but I just get the Google logo and an unlocked padlock. What do? === vying is now known as Guest12339 [04:02] oh, I redownloaded trusty-preinstalled-touch-armhf.zip and got a different md5sum, let's try that again... [04:04] rww: must be adaptive technology. [04:25] INFO:phablet-flash:Device detected as /sbin/sh: getprop: not found [04:25] ERROR:phablet-flash:Unsupported device, autodetect fails device [04:30] Boo, still getting the Google logo screen with an open padlock, following the instructions at https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg06116.html , after step 5 (which I sideloaded in) === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === SonikkuAmerica is now known as S-USA|Lubuntu [05:37] Are there any tablets with ubuntu or ubuntu touch preloaded yet? [05:37] Nope. [05:37] any non-samsung ones which I can easily install it on yet? [05:39] nexus 7 but not the last hw release, the older [05:40] Dell's new tablet looks REALLY good for ubuntu but there's no driver suprt :-/ [05:41] And all those damn tegra things :-/ [05:41] BLACKBERRY WHY YOU LOCK PLAYBOOK? They was stupid, people would ewat those up for andriod and ubuntu === S-USA|Lubuntu_ is now known as S-USA|Lubuntu [06:01] rsalveti: Long shot, but are you there? === vying is now known as Guest77853 === tvoss is now known as tvoss|test === tvoss|test is now known as tvoss [07:32] pitti, good morning :) [07:33] hey tvoss, wie gehts? === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === xhack69 is now known as Willman === Guest38143 is now known as JamesTait === JamesTait is now known as Guest22694 === Guest22694 is now known as JamesTait === tvoss is now known as tvoss|test === tvoss|test is now known as tvoss === lool- is now known as lool [09:35] can i disable haptic feedback somehow? it is pretty annoying [09:53] hye [10:06] latest trusty seems to buggy!? Cannot open any software, settings etc... === timppa_ is now known as timppa [10:07] tvoss: I prepared a MP for the crash we discussed last week, now that location-api and platform-api are healthy again [10:07] https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/platform-api/crash-without-hw/+merge/204838 [10:09] timppa, known and being fixed [10:10] ok, good! :) How can I update it once it is fixed? [10:10] commandline ;) [10:11] ogra_: ok, it's fine [10:11] system-image-cli -v (note that the download doesnt have any output, just wait patiently) [10:11] pitti, yup, thank you ... [10:12] ogra_: any eta on new image? [10:12] pitti, btw, your nbd issue ... what i did in the past was running an nbd server as a user with a port around 8000 and then connecting an nbd-client to localhost to the same port ... [10:13] pitti, that used to give me full control over the device [10:13] ogra_: ah, I think I experimented with that, but it didn't get me that far; but thanks for pointing out, I'll try that again [10:13] timppa, not yet, hopoefully throughout the day [10:13] ogra_: libguestfs is a rather heavy solution, I doubt that we can easily get it installed in DCs [10:14] pitti, not sure if wouter hasnt probably locked that down nowadays though [10:14] ok, I think I'll need to swap my sim to another phone... :/ First time since 13.10 release... [10:14] (seems rather like a security hole) [10:15] ogra_: how so? [10:15] ogra_: I mean, I have the raw image accessible to my user already; but it's compressed, so you need the qemu logic to decode that [10:16] well i havent made up any attack idea :) [10:16] just smells a bit fishy to be able to work around a system restriction (only root can mount nbd usually) [10:17] ogra_: yes; my guess is that with nbd-client you wouldn't mount them in the first place, but directly talk to the daemon [10:17] nbd-client just creates a new node in /dev ... [10:17] asac, just had the terminal tests passing [10:17] but using the way above, owned by the user running nbd server === tvoss is now known as tvoss|test === tvoss|test is now known as tvoss [10:26] tvoss: nice one [10:31] anybody has an idea waht could be the cause of this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc-android-config/+bug/1276373 [10:31] Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1276373 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1276373). The error has been logged [10:32] kaimast, thats why we dont support dist-upgrade on the resdonly images [10:32] *readonly [10:33] (dpkg uses hardlinks when replacing files ... hardlinks dont work across partition boundaries) [10:33] yeah i suppose i have to wipe the phone :/ [10:36] sorry, but i have to wontfix it ... [10:37] (you could reopen it as whishlist against system-image perhaps, but since it is caused by a low level design decision i dont think there is any fix planned unless we probably change the image design) [10:40] nah its okay [10:40] i had this problem taht when i wanted to update cyanogenmod it always booted into ubuntu [10:41] i think xnox told me there are future plans (probably in the far future though) to make it work by using a dpkg overlay [10:41] i thought it may be resolved by a more recent version of ubuntu touch, but OTA updates didn work [10:41] that would be cool. especially for unsupported devices [10:41] thanks anways [10:43] will install the update via fastboot and hope that this works [10:43] kInOzAwA, regarding your other bug btw ... i think unity8 doesnt work with SF anymore === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:43] err [10:43] kaimast, ^^^^ [10:43] sorry kInOzAwA [10:44] yeah i guess [10:44] using mir on Gnexus is painful [10:44] the wonderful world of PVR graphics [10:44] :) [10:52] yay the cyanogenmod update worked. at least i can use android again (dist-upgrade also broke that :) ) === JoseeAntonioR is now known as jose [11:02] Morning all [11:21] ogra_, ehm, i just OTA updated and now the bootloader is asking me weird things, is that expected? [11:22] it's asking me "ROM may flash stock recovery on boot. Fix?" [11:22] what does it ask you ? be careful if it wants to take you out to dinner or something ... [11:22] via OTA ? [11:22] thast weird [11:23] i didnt have that on my upgrade 2h ago [11:23] the whole OTA process looks different though [11:23] but that is probably just UI change [11:23] mhr3_, what device is that and from which image version did you come ? [11:23] mako, trusty-proposed from yesterday [11:23] yeah, i had the nice new UI too here [11:24] ogra_, it's a new device though, first time OTAing on it [11:24] the install should have put in the right recovery [11:24] btw, the image you are upgrading to is broken [11:24] (apps wont start at all) [11:24] ah.. great :P [11:24] asac, didrocks, sil2100 found the issue: dbus-cpp is compiled with gcc 4.8 while location service is 4.7. Need to adjust dbus-cpp to compile against 4.7 now [11:25] tvoss, why not the other way round ? [11:25] ogra_, anyway, i guess i just tell it that it's ok? [11:26] mhr3_, well, if it breaks you need to re-flash ... no biggie i guess [11:26] ogra_, because platform-api is stuck with 4.7 [11:26] tvoss: so, would it be enough that we rebuild location-service with gcc 4.8? Or do we need platform-api be rebuilt with 4.8 as well? [11:26] * ogra_ isnt sure what "stock recovery" means in that context ... you need the ubuntu recovery [11:27] sil2100, that would require platform-api to be transitioned to 4.8, too. Easier to adjust dbus-cpp to be compiled with 4.7 [11:27] sil2100, well, there might be a reason for platform-api keeping 4.7 (it stretches into the android side iirc) [11:27] better wait for ricmm and rsalveti to be around [11:27] ogra_: ok [11:28] ogra_, hm, well, things seem to work... minus the launching of the apps [11:28] for the time being i think tvoss has the right plan ... [11:28] tvoss: so... let's rebuild dbus-cpp then [11:28] will just be one more package to transition [11:28] sil2100, on my way [11:28] sil2100, dpkg-buildpackage running on host [11:28] tvoss: thanks! Nice catch! [11:28] sil2100, asac, didrocks it is reproducible on the host, too [11:28] mhr3_, for the next upgrade: adb shell system-image-cli -v ... and be patient, the download doesnt print anything [11:29] ogra_, does that enable some extra logging? [11:29] mhr3_, -v does, but not for the download manager, only for system-image itself [11:30] ogra_, right, hopefully i won't forget :) [11:35] ogra_: Is there any Ubuntu Touch phone announced? [11:36] I was expecting something in CES 2014 [11:40] tvoss: thats the reason for the looping? [11:40] do you know why? [11:41] feels like it shouldnt cause troubles to combine 4.7 and 4.8 binaries [11:41] OttOmanTR, nope, not yet [11:43] asac, it's not looping, there is an abi mismatch for libstdc++, testing locally that building everything with gcc 4.7 actually fixes the issue [11:44] tvoss: really? feels like something we might want to investigate [11:44] asac, we already know about that issue, and yes, transitioning platform api to 4.8 is a long-standing task [11:45] tvoss: who is "we" ? [11:45] doko? steve? [11:46] asac, we as in phonedations, and an abi mismatch and issues arising from mixing gcc versions is kind of expected [11:46] i am not sure all agree with that :) [11:46] we should run that through slangasek and doko [11:46] asac, sure, happy to put that on my plate [11:46] lets see when he gets on === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:39] tvoss: #ubuntu-devel :) === ThatGraemeGuy_ is now known as ThatGraemeGuy [12:49] hi [12:49] anybody here confident with the emulator? [12:49] i have an issue when i run the mka command [12:49] following these instructions [12:50] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator [12:50] in the ubuntu emulator ? [12:50] hi ogra_ [12:50] i get this error [12:50] note that wikipages might be outdated :) [12:50] /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL [12:50] collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status [12:50] make: *** [/home/nocomp/ubuntutouch/emulator/out/host/linux-x86/obj/lib/libGLES_CM_translator.so] Error 1 [12:50] hi guys. I'm trying to get sound working on N5. I followed the porting guide on 'https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting' and created the right path with the correct named conf-file. i also copied the 'hifi' and 'voicecall' file. what should I do now? i guess I should modify the 'hw:....' sections. any ideas how I can set the right values? maybe one of the N5 guys here (Tassadar cwayne rsalveti shiggitay)? [12:50] never had an error in the whole process before [12:51] been ggogleing this error [12:51] no logs nowhere [12:51] :/ [12:52] * ogra_ has never built the emulator ... i'm a lazy bastard and just use the binaries [12:52] probably rsalveti can shed some ligt [12:52] *light too [12:52] you mean there is another alternative for run the emulator? [12:52] err, indeed === beuno_ is now known as beuno [12:52] hmm [12:53] /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL [12:53] that means you don't have a valid GL driver in your host [12:53] :/ [12:53] i tried this [12:53] http://davidplanella.org/ubuntu-emulator-quickstart-guide/ [12:53] do you have a broken nvidia/ati driver installation? [12:53] otherwise that would be fixed by installing the mesa drivers [12:54] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-emulator [12:54] libgl1-mesa-glx [12:54] E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-emulator [12:54] oki [12:54] i try [12:54] thxx ogra_ [12:54] Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. [12:54] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 98 not upgraded. [12:54] nocomp@pirebox:~/ubuntutouch/emulator$ [12:54] nocomp, hmm, i thought that was in some PPA for non-14.04 users [12:55] hmmm [12:55] lemme check [12:55] thxxx [12:55] "Alternatively, if you are running a stable release such as Ubuntu 13.10, you can install the emulator by manually downloading its packages first: [12:55] " [12:55] click on the "show me how" [12:55] it will show you how ;) [12:55] oki i ll have a look [12:55] thxxx [12:56] where do you see that ogra_ ? [12:56] nocomp, on the blogpost [12:56] k [12:57] in the "installing the emulator" paragraph === Shiggs|GPad is now known as Shiggitay|Gpad [13:00] does anybody know how to exchange one word with another one in a text file in a very simple way? [13:00] FuLgOrE_, with text editor find and replace [13:01] ah, I'll do that with adb push and pull. should be the easiest way for me [13:02] then I can use gedit for find&replace [13:02] you could use sed ... but if you are not used to it it can cause more damage than being helpful [13:05] FuLgOrE_: did you manage to convince WiFi not to get new mac address every time? [13:05] sergiusens, are you back today ? (i thought you were off til end of the week) === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [13:07] ogra_, nope, just yesterday; that's ji [13:07] jim [13:07] Tassadar: no, I didn't. First try was to add the /persist path to fstab. It mounted correctly but I guess too late. Second I used an updated system and deleted everything below SWAP in fstab to let it recreate automatically. this made the same. It mounts too late. than I unmounted the /persist and created the /persist/wifi/.macaddr in the / mount point [13:07] nothing helped [13:08] but rsalveti is working on a fix [13:08] yup, still in progress [13:08] doing many things in parallel [13:08] sergiusens, well, then i'll hand off fixing bug 1275690 to you (i was planning to look into it later today) [13:08] bug 1275690 in qtmultimedia-opensource-src-touch (Ubuntu) "qtmultimedia-touch packages don't uninstall cleanly" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1275690 [13:08] also trying to publish the entire source code [13:08] my last try could have failed because I maybe used the wrong .macaddr file (I created one by myself, a simple text file) [13:09] and my linux knowledge is very limited [13:10] ogra_, why is that critical anyways? It's a non supported use case and for read only only? [13:10] sergiusens, well, the QA team hacked together weird scripts to work around it for their Qt 5,2 testing ... [13:10] we should make sure to have the package DTRT ... [13:11] and its a trivial task of renaming the files [13:11] would be nice to get that fixed for a clean QA and transition [13:11] oh well [13:11] sergiusens, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6826187/ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:13] rsalveti, wrt to clean transition, shouldn't they be building an image with the ppa added? [13:13] sergiusens, working on that [13:13] there is no tool to do that atm [13:14] * ogra_ is finishing the rootstock system-image support today [13:14] and i'll provide them images then [13:15] sergiusens: yup, but we need to make sure people can test it without any hacks before we do the switch [13:15] Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. [13:15] yeah [13:15] when opening the bug link :-P [13:15] it's giving a lot of timeouts [13:15] db server upgrade [13:15] the fallback machine is slow ... should be better soon [13:16] actually, it's down now [13:18] sergiusens, well,, my comment just says that the postrm files need to be moved to prerm files ... (simple rename) since else the dpkg-divert --remove runs after the files are gone ... which will cause the diversion to stay [13:18] (no need to open the bug for that ;) ) [13:19] ogra_, right; I can't branch the pkg branch either :-P [13:19] hah [13:21] sil2100, ping [13:23] didrocks, hey! is there a new image to test today ? [13:23] or are we testing a new image ? [13:23] rsalveti: regarding the wifi bug on N5. do you already have an idea how to fix that? do you think to recursive copy the /persist mmc... to the / mount point would temporary fix that? [13:25] om26er: hi! [13:25] ups... I shouldn't have made updates today. now I also have the problem that no app can work anymore :-/ [13:25] sil2100, same question, are we testing a new image ? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:26] om26er: so, actually the current image is badly broken, so no testing until we get a new one with all the fixes built [13:26] om26er: we still wait for dbus-cpp fix from tvoss [13:27] sil2100, so in a few hours ? or tomorrow ? [13:27] om26er: I would say in a few hours even (we hope) [13:29] sil2100, asked since its a national holiday here and I came in to check if there is an image to test, so I guess I can relax ;) [13:33] raaaaaaaaaa can t find the bloody ppa [13:33] drives me mad [13:33] Laney: hi! Do you think there is a chance of getting the latest syncevolution (1.3.99.7) to Ubuntu Touch (I guess it will need to hit the desktop as well, then)? === mardy_ is now known as mardy [13:34] nocomp, what ppa ? [13:35] mardy: ummmmm is it a development release? [13:37] Laney: mmm... it actually seems to be unreleased, let me check... [13:37] ogra_, for install the emulator [13:38] nocomp, didnt you read the page i gave you ? [13:38] http://davidplanella.org/ubuntu-emulator-quickstart-guide/ [13:38] you didn t gave me the page and couldn t find it [13:38] Laney: so, it has been released on January 22nd; it's the last release candidate before 1.4 [13:38] thxx i read [13:38] scroll to "Installing the emulator" [13:39] i check [13:39] then click on "show me how" [13:39] thxxxx [13:39] follow the 11 steps that expand when you click on "show me how" [13:39] (no PPA involved in that) [13:43] dpm: du -a /var | sort -n -r | head -n 10 [13:44] perfect ogra_ seems to work [13:44] thxx a lot! [13:44] welcome [13:46] simply to copy the 3 ucm config files and exchange the hardware name to the correct one was a stupid idea. it didn't work. Is there a way so copy something from android or cyanogenmod to get sound working? how knows something about the UCM files? [13:46] -so+to [13:46] Mirv, hey, seen my e-mail about a fix for the crash in QtWebKit 5.2 ? [13:47] FuLgOrE_, the only person that knows UCM in and out is diwic ... and he is really busy with other stuff === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:47] FuLgOrE_, and android uses a different sound system [13:47] so copying anything over wont help [13:48] ogra_ thanks for the information. what a pitty. so it will take a while for an unsupported device to get such things working, I guess :-/ [13:48] well, open a bug, attach amixer output etc to it ... [13:48] (there is a debugging alsa wikipage somewhere) [13:49] probably diwic finds the time to look into it if he has all data available easily [13:49] so nobody will be unhappy if I open a bug special for unsupported hardware? [13:49] nah [13:49] open it against alsa-lib [13:49] and mention UCM in the description [13:54] Laney: I talked to the maintainer now, he plans to release SyncEvolution 1.4 in 1-2 weeks [14:02] bfiller: hi! Do you have some minutes to chat about SyncEvolution (here in IRC is good) [14:02] rsalveti, https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/phablet-extras/postrm_fix/+merge/204948 [14:02] sergiusens: did you test doing the manual upgrade? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [14:03] sergiusens, i'm pretty sure you need to do it in prerm because else your files are gone [14:03] right [14:03] rsalveti, so want me to add the script ogra gave me without the force? [14:03] script ? [14:03] the pastebin [14:03] but basically, yeah [14:03] RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [14:03] i only wanted to show you the gross hack they use :) [14:04] emulator: Kernel parameters: qemu.gles=1 qemu=1 console=ttyS0 android.qemud=ttyS1 androidboot.console=ttyS2 ndns=1 [14:04] emulator: Trace file name is not set [14:04]