| Symmetria | YAY! | 04:45 |
|---|---|---|
| Symmetria | Mirror server hardware arrived in London | 04:45 |
| Symmetria | and is on its way to Kenya | 04:45 |
| bduk1 | Morning everyone | 05:23 |
| inetpro | good morning | 05:47 |
| Squirm | morning all | 05:58 |
| inetpro | superfly: I rest my case | 06:10 |
| inetpro | vodacom q3 results are confirming for me why we still need to see a massive reduction in price of data | 06:12 |
| inetpro | despite all the inefficiencies they still manage to grow in revenue far too much | 06:13 |
| magespawn | good morning | 06:14 |
| inetpro | hi magespawn | 06:14 |
| inetpro | VD data revenue up 40.7% | 06:14 |
| inetpro | VC* | 06:15 |
| magespawn | that sounds good, should by shares | 06:15 |
| * inetpro calls it exploitation | 06:15 | |
| inetpro | the average data used up 83.5% to 254 MB pm | 06:17 |
| magespawn | s/by/buy | 06:19 |
| Squirm | nuvolari: ? | 06:20 |
| magespawn | some would argue that you do not need to use the product if you do not want to | 06:20 |
| magespawn | i would argue that the cheaper the price the more people will use, and more people will use the product in total | 06:21 |
| superfly | inetpro: ? | 06:23 |
| Squirm | nuvolari: I'm sure you could get away with something like a USB webcam in a waterproof housing of some sort. Run motion on your linux machine, you can configure it to start recording when it does detect motion. | 06:24 |
| Squirm | You could also probably find a 4 channel DVR and cameras for a good price at something like the china mall in Durbs | 06:26 |
| inetpro | superfly: just referring back to our meeting the other day | 06:26 |
| inetpro | I said price of data should still come down | 06:26 |
| superfly | oh right | 06:26 |
| superfly | yes | 06:26 |
| inetpro | these guys are still smiling all the way to the bank without really improving it in a way that the public can notice a difference | 06:28 |
| magespawn | indeed, looking after their bottom line, as always | 06:28 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning peeps | 06:30 |
| inetpro | good morning ThatGraemeGuy | 06:30 |
| inetpro | wb bduk1 | 06:32 |
| magespawn | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 07:00 |
| magespawn | inetpro that munin seems to be gem, i think you would make a fair teacher/mentor in the the practical side of network admin | 07:11 |
| inetpro | eh | 07:11 |
| inetpro | magespawn: glad you enjoy it | 07:11 |
| magespawn | indeed and a search for it also led me to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_network_monitoring_systems | 07:12 |
| magespawn | and so on | 07:12 |
| magespawn | and this http://www.networkmanagementsoftware.com/network-management-software-smackdown | 07:13 |
| inetpro | munin does just enough for my purposes but on a larger scale you would probably want other tools | 07:13 |
| magespawn | at the moment there is only 8 desktops on this network | 07:16 |
| * inetpro doesn't see the point why anyone would want to buy a commercial product for the same purpose | 07:20 | |
| inetpro | at least not on a small scale | 07:20 |
| inetpro | and as you noticed there are quite a number of choices available right there | 07:22 |
| inetpro | would be quite a mission to try and investigate each one of them | 07:22 |
| magespawn | yup there are a lot, but i will choose a few, and work my way through them when i have time | 07:23 |
| Symmetria | sup | 07:23 |
| inetpro | wb Symmetria | 07:23 |
| magespawn | i have used spiceworks before, so i can use that as a benchwark of sorts | 07:23 |
| magespawn | hi Symmetria | 07:23 |
| Symmetria | so confirmed, mirror server hardware should leave London today for Kenya | 07:23 |
| Symmetria | all 150 terabytes of disk space and the giant server :) yay | 07:24 |
| Vince-0 | ! | 07:24 |
| Symmetria | 10gig network card | 07:24 |
| inetpro | magespawn: most of what I have learned to know was from resources like this channel | 07:24 |
| Symmetria | 192gig of ram | 07:24 |
| Symmetria | dual 8 core xeon cpus | 07:25 |
| Symmetria | 36 4 terabyte drives in arrays and a couple more internally | 07:25 |
| inetpro | Vince-0: hi | 07:25 |
| Symmetria | and raided SSD's to boot off | 07:25 |
| inetpro | Symmetria: interesting that you would use raided SSD's | 07:27 |
| inetpro | *to boot off | 07:27 |
| inetpro | Symmetria: what OS are you installing? | 07:28 |
| Symmetria | inetpro just makes things a little quicker and considering the investment in the server it didnt make much difference to the price | 07:28 |
| Symmetria | ubuntu server | 07:28 |
| inetpro | interesting | 07:29 |
| inetpro | you really need that much ram? | 07:30 |
| inetpro | would be very interesting to know more details of your setup | 07:32 |
| Symmetria | inetpro the ram is to stop disk thrashing when doing releases | 07:43 |
| Symmetria | so its all cached in ram | 07:43 |
| Symmetria | inetpro basically the mirror server is a dell R720 | 07:52 |
| Symmetria | with dual xeon cpus | 07:52 |
| Symmetria | and 192 gig of ram | 07:52 |
| Symmetria | 10gig network card plugged straight into the backbone | 07:52 |
| Symmetria | behind the server are 3 dell powervault units | 07:52 |
| Symmetria | on dual channel eSAS connections | 07:52 |
| Symmetria | each of those powervault units contains 12 x 4TB terabyte drives and the PV3200 has raid offload processors on it as well | 07:53 |
| inetpro | cool | 07:53 |
| inetpro | and the software setup? | 07:54 |
| Symmetria | software setup is ubuntu server, ftp server will be vsftpd, web server I'm still debating, probably lighttpd | 07:56 |
| Symmetria | we could easily run apache on there but I prefer not to run something so heavy for serving content | 07:57 |
| charl | good morning | 07:57 |
| charl | Maaz_: coffee on | 07:57 |
| * Maaz_ puts the kettle on | 07:58 | |
| charl | hi Symmetria | 07:58 |
| Symmetria | morning charl | 07:58 |
| Symmetria | I've also got permission from UFS to do initial syncs from them so we can do those at pretty high speed | 07:58 |
| Symmetria | and Im working with sourceforge to get another mirror online there as well | 07:59 |
| Symmetria | and Im looking at dedicating 2 x STM-1 to this project to europe purely for sync, alternatively I have a few hundred meg of bandwidth via the far east I can use | 07:59 |
| charl | Symmetria: building mirrors again? fun stuff :) | 08:01 |
| charl | where are you gonna be running them from? your basement? :) | 08:01 |
| Symmetria | charl, lol, its going into the kenyan data centre, and it makes mirror.ac.za setup look like a joke | 08:02 |
| Maaz_ | Coffee's ready for charl! | 08:02 |
| charl | Maaz_: thanks | 08:02 |
| Maaz_ | charl: Sure | 08:02 |
| charl | Symmetria: sounds good ! | 08:02 |
| charl | i was listening to a talk by jason appelbaum at the 30c3 yesterday evening | 08:03 |
| charl | absolutely shocking what the nsa has been up to, especially with the firmware hacking and router exploitations | 08:03 |
| Vince-0 | Haai mense | 08:13 |
| charl | hi Vince-0 | 08:13 |
| Vince-0 | wat mekeer | 08:14 |
| inetpro | Symmetria: I guess rsync is the one app that will probably need most of that RAM? | 08:14 |
| Symmetria | inetpro rsync needs a fair amount, but its more about the tcp window sizes | 08:17 |
| Symmetria | when doing syncs to get proper throughput from international points over latency, you need large tcp windows | 08:18 |
| Symmetria | and the moment you let your tcp window sizes scale, you start to chew through ram | 08:18 |
| Symmetria | and linux gets very grumpy if you run outta ram for your tcp windows, it doesn't swap it properly and the box kernel panics | 08:18 |
| inetpro | ok | 08:18 |
| inetpro | so you constantly tweak it or you have a standard setting? | 08:19 |
| Symmetria | standard setting, 3meg default, scaling up to 64meg | 08:20 |
| inetpro | what settings do you tweak? | 08:29 |
| inetpro | sorry for being lazy here | 08:29 |
| inetpro | but obviously I don't have the same needs here and will probably never need to go there | 08:30 |
| Symmetria | hold a sec, will give you details in a second | 08:30 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 08:31 |
| * inetpro kicks his self | 08:31 | |
| inetpro | never say never | 08:31 |
| inetpro | never is a long time | 08:31 |
| Symmetria | net.ipv4.tcp_rmem | 08:31 |
| Symmetria | net.ipv4.tcp_wmem | 08:32 |
| Symmetria | net.core.rmem_max | 08:32 |
| Symmetria | net.core.wmem_max | 08:32 |
| Symmetria | those primarily and a few other settings | 08:32 |
| charl | interesting | 08:32 |
| inetpro | cool, thanks for that | 08:33 |
| magespawn | never is all the time that ever is | 08:52 |
| magespawn | Symmetria, i do not even understand what you are saying there | 08:54 |
| magespawn | okay i see | 08:55 |
| magespawn | wow turned up some awesome amounts of info just from searching those topics | 08:59 |
| magespawn | more learning awesome | 08:59 |
| charl | hi magespawn | 09:24 |
| Symmetria | https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t31/1492162_10152016874845528_930544194_o.jpg <=== kenya at its best | 09:41 |
| charl | yeah that does really look kenya | 09:43 |
| charl | nice wide angle photo | 09:43 |
| charl | but low res :( | 09:43 |
| Squirm | Symmetria: a friend of mine is in Kenya too, https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/q77/s720x720/1901698_10152226393980350_1099786999_n.jpg | 09:43 |
| Squirm | charl: be careful what you wish for, Symmetria's images are normally massive | 09:44 |
| charl | Squirm: one white leg and one brown leg? | 09:48 |
| charl | hi psyatw | 09:48 |
| psyatw | hi charl | 09:48 |
| charl | how's it going | 09:48 |
| * Squirm shrugs | 09:48 | |
| Squirm | shadow? | 09:48 |
| Squirm | or fell asleep on her side | 09:48 |
| charl | her... yeah i thought it looks like female legs :) | 09:49 |
| charl | i'm off, work needs to be done | 09:56 |
| charl | have a good day all | 09:56 |
| magespawn | later all | 12:35 |
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| magespawn | good afternoon | 13:22 |
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| magespawn | latet all | 15:18 |
| magespawn | later too | 15:18 |
| Kilos | evening everyone | 16:18 |
| not_found | o/ | 16:20 |
| magespawn | Good evening | 16:31 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 16:32 |
| Kilos | lo not_found | 16:32 |
| Kilos | in between everyone else | 16:32 |
| not_found | how is everyone ? | 16:32 |
| magespawn | Hey , how's it going? | 16:32 |
| magespawn | Hi not-found | 16:32 |
| Kilos | dunno been offline all day | 16:32 |
| Kilos | you guys mustnt miss next meeting | 16:33 |
| magespawn | I noticed | 16:33 |
| Kilos | hopefully we gonna get some changes made here | 16:33 |
| magespawn | How so Kilos? | 16:33 |
| Kilos | been thinking about the pros suggestion to allow only registered nicks here | 16:34 |
| Kilos | i like if its switchable | 16:34 |
| Kilos | some noobs need help getting nicks registered | 16:34 |
| magespawn | Registered makes it easier to control | 16:34 |
| Kilos | yeah | 16:35 |
| Private_User | 'sup people, Kilos, magespawn, not_found | 16:35 |
| magespawn | There channels and help for that | 16:35 |
| Kilos | hi Private_User | 16:35 |
| magespawn | Hi Private_User | 16:35 |
| Kilos | he said it is a switchable option magespawn so thats good | 16:35 |
| Kilos | just switch on in troubled times | 16:36 |
| Private_User | but how many people here don't have registered nicks? | 16:36 |
| Kilos | ? | 16:36 |
| Private_User | I thought all people on this channel had registered nicks | 16:37 |
| Kilos | it will definitely stop bad dudes/trolls | 16:37 |
| magespawn | That might create problems on its own Kilos | 16:37 |
| magespawn | Private_User the ones that cause problems | 16:37 |
| Private_User | lol ok | 16:37 |
| Kilos | explain magespawn | 16:37 |
| magespawn | Well if some people come here without a registered nick, then try to get back when it is switched on, could cause misunderstanding and frustration | 16:39 |
| magespawn | Expecially for the casual visitors | 16:39 |
| Kilos | we can explain to noobs they gotta register their nicks to use this channel | 16:40 |
| magespawn | S/expecially/especially | 16:40 |
| Kilos | but thats why i say we need it switchable | 16:40 |
| Kilos | like the fly spent a day and night banning nicks from one idiot | 16:41 |
| not_found | -1 on the suggestion | 16:41 |
| Kilos | busy peeps havent got that kinda time to waste | 16:41 |
| Private_User | but how would you know there is a noob trying to get onto the channel if their nick is not registered. some users will just say flip it I will use #ubuntu | 16:41 |
| magespawn | Imagine a shop that is only open a certain times but you do not know when, how long would you carry on going there? | 16:41 |
| not_found | one idiot should just have been banned on the IP level for a day or two | 16:42 |
| Kilos | sigh | 16:42 |
| Kilos | i said we can switch it on only when there are probs and the rest of the time it can be as is now | 16:42 |
| Kilos | you didnt see it not_found | 16:43 |
| not_found | and the same person that switches it on can just ban the person | 16:43 |
| Private_User | but what if that shop gives excellent service and lotsa freebies and the goods are all half the price of the normal price | 16:43 |
| not_found | you can ban on ip level and then no matter what nicks he chooses he is banned | 16:43 |
| Private_User | lol | 16:43 |
| Kilos | he kept coming back from different proxies and different nicks | 16:43 |
| not_found | and he has been back how many times? | 16:43 |
| Kilos | maybe 20 or 30 in that one day and night | 16:44 |
| not_found | and since then? | 16:44 |
| Kilos | and gave threats | 16:44 |
| Private_User | so who is that guy, a local? | 16:44 |
| Kilos | ya | 16:45 |
| not_found | just be careful not to make things worse by trying to make it better ;) | 16:45 |
| Kilos | we can discuss it at next meet | 16:45 |
| Kilos | get the channel owner here too | 16:45 |
| Kilos | he was here on the trouble day | 16:46 |
| Private_User | wow who is the channel owner? | 16:46 |
| Kilos | highvoltage | 16:46 |
| Private_User | must have been a real shock when he entered that day | 16:49 |
| Private_User | LOL | 16:49 |
| Kilos | no he is a long time friend | 16:49 |
| Kilos | just was busy overseas for some years | 16:49 |
| not_found | sarcasm missed | 16:51 |
| not_found | https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6JvTAGGEPgc/Uu9kUk3GAGI/AAAAAAAAAns/-q6JxOpc7pA/s460-no/ay56GpM_460s.jpg | 16:51 |
| Private_User | lol | 16:51 |
| Private_User | imagine if we had to install software that way again, I would hate to be the person that gets that task | 16:53 |
| not_found | and then you get one bad sector >.< | 16:55 |
| Private_User | hehehe | 17:00 |
| Private_User | btw people the ubuntu-za site when will it be up and running again? | 17:04 |
| Kilos | well have to find out from tumbleweed | 17:05 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, sorry I broke it. and I'm waiting for superfly to fix it :) | 17:05 |
| magespawn | I remember Win 95 upgrade was 15 disks and you had to have dos 6.22 and win 3.11 installed first and they were 4 or so disk each | 17:06 |
| magespawn | Lol | 17:06 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:06 |
| Private_User | yep and making a boot disk took 4 stiffy disks with win 2000 | 17:09 |
| not_found | oh wow | 17:10 |
| not_found | last time I messed with stiffies was to install Warcraft 2 and that was compressed with arj unto 23 disks... what a pita | 17:11 |
| magespawn | Back again | 17:27 |
| Kilos | whew bad modem day | 17:27 |
| magespawn | Brb | 17:30 |
| not_found | up and down day connection wise I see | 17:32 |
| Kilos | yeah | 17:33 |
| nuvolari | wow... [download] 100% of 1.33GiB in 00:31 | 19:37 |
| nuvolari | seconds | 19:37 |
| nuvolari | not minutes | 19:38 |
| Kilos | lo nuvolari | 19:38 |
| Kilos | was jy beroof | 19:38 |
| Kilos | wow that is fast | 19:38 |
| nuvolari | hi oom Kilos | 19:41 |
| nuvolari | ja :-/ al die koper pype | 19:41 |
| Kilos | ai@ | 19:41 |
| nuvolari | en hulle was vandag WEER hier om die bietjie wat oor is ook te vat | 19:41 |
| Kilos | ai! ook | 19:41 |
| Kilos | vervang met plastiek pype | 19:42 |
| nuvolari | eish, I hope my vps stays up. just doing an upgrade | 19:43 |
| nuvolari | ja oom, dit gaan nou 'n aluminium-composite wees | 19:44 |
| nuvolari | ek hoop hulle los dit nou uit | 19:44 |
| nuvolari | ek wil ook kyk of ek nie 'n kamera iewers kan opsit nie | 19:44 |
| nuvolari | 'n spy cam | 19:44 |
| nuvolari | ek wil net 'n idee kry hoeveel hier aangaan terwyl ek weg is | 19:44 |
| Kilos | praat met mageorr dit | 19:45 |
| Kilos | dis wat hy doen | 19:45 |
| Kilos | magespawn | 19:45 |
| nuvolari | ah, sal definitief, dankie oom Kilos | 20:26 |
| nuvolari | hello not_found :) | 20:26 |
| not_found | hello nuvolari , how are you? | 20:27 |
| not_found | quiet huh | 20:29 |
| nuvolarii | whoopsie | 20:38 |
| nuvolarii | :-/ | 20:38 |
| nuvolarii | restarted to get moar freebies | 20:38 |
| not_found | wb then nuvolarii | 20:40 |
| nuvolarii | not entirely | 20:41 |
| nuvolarii | can't see my system :O | 20:41 |
| nuvolarii | :'( | 20:41 |
| nuvolari_ | ah! | 20:42 |
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| nuvolarii | tatah | 20:42 |
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| not_found | one of those days nuvolari ? | 20:44 |
| nuvolari | not_found: uh-huh | 20:45 |
| not_found | :) | 20:45 |
| Kilos | night guys. sleep tight. have a good shift not_found | 20:51 |
| not_found | thanks uncle Kilos ... sleep tight | 20:51 |
| nuvolari | ugh, need 1 more reboot | 21:02 |
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