[00:00] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: arghh, well, did you stop the install ?
[00:00] <Flat4ForLife> Yes. I'm editing the blacklist files real quick cause they have nouveau in them
[00:01] <digs> Jabo - I thought I was running 12.. that was the other instance. This one is 13.04 and the motd is telling me that 13.10 is available.
[00:01] <digs> I just updated all packages
[00:01] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: yep, that is what it will take, or reinstall nouveau and let the system do it, whatever you feel comfortable with
[00:02] <Flat4ForLife> How can I reinstall nouveau?
[00:02] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[00:03] <Flat4ForLife> Need Internet haha
[00:03] <EnderLance> Hi guys, I need help setting up my Ubuntu Server...
[00:04] <EnderLance> I installed properly (I hope) but the wlan0 interface that I used during the installation disappeared and I don't have any networking interface!
[00:04] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: sorry, didn't think straight aka goofed up .. so manual edits i suppose
[00:05] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: always roadblocks ahead in situations like this, nice to see you're still smiling heh
[00:05] <EnderLance> Can anybody help me?
[00:06] <digs> Is there any good reason to update to 13.10 or is keeeping the packages up to date enough?
[00:06] <ikonia> digs: what are you currently running ?
[00:06] <digs> 13.04
[00:06] <ikonia> digs: any problems with it ?
[00:06] <digs> Nope.
[00:06] <ikonia> digs: ok, hang tight then, keep it up to date and enjoy
[00:07] <digs> Cool, thank you for the response.
[00:07] <EnderLance> Guys, I really need help...
[00:07] <Jabo> EnderLance, don't ask if you can get help. Just ask your question.
[00:08] <Jabo> IRC etiquette man.
[00:08] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: actually, if you purged nvidia you shouldn't have to do much, just check /etc/modprobe
[00:08] <EnderLance> Alright then, I installed Ubuntu Server 13.10 and the wlan0 network interface was working during the installation but not after...
[00:08] <ikonia> EnderLance: why are you using ubuntu server with wireless cards ?
[00:08] <ikonia> surly the desktop would be a better option
[00:08] <EnderLance> It's a laptop with a broken screen I have no other use for it...
[00:08]  * Jabo agrees with ikonia
[00:09] <ikonia> the desktop install will still be a better target as it will have the network-manager setup which can manage wireless connections
[00:09] <Jabo> you don't need the server edition
[00:09] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: correction: check /etc/modprobe.d and take out anything that has filenames with nvidia in it
[00:09] <Flat4ForLife> No luck
[00:09] <Flat4ForLife> OK will do
[00:09] <digs> How do I change the command line to be able to pull up history of a partial match? For example, say you do a vi command then 5 cd commands and then you want to go back to the vi command. I don't want to up arrow 6 times, I just want to type vi then up arrow and have it get the command.
[00:09] <ikonia> set -o vi
[00:10] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: it makes ense that you can't find anything anymore, so you can try a reboor now
[00:10] <digs> no.. for any command.
[00:10] <glitsj16> *reboot
[00:10] <ikonia> yes, set -o vi
[00:10] <EnderLance> I had the desktop edition.... Isn't the server edition supposed to be faster? I mean, less programs and stuff?
[00:10] <digs> Say it was a service command I did like 20 commands ago... I want to type service up arrow and have it be there. Still the same command ikonia ?
[00:10] <ikonia> yes, set -o vi
[00:10] <digs> hah. okay. thanks.
[00:12] <EnderLance> ...
[00:12] <digs> ikonia, no... I am talking about altering .bashrc
[00:12] <EnderLance> So you guys just don't know how to help me?
[00:12] <Flat4ForLife> OK I got it running, now half my screen is jacked up and the bottom half is fine
[00:12] <Flat4ForLife> I logged in though
[00:13] <ikonia> set -o vi in bashrc
[00:13] <digs> ohhhhhhh
[00:13] <Jabo> yes we do EnderLance, you don't need the server edition. install the desktop edition.
[00:13] <ikonia> or on the command line
[00:13] <ikonia> it really doesn't matter
[00:13] <daftykins> EnderLance: honestly a server OS does not belong on wifi
[00:13] <ikonia> EnderLance: find out what kenrel module your wireless card needs, check if it's present, check if it's being loaded,
[00:13] <ikonia> EnderLance: there you go, that is the first stage of debugging
[00:14] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: lol, nice you made it back, at least you can  .. sudo apt-get install pastebinit ..
[00:15] <EnderLance> fine, I'll just install desktop and deal with a Octal-Core 2.4 GHz CPU 8GB RAM computer running really slow...
[00:15] <EnderLance> thanks anyways.
[00:15] <ikonia> EnderLance: why would it run slow ?
[00:15] <Flat4ForLife> Haha OK once I get it connected
[00:15] <willwh> EnderLance: that's just silly
[00:15] <EnderLance> Not exactly sure why...
[00:15] <ikonia> EnderLance: you can't be serious thinking a machine with 8gb of ram and 4 cores will run "slow"
[00:15] <EnderLance> But it did
[00:15] <ikonia> EnderLance: visually slow, or resource slow
[00:16] <EnderLance> I don't use the visuals, it was the actual processes
[00:16] <ikonia> EnderLance: can you give me an example of a process running slow please.
[00:16] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: when you have that we'll check if you got the kernel headers installed: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) | pastebinit
[00:16] <EnderLance> Bukkit 1.7.2 (Minecraft server)
[00:16] <EnderLance> 6GB ram for the server
[00:17] <ikonia> EnderLance: that's nothing to do with desktop/server
[00:17] <EnderLance> hmm
[00:17] <ikonia> EnderLance: if a java app takes 6gb of ram, it will take 6gb of ram on a server/desktop install the same
[00:17] <EnderLance> ...
[00:17] <EnderLance> didn't think of that...
[00:17] <ikonia> EnderLance: thats a big java thread, your heap size was probably set wrong
[00:17] <ikonia> (at a blind guess)
[00:18] <EnderLance> k... I'll stick to desktop then and look into jre a bit more.
[00:19] <EnderLance> thanks ikonia!
[00:19] <Flat4ForLife> Paste .Ubuntu.com/6876122
[00:19] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: lspci -nnk | grep Network -A 2 .. that should tell you the wireless chip and driver, we can give it a shot to get it going
[00:20] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: okay thanks
[00:20] <Flat4ForLife> I have to step away for a few I'll be back though (gotta work)
[00:20] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: no problem, i'll be around
[00:21] <Flat4ForLife> Sounds good thanka
[00:21] <Flat4ForLife> Thanks
[00:27] <fieranna> without using wIne are there any credible alternatives to blender?
[00:28] <dougl> glitsj16, " i don't know for sure the saucy version will work correct, but you can always ppa-purge it when it doesn't .. so not that much risk involved, but ask around, i never used it" - I did and did a netsplit before he could help me resolve the issue
[00:28] <dougl> glitsj16, can you?
[00:29] <glitsj16> dougl: a split? :p .. we'll try
[00:29] <dougl> glitsj16, not what they are called - thanks tho :)
[00:29] <glitsj16> dougl: give me 1 minute if you would and we can give it a shot
[00:30] <dougl> :)
[00:30] <linubuntunix> 乱码
[00:31] <somsip> !zh | linubuntunix
[00:32] <glitsj16> dougl: do you want to change the ppa to saucy or purge it all together?
[00:32] <linubuntunix> r u bot?
[00:32] <dougl> change it glitsj16
[00:33] <glitsj16> dougl: ok, can you open "gksudo gedit" or editor of your choice and navigate to the ppa file under /etc/apt/sources.list.d please
[00:35] <dougl> glitsj16, nano says it is a directory
[00:35] <dougl> /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[00:35] <glitsj16> dougl: it is yes, you should open the file in question, will have richter in its name
[00:36] <glitsj16> ls -lh /etc/apt/sources.list.d | grep richter
[00:36] <glitsj16> should be easy to spot the correct one
[00:36] <ffff> does anybody here have experience w/ dokku?
[00:37] <harris> no floodbots!!!!!!!!
[00:37] <dougl> glitsj16, there is only two files same name one with .save extension
[00:38] <glitsj16> dougl: you're looking for the one without the .save
[00:38] <glitsj16> dougl: once you get that into nano, it's a quick edit: exchange 'trusty' for 'saucy' and save the file
[00:40] <dougl> k done glitsj16 saved too
[00:41] <harris> what is the ubuntu newsletter page
[00:41] <glitsj16> dougl: so now's the time to .. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install grub-customizer
[00:42] <glitsj16> harris: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter
[00:42] <harris> no channel irc
[00:43] <glitsj16> harris: i don't know, but you can search the bot with the !alis command
[00:43] <harris> !alis
[00:43] <Pici> !channels
[00:44] <Flat4ForLife> OK I'm back for a few
[00:44] <Flat4ForLife> Any new ideas?
[00:44] <glitsj16> harris: checked the page, should be #ubuntu-news
[00:44] <dougl> glitsj16, like a dream = thanks for the help :)
[00:44] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: welcome back
[00:44] <Flat4ForLife> Thanks
[00:44] <glitsj16> dougl: very welcome :)
[00:45] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: installing the nvidia-319 correct?
[00:45] <Flat4ForLife> If thats the next step, the yes. However I lost my chat log, can you post the command again?
[00:46] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: sure: sudo apt-get install nvidia-319
[00:46] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: that'll install the nvidia-settings as well, no need to add that
[00:47] <Flat4ForLife> OK might take a few to download
[00:47] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: if you get any errors, pastebin those .. yes let it run, it will need to build the driver
[00:51] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: when closing a few browser tabs i saw your first pic again .. are you in a root shell now?
[00:52] <Flat4ForLife> Nope, back to the GUI I was able to get back to nouveau
[00:52] <Flat4ForLife> I was earlier though
[00:53] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: okay, just needed to change the command if you were
[00:53] <Flat4ForLife> I'm going to let this sit and downloaf, it's going to be a little bit. I'll come back once it's done
[00:54] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: ofcourse, jump in when ready .. we need to confirm the build and basically you can reboot after that
[00:54] <Flat4ForLife> OK sounds good. Thanks again
[00:59] <Demon_Jester> Hey guys, quick question, I am using arecord to record from my mic, and im piping it through oggenc to compress it to .ogg format. Question is, is there a way to increase the recording volume? it seems little quiet while recording
[01:01] <mrp123> Hey guys, wondering how you guys manage to annotate pdfs?
[01:01] <mrp123> Okular provides some annotation but doesn't save it to the pdf for other viewers to view.
[01:02] <VlanX> is there anything for ubuntu to manage many SSH connection terminals?
[01:04] <mrp123> VlanX why not use many terminals?
[01:04] <pnunn> VlanX: take a look at PAC
[01:05] <VlanX> mrp123: because it's inconvenient if you have too many
[01:05] <lysobit> VlanX: screen?
[01:05] <mrp123> You must have quitea few
[01:05] <glitsj16> Demon_Jester: if you have pavucontrol you could slide up the volume of your playback and/or recording settings to a suitable level
[01:05] <VlanX> mrp123: about 20ish
[01:05] <Demon_Jester> pavucontrol? I will check it out.
[01:06] <mrp123> VlanX, wow
[01:06] <testtorrr> is here
[01:06] <FuuqUmist> does anyone know how to setup the audio input
[01:06] <lysobit> VlanX: http://kb.iu.edu/data/acuy.html
[01:06] <lysobit> VlanX: sounds like screen might be what you're looking for
[01:06] <Demon_Jester> screen is a awesome program to use.
[01:08] <VlanX> lysobit: I was actually looking for something like PAC; I didnt know that program
[01:08] <VlanX> I'm installing it now.. thanks pnunn
[01:10] <thimoteo> hi
[01:10] <mrp123> Hello
[01:10] <glitsj16> FuuqUmist: pavucontrol does that too, it has playback, recording, output, input and configuration tabs .. the latter lets you pick a profile for both high def and built-in audio
[01:10] <lazyPower> I've encountered an interesting issue. Using my Macbook Air 5,2 - when i use the touchpad it randomly brings up the alt-tab switcher. Has anyone seen this behavior?
[01:11] <thimoteo> olá i am Brazilian
[01:11] <FuuqUmist> glitsj16 i plugged in a mic to the laptop but the mic that is working is the one that is integrated into the laptop
[01:12] <fieranna> lazyPower: seems like a gesture shortcut
[01:12] <glitsj16> FuuqUmist: in the input devices tab of pavucontrol you should be able to choose thru a dropdown
[01:12] <thimoteo> hello
[01:13] <lazyPower> fieranna: I don't see settings for that in the ubuntu mouse/touchpad settings. Can you direct me where i would find those?
[01:13] <FuuqUmist> ok, i'll check it out
[01:13] <thimoteo> is my first time here
[01:14] <fieranna> lazyPower: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch
[01:14] <glitsj16> FuuqUmist: it's also possible in the system settings > sound entree, looks a bit different but offers similar stuff
[01:14] <wdkevinfour> Everytime I restart the networking service, it will work fine for about 5 seconds, then it just stops. I can ping, and it will stop after about 5 seconds, then nothing. I can even open full websites in that first 5 seconds. Then it stops. As soon as I restart the networking service, it does the same thing all over again. What gives?
[01:14] <thimoteo> someone here has more of Brazil?
[01:15] <dupingping> hello!
[01:15] <glitsj16> !br | thimoteo
[01:15] <dupingping> how to configure the window waiting time?
[01:16] <tangorri> hi
[01:16] <lazyPower> fieranna: thanks, not sure how i missed that one.
[01:16] <thimoteo> anyone feel like talking?
[01:16] <tangorri> I need php 5.4 on 12lts
[01:17] <glitsj16> dupingping: window waiting time, can you tell us what you mean exactly?
[01:17] <dupingping> if window is not response for long time,
[01:17] <tangorri> don't have add-apt-repository ....
[01:18] <dupingping> window is darked.
[01:18] <xangua>  tangorri using a server install¿
[01:18] <tangorri> yes
[01:18] <glitsj16> dupingping: okay, i get what you mean, you can run the command "xkill" from terminal and you'll get a marker to hit the window with
[01:18] <dupingping> but my window is busy for a long time, is not died!
[01:19] <dupingping> glitsj16: no kill!
[01:19] <VlanX> pnunn: wow PAC really works great
[01:19] <glitsj16> dupingping: ow i see, i don't think you can configure that actually
[01:19] <xangua> tangorri: you need to install software-properties-common to be  able to add a  PPA repository
[01:19] <tangorri> ok
[01:20] <tangorri> or maybe I'll translate all my [] notation in php ....
[01:20] <tangorri> if 5.4 is not in repos that means it's not production safe right ?
[01:22] <somsip> tangorri: it is available on more recent versions, or you can use ondrej's PPA but take care as this will also upgrade apache2 to 2.4 which requires some changes. Or use ondrej/old-stable. And PPAs are not supported here, so you're on your own if you do this
[01:22] <dupingping> ok
[01:22] <somsip> tangorri: if all you need is [] then use search/replace to array() and stay on official repos
[01:23] <tangorri> iep
[01:23] <tangorri> yes
[01:23] <tangorri> goind to bed thanks guys, c u
[01:29] <new_cat> there is a file in a directory i can't open (says file not found). how do i check for file system errors of a specific directory without rebooting?
[01:29] <Valduare> hmm
[01:29] <Valduare> keep crashing lol
[01:30] <Valduare> I made a flash drive with unetbootin yesterday  on my mac
[01:30] <Valduare> then I booted with it and installed ubuntu -
[01:30] <Valduare> now today i made another one with unetbooin on my mac but the mac won't see the drive...
[01:30] <Valduare> im stuck
[01:42] <tjd797> hi can someone help me with on here with my ubuntu software? i am new to it and have a few questions.
[01:43] <somsip> !ask | tjd797
[01:44] <tjd797> my disc space is 100% full and i can't clear up disc space i've looked on google and tried almost everything. i can't update my software either and it needs to be updated. but i can't because of the disc space
[01:45] <somsip> tjd797: what have you tried to clear disk space?
[01:46] <tjd797> i've tried sudo apt-get clean on the terminal, and mostly everything searched i've search on google under "how to free up disc space on ubuntu"
[01:46] <glitsj16> somsip: if Flat4Life shows up, would you mind telling him i'll be back in 10 minutes please? or help him out, he is installing nvidia-319 and should confirm the module build (sudo dkms status) and then go for reboot .. but i'll be back before most likely
[01:46] <somsip> glitsj16: I'll try to look out for him for you
[01:47] <tjd797> i'm not sure what to do anymore.
[01:47] <glitsj16> somsip: great thanks :) bbl
[01:47] <somsip> tjd797: can you paste the output of df -h using paste.ubuntu.com (or dear...I'm at 96% too)
[01:47] <dupingping> hi
[01:47] <dupingping> how to contigure window reponse timeout?
[01:47] <tjd797> how do i do that?
[01:48] <dupingping> my window busy for a long time.
[01:48] <somsip> Open a browser window to paste.ubuntu.com, open a terminal and fo the command 'df -h', copy from terminal and paste to browser, copy and paste url here
[01:49] <tjd797> tyler@tyler:~$ df -h Filesystem               Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root  455G   11G  421G   3% / none                     4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup udev                     1.9G  4.0K  1.9G   1% /dev tmpfs                    391M  860K  390M   1% /run none                     5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock none                     2.0G  484K  2.0G   1% /run/shm none                     100M   
[01:49] <somsip> tjd797: paste to paste.ubuntu.com not here. I can't read that
[01:49] <tjd797> woops ok doing it now
[01:52] <dupingping> how to contigure window reponse timeout?
[01:52] <somsip> dupingping: explain what you want to do
[01:53] <Tjd797_> somsip did you click the link i sent?
[01:53] <dupingping> i want timeout for a long time.
[01:53] <somsip> Tjd797_: I see no link. Can you repaste?
[01:53] <Tjd797_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6876448/
[01:53] <somsip> dupingping: timeout for what, in what circumstances?
[01:53] <Tjd797_> i've tried everything i really hope you could help me.
[01:54] <dupingping> my window busy for a long time, but it is die.
[01:54] <dupingping> my window busy for a long time, but it is died.
[01:54] <Tjd797_> i sent the link
[01:54] <Tjd797_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6876448/
[01:54] <dupingping> and window is darked.
[01:54] <somsip> Tjd797_: so /boot is full which means you are full of old kernels (probably). There is a one-liner to clear this I'm trying to find for you
[01:54] <somsip> dupingping: use xkill if you need to kill it
[01:54] <Tjd797_> okay thank you hope you can find it
[01:55] <dupingping> no kill, i must wait it finish.
[01:55] <somsip> dupingping: wait then.
[01:55] <dupingping> it just busy, but it was darked.
[01:57] <somsip> Tjd797_: http://is.gd/jwDB6S for the one liner, or pick and choose manually using instructions here (lots of methods) http://is.gd/dMKqOA
[01:57] <somsip> Tjd797_: just be careful and make sure you are happy with the approach you choose. Maybe safely deleted the oldest kernel to make sure you understand the process.
[01:57] <glitsj16> dupingping: usually when a window darkens it has become unresponsive .. if it was a terminal app/script that's different
[01:57] <dupingping> ah
[01:58] <dupingping> it is not terminal app/script, it is a window.
[01:59] <dupingping> only way is rewrite my code?
[01:59] <glitsj16> dupingping: if you don't see movement in the window, i guess that's the bottomline yes
[01:59] <somsip> dupingping: what is the application that is running?
[01:59] <somsip> glitsj16: he didn't come back
[01:59] <glitsj16> dupingping: you could add a small animation, so you'd be able to check visually
[02:00] <dupingping> the application was wrote me
[02:00] <glitsj16> somsip: he's at work so that makes sense .. thank you for keeping an eye open
[02:00] <somsip> dupingping: then you need to debug it. That's not something we can help you with here
[02:00] <somsip> glitsj16: np
[02:01] <dupingping> glitsj16: somsip: thank you!
[02:01] <glitsj16> dupingping: back to the code :) no trouble
[02:01] <dupingping> yes glitsj16
[02:03] <dupingping> what is oldest device supported ubuntu12.04.3?
[02:03] <dupingping> what is oldest device supported by ubuntu12.04.3?
[02:04] <CookiesRgooD> Guys. IDK what to do anymore. Done a ton of research already. Running Acer C710-2615 chromebook. Removed chromeos and put xubuntu 12.04.3. My problem is that my trackpad does not work. It does in Saucy salamander 13. Thoughts on how to get the trackpad working on 12?
[02:06] <somsip> dupingping: what sort of device?
[02:06] <therufus> exit
[02:07] <somsip> CookiesRgooD: maybe there is kernel/driver support in 13.10 that is not in 12.04. You'd need to find where/when this was introduced and see if there are patches that can be made to 12.04. Why can't you use 13.10?
[02:11] <dupingping> somsip: about CPU
[02:12] <somsip> dupingping: that is supported by the kernel. So you would need to look elsehwere for that information, based on the current kernel in use in 12.04
[02:12] <somsip> !info linux-image-generic precise | dupingping
[02:13] <dupingping> somsip: oldest CPU supported by 3.2.0.58.69
[02:13] <dupingping> !info linux-image-generic precise | somsip
[02:14] <dupingping>  somsip: oldest CPU supported by 3.2.0.58.69
[02:15] <somsip> dupingping: I'm not searching for that for you
[02:15] <dupingping> ah yes, thanks, somsip
[02:19] <Flat4ForLife> glitsj16: you around?
[02:20] <Valduare> gah I give up trying to get ubuntu on my macbook pro 7.1
[02:20] <Flat4ForLife> It took me forever valduare, but I got it. What problem are you running into? I'm on an older Macbook pro
[02:21] <prpl> If I install ubuntu to a prepared partition on a hdd that has linux mint and winxp, will the new grub menu include all three oses ? thanks
[02:21] <Valduare> I'm trying to boot the mac version iso
[02:21] <Valduare> but won't show up
[02:21] <Valduare> Flat4ForLife: I have rEFInd installed
[02:22] <Flat4ForLife> What did you use to create the bootable mrdia
[02:22] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: right here :)
[02:22] <Flat4ForLife> Woo! I was worried you'd gone to bed haha
[02:22] <rww> prpl: yep, assuming everything goes well
[02:23] <Flat4ForLife> OK so it installed, no errors it seems
[02:23] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: haha, it's tempting, but not yet, i didn't want to let you dangle, especially if you're close (if things run normal)
[02:23] <Flat4ForLife> Sorry it took so long, had to actually work for a bit haha
[02:23] <prpl> I'll see what happens
[02:23] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: great, quick check: sudo dkms status
[02:23] <Valduare> Flat4ForLife: I used unetbootin with a regular ubuntu 64 iso yesterday and it boots
[02:23] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: has to be done, no problem
[02:23] <Valduare> but the mac version - the usb does not show up
[02:24] <Flat4ForLife> Valduare: Don't use the Mac version then, it's not required
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[02:25] <Valduare> Flat4ForLife: I got a regular install up and going but if I try the proprietary nvidia drivers its black screen
[02:25] <Valduare> because the nvidia drivers do not support efi boot
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[02:25] <Flat4ForLife> That's where I'm at man, working on it as we speak
[02:25] <Valduare> so the mac version is suppose to legacy bios
[02:26] <Flat4ForLife> Glitsj16: could not locate dkms. Conf file, doesn't exist
[02:26] <glitsj16> Valduare: nvidia drivers should work regardless, black screen could mean several things ofcourse, but should be fixable
[02:27] <Valduare> glitsj16: no its because of efi - its stated that they do not support efi boot
[02:27] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: odd, should be a dependency of nvidia, let's do .. sudo apt-get install dkms
[02:27] <Flat4ForLife> Valduare: that's not with the Mac version, it's the drivers. They are a pain in the ass
[02:28] <Flat4ForLife> You boot fine with the nouveau drivers right?
[02:28] <Valduare> ya
[02:28] <Valduare> I have a current efi booting ubuntu install atm
[02:28] <Flat4ForLife> Said it was installed already glits, but I reinstalled it
[02:28] <Valduare> but nouveau crashes after min or so
[02:28] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: ok, let me do a quick check on the dkms conf here
[02:29] <Flat4ForLife> So then it works valduare, the drivers are just picky. I still haven't gotten mine to work either
[02:29] <Jordan_U> Valduare: The +mac iso is identical to the non +mac iso, except that the +mac iso has the EFI bootloader *removed* from its image. You should *not* use the +mac iso as a base for making a USB drive that will boot on a Mac, you should use the standard 64 bit iso instead.
[02:29] <Valduare> I read that it sets up the bios mode - whatever they called it :P
[02:29] <Valduare> my brain is getting fried lol
[02:30] <Flat4ForLife> It uses a grub bootloader, you should see it when you boot now
[02:30] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: ls -lh /etc/dkms .. should be 2 dirs and 1 file called framework.conf
[02:30] <Flat4ForLife> Correct glits
[02:30] <Jordan_U> Valduare: In case you want to know the gory details: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37999/what-is-different-about-the-mac-iso-image .
[02:30] <cammmmm> hi all
[02:31] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: cat /etc/dkms/framework.conf | pastebinit
[02:31] <Valduare> Jordan_U: aye thats where it talked about the mac version setting grub up for bios mode instead of efi
[02:31] <Valduare> why is there a mac version if I shouldn't use it
[02:31] <cammmmm> where is the best place for a linux noob to go for info and how-tos?
[02:31] <libcracka> How can I view license information on software, i'm thinking about installing?
[02:31] <Flat4ForLife> Paste.ubuntu.com/6876589
[02:31] <cfhowlett> cammmmm, !manual|
[02:32] <rww> !manual
[02:32] <cammmmm> ahh, thanks!!
[02:32] <Valduare> libcracka: google the software
[02:33] <libcracka> Valduare: ah, it'd be cool if "apt-cache show software" would give the license info
[02:33] <libcracka> thanks tho
[02:33] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: looks allright .. let's look for the executable .. which dkms
[02:33] <Valduare> libcracka: it could - write a patch :)
[02:33] <Flat4ForLife> It's /usr/sbin/dkms
[02:34] <libcracka> Valduare: Good idea been considering contributing somewhere. thank for the suggestions
[02:35] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: that's where it needs to be .. actually never seen that error before .. checking permissions on that: ls -lh /usr/sbin/dkms | pastebinit
[02:36] <Flat4ForLife> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 127k may 29 2013
[02:36] <Jordan_U> Valduare: You should use it for CDs, you shouldn't use if for USBs (and hopefully with newer Apple machines the regular image will work on CDs as well).
[02:37] <Valduare> I don't have any blank dvd's right now
[02:37] <Valduare> the image is too large for a cd I think
[02:38] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: again correct, i'm looking at some info right now, like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DKMS to see if we can produce what it seems to be missing, i'll be back shortly
[02:38] <Flat4ForLife> OK thanks
[02:38] <Jordan_U> libcracka: You can look at the copyright file on packages.ubuntu.com.
[02:39] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: cat /etc/modprobe.d/dkms.conf | pastebinit
[02:39] <libcracka> Jordan_U: Thank you
[02:40] <Jordan_U> libcracka: Anything in main or universe should follow DFSG though: http://www.debian.org/social_contract
[02:40] <Jordan_U> libcracka: You're welcome.
[02:41] <libcracka> Jordan_U: I see, so I can use that as somewhat of a gauge. thanks
[02:42] <CookiesRgooD> If anyone could help me out with this, I'd really appreciate it. I have an Acer C710-2615 chromebook. I removed the chromeos and put xubuntu 12.04.3 onto it. My problem is that my trackpad does not work. I can not get it to initialize. Though it did work on Saucy salamander. Anyone have any thoughts?
[02:42] <Flat4ForLife> Paste.ubunty.com/6876630
[02:42] <Flat4ForLife> Err, Ubuntu lol sorry phones dumb
[02:44] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: looking good .. sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia .. and tell us what you see (if anything)
[02:44] <wagonboi> Ubuntu 12.04 starts up and says "System Program error detected". I installed Oracle's JDK a few days ago. Where to start?
[02:45] <Actionparsnip> Wagonboi: in apport's log I'd say
[02:46] <Actionparsnip> Wagonboi: /var/log/apport
[02:46] <wagonboi> Actionparsnip, apport is empty, save for the Network manager which crashed on this bootup for some reason
[02:47] <wagonboi> Actually, that was probably the error
[02:47] <Actionparsnip> Wagonboi: then that's probably what is causing the popup
[02:47] <wagonboi> Actionparsnip, how can I reset it to default?
[02:48] <Actionparsnip> Wagonboi: if you edit /etc/default/apport the error won't show :-)
[02:48] <Flat4ForLife> Pastebin.com/4R2MZRuz
[02:48] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: there's a bug on that, probably some bad leftovers .. do you happen to run virtualbox? --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms/+bug/830915
[02:48] <Flat4ForLife> Seemed to work but that's the output
[02:49] <wagonboi> Actionparsnip,  the thing is that I had to turn networking on & off before the laptop rejoined my Wifi :(
[02:49] <lalala> anyone can help me to connect with my other pc with SSH ?
[02:49] <Flat4ForLife> I have virtual box on my mac partition, but Ubuntu is installed to the hard drive
[02:49] <Flat4ForLife> Dual boot, not vm
[02:49] <Actionparsnip> Wagonboi: sounds like a bug then
[02:50] <PeterCassetta> Hi, I need some help figuring out a booting problem after installing Ubuntu.
[02:50] <wagonboi> Actionparsnip, probably. Aren't updates supposed to fix things?! /s
[02:50] <Actionparsnip> Lalala: is the server pc running an ssh service (install openssh-server in Ubuntu to get an SSH service)
[02:51] <Actionparsnip> Wagonboi: sometimes yes....
[02:51] <PeterCassetta> I installed 13.04 on a laptop with Windows Vista
[02:51] <Flat4ForLife> Petercassetta: explain what's going on
[02:51] <PeterCassetta> Now Windows won't boot properly
[02:51] <Actionparsnip> Petecasaetta: what is the issue?
[02:52] <PeterCassetta> The whole Microsoft Corporation loading bar displays when I boot Windows from the GRUB menu
[02:52] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: okay, let's check for existence of the nvidia module: ls -lh /lib/modules/*/updates/dkms | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[02:52] <Actionparsnip> Petercassetta: if you run: sudo update-grub ,do you see Windows listed?
[02:52] <PeterCassetta> But after a short while the screen blinks white and I'm back in the BIOS
[02:53] <Actionparsnip> Petercassetta : raring is EOL and no longer supported in any way
[02:53] <PeterCassetta> Actionparsnip: Checking...
[02:53] <Flat4ForLife> Paste.ubuntu.com/6876660
[02:53] <cfhowlett> PeterCassetta, probably need to run the windows repair utility - looks like it got confused by the new OS/partitions ...
[02:53] <PeterCassetta> Actionparsnip: Oops, my bad, I meant to say 13.10 :P
[02:54] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: so i think the bug might be unrelated if you don't have virtualbox on the ubuntu, but it is odd .. if the former command worked, looks like it did if you can see nvidia kernel object, we can do a reboot to test, but hang on a sec
[02:54] <Flat4ForLife> Ok hanging on
[02:54] <Actionparsnip> Petercassetta : can you pastebin the output of the update-grub command please
[02:54] <lalala> Actionparsnip, then what I have to do after install?
[02:55] <Actionparsnip> Lalala : connect to the server from the other system. You can do it in Linux with: ssh name@servername
[02:55] <PeterCassetta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6876673
[02:55] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: you have it, but there's definately something going on, as things stand you should be ok for reboot but a next kernel or nvidia upgrade might throw you back where you were before
[02:56] <Flat4ForLife> So reboot?
[02:56] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: are you okay to give it another reboot? timewise i'm fine, i don't have eyes on your situation, just asking
[02:56] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: if you're up 4 it yes
[02:56] <Flat4ForLife> I'm game haha
[02:56] <Actionparsnip> Lalala: or: ssh name@ip.address.of.system
[02:56] <glitsj16> hehe, cool
[02:57] <Actionparsnip> Petercassetta: seems to be detected.  Is the NTFS partition healthy? When did you last run a chkdsk?
[02:57] <Flat4ForLife> And we're back in black
[02:58] <Flat4ForLife> No splash
[02:58] <Flat4ForLife> Just black with flashing line
[02:59] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit .. fishy hmm
[02:59] <PeterCassetta> Actionparsnip: Well, nothing abnormal had been going on with Windows prior... but I have not run a chkdsk in a while.
[02:59] <Actionparsnip> Flat4forlife: common to have no boot splash with the proprietary video drivers.  Do you eventually see the login page?
[02:59] <Flat4ForLife> Negative, just sits there. How long should I give it?
[03:00] <Actionparsnip> Petercassetta : can you get to safe mode in Windows by pressing F8 as soon as you select it in Grub?
[03:00] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: http://askubuntu.com/questions/227258/error-could-not-locate-dkms-conf-file, just for those bookmarks in case we need to deeper
[03:00] <darkelfjuggalo> Can someone direct me to a Mac Channel... someone wants to reformat their computer, but they complain about the linux I put on the laptop that went out[monitor went out] so they wanted to try MAC
[03:01] <cfhowlett> !mac
[03:01] <PeterCassetta> Actionparsnip: Ha, I don't use Windows enough to know that you can do that, but I'll check. :P
[03:01] <Actionparsnip> Darkelfjuggalo: #mac or @apple
[03:01] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: we did check on the blacklisting situation before right? just thinking out loud..
[03:01] <Actionparsnip> #apple sorry
[03:02] <darkelfjuggalo> cghowlett not what I want... it is a PC they want to get rid of Window but dont want linux
[03:02] <darkelfjuggalo> actionparsnip thank you
[03:02] <Actionparsnip> Petercassetta : it's been like that since win95 ....
[03:02] <PeterCassetta> Actionparsnip: Still, I'm far more at home in Ubuntu.
[03:03] <Actionparsnip> Petercassetta : same
[03:03] <Flat4ForLife> Yes, I just commented or deleted them, but Nvidia configuration should have set it up again
[03:03] <Flat4ForLife> I haven't checked since tgen
[03:03] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: after the paste of the Xorg.0.log, would you also: dmesg | pastebinit please
[03:03] <Flat4ForLife> Then
[03:03] <darkelfjuggalo> Actionparsnip : both are invitation only on freenode
[03:03] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: correct, just wasn't sure anymore we did that earlier
[03:03] <Flat4ForLife> I can't get in now, so I'll have to type it or pic it from recovery. Hang om
[03:03] <PeterCassetta> Actionparsnip: Booting safe mode now...
[03:04] <Actionparsnip> Darkelfjuggalo : you just need to be identified.  You will need to register your nick
[03:04] <darkelfjuggalo> my nick is registered on freenode
[03:04] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: those are pretty big files arghh, you were right about painand the rest heh
[03:04] <Flat4ForLife> Lol yup, it's dumb
[03:05] <Actionparsnip> Darkelfjuggalo : id ask in #freenode what the deal is. There may be other channels or even other networks with channels you can join
[03:05] <Flat4ForLife> OK ya the log in big, can't really paste that
[03:05] <Actionparsnip> Petercassetta : id run a full chkdsk to make sure things are ok
[03:05] <darkelfjuggalo> I dont know any others very well but I'll look it up
[03:06] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: might be easier just to do the 'sudo apt-get purge nvidia-319' dance again and reboot into nouveau so you can paste
[03:06] <Flat4ForLife> Can I change it without removing Nvidia?
[03:06] <daftykins> glitsj16: wow you're still going with that guy - what's happening so far? :)
[03:06] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: can't really see how we can get to the info otherwise
[03:06] <glitsj16> daftykins: we're hitting a few roadblocks :)
[03:07] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: you can try blacklisting the nvidia-319 and undoing the nouveau
[03:07] <Flat4ForLife> Can I display the output by pages?
[03:07] <wjtaylor> what is the proper term for when a usb disconnects and there is no longer a /dev device for it?
[03:07] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: anything you can show is a plus
[03:07] <linuxuz3r> whats a good file system sharing for windows linux and mac
[03:08] <ahoneybun> linuxuz3r, I believe that ext3 is a good balanced one but in windows you need 3rd party apps to read it
[03:08] <glitsj16> daftykins: his dkms war garbled, dpkg-reconfigure installed the nvidia-319 driver but reboot to black
[03:08] <ahoneybun> not sure about mac I would think it could read it fine
[03:09] <linuxuz3r> ahoneybun, ok
[03:09] <glitsj16> that's about how it stands, not much progress for Flat4ForLife arghh
[03:09] <daftykins> glitsj16: erk! does the 319 support that old chip?
[03:10] <glitsj16> daftykins: it should yes, to confirm we need to look at dmesg and Xorg.0.log but he's not able to paste easily right now and those are pretty big files to type over ..
[03:10] <daftykins> XD
[03:11] <daftykins> i guess you could get him to grep Xorg's log for (WW)
[03:11] <wjtaylor> linuxuz3r: It's a windows world and it's the most picky of the operating systems. Just use NTFS, got to lower the bar to the weakest link so to speak.
[03:12] <crocket> With Korean(Hangul) input method in Text Entry, the first vowel entered becomes detached from its associated consonant.
[03:12] <crocket> Why?
[03:12] <wjtaylor> has anyone had an issue with gparted dropping connectivity of usb drives?
[03:12] <glitsj16> daftykins: great idea! .. Flat4ForLife: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE") .. should be shorter
[03:12] <PeterCassetta> Anyway, in case anyone else has been listening to my problem, Windows is failing to boot and automatically rebooting.
[03:12] <PeterCassetta> Should I try ntfs-fix?
[03:12] <PeterCassetta> (Is that what it's called?)
[03:12] <Flat4ForLife> OK blacklist worked back in to login. But once logged in, goes to black
[03:12] <Beldar> PeterCassetta, Did you resize windows with the ubuntu install?
[03:12] <daftykins> PeterCassetta: which windows and how far does it get?
[03:13] <PeterCassetta> Beldar, yes.
[03:13] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: did you ever use the nomodeset kernel param? nouveau needs that often ..
[03:13] <PeterCassetta> daftykins: Vista
[03:13] <glitsj16> !nomodeset | Flat4ForLife
[03:13] <Flat4ForLife> Yes I did, I'll reboot and double check
[03:14] <Beldar> PeterCassetta, Ah, can be a problem, however rarely, Do youp have windows backed up, say an image saved?
[03:14] <Beldar> you*
[03:14] <daftykins> PeterCassetta: why'd you only answer half my question?
[03:14] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: courageous :) in the meantime i'll look at some things but without logs it's wild geese ..
[03:14] <PeterCassetta> daftykins: It displays the loading bar screen for a while, and then the screen flashes white and the computer reboots.
[03:15] <PeterCassetta> Beldar: Nope, but I'm pretty sure I can access the windows partition just fine in Ubuntu.
[03:15] <Flat4ForLife> Back to root prompt haha I'll try what you said a min ago
[03:15] <daftykins> PeterCassetta: hrmm, ok so it's not likely hitting a BSOD then resetting instantly
[03:15] <lupin> Hey question guys, I am trying to install ubuntu on a partition NTFS but it only sees the whole hard drive not the partition
[03:16] <daftykins> lupin: you can't install to NTFS
[03:16] <lupin> How do I do it? I first left it black as unallocated but it didn't show so I formated the drive
[03:16] <Beldar> PeterCassetta, When you resize windows it does a auto chkdsk, you might run one from a recovery or install disc, or from the f8 prompt if you can   chkdsk/f would be my choice
[03:17] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: it sure is giving you the run for its money lol, what a mess .. can you repaste: lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A 2 please .. i lost the browser tab on that..
[03:17] <lupin> daftykins does it need to  be as FAT?
[03:17] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: so we can rule out what daftykins threw on the board (confirming the 319 supports your card)
[03:18] <daftykins> lupin: you can't install to either, Ubuntu will need preferably either an ext3 or ext4 file system on the partition it's installed to
[03:18] <PeterCassetta> Beldar: Actually there was a recovery partition...
[03:18] <PeterCassetta> Not sure if it'll do any good though.
[03:18] <lupin> daftykins Alright, what should I do to get it ext? When  I leave it blank as unallocated it tries to install to the entire HD
[03:18] <Beldar> PeterCassetta, Did you remove any partitions as part of this install?
[03:18] <dupingping> where do i write autorun script?
[03:19] <PeterCassetta> But I could at least probably make a recovery disk from it.
[03:19] <Flat4ForLife> http://www.picpaste.com/20140204_201838-QDJmqf1q.jpg
[03:19] <PeterCassetta> Beldar: Nope, didn't even go into advanced during Ubuntu install process.
[03:19] <Flat4ForLife> Yes, it is and it's very annoying haha
[03:19] <daftykins> lupin: is ubuntu going to be the only OS?
[03:19] <Beldar> PeterCassetta, Can you run sudo fdisk -l in ubuntu and pastebin it.
[03:19] <PeterCassetta> Beldar: Just gave Ubuntu 14 or so GB.
[03:20] <crocket> beh
[03:20] <Guest83103> hi, how do i enable anon delete on my ftp server? im running vsftpd
[03:20] <crocket> Text Entry's hangul input method sucks.
[03:20] <lupin> daftykins No, I have windows installed onto a SSD and was going to use a small partition on my 2nd HDD to install linux and keep the rest of my media files on that "
[03:20] <PeterCassetta> Beldar: Sure, one sec.
[03:20] <lupin> HD
[03:20] <axsuul> in df -h,  on my dedicated server, it shows I have 96 GB on /dev/md2 mounted on /home, and 20 GB on rootfs mounted to /, is there any way I can transfer that 96GB to rootfs?
[03:20] <crocket> Why does Mark Shutterworth push Text Entry when its input methods suck?
[03:20] <daftykins> lupin: which Windows?
[03:20] <kb3ien> Having serious problems with quagga : http://pastebin.ca/2627265
[03:20] <lupin> daftykins win 8
[03:20] <Beldar> !ot | crocket
[03:21] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: ok, i'm going to check the nvidia info on that card again, get some coffee and return .. won't take long
[03:21] <tapout> how do we remove the online integration of the searching/amazon results?  Some say spyware but whatever
[03:21] <PeterCassetta> tapout: System Settings > Privacy
[03:21] <cfhowlett> !nounity|tapout,
[03:22] <cfhowlett> tapout, or you could just install and use a non-unity desktop environment
[03:22] <daftykins> lupin: ah ok, dualboot 8 with an ubuntu is a bit more of a detailed situation than i have the time for now unfortunately, ask here again about how to partition with a dualboot win8 setup
[03:23] <tapout> ahh sweet, thanks guys
[03:23] <PeterCassetta> tapout: To be more specific, System Settings > Security and Privacy > Search
[03:23] <tapout> PeterCassetta, ya man thank you... i found it!
[03:23] <tapout> online search results = off :)
[03:24] <PeterCassetta> tapout: No problem, I don't like them either :)
[03:28] <tapout> i'm going to try the gnome shell, thanks cfhowlett
[03:28] <tapout> i got unity sorted, now to try this shell :)
[03:28] <cfhowlett> tapout, best of luck.  be aware that there is a an official gnome ubuntu flavor
[03:28] <tapout> what does that mean?
[03:28] <Beldar> PeterCassetta, If you decide to post that fdisk to me be sure to preface it with my nick.
[03:28] <tapout> like, gubuntu?
[03:29] <smeg> So I ran a boot-repair yesterday & now my main 4tb storage drive won't show up in windows, in fact it shows up only in disk management & says it's blank. If I look at it in ubuntu disk utility I am able to mount it & view the files but the disk utility says the partition type  is efi. How do I fix it to show up in windows again?
[03:29] <cfhowlett> tapout, ubuntugnome.org
[03:29] <PeterCassetta> Beldar: Sorry for the wait http://paste.ubuntu.com/6876786
[03:29] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: http://www.geforce.com/drivers confirms your card is supported on the 319 .. although that is good news, we need to look at those logs .. can you paste again right now?
[03:29] <Flat4ForLife> The whole log? Nope, can't get to a gui
[03:31] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: let's try: cat /var/log/syslog | grep nvidia .. but that might not even shorten it if it has a lot of errors
[03:33] <Flat4ForLife> http://www.picpaste.com/20140204_203226-k0T7tk4D.jpg
[03:33] <Beldar> PeterCassetta, Cool I was concerned you had made the HD dynamic, looks good except you have partition numerically out of order is all. The chkdsk might fix this hard to say at this point, but hard to say. Additionally I see no recovery partition.
[03:33] <ardo> Hi all
[03:33] <ardo> Is anyone out there that could possibly help me get Ubuntu running on a custom built computer I just put together?
[03:34] <Beldar> ardo, details to the channel is where you start for help.
[03:34] <lalala> how can I download a file from my other pc using ssh ?
[03:34] <cfhowlett> !install|ardo,
[03:34] <kb3ien> netcat is an easy way to move stuff on the lan.
[03:35] <kb3ien> or scp
[03:35] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: dmesg | grep nvidia
[03:35] <ardo> Sorry, I should've been more specific
[03:35] <ardo> trying to install from a USB stick
[03:35] <ardo> I get a "operating system missing" error any time I boot
[03:36] <lalala> kb3ien, how use scp ?
[03:36] <ardo> from a bootable USB that I created, that is
[03:36] <cfhowlett> ardo, you have to go into your bios to tell it to boot from the USB
[03:36] <tapout> is there a way to look up the Qt5 repository within ubuntu's terminal or some app without going to a website?
[03:36] <ardo> yeah, I've done that
[03:37] <PeterCassetta> Beldar: I'm thinking the recovery partition is /dev/sda2
[03:37] <somsip> lalala: scp user@remote:path/file localpath
[03:37] <PeterCassetta> But yeah, those ids are weird...
[03:38] <Beldar> PeterCassetta, you have what loks like a tiny setup for windows, are you sure you did not delete the vista C partition.
[03:39] <lalala> somsip, it says that they are the same file
[03:39] <somsip> lalala: paste what command you used here
[03:40] <Flat4ForLife> http://www.picpaste.com/20140204_203927-AwceTBm8.jpg
[03:40] <PeterCassetta> Beldar: Yes, it says it has 131752934 blocks.
[03:40] <Beldar> PeterCassetta, I have a hard time telling the partition sizes, can you install gparted in ubuntu and take a screenshot of it and put it in a imagebin?
[03:40] <cfhowlett> PeterCassetta, just occurred to me: assuming this is an older computer, it uses the MBR partition scheme so you're limited to 4 primary partitions.  If you attempt to exceed that, things break ...
[03:40] <PeterCassetta> cfhowlett: Yes, definitely older, 4 years or so now.
[03:41] <cfhowlett> !mbr|PeterCassetta,
[03:41] <cfhowlett> PeterCassetta, ignore that factoid.
[03:41] <arbar> if i "sudo someprog", does someprog know which user used  sudo?
[03:41] <PeterCassetta> cfhowlett: Ha ha, yeah, that wasn't too useful I guess
[03:42] <lalala> somsip, scp matt@192.168.1.101: /home/matt/movie.avi /home/matt/
[03:42] <cfhowlett> PeterCassetta, the command to display all parts has escaped my brain ...
[03:42] <somsip> lalala: you put a space between : and /home...
[03:42] <lalala> yes
[03:42] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: that was a shorty, i'm honestly not sure about what is going on .. a question: the nomodeset param, have you already tried that this time around?
[03:42] <somsip> lalala: use scp matt@192.168.1.101:/movie.avi ~/
[03:42] <PeterCassetta> cfhowlett: All partitions?
[03:42] <somsip> lalala: use scp matt@192.168.1.101:movie.avi ~/
[03:43] <Flat4ForLife> Yes, however I cannot guarantee its in the right spot
[03:43] <cfhowlett> PeterCassetta, but when I was triple booting, the excess partition would write but would also kill a preceding partition rendering whatever was installed there broken.
[03:43] <PeterCassetta> cfhowlett, Beldar, I'll install gparted and post a screenshot.
[03:43] <cfhowlett> PeterCassetta, :)
[03:43] <somsip> lalala: if you log in as matt, the path is relative to /home/matt so just 'movie.avi' not '/home/matt/movie.avi'
[03:43] <lalala> somsip, Great!!! was just the space :)
[03:43] <somsip> lalala: k
[03:43] <Beldar> cool PeterCassetta
[03:43] <lalala> somsip, thank you sooooooooo much
[03:44] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: we can check, cat /proc/cmdline
[03:45] <Flat4ForLife> Has bootimage, root uuid, then ro recovery nomodeset but I am in recovery mode
[03:46] <Flat4ForLife> Does it need to be before or after quiet splash in regular boot?
[03:46] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: as long as it is in there it should be fine
[03:48] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: if you are still up for it, better try and purge nvidia so nouveau has the card for itself .. at least it might bring you back to regular GUI .. what do you think?
[03:48] <Flat4ForLife> I can boot it sometimes to the login screen, resolution is huge and once logged in I get nothing but a mouse. I remember adding a resolution in a file somewhere but I don't remember
[03:48] <lupin> is there a way to dual boot ubuntu and win 8 without having to change it from MBR?
[03:49] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: in /etc/default/grub perhaps? and then doing a sudo update-grub?
[03:49] <cfhowlett> lupin, win8 doesn't come on MBR - efi only IIRC
[03:49] <lalala> somsip, hey,, didn't worked
[03:50] <lupin> mine shows as mbr
[03:50] <lalala> somsip, it just copied the file to the same pc
[03:50] <lupin> my 2nd hdd shows as mbr at least
[03:50] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: another snap please: lsmod | grep nouveau
[03:50] <somsip> lalala: paste the command you used
[03:50] <Beldar> lupin, Did you install it, I have W8.1 on a msdos drive with mbr boot.
[03:51] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: actually just confirm if it says something, no need for snap this time
[03:51] <lupin> Beldar not yet, I have windows installed on SSD with GPT and a 2nd HDD i want to use for linux with MBR
[03:52] <Flat4ForLife> http://www.picpaste.com/20140204_205109-nLlcMP3N.jpg
[03:52] <lalala> somsip, scp matt@192.168.1.101:movie.avi /home/matt/
[03:52] <Flat4ForLife> Oh haha
[03:52] <Beldar> lupin, Ah, theoretically probably possible, but not a standard install in that scenario.
[03:52] <Flat4ForLife> OK I was able to login with huge resolution, but no desktop after thay
[03:52] <lupin> Beldar =/ just giving up at this point, idk enough about computers to get this to work
[03:53] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: what is interesting is a snap of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. checking if the nvidia driver is still referenced there, without purging it's hard to tell what's going on exactly
[03:53] <PeterCassetta> Beldar, cfhowlett, sorry for the holdup: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/66298
[03:53] <somsip> lalala: what is the IP for the machine you are typing this on (ifconfig will tell you)
[03:53] <cfhowlett> lupin, here's an alternative; install virtualbox in windows.  install ubuntu to virtualbox.
[03:54] <lupin> cfhowlett I just want to dual boot windows and linux like ive done for 6 years, suddenly i get a new computer and none of thats possible anymore
[03:54] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: that looks good, nouveau kernel module is loaded, so it might be the conf
[03:54] <Flat4ForLife> I can adjust my keyboard brightness and it shows the bar, but no desktop. So graphics work I guess
[03:54] <PeterCassetta> lupin: Good old Microsoft for ya
[03:54] <cfhowlett> lupin, possible just not painless ...  but I do understand.  Things change ...
[03:54] <PeterCassetta> But, yeah the whole UEFI stuff is a mess.
[03:55] <lalala> somsip,  192.168.1.100
[03:55] <Flat4ForLife> I'll look at my xorg.conf
[03:55] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: well the plot thickens, but that's no news to you .. sorry this is turning out this way
[03:56] <lalala> somsip, i got it
[03:56] <somsip> lalala: then you are missing something. The command will copy from 102.168.1.101 to the local machine.
[03:56] <lupin> i just am suprised that it is this difficult to install linux with windows especially when using 2 different hdds
[03:56] <lalala> somsip, I was typing on the same terminal that I connected to ssh
[03:56] <somsip> lalala: that'll do it
[03:57] <Flat4ForLife> Not your fault, nothing to be sorry about. It is frustrating though
[03:57]  * somsip passes lalala a facepalm
[03:57] <lalala> somsip, working now :) thanks again
[03:57] <Beldar> PeterCassetta, With the HD that full to be honest I'm not surprised, mainly that vista was to start with, if it were me I would try a chkdsk, and if vista is accessible now I would pull out any thing needed.
[03:57] <Beldar> just to be safely backed up with some data.
[03:58] <PeterCassetta> Beldar: Yeah, I'll back up everything needed tomorrow probably, and then maybe try a full reinstall of Windows
[03:58] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: fully understand that .. what we're looking for in the conf is what driver you have in there, nouveau or nvidia?
[03:58] <PeterCassetta> cfhowlett, Beldar, I've got to go, but thanks for the help and insights.
[03:58] <cfhowlett> PeterCassetta, given the apparent age of your machine, you might get better performance from xubuntu or lubunut.  the latter is optimized for older/lower specification devices
[03:58] <Flat4ForLife> OK edited xorg, back to normal resolution. But still no desktop after login
[03:58] <Beldar> PeterCassetta, best of luck.
[03:59] <Flat4ForLife> It's set to nouveau, I changed it earlier
[03:59] <PeterCassetta> cfhowlett: Cool, will keep that in mind.
[03:59] <PeterCassetta> Beldar: Thanks!
[03:59] <Flat4ForLife> Is there a command to start the "desktop"  interface?
[03:59] <zack_> hello
[04:00] <Flat4ForLife> Hi
[04:00] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: okay, at least that's something .. sudo service lightdm start (if on regular ubuntu with unity) .. but if you say you see the brightness indicator that would suggest you're already past login
[04:01] <zack_> i want to change os from xubuntu to ubuntu
[04:01] <Flat4ForLife> Yes, says lightdm is running
[04:01] <cfhowlett> zack_, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:01] <zack_> i allredy tryed
[04:02] <zack_> dint work
[04:02] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log | pastebinit
[04:02] <cfhowlett> zack_, download the ubuntu ISO and clean install
[04:02] <zack_> from where
[04:02] <cfhowlett> zack_, www.ubuntu.com
[04:02] <zack_> can i cave persise link
[04:03] <zack_> can i have persise link
[04:03] <Flat4ForLife> Can't Pastebin, is there something I can grep for?
[04:03] <cfhowlett> zack_, for LTS or current release?
[04:03] <rww> zack_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop , top option
[04:03] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: any mention of errors would be the first thing to look at and share as best as you can
[04:03] <zack_> thanks
[04:04] <aneks> hey guys, I'm trying to install the glib-2.36.3 and I keep getting this error when running make, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6876914/
[04:05] <zack_> i dont have disk/usb
[04:07] <zack_> hello
[04:08] <zack_> hello
[04:08] <Flat4ForLife> Page 1 http://www.picpaste.com/20140204_210728-ZUAUOW8Z.jpg
[04:09] <zack_> hello
[04:09] <Flat4ForLife> Page 2 http://www.picpaste.com/20140204_210735-E0NeMSm7.jpg
[04:10] <zack_> flat4forlife_:hello
[04:10] <Flat4ForLife> Hi
[04:10] <axsuul> in df -h,  on my dedicated server, it shows I have 96 GB on /dev/md2 mounted on /home, and 20 GB on rootfs mounted to /, is there any way I can transfer that 96GB to rootfs?
[04:10] <zack_> i dont have usb/disk
[04:11] <zack_> hello
[04:11] <Flat4ForLife> So how did you install your other OS?
[04:11] <zack_> pre installed
[04:12] <zack_> + update
[04:12] <Flat4ForLife> Please stop saying hello, people will help as they can. Be patient
[04:12] <Flat4ForLife> OK, do you have the ability to obtain a usb/disk?
[04:12] <zack_> posably
[04:12] <zack_> cd-r
[04:12] <Xuisce> Possibly
[04:12] <somsip> !details | zack_
[04:13] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: page 1, near the bottom .. it reports failing authentication .. ls -lh ~/.Xauthority
[04:13] <Flat4ForLife> Then get one, download the Iso, make a bootable media and install
[04:13] <zack_> with cd-r
[04:13] <Flat4ForLife> I'll brb
[04:14] <glitsj16> np
[04:14] <cfhowlett> zack_, the ubuntu ISO exceeds the 750 MB cdrom size.  mini, xubuntu and lubuntu will fit on one CD.
[04:16] <zack_> i got 4gig usb
[04:16] <cfhowlett> zack_, more than sufficient
[04:16] <zack_> thx
[04:17] <zack_> now what
[04:20] <zack_> cfhowlett. yo
[04:20] <cfhowlett> zack_, ? yes?
[04:20] <zack_> now what do i do
[04:21] <cfhowlett> !install|zack_,
[04:21] <cfhowlett> zack_, read the article ...
[04:21] <jacob20023> can anyone make a phishing page for instagram? ill pay 5 usd
[04:21] <somsip> !illegal | jacob20023
[04:22] <willwh> rofl
[04:22] <willwh> that's terribly sad
[04:22] <HDRDanny> !040
[04:22] <HDRDanny> tgay.
[04:22]  * cfhowlett scammers gonna scam
[04:22] <HDRDanny> gay*
[04:22] <willwh> you know jacob20023 you really shouldn't ask things like that, with your real name in your whois data
[04:22] <rww> I note that !o4o applies to #ubuntu-offtopic. #ubuntu bans all of the above because it's not support chat.
[04:22] <rww> HDRDanny: don't use "gay" as an insult, thanks.
[04:22] <willwh> as well as clearly connecting from a domestic ISP :p
[04:22] <willwh> easily traced
[04:22] <willwh> lol
[04:22] <user__> rww: gay
[04:22] <rww> user__: don't.
[04:23] <user__> rww: no offense
[04:23] <zack_> isnt there a way i
[04:23] <jacob20023> Does anyone know how to make a phishing page?
[04:23] <rww> jacob20023: cut it out
[04:23] <willwh> terrible troll?
[04:24] <zack_> can download software raw and then put on a flash drive
[04:24] <cfhowlett> zack_, as the instructions said: download the iso.  then use unetbootin or startup disk creator to install on your usb
[04:25] <zack_> im new to xubuntu
[04:25] <user__> I need a new ubuntu distribution, ubuntu just isn't doing it for me anymore
[04:25] <Flat4ForLife> Glitsj16: Yea it does that after multiple reboots, at that point it doesn't let you log in, so I rm the file and go back and login. Notice the time difference on the left
[04:25] <cfhowlett> zack_, read more - ALL the instructions are on the article I sent you
[04:25] <ianorlin> !flavors | user__
[04:25] <zack_> im also 12 years old so its hard for me to comprehend as im doing algebra
[04:26] <cfhowlett> zack_, fortunately the instructions are written at your grade level ...
[04:26] <Flat4ForLife> This has nothing to do with math. Follow the instructions
[04:26] <user__> Buying a new laptop, need recommendtaions. Thinking about thinkpad x220
[04:26] <cfhowlett> !ot|user__,
[04:27] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: the ~/.Xauthority should be owned by you, if it shows root:root you'll need to change that
[04:27] <cfhowlett> !hardware|user__, sorry, meant to send this one
[04:27] <cfhowlett> user__, note the DELL xps 13 developer edition runs ubuntu out of the box ...
[04:27] <zack_> good im also trying to solve  12-x^2 -2xy = 0
[04:27] <user__> cfhowlett: is it a good machine?
[04:28] <cfhowlett> !ot|zack_,
[04:28] <xangua> zack_ maybe you should focus on your homework
[04:28] <Flat4ForLife> Zack_ troll
[04:28] <zack_> i know the guidelines
[04:28] <xangua> Flat4ForLife: please don't call names
[04:28] <cfhowlett> user__, "good" is an imprecise metric ... good for me? probably.  for you?
[04:28] <rww> y=0, x=sqrt(12)
[04:28] <zack_> thx
[04:28] <ianorlin> it is a function though
[04:28] <cfhowlett> rww, do not feed
[04:29]  * rww giggles
[04:29] <Flat4ForLife> Xangua, wasn't meaning to call a name just saying doesn't seem legit
[04:29] <Flat4ForLife> Glitsj16 I own that file
[04:29] <xangua> Flat4ForLife: then you should lear to use /ignore nickname
[04:29] <user__> cfhowlett: relatively cheap, reliable, sturdy, portable
[04:30] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: good, have you tried logging in as guest or tried to make a new user yet?
[04:30] <Flat4ForLife> Oh OK well excuse me then, I'll just sit in my corner
[04:30] <cfhowlett> user__, I've only read good things - seems comparable to Mac Air but YMMV
[04:30] <trism>  /quit
[04:31] <aneks> does anyone know how I can work around this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877033/
[04:31] <shafox> hi i have lost password to my ubuntu user account. its the only user in my box. i followed the docs and went in the recovery mode on the startup but when i select the root option to go to the shell it asks me give root password for maintenance or type control-d to continue , i dont know the root password thats why i am trying to change it and pressing control-d lets me come to the selection menu again . how to change the password ?
[04:32] <Flat4ForLife> Glitsj16 tried guest, after I click login it goes nowhere, just the background stays up
[04:32] <cfhowlett> shafox, unless you set a root password - there is none
[04:32] <cfhowlett> !root
[04:32] <zack_> ρ1A1v1 = ρ2A2v2 mass  continuity.
[04:32] <cfhowlett> !ot|zack_,
[04:33] <zack_> your welcome mr sarcasem
[04:33] <shafox> cfhowlett, but i never set it. as far as i remember
[04:33] <shafox> is there any other way around ?
[04:34] <zack_> how do i change my password
[04:34] <cfhowlett> !recover|shafox, always worked for me
[04:34]  * rww facepalms
[04:34] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: hmm, to be honest i'm not sure what to advise on this, lost grip on your issue quite frankly .. i realise this isn't good news, but well, better state it in the open
[04:35] <shafox> cfhowlett, i dont want to recover, i want to use the same account.  dont want to reinstall.
[04:35] <zack_> is there a support team i can talk to
[04:35] <cfhowlett> shafox, sorry.  I can't advise other than that
[04:35] <shafox> its fine.
[04:36] <zack_> can i get some help
[04:36] <Nasuka> you forgot your password?
[04:36] <cfhowlett> !details|zack_,
[04:36] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: nouveau seems to be fine according your logs, and all i know about lightdm we've checked
[04:37] <Flat4ForLife> OK no worries, thanks for all your efforts. I think I'm calling it a night and maybe just do a fresh install.
[04:37] <zack_> nope someone put a trojan that took me 3 hours to get out of my pc and i want to change my password
[04:37] <cfhowlett> !password|zack_,
[04:37] <Nasuka> sudo passwd
[04:38] <Flat4ForLife> Thanks again Glitsj16, bye for now
[04:38] <glitsj16> Flat4ForLife: no problem, take out all the data you need thru booting a liveUSB and reinstall might not be a bad idea ..
[04:38] <zack_> i didnt forget it i just want to change
[04:38] <Nasuka> yeah thats how you change it
[04:38] <Nasuka> sudo passwd username
[04:39] <shafox> cfhowlett, going in the guest session gonna help ??
[04:39] <zack_> no such command
[04:39] <cfhowlett> shafox, guest?  you won't be able to make any system changes ...
[04:39] <aneks> does anyone know how I can work around this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877033/
[04:40] <SONA> my ubuntu server booted in degraded raid array
[04:40] <shafox> cfhowlett, ahhh
[04:40] <cfhowlett> !server|SONA,
[04:40] <shafox> !sudo
[04:40] <Nasuka> zack_,  just sudo passwd then
[04:40] <zack_> 100100 1001 1010 1001
[04:40] <Nasuka> wtf
[04:40] <zack_> binary code
[04:40] <cfhowlett> zack_, perhaps it's time you went somewhere else to play
[04:41] <brook> can i install kde desktop on ubuntu 12.10?
[04:41] <Nasuka> yeah
[04:41] <SONA> can some one help or guide me to fix my raid array so it doesn't boot in degraded mode?
[04:41] <cfhowlett> brook, yes.  sudo apt-get install kde    for just the desktop environment
[04:41] <zack_> dont you have somthing bettre to do enstin
[04:42] <Nasuka> who is enstin?
[04:42] <rww> zack_: anything else we can help you with today?
[04:42] <rww> guess not
[04:43] <SONA> ?
[04:43] <cfhowlett> !patience|SONA,
[04:44] <shafox> cfhowlett, can i change the root password from the grub editor ?
[04:44] <cfhowlett> shafox, nope.  if you're only at grub, you are NOT logged into your system so no major changes allowed.
[04:46] <grahamsavage> hey i sudo in as another user
[04:46] <grahamsavage> set umask 0007 and it's still getting like 660 when touch files?
[04:48] <hitsujiTMO> grahamsavage: any chance you can rephrase your question?
[04:48] <grahamsavage> yeah sure.. ok.. my applications are creating files with all the wrong file permissions by default
[04:49] <grahamsavage> each application runs under a different user...  as a test i went in as that user and touched some files to check the file permissions which were coming up as 644
[04:49] <grahamsavage> i would like all the file permissions to default to 770
[04:49] <shafox> cfhowlett, reinstall is the only option then ?
[04:49] <grahamsavage> so i set "umask 0007" but when i go touch testing.. it ends up with  664
[04:49] <hitsujiTMO> grahamsavage: that could be dependent on the app. some apps chmod files themselves
[04:50] <grahamsavage> i'm manually testing though in bash at the moment, so it's not the app currently
[04:50] <cfhowlett> shafox, not yet.  I find it difficult to comprehend that the recovery option doesn't work for you.  Please query this channel again - almost certainly someone knows more than I do.
[04:50] <hitsujiTMO> grahamsavage: you should check the app and see if it has an internal umask option
[04:50] <grahamsavage> yeah but i can't get it working even for me logged in.. so i'm not going to be able to fix the app
[04:51] <grahamsavage> so i'm trying to work out why if i set umask 0007 all the files that i create don't get created as 770
[04:51] <hitsujiTMO> grahamsavage: ok. pastebin the output of: umask && touch me && umask 0007 && umask && touch you && ls -l me && ls -l you
[04:53] <grahamsavage> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fefff99bd619cbf16662
[04:54] <hitsujiTMO> grahamsavage: thats doing what you want.
[04:54] <grahamsavage> hmm i'd like it 770 though
[04:54] <grahamsavage> not 660
[04:54] <hitsujiTMO> ahh. no you can't do that
[04:55] <grahamsavage> why's that :/
[04:55] <hitsujiTMO> you don't want to make .docx files executable when you make them do you?
[04:55] <grahamsavage> yeah kinda.. i'm not actually using any of the default unix permissions
[04:55] <grahamsavage> i basically pretty much just use facl for everything
[04:56] <shafox> cfhowlett, meanwhile i am starting to download lubuntu as ubuntu 12.04 is too much for my old box
[04:56] <hitsujiTMO> 99% of the files you create aren't executable, thats why it doesn't make then executable by default
[04:56] <grahamsavage> the problem with not having the underlying file as 770 then it will apply a mask
[04:56] <grahamsavage> to setfacl.. which means you have to chmod the file
[04:56] <cfhowlett> shafox, I get it.  also consider xubuntu - both work pretty good on "legacy" vintage systems
[04:57] <hitsujiTMO> grahamsavage: unfortunately you will have to chmod u+x,g+x it yourself
[04:57] <grahamsavage> ok no worries
[04:57] <shafox> cfhowlett, i have tried lubuntu , and it was working well in my system. dont want to experiment now . :P
[04:57] <grahamsavage> hitsujiTMO: thanks for the info :)
[04:57] <neredsenvy> Why is it do difficult to create a Windows bootable usb on Ubuntu : /
[04:58] <neredsenvy> I tried 4 new USB sticks 5 ISO Images from MS
[04:58] <neredsenvy> website
[04:58] <neredsenvy> Tried with UNetbin and Winusb
[04:58] <neredsenvy> Takes like 3h to just extract/copy to USB
[04:58] <hitsujiTMO> neredsenvy: its not for UEFI. create a vfat partition. copy over the cntents of the cd. and voila ... done
[04:59] <cfhowlett> neredsenvy, extract and copy?  not the recommended procedure
[04:59] <neredsenvy> hitsujiTMO: I have no idea what you just said 0.o
[05:00] <hitsujiTMO> neredsenvy: what type of system is it? bios or uefi?
[05:00] <neredsenvy> hitsujiTMO: Can you show me an example
[05:00] <neredsenvy> Bios : /
[05:00] <zoidfarb> Hey, I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers, but they don't show up as option under "Additional Drivers". What should I do?
[05:01] <hitsujiTMO> neredsenvy: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[05:01] <hitsujiTMO> zoidfarb: what gpu is it?
[05:01] <neredsenvy> hitsujiTMO: Tried takes 1h to just copy things then gets stuck
[05:02] <hitsujiTMO> neredsenvy: then you have an issue somewhere. possible dodgy usb device if its that slow to write
[05:02] <neredsenvy> hitsujiTMO: Not with all 4 USB drives
[05:03] <zoidfarb> hitsujiTMO: it's a macbook pro 10,1, so it has a dual GPU intel + NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M
[05:03] <neredsenvy> that all work flawlessly on mac/win
[05:03] <hitsujiTMO> neredsenvy: if its taking an hour to write then there's something majorly wrong. have you tested the write speed of the usb?
[05:04] <neredsenvy> hitsujiTMO: No
[05:06] <hitsujiTMO> neredsenvy: under disks in dash, there's an option to benchmark under the gear. can you run that and tell me what write speeds you're getting?
[05:07] <hitsujiTMO> zoidfarb: install nvidia-319               what version of ubuntu is this?
[05:12] <zoidfarb> hitsujiTMO: Ubuntu 13.10. From the command line?
[05:12] <zoidfarb> hitsujiTMO: nvidia-319, not nvidia-319-updates?
[05:13] <hitsujiTMO> zoidfarb: nvidia-319
[05:13] <zoidfarb> thanks!
[05:13] <zoidfarb> let's try
[05:13] <hitsujiTMO> zoidfarb: you will also need to install eith bumblebee or nvidia-prime. try nvidia-prime first: sudo apt-get install nvidia-prime
[05:15] <zoidfarb> okay, I've installed those two packages (and dependencies). I guess I just reboot and hope for the best? What happens if I get a black screen/broken X? Go to recovery terminal and apt-get remove nvidia-319?
[05:16] <hitsujiTMO> zoidfarb: no, apt-get remove nvidia-prime an delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:16] <ineedhelp> hi
[05:17] <zoidfarb> hitsujiTMO: Thanks for your help. I'm going try rebooting now.
[05:19] <ineedhelp>     Having a bit of an issue        http://www.picpaste.com/photo_1-MXWtKCUT.JPG   .... http://www.picpaste.com/photo_2-wWifVpea.JPG..... http://www.picpaste.com/photo_3-zEY2DWCE.JPG
[05:19] <sickular> hi
[05:20] <sickular> does ubuntu live cd have gparted?
[05:20] <cfhowlett> Sickki, greetings
[05:20] <sickular> pls help
[05:21] <sickular> does ubuntu live cd have gparted?
[05:21] <neredsenvy> no
[05:21] <Nasuka> yes
[05:21] <neredsenvy> really ?
[05:21] <neredsenvy> no
[05:21] <Nasuka> sudo apt-get install gparted then
[05:21] <neredsenvy> wont
[05:21] <neredsenvy> work if it's a cf
[05:21] <neredsenvy> cd*
[05:22] <neredsenvy> hitsujiTMO: For some reason both apps get stucj installing grub 0.o on the USB
[05:22] <neredsenvy> why grub
[05:22] <neredsenvy> after they are done
[05:22] <neredsenvy> oh wai
[05:22] <neredsenvy> just got a successfuly install
[05:22] <neredsenvy> brb
[05:24] <ineedhelp> http://www.picpaste.com/photo_2-wWifVpea.JPG can any one pls help
[05:26] <cfhowlett> !enter|neredsenvy,
[05:26] <cfhowlett> sickular, yes it does
[05:31] <ineedhelp> is there a channel for paid help? ubuntu expert for hire?
[05:31] <xangua> ineedhelp: canonical.com
[05:36] <return0> Anyone know a list of tablets which ubuntu actually works on?
[05:36] <cfhowlett> !touch|return0,
[05:39] <villf> any one have experiance with degraded raid booting?
[05:39] <villf> and how to fix it?
[05:39] <cfhowlett> !server|villf, maybe someone on the server channel ...
[05:46] <tapout> cfhowlett, hey  man.. what desktop environment do you actually use?  I tried gnome shell, it's decent but razorqt seems pretty slick...
[05:46] <cfhowlett> tapout, I use UbuntuStudio and have been quite satisfied with the XFCE4 default.  Not as flashy/shiny as Unity, but it gets the job done.
[05:47] <tapout> ubuntustudio-desktop?
[05:49] <shafox>  hi i have lost password to my ubuntu user account. its the only user in my box. i followed the docs and went in the recovery mode on the startup but when i select the root option to go to the shell it asks me give root password for maintenance or type control-d to continue , i dont know the root password thats why i am trying to change it and pressing control-d lets me come to the selection menu again . how to change the password ?
[05:50] <tapout> cfhowlett, wow it looks sweet
[05:51] <zaitzev> nom, got ubuntu reinstalled on my laptop
[05:51] <hitsujiTMO> !noroot | shafox
[05:51] <zaitzev> I feel warm and fuzzy all over
[05:52] <hitsujiTMO> shafox: why did you set a root password?
[05:52] <pnunn> !root
[05:53] <pnunn> !wfm
[05:53] <michagogo|cloud> Once 12.04.4 is out (tomorrow, right?), how does one go about upgrading from 12.04.3?
[05:53] <hitsujiTMO> michagogo|cloud: you don't need to. 12.04.4 isn't an upgrade
[05:53] <rww> michagogo|cloud: same way you update to new security updates or w/e
[05:53] <cfhowlett> michagogo|cloud, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    will do it
[05:54]  * cfhowlett still confused as I already have 12.04.4 ...
[05:54] <michagogo|cloud> Wait, so what's different about it?
[05:54] <hitsujiTMO> michagogo|cloud: new hardware enablement stack
[05:55] <hitsujiTMO> michagogo|cloud: its just new kernel/xorg/etc to support newer hardware
[05:55] <xangua> secutiry updates
[05:56] <xangua> hitsujiTMO: you catually don't recieve new kernel/xorg suff, you need to manually "upgrade" them
[05:56] <xangua> dumb fingers
[05:56] <hitsujiTMO> xangua: yes, hes asking how to upgrade, i'm saying he doesn't need to
[05:58] <michagogo|cloud> Do any of these packages actually get new releases on that day, or is the release day just when it's said that "okay, today's snapshot is a new ISO"?
[05:59] <xangua> michagogo|cloud: just security updates
[05:59] <hitsujiTMO> michagogo|cloud: its a new iso. the packages are already in the repo
[06:01] <shafox> hitsujiTMO, I am not sure whether i have set root password. As far as I remember I didnt.
[06:01] <hitsujiTMO> shafox: what you can do is boot to a live cd and chroot in from there to fix the issue
[06:06] <shafox> hitsujiTMO, installed os is ubuntu 12.04 and right now I am downloading lubuntu latest version. Does lubuntu live cd will work ?
[06:06] <hitsujiTMO> shafox: yes, any live cd will work
[06:07] <Parsi> how to find out if my graphic driver is installed or not?
[06:08] <shafox> hitsujiTMO, thats a relief ...
[06:08] <hitsujiTMO> Parsi: if you can see the graphical interface then its installed. which driver is the question tho. what gpu do you have
[06:08] <shafox> btw if you can point me any documentation regarding how to fix with a live cd then that would be great or any blog post anything....
[06:08] <k3pl3r16> Parsi, you should be able to click on Details in the Unity search
[06:09] <Parsi> hitsujiTMO: IntelHD 3000
[06:09] <Parsi> k3pl3r16: I have removed unity
[06:10] <Parsi> i don't like it
[06:10] <hitsujiTMO> Parsi: then its installed.
[06:11] <Parsi> when I click on an icon, it scales up as an effect
[06:11] <k3pl3r16> Parsi, intel should be installed by default
[06:11] <Parsi> but it becomes a black square in the last second
[06:13] <santiagoR> i think so
[06:13] <k3pl3r16> Parsi, in a terminal use apt-get and try installing apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[06:14] <Parsi> k3pl3r16: what if it's installed already?
[06:14] <k3pl3r16> Parsi, see if it says that xserver-xorg-video-intel is already installed
[06:14] <k3pl3r16> Parsi, what desktop are you using?
[06:15] <Parsi> k3pl3r16: 12.04 classic gnome
[06:16] <k3pl3r16> Parsi, are you using compositing?
[06:16] <Parsi> k3pl3r16: i don't know
[06:17] <k3pl3r16> Parsi, I think if you click system and then windows? does it have windows use compositing?
[06:17] <shafox> hitsujiTMO, found a ubuntu 12.04 iso in my new system. How should I proceed ??
[06:18] <hitsujiTMO> shafox: pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[06:19] <Parsi> k3pl3r16: system>window? i cannot find it
[06:20] <k3pl3r16> Parsi, classic gnome? what about system --> preferences
[06:20] <shafox> hitsujiTMO, will do once i restart .
[06:21] <Parsi> k3pl3r16: nothing there
[06:24] <Parsi> k3pl3r16: no terminal based solution?
[06:26] <boggle> has anyone else been experiencing constant flash-player crashes in chromium recently?
[06:26] <k3pl3r16> Parsi, I dont' know now lol hold on
[06:27] <DwarfDefender> how can i open network manager used in ubuntu from xfce? i need to setup vpn acess and there is no such tab in xfce network manager
[06:27] <santiagoR> google-chrome for the best
[06:27] <santiagoR> DwarfDefender, run service network-manager start as root ?
[06:29] <mstiehm> does ubuntu have a wireshark command line version?
[06:29] <mstiehm> or whats a good packet capture tool for command line usage?
[06:30] <hitsujiTMO> tcpdump
[06:30] <mstiehm> alright i'll check that out thanks
[06:31] <k3pl3r16> Parsi, in a terminal is there a mateconf-editor?
[06:32] <k3pl3r16> Parsi, sorry getting this from another source here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=206&t=94682
[06:32] <Parsi> k3pl3r16: no
[06:33] <neopsyche> hi all
[06:33] <raymond__> hi all
[06:34] <k3pl3r16> Parsi, sorry I can not see how to fix this issue?
[06:35] <k3pl3r16> Parsi, I am not running Mate at the moment. sorry
[06:35] <k3pl3r16> Parsi, I think that this may have something to do with compositing though
[06:35] <hitsujiTMO> Parsi: k3pl3r16 mate isn't supported here
[06:35] <raymond__> do any of u guys run ubuntu studio ?
[06:36] <k3pl3r16> hitsujiTMO, I was just trying to help sorry
[06:36] <nrdb> I have just installed samba4 on a ubuntu server, it is going :-(    The processes are going, samba is listening on some sockets according to netstat, I made minimal changes to the /etc/samba/smb.conf file (just put in a share definition) .... but another computer can't find it.   what could be wrong?
[06:37] <cfhowlett> raymond__, yes I do UStudio
[06:37] <hitsujiTMO> Parsi: are you on mint or did you install mate via ppa?
[06:37] <neopsyche> anyone know how to route specific audio feed to silent output for shoutcast server
[06:37] <neopsyche> remote
[06:37] <duoi> hi all. question: is there anyway i can dual boot ubuntu and another Linux based OS? by dual boot i mean literally dual booting, where two OS' will run in parallel.
[06:38] <hewhomust> what you use two at the same time?
[06:38] <cfhowlett> duoi, at the same time?
[06:38] <duoi> yes
[06:38] <cfhowlett> duoi, easiest way would be to run a virtual OS - virtualbox
[06:38] <qin> duoi: it would be called virtualization
[06:39] <DwarfDefender> is there way to swap xfce to unity, without closing applications?
[06:39] <raymond__> i mised up  my sound in ubuntu studio  if any one can helpme hit me up
[06:39] <qin> DwarfDefender: what application
[06:39] <duoi> cfhowlett, is there a harder way?
[06:40] <cfhowlett> duoi, probably but as virtualbox worked so well, I didn't look for anything more complicated
[06:46] <nrdb> duoi, for a harder way you could try xen kernel etc.
[06:57] <neopsyche> Adobe no longer support linux!!! WHT THE
[06:58] <cfhowlett> neopsyche, move on.  LOTS of alternatives to Adobe software
[06:58] <cfhowlett> !alternatives
[07:04] <neopsyche> Adobe no longer support linux!!! WHT THE
[07:04] <somsip> neopsyche: ok - we get the message
[07:05] <cfhowlett> neopsyche, you seem to be alone in your outrage.  take it up with adobe or in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:07] <neopsyche> perhaps it is good there will be more html 5 dev
[07:11] <MAD_51> morning!!!
[07:13] <Rubas> Godmorning MAD_51
[07:14] <MAD_51> Robas: :-)
[07:14] <MAD_51> Rubas: :-)
[07:19] <kereltis> Hey guys
[07:19] <Guest18994> How does a user submit a feature request?
[07:20] <kereltis> I just updated 14.04, now unity is broken
[07:22] <somsip> kereltis: 14.04 is still in beta, or alpha. Support in #ubuntu+1
[07:22] <somsip> Guest18994: for what package?
[07:22] <kereltis> Ty
[07:23] <Guest18994> somsip, I want to submit a request to add a clock to the lock screen of Unity like gnome-shell has.
[07:23] <somsip> Guest18994: try raising an issue on Unity's launchpad page
[07:23] <russ_> kereltis: What is revision before upgrade?
[07:23] <Guest18994> somsip, Do you have a link to Unity's Launchpad page?
[07:24] <somsip> Guest18994: not immediately on me, no
[07:24] <hewhomust> https://launchpad.net/unity
[07:24] <moblin007> I need help recovering a harddisk. It has an Ubuntu OS.
[07:25] <Guest18994> moblin007, What is wrong with the harddisk?
[07:26] <Guest18994> moblin007, Is it still able to read and write to?
[07:26] <Segfault_> Guest18994: Looks like this is being implemented (has been): http://goo.gl/g63Sh1
[07:26] <moblin007> My computer stopped booting up. I took out the harddrive and put it in the case for an external harddisk. When I attempted to open it with explorer the harrdisk would not appear as a USB device.
[07:27] <moblin007> When I booted an OS via USB I couldn't explore the harddisk when it was still intalled in the computer.
[07:27] <michagogo|cloud> I've noticed that to drag, you need to hold down the mouse button for a bit on whatever you're driving before you move the mouse away
[07:27] <michagogo|cloud> Is there a way to make that not happen?
[07:27] <Beldar> moblin007, windows wont access linux partitions in general without a 3rd party driver.
[07:27] <moblin007> Beldar, I'm not using linux.
[07:27] <moblin007> *Windows
[07:28] <moblin007> Beldar, I'm not using Windows.
[07:28] <hewhomust> sudo fdisk -l
[07:28] <Beldar> moblin007, ubuntu is linux
[07:28] <moblin007> Beldar, I'm not using Windows.
[07:28] <moblin007> It's called a typo.
[07:28] <moblin007> hewhomust one moment.
[07:28] <Beldar> moblin007, Cool, than explain in one post.
[07:29] <moblin007> Beldar, one moment.
[07:29] <russ_> you need to launch with recovery mode.
[07:29] <Segfault_> moblin007: Did you perhaps install using an encrypted LVM or home folder encryption?
[07:29] <Caelum> a friend's computer I built for him is booting to the EFI shell, and says something about startup.nsh and gives a Shell> prompt, I had him go into bios and check that it is still detecting the hard disk, what to do?
[07:30] <moblin007> I attempted to turn on my computer. It did not work passed the BIOS. I started up an OS (Ubuntu 9.04) via USB. It did not allow me to explore the file system of the installed harddisk. I took out the harddisk and placed it in the USB "sleeve." It would not startup as USB.
[07:31] <moblin007> *past
[07:31] <Segfault_> moblin007: Does you BIOS detect the drive?
[07:32] <Segfault_> your*
[07:32] <helmut_> hi
[07:33] <hewhomust> hi
[07:34] <moblin007> hewhomust im currently on moblin and it says fdisk is not a command in the terminal
[07:34] <moblin007> My functional Ubuntu is Jaunty and won't install things easily.
[07:35] <Beldar> moblin007, Jaunty is way into end of life.
[07:35] <hewhomust> yeah lol
[07:35] <moblin007> It's an old harddisk I have laying around that still has it.
[07:35] <moblin007> Moblin is on a USB stick.
[07:35] <moblin007> I have very few resources to resolve this.
[07:36] <moblin007> I want to install testdisk somewhere.
[07:36] <Beldar> moblin007, Get at the least 12.04 and install it, with a 12.04 disk/usb you can check the HD with a smart check.
[07:37] <Satu> any thoughts on best lightweight shells for 12.04? vagrant vs. xfce or xfce4 on a Win32 machine?
[07:37] <moblin007> Beldar, I'm not certain if I can make a LiveUSB at this time but I'll try.
[07:37] <michagogo|cloud> moblin007: also
[07:37] <michagogo|cloud> You may want to wait until tomorrow
[07:37] <michagogo|cloud> 12.04.4 will be released tomorrow
[07:38] <moblin007> What kind of problems can cause a harddisk to go dead?
[07:38] <moblin007> It's bricked as far as I can tell at the moment.
[07:39] <Satu> how about LXDE?
[07:40] <somsip> !best | Satu
[07:40] <hewhomust> openbox
[07:41] <moblin007> I wonder if I have a 12.04 disc laying around somewhere.
[07:42] <Satu> ubottu: thanks!  I just need something to replace Cygwin, which is getting long in the tooth for me as it doesn support things like Ruby RVM
[07:43] <Satu> Bot of course
[07:43] <ZawMyoHtet> hay
[07:44] <hewhomust> ho
[07:45] <Rubas> !debian | Rubas
[07:47] <somsip> Satu: use a VM or dual boot
[07:48] <kutulal> hello everyone!
[07:48] <kutulal> I have recently installed lubuntu-desktop in Ubuntu 12.04.
[07:48] <kutulal> In the lxpanel I have a network icon which shows my current network connection status. I have a wired connection [ethernet] which connects automatically at startup. In Unity or Gnome I observed that this icon changed to to arrows [one up, one down] when wired connection was established. But in lubuntu it showed "disconnected" time icon.
[07:48] <kutulal> How can I change this network icon to behave like in Unity or Gnome? I am submitting image decribing the situation.
[07:48] <kutulal> link:http://i.stack.imgur.com/DaKSo.png
[07:48] <kutulal> Thanks in advance for any help.
[07:49] <kutulal> I have recently installed lubuntu-desktop in Ubuntu 12.04.
[07:49] <kutulal> In the lxpanel I have a network icon which shows my current network connection status. I have a wired connection [ethernet] which connects automatically at startup. In Unity or Gnome I observed that this icon changed to to arrows [one up, one down] when wired connection was established. But in lubuntu it showed "disconnected" time icon.
[07:49] <kutulal> How can I change this network icon to behave like in Unity or Gnome? I am submitting image decribing the situation.
[07:49] <somsip> kutulal: stop
[07:49] <kutulal> link:http://i.stack.imgur.com/DaKSo.png
[07:49] <kutulal> sorry
[07:49] <ZawMyoHtet> after upgrading to Ubuntu 13.10, i got this error "PHP Warning:  pcntl_signal() has been disabled for security reasons in /var/www/api.dev/public_html/vendor/d11wtq/boris/lib/Boris/Boris.php on line 141"
[07:50] <ZawMyoHtet> who has solution,plz
[07:50] <somsip> kutulal: firstly, prepare a patse.ubuntu.com with such a large message. Then post it maybe every 15 mins at the most. Give people time to respond and accept this is a quiet time on the channel
[07:50] <somsip> *paste.ubuntu.com
[07:51] <somsip> ZawMyoHtet: you have upgrade php5 maybe. This function may have been disabled. You can probably reenable it in your php.ini
[07:51] <ZawMyoHtet> thanks somsip
[07:51] <ZawMyoHtet> sure I updated to php
[07:51] <kutulal> @somsip: thanks
[07:52] <somsip> ZawMyoHtet: this will guide you on what I mean: http://is.gd/WgbFeu
[07:53] <ZawMyoHtet> Thanks again
[07:54] <kutulal> somsip: can't open patse.ubuntu.com
[07:55] <kutulal> somsip: can't open patse.ubuntu.com in web browser
[07:55] <ZawMyoHtet> I also can't open paste.ubuntu.com
[07:55] <somsip> kutulal: my typo, as corrected earlier. It's 'paste.ubuntu.com'
[07:56] <somsip> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/paste.ubuntu.com
[07:56] <somsip> It's fine
[07:56] <user__> 123
[07:56] <somsip> !test | user__
[07:59] <kutulal> somsip; I have created a poster. Now should I paste the link every 5 minutes?
[08:00] <Moblin007> Okay
[08:00] <Moblin007> I did fdisk -l in Jaunty.
[08:00] <kutulal> this is my problem:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877719/
[08:00] <somsip> kutulal: every 15 mins is plenty. Less often if the channel is quiet
[08:01] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | Moblin007
[08:01] <bazhang> jaunty is eol Moblin007
[08:01] <Moblin007> bazhang I don't need help with Jaunty but thank you for your concern.
[08:02] <bazhang> Moblin007, whats the relevance of doing sudo fdisk -l
[08:02] <kutulal> ubuntuforumsthread:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2203774
[08:02] <Moblin007> Will 12.04 check the hd if the OS is Linux Mint?
[08:02] <kutulal> askubuntu link:http://askubuntu.com/questions/416632/network-icon-problem-in-lxpanel-in-lubuntu
[08:03] <Moblin007> bazhang someone suggested it as a troubleshooting step.
[08:06] <kutulal> please anybody help! link:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877750/plain/
[08:06] <kutulal> please anybody help! link:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877750/plain/
[08:06] <kutulal> please anybody help! link:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877750/plain/
[08:06] <kutulal> please anybody help! link:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877750/plain/
[08:06] <kutulal> please anybody help! link:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877750/plain/
[08:06] <kutulal> please anybody help! link:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877750/plain/
[08:06] <kutulal> please anybody help! link:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877750/plain/
[08:06] <kutulal> please anybody help! link:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877750/plain/
[08:06] <kutulal> please anybody help! link:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877750/plain/
[08:07] <ZawMyoHtet> problem solved! Thanks <somsip>
[08:07] <Moblin007> hewhomust are you still there?
[08:09] <hewhomust> kutulal just paste the url please
[08:11] <somsip> ZawMyoHtet: np
[08:11] <NewerGuy> I'm trying to identify my touchpad and install proper drivers. Can somebody point me in the right direction?
[08:11] <ZawMyoHtet> what is your laptop brand?
[08:11] <Moblin007> cannot mount volume. wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error in some cases useful info is found in sysyslog - try demesg | tail or so
[08:13] <NewerGuy> It's an Acer E1-572-6870.
[08:13] <NewerGuy> There were two brands listed for Windows drivers but I'm not sure which is in my system.
[08:17] <Moblin007> Where can I find help repairing a corrupted harddisk?
[08:21] <CrazyGangster> !ecovery | Moblin007
[08:21] <CrazyGangster> !recovery | Moblin007
[08:21] <shafox> while dd to burn an image the source would be the usb stick that is mounted right ? what is the location for that i see /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdb3 /dev/sdb4 /dev/sdb5 /dev/sdb6
[08:24] <NewerGuy> Does anyone know how to virtually identify a touchpad? At least the brand.
[08:25] <Beldar> NewerGuy, see if it shows in lsusb in the terminal.
[08:26] <NewerGuy> I couldn't identify it from the output. Can I PM it to you?
[08:26] <Beldar> NewerGuy, I have pm off, you want the channels help.
[08:26] <NewerGuy> Ok, I just didn't want to flood the channel.
[08:27] <Beldar> NewerGuy, You can pastbin all of the lsusb output
[08:27] <NewerGuy> Ok, good call. One sec.
[08:27] <trung> I got problem trying to install "ubuntu-sdk" on kubuntu, it says I have broken dependencies (does not show up in synaptics)
[08:27] <trung> this is the package  ubuntu-sdk : Depends: qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu but it is not going to be installed
[08:27] <trung> what could be the problem?
[08:28] <honeybuntu> installed ubuntu 12.04.3 on yet another amd64 - if i have 1st: /boot EFI partition, 2nd: "/" partition, 3rd: my "/home" in its separate partition, 4th: a swap space partition, isn't that the proper order in which to create and maintain Ubu 12.04.3 LTS partitions?
[08:28] <NewerGuy> If anyone can identify my touchpad, please let me know. Lspci -vv output: http://pastebin.com/tRf46i9F
[08:29] <Beldar> trung, This with the ppa's added?
[08:29] <Kwik> Hey guys. I heard that there is a /etc/resolv.conf-manager in Ubuntu. What's the name of that Manager? Network Manager?
[08:30] <honeybuntu> what i would like to ask is: i know there is a specific order in which the various partitions must be arranged - however, i was otherwise instructed recently (not in freenode/#ubuntu) that i should create my "boot/EFI" partition 1st, secondly the: "/" partition, thirdly: the "Swap" partition, and finally my "/home" partition. This sounded odd to me but i came here to confirm.
[08:31] <Kwik> Is the manager's name resolvconf?
[08:31] <Kwik> is the managers-name resolvconf?
[08:31] <jackyalcine> trung: do you have canonical's PPA for Qt5
[08:31] <trung> Beldar: yes
[08:32] <trung> jackyalcine: I am not aware about that PPA since I used the instruction on the ubuntu main page, what would that be?
[08:33] <Beldar> trung, I would check for any package name changes, I assume you ran a update and dist-upgrade after adding the PPA, you might have to contact that team to get a definitive answer.
[08:33] <jackyalcine> looks like it's not necessary
[08:33] <jackyalcine> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ppa
[08:33] <trung> Beldar: do they have an IRC channel or should I just email them
[08:35] <honeybuntu> BIND Domain Name System resolver library
[08:35] <Beldar> trung, I don;t see a channel, an email seems like the way, another users suggests it's not needed so check if this is true.
[08:36] <Captcha2> hello
[08:38] <gabrielb> Hello All, can anyone tell me if the following link provides sufficient steps to configure Ubuntu 12.04 to send email out? link:  https://library.linode.com/email/exim/send-only-mta-ubuntu-12.04-precise-pangolin
[08:39] <honeybuntu> -->Kwik: check this website if you want more info on resolv.conf -  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/resolv.conf
[08:44] <mikejudge> can i still buy old versions on disc somewhere
[08:44] <glitsj16> NewerGuy: can you paste the output of: "xinput --list" on paste.ubuntu.com?
[08:45] <mikejudge> i need non pae maybe 11.10
[08:45] <NewerGuy> Sure, give me a few moments.
[08:46] <honeybuntu> i was told i can rely on this channel to get assistance. my reason for seeking help here is that i'm tired of being supplied "erroneous" information by prankish rogues at work. i'm the target of their pranks - so if my questions sound outrageously inept - please bear with me - i am very new to LINUX Ubuntu.
[08:46] <NewerGuy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877914/
[08:47] <NewerGuy> Looks like it might be ID4. Is there verbose switch?
[08:48] <somsip> mikejudge: if you just need non-PAE, the options are listed here http://is.gd/NZcK8z
[08:48] <glitsj16> NewerGuy: i think it is id 13, you can check with "xinput --list 13", paste that as well so we can confirm
[08:48] <mikejudge> somsip: its more difficult as i have no burner so im hoping to buy it from somewhere
[08:49] <honeybuntu> installed ubuntu 12.04.3 on amd64 laptop (NOT dual-boot) - if i have 1st: /boot EFI partition, 2nd: "/" partition, 3rd: my "/home" in its separate partition, 4th: a swap space partition, isn't that the proper order in which to create and maintain Ubu 12.04.3 LTS partitions?
[08:49] <NewerGuy> I think you're right, it does say touchpad, but that Brand wasn't listed on Acer's site at all...
[08:49] <NewerGuy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877919/
[08:51] <honeybuntu> i know there is a specific order in which the various partitions must be arranged - however, i was otherwise instructed recently (not in freenode/#ubuntu) that i should create my "boot/EFI" partition 1st, secondly the: "/" partition, thirdly: the "Swap" partition, and finally my "/home" partition. This sounded odd to me but i came here to confirm.
[08:52] <ttal> Hi people.
[08:52] <somsip> honeybuntu: there is no need to repeat this every few mins.
[08:52] <glitsj16> NewerGuy: looks like the Elantech is your touchpad .. normally touchpad driver is already installed in ubuntu, part of the xserver .. can you run: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-input-* please
[08:52] <NewerGuy> Sure, hold on.
[08:53] <mikejudge> honeybuntu: i have 2 partitions, / and swap, i have no need for /home on its own, if its your first install maybe just have them 2 partitions
[08:53] <NewerGuy> Output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877929/
[08:54] <honeybuntu> -->somsip: good, that saves me time.
[08:54] <NewerGuy> It looks like there is actually a Windows driver for an Elantech touchpad so that's got to be it.
[08:54] <somsip> honeybuntu: go read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace
[08:55] <ttal> Does anybody know a way to make every program in ubuntu quit with the same keyboard shortcut? Some programs quit with ctrl+q, ctrl+w, ctrl+shift+q. I'd love them to all use ctrl+q.
[08:55] <honeybuntu> -->mikejudge: i was told that it was more secure to have "/home" in its own partition but thank you for your input.
[08:56] <honeybuntu> -->somsip: thanks for the URL..on my way to parsing it.
[08:57] <p2ivate> how do i create an A record?
[08:57] <aeon-ltd> ttal: not a true quit, but you can map close window on most window managers
[08:57] <somsip> p2ivate: at your DNS provider. Not here
[08:58] <glitsj16> NewerGuy: looks like you're missing some packages .. run: xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-saucy and tell us how that goes
[08:58] <glitsj16> NewerGuy: correction: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-saucy
[08:59] <NewerGuy> Ok, hold on.
[08:59] <NewerGuy> And I'm loving these names.
[08:59] <glitsj16> NewerGuy: that is a meta-package that has all input device drivers, odd that you don't have one of those, but we'll see what gives
[09:00] <p2ivate> so its not something i would do on my own server?
[09:00] <somsip> p2ivate: no. At your DNS provider
[09:00] <NewerGuy> Error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877964/
[09:01] <EDMyo> ubuntu users are p cool.. so this seems relevant to spam here ;D
[09:01] <EDMyo> Who's into Electronic Dance Music? Come join the fresh new channel ##EDM and meet like-minded peeps. Aw yee, advertisement
[09:01] <somsip> !spam | EDMyo (wrong)
[09:01] <EDMyo> :<
[09:01] <glitsj16> NewerGuy: try: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-all
[09:01] <NewerGuy> Ok.
[09:02] <NewerGuy> That seemed to run fine but the previous command returned the same error.
[09:03] <honeybuntu> -->somsip: good URL, was searching for this info for 3 days. Appreciate it muchly. G'nite
[09:04] <glitsj16> NewerGuy: can you do another paste of: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-input* please, so we can see if you have what you need now
[09:05] <NewerGuy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877980/
[09:06] <NewerGuy> Nothing by Elantech in there. Maybe I need some generic library?
[09:07] <tangorri> Hi
[09:07] <tangorri> how would I update my php to 5.4 plase (12.04lts
[09:07] <somsip> tangorri: only by upgrading to a newer version, or using the ondrej PPA which is not supported here
[09:09] <glitsj16> NewerGuy: ok, at least that confirms you have a synaptics package installed, that's a generic name for touchpad drivers .. can you run: lsmod | grep mouse and tell us what that did?
[09:09] <zx42o> os=ubuntu 12.04 (x86), installed updates then reboot, computer hangs with blinking cursor, can boot into recovery mode
[09:10] <NewerGuy> psmouse                82769  0
[09:10] <NewerGuy> I have no idea what that means.
[09:10] <glitsj16> NewerGuy: good, it means the generic mouse driver from the linux kernel is loaded
[09:11] <NewerGuy> Ok, then is my Elantech just not supported by the generic driver?
[09:11] <glitsj16> but you might need to add something to it, at least that is what i see on: http://software.techassistbox.com/ubuntu-ubuntu-1204---acer-aspire-e1-572-backlight-touchpad-ethernet_84088.html
[09:11] <zx42o> the fastest fix at this point would be to just reinstall ubuntu, but was hoping for a better option
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> NewerGuy: is it a mouse mouse, or a touchpad on a laptop?
[09:12] <somsip> tangorri: and if you do use ondrej PPA, make sure you know the effects. You might need to use ondrej/php50oldstable
[09:12] <somsip> *php5-oldstable
[09:12] <NewerGuy> It's a touchpad.
[09:12] <glitsj16> NewerGuy: it probably is, the name of the brand doesn't always relate to a brand in linux .. and it is called 'mouse', a bit confusing if you're looking for a touchpad
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> NewerGuy: what make and model laptop?
[09:12] <Beldar> zx42o, Have you tried the low graphic boot from the recovery?
[09:13] <NewerGuy> Acer E1-572-6870.
[09:13] <samanta23> Hey everyone, I have windows 7. I installed kubuntu and I try to move files from the windows to ubuntu. How do I do it?
[09:13] <samanta23> (I have kubuntu on vbox)
[09:14] <NewerGuy> glitsj16: are there any other mouse drivers or libraries I should try?
[09:14] <tangorri> thanks I'm goind to change my php code to 5.3 instead
[09:14] <somsip> samanta23: you should be able to mount the host's drive in kubuntu on vbox. Have a look around the vbox menu when the VM is running.
[09:15] <samanta23> somsip: I tried without success, can you help me privately?
[09:16] <aeon-ltd> samanta23: did you install the extras?
[09:16] <NewerGuy> I don't know if this is of any use but it looks like it might be related: http://software.techassistbox.com/ubuntu-ubuntu-1204---acer-aspire-e1-572-backlight-touchpad-ethernet_84088.html
[09:16] <samanta23> aeon-ltd: I don't know, how do I check it?
[09:17] <somsip> samanta23: no, I can't
[09:17] <aeon-ltd> samanta23: they're called 'guest additions' sound familiar?
[09:17] <glitsj16> NewerGuy: i think you have all you need now, but according to that page it might need some extra params for the driver to work properly on your hardware .. ActionParsnip: could you help out NewerGuy on this, the link above mentions adding the proto=imps param to his psmouse module .. i have an appointment in 10 minutes and i really should have a shower before, can you assist please?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> NewerGuy: run:   echo "options psmouse proto=imps" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf; sudo modprobe -r psmouse; modprobe psmouse proto=imps
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> NewerGuy: is it ok?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> NewerGuy: source: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192280
[09:18] <NewerGuy> Checking.
[09:18] <glitsj16> ActionParsnip: appreciated, thanks :)
[09:19] <NewerGuy> No, error. I'll pastebin.
[09:19] <NewerGuy> Thank for helping, glitsj16. :)
[09:19] <samanta23> I got it. 10x!
[09:19] <glitsj16> NewerGuy: very welcome, your in capable hands :)
[09:19] <NewerGuy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6878018/
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> NewerGuy: try a reboot, the conf file will make the change stick
[09:24] <NewerGuy> Ok, I'll be right back.
[09:30] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:30] <cristian_c> I've installed mozplugger
[09:30] <cristian_c> But if I open a pdf document in the browser, I can't use the keyboard anymore
[09:32] <cristian_c> then, I've tried to change a line in /etc/mozpluggerrc.d/62-documents.conf
[09:32] <cristian_c> from: repeat noisy swallow(evince) fill needs_xembed: evince "$file"
[09:33] <cristian_c> to: repeat noisy swallow(evince) fill: evince "$file"
[09:33] <cristian_c> but this trick didn't solve the problem
[09:33] <OerHeks> cristian_c, known issue > http://askubuntu.com/questions/8470/embedded-pdf-readers-dont-recognise-keyboard-input
[09:33] <cristian_c> OerHeks, ?
[09:34] <mikejudge> is there a way to move the launcher bar like to the bottom of the screen
[09:34] <OerHeks> cristian_c, lots of bugreports in that post, no solution yet
[09:34] <cristian_c> OerHeks, but I've tried that trick
[09:34] <cristian_c> OerHeks, what have I to do, then?
[09:35] <linelevel> Hi guys. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. For some reason whenever I attempt to copy a file from any ext* partition to any of my FAT32 USB drives, the transfer almost finishes (gets to 100% or close), but then hangs without finishing. If I yank the USB drive and plug it back in, the file appears to have copied perfectly, but I can't figure out why it hangs like that and forces me to yank the drive without a safe ejection. Can anyone help?
[09:35] <OerHeks> cristian_c, use an other pdf reader, file a bugreport or confirm existing bugreports, and wait for an update
[09:35] <cristian_c> OerHeks, ok
[09:36] <NewerGuy> ActionParsnip: my touchpad seems to be working perfectly now but my system froze during the shutdown process...
[09:37] <NewerGuy> I had to use the power button.
[09:37] <NewerGuy> I'm going to try a system update and restart now just to make sure this won't keep happening.
[09:38] <sandGorgon> linelevel, use rsync -aP <source> <dest> to copy
[09:40] <bristleback> Hi
[09:40] <tapout> why would someone use kubuntu when you can just have ubuntu and install kde-plasma-desktop ?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> tapout: fewer packages installed and to update
[09:40] <russ_> Hi.I want to use light desktop capture application except webcamstudio. Does anyone know it?
[09:41] <tapout> to update?
[09:41] <Rubas> tapout: thereby less trafic used, bandwidth saved, makes the world a better place to live
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> tapout: yes, think about it you will have gnome and kde to run updates for
[09:41] <bristleback> I would like to write a free linux application similar with yahoo messenger and I would like opinions regarding this idea
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> tapout: so if you are using kde, why have gnome installed too? it's a waste
[09:41] <tapout> ahh okay
[09:41] <tapout> thanks
[09:42] <tapout> i'm pretty shocked hell nice  UbuntuStudio i s
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> tapout: by your reckoning, why not just instrall every available package?
[09:42] <tapout> ActionParsnip, actually i'm trying all the desktop environments ... i wanna get a feel for each
[09:42] <linelevel> sandGorgon: I've tried rsync (usually with -rtvP ...I only use -a for backups), it hangs at 100% on each file, but it never finishes and renames the file to its proper name. I end up having to Ctrl+C out of it.
[09:42] <tapout> which desktop enviornment are you running?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> tapout: no bad thing. Its fun to try new things
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> tapout: LXDE
[09:43] <tapout> lxde?  hrmm, is that for germans?  (DE) :)
[09:43] <tapout> haven't heard of it, checking it out
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> de = desktop environment
[09:45] <babilen> tapout: There is no real reason for the existance of "Kubuntu", "Ubuntu" and "Xubuntu" as all three are, essentially, simply "Ubuntu" + Desktop Environment. You can, naturally, install all desktop environments on all of them (and also remove previously installed ones and thereby turning "Xubuntu" into, say, "Ubuntu")
[09:45] <tapout> babilen, ahh neat
[09:45] <NewerGuy> ActionParsnip: my system seems to consistently freeze during the shutdown process. It restarts normally. Any idea why? The touchpad drivers seems to be working fine now.
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> tapout: you can even not use a DE and just use a window manager on it's own. Lower resource use
[09:46] <babilen> tapout: It is, IMHO, simply a misguided attempt to make it easier for completely new users who expect the "One OS, one Interface" design of Windows to hold true. A bunch of them unfortunately believe that you'll have to reinstall in order to switch interfaces.
[09:46] <tapout> i don't get the love for openSUSE that people are showing it.  I've installed 3 flavors of ubuntu, no issues.  Tried to install opensuse and multiple errors (ya i'm in vmware workstation, but so what :)
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> NewerGuy: are there any bugs reported?
[09:47] <babilen> tapout: Think of them as differing in the pre-selected desktop environment and some "branding" (background pictures, names, ...)
[09:47] <tapout> babilen, i installed like 4 different DE's, all you gotta do is logout, hit the button.. choose another, login, boom
[09:47] <tapout> profit :)
[09:47] <NewerGuy> No popups but is there a lower level error reporting system?
[09:47] <tapout> babilen, which DE are you running?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> NewerGuy: if you run:   sudo shutdown -h now    does it turn off?
[09:48] <NewerGuy> I will check in a moment, I'm trying to revew this System Log Viewer.
[09:51] <NewerGuy> Ok, checking now. The last two times I tried to shutdown with the GUI button and it froze on that shutdown page with the bar sliding across the screen.
[09:53] <babilen> tapout: I am not using a DE at all but a window manager called "awesome"
[09:53] <Rubas> I have to change the time to my country time, how do I do that on a Ubuntu server?
[09:53] <Rubas> GMT +1
[09:54] <gordonjcp> babilen: if you tried to fit the three major DEs into the install image, it would be very large
[09:54] <gordonjcp> babilen: it's already pushing what you can comfortably fit on a CD
[09:54] <NewerGuy> ActionParsnip: Same problem.
[09:54] <gordonjcp> (not that anyone uses CDs any more)
[09:55] <gordonjcp> babilen: I suspect most people wouldn't want to download a ~2GB image that contained two DEs they had no intention of using
[09:55] <babilen> gordonjcp: Yes, I totally see the need to provide different install images, just not for the (apparent) existance of different distributions that, in essence, only differ in branding and pre-selection of the DE
[09:55] <jirido> Hi. I just uninstalled nvidias driver and installed driver 304 for nvidia (recomended) but when i rebooted i did not come further then here to the console..
[09:56] <jirido> This is a paste fom what i get when i do sudo start x.. I need some advice
[09:56] <jirido> http://pastebin.com/YrBCuj8s
[09:58] <jirido> xinit: server errorIt does genaraly state something about missmatch between driver and kernel module
[09:59] <jirido> What is the command to update the kernel module?
[09:59] <gordonjcp> babilen: so how would you do it?
[09:59] <gordonjcp> babilen: how would you provide Ubuntu installers with different DEs?
[10:00] <tarzaneck> hello :)
[10:00] <Styles> Hi
[10:01] <Styles> Alright so odd thing happened the other day, logged in, gnome wasn't running. It defaulted to the original Ubuntu theme. I can't change it back either. I checked Xorg.log nothing of value.
[10:01] <Styles> Also the graphics driver seems to have reverted to the stock one
[10:03] <tapout> hey ActionParsnip, my f11 key is not being sent to Qt Creator, it's toggling the bottom taskbar... any idea how to disable that?
[10:09] <P1raten> Is there any way to set permissions for who can set directory permissions? I know root can set permissions for directories. But is there any way for me to set so that UserA only can change file permissions for a specific directory/subfolders?
[10:09] <NewerGuy> ActionParsnip: It seems like you've got a lot on your plate, I'll just deal with my new issue another day.  Thanks for helping me get the touchpad going.
[10:09] <TJ-> P1raten: Yes. Set permissions on the directory itself
[10:10] <pretty_function> set userA the owner?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> NewerGuy: just at work, i dip in and out
[10:10] <P1raten> So setting the userA as the owner of the directory will make him able to manipulate it as he pleases?
[10:10] <Nasuka> yeah'
[10:11] <geirha> P1raten: Apart from root, only the owner of a file may change its mode. If you need anything more advanced than that, you have to resort to ACLs
[10:11] <P1raten> geirha: alright. thanks
[10:11] <NewerGuy> ActionParsnip: It's alright, I understand. Other people want your help too though and my system is usable for now. I'll figure it out another day unless you have any particularly strong hunches.
[10:12] <masood> I need help http://goo.gl/WFS6WK
[10:13] <tapout> babilen, why would one use a 'windows manager' versus 'desktop environment' ?
[10:13] <Nasuka> you want to customize it yourself plus its lighter
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> tapout: fewer resources used
[10:16] <xforking> Hello, i am fairly new to linux but got hooked on kubuntu so now i'm desperately trying to learn as much as i can about it. Alot of packages or files have some very strange names. Are there any patterns to the filenamnes that makes it easier to discern what exactly they do?
[10:16] <Nasuka> xforking, I just search online really but you can use synaptic to search for packages
[10:19] <xforking> Nasuka, well i know i can find them one way or another. I'm more curious if it's possible to see from the filenames what they are exactly. I know the architecture is listed in the filenames quite often. Or perhaps there's no standard for this?
[10:22] <tapout> babilen, are you using awesome inside of gnome?
[10:26] <starrats> I have a question for you folks.  What ubuntu distro would be better for me to install on my virtualbox, 12.04 LTS or 13.10?  I have both on dvd's.
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> starrats: 12.04 has Unity2D which is lighter
[10:27] <OerHeks> ActionParsnip +1
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> starrats: its also LTS wheras Saucy is not
[10:28] <Nasuka> 14.04
[10:28] <Nasuka> upgrade from 12.04 when its released
[10:28] <starrats> ah ok, been reading up on both just wasn't sure about which one.  Currently running xubuntu on my VB and I like it but want to try a different version/distro.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> could use pre-release 1404 depends how critical the systemis
[10:29] <starrats> thank you ActionParsnip
[10:29] <TJ-> With pulseaudio, pacmd, how does one obtain a list of valid profiles? I'm seeing "Failed to set card profile to 'output:analog-surround-71' "
[10:29] <starrats> think I'll stick with something stable at the moment.
[10:30] <xforking> ActionParsnip, how well does intel 4000 gpu work with ubuntu 13.10? I tried ubuntu yesterday and it was lagging my socks off, but perhaps the gpu isnt powerful enough to handle it?
[10:31] <babilen> tapout: No
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> xforking: there is a GUI  Intel driver installer. That's all I really know
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> xforking: try it in liveCD and test
[10:35] <xforking> ActionParsnip, thanks for the heads up though i'll probably try it with 14.4
[10:35] <abhishek_> hi!
[10:35] <abhishek_> I need some help here.
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> abhishek_: ask away
[10:37] <abhishek_> I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 on a 1GB core2duo computer.
[10:37] <abhishek_> Should I upgrade to Ubuntu 13?
[10:40] <gordonjcp> abhishek_: no
[10:40] <JamesKZOO> do it, it'll add +50 to your character's experience level
[10:40] <starrats> ActionParsnip have decide to install 12-04-3 LTS since has the LTS, thank you very much.
[10:40] <gordonjcp> 13.04 and 13.10 are both alpha-test quality
[10:40] <gordonjcp> neither will work if you have intel graphics
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> abhishek_: 12.10 is EOL, so you will need to upgrade a lot to get to a supported release
[10:41] <gordonjcp> there's a serious regression in the intel driver
[10:41] <gordonjcp> stick with 12.04 until the devs get it sorted out
[10:42] <abhishek_> gordonjcp: oh I do have Intel graphics. Thanks for the heads-up!
[10:42] <DJones> gordonjcp: Huh? I have intel graphics and 13.04 & 13.10 have been rock solid, no issues at all
[10:42] <abhishek_> gordonjcp: ahem ahem!
[10:42] <gordonjcp> DJones: bet it isn't
[10:43] <DJones> gordonjcp: Yes it is
[10:43] <gordonjcp> *every* intel chipset suffers from a gradual and progressive font corruption in 13.04 and above
[10:43] <abhishek_> Well, I mainly wanted to ask if there are stability updates worth upgrading to; all the while the system NOT consuming more resources.
[10:43] <xforking> Abishek, what gpu exactly? I have intel as well. Works 99% of the time though kwin has crashed a few times.
[10:43] <DJones> gordonjcp: Well if it does, its not something thats noticable
[10:44] <gordonjcp> DJones: you're lucky, then
[10:44] <gordonjcp> DJones: which chipset in particular?
[10:45] <gordonjcp> gen 7 chipsets don't seem to be affected
[10:45] <starrats> I have windows7 laptop and xubuntu 13-10 on VB and I'm going to install Ubuntu 12-4-3LTS also on my VB, will there be any problems?
[10:45] <gordonjcp> so, basically Linux is only suitable for very new PCs with Intel
[10:46] <OtiG> Hi everybody!
[10:46] <DJones> gordonjcp: Not sure exactly, i3-350 with INtel HD graphics
[10:46] <gordonjcp> for anything more than a couple of years old, you'll want to look at an alternative to Linux
[10:46] <gordonjcp> DJones: gen 6
[10:46] <gordonjcp> or gen 7?
[10:46] <gordonjcp> more likely the latter
[10:46] <DJones> gordonjcp: No idea
[10:46] <gordonjcp> anyway
[10:46] <gordonjcp> if you've got anything older than Gen 7 you'd be better switching to Windows XP
[10:47] <Nasuka> or crunchbang
[10:47] <gordonjcp> Nasuka: not supported
[10:47] <gordonjcp> Nasuka: Linux no longer supports Intel chipsets older than Gen 7, it appears
[10:48] <gordonjcp> since there are fatal regressions in pretty much every module, that no-one cares to fix
[10:52] <soldat900> hey guys
[10:53] <chemist^> hey soldat900
[10:53] <Aneiron> Hello, I am trying to install the latest release of Monodevelop on Ubuntu 13.10 from source, but I get many error messages about gtk/gdk assembly references. My google fu is failing me, does someone know of a solution?
[10:56] <tapout> ActionParsnip, I checked out LXDE.. very nice, but what is even nicer, RazorQT
[10:56] <tapout> so far, razorqt is the fastest and cleanest i've found
[10:57] <tapout> i didn't get awesome installed properly, or it didn't pop up on my login screen to check it .. so I didn't get a chance to check out awesome, but RazorQT
[10:57] <tapout> is sweet
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> tapout: similar kind of deal RazrQt is based on Qt
[10:58] <bessono> Aneiron, Why you not install monodevelop by apt-get? Why from source?
[10:58] <tapout> ActionParsnip, and it's sooo darn fast man.. i can't believe how fast it is
[10:58] <Aneiron> bessono: thank you for answering, isn't that version 3.0.2 or something, whereas the newest is 4+?
[10:59] <Ojeu> Greetings!
[10:59] <Ojeu> I'd just like to shoot a quick question
[10:59] <Ojeu> Is there any way to restrict users from running scripts or similar on mounted usb devices?
[11:00] <fieranna> Ojeu: there is, you can change the default permissions for how the stick is mounted, but I cannot remember how . I would look at usb mounting docs however.
[11:00] <tapout> somehow, when I go to login ... my screen got switched from the default to what UbuntuStudio uses... how can I disable that?  or change it back?
[11:01] <bessono> Aneiron, I'm use 2.8 and do not have problems :)
[11:02] <fieranna> tapout: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202129/how-i-can-change-the-gdm-login-screen-wallpaper
[11:02] <bessono> Aneiron, try 2.8 like me, it's stable version with support .net 4,3.5,3,and 2
[11:03] <tapout> fieranna, thank you!
[11:03] <tapout> where do you guys get your desktop backgrounds?  any cool ones you guys are using?
[11:03] <bessono> Aneiron, But if you have to use latest version from source You must install GTK lib for development
[11:04] <Ojeu> fieranna: Thank you! I will have a look
[11:06] <bessono> Aneiron, Sorry I have to go, be lucky!
[11:06] <Aneiron> bessono: cheers
[11:07] <xforking> tapout, i'm using a ubuntu steel wallpaper :)
[11:07] <fieranna> tapout: Just be aware that sometimes on a shared computer your desktop backdrop ends up on the login screen.
[11:08] <tapout> xforking, where did you get it?  damn that looks sweet
[11:09] <xforking> tapout, check your private messages.
[11:11] <ServerSage> So is it possible to know how far along do-release-upgrade is?
[11:15] <tapout> jeffac
[11:15] <n00bdev> connecting...
[11:16] <tapout> lol, vmware session
[11:16] <tapout> alt|tab fail
[11:16] <tapout> connect if it lets you :)
[11:16] <lobna> hi
[11:17] <tapout> what browser do you guys use?
[11:17] <tapout> chromium i'm guessing?
[11:17] <n00bdev> ?
[11:17] <starrats> firefox for me
[11:18] <n00bdev> How are you guys doing?
[11:18] <tapout> GREAT, now that I've installed razorqt
[11:20] <n00bdev> is there a channel for Android developement?
[11:20] <tapout> with qt?  i think #necessitas
[11:21] <Aneiron> n00bdev: at least #android-dev, is there life in that channel?
[11:22] <n00bdev> Aneiron: I don't know. It requires registration. Do you know of any other channel?
[11:25] <Aneiron> n00bdev: which channels have you tried?
[11:29] <chemist^> can anyone please tell me where is the "hostnames" file located ... i used a hostname for an internal IP - to connect to my server via ssh: user@server ... where is this file? i don't remember ... i need to change the IP of "server"
[11:29] <chemist^> is it under ssh config?
[11:30] <ServerSage> chemist^: Do you want the GUI way, or the command line way?
[11:31] <chemist^> command line please :)
[11:31] <ServerSage> chemist^: Look at the /etc/network/interfaces file
[11:32] <chemist^> damn, i thought of that, but said to my self it's not in there
[11:32] <ServerSage> chemist^: I have to run, but if you jump down to the "Static IP Address Assignment" portion of this page it will help.
[11:32] <ServerSage> https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html#ip-addressing
[11:32] <chemist^> ServerSage, nop...not in there
[11:33] <fieranna> chemist^: /etc/hosts
[11:33] <chemist^> fieranna, that's the file
[11:33] <chemist^> thanks
[11:33] <ServerSage> chemist^: I think I read your question wrong.   :)
[11:33] <chemist^> ;D probably
[11:33] <ServerSage> Ok, 3:30am.  Bed time.
[11:34] <chemist^> hehe
[11:34] <chemist^> g'night
[11:34] <fieranna> ServerSage: Yea I did too, it was hard to parse. I just cheated by seeing saying no.
[11:34] <fieranna> ServerSage: *seeing him saying no
[11:34] <ServerSage> fieranna: I don't feel like a total fool then.  :)  hehe.
[11:35] <starrats> Serversage are on the W Coast of USDA?
[11:35] <starrats> USA
[11:35] <ServerSage> starrats: Yup, just south of San Francisco.
[11:35] <starrats> ah cool
[11:35] <starrats> Kent OH here
[11:36] <fieranna> ServerSage: You're doing good and useful work, don't let it get you down. First, making mistakes are unavoidable, second you didn't make a mistake.
[11:36] <ServerSage> starrats: Cool, I grew up in the UP of Michigan.
[11:37] <starrats> cool, lol Serversage have a nick on another channel way up in the UP
[11:37] <shubhamjain> Hey guys. I installed rails, and it got installed in directory /usr/bin/ruby/vendor_ruby.Not accessible through command line. I thought editing ~/.profile and adding that path would fix it but it doesn't . Each time I run, rails I get the same error, /ur/bin/rails not a file or director.
[11:37] <shubhamjain> directory*.
[11:38] <ServerSage> starrats: Neat.  :P
[11:38] <ServerSage> Ok, now I'm really off.  L8r folks.
[11:38] <starrats> okay go to bed Serversage
[11:48] <zx42o> !find lrelease
[11:48] <jirido> Mr§Hi got this problem that i tryed to uninstall nvidias drivers and install xorgs.. but now there is a api missmatch between driver component 304 and kernel module 173.. I have tried to modprobe -r nvidia-173 but it does not remove the module .. Could someone help?
[12:13] <quem> *nothing* happens when i try to md5sum /dev/sr0. what could be the reason for this?
[12:17] <max__> karaoke su xubuntu qualcuno mi puo dire qualcosa???
[12:18] <DJones> !it | max__
[12:23] <from> Hi, I noticed an issue recently. With 32-bit Ubuntu and an encrypted home directory, a VirtualBox virtual disk breaks once the size exceeds 4GB.
[12:24] <GyrosGeier> hi
[12:24] <from> I first thought it to be VirtualBox specific, but it proved impossible to create any file larger than 4GB in the encrypted home directory.
[12:24] <GyrosGeier> I'm trying to report a bug, and keep getting redirected to the wiki page about how to report a bug
[12:26] <from> GyrosGeier: Have you created a launchpad account? https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/NewAccount
[12:26] <GyrosGeier> yes
[12:26] <GyrosGeier> in fact, it was created for me before the dawn of time :)
[12:26] <GyrosGeier> I'm also logged in
[12:27] <geirha> GyrosGeier: yes, because they generally want bugs to be reported via apport.
[12:27] <GyrosGeier> ah
[12:27] <GyrosGeier> well
[12:27] <from> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect
[12:27] <geirha> GyrosGeier: If that's not possible, and you really need to report via the web interface, the wiki page does explain how, but now from copy/pasted it for you
[12:27] <GyrosGeier> it is one of these "on hardware X, I get black screen during boot" bugs
[12:28] <GyrosGeier> btw
[12:28] <from> Back to my question, 'cause everything is about me. Is the 4GB filesize limit in encrypted home directory on 32-bit Ubuntu a known limitation or something for a bug report?
[12:28] <GyrosGeier> the formatting on the wiki page is messed up, and an entire section of markdown code is shown in a <pre>
[12:34] <from> NVM, found the bug, I think. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ecryptfs/+bug/1243636
[12:34] <Rubas> Can I have multiple connections to a IRC Bouncer, on the same account? So I can chat from 2 different devices, from the same user?
[12:36] <from> :)
[12:37] <from> Rubas: No. You CAN, however, have "Rubas" and "Rubas-2" accounts. However, the IRC protocol doesn't allow multiple connections to the same in-system user.
[12:38] <from> ubottu: Thanks, I didn't find it last time I looked, probably was too new then. Seems to have been filed about the same time I lost my virtual disk.
[12:38] <from> ^_^
[12:38] <Rubas> from: ok thanks :)
[12:40] <Rubas> from: you sure about that?
[12:40] <from> Rubas: You could, of course, have a server of your own which maintains the connection to IRC, which itself allows the connection you're looking for.
[12:41] <from> Which might be what that "IRC Bouncer" you asked about is all about. ;)
[12:41] <Rubas> from: so it is possible? :)
[12:41] <from> (Never heard the term before)
[12:41] <Rubas> from: you never head about a IRC Bouncer?
[12:41] <from> It is possible, through a third piece of software which aggregates your connections.
[12:42] <from> Rubas: I haven't exactly been using IRC much since the 90s...
[12:42] <alexa> I have SpeedLink Cougar Flightstick. There is no official support for Linux (the latest driver written is for Windows Vista). Anyway, I don't want to use it as joystick, but could use it as additional keys :) I would assign some shortcuts on that keys. The only problem is that xinput doesn't recognize it :(
[12:43] <alexa> Is it possible to scan the USB device in order to check how many buttons are there and to assign them the values?
[12:43] <Rubas> from: lol :p yeah okay, but i think irc bouncers existed even then :)
[12:43] <from> alexa: Yes. Might not be easy, though.
[12:43] <from> Rubas: Back then, I mostly used it to chat. :)
[12:44] <Rubas> from: what changed since then? ;)
[12:44] <alexa> from, I know it won't be easy. I just need right support :D
[12:44] <from> Rubas: I did write my own client once, though, which is why I was certain as to the protocol.
[12:44] <Rubas> from: nice :D, but what do you use IRC for now?
[12:44] <from> Ah, to bother this channel about why encryptfs broke my VBox virtual disk.
[12:45] <Rubas> from: haha lol, but still chatting with "us" (we are all bots btw)
[12:46] <from> Goshdarnit, I failed the reverse Turing test once again.
[12:48] <from> alexa: Start with lsusb, if your device isn't even listed as "unknown device", you're basically SOoL.
[12:49] <alexa> Bus 002 Device 007: ID 12bd:a02f
[12:49] <alexa> is it good?
[12:51] <from> Check out /sys/bus/usb/devices, should have some device files which could prove useful. This will not be easy, though.
[12:53] <from> The device itself is in /dev/bus/usb/002/007
[12:53] <from> But I (perhaps erroneously) believe /sys can teach me stuff about it before I start fiddling with the device.
[12:55] <obsidian> Testing 123
[12:55] <obsidian> Anybody out there?
[12:55] <from> 321 gnitseT
[12:55] <cfhowlett> !test|obsidian,
[12:59] <GreyMist> hello, can someone tell me what is name of default graphics driver for intel and can install it on debian?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> GreyMist: intel is the driver
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> GreyMist: in Ubuntu anyway, you may want to ask in #debian
[13:00] <from> Try xserver-xorg-video-intel
[13:00] <from> There is a #intel-gfx channel here on freenode.
[13:01] <pedro865> bye
[13:01] <obsidian> Awesome! Thanks .. so I think somebody messed up one of the updates to Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr). After I installed some updates last night I booted up and logged into a blank desktp (no launcher, or menu bars). I tried to reset Unity with various commands I searched off the internet (i.e., ~$ unity --reset) BUT pretty much nothing worked. I was able to get into my System Settings page by right-clicking on the desktop and Installin
[13:01] <obsidian> g Updates again in hopes that the developers had found & fixed their problem, miraculously the did! I re-booted and my system works as normal again. I know this  is a mouthful but in case anyone has similar problems, all you need to do is install the latest updates.
[13:02] <from> 14.04 isn't released, playing around with Alpha releases lead to issues. :)
[13:02] <cfhowlett> obsidian, you're installing an alpha release.  expect the unexpected.
[13:02] <obsidian> I think I figured it out the hard way.
[13:02] <DJones> obsidian: Probably worth mentioning that in #ubuntu+1 which is the 14.04 support channel until its released
[13:03] <Ratler> Has anyone had issues installing a "Saucy" KVM guest using vmbuilder on 12.04 LTS? Debug log etc gives me pretty much nothing. It just hang after completing "base install". Installing precise using vmbuilder works fine though.
[13:03] <obsidian> DJ.. thanks, will do.
[13:04] <alexa> 1-0:1.0  1-2.1    1-2.1:1.0  1-2.2      1-2.2:1.1  1-2.2:1.3  2-1      usb1
[13:04] <alexa> 1-2      1-2:1.0  1-2.1:1.1  1-2.2:1.0  1-2.2:1.2  2-0:1.0    2-1:1.0  usb2
[13:04] <obsidian> So I take it with the "alpha releases" you're basically a guinea pig ??
[13:04] <alexa>  / sys/bus/usb/devices looks strange to me
[13:04] <cfhowlett> obsidian, "tester" is the technical term IIRC
[13:04] <alexa> means nothing to me
[13:04] <DJones> Not quite, but definately a tester
[13:04] <alexa> looking further
[13:05] <from> alexa: You will have to basically write your own driver. Unless you're prepared to do it yourself, unassisted, you should give it up. This channel is definitely the wrong place to seek assistance.
[13:05] <obsidian> cfh.. I see.
[13:05] <obsidian> DJ .. interesting
[13:05] <obsidian> Thanks a lot guys!
[13:05] <obsidian> I don't know how much help it will be but I'll repost my spiel to #Ubuntu+1
[13:06] <from> obsidian: Thanks for the effort!
[13:06] <alexa> from, I know man. But if I had had no idea of how to write my own driver, where or whom should I ask? Could you please direct me ?
[13:07] <from> alexa: Sorry, I don't know. Google around a bit. I generally do stuff the other way around, look what is supported by linux and buy that. :)
[13:07] <dougl> I have a 13.10 install that seems to hang right after the plymouth splash - where to I look to see what the problem is?
[13:08] <dougl> I dual boot 14.04 and 13,.10
[13:08] <dougl> so I have access to my 13.10 drive
[13:08] <alexa> from, I bought this as I was kid and had no idea of linux existance (before 6-8 years)
[13:08] <dougl> from my 14.04
[13:11] <GreyMist> ActionParsnip: nobody on debian response, i want another drivers for intel, not mesa, i can't install linux-graphics-installer, bumblee is slow from X response and i can't uninstall bumblebee because it's crash system after reboot
[13:11] <from> *nod* I had similar problems during my own transition to linux. Things were even worse back then, I can assure you. ;)
[13:11] <from> GreyMist: Try xserver-xorg-video-intel
[13:11] <GreyMist> from: i have got it installed
[13:11] <from> Bumblebee? You have hybrid graphics?
[13:12] <GreyMist> yes
[13:12] <GreyMist> intel and nvidia
[13:12] <from> You're basically screwed. I have a similar setup in a laptop, which I have officially labelled the worst purchase of my life.
[13:13] <Npc> why
[13:13] <GreyMist> bumblebee optirun wait for X response for 10-30 sec
[13:13] <from> I bought it thinking (foolishly enough) that I could turn nVidia off in the BIOS, which of course wasn't an option.
[13:14] <GreyMist> i don't need nvidia if intel will run normally without mesa, i need OpenGL ~4.0
[13:14] <Npc> well bumblebee can turn it off so does it matter?
[13:15] <from> Npc: One would think so, but while it CAN turn the graphics output from the card off, the card itself keeps on running, generating heat and using up battery.
[13:16] <Npc> from: hmm, mine doesn't eat much battery
[13:16] <Npc> battery life is close to what it is on windows
[13:16] <from> YMMV. Mine's an abomination in the eyes of me.
[13:17] <GreyMist> but question is how can i install latest drivers for intel (NOT mesa) on debian? :)
[13:17] <from> GreyMist: apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[13:17] <from> (Which you have said you already have)
[13:17] <from> ((So, you already have the latest))
[13:17] <GreyMist> i installed it, but programs runs with mesa and ogl 3.0...
[13:18] <from> Remove mesa and GL packages? ^_^
[13:18] <Npc> surely i was thinking of getting my next laptop with integrated graphics only but current setup is doable
[13:18] <from> GreyMist: Have you ever installed the nvidia drivers?
[13:18] <GreyMist> from: and what, i got magically opengl 4.0, what is available on this gfx?
[13:19] <GreyMist> i installed nvidia drivers wiith bumblebeee ... but is from repo
[13:19] <from> Try these commands in order.
[13:19] <from> nvidia-uninstall
[13:19] <GreyMist> and it's really sucks because optirun is starting 10 seconds...
[13:19] <from> rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:20] <from> apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-glx
[13:20] <GreyMist> jessie doesn't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:20] <from> X11?
[13:20] <GreyMist> yes
[13:20] <k1l> need sudo to rm in /etc
[13:20] <from> Need sudo for all of those.
[13:21] <GreyMist> but directory X11 hasn't got xorg.conf
[13:21] <from> xserver.conf instead.
[13:21] <from> Or just empty?
[13:22] <GreyMist> where is this file?
[13:22] <from> ls /etc/X11, what (íf any) files are there?
[13:23] <GreyMist> there are files, but not xserver
[13:23] <GreyMist> xserver.conf
[13:23] <from> Sample file nae?
[13:25] <jirido> Hi I did remove nvidias displaydrivers after advice aand now i can't login.. the grafical login manager dont accept my password. In console it works fine. I am happy for any advice
[13:26] <k1l> jirido: see .xsession-errors in the users home for errors
[13:26] <jirido> ok
[13:28] <from> Okies, that quit message (from dskw) was actually funny.
[13:29] <loa> hello
[13:29] <loa> how i can downgrade chromium and lock it?
[13:29] <loa> how i can even check out what version are in reps?
[13:29] <loa> versions *
[13:29] <from> dskw What UDP joke?
[13:31] <from> loa: Try chromium --version from the command line, generally works to check version.
[13:31] <jirido> k1l: incredably many of this one, but ill look for more :(glipper:9146): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.
[13:32] <manikanta> hello
[13:32] <loa> from, i meen version in reps
[13:32] <loa> not current installed version
[13:32] <from> To install a specific version, remove the Ubuntu package and install that version directly.
[13:32] <manikanta> is there a way I can install whatspp  in ubuntu ?
[13:32] <from> Otherwise, a newer version will override an older when you upgrade.
[13:34] <from> (I would recommend against not taking advantage of security updates, though.)
[13:35] <jirido> http://pastebin.com/35vKsPmD
[13:35] <from> Oh, swede.
[13:35] <jirido> k1l: here is some in the beginning.. if you need more to tell so say!
[13:36] <jirido> http://pastebin.com/G98k0M1B
[13:38] <ShawnRisk> When I am using my wireless connection, Ubuntu 13.10 keeps asking me for the password when it is entered correctly.  Also I saw that I connected to the wired connection 39 mins ago but I am only on wireless.  Any ideas?
[13:39] <from> jirido: Something breaks in the gnome authentication agent, try reinstalling it. (policykit-1-gnome)
[13:40] <from> jirido: Ett annat tips, installera alltid operativsystem på engelska och sätt se'n språket i interfacet till svenska, om du vill ha det.
[13:40] <jirido> from: i had nvidas 173 driver and now i have xorgs 304
[13:41] <from> ShawnRisk: Do you have a new and snazzy router and/or network card?
[13:41] <jirido> from: bra tips!
[13:41] <ShawnRisk> from: yes, I did change from DSL to Cable and the company put in a new router box.
[13:42] <from> jirido: The log seems to indicate an error with the gnome authentication, not the graphics driver. Perhaps it needs to be reconfigured (dpkg-reconfigure) for the new driver?
[13:42] <from> ShawnRisk: It's either too new (like, trying to use the 802.11ac protocol) or some cheap piece of * they like to "give" their "valued customers".
[13:43] <ShawnRisk> from:  Ubuntu can't read all 802.11 protocols?
[13:44] <from> from: I believe ac isn't out of standardisation, yet.
[13:44] <from> from? Talking to myself, I am. ShawnRisk, it was meant for.
[13:45] <from> Oh, sorry. Approved now in January. My bad.
[13:45] <pmo> Hello.. im getting this error on ubuntu 13.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-image/+bug/1245998 anyone know how to fix this?
[13:46] <ShawnRisk> from: well what do I do to fix this to not ask for password all the time?
[13:46] <from> Buy a cheap but better router.
[13:46] <from> Or rather, a cheap but compatible router.
[13:47] <ShawnRisk> from: the router works on this computer as I am connected now.
[13:47] <from> Do you know what your current router is called?
[13:47] <from> Same OS on both computers, connection works on this one, resets on the other?
[13:49] <Parsi> how can I remove this unity sidebar from ubuntu 12.04?
[13:49] <cfhowlett> !nounity|Parsi,
[13:50] <cfhowlett> Parsi, or install an alternative desktop environment such as xfce4, kde, etc ...
[13:50] <jirido> from: How do i know what package i should dpkg.. i used jockey-gtk and i think i installed the recomended ones .. and thought they were xorgs but when i look in the package list for nvidia drivers.. the only 304 (i looked for nvidia modules aand purged all 173drivers) seems like nvidia-304 and looks like the nvidia-173
[13:50] <Parsi> cfhowlett: just want to disable it, i don't want to reinstall whole system
[13:50] <One> hello
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Parsi: install gnome-panel, logoff and choose the new session in the login screen. Be sure to select lightdm when prompted
[13:50] <segundobat_> weje
[13:51] <Parsi> okay ActionParsnip
[13:51] <ShawnRisk> from: I am using one Windows and one Linux, and on Linux now.  The wireless works for all computers just on Ubuntu could ask for password at weird times.  This is a Hiltron Technologies box.
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Parsi: where in Ubott's text does it say to reinstall?
[13:51] <Guest6287> What¿¿¿
[13:51] <Parsi> and something else, yesterday it told me upgrade the system, and now Notifications are gone
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Parsi: I can't see it...
[13:51] <Directioner> I have a problem
[13:51] <segundobat_> teneis twitter hermosuras¿
[13:51] <jirido> from : they were in api missmatch with 304 driver component..?
[13:52] <Directioner> I have dierna
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Directioner: a moth?
[13:52] <segundobat_> copernico es el puto
[13:52] <jirido> ahh
[13:53] <cfhowlett> !language|segundobat_,
[13:53] <Directioner> No la polla mas larga que la pierna
[13:53] <segundobat_> eh yo hablo español porque me sale de la polla
[13:53] <pmo> and a bonus to my question... bug in GUFW http://i.imgur.com/lfr1xi7.png
[13:54] <wjtaylor> I keep losing connectivity to a usb thumbdrive in ubuntu. It no longer shows up in /dev until I remove and reinsert it. Any ideas?
[13:54] <Xx_DarKFrIKi_xX_> edd
[13:54] <Xx_DarKFrIKi_xX_> sxsxx
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[13:54] <Xx_DarKFrIKi_xX_> x
[13:54] <Xx_DarKFrIKi_xX_> x
[13:54] <ShawnRisk> spam
[13:54] <Xx_DarKFrIKi_xX_> x
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[13:55] <pmo> !ops Xx_DarKFrIKi_xX_
[13:55] <pmo> ;)
[13:55] <karl_> hi
[13:55] <ShawnRisk> what?
[13:55] <Directioner> stop it Xx_DarKFrIKi_xX
[13:55] <Directioner> Enter in the ArmyFriend's channel
[13:55] <segundobat_> spam
[13:56] <karl_> trying to upgrade xubuntu 13.04 to 13.10  terminal throws up "Your Ubuntu release is not supported anymore" when i try the upgrade button on the updater.   Any ideas?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> karl_: are you running:  sudo do-release-upgrade    to do it?
[13:57] <ShawnRisk> from: anymore ideas?
[13:57] <karl_> i will try it
[13:57] <wjtaylor> I keep losing connectivity to a usb thumbdrive in ubuntu. It no longer shows up in /dev until I remove and reinsert it. Any ideas?
[13:58] <from> Sorry, had to deal with something.
[13:58] <karl_> thats better TY
[13:59] <from> ShawnRisk: Occasional problem with Linux ONLY on same hardware as Windows?
[14:00] <karl_> Parsnip saved me mind from going mad
[14:00] <Newroot> hi guys, i wanna ask some questions about migration on linux, do anyone of you have the time and the will to answer to my questions ?
[14:00] <pmo>  im getting this error on ubuntu 13.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-image/+bug/1245998 anyone know how to fix this?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> karl_: cli usually makes things nice :)
[14:00] <ShawnRisk> from: I think that Windows has happened in the past too but just says there is an error doesn't say check for password.  Recently only Linux.
[14:00] <karl_> yes,  it is what i was hoping for
[14:01] <from> ShawnRisk: Do you know what brand/model the router is?
[14:02] <RocketPenguin> quick question. I have a Radeon HD4200 graphics card. Which Ubuntu still works with it? 12.04.2 or 12.04.3?
[14:02] <wjtaylor> Should thumbdrives show up in /dev ?
[14:02] <Rubas> Is it possible to run Java 32bit on a Ubuntu 64bit system?
[14:03] <cfhowlett> Rubas, should be
[14:03] <Rubas> dubis: it should be
[14:03] <from> wjtaylor: USB thumbdrive should generally be listed by console command "lsusb".
[14:03] <from> wjtaylor: Finding stuff in the /dev hierarchy can be tricky.
[14:04] <wjtaylor> from: when I insert the drive it is assigned /dev/sdb but then it drops the dev assignment after a few seconds.
[14:04] <Newroot> I need to ask someone some questions for Linux migration on private, pls if anyone has a few free minutes and the willing to help, please send me a private massage. Thanks in advance guys
[14:04] <wjtaylor> I then have to reinsert it.
[14:04] <from> wjtaylor: Does it work on another computer?
[14:05] <wjtaylor> I did, but I'll confirm.
[14:05] <manikanta> hello need some help ?
[14:05] <Newroot> yes, i do
[14:06] <manikanta> I need some help :)
[14:06] <manikanta> Is there a way to install whatsapp in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[14:07] <from> manikanta: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1732/can-i-run-android-apps-on-ubuntu
[14:08] <Newroot> I need to ask someone some questions for Linux migration on private, pls if anyone has a few free minutes and the willing to help, please send me a private massage. Thanks in advance guys
[14:08] <ikonia> Newroot: just ask the channel
[14:09] <from> manikanta: http://geekspecs.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/run-android-apps-on-ubuntu/
[14:09] <zx42o> !find libdb_cxx-5.1.so
[14:09] <tatoma> How I go around updating ubuntu?
[14:10] <from> tatoma: Command line or graphically?
[14:10] <tatoma> Prefer GUI
[14:10] <Newroot> Well my questions are abou whole migration + i need some real explanations, cant really ask here, it will be flooding :D
[14:11] <from> There should be some "update manager" or similar which handles updates.
[14:11] <zx42o> !find libboost_filesystem.so.1.48.0
[14:11] <manikanta> from : thanks
[14:11] <manikanta> I will try that :)
[14:11] <zx42o> !find libboost_system.so.1.48.0
[14:12] <from> Good luck! :)
[14:12] <ikonia> Newroot: use a pastebin if you need to share large data examples
[14:12] <tatoma> For some reason software updater fails to download repo info
[14:13] <medberry> anything weird going on with launchpad today? I'm having trouble seeing some old team mail-list archives
[14:13] <from> tatoma: Have you fiddled with /etc/apt?
[14:13] <from> medberry: Same issue here, sometimes. I think they're updating something, I got some message about that.
[14:13] <tatoma> No I haven't
[14:13] <medberry> from, tatoma thanks
[14:14] <no0code> hi
[14:14] <no0code> wißt ihr wie man strg+alt = altgr mappen kann?
[14:14] <from> tatoma: Use the command line (terminal) and type: "sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"
[14:14] <Newroot> i just need to talk to someone in private so i can ask all my stupid quesions :)
[14:15] <ikonia> Newroot: just ask the channel
[14:15] <from> Strg?
[14:15] <ikonia> Newroot: we are here to help you with ubuntu
[14:15] <Rubas> !german | no0code
[14:15] <med_> Newroot, no stupid questions.
[14:15] <from> no0code: But yes, you should be able to map any input to any function. Basically. But use english, please. :)
[14:16] <jirido> from: Hi i did a dpkg-reconfigure and uninstalled policykit and installed it back.. and some more programs that went same time.. But still no luck
[14:16] <tatoma> Thanks now it's working!
[14:16] <from> tatoma: NP. :)
[14:16] <med_> Newroot, (there is no such thing as a stupid question--ask any question you want)
[14:16] <med_> reason being, that way everyone learns from the question
[14:16] <med_> and you get a lot of eyeballs on the issue/concern
[14:16] <from> jirido: Hmm...second assertion failed in your log is libdbusmenu-glib.
[14:17] <tatoma> Is the ubuntu base the upgrade for system?
[14:17] <from> jirido: Soo...try dpkg-reconfigure libdbusmenu-glib1
[14:18] <jirido> from: so i do a reconfigure? do i have to restart after or should i try direct after?
[14:18] <from> tatoma: I'm sorry? That command will update your sources and fetch any security updates, not upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu.
[14:18] <from> jirido: No restart required, unless we fiddle with the kernel.
[14:19] <ericbutters> hello. how can i enable my ubuntu to use gestures for my touch display?
[14:19] <from> jirido: You might have to restart (kill it, it should auto-restart) the X server, though.
[14:19] <lattera> I just installed 13.10 server x86 in a vbox VM... I did `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade`
[14:19] <lattera> it looks like it's stuck on "Unpacking linux-headers-2.11.0-15-generic"
[14:19] <from> ericbutters: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch
[14:19] <med_> Newroot, just install the latest iso
[14:19] <lattera> I'm guessing doing a ^C during an apt-get upgrade probably isn't the wisest idea, right?
[14:19] <lattera> and nvm
[14:19] <med_> or the LTS (12.04)
[14:20] <med_> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[14:20] <from> lattera: Not a good idea, might break stuff, but generally just try doing the upgrade again, it might fix stuff.
[14:20] <med_> Newroot, depending on your hardware, you made need the graphics drivers (nVidia, etc) for your Acer.
[14:21] <med_> That will allow better performance in graphics intensive applications (*GAMES*)
[14:21] <med_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[14:21] <Newroot> 10q
[14:21] <ericbutters> from: what about scrolling with finger? is this also a touch gesture? or is it performed/working with mtdev?
[14:22] <Newroot> i am able to install the video driver, but thats all, no other driver
[14:22] <Newroot> may be i have to search for them on every single hardware manufacture
[14:22] <med_> Newroot, not sure what other drivers you would need
[14:23] <from> ericbutters: That's generally a 2-finger gesture, this was linked to on the matter from the last link I posted: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/TouchpadSupport
[14:23] <DooMFeaR> Can anyone help me with a problem on Ubuntu?
[14:23] <chongwis`> exit
[14:23] <med_> DooMFeaR, just ask the question
[14:23] <from> DooMFeaR: Possibly SOMEone can, ask away and see what comes back.
[14:23] <med_> or state the problem
[14:24] <med_> +1 from
[14:24] <DooMFeaR> Im running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64-bit on my Dell Inspiron 3521 laptop
[14:24] <jirido> from : Paketet "libdbusmenu-glib1" är inte installerat och ingen information finns.
[14:24] <DooMFeaR> The problem is, the cooling fan always run
[14:24] <DooMFeaR> at full speed
[14:25] <from> jirido: Try 4 instead of 1?
[14:25] <jirido> ok
[14:25] <DooMFeaR> My configuration is: Intel Core i5, 4 GB of RAM Memory, Ati radeon HD 8730M - 2GB Dedicated memory
[14:26] <from> DooMFeaR: Is the computer warmer-than-you to touch?
[14:26] <DooMFeaR> no...
[14:26] <from> (Anywhere, not just keyboard)
[14:27] <jirido> from: Is killall Xorg right command?
[14:27] <ShawnRisk> from: will get in touch with ISP and see if they can figure this out.
[14:27] <from> jirido: Or just X, either should kill stuff. I like being more specific (process ID) but that's a bit harder.
[14:27] <from> ShawnRisk: They will blame Linux, since it works in Windows. :P
[14:28] <ShawnRisk> from: hahahaha
[14:28] <ShawnRisk> I am out
[14:28] <from> ShawnRisk: Try moving the badly-functioning computer.
[14:28] <ShawnRisk> okay, but I have to go
[14:28] <ShawnRisk> will try later
[14:28] <from> Good luck!
[14:29] <ShawnRisk> thanks
[14:30] <jirido> from: i did a killall Xorg and tried to login.. Still no luck
[14:31] <jirido> I mean after a reconfigure
[14:31] <from> jirido: Did the monitor "flash" and "force" you from console to X?
[14:31] <jirido> yes
[14:31] <from> *sigh*
[14:32] <leeyaa> hello
[14:32] <jirido> same!
[14:32] <leeyaa> if i want to change a hostname for ubuntu do i need to change anything else except /etc/hostname ?
[14:32] <from> jirido: Check ~jirido/.xsession-errors again, and pastebin it.
[14:32] <from> leeyaa: Change it on that computer, or for people who want to connect to it?
[14:32] <jirido> from: it was 65000 rows
[14:32] <leeyaa> from: everything
[14:32] <from> (I.e., domain name)
[14:33] <leeyaa> connecting from and locally
[14:33] <jirido> But i can copy paste with screen
[14:33] <from> leeyaa: Domain name (myserver.net) has to be changed with the provider/DNS, but locally hostname should suffice.
[14:34] <from> jirido: 65000 rows of xsession errors? I'm impressed.
[14:34] <leeyaa> from: it seems you dont understand my question ;p
[14:34] <leeyaa> for example on centos when i need to change a domain name i have to edit /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/hosts
[14:35] <leeyaa> whats the procedure for ubuntu ?
[14:35] <Pici> !hostname | leeyaa
[14:35] <Pici> :)
[14:35] <leeyaa> Pici: what about /etc/hostname ?
[14:35] <ikonia> it says in the bots description
[14:36] <Pici> ubottu: change /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname , like ubottu said.
[14:36] <Pici> er
[14:36] <Pici>  leeyaa ^
[14:36] <leeyaa> oh right
[14:36] <leeyaa> thanks
[14:36] <leeyaa> so nothing else ?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> leeyaa: change both files then save the changes with both files open (saves issues)
[14:37] <from> leeyaa: Check the hostname manpage.
[14:42] <from> Ah well, gotta go, hope I was to some help for someone. Toodles!
[14:54] <jinzo> Hello, I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 Precise and I want to downgrade xserver-xorg-lts-raring back to xserver-xorg-lts-precise
[14:54] <jinzo> What would be the easiest way of doing so?
[14:55] <jirido> from:  lol it was 650000 rows
[14:55] <jirido> http://pastebin.com/c89ML4aT
[14:56] <medo> Hi there, I have a few questions. Why exactly is it not possible to have Ubuntu Desktop on an ARM based phone?
[14:58] <jinzo> medo, I'm no Ubuntu expert but there're several reasons probably: From that not all packages compile on ARM, that the unity probably utilises openGL that is not supported by the graphic drivers in ARM SoC-es (OpenGLES is used there)
[14:58] <jinzo> and so forth
[14:59] <medo> And there isn't any sort of alternative to OpenGL?
[15:00] <medo> I guess the same question would apply to Windows RT. I understand the source code isn't available to the public,
[15:00] <medo> but i find it hard to believe i am the only person in the world that would love to see a fully functional UMPC.
[15:01] <witheld1> medo, jinzo is wrong
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> jinzo: I wouldnt use Unity on ARM personally
[15:01] <medo> especially with phones seemingly getting bigger. I could see a Galaxy Note utilizing that very well, and even the HTC one.
[15:01] <witheld1> and you could have Ubuntu on your phone, the packages are technically there, but drivers are a problem
[15:01] <jinzo> ActionParsnip, I was listing technical reasons that came to mind
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> jinzo: makes sense. I'd run openbox or fluxbox to keep the desktop light
[15:02] <witheld1> However Wayland and Mir have an android driver backend so you can probably hack something up with enough time and effort
[15:02] <witheld1> But you're definitely not gonna run X on 90% of devices
[15:02] <witheld1> The drivers just don't exist
[15:03] <medo> @witheld1 so I'm assuming it's just due to not having the patience to compile?
[15:03] <witheld1> For the most part the compiling is done
[15:04] <witheld1> Ubuntu has ARM packages for basically everything
[15:04] <jinzo> There's also the problem with ASM code
[15:04] <jinzo> and optimization
[15:04] <witheld1> jinzo: that's less then 1% of packages
[15:04] <jinzo> and whatnot when it comes to compiling software written with x86 in mind for ARM
[15:04] <witheld1> The Rabian guys figured that out
[15:04] <witheld1> Rasbian*
[15:05] <witheld1> basically everything will work if you can actually manage to get it on there
[15:05] <jinzo> yes? What do I know - there're constant breakages and problems with compiling stuff like python, firefox, chromium when I'm trying it
[15:05] <medo> So what are the key things holding it back?
[15:05] <skulltip> quick question, i'm creating a QT gui application. Is it still customary to create a menu bar for my app? I remember in earlier ubuntu when they chagned the desktop to look like a mobile app with the menu bar of every application at the top instead of on the 'child' application.
[15:05] <witheld1> Other then graphics and probably kernels, you'll have to do that yourself
[15:05] <witheld1> jinzo: well, for one, I own a MIPS laptop, and an ARM Rasberry Pi
[15:05] <witheld1> and everything works
[15:06] <jinzo> that doesen't mean it was easy to get it working :)
[15:06] <witheld1> but
[15:06] <witheld1> it's already working, other then kernels and graphics
[15:06] <witheld1> of course, those are also the hardest to get working
[15:06] <witheld1> so good luck
[15:06] <denisw> hi
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> witheld1: it'll get better, its how it goes :)
[15:07] <witheld1> perhaps
[15:07] <witheld1> especially on nvidia devices now
[15:07] <medo> So where abouts would i go to support a project like this? I can't seem to find much.
[15:07] <witheld1> Since they're now contributing to the kernel for ARM devices
[15:07] <witheld1> medo: you build it yourself
[15:07] <witheld1> The project that is
[15:07] <witheld1> you take your phone, you find out what needs to be done
[15:07] <hoodedice> Xubuntu fails to boot
[15:07] <witheld1> then you do those things
[15:08] <lattera> when trying to link with libcheck, I get these errors: http://pastebin.com/c3EWPiJx
[15:08] <lattera> anyone know why that would happen?
[15:08] <denisw> any idea when the next vUDS is being held? If it is every 3 months as announced a year ago, there must be one this month (last was in November), but I cannot find any announcement to that effect
[15:08] <medo> I understand, thank you for all who had input on my question. I appreciate it.
[15:08] <witheld1> there's no real interest in right now, since phones are only just getting powerful enough for that kind of thing
[15:08] <hoodedice> Tried fixing it, but to no avail. Problem was guessed as being due to light dm, but even after reinstalling, It still doesn't boot
[15:09] <induz> is there an application like crossloop in ubuntu to remote connect a machine
[15:09] <hoodedice> Also, I tried installing ia32-libs and ia32-libs-multiarch
[15:10] <induz> based on open gpl
[15:10] <induz> means free
[15:10] <denisw> hoodiedice: are you using trusty? i am asking because a lightdm-doesn
[15:10] <induz> not a paid application
[15:10] <Pici> induz: if you could explain what "crossloop" is, maybe we can provide an alternative.
[15:10] <kamal__> hi
[15:11] <denisw> hoodedice: a light-dm-doesn't-start problem was just fixed today in trusty
[15:11] <induz> crossloop is to remote access a machine
[15:11] <hoodedice> Mine is Quantal
[15:11] <denisw> oh ok
[15:11] <induz> Pici, for emote access
[15:11] <Pici> induz: like VNC?
[15:12] <induz> yes
[15:12] <hoodedice> But is it possible to get that pack for quantal?
[15:12] <denisw> hoodedice: I think it was a trusty-specific problem
[15:12] <induz> Pici, yes like tiht vnc but simple
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> wwww
[15:14] <hoodedice> The one thing that's dissing me at the moment is the ia32-libs  package being discontinued
[15:14] <denisw> hoodedice: please note that quantal will be end-of-life'd in April, so you might want to simply upgrade to fix the problem
[15:15] <induz> Pici, yes like vnc but simple for others
[15:15] <hoodedice> upgrade to?
[15:15] <skulltip> wow, ia32-libs? how will alot of the other items surive out there, like Freebasic?
[15:16] <denisw> hoodedice: 13.10, or if you are adventorous, 14.04 development (which I am running since weeks without problems)
[15:16] <induz> is there another appliction like VNC, simple and easy
[15:16] <hoodedice> Wait. Is Quantal not 13.10
[15:17] <hoodedice> *facepalm*
[15:17] <hoodedice> "Saucy"
[15:17] <denisw> hoodedice: oh, ok, you are running 13.10, ok xD
[15:17] <obsidian_> Quick question: when 14.04 LTS is released and I go through the UPGRADE process will everything in my /home directory get wiped? I've read some stuff out there about mounting /home on a separate partition but is this necessary or recommended?
[15:18] <hoodedice> I don't think so obsidian_ , but I would recommend it
[15:18] <denisw> skulltip hoodedice: AFAIK ia32-libs was discontinued because you can now simply install the 32-bit libraries along the 64-bit ones
[15:19] <hoodedice> Yeah, but some apps have problems with that
[15:19] <hoodedice> Python for example - Installing 32 bit lib for it kills the software center
[15:20] <hoodedice> Reinstalling the software center kills python
[15:20] <hoodedice> They absolutely LOVE each other
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> obsidian_: no, but you should have a backup if your data is important. A separate /home partition does not mean you don't need a bacup solution
[15:21] <denisw> hoodedice: i guess this because the packages are fighting for the "python" in PATH
[15:21] <obsidian_> Gotcha ..
[15:21] <sabin> Is there any power management software for ubuntu with GUI?
[15:21] <hoodedice> Sabin, no. Jupiter died
[15:22] <obsidian_> Thanks hoodedice, ActionParsnip
[15:22] <induz> looking for a open source VNC like client/server application for windows an ubuntu[cross platform]
[15:22] <zerowaitstate> induz, you mean, like VNC?
[15:23] <hoodedice> In any case, is there any 'restore' thingy in the ubuntu  recovery root prompt?
[15:23] <sabin> is there any way to increase battery backup of my laptop?
[15:23] <hoodedice> Sabin, I think there is a package called tlp
[15:24] <sabin> hoodedice, I will try it.
[15:24] <hoodedice> It's cli, but it's great and worked wonders for my laptop
[15:24] <induz> zerowaitstate, yes
[15:24] <denisw> induz: How about TeamViewer? https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
[15:24] <denisw> induz: it is not OSS, but free for non-commercial uses
[15:26] <sabin> hoodedice, will fglrx drivers help in improving battery life?
[15:26] <denisw> sabin, probably
[15:26] <hoodedice> I dont know - I have an Intel GMA, and the official drivers reduced the overheating problem
[15:27] <Codex_> i bought a new win8 laptop, and ubuntu pendrive usb sticks wont boot...  :(
[15:27] <sabin> but fglrx distorts my splash screen.
[15:27] <daniele_> Hi guys , I have need to enable this rule ; iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE
[15:27] <daniele_> iptables -A FORWARD -i tap0 -j ACCEPT  in ip table and make the rule permanent on startup. Can enyone help me?
[15:28] <sabin> and I think it reduces stability.
[15:28] <denisw> sabin, you'll have to judge what is more important ;)
[15:28] <induz> denisw, any other like teamviewer
[15:28] <induz> denisw, i want to connect from ubuntu to win7 pc
[15:28] <hoodedice> Codex_ Did you do all the 'obvious' steps?
[15:29] <Codex_> hoodedice: yes. bios settings have been checked several times, I
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> induz  try rdesktop
[15:29] <hoodedice> Bios boot order, disabling fastboot, secure boot?
[15:30] <Codex_> 've installed the iso to usb stick several times, boot order ok, fastboot is disabled (though this one keeps getting enabled automatically sometimes), secure boot is disabled
[15:30] <Codex_> legacy boot didn
[15:31] <Codex_> t work
[15:31] <Codex_> (damn this keyboard)
[15:33] <Codex_> its like it never saw the usb drive (the light on the usb stick does blink while booting, but doesnt boot)
[15:33] <hoodedice> You don't need to put it into legacy boot
[15:34] <hoodedice> People, xubuntu won't boot and the following processes fail
[15:34] <koell> when i close the lid of my laptop, it is going to lock the screen. will this also cut the wlan or any background tasks?
[15:35] <hoodedice> Reload cups, upon starting avahi-daemon to make sure remote US queues are populated
[15:35] <hoodedice> Starting LightDM Display Manager
[15:36] <hoodedice> Send an event to indicate Plymouth is up
[15:38] <hoodedice> Any way to skip back to 13.04 from 13.10 without losing any package?
[15:38] <Evclidis> Greetings..
[15:39] <DJones> hoodedice: Nope, only by reinstall
[15:39] <Evclidis> I've got a problem: NO_PUBKEY 759590229835EB61
[15:39] <Evclidis> How can i get it?
[15:40] <Xuisce1> hm
[15:41] <TomyWork> hoodedice why would you do that? 13.04 is EOL
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> hoodedice  and 13.04 is no longer supported
[15:42] <TomyWork> (genuine interest since i'll decide between 13.10 and 14.04 prerelease soon
[15:42] <TomyWork> )
[15:43] <Evclidis> Guys, how can I fix my problem? NO_PUBKEY 759590229835EB61
[15:43] <ikonia> Evclidis: that means nothing
[15:43] <ikonia> Evclidis: try to explain the actual problem in what you are doing
[15:43] <xforking> TomyWork, speaking of the pre-release ... it is said a fresh upgrade is best when moving from one version to the next, but what about between Alphas och regular releases? If i get kubuntu 14.04 now - will the final update be solid or do i need to make a fresh install again?
[15:44] <c4iff> Evclidis: would imagine you have no public key made for whatever you're trying to do
[15:44] <TomyWork> xforking i have no idea, why are you asking me? :)
[15:44] <Evclidis> ikonia: Just have installed a new ppa, from LightDM greeter and I got this error.
[15:44] <ikonia> Evclidis: so you've not got the key from the PPA
[15:45] <Evclidis> ikonia: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 759590229835EB61
[15:45] <ikonia> Evclidis: so there you go, the public key is not available.
[15:45] <ikonia> Evclidis: contact the PPA owner to make the public key available.
[15:45] <xforking> TomyWork, just dropping in and i saw you mentioning prelease and it triggered a random thought lol
[15:45] <TomyWork> on kubuntu 13.04 raring, does "/etc/network/if-down.d/*" run when i unplug my cable? i want to umount a few network shares in hopes of not freezing up my machine when i later access them :)
[15:46] <Evclidis> ikonia: Can I just bring it with a command? I already saw it, but, I do not know where..
[15:47] <ikonia> Evclidis: you need to find it to either import it, or make it availble in the PPA
[15:48] <hoodedice> 13.04 still has the packages I need. Plus, it was better than 13.10
[15:48] <hoodedice> I think I'll go back to LTS. Is 14.04 LTS?
[15:48] <compdoc> it will be
[15:48] <TomyWork> 14.04 is unreleased
[15:48] <compdoc> supposed to be
[15:48] <hoodedice> Hmm. Thanks
[15:49] <TomyWork> hoodedice which packages?
[15:49] <Evclidis> ikonia: https://launchpad.net/~lightdm-gtk-greeter-team/+archive/daily/+build/5450388
[15:49] <TomyWork> maybe equivs helps?
[15:49] <ikonia> Evclidis: where is the key in there ?
[15:50] <Evclidis> ikonia: I do not know..
[15:50] <ikonia> Evclidis: right, so "contact the PPA provider to make the key public"
[15:51] <d8bhatta> Hey guys , I have just installed openoffice ..but i dont see any  submenus related with openoffice under Application
[15:52] <c4iff> d8bhatta: can you launch it via console?
[15:52] <induz> like VNC and teamviewer rdesktop what is more simple and GUI applicastion for remote access to a machine in my home from my work macine
[15:53] <garylabronz> i want my login (lightdm) to not sure usernames, and just have a prompt in the middle asking for username, then password
[15:53] <garylabronz> is there any nice tutorials, or webpages that show
[15:53] <d8bhatta> c4iff: how can i launch it vie console..any command?
[15:53] <garylabronz> im playing aroudn with the webkitgreeter
[15:53] <compdoc> xrdp has replaced vnc4server on most of my servers
[15:53] <c4iff> d8bhatta: did you install libre office I'm assuming?
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> induz  how "simple" do you want it to be?
[15:54] <d8bhatta>  c4iff: It was first installed..later i uninstalled it before installing openoffice
[15:54] <Segfault_> garylabronz: Try adding this to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf: greeter-hide-users=true
[15:55] <c4iff> d8bhatta: libreoffice & from the command line will work if your running that, I can't recollect exactly what open office is
[15:55] <induz> MonkeyDust, for the other/my younger bro it has to be simple
[15:55] <d8bhatta> c4iff: cool..let me find it
[15:55] <garylabronz> Segfault_: thanks
[15:55] <c4iff> d8bhatta: try and open a a console and tab complete it, or run locate 'open office' or some other search string
[15:56] <Segfault_> garylabronz: Take a look at /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf. Should document most of the options
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> induz  ho you tried anywthing that's been suggested here?
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> typos*
[15:57] <TomyWork> on kubuntu 13.04 raring, does "/etc/network/if-down.d/*" run when i unplug my cable? i want to umount a few network shares in hopes of not freezing up my machine when i later access them :)
[15:59] <induz> MonkeyDust, yes teamviewer and tight vnc
[16:00] <induz> rdesktop is complex
[16:00] <induz> there is chrome desktop too MonkeyDust
[16:02] <garylabronz> man i gotta use ubuntu for work, im soo used to gentoo/arch. just know where everything is and how to config everything. ubuntu is crazy
[16:02] <garylabronz> i dont want to install ubuntu-tweet
[16:02] <garylabronz> tweak
[16:03] <lucido> HI, I cant upgrade to 13.10, it complains about not being able to fetch chromium. I dont have any packages named chromium or chrome
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> garylabronz  like you said "getting used to" is the key
[16:03] <garylabronz> MonkeyDust: lol i know, just complaining as it was forced.. and i couldnt even do a minimal install
[16:03] <TJ-> TomyWork: If you can disconnect from software first, you could use 'down' scripts which'll prevent any possible delays due to the network having disappeared
[16:04] <ikonia> garylabronz: remove what you don't want
[16:04] <garylabronz> ikonia: lol i have been, its a slow process
[16:04] <TJ-> garylabronz: Slip gentoo into a chroot :)
[16:04] <garylabronz> TJ-: haha i am tempted, but nah just complaining
[16:04] <ikonia> garylabronz: shouldn't take long, little bit of disk access,
[16:05] <garylabronz> devs have gotta use ubuntu as well
[16:05] <ui_> lucido: post your /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:05] <garylabronz> they have no idea about linux, so would be nice to get ubuntu under control so i cna help set up their enviroment better
[16:05] <TJ-> garylabronz: I know the feeling; had the same going the other way to RedHat/CentOS/SUSE last year for while.
[16:05] <ui_> !paste
[16:05] <garylabronz> TJ-: redhad/centos is the beans knees!
[16:05] <garylabronz> bee knees!
[16:05] <garylabronz> thats what i run on the clusters here
[16:06] <Aneiron> when getting something from the repositories, will -f ensure that all dependencies are installed as well?
[16:06] <garylabronz> its just all the abstraction with ubuntu
[16:06] <TJ-> garylabronz: Gotta tell you - compared to the Ubuntu archives and apt-get, I found the archives for CentOS terrible to work with, never knowing whether to trust software sources
[16:07] <garylabronz> TJ-: yeah they are wayyy behind. and ahh well you dont use centos like you would ubuntu. where ive jsut started they previously had troble as they just used some random repo to get latest python. which fucked a bunch of shit
[16:07] <TJ-> Aneiron: Dependencies are installed by apt-get unless you really want to break it!
[16:07] <garylabronz> my old job, i had that shit locked down
[16:07] <lucido> ui_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6879838/    I didn't think that's relevant since 3rd party sources are disabled on upgrade
[16:08] <garylabronz> complile latest stuff that i needed on build machines, and run our own repo
[16:08] <ericbutters> hello. is it possible to have one-finger scrolling instead of selecting like with mouse? i have a touch screen and want to be able to scroll i.e in  webbrowser with one finger.
[16:08] <garylabronz> but centos/redhad you want rock solid. i very rarely wnat latest anything
[16:08] <ikonia> garylabronz: can you please tone down the langauge
[16:08] <ikonia> there is no need for swearing
[16:08] <TJ-> garylabronz: You'll find dpkg/apt-get a joy, and PPAs (Personal Package Archives) for some bleeding-edge stuff
[16:08] <ikonia> TJ-: garylabronz may want to move the distro discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic as this channel is for support
[16:08] <lucido> ui_, Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.mirrors.crysys.hu/pool/universe/c/chromium-browser/chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra_32.0.1700.102-0ubuntu0.13.10.1~20140128.970.1_amd64.deb 404  Not Found
[16:08] <TomyWork> on ubuntu 13.04 raring, how do i run a script whenever the network cable is unplugged?
[16:08] <garylabronz> sorry for the swear words
[16:09] <Mongo44> anyone know a command to get to console?
[16:09] <garylabronz> search terminal
[16:09] <garylabronz> or crtl+alt+fN
[16:09] <Mongo44> I can't use the shortcut.
[16:10] <TJ-> TomyWork: If you can disconnect from software first, you could use 'down' scripts which'll prevent any possible delays due to the network having disappeared. "down" and "post-down" scripts in "/etc/network/..." will run when the interface disappears, I believe
[16:10] <garylabronz> Mongo44: unsure of shortcut? i use i3wm and can press windowskey+enter to pull up xterm
[16:10] <ui_> lucido: change mirror?
[16:10] <g0bl1n> this works on a cron job  $(date  -d "-2 days") but this doesn't  $(date "+%C%y%m%d" -d "-2 days"). Any hint ?
[16:10] <lucido> ui_, I did
[16:10] <ui_> lucido: archive.ubuntu.com
[16:10] <Mongo44> Trying to get to console in the VM. When I use the keyboard shortcut my host OS goes into console.
[16:10] <g0bl1n> 01 23 * * * /tmp/script.sh `date "+%C%y%m%d" -d "-2 days"`
[16:10] <Xuisce1> hi all
[16:11] <ikonia> Mongo44: what is your distribution ?
[16:11] <Xuisce1> stand by me - prince royce
[16:11] <ikonia> Xuisce1: nothing to do with this channel
[16:11] <Xuisce1> oh sorry ikonia
[16:12] <Xuisce1> I think my Xchat script went off
[16:12] <ikonia> no problem
[16:12] <Mongo44> It is Lubuntu 13.10.
[16:13] <Blueink> !ops | Did kim kardashian spread her pussy for kayne west?
[16:14] <axsuul> in df -h,  on my dedicated server, it shows I have 96 GB on /dev/md2 mounted on /home, and 20 GB on rootfs mounted to /, is there any way I can transfer that 96GB to rootfs?
[16:14] <ikonia> axsuul: no, you've made static raid devices
[16:15] <ikonia> axsuul: you'd need to recreate them
[16:17] <fieranna> Mongo44: Look at the docs for the hypervisor (Which one is it?), there's a way of sending those signals to the guest VM
[16:17] <Mongo44> I am using VBox.
[16:18] <fieranna> Mongo44: look in preferences for VBOx, under I think "inputs"
[16:19] <fieranna> Mongo44: You're looking in there for something to do with capturing the keyboard
[16:20] <TomyWork> TJ- i dont. i merely undock, actually. i already tried those folders you listed, too
[16:21] <Mongo44> It just says the host key is right Cntrl.
[16:21] <Mongo44> I capture the keyboard and it still registers in the host OS.
[16:22] <Mongo44> Is there no way of getting to console with a command?
[16:23] <fieranna> Mongo44: whcih keypress is it?
[16:23] <fieranna> Mongo44: ctrl+shift+F1-F7?
[16:23] <TJ-> TomyWork: Are you using Network Manager? If so, it fires the script "/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01ifupdown" which links to those "/etc/network/*" directories  but the script only uses the "post-down" event
[16:23] <Mongo44> Cntrl+Alt+F1
[16:24] <fieranna> Mongo44: I am not sure it is possible to capture those, you'd need to check the docs for VBox
[16:24] <TJ-> Mongo44: If the host OS is intercepting the expected key-presses, then you'll need to look at the hypervisor for ways to send those key-combinations to the guest
[16:24] <ui_> Mongo44: host key + F1
[16:25] <Mongo44> ui_ You are correct thank you much.
[16:25] <purvesh> neel, hi
[16:25] <fieranna> Mongo44: host+F1 is correct, it's section 1.8.3 in the VBox manual
[16:26] <Guest16534> purvesh, hi
[16:30] <pip_> can I make a mount point which has the same name as the hard drive label I want to mount there?
[16:30] <whiskers75> yes
[16:30] <pip_> aha  - now I think I'm getting somewhere :)
[16:30] <TomyWork> TJ- i just tried post-down
[16:31] <pip_> & then to automount I add the uuid & mount point to fstab?
[16:32] <TomyWork> it's still not called
[16:32] <TJ-> TomyWork: It is executable?
[16:36] <Kdworak84> Hello
[16:36] <GyrosGeier> hi
[16:37] <Kdworak84> Can anyone help me with my problem.  After installing ubuntu I cant start my laptop
[16:37] <GyrosGeier> is there a way to clone launchpad bugs?
[16:37] <GyrosGeier> I have a bug that probably affects multiple packages
[16:38] <Kdworak84> after putting ubuntu to sleep I my laptop powers on and sits with the lights blinkning and the screen off
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> Kdworak84  what version and what happens when you try?
[16:38] <Kdworak84> let me check, its the latest one, i donwloaded it last night
[16:39] <Kdworak84> 12.1
[16:39] <Kdworak84> 13.1 sorry
[16:40] <fieranna> 13.10; it's the year and month of the release
[16:40] <Kdworak84> cool, good to know
[16:40] <Kdworak84> i was loving it till i closed the laptop lid
[16:40] <TomyWork> TJ- i tried it for longer than 5s now
[16:40] <Kdworak84> now i have nothing
[16:40] <TomyWork> it triggers after 5s of being disconnected :)
[16:41] <Kdworak84> anyone have a clue?
[16:43] <GyrosGeier> normally, opening the lid should wake it up
[16:43] <GyrosGeier> if not, try pressing a key, or the power button
[16:43] <Kdworak84> lol, ya its open
[16:43] <Kdworak84> oh yeah ive been pressing
[16:43] <halfburnttoast_> have you tried pressing CTRL + ALT + F1?
[16:43] <halfburnttoast_> to see if X crashed or something?
[16:43] <Kdworak84> no
[16:43] <jc_> salut
[16:43] <Kdworak84> im totally noob
[16:44] <Kdworak84> i will try that...
[16:44] <halfburnttoast_> you should see a login prompt
[16:44] <ikonia> window 12
[16:44] <ikonia> oops
[16:45] <Kdworak84> nothing
[16:45] <Kdworak84> just blinking lights
[16:45] <halfburnttoast_> press capslock
[16:45] <halfburnttoast_> does the light come on for that?
[16:45] <Kdworak84> thats one of the blinking lights
[16:45] <halfburnttoast_> the kernel crashed
[16:46] <TomyWork> tj
[16:46] <halfburnttoast_> you'll need to hard restart the machine
[16:46] <TomyWork> oops
[16:46] <Kdworak84> i had win7 on the machine
[16:46] <Kdworak84> does that change anything?
[16:46] <Kdworak84> dual boot
[16:46] <halfburnttoast_> probably not
[16:46] <Kdworak84> how do you hard restart???
[16:47] <halfburnttoast_> if you were booted into linux and the caplock key is unresponsive or blinking, the linux kernel crashed
[16:47] <TomyWork> TJ- /etc/network/if-post-down.d/something_executable works nicely. it's invoked 5s after disconnecting, which seems to be good enough
[16:47] <halfburnttoast_> hold the power button till it turns off
[16:47] <Kdworak84> k
[16:47] <TomyWork> after solving this annoying problem, i'm going home :)
[16:48] <Kdworak84> halfburnt thats a hard restart?  ive done that multiple times
[16:48] <halfburnttoast_> well, when the capslock key is blinking, all you can do is force it to turn off
[16:49] <halfburnttoast_> it should then go back into post and give you the grub menu
[16:49] <Kdworak84> lol yeah i wish
[16:49] <halfburnttoast_> when you turn it on again
[16:49] <halfburnttoast_> wait, it doesn't post?
[16:49] <Kdworak84> i mean i have everything backed up but...
[16:49] <halfburnttoast_> does it show you anything when it turns on?
[16:49] <halfburnttoast_> vender logos or anything?
[16:50] <halfburnttoast_> can you get into bios?
[16:50] <Kdworak84> when it turns on it is blank/off screen, and blinking caps lock light and nunberpad light
[16:50] <Kdworak84> FML
[16:50] <fieranna> Whee, sounds like UEFI
[16:50] <halfburnttoast_> but you cant get into bios or uefi if you have it?
[16:51] <Kdworak84> .....bro the screen is off
[16:51] <Kdworak84> its a duck
[16:51] <halfburnttoast_> right, but when you turn it on and try to get into bios or uefi, does it let you?
[16:51] <Pici> blinking caps/num/scroll lights typically indicates a kernel panic
[16:51] <Kdworak84> havent tried that
[16:51] <Kdworak84> pici
[16:51] <obsidian> Pici is right
[16:52] <Kdworak84> thats my problem, what do i do
[16:52] <Kdworak84> lol
[16:52] <halfburnttoast_> well, linux did panic, but if you cant' get into bios or uefi, then you have bigger problems
[16:52] <fieranna> I'm getting coflicting signals. If it's not booting and won't POST, it can't be kernel
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> or bad ram
[16:53] <halfburnttoast_> that's true
[16:53] <halfburnttoast_> I wonder if the uefi secure boot thing could cause it to panic
[16:54] <Kdworak84> any ideas on what my next step should be guys?
[16:54] <halfburnttoast_> but if you can't get into bios or uefi, then it's more likely a corrupted firmware, bad ram, or hardware falure
[16:54] <fieranna> I have seen UEFI machines do this. You would epect an error msg if it's planned but apparently no-one told the firmware developer :-)
[16:55] <halfburnttoast_> restart your computer and spam the hell out of F1, F2 and delete
[16:55] <Kdworak84> k
[16:55] <halfburnttoast_> it should take you to either bios or UEFI
[16:55] <halfburnttoast_> or at the very least show you something
[16:55] <obsidian> Kdworak84, do you know whether your Secure Boot/Fast Boot settings are ENABLED or DISABLED?
[16:56] <Kdworak84> do not know
[16:56] <obsidian> Kdworak84 - do you know how to access your BIOS/UEFI?
[16:57] <Kdworak84> yeah its esc
[16:57] <Mongo44> When I ls /etc/x11 it says that it doesn't exist.
[16:58] <xeonid> hey guys , anyone know that Nvidia Optimus is supported on Ubuntu 13.10 , a read only about bumblebee but it's not give satisfacted me
[16:58] <obsidian> Kdworak84, you're gonna need to grab a piece of paper and pencil, restart your computer, and jot down some settings in your UEFI - make sure your Fastboot & Secure Boot options are DISABLED
[16:58] <fieranna> if it shipped with uefi and win8 installed, you probabvy; enter the bios from the windows bootloader (like grub) and there's no physical key you press for bios
[16:59] <Mongo44> Yet I can clearly see it when I ls /etc.
[16:59] <obsidian> What version of Linux are you trying to boot?
[16:59] <ui_> Mongo44: it's /etc/X11
[16:59] <ui_> upper case
[17:00] <Kdworak84> obsidian - ubuntu 13.10, and btw, i cant see anything screen does not turn on
[17:00] <Mongo44> Oh alright, you got it again!
[17:00] <Kdworak84> no its a win7
[17:00] <halfburnttoast_> caps lock flashing again?
[17:01] <obsidian> Kdw, so you're booting into a Blank Screen? Or are you still getting the blinking capslock?
[17:01] <Kdworak84> caps lock and num lock, dead screen
[17:01] <Kdworak84> im booting into a blank screen and blinking lights
[17:01] <Kdworak84> and this is after simply closing the laptop down, which in win7 is sleep....
[17:02] <Kdworak84> but i was in ubuntu at the time
[17:02] <halfburnttoast_> were you able to get into uefi earlier?
[17:02] <Kdworak84> yes
[17:03] <Kdworak84> i changed the boot order to boot from hdd
[17:03] <Kdworak84> usb hdd
[17:03] <halfburnttoast_> did you disable secure boot if it was enabled?
[17:03] <Kdworak84> i didnt touch anything else...
[17:04] <halfburnttoast_> i'd go back in and make sure it's off
[17:04] <obsidian> Kdw .. you gotta give us some info
[17:04] <obsidian> about your UEFI
[17:04] <fieranna> i am still not even sure if he can enter bios or not; or if the machine is not powering on correctly
[17:05] <obsidian> Restart, press Esc or F2 or whatever it takes to access your UEFI interface and tell us whether Secure Boot is ON/OFF and which mode is selected (i.e., CSM Mode, or UEFI OS)
[17:05] <halfburnttoast_> well, I dunno if UEFI is programmed to flash capslock like linux if it dies
[17:05] <halfburnttoast_> but if he can get into it, I'd say that it is booting to linux and it's immediately panicing
[17:05] <fieranna> meanwhile the viking calendar says it's ragnarok on 22 feb so i'm updating thunarr just in case :)
[17:05] <Kdworak84> guys i been restarting and pressing almost every button combo
[17:05] <Kdworak84> nothing
[17:06] <obsidian> Kdw, so what you're saying is you CAN'T access your UEFI ?
[17:06] <halfburnttoast_> but you did get into uefi, I just want to be clear on that
[17:06] <Kdworak84> nope
[17:06] <halfburnttoast_> it's the difference between dead linux and possibly dead computer
[17:06] <Kdworak84> yes before i installed ubuntu
[17:06] <fieranna> Kdworak84: if you;re sure you cant enter uefi/bios right now, this machine sounds borked. but i would disconnect power and battery and leave it 5 mins just in case it's stuck in some weird power state
[17:07] <Kdworak84> k thatll be my next step
[17:07] <halfburnttoast_> another option is to remove the external drives from the motherboard, if that's possible, and see if you can get into uefi
[17:08] <Kdworak84> external drives?
[17:08] <whadar>  someone here maintains a distro? I'm looking for someone who uses hosting for large files
[17:08] <halfburnttoast_> yeah, basically removing anything that might cause it to fail post
[17:08] <Kdworak84> its a laptop, all usb ports are clear
[17:08] <halfburnttoast_> all non-essentials
[17:08] <halfburnttoast_> ah
[17:08] <halfburnttoast_> well,
[17:08] <halfburnttoast_> that makes it more difficult
[17:08] <obsidian> Kdw, what is your boot priority ?
[17:08] <fieranna> Kdworak84: laptops usually have standard drives connected to their motherboards, however some of the ultraportables have soldered down SSD then you are out of luck. in any case check warranty before opening case.
[17:09] <Kdworak84> obsidian its usb hdd | cd
[17:09] <halfburnttoast_> i meant to say internal drives
[17:10] <halfburnttoast_> CD/DVD, harddisk, card readers, anything that it doesn't need to get into uefi/bios
[17:10] <obsidian> halfburnttoast, it would take some hand-holding but if he has access to the GRUB menu, or grub> prompt he could try to launch the kernel (manually) or at least an existing version if it's an option
[17:10] <halfburnttoast_> which is pretty much just CPU, motherboard, and ram
[17:10] <Kdworak84> not an option
[17:10] <Kdworak84> nothing on the screen
[17:10] <fieranna> i opened up a macbook and discovered the battery was glued down ... that upset me. I had to chisel it out and i do NOT want to be anywhere near lithium with a chisel :(
[17:10] <halfburnttoast_> possibly, but it sounds like he can't even get into bios/uefi
[17:11] <halfburnttoast_> that would be issue #1
[17:11] <obsidian> Kdw, do you get a GRUB loader or Windows Boot loader ?
[17:11] <Kdworak84> lol obsidian
[17:11] <Kdworak84> ur a though cookie
[17:11] <Kdworak84> the first time every i restarted my ubuntu i got the grub and i chose ubuntu
[17:12] <Kdworak84> then i closed the laptop and since then no screen
[17:12] <halfburnttoast_> can you remove the battery from the machine?
[17:12] <Kdworak84> ive done that
[17:12] <obsidian> Kdw, since you can't access your UEFI, you should be able to access a boot loader which is the stage between the UEFI and Kernal (that's panicing)
[17:12] <halfburnttoast_> well, hmm
[17:12] <halfburnttoast_> next step is to remove the harddrive
[17:13] <halfburnttoast_> but, that might void the warrantee
[17:13] <halfburnttoast_> depending on thelaptop
[17:13] <Kdworak84> u think my hd crashed?
[17:13] <Kdworak84> cause it was acting up bad
[17:13] <Kdworak84> the machine that is
[17:13] <halfburnttoast_> well, it's a matter of removing possiblities
[17:13] <CrazyGangster> !lol
[17:13] <halfburnttoast_> all the computer needs to get into bios/uefi is the cpu, motherboard, and the ram
[17:14] <Kdworak84> i apologize
[17:14] <Kdworak84> for the lol'ing
[17:14] <guille_> alguien habla castellano
[17:14] <halfburnttoast_> but, if there's no harddrive, it wont boot into linux
[17:14] <halfburnttoast_> it should report that there is no bootable medium
[17:14] <halfburnttoast_> that'll be a message from bios/uefi
[17:14] <Kdworak84> ok ill try that
[17:14] <halfburnttoast_> which would tell me that the computer is working
[17:14] <Kdworak84> boot with out hd right?
[17:15] <halfburnttoast_> right
[17:15] <Dees_Troy> Anyone able to help me with getting displaylink working in 13.10?
[17:15] <halfburnttoast_> well, don't boot
[17:15] <halfburnttoast_> but turn on without the harddrive
[17:15] <CrazyGangster> no prob, i just checking ubottu! xD
[17:15] <halfburnttoast_> it won't boot, but it should say something
[17:15] <Kdworak84> yeah thats what i ment
[17:15] <guille_> alguien habla español por aqui
[17:15] <Kdworak84> btw thx halfburnt
[17:15] <halfburnttoast_> no problem!
[17:15] <halfburnttoast_> I just want to make sure your computer isn't dead
[17:15] <CrazyGangster> !es | guille_
[17:15] <guille_> ok
[17:16] <fieranna> i would actually look up the pattern of blinking lights in the service manual for the laptop
[17:16] <halfburnttoast_> ^ thats another good idea
[17:16] <halfburnttoast_> not all laptops have beep codes
[17:17] <dino2k> i have a tp-link 8811; and i only can connect it and use adsl connection via USB; is it possible to set it in ubuntu/
[17:17] <Kdworak84> yeah it did have a pattern
[17:17] <Kdworak84> like 2 blinks and pause
[17:17] <halfburnttoast_> aaah
[17:17] <dino2k> @
[17:18] <halfburnttoast_> bingo
[17:18] <Kdworak84> ??
[17:18] <fieranna> the first uefi machine i had, uefi was new and there were no onscreen mesages for boot errors; it just flashed lights and beeped to tell you things
[17:18] <halfburnttoast_> that's probably the motherboard
[17:18] <halfburnttoast_> not linux
[17:18] <Kdworak84> well damn
[17:18] <Kdworak84> thats not good
[17:18] <halfburnttoast_> well, depending on the pattern, it may be fixable
[17:18] <Kdworak84> i was hoping it was the hd
[17:18] <halfburnttoast_> you might have a bad ram stick, or one of the drives is corrupted
[17:18] <halfburnttoast_> it might be
[17:18] <obsidian> fireanna - oh yeah that would irritate me fast
[17:19] <obsidian> UEFI is a headache
[17:19] <Kdworak84> going to try to power it on with hd then take it out, just found a screwdriver
[17:19] <halfburnttoast_> if you remove it the HDD and it doesn't do that, then there's a strong probability that it's the disk
[17:19] <halfburnttoast_> especially if it was working fine before hand
[17:19] <dino2k> varunendra: hello
[17:19] <varunendra> hello dino2k :)
[17:20] <Kdworak84> hey halfburnt
[17:20] <halfburnttoast_> yo
[17:20] <Kdworak84> you are the man
[17:20] <halfburnttoast_> it turn on?
[17:20] <Kdworak84> yes sir
[17:20] <Kdworak84> the rest did the trick
[17:20] <Kdworak84> i got grub
[17:20] <Kdworak84> and ubuntu is up
[17:20] <obsidian> so what was the problem? the hd?
[17:20] <halfburnttoast_> er, did you take it out and put it back in?
[17:20] <Kdworak84> rest as in it rested and powered off
[17:21] <Kdworak84> no didnt touch hd
[17:21] <Kdworak84> took out battery and power cable
[17:21] <halfburnttoast_> ah
[17:21] <obsidian> ..so what did you do?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> Kdworak84  what was your issue?
[17:21] <Kdworak84> still you the man
[17:21] <halfburnttoast_> well, that's.... weird
[17:21] <fieranna> that was me not halfburnttoast_ but i dont care so long as it fixed it :)
[17:21] <Mongo44> I am trying to get my VM to run in 1366X768 this is the output of less /etc/X11/xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6880203/
[17:21] <halfburnttoast_> heh, not trying to take credit
[17:21] <Kdworak84> fieranna!!! my fault!!!
[17:21] <halfburnttoast_> maybe uefi got caught in a power loop or something
[17:22] <obsidian> Kdworak84, wait ... so all you did is power off and reboot?
[17:22] <halfburnttoast_> he took the battery out
[17:22] <Kdworak84> obsidian it sat for like 10 min and yea it turned on
[17:22] <obsidian> Bizarre?
[17:22] <halfburnttoast_> pretty
[17:22] <Kdworak84> well sorry for the commosion
[17:22] <obsidian> Interesting..
[17:22] <emil_stdio> newbie question: what is the purpose of the text that appears on the corner of the desktop when I type text ( this is not the command bar when I type a command )
[17:23] <obsidian> Well, glad you got your machine working again! And, yes, halfburnt & fieranna both deserve a little credit ;-)
[17:23] <Rory> emil_stdio: what ubuntu version are you using?
[17:23] <Mongo44> Right now I can only run it in 640X480.
[17:23] <halfburnttoast_> heh, well in the future I'll need to remember to ask what pattern the lights are flashing in earlier
[17:23] <emil_stdio> Rory: 12.04
[17:23] <halfburnttoast_> I'd forgotten that not all laptops have beepcodes :/
[17:23] <Kdworak84> all of you deserve the credit, half most of all, man first brush with linux and It was a close one
[17:24] <Rory> emil_stdio: The file manager "nautilus" draws the desktop. if you have shortcuts on your desktop, you can start typing to select one with that name, the same as you can in the file manager
[17:24] <Kdworak84> wow I thought I needed a new machine
[17:24] <Kdworak84> atleast a new hd
[17:25] <halfburnttoast_> heh, well, as sherlock would say: balance of probabilities
[17:25] <emil_stdio> Rory: odd, it does not really launch an app that is in the launcher ( this is just a small rectangular box on the lower right/left corner )  unity desktop
[17:25] <Kdworak84> im an IT noob
[17:25] <obsidian> Mine gave me the blinking capslock + fnlock once but I don't recall what I did to fix the issue. It was probably related to the UEFI firmwar
[17:26] <Kdworak84> but want to learn linux and everything about it
[17:26] <halfburnttoast_> well, I figured that UEFI secureboot would just kill it immediately
[17:26] <emil_stdio> it just appears whenever I type and I am just on the desktop.  I'm just curious what it's purpose is
[17:26] <emil_stdio> *on the desktop, I mean no window on the current workspace
[17:27] <Kdworak84> once again, thx guys for helping with a hardware question, cant even call it an ubuntu question...  take care!
[17:28] <obsidian> emil_stdio it's just a desktop searchbox
[17:28] <halfburnttoast_> no probs, seeya
[17:28] <dino2k> sorry
[17:28] <Rory> emil_stdio: I know it is not the launcher. It is searching for the names of desktop shortcuts
[17:28] <Rory> emil_stdio: It operates identically to the same functionality in the file manager Nautilus
[17:28] <dino2k> I have coneected my TPlink tp td-8811via usb port;
[17:28] <emil_stdio> Rory: sorry, just found it. I kept searching for ubuntu/precise and text/desktop.  seems just unity, to focus on a desktop item
[17:29] <Rory> emil_stdio: Make a file on your desktop called "foo" and search for "fo" and you will see it selected
[17:29] <emil_stdio> since I don't have items on the desktop, it's useless for me
[17:29] <dino2k> is it possible to use it like that in ubuntu
[17:29] <Rory> emil_stdio: Me too, but you did ask :)
[17:30] <emil_stdio> Rory: yes, thanks.  strange feature. I though the unity UI was conducive to a clean desktop.  oh, well
[17:30] <obsidian> emil_stdio - if say (hypothetically) you had a really messy desktop with a bunch of files (crap) and you wanted to find a file or folder quickly you could just start typing the name of what you're looking for and the text will show up in a textbox in the lower righthand corner of the screen and immediately highlight the file / folder you're looking for
[17:30] <overratedsnowbal> hello, does anyone know how to use NFS with AUFS?
[17:31] <obsidian> and yeah - if you don't have anything on your desktop then it's useless :-)
[17:32] <fieranna> why am i seeing google chrome updates in the software updater? i thought google chrome updated itself these days?
[17:33] <fieranna> ah wait, i have a 3rd party PPA. sorry chaps
[17:33] <chemist^> :)
[17:34] <michagogo|cloud> fieranna: Chrome updates itself on Windows
[17:34] <michagogo|cloud> And maybe also on OS X
[17:34] <michagogo|cloud> But on Linux, it relies on the package manager to stay up to date
[17:34] <dino2k> any ideas
[17:35] <michagogo|cloud> When you download and install the .deb they give you, it adds their repo
[17:35] <Mongo44> I am still trying to fix my screen resolution it is a real pain.
[17:35] <halfburnttoast_> xrandr not working?
[17:38] <Mongo44> I used this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Monitor_or_Screens, but /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't look like what is shown: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6880203/
[17:39] <tds5016> hi all. I was wondering what the easiest way to check if DHCP is set to full/static/mixed on ubuntu? I'm trying to do this through pyhton... so if there's an easier way than reading a file, that'd be best, but I could handle any of it.
[17:39] <halfburnttoast_> this is for a VM right?
[17:40] <chemist^> tdn_, /etc/network/interfaces
[17:40] <chemist^> tds5016
[17:40] <overratedsnowbal> does anyone use aufs?
[17:40] <tds5016> what line am I looking for?
[17:42] <chemist^> tds5016, could you do: "pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces" ? ... (without the "")
[17:42] <chemist^> if you don't have pastebinit installed do "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[17:43] <chemist^> tds5016, paste the URL here so i can take a look
[17:43] <tds5016> chemist^: this is for an embedded device... so sudo apt-get install won't work wo well :-)
[17:43] <tds5016> so well*
[17:43] <chemist^> ok than just do "cat /etc/network/interfaces
[17:44] <tds5016> chemist^: yeah. :-). what would the different settings show up as.
[17:44] <overratedsnowbal> does anyone have any alternatives to aufs that can be networked
[17:44] <tds5016> it looks like inet dhcp and inet6 dhcp are there.
[17:44] <tds5016> and auto eth0
[17:44] <tds5016> looks like loopback is also set to auto.
[17:45] <chemist^> if it says inet dhcp that means dhcp is enabled
[17:45] <tds5016> what would the settings for mixed and static look like
[17:45] <tds5016> ?*
[17:45] <dino2k> any help?
[17:45] <chemist^> if it is set to static, it's written "static"
[17:45] <chemist^> and IP's listd
[17:45] <chemist^> listed...
[17:45] <chemist^> if you have no IPs listed, and insted of "static" it says "dhcp" ...
[17:46] <chemist^> you should figure it out :
[17:46] <chemist^> :P
[17:46] <chemist^> tds5016, wait...i can show you
[17:46] <tds5016> gotchya. so that shows me static and dhcp.... what would it do for mixed?
[17:46] <chemist^> tds5016, i have 2 machines, one is set to auto dhcp and one to static ip
[17:46] <tds5016> thanks btw!
[17:47] <chemist^> wait 30 sec.
[17:47] <tds5016> wwaiting :-)
[17:51] <Mongo44> I still have the same problem. My connection was dropped now I am back.
[17:52] <dupingping> hi
[17:55] <xforks> Just installed kubuntu 14.04. Seems pretty darn stable so far
[17:56] <Mongo44> How do I add a line in vi?
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> Mongo44  http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/02/vi_tutorial_for_beginners/
[18:06] <dino2k> guys any help/
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> dino2k  start with a question
[18:10] <Guest65692> exit
[18:10] <Guest65692> exit
[18:10] <Guest65692> exit
[18:11] <Aossi> Any one active?
[18:11] <Aossi> i need a wee bit of help
[18:12] <weedmic> I had an interesting request today that I don't know how to handle.  I have a directory called PUBS, the owner is man-PUBS, normally there would only be one group grp-PUBS, but the manager wants there to be two groups, grp-PUBS-ro and grp-PUBS-rw with different rights.  Other must be set to "0".  How do I deal with two groups?
[18:13] <jainabk> Hello
[18:13] <jainabk> Hi Guys !!!
[18:13] <loa> how i can downgrade chromium?
[18:13] <loa> i have now ubuntu 13.10
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> loa  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:14] <loa> MobGod, downgrade
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> ah downgrade
[18:14] <loa> MobGod, oh sorry
[18:14] <loa> MonkeyDust, yes
[18:14] <JamesKZOO> weedmic: be happy they don't want to rename the directory to pubes... that would suck to be man-pubes, grp-pubes, etc...
[18:14] <Aossi> hey MonkeyDust how would i go about updating flash with terminal. the files on the site arent helping me really.
[18:14] <loa> i have problems with current version.
[18:14] <loa> it have broken things
[18:14] <fieranna> loa: Yes, flash has stopped working?
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> loa  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[18:15] <fieranna> loa: Pepper should now be available and working
[18:15] <weedmic> it is short for Publishing - funny though.  I wated it to be PUBL
[18:15] <loa> fieranna, pepper flash?
[18:15] <Aossi> can some one help me update flash via terminal. i use chromium not firefox
[18:16] <weedmic> Is there no way in linux to assign more than one group rights, like a way to do 7660 or chmod g0+rw and g1+r?  I know I cannot assign chgown to a group - tried it
[18:16] <steviedon> weedmic: Have a look at ACL's you should be able to set different permissions for the different grps
[18:17] <weedmic> can you name any?
[18:18]  * JamesKZOO plays jeopardy music
[18:18] <fieranna> loa: if this is about NPAPI being dropped from chromium (which will break flash on linux) then yes, pepper flash is where i would go. If not, then i dont know what your question was.
[18:19] <loa> fieranna, flash working, but npapi broken yes.
[18:19] <loa> many crappy ads appear on youtube)
[18:19] <steviedon> weedmic: have a look at te ubuntu help pages for file permissions talks about ACL access control lists there, they are extra to the usual rwx perms
[18:20] <Aossi> can some one help me at all?
[18:20] <fieranna> loa: you could uninstall, and then re-install the older verison. use synapic to lock version  so it never upgrades
[18:21] <loa> fieldfirst, synapptic can help me with this?
[18:22] <fieranna> loa: synaptic package managers gui enables you to lock a package to a specific version so it does not upgrade normally
[18:22] <loa> ok, then i stucked, how i can get what old versions rep have?
[18:23] <LuckySpammer> Hey guys. New to Linux, but trying to switch from Windows. I have a new PC parts hitting my doorstep in a few hours. What's the best way to dual boot with Windows 8? Most of the guides I read are from the aspect of having Windows 8 already installed and using it's boot manager - Is that best with a clean hard drive?
[18:23] <stoneyj> hi there, I am trying to install the ec2-api-tools on 13.10 amd64, however it says the package doesn't exist, and when trying to do apt-get update after following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EC2StartersGuide just gives me 404 errors on the repo
[18:23] <fieranna> loa: see different versions at top: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=chromium
[18:23] <fieldfirst> loa: Did you mean synaptic package manager ?
[18:23] <stoneyj> any ideas? i dont see the package anywhere in apt-cache search
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | LuckySpammer start with some reading here
[18:24] <loa> fieranna, ok how you installed pepper flash?
[18:24] <fieranna> LuckySpammer: I would start with win8 installed, yes. it likes to trash other OS when it installes, so win8 first is usually the best way to go
[18:25] <LuckySpammer> MonkeyDust, fieranna: Thanks for the help.
[18:25] <Aossi> does any one know how i can update flash with my terminal
[18:25] <loa> fieranna, i found such doc http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/install-pepper-flash-player-for.html
[18:25] <loa> but looks like it don't work (
[18:27] <OerHeks> loa, latest flash 11.2.202.336 is only available for 13.10 >> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/saucy/adobe-flashplugin/
[18:28] <loa> OerHeks, hmm, i want pepper flash, not adobe
[18:28] <AndrewH> Hey, This is my first day with Ubuntu, my brother jsut installed it for me because my windows crashed. He names my computer "DoucheNozzle".... How do i go about changing that?
[18:28] <OerHeks> better use chrome with same latest pepper 11.2.202.336
[18:29] <loa> OerHeks, i can't understand
[18:29] <fieranna> chrome is up to 11.9 or 12
[18:30] <fieranna> loa : He is saying google chrome has a better flash player than chromium (but chrome is proprietary  software)
[18:31] <loa> i don't want to mess with profiles (
[18:31] <loa> i think there will be errors.
[18:31] <mrdavid> I'm running Unity on an 11.10 system. I have a question mark icon that is permanently floating on the left of my screen. When I activate the application launcher, it looks like the question mark icon is part of that. I can't make it go away. Any ideas?
[18:31] <Doci> mrdavid: reflex question: why 11.10? why not any LTS?
[18:32] <OerHeks> mrdavid, 11.10 is EOL, so that ? sounds like an update manager wants to tell you something
[18:33] <mrdavid> it's a Dell system that was only supported by 11.10 at the time
[18:33] <mrdavid> upgrading is a to do item but it's not convenient at the time.
[18:34] <Doci> are there other people here with an ATI driver that suddenly stopped working in the past few days? I just ran an update/upgrade (12.04.3, apt-get update && upgrade) and after that my compiz suicided, along with pretty much any game.
[18:34] <Doci> mrdavid: i'm guessing update settings then? something like "don't tell me when there's an upgrade"
[18:34] <mrdavid> what app might that be? I'll try killing it
[18:34] <Doci> following OerHeks' suggestion that it has to do with update manager
[18:35] <OerHeks> en ! in a red dot would be a programm crash if i recall correctly
[18:36] <Doci> any chance you have a screenshot available?
[18:36] <mrdavid> Doci: me?
[18:36] <Doci> mrdavid: yes, if convenient with a big red arrow pointing to the anomaly
[18:36] <Aossi> >.>
[18:36] <mrdavid> sure, one moment
[18:36] <Aossi> so can any one help me
[18:36] <Doci> Aossi: what? :P
[18:37] <Doci> oh, sorry, i must have missed your problem
[18:37] <Doci> (fyi, i'm just new here btw)
[18:37] <Aossi> Doci: i need to find out how to update my flash with terminal i tried downloading the files from the flash site and none of them worked
[18:37] <Doci> just a sec, i remember that one vaguely
[18:37] <Aossi> Doci: can you pm it to me?
[18:38] <Doci> Aossi: just for others who may be reading for the same reason;
[18:38] <Doci> tried sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer  ?
[18:39] <Doci> afaik, installing this way while it's installed already acts as upgrading that package if there's a new version available
[18:39] <chevi> hi
[18:39] <Aossi> it says i have the newest version but when i go to youtube on chromium it tells me to update
[18:39] <Doci> chevi: hi
[18:40] <Doci> Aossi: does it work without updating?
[18:40] <Doci> (also try sudo apt-get update and running the install again)
[18:40] <fieranna> Aossi: chromium just depreciated NPAPI which has affected flash, i am not sure if that is the underlying problem
[18:40] <Aossi> x.x
[18:40] <Aossi> lemme try with firefox
[18:40] <Aossi> standby
[18:41] <chevi> anyone versed in soundcard problems?
[18:41] <Doci> also run a sudo apt-get update first before apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[18:41] <fieranna> Aossi: google chrome has the only updated linux desktop OS flash player sadly :(
[18:41] <mrdavid> http://postimg.org/image/gsi36uthj/
[18:41] <Doci> chevi: no, i'm into video problems right now
[18:41] <chevi> ok
[18:41] <Doci> but i'm sure somebody here has ;)
[18:41] <mrdavid> doci: if I enable the app launcher, that question mark icon fits perfectly in it
[18:41] <Aossi> fieranna: niether chromium or firefox will let me they both tell me to update flash
[18:41] <Doci> well, that's at least one problem solved :D
[18:42] <fieranna> Aossi: chrome should work, sadly it appears to be the only way unless you can pepper working in chromium or firefox
[18:42] <Doci> Aossi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[18:42] <chevi> anyone else into sound trouble can help me?
[18:42] <fieranna> Aossi: you can link the video? I will try on my system
[18:42] <Aossi> lets try now holdo n
[18:43] <Doci> asking again, btw, anyone trouble with ATI drivers/compiz lately?
[18:43] <Doci> chevi: what problem is it anyway
[18:43] <chevi> it wont sound
[18:43] <Aossi> Doci: nope youtube says to update
[18:43] <chevi> sometimes even recognize
[18:43] <Aossi> should i maybe reboot?
[18:44] <fieranna> Aossi: if all 3 not working i doublt is the chromium issue; sounds like regular flash problem
[18:44] <Aossi> >.< i wants my music!
[18:44] <Doci> Aossi: sounds very windows-ish, but you may try, it doesn't hurt ;)
[18:44] <Doci> Aossi: lrn2torrent :P
[18:44] <Aossi> lmao
[18:44] <Aossi> wait
[18:44] <Aossi> does utorrent work on ubuntu?
[18:44] <Aossi> is ubuntu really that awsome xD
[18:44] <Doci> i doubt it, though
[18:44] <mrdavid> Doci: did you see that screenshot?
[18:44] <chevi> (thatĺl be extremely awesome)
[18:44] <Aossi> Doci: then how to torrent on ubuntu
[18:44] <Doci> mrdavid: didn't get a chance yet, link?
[18:45] <fieranna> Aossi: can you link the video? and yes, there are ubuntu rorrent clients. in fact transmission should be preinstalled
[18:45] <Doci> Aossi: rtorrent, transmission, i'm sure there's a dozen
[18:45] <CrazyZurfer> hi, I've got this problem while showing all the windows open (http://i.imgur.com/s9xJc12.png) ... some of them appear but the others doesn't, but when I put the mose in.. the orange border appears and when I click them, the windows gets opened as it should... in conclusion the problem is that I don't see wich one of them I'm opening :)
[18:45] <mrdavid> Doci: http://postimg.org/image/gsi36uthj/
[18:45] <Aossi> ERMERGERD!!
[18:45] <Aossi> torrents!
[18:45]  * Aossi loves ubuntu again
[18:45] <Doci> mrdavid: ty
[18:46] <Horse_> Aossi, they're working in a Utorrent port for linux
[18:46] <Horse_> Aossi, on a
[18:46] <Aossi> sweeet
[18:46] <Doci> Aossi: my faith in ubuntu broke with the video driver >_>
[18:46] <Doci> CrazyZurfer: compiz or unity?
[18:46] <Aossi> Doci: nvidia ftw
[18:46] <fieranna> Doci:  gaming gfx  and proaudio are a mess, yes
[18:46] <Aossi> the ONLY real problem i have with ubuntu is the lack in ability to play lineage 2 or ragnarok online 2 cause wine hates me
[18:47] <CrazyZurfer> Doci: compiz I guess, not sure
[18:47] <Aossi> but at least wine loves me enough to play my MUSHclient
[18:47] <Doci> mrdavid: that looks like the unity sidebar forgot to hide that icon
[18:47] <Aossi> now if only i could get grive to work
[18:47] <Doci> maybe gnome-classic session? does that help?
[18:47] <fieranna> Aossi: oddly, linux has no shortage of mud clients, i mean where do you think those muds were born? :-)
[18:47] <Doci> Aossi: ati driver was cheaper at the time
[18:47] <Aossi> fieranna: does you play materiamagica?
[18:47] <mrdavid> Doci: is there a way to restart the sidebar?
[18:48] <Doci> logout/login?
[18:48] <Aossi> fieranna: if you do i will love you foreber
[18:48] <fieranna> Aossi: I used to run zonescape, not played materiaamagica
[18:48] <mrdavid> Doci: ugh
[18:48] <chevi> anyone can help me with the infamous hda-intel sound?
[18:48] <Doci> fieranna: everything was fine until i ran an update this morning, since then my UT99 didn't want to start, and after the reboot, compiz started to glitch
[18:49] <Doci> i wonder if it has to do with the latest kernel upgrade
[18:49] <Aossi> fieranna: pm gave you link to MM
[18:49] <Doci> but then i would expect the WWW to be flooded with ATI complaints
[18:49] <fieranna> Doci: I can't get SLI working at all :(
[18:49] <fieranna> Aossi: ty, will check it out
[18:49] <Aossi> you better
[18:49] <Aossi> there is a mushclient specifically for materiamagica ill get you a link for it
[18:49] <Aossi> ooh
[18:49] <Aossi> wait
[18:50] <Doci> SLI is beyond my capability and need -- i still have a single 22" screen and no need to go further
[18:50] <Aossi> can i file transfer on this irc?
[18:50] <Doci> Aossi: imho that's generally impolite
[18:50] <Doci> but that's just me talkin'
[18:50] <Aossi> what is? givin the client to a mudder?
[18:50] <mrdavid> Doci: I ran unity --replace & and that fixed it
[18:51] <mrdavid> Doci: unfortunately it minimized every window
[18:51] <Doci> mrdavid: nice
[18:51] <Aossi> bbiab
[18:51] <Doci> well that you can survive, can't you? ;)
[18:51] <chevi> k, guys, can see ure pretty busy right now, ill come back later n see if i can get any help
[18:51] <mrdavid> is there a way to unminimize every xterm?
[18:51] <Doci> chevi: just stay
[18:51] <chevi> really?
[18:51] <chevi> i dont wanna be a pest...
[18:51] <Doci> chevi: just watch this chan for 3 minutes
[18:51] <chevi> ok
[18:52] <Doci> you start with good manner, so i doubt you should worry about being a pest, lol
[18:52] <mrdavid> anyone know how to "un-minimize" all xterms?
[18:52] <chevi> lol, thnx
[18:52] <Doci> alt+tab?
[18:52] <Doci> i'd say reboot or re-login
[18:53] <mrdavid> Doci: that brings up an xterm icon and then it expands with every xterm that I have open. I'd have to unminize each
[18:53] <chevi> afk for a sec
[18:53] <Doci> also, i wouldn't mind if auditorium mode on this channel would be turned on, so we don't have login/logout spam
[18:53] <Doci> mrdavid: ouf
[18:53] <bazhang> thats in your client Doci
[18:53] <Doci> the first thing i did was install gnome-panel, so i'd not have to deal with that
[18:53] <chevi> back
[18:53] <Doci> bazhang: irssi too?
[18:54] <Doci> didn't know that one.
[18:54] <bazhang> !quietirssi
[18:54] <bazhang> ^ Doci
[18:54] <utack> i wanted to see if a string is anywhere on a device, how would i do that? certainly "cat /dev/sd..." and then? grep does not work
[18:54] <Doci> bazhang: golden!
[18:55] <Doci> utack: more specific, string on device?
[18:55] <utack> Doci, yeah anywhere. just cat all the raw data and see if a string is matched somewhere
[18:55] <Doci> ouf, i'm not sure if ubuntu allows it that way
[18:56] <Doci> string with spaces, I assume you mean?
[18:56] <utack> as root starting "cat /dev/sdi" works. but i don't exactly know how to search for the string then. and it has no spaces, more a word
[18:56] <chevi> like seeking for a value?
[18:56] <Doci> | grep keyword
[18:56] <mrdavid> Doci: I'm more or less back in business. I hardly ever reboot and rarely restart X.
[18:56] <Doci> that didn't work?
[18:57] <Doci> mrdavid: ubuntu starts much to behave like windows in this matter... if it doesn't work, reboot, try again
[18:57] <utack> ah it does. cool
[18:57] <Doci> utack: gl :)
[18:57] <utack> thx
[18:58] <Doci> so, anyone with ati here?
[18:58] <daftykins> AMD graphics?
[18:58] <Doci> yeah
[18:58] <chevi> in fact...i also has this issue with my nvidia...
[18:58] <mistawright> hi guys i needed some help i have cron jobs that are making my server unusable. how can I kill the running cron jobs?
[18:58] <daftykins> Doci: you might want to ask your actual question rather than wait for a bunch of yes's ;)
[18:59] <Doci> myeah, did a few times already
[18:59] <loa> OerHeks, what is better to use, chromium or google chrome?
[18:59] <daftykins> Doci: i see a lot of you typing small bits on many lines, no single paragraph of question though (:
[18:59] <loa> if i am just simple user)
[18:59] <loa> i get now flash 12
[18:59] <loa> and looks like it is better
[18:59] <loa> thx
[18:59] <Doci> daftykins: just helping out in the meanwhile too, building some positive karma, lol
[19:00] <loa> i got google-chrome-stable and see it is not very stable :S
[19:00] <chevi> lol
[19:00] <Doci> sec, i re-search my problem lol, i forgot cli outputs so i have to try those again
[19:00] <xforks> Chromiom is based on chrome, so you'd get very similar browser regardless which one you choose.
[19:00] <Doci> daftykins: aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[19:00] <Doci> has been working since somewhere in 2012 without problems
[19:01] <loa> xforks, it is not similar, i see freeze when use google chrome
[19:01] <daftykins> Doci: what hardware and what method are you installing drivers by? what gave that error?
[19:01] <swatson> google chrome is based on chromium -- id say use chromium, much better IMHO
[19:01] <Doci> i wasn't installing anything
[19:01] <xforks> loa, i don't use either but chromium is a chrome deriviate so they also do their own thing. I take it you go with chromium then?
[19:02] <Doci> i ran an apt-get update/upgrade this morning, didn't notice anything, continued work, tried to play UT, and from there i discovered that my compiz didn't work anymore
[19:02] <chevi> anyone can help me with my sound card issue?
[19:02] <Doci> from there on i couldn't get into my catalyst settings,
[19:02] <Doci> and no resolve on google yet
[19:02] <xforks> I find it annoying they went from Firefox 26 in kubuntu 13 to firefox 25 in kubuntu 14
[19:02] <Doci> also no recent mentions of the same problems of other people, so i guess it's a unique case
[19:03] <loa> xforks, i only see one point of installing google chrome it add new flash into system) but i found rep where new flash is standalone)
[19:03] <fieranna> swatson xforks: chrome is chromium with additional proprietary code, for example, a newer flash player; sometimes you run into content chromium can't play
[19:04] <daftykins> Doci: ok, have you rebooted since? i'll ask again: *which card*, *which driver* ?
[19:04] <daftykins> and which ubuntu version too?
[19:04] <fieranna> loa: Filling out PDF forms online as well ... but most people don't need to do that. However if you do, it usually fails with chromium :(
[19:05] <loa> i don't know even what is PDF forms :)
[19:05] <loa> i only know pdf files
[19:05] <mrdavid> Doci: that's not the unix way
[19:05] <mrdavid> Doci: I'm old school
[19:06] <fieranna> loa: It's a pdf file with spaces to type in information. it's not common you see them but they are useful sometimes for sending out complex forms that require filling in
[19:06] <loa> ah
[19:06] <fieranna> loa: UK Government has a lot of their small business forms done this way, for example
[19:06] <loa> intresting
[19:08] <Doci> daftykins: ATI Radeon HIS 4770, driver I can't identify that quickly, what cli cmd was that again?
[19:08] <Doci> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[19:09] <Doci> gnome-panel with compiz and compizconfig manager
[19:09] <Doci> loa: i remember in 2002 that I had to download 15.5 MB of form over a 56k modem, fill in and upload again
[19:09] <Doci> loa: after 2 days it failed and had to start all over again
[19:10] <chevi> hda ULI M5461 soundcard wont sound on my acer-aspire e500a...anyone??
[19:11] <fieranna> Doci: post office probably quicker :-)
[19:11] <dubis> Helo Someone can help on the java firefox pluging ???
[19:11] <digs> So, I keep getting 503 errors that were not happening before. I can perform the same action several times on the website and half the time, (starting to become more often), I get a 503 error and am redirected to the home page. So, here is the syslog of what happens when I get the 503 error: http://codepad.org/iqjlnLhH
[19:11] <loa> Doci, it is ok, i mother russia we need to use pen and stand in people flow for hours.
[19:11] <loa> in mother *
[19:12] <digs> I have apache+memcache+apc+varnish running a heavy weight drupal site. The site is not producing errors. There are no error logs from php or apache.
[19:13] <wolfy1339> is anyone else having this problem in 14.04 http://askubuntu.com/questions/416871/launcher-and-menu-bar-missing-14-04 ? I'm not sure what to do
[19:13] <dubis> Here the error => http://pastebin.com/aUppmKvu
[19:13] <Doci> 14.04? isn't that still in alpha?
[19:13] <ianorlin> yes it is
[19:13] <wolfy1339> but it works better than 13.10
[19:14] <Doci> daftykins: how do i read a driver version from cli again?
[19:15] <Doci> the stupid thing is that it has been working for the longer of a year, never had trouble, and now it quits. that implies that the proper software and drivers are installed, but that something turned 'em off, or broke them
[19:16] <digs> memcache just crashed.
[19:16] <daftykins> Doci: so since you first installed, you've never manually installed a graphics driver?
[19:16] <digs> So, it has to be memcache that is the issue.
[19:16] <Doci> daftykins: correct
[19:16] <Doci> eh
[19:16] <Doci> sec,
[19:16] <Doci> i have catalyst installed
[19:16] <Doci> and have been running fine with that
[19:16] <daftykins> so you did install a driver
[19:16] <Doci> obviously, yes
[19:17] <Doci> i just don't consciously recall it ;)
[19:17] <daftykins> heh well considering how many times you've changed your mind... :D
[19:17] <daftykins> Doci: and you've rebooted since those last updates?
[19:17] <daftykins> Doci: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[19:17] <Doci> at least 3 times today ;)
[19:17] <daftykins> ok so if a new kernel came along you're more than likely running it
[19:17] <Oog> ubuntu 13.10 i have sendmail installed and it is working to deliver local emails - the problem is i have a .forward file in my home directory and it is being ignored. how do i make sendmail use the .forward?
[19:19] <Doci> daftykins: http://p.blicky.net/167ex
[19:19] <tatoma> I need convincing why I should switch completely out of Windows for my laptop I'm using for studying?
[19:19] <Doci> daftykins: yeah, the first thing i tried was running with an older kernel (grub > older versions of ubuntu(
[19:19] <Doci> ) *
[19:19] <daftykins> *nod*
[19:19] <Doci> tatoma: dual boot is fine imo
[19:20] <Doci> you'll just notice that you'll boot less in windows at some poin
[19:20] <Doci> t
[19:20] <fieranna> tatoma: If you're happy, why switch?
[19:20] <fieranna> tatoma: Contrary to what you might have been told, Ubuntu is not a religion :-)
[19:20] <Doci> daftykins: older kernels didn't make a difference, though, and i was stupid enough to apt-get autoremove at some point
[19:20] <Doci> fieranna: the unix way is, amirite? ;)
[19:20] <daftykins> Doci: do you think it was a manually downloaded driver from AMD, or an fglrx package from a PPA?
[19:21] <tatoma> I'm looking at the advantages? I'm intrigued by the freedom of linux.
[19:21] <Doci> i bet fglrx, but i can't find anything about a ppa
[19:21] <Doci> tatoma: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[19:21] <opty> hey what package is gpasswd in?
[19:22] <DJones> !find gpasswd
[19:22] <DJones> opty: See above
[19:22] <Doci> daftykins: http://p.blicky.net/vo8fj
[19:22] <Doci> stand by for me checking other ppas
[19:22] <daftykins> Doci: well, that's very odd because i see it detect your hardware as being the 4770, it lists support for the 4770 but then as you pasted earlier it claims it's not supported! D:
[19:22] <opty> DJones, thanks
[19:23] <opty> !find chkpwd
[19:23] <Guest73819> hi. ubuntu 13.10 don't see an AP on channel 13 whereas iwlist wlan0 frequency or iwlist channel shows me a channel 13. I had to boot into windows to connect to the AP. My android phone is also able to see the hotspot. so why not ubuntu ?
[19:23] <Doci> no other relevant ppas btw
[19:24] <Doci> daftykins: it's not my first bbq, i just never got into this situation before
[19:24] <Doci> first i thougt my Unreal Tournament 99 was just being groggy again
[19:24] <Doci> but from bad to worse....
[19:24] <tatoma> Also I kinda like to use Linux as it increases my productivity codewise as I spend less time playing games.
[19:24] <Doci> tatoma: THIS. SO. MUCH.
[19:24] <bibi234> hello, I have an ubuntu computer and a thermal printer (ESC/POS), I'd like to connect them (I've alread installed cups and tried through the interface without success), what can I do? I'd like to print a dummy thing like "Hello", what is the easiest way to do it?
[19:25] <tatoma> Even though Steam is going for linux and great amount of indies are compatible this ain't not so valid point.
[19:25] <Doci> bibi234: notepad/openoffice, type, print,
[19:25] <Doci> tatoma: minecraft >_>
[19:25] <daftykins> Doci: hehe, i guess you could try either reverting fglrx to an older version or just try downloading and installing one from AMD's website if you feel comfortable with that, you can type !ati to get a link to a guide from the channel bot if not
[19:25] <Doci> bibi234: that what you wanted to know? or do you have trouble connecting to the printer?
[19:26] <Doci> daftykins: i think i prefer the reverting fglrx first, where do i get started on that?
[19:27] <daftykins> Doci: i'm only vaguely familiar with the idea that you can remove fglrx then install a specific version by appending an extra variable with your apt-get command, couldn't tell you how to do it though - i've never done it
[19:27] <daftykins> Doci: i've just found some further useful info though, one sec
[19:28] <Doci> daftykins: thanks for the effort, eitherway
[19:28] <bibi234> Doci: not sure it would work, this is a ticket printer, it looks like this one (http://www.myposprinter.com/images/SRP-350G.gif). It needs a special format input apparently called ESC/POS. Yes I haven't connected it yet.
[19:28] <Doci> ah, that way
[19:28] <Doci> i hate those things >_>
[19:28] <daftykins> Doci: ah no, from your X.org log you're already good on version numbers - take a look at the section 'Older RadeonHD' here: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Hardware
[19:29] <swatson> Lol is that my piece of sh*t printer . com
[19:29] <swatson> ?
[19:29] <Wokrax> r
[19:29] <photek> !seen bodhi_zazen
[19:29] <photek> .seen bodhi_zazen
[19:29] <rww> photek: no seen bot in here
[19:29] <photek> ok
[19:30] <Doci> still, it's definately related to the gflxr (or whatever the order of l,x and r), since i booted, upgraded, rebooted, failed.
[19:30] <ianorlin> use /msg nickserv info bodhi_zazen instead
[19:31] <Doci> still, i'm not sure whether I should be offended that my vid is now suddently considered "older "
[19:31] <daftykins> Doci: ah silly me, it's the 'radeon' driver that says it's supporting your card right now, not fglrx. so fglrx having updated is definitely the issue
[19:31] <Doci> i guess i'll just not play any games until april, or do a clean install before that time
[19:31] <Doci> ok, one step in the right direction
[19:32] <daftykins> well running a newer LTS isn't going to make it work, if anything it'll guarantee your old card will no longer be supported
[19:32] <Doci> i'm still hoping for an insignificant fuckup on my behalf
[19:33] <fieranna> swatson: POS=point of sale. shop receipt printers etc
[19:33] <Doci> still, by my understanding, a 3-4 year old vid can not possibly be considered outdated/unsupported
[19:34] <Doci> hell, there is even more support for my gma500 in my netbook *gunfire starts*
[19:34] <rocketpenguin> I am having an issue with graphics drivers. I just installed Ubuntu 12.04.2, knowing that was the last update that Radeon HD 4200 graphics cards worked. why do i not see the driver in the drivers list?!
[19:35] <Doci> rocketpenguin: you joined the conversation at the right moment
[19:36] <Doci> having similar trouble with hd 4770
[19:36] <rocketpenguin> Doci, ?
[19:36] <daftykins> Doci: tell that to AMD :)
[19:36] <rocketpenguin> aha
[19:36] <Doci> daftykins and I are trying to sort out why my 4770 on 12.04 stopped working this afternoon, after the gflrx update
[19:37] <tatoma> How good is ubuntu with supporting dual monitors?
[19:37] <daftykins> rocketpenguin: are you talking about not being offered something via the 'hardware drivers' section of software settings?
[19:37] <rocketpenguin> Doci, Honestly, i hate AMD cards to an extreme.
[19:37] <daftykins> tatoma: depends on the graphics card really
[19:37] <rocketpenguin> daftykins, Correct.
[19:37] <tatoma> With modern gaming GPU?
[19:38] <Doci> i prefer amd over intel, but now i have intel cpu / ati gpu, i must say that amd + ati worked better at the time
[19:38] <daftykins> rocketpenguin: sounds like you're both suffering from fglrx for the 4000 series no longer being the version you're being offered - assuming you can see the package 'fglrx' at all?
[19:38] <Doci> daftykins: trying the reverting btw
[19:38] <daftykins> Doci: good good, let us know how it goes
[19:39] <rocketpenguin> daftykins, Where would i see it? I just downgraded on Ubuntu because the latest didnt work with my card at all (Black screen) And am now a tad bit pi$$ed because it still doesnt work.
[19:40] <Doci> .. if i can find the version numbers somewhere...
[19:40] <Doci> is there any type of file/package archive for this exact reason?
[19:40] <denis_makogon> hi 2 all
[19:40] <denis_makogon> i've got question
[19:41] <denis_makogon> about mongodb packages
[19:41] <daftykins> rocketpenguin: apt-get update && apt-cache showpkg fglrx
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> denis_makogon  let's hear it, in one line
[19:41] <mojtaba> Hi, does anybody know how can I fix this? this is the result of running apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6880969/
[19:41] <rocketpenguin> daftykins, Crud. I am updating. Give me a moment...
[19:42] <denis_makogon> why ubuntu cloud archive contain old version (2.0.4) but community repo contains 2.9.4 version
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  remove ppa, try again
[19:43] <Doci> okay.. back to square one... how do i find which fglrx to install.......
[19:43] <Doci> (i refrain from uninstalling anything until i have all resources available)
[19:43] <rocketpenguin> daftykins, K, command has been done.
[19:43] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: How can I remove those which has 404 errors?
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> !ppa-purge | mojtaba
[19:44] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: thanks, but what if I don't want to revert back to default and just want to remove those which have problem?
[19:45] <rocketpenguin> daftykins, Still no proprietary drivers...
[19:45] <Doci> nvm, synaptic ftw
[19:45] <ViswaV> Hi all.. can someone here please speak to the availability of latest mongo package on ubuntu official repos? It seems the current stable available via ubuntu precise repo is 2.0.4 whereas the latest stable mongo is 2.4.9
[19:45] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: The whole address is PPA?
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  or open your sources editor and remove it from there
[19:46] <conroe> Is this possible: I have a box with three interfaces, one connected to 192.168.1.0 (with internet access) and two other connected to 192.168.2.0 and 192.168.3.0. Clients will be connecting from 192.168.1.0 and that routing is working fine, problem is when I try to bring up the interface connected to 192.168.1.0 as there already is a default gateway 192.168.2.1
[19:46] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: sorry for asking simple questions, how can I open source editor?
[19:48] <daftykins> rocketpenguin: yeah you didn't quite follow what i meant but nevermind, work with Doci for a solution, i'm out of ideas.
[19:48] <Doci> mojtaba: source editor as in text editor?
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  update manager > settings > other software
[19:48] <Doci> daftykins: we're about to find out whether it worked
[19:48] <daftykins> \o/
[19:48] <Beldar> mojtaba, An easy check is run 'software-properties-gtk' go to second tab and unmark the ppa, then run another update.
[19:48] <daftykins> Doci: so what did you install?
[19:48] <Doci> synaptic packman has this nice option "force package", just pick the previous version
[19:48] <halfburnttoast_> conroe, so you're routing the 192.168.1.0 to the other two networks, correct? For remote access from the 1.0 network to the other 2.0 and 3.0 networks?
[19:48] <Doci> 2.8 if mem serves
[19:49] <Beldar> mojtaba, This is the same gui MonkeyDust points to.
[19:49] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust:  Beldar: Thanks
[19:50] <Beldar> mojtaba, no prob, did not want to confuse this anymore than needed. ;)
[19:51] <kb3ien> any sign of ALPT these days?
[19:52] <darius12> Ubuntu Server 13.10 netinstall using nfs.  What are the correct kernel paramater for a TFTP/NFS installation?  Everything is working except for NFS for me.  Ubuntu documentation appears to be out of date on the subject
[19:52] <halfburnttoast_> conroe, if you get a chance, run 'route -v'
[19:52] <TeraJL> if you hover your mouse on the sound icon, and scroll left or right, when you scroll left the volume increases and right decreases, isn't it inversed? (i know it's just a small thing, but is there a reason for that? is this an actual bug?)
[19:52] <Doci> rocketpenguin: in case you want to try the same before knowing if it works for sure, install synaptic if you don't have it, and force version from fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle (back) to 2:8.960
[19:53] <Doci> brb reboot
[19:54] <conroe> halfburnttoast_, default gw 192.168.2.1
[19:55] <halfburnttoast_> can you override the default gateway?
[19:56] <halfburnttoast_> I think it's 'route del gw ...'
[19:57] <Doci> hooooooley fuck
[19:57] <Doci> well, in a way that worked....
[19:57] <Doci> but i guess i should also downgrade my gnome/gnome classic packages, because now i can work the rest of the day on getting my classic panels back
[19:58] <Doci> though i must say, it looks fancy
[19:58] <digs> Is there a channel that is primarly for ubuntu server support?
[19:58] <raymond_> hi all
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> digs  #ubuntu-server
[19:59] <Doci> false alarm, session switched to Gnome instead of Gnome-Classic
[19:59] <Doci> daftykins, rocketpenguin, version 2:8.960 did the trick. Gentlemen, thank you!
[20:00] <daftykins> Doci: can you share the now working /var/log/Xorg.0.log please for my benefit?
[20:01] <Doci> could try :)
[20:01] <Doci> stand by
[20:03] <Doci> http://p.blicky.net/47k9p
[20:03] <daftykins> ty sir
[20:03] <Doci> no, thank you, sir
[20:04] <daftykins> ^_^
[20:06] <jirido> I got a serious problem. I can login in console, but not to desktop.  .xsession-errors shows nothing.. If someone can give advice it would be much apreciated/ I ask for forgivnes for my bad english spelling
[20:07] <Doci> jirido: first things first, what is the output of "which lightdm" ?
[20:08] <Doci> if that works, try "sudo service lightdm restart"
[20:08] <jirido> /usr/sbin/lightdm
[20:09] <Doci> good
[20:09] <Doci> then try above command, it will supposedly start or restart your session manager
[20:12] <jirido> No it didn't help. I haave tried to reinstall policykit.. I have done a try to leave nvidia drivers to go to the open ones but in think there is still nvidia modules ghosting in the system
[20:12] <Doci> does "startx" do anything?
[20:12] <Kartagis> what's the fs path to a davs: webdisk?
[20:13] <jirido> it gives this :
[20:13] <jirido> http://pastebin.com/rcYvhBx2
[20:14] <nes> nes
[20:14] <nes>  do i get install help here?
[20:16] <jirido> I have purged nvidia 173 304 but still if i look in xorg log there is loaded some nvidia_drv.so
[20:18] <jirido> Doci: How do i check what nvidia drivers i still have installed. I uninstalled them on advice here because i wanted some suport and now relly seem to need it :)
[20:20] <zaitzev> so accessing a shared folder on windows 8.1 from ubuntu 13.10, not working as I hoped it would. Seems like it doesn't want to accept the username/password (which I know is correct)
[20:21] <jirido> You see it started with that nvidia settings did not start.. and that the resolusion could not be sett manually from xorg.conf
[20:22] <Mongo44> I am using vi and I can't save it because it says the read only option is set.
[20:23] <Kartagis> Mongo44: try :wq!
[20:24] <k1l> Mongo44: that depends on the file permissions? look at that first
[20:26] <Doci> jirido: i'm not really sure, actually
[20:26] <jirido> should i try to reinstall nvidia drivers and "remove" xorgs?
[20:26] <Doci> i usually consider it less work to do a clean install
[20:26] <Doci> is that an option for you?
[20:27] <Ozera> Can anyone help me with this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21587391/x-509-and-private-key-confusion ?
[20:27] <Beldar> zaitzev, What user/password exactly, more specific details needed.
[20:27] <Doci> a clean install for me takes about 35 minutes, solving a problem a few hours.
[20:28] <Beldar> zaitzev, specific install of both help, is one a vm?
[20:28] <jirido> I would like to know where it is written what drivers that is gona be loaded so i could choose. I used jokey-gtk to take away the old ones and install the rcomended ones.. aand now im been out of box a day.. and It's TeRRIBLe
[20:29] <jirido> Clean install you are joking..
[20:30] <halfburnttoast_> that depends on what you have your system doing
[20:30] <halfburnttoast_> for small servers or vms, reinstalling is usually faster
[20:30] <halfburnttoast_> but when you have to reload 500GB+ of backups, it kinda isnt
[20:30] <jirido> I'v installed programs and tweeked this for som year to be my good slave mashine
[20:30] <jirido> Its my main desktop
[20:30] <zaitzev> Beldar: Neither is a vm, Windows 8.1 on my desktop machine, and ubuntu on a laptop
[20:31] <Doci> jirido: i have all my data on a seperate disk, and a text file with the apt-get install command of all programs that i want
[20:31] <halfburnttoast_> i'm talking about huge system breaks too
[20:31] <Doci> it's of course your decision, i just brought it up because I consider it a viable solution
[20:31] <halfburnttoast_> not like dependency problems or something
[20:31] <jirido> Well i dont and this cant be so terible complicated..
[20:31] <zaitzev> Beldar: The username and password of the Windows user, which in 8.1 is the Windows Live account
[20:31] <Beldar> zaitzev, ah a network connect, does not that like seem relevant? I have no knowledge there.
[20:32] <jirido> I have grafic drivers loaded and just dont get in.. there must be some way to see what is going wrong..
[20:36] <souredfrog> cash n guns n shiz
[20:36] <Doci> xinit or lightdm usually do the trick
[20:36] <Doci> has it worked before btw?
[20:38] <Mongo44> Anyone know how to get Lubuntu to run in full resolution? I just deleted my vm because I was so upset with it.
[20:38] <jirido> Doci: yes all worked fine untill some days when nvidia settings stoped to work after some update
[20:38] <k1l> souredfrog: make sure you read the !guidelines when entering the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[20:38] <k1l> Mongo44: install guest additions on it
[20:39] <souredfrog> k1l, Thanks mate you rock
[20:39] <Somelauw> Hi, could someone tell me how to configure gtk. I tried manually editing gtrck2.0, but it wasn't succesful
[20:39] <jirido> bUT SOMEONE HERE MUST KNOW HOW TO SEARSH WHIT REGEXP/sorry/ in installed packages apt-cache search is all availible pkgs
[20:40] <Mongo44> It started in 1024x768 then it went down to 640x480.
[20:40] <Somelauw> I'm not using unity or gnome-shell btw.
[20:40] <Beldar> Somelauw, any ppa's involved?
[20:41] <JamieShepherd> Hokay, so basically, games open on the wrong monitor. I've set the RIGHT monitor as primary in nvidia settings etc., games always open on the left
[20:41] <JamieShepherd> regardless of whether i change round cables or whatever, always the left monitor
[20:41] <Somelauw> The gtk config is really confusing, because in .config there are both gtk2.0 and gtk3.0 folders and I don't even know which one I'm using
[20:41] <Somelauw> Beldar: no ppa's
[20:43] <jirido> Anyone? how to search in installed pakages, Im in console and cant google anything right now so let me be exused sucha googleable Q
[20:43] <JamieShepherd> Some official support channel
[20:43] <Beldar> Somelauw, be specific with the de, the more details the higher chance of there being help.
[20:43] <lickalott> dpkg -i get-selections i think
[20:44] <lickalott> lemme check jirido
[20:44] <Pici> jirido: dpkg -l | grep something
[20:44] <lickalott> dpkg --get-selections | grep NAMEHERE
[20:44] <jirido> OK ! i start there
[20:44] <lickalott> jirido, what is going on?
[20:44] <lickalott> are you tyring to purge the current nvidia drivers?
[20:45] <jirido> I need to uninstall all nvidias drivers i think
[20:45] <jirido> lickalott: yes
[20:45] <lickalott> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current
[20:45] <quidnunc> What is a good console utility to display disk space usage by directory?
[20:45] <lickalott> sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current
[20:45] <jirido> Ok
[20:45] <lickalott> then I'll get you a site.
[20:46] <Doci> jirido: via synaptic, packages > force > select older version
[20:46] <ianorlin> du can do that but I like ncdu more
[20:46] <Doci> ianorlin: did you just say ncdu?
[20:46] <ianorlin> yes
[20:46] <Doci> author was a classmate of mine :P
[20:46] <lickalott> jirido, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/01/install-nvidia-driver-331-38-ubuntu/
[20:47] <chemist^> quidnunc, http://askubuntu.com/questions/1224/how-can-i-determine-a-folders-size-from-the-command-line
[20:47] <dibow> I installed unity in ubuntu studio. Im not seeing the option to use it. What do I do???
[20:47] <lickalott> BL:  You'll have to log out, alt+ctrl+F1 then kill lightdm install the latest driver (Choose yes to 32 libs) then restart.  And you should be good.
[20:47] <chemist^> dibow, you choose it when on logon screen
[20:47] <Doci> dibow: install gnome-panel. forget about unity. live happy
[20:47] <chemist^> login*
[20:48] <Somelauw_> Does ubuntu use gtk2 or gtk3 and how to configure gtk?
[20:48] <jirido> lickalott: I dont have nvidia-current installed
[20:48] <quidnunc> chemist^: No, I want the whole hierarchy recursively
[20:48] <chemist^> dibow just logout and choose a different desktop enviroment
[20:48] <jirido> lickalott: Im in consoleso i cant brows just right now
[20:48] <dibow> chemist^, i do not see it in my login window
[20:49] <chemist^> dibom it's the little circle near your username, click on it
[20:49] <lickalott> wait 1
[20:49] <lickalott> can i pm you?
[20:49] <chemist^> dibow, it should list all available DE
[20:49] <dibow> chemist^, ill look again brb
[20:50] <chemist^> quidnunc, sorry didn't understand your earlier question correctly
[20:50] <lickalott> jirido, pm?
[20:50] <jirido> ~yes
[20:50] <jirido> i dont know really what that is but yes i think so if its not to perverse
[20:50] <Pici> quidnunc: I really like ncdu
[20:52] <lickalott> private message.  LOL
[20:52] <jirido> Ok
[20:53] <lickalott> you get it/
[20:53] <lickalott> ?
[20:53] <jirido> do i notis and have to do some thing?
[20:53] <lickalott> look for a flashing or highlighted window/tab from lickalott
[20:54] <dibow> chemist^, thanks for making me take another look.
[20:55] <dibow> Im computer illiterate may need assistance from you peeps again
[21:06] <Doci> ty & gn
[21:12] <chamunks> So I accidentally selected move to trash for my entire desktop folder.
[21:12] <chamunks> It refuses to restore now.
[21:12] <chamunks> I know the files are there where do I locate them on the device so that I can just manually move it myself.
[21:14] <chamunks> Nvm got it.
[21:14] <phil-ns> can't you just use a terminal and open nautilus or thunar?
[21:17] <tapout> when i maximize a window, for some reason it doesn't take into account the 32 pixel high taskbar at the bottom. So i'm always missing the bottom part of any application window.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[21:17] <apz665> Hello everyone
[21:19] <Nasuka> tapout what taskbar are you using?
[21:19] <tapout> whatever came with razorqt
[21:20] <apz665> when and how does apt-cacher-ng update its cache? I mean how would it know that there is a newer version of a particular package available whenever client does a apt-get update
[21:20] <katnegermis> Is there a way that I can create a shortcut to focus the x'th window in the taskbar? Just like I would use alt+1 to focus the first tab in my browser.
[21:21] <tapout> Nasuka, is there a way to probe it to see what they're using?
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> katnegermis: hold the super key
[21:21] <Nasuka> what de is this?
[21:21] <tapout> openbox
[21:21] <tapout> or whatever
[21:22] <Nasuka> tint2?
[21:22] <raving> Hello everybody. We are running Ubuntu Server 12.04 and have recently run into an issue with inodes being orphaned. Is anybody aware of any system packages in the core distribution that are known to leave file descriptors open indefinitely?
[21:23] <katnegermis> hitsujiTMO, Thank you!
[21:23] <jirido> Hi i try to install a driver from comande as i cant get in to DM and need to shut down X without it restarting.. Do anyone know how?
[21:24] <jirido> It keeps poping up like a Zombie!
[21:24] <hitsujiTMO> tapout: if you're using it with openbox, then in the openbox config manager you set edge margins
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: sudo service lightdm restart
[21:25] <tapout> the full desktop environment is RazorQT
[21:25] <tapout> it's using openbox as the window manager
[21:25] <jirido> But then it restarts
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: ahh stop x altogether? sudo service lightdm stop
[21:25] <Bashing-om> jirido: Unity as the DE ? -> sudo service lightdm stop <- .
[21:26] <Somelauw> Hi, I have a Radeon HD8670M and I'm using the fglrx drivers. Has anyone found a way to change the resolution in linux to 1920*1080?
[21:26] <jirido> I Yes!!
[21:26] <cthulhu318> exit
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> Somelauw: is it not detecting your monitor resolution?
[21:27] <Somelauw> hitsujiTMO: It is detecting the wrong one
[21:28] <tg2> anybody know how to purge the device driver cache on ubuntu?
[21:28] <hitsujiTMO> Somelauw: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[21:28] <tg2> ie: i have "ghost" devices that are no longer connected but getting driver assigned to them
[21:28] <Somelauw> hitsujiTMO: because everything looks to big
[21:29] <hitsujiTMO> tg2: what type of devices are you talking about? sounds a little weird. you could maybe try blacklisting the driver?
[21:30] <tg2> i dont want to blacklist it
[21:30] <tg2> device: pci-e
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> tg2: and is the device showing up in lspci?
[21:31] <tg2> yes
[21:31] <tg2> in the proper amount of devices
[21:31] <tg2> but in lsmod, I am seeing 40+ occurrances of the driver
[21:31] <tg2> every time I move the card to another pci-e slot, it adds another occurance
[21:32] <tg2> on a fresh install, it shows the proper amount of devices on the driver
[21:32] <tg2> but it is a long and arduous process installing 13.12 drivers on 13.10
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> tg2: what type of device exactly? there may be some persistence file involved
[21:32] <tg2> fglrx - ati driver
[21:32] <tg2> i did dpkg -r
[21:33] <hitsujiTMO> tg2: ahh, is it defined too many times in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[21:34] <tg2> no i deleted that
[21:34] <tg2> and reinitialized
[21:34] <Somelauw> hitsujiTMO:  I followed the instructions. When I did xrandr --addmode S-video 1920x1080_60. it said cannot find output S-video
[21:34] <hitsujiTMO> Somelauw: ahh svideo. that doesn't support such high resolutions
[21:35] <elichai2> i've ubuntu and i installed LXDE and i now want to know how to completely remove the default environment
[21:35] <hitsujiTMO> Somelauw: svideo only support SD not HD resolutions
[21:35] <SvenOostenbrink> I installed ATI driver 13.12, but its not working and I need to try 14.1 beta.. in order to install the 14.1 beta, I need to uninstall the 13.12 but when I try that I get the error "AMD Catalyst(TM) Proprietary Driver Uninstall is corrupt.  Uninstall script 'fglrx-uninstall.sh' is missing."  Now, how can I get 14.1 installed??
[21:35] <Somelauw> hitsujiTMO: ok, so what to do?
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> !purexubntu | SvenOostenbrink
[21:36] <tg2> SvenOostenbrink
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> !purexubuntu | SvenOostenbrink
[21:36] <tg2> did you use dpkg to install 13.12
[21:36] <jirido> hitsujiTMO  i try to install the latest Nvidia driver on recomendation from a guy here but it says it dont support my gpu (7300 gt) but offer to install any way.. will this be a dead projekt or does it have some fallback system? i dont play games.
[21:36] <SvenOostenbrink> MonkeyDust: ? What has Xubunto to do with this?
[21:36] <elichai2> anyone?
[21:36] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> Somelauw: not sure id everything is coming up so big. svideo is kinda an old tech at this stage
[21:36] <jirido> I mean computor games..!
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> SvenOostenbrink  make that !purelubuntu, i mistyped
[21:37] <elichai2> ubuntu environment is gnome or unity?
[21:37] <SvenOostenbrink> tg2: No, I followed a tutorial which said to just use the installer
[21:37] <ikonia> unity
[21:37] <SvenOostenbrink> !purelubuntu
[21:37] <fieranna> elichai2: ubuntu's default is unity
[21:37] <elichai2> someone?
[21:37] <SvenOostenbrink> MonkeyDust: My problem is that I cannot uninstall the ATI iffucuak driver..
[21:37] <ikonia> elichai2: someone what ?
[21:38] <elichai2> fieranna, so if i want to fully move to LXDE so run this command is safe?
[21:38] <elichai2> sudo apt-get purge unity unity-asset-pool unity-services 'unity-lens-.*' 'unity-scope-.*'  unity-common 'libunity.*' unity-greeter 'unity-webapps-.*' xul-ext-unity
[21:38] <mitesh> sudo apt-get install libboost1.53-all-dev package not located
[21:38] <tg2>  dpkg -r fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev
[21:38] <tg2> do that
[21:38] <tg2> it willr emove them
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> SvenOostenbrink  it was for elichai2 , you both started a phrase with 'i installed'w
[21:38] <ikonia> elichai2: what do you mean "is it safe" it will remove what you just told it to
[21:38] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: jirido 304 is the latest for that gpu
[21:38] <fieranna> fieranna: no idea, dont know what you were told to run. but you can remove unity without breaking ubuntu. i just cant tell if what you were told will do it. :-)
[21:39] <fieranna> elichai2: Sorry that last one was for you!
[21:39] <elichai2> ikonia, idk i got this command online and i'm afraid it will uninstall important packages
[21:39] <ikonia> elichai2: why are you running it ?
[21:39] <mitesh> not able to install libboost1.53-all-dev package
[21:39] <ikonia> elichai2: for what purpose
[21:39] <SvenOostenbrink> MonkeyDust: ok, np
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: which did you install? 319?
[21:39] <elichai2> for get rid of all the spare packages after i moved to lxde
[21:40] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: but if i install that from apt will it overtake everything else , like nouevoue and other old grafic drivers or do i have to set it someware /331
[21:40] <SvenOostenbrink>  dpkg -r fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev is only for the .deb packages.. this is the official AMD/ATI driver which is just an installer without packages..
[21:40] <ikonia> elichai2: why not just leave them if you are in any doubt, they will not cause a problem
[21:40] <ikonia> elichai2: or re-install using lubuntu
[21:40] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: and i did not install it yet!
[21:40] <fieranna> elichai2: did oyu consider a lubuntu install? that has lxde from the start. If you are not short on disk space, no need to remove unity.
[21:41] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: yes it will blacklist nouveau. if you're not doing anything graphically intensive then nouveau shoulsd be good enough
[21:41] <fieranna> elichai2: If you've got something like an ultrabook with a 16GB SSD, then sure, you'd want to remove Unity if you weren't using it
[21:41] <elichai2> fieranna, i have this ubuntu for a long time so i don't want to start backing up....
[21:41] <ikonia> that doesn't make sense
[21:41] <fieranna> elichai2: Yes you do, everyone should have a backup
[21:41] <ikonia> if you've had it for a long time that is a BIG reason to back up
[21:41] <fieranna> elichai2: what would happen if you dropped the laptop?
[21:42] <elichai2> fieranna, yeah but i don't want to mess with restoring :(
[21:42] <fieranna> elichai2: Well if you are not short on disk space, no need to remove
[21:42] <ikonia> but you'll risk your machine removing packages you don't understand....
[21:42] <threesome> Hi, what is the default GTK 2.0 theme in Ubuntu 13.10 (Unity)?
[21:43] <elichai2> ikonia, this is why i asked here, there is no official list of packages that are part of the environment?
[21:43] <OerHeks> elichai2, before trying to remove unity, i would backup for sure.
[21:43] <elichai2> cause when i google it i find weird things like this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> threesome: ambiance is the default theme
[21:43] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: i think i have that in already but since i uninstalled nvidia i cant get in to my Desktop.. And xorg.0.log says it loads some nvidia_drv.so still
[21:43] <fieranna> elichai2: Yes there is, but seriously, why are you removing stuff if you aren't short on space?
[21:44] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: can you pastebin the output of: dmesg
[21:44] <SvenOostenbrink> tg2: dpkg -r fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev is only for the .deb packages.. this is the official AMD/ATI driver which is just an installer without packages..
[21:44] <threesome> hitsujiTMO: Is that for GTK 2 and for GTK 3, or are there separate default themes for each?
[21:44] <elichai2> fieranna, i'm short of space, i've ,multi boot OS
[21:44] <jirido> ok
[21:44] <ikonia> elichai2: please post the output of df -h in a pastebin please.
[21:44] <milamber> !unity | threesome
[21:44] <gordonjcp> you know what the absolute number one cause of hard disk failures is?
[21:44] <gordonjcp> without a doubt?
[21:44] <fieranna> elichai2: OK, I didn't know that. That's a good reason to remove. I dual boot on a 16GB SSD and I'm also really low on it.
[21:44] <elichai2> and i want to make my machine clean from unnecessary packages to make it faster
[21:44] <milamber> threesome: unity is gnome 3, not gnome 2
[21:44] <ikonia> elichai2: that won't make it faster
[21:45] <gordonjcp> the absolute number one cause of hard disk failures is saying "I don't need to back up"
[21:45] <brucelee> i just apt-get snmpd and snmp, but when i do snmpwalk on itself, it returns very few entries. doesnt it come with all the MIB-2 OIDs?
[21:45] <fieranna> elichai2: speed will not be affected; however space will be
[21:45] <hitsujiTMO> threesome: ls -l /usr/share/themes/Ambiance   shows gtk02.0 gtk-3.0 unity and metacity themes
[21:45] <ikonia> elichai2: please post the output of df -h in a pastebin please.
[21:45] <sudormrf> hey guys.  quick question.  when I use "connect to server" and select windows share and enter the appropriate information I can get where I need to go, however if I type smb://servername it says the share can't be found.  I believe this is a client side issue, but is anyone around to help me verify?
[21:45] <elichai2> ikonia, yes it will, the more space Available mean faster OS
[21:45] <ikonia> elichai2: no it doesn't
[21:45] <ikonia> elichai2: please post the output of df -h in a pastebin please.
[21:45] <threesome> milamber: if im running an application like firefox, doesn't that require gtk2 theme (not 3)?
[21:46] <elichai2> here: http://pastebin.com/Y7usedx9
[21:46] <fieranna> elichai2: The disk space won't noticably affect speed. This isn't FAT32.
[21:46] <elichai2> ikonia, yes it is, especially after i will defrag my drive
[21:46] <ikonia> elichai2: you should not do anything as you are just saying things that are wrong
[21:46] <fieranna> elichai2: You defrag ext3 or ext4?
[21:47] <elichai2> i never did it before, but why not?
[21:47] <ikonia> elichai2: defrag your hard disk ??? you don't do that on ext journaled file systems
[21:47] <fieranna> elichai2: There's little reason to defrag unless you are installed on FAT32 or something?
[21:47] <ikonia> elichai2: you'll break your system thats why not
[21:47] <elichai2> no i'm installed on ext3
[21:47] <threesome> ubottu: im not using gnome or unity but id like to use the gtk theme that unity had for all my apps like firefox, thunderbird, etc. do you know how i can do this?
[21:47] <milamber> threesome: not sure what you mean
[21:47] <ikonia> elichai2: ext3 is the same - I said "ext journaled file systems"
[21:47] <ikonia> elichai2: that's ext3 and 4
[21:48] <ikonia> and 2 really
[21:48] <fieranna> elichai2: I have less space than you, i dont defrag. it's ext4 but ext3 is the same. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6881665/
[21:48] <zeeshan> what's the proper way to not use the nouveau driver and use vesa driver
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> zeeshan: why?
[21:49] <fieranna> elichai2: a lot of computing "lore" like defrag comes from the windows ecosystem which has different technology. don't really defrag ext3.
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> zeeshan: why would you want to use vesa?
[21:49] <Somelauw> Some questions. What happened to gksudo?
[21:49] <zeeshan> cause it keeps on freezing on me
[21:49] <zeeshan> and i want to use the generic vesa driver
[21:50] <threesome> milamber: I'm not using gnome or unity, but i'd like to get the gtk theme that they use. i changed my GTK3 theme in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini but that didn't update the way firefox looked. for that I had to update ~/.gtkrc-2.0. Which gtk theme do i need to use to get things to look more like they did in Unity?
[21:50] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: Im in console and cant copy paste werry well as screen only copy paste 1 creen a time but i piped it to cat that sended it to a file.. If you can say the irc commands to sent it to you, i'll do that
[21:50] <hitsujiTMO> zeeshan: vesa is used for backup only. its not a usable driver
[21:50] <SvenOostenbrink> fieranna: 12 years with ext filesystems and I have never defragged or had the need to.. ext is designed as to not having to really need that..
[21:50] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit
[21:50] <zeeshan> hitsujiTMO: what can i do then? :{
[21:50] <sudormrf> the issue I am having is that I can use "connect to server" to connect to my server just fine.  I select "windows share" and enter the info and I can connect.  is there a way I can bookmark this location using the command line?  I was thinking .gtk-bookmarks.  would that be the right path?
[21:51] <hitsujiTMO> zeeshan: what gpu do you have?
[21:51] <fieranna> SvenOostenbrink: yea I agree! please help convince elichai2 ;-)
[21:51] <jirido> ok
[21:51] <zeeshan> a cheap pci card geforce fx5200
[21:51] <zeeshan> Feb  5 15:20:06 zeeshan-CNC kernel: [  467.947900] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:02.0: PFIFO_DMA_PUSHER - Ch 1 <---- this is the last line before i had to do a hard reboot
[21:51] <zeeshan> i can move my mouse btw
[21:51] <zeeshan> but i can't click on anything nor can i ctrl+alt+f1 to the terminal
[21:52] <hitsujiTMO> zeeshan: not even covered by nvidia legacy :( ... you have no choice but to use nouveau
[21:53] <SvenOostenbrink> fieranna: Sorry, sent it to the wrong person.. Anyway, he's gone
[21:53] <jirido>  hitsujiTMO  :)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6881700/
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: 304 is still being loaded. dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: sorry: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[21:55] <quidnunc> Pici: Thanks, I had just found it
[21:56] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6881714/
[21:57] <hitsujiTMO> zeeshan: actually sorry, thats supported by nvidia-173
[21:57] <zeeshan> http://pastebin.com/NTfbYJrR
[21:57] <zeeshan> i see those messages.
[21:58] <zeeshan> i can only use the computer for 2 minutes before it freezes
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> zeeshan: try the 173 driver
[21:58] <Scubar> Hi
[21:58] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: is there a script to se this pastes in Scubar Hi
[21:58] <jirido> Sorry for the jibbrich
[21:59] <Scubar> could someone give me a hand setting up a bridged connection as my static ip config isnt listed in the interfaces file :|
[21:59] <zeeshan> hitsujiTMO: i think the autodetect picks up that version
[21:59] <zeeshan> let me try installing it
[21:59] <elichai2> :( i guess i had disconnected without my notice
[21:59] <elichai2> what the last thing u see i wrote?
[22:00] <naxa> man says "ufw allow 53" would "allow tcp and udp port 53 to any address on this host". does this mean that anyone on the whole word can connect on port 53 to my machine?
[22:00] <fieranna> elichai2: 3 people telling you "this isn't windows, don't defrag"
[22:00] <elichai2> ohhh lol
[22:00] <elichai2> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/10/defragmenting-linux-ext3-filesystems.html
[22:00] <ikonia> let him wreck his machine
[22:00] <ikonia> it's fine
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:00] <tg2> TIL pastebinit
[22:00] <elichai2> why ext3 dosen't need defrag?
[22:00] <ikonia> elichai2: follow random links off the internet even when advised not to, it's clear you don't want to listen to experience.
[22:01] <elichai2> ikonia, ok sorry you right ext dosen't need to be defrag sorry
[22:01] <elichai2> now back to the topic :)
[22:01] <elichai2> account-plugin is part of unity?
[22:01] <fieranna> elichai2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[22:02] <elichai2> i mean i found this commands and i want to know if it won't remove anything not-related to unity: http://blogs.operationaldynamics.com/paul/opensource/not-unified-removing-unity-from-ubuntu-12-04-lts#the-actual-juice
[22:02] <jirido> hitsujiTMO:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6881769/ you are effective like a helping mashine!
[22:03] <ikonia> elichai2: just leave the files in place if you're in any doubt
[22:03] <ikonia> elichai2: it's not doing any harm, you're not dead on disk space, and even if you are, removing this won't remove that much
[22:03] <ikonia> so look at saving space elsewhere
[22:05] <elichai2> ikonia, i'm not feeling good with having packages that i don't need :(
[22:05] <ikonia> why ?
[22:05] <ikonia> what is the problem ?
[22:06] <jirido> ikonia: maybe elichai2 has digital anorexia
[22:06] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: ok, the xorg suggests 2 possible causes for the error, you've a custom resolution set in xorg.conf that it cannot support, or its defaulting to an odd resolution that it cannot support as it cant read the monitors edid data.
[22:06] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:07] <elichai2> jirido, thats it :) i like my system clean
[22:07] <ikonia> it is clean
[22:07] <ikonia> a package you are not using does not make it "dirty"
[22:07] <elichai2> yes but i'm feeling like i have "Ask" and "Bing" programs in windows
[22:08] <ikonia> then you are feeling wrong
[22:08] <ikonia> and need to get over it
[22:09] <swatson> Lol
[22:09] <raving> \quit
[22:09] <raving> \exit
[22:09] <raving> \part
[22:09] <achpile> Hi all =) Does anybody know, how to specify folder which dropbox uses to store screenshots?
[22:09] <ubuntuaddicted> confused on how to install the guest additions for vbox. do i run the iso in my host OR within the vm after it's fired up?
[22:10] <hitsujiTMO> /quit raving
[22:10] <Jordan_U> elichai2: First, 1: I agree that having extra packages doesn't really hurt anything 2: This guide has not been updated for 13.10 and thus will be problematic if you're using 13.10 3: Please read the preface to this guide completely. All that said, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/tag/pure-lubuntu/
[22:10] <swatson> I actually know how elichai2  feels
[22:10] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: in the guest
[22:10] <ikonia> hence "guest additionas"
[22:10] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, ok thanks for clarifying.
[22:10] <swatson> I dont like having a ton of packages I dont use on my system.
[22:10] <swatson> Keep it clean and neat.
[22:11] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, well, the host has a guest on it so I wasn't sure if installing the guest additions on the host allowed the guest extra capabilities
[22:11] <ikonia> again, it's not "drity" or "messy"
[22:11] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: I see your confusion
[22:11] <emx> i get these kinds of errors lately without changing any configuration. the messages appear in the console when playing a film with mplayer: [   vdpau] Error when calling vdp_output_surface_destroy: An invalid handle value was provided.
[22:11] <emx> any help?
[22:11] <elichai2> Jordan_U, thats the thing, i thought about installing debian+lxde but then i realized that maybe it won't give me much more than just installing lxde without reinstall the distro (and messing with all my data)
[22:12] <ikonia> elichai2: how can you say that, I said "install lubuntu" and you said "no as you don't want to restore" - so why is it ok to do debian + lxde ?
[22:12] <ikonia> it's a moving target
[22:12] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: My screens real resolution is 1366x768 but it never comes up as an option.. Then for some reason it started to mix in 1024x something.. and nvidia settings started to not work anymore.. and now i cant log in!! crazy..
[22:12] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, now all of a sudden only the clicking the middle mouse button acts like the clicking the left. lol
[22:13] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, i don't know what i pressed to accidentally do this
[22:13] <Jordan_U> ikonia: As implied by their last comment, re-installing is not preffered in either case as it requires "messing with all my data".
[22:13] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6881819/ this is for 1xorg.conf as i moved it to some reboot ago.. as i thought it would help
[22:13] <ikonia> Jordan_U: right, but then blindly removing packages and hoping for the best is not really a good option
[22:13] <elichai2> ikonia, in start i thought to install debian+lxde but then i realized it won't really help to speed up my laptop so i gave up on it (because i don't want to start messing with restoring)
[22:14] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: just because.. yes to get rid of this settings
[22:14] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: you need to have an xorg.conf for nvidia. if you moved it set a new one with: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:15] <k1l> elichai2: seems you got alot of microsoft windows habbits there when you think not used packages slow the system down and that Filesystems need to be defraged
[22:15] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, now pressing any mouse button doesn't do anything within the VM
[22:15] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: why are you telling me?
[22:15] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, i'm asking how to enable mouse again in my VM guest
[22:15] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: I have no idea what you've done, or how you have it configured.
[22:16] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, it's virtualbox from the oracle website. all default
[22:16] <Jordan_U> elichai2: You can re-install while preserving the contents of /home/, which for most users contains all of their important data.
[22:16] <monst> Hello, anyone experienced in multipath setup? Having issues getting my links all under the same policy.
[22:16] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: so thats' not from the ubuntu repos
[22:16] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: so I have no idea how YOU have configurd it
[22:16] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: this is the new one.. should i reboot? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6881839/
[22:16] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, is there a way to tell if it's frozen
[22:16] <elichai2> Jordan_U, but i got it all in the same partition
[22:16] <ikonia> monst: sure thing, what's up
[22:16] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, oh ok
[22:16] <k1l> elichai2: install lubuntu-desktop package. after that you can remove unity, but be aware that some depencies could be remeoved that will make trouble
[22:16] <Jordan_U> elichai2: Ubuntu's installer supports preserving /home/ even when it's not on a separate partition.
[22:16] <monst> awesome ikonia, let me pastbin
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: yup reboot, then we'll try and fix the resolution
[22:17] <jirido> hitsujiTMO:  did i have the right nvidia drivers installed
[22:17] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: yup
[22:17] <jirido> !!
[22:17] <jirido> rebooot
[22:17] <monst> ikonia: http://paste.openstack.org/raw/62678/
[22:18] <ikonia> monst: what's the problem there ?
[22:18] <monst> so it seems to have my 4 paths in different policies instead of just one
[22:18] <monst> http://pastebin.com/ywXDnYXd
[22:18] <ikonia> monst: the policy looks the same, "round-robin 0"
[22:19] <monst> Basically it doesn't round robin between the links
[22:19] <monst> i only see throughput down one link
[22:19] <ikonia> monst: looks like it is
[22:19] <ikonia> monst: how are yo umonitoring it ?
[22:19] <monst> new relic
[22:19] <ikonia> monst: you only appear to have one link marked as active though
[22:19] <Douhan> Can someone help me, I added a PPA to sources.list but apt-get still can't find the items in that repo
[22:19] <ikonia> the others are enabled but not active
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: what repo?
[22:20] <monst> ikonia: we just got it working..!
[22:20] <Douhan> I tried adding the PPA to the sources.list.d directory
[22:20] <ikonia> monst: how ?
[22:20] <Douhan> https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5?field.series_filter=precise
[22:20] <ikonia> monst: what did you change ?
[22:20] <monst> now it looks like this
[22:20] <monst> http://paste.openstack.org/show/62679/
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: did you apt-grt update first?
[22:20] <monst> which is under one plociy
[22:20] <Douhan> Yes I did many times
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get update
[22:21] <demophobia> How do I swap entire workspaces, like move 4 to 1 and 1 to 4?
[22:21] <k1l> Douhan: use add-apt-repository
[22:21] <Douhan> When I do "apt-cache showpkg php-apcu" I get: "N: Unable to locate package php-apcu"
[22:21] <ikonia> monst: that paste isn't loading
[22:21] <demophobia> or can i only drop windows within workspaces?
[22:21] <k1l> Douhan: did you run a apt-get update?
[22:21] <ikonia> monst: ahh loaded now
[22:21] <Douhan> k1l: I used this command: "add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php5" then I did "apt-get update"
[22:21] <monst> see how there under one policy?
[22:21] <ikonia> monst: I think there is confusing wording here
[22:21] <monst> we had to reconfigure twice to get it to take
[22:21] <Douhan> Ok wait I'll add it pastebin
[22:22] <ikonia> monst: you had them under one policy before, however you actually wanted them in the same policy group
[22:22] <ikonia> and now they are all active
[22:22] <ikonia> which is good
[22:23] <demophobia> In Mac one can rearrange the entire workspace, like moving boxes around. Can that be done in Ubuntu, or can I only move their contents and select which one to view?
[22:23] <monst> Ah yes!
[22:23] <monst> bad wording on my part
[22:23] <monst> starting throughput testing again
[22:23] <ikonia> monst: not a problem, I see what you actually meant as soon as I saw the others where not active, only enabled
[22:24] <elichai2> ok i've found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity and i just runned the 12.04 command
[22:24] <Douhan> k1l: hitsujiTMO Here http://pastebin.com/gHdU3Tp1
[22:24] <swatson> demophobia: I would recommend looking at a tiling window manager like awesome, dwm, or i3 -- this might have what you are looking for and more
[22:26] <Douhan> Btw I'm logged in as root
[22:26] <snardbafulador> feces
[22:26] <Douhan> so no need for sudo
[22:26] <snardbafulador> caca
[22:26] <snardbafulador> mierda
[22:26] <snardbafulador> shit
[22:26] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: Here i am again.. the driver seem to load ok my both screens are there.. but they were before also.. The reason i wanted to install the new drivers were that after i used jockey-gtk to remove nvidias drivers(that were obviously not done) and installed the "recomended) i could not login to my desktop.. So all this with trying to install nvidia 33 304 purge 304 purge 173 and so on has been a atempt to get in to my desktop..
[22:26] <snardbafulador> sscheisse
[22:26] <snardbafulador> heces fecales
[22:27] <demophobia> thank you. i suppose in the meantime i may try to adjust to "fixed workspaces" ...
[22:27] <snardbafulador> la cagalera
[22:27] <snardbafulador> cerotes
[22:27] <xerror> hi all :-) which one to pic as livecd/usb : aplha2 or dailybuilt 14.04 ?
[22:28] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: It started with that i when asked for help in #lubuntu when nvidia settings did not start got the advice to remove nvidia drivers..
[22:28] <zeeshan> hitsujiTMO: thanks for your help
[22:28] <zeeshan> hitsujiTMO: changing to the nvidia driver fixed the freezes
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> zeeshan: np
[22:29] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: are you able to get onto the desktop now?
[22:29] <jirido> no. only to the console
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: does lightdm or whatever dm come up?
[22:30] <Bashing-om> xerror: Version 14.04 is still in testing, and not released to this time. If you have to ask that, perhaps better if you remain with a current version ?
[22:31] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: yes i get to the login where i can choose from dm's and user and so on
[22:31] <crinkle> I'm having trouble with dual displays. I have a desktop with an nvidia graphics card. The display is mirroring on both monitors, but the resolution is wrong in the wider monitor. The Displays dialog claims there is only one monitor and that it is a "Laptop". The Detect Displays button does nothing, and the Mirror displays checkbox is grayed out and unchecked.
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: but when you login it kicks you back to the login screen?
[22:31] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: but it is no diference what dm.. Yes right!
[22:31] <xerror> Bashing-om: thank you, but i just want to test a particular part, the cardreader of a netxtreme chip, the newer woukld v be the better.
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: ok: first try: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[22:32] <jirido> My .xsession-errors were 650000 rows :) so i deleted it
[22:32] <Bashing-om> xerror: the "dailybuild" is what is current and being examined.
[22:33] <Douhan> hitsuji can you help please?
[22:33] <xerror> Bashing-om: thank you very much ! (-:
[22:34] <Bashing-om> xerror: Best to ya, remember 14.04 is in testing, expect breakage.
[22:34] <Somelauw> Hi, to get the livecd to work, I needed to remove nomodeset. Do I still need to do that since I already got the propierty drivers installed?
[22:34] <demophobia> Do ubuntu developers hang out here to look at questions to evaluate pressing software improvements?
[22:34] <k1l> demophobia: no, file a bug
[22:34] <xerror> Bashing-om: i will, ty, have fun
[22:34] <jirido> huttan: should i substitute user with my jirido?
[22:35] <k1l> !bug | demophobia
[22:35] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list && cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit
[22:35] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: That depends on where you used the "nomodeset" option: /etc/default/grub ??
[22:36] <nightfly> Is there any easy way to whitelist only a few Unity Smart Scopes at a system wide level?
[22:36] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: SUCSESS!
[22:37] <Douhan> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/gHdU3Tp1 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6881917/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6881918/
[22:37] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | jirido
[22:38] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: grub.cfg
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: most likely you ran a graphical app with sudo which forced an important file to be owned by root rather than your user. use gksudo for graphical apps
[22:38] <aclffrd> hi, i've been struggling to figure out what is causing a high load number when idle - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6881924/
[22:38] <jirido> Yes! thank you.. it is a litele wierd resolutions .. i se if i get nvidia settings up.. yes i did!
[22:39] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: That file should not be edited, will suppose that the option is present in /etc/default/grub. pastebin ->cat /etc/default/grub >- for us to see.
[22:40] <jirido>  i wanted to se film in consolle so i run sudo mplayer -vo blabla resolution 1024.. It had to be sudo to work! I tried to tell that in the beginning of my suport search.. but you know..
[22:40] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: the option appears there as well
[22:40] <jirido> hitsujiTMO:  i wanted to se film in consolle so i run sudo mplayer -vo blabla resolution 1024.. It had to be sudo to work! I tried to tell that in the beginning of my suport search.. but you know..
[22:41] <k1l> Douhan: you got 2 sources.list.d entries for that ppa?
[22:41] <Douhan> no one is .save
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: :)
[22:41] <Douhan> one is .list other one is .list.save
[22:41] <Somelauw> but I'm really having trouble changing my resolution using glrfx and all commands like fglrxinfo are failing
[22:41] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: it was lovelu thou to se film in console
[22:41] <demophobia> Ah, such is more efficient. Thanks, k1l.
[22:41] <demophobia> G'night.
[22:41] <Douhan> apt-get ignores every file except .list
[22:41] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: yep, one may edit /etc/default/grub ( make backup first), remove that option. then -> sudo update-grub <- to take effect.
[22:42] <Douhan> k1l: http://puu.sh/6LmAJ.png
[22:43] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: reasonable that fglrx is non responsive, as "nomodeset" disables Kernel Mode Setting .
[22:43] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: not sure if nomodeset is the problem
[22:43] <Douhan> .save file is created by add-apt-repo I think
[22:43] <k1l> Douhan: ok, then i dont know why that doesnt work. can you install the package with apt-get install?
[22:43] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: I'll use the grub minimal editor to test it
[22:43] <Somelauw> I heard that options specified using grub minimal editor aren't persistent
[22:44] <Douhan> No I can't, I even tried with =version like this: "apt-get install php-apcu=4.0.2-2+debphp.org~precise+1"
[22:44] <Somelauw> so that should be completely safe
[22:44] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: what architecture is this? is this on an arm device?
[22:44] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i just got a new lenovo laptop i am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 but it is only giving me three boot options windows boot manager efi network 0 and efi network 0 what can i do?!
[22:44] <Psil0Cybin> do i change bios settings to legacy?
[22:45] <Psil0Cybin> it has a cd drive
[22:45] <Psil0Cybin> and usb drives wth
[22:45] <Douhan> This is a Linode VPS, I configured it as 64-bit
[22:45] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: What one procedure to do, is from grub boot paramaters, boot with "nomodeset" and once in the desk top, ->Additional Drivers utility to install the recommended driver (??).
[22:45] <Psil0Cybin> usb boot is enabled in bios, i am confused why i cannot actually boot from usb
[22:45] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: I already got that driver
[22:45] <Somelauw> but I'm not sure if it got enabled
[22:46] <raub> Dumb question: I create a gpg key in a box (12.04). How do I "move" it so I can use it in another vm?
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: wget http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php5/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php-apcu/php5-apcu_4.0.2-2+debphp.org~precise+1_amd64.deb
[22:46] <Douhan> Can I get updates if I do that?
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: wget it first at least. see if you have a propper route to the server
[22:47] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: if that "nomodeset" is still in /etc/default/grub, - did you reboot after installing the fglrx driver ? else then yeah must manually remove "nomodeset" .. what card are we talking about here ?
[22:47] <Douhan> Ok downloaded it
[22:48] <Oog_> anyone have ideas on why sendmail is outputting nothing in mail.log or mail.err even with loglevel 9 and 15...? rsyslog is running. i checked rsyslog conf it is sending mail logs to mail.log and mail.err. sendmail is running
[22:48] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: according to lspci, I'm using this driver: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[22:48] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: i did reboot
[22:48] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: Radeon hd 8670M
[22:48] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: ok, not a routing issue. apt-cache policy php5-acpu
[22:49] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: ok, not a routing issue. apt-cache policy php5-acpu | pastebinit
[22:49] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys I am trying to install ubuntu on a UEFI System and am Having trouble booting up a live CD or getting any OS instead of windows to be recognized
[22:49] <Psil0Cybin> how can I boot linux on my new lenovo.
[22:49] <Douhan> hitsujiTMO: I couldn't pastebin (it gave an error), "N: Unable to locate package php5-acpu"
[22:49] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: yuk ! Intel does not recognize that option. Edit the grub file and get rid of it !. also fglrx is an ATI product, NOT Intel ! What gives ?
[22:50] <Douhan> apt-get just doesn't see my PPA as a source :/
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: ok: apt-cache policy php5 | pastebinit
[22:50] <k1l> Douhan: without the 5, imho
[22:51] <Douhan> hitsujiTMO: this one has the ppa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6882027/
[22:51] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: Pastebin -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga <- so we know what your graphics situation is.
[22:51] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: i think k1l maybe right: apt-cache policy php-acpu | pastebinit
[22:52] <Douhan> php-apcu* -- it says "You are trying to send an empty document, exiting."
[22:53] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: but no error  "N: Unable to locate package php-acpu" ???
[22:53] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: https://pastee.org/n7b35
[22:53] <Somelauw> and my internet is down
[22:54] <Douhan> I tried both, they both say: N: Unable to locate package [[php-acpu/apcu]]
[22:54] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: looking at 7b35 .
[22:54] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: what's that?
[22:55] <Blanco> "Bonne soirée/nuit les gens :)"
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: dammit, i typo'd: apt-cache policy php-apcu | pastebinit
[22:55] <Douhan> Same output hitsujiTMO
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: ahh. ok.
[22:55] <Douhan> Is it me or this PPA is partly broken?
[22:56] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: i'd assume an error on the PPA side. Broken index or whatnot
[22:56] <Douhan> Should I report this to the owner of the PPA?
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: do, he should be able to verify if its an issue at his end our yours
[22:57] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: i'm gonna reboot, trying to disable nomodeset
[22:57] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: All I am seeing is Intel, show us pastebin -> sudo lshw -C display <- .
[22:58] <Douhan> Ok thanks for help
[22:58] <hitsujiTMO> Bashing-om: some of the newer nvidia are showing up under 3D instead of VGA
[22:58] <chamunks> Is there a good utility for handling multibutton mice?
[22:59] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: https://pastee.org/7xbur
[23:01] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: i'll start the reboot now, but you can leave comments by highlighting Somelauw_
[23:05] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: rebooting enabled a maximum of 32767 * 32767
[23:05] <Bashing-om>  hitsujiTMO: Thanks for watching my back, newer systems are catching me off-guard.
[23:06] <Somelauw> so disabling nomodeset did do something
[23:06] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: what's the file again to make disabling nomodeset permanent?
[23:06] <Somelauw> /etc/grub
[23:06] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> Bashing-om: np. there's always something new cropping up to get in our way :P
[23:07] <Psil0Cybin> what can i type to display my system information how much ram i have? etc?
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: free -m       or to see the raw hardware: sudo dmidecode
[23:09] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: Can I do GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""?
[23:10] <starrats> rumor has it that ubuntu 12-4-4 is being released tomorrow
[23:11] <aclffrd> what could be causing my high idle load problem? i have some debug info listed at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6882097/
[23:11] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: I am researching your controller, be a bit. Is there a backup file? -> ls -la /etc/default/ <-
[23:12] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: i copied the file to my home dir before modifying
[23:12] <Somelauw> But no idea how to recover, because if i mess up that file, I'll probably be unable to boot
[23:12] <starrats> whois justinS_
[23:13] <kermit> how can i make apt install things without worrying about some unrelated broken dependancies?
[23:13] <kaddi> what's the maximum amount of RAM ubuntu 64bit will recognize by default
[23:13] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: pastebin -> cat /etc/default/grub <- and let's see what is .
[23:13] <Jordan_U> kermit: What is your end goal?
[23:14] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: https://pastee.org/ftjsv
[23:16] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: That file is good as is.. do: -> sudo update-grub <- and see what results.
[23:16] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: i did
[23:17] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: and then rebooted ? what is your status now ?
[23:17] <Somelauw> but already booted using nomodeset, because i used the nano-like editor in grub
[23:17] <Somelauw> i can do another reboot to check the config file
[23:17] <Somelauw> or actually i mean no nomodeset
[23:17] <Somelauw> double negotation
[23:18] <Somelauw> negation*
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> kaddi: 32bit is 64gb. 64bit is 16 EB
[23:18] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: and the resolut is that xrandr now shows extra resolutions
[23:19] <kaddi> hitsujiTMO: great, does it support that out of the box?
[23:19] <hitsujiTMO> kaddi: yup
[23:19] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: Yeah, let's get a freash look at things ! .. what version of ubuntu are you running ? Intel now has a driver installer for ubuntu !
[23:19] <kaddi> thanks :)
[23:19] <smeg> How would I dedicate one of the desktops in Ubuntu to display a separate organised desktop or side bar of programs of my choosing. I wish to keep the first desktop view as the anything goes desktop but for when I'm studio recording I'd like to switch to a better organised desktop. If you know what I mean.
[23:21] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: newest
[23:22] <Somelauw> now i just need to figure out how to change resolution again
[23:22] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: Check out -> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/03/intel-releases-linux-graphics-drivers.html .
[23:23] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: I must be away from the keyboard for a few minutes, I will be back.
[23:24] <basko> hello people. I just got my ubuntu started pretty much first time
[23:24] <toplel> testiclkes GNAA
[23:24] <basko> i did it because i was hoping it would recognize all my ram memory
[23:24] <basko> can someone help me wtih that?
[23:25] <QuincyMorris> what happened
[23:25] <lol_> SwatSec you idiot!
[23:25] <basko> i have 5 sticks in, x 4gb but it only shows 16gb and im quite sure all the sticks are alright
[23:25] <lol_> WHAT HAPPENED?
[23:25] <PKChoo_> you have to be kidding me...
[23:25] <lol_> SWATSEC IS A FUCKING JERK
[23:25] <lol_> AND HE HACKED ROTMG
[23:25] <pikha1> Actually, Swatsec Ftw
[23:25] <K> K
[23:25] <QuincyMorris> they r hackers right
[23:25] <PKChoo_> will it come back?
[23:25] <arankars> k
[23:25] <pikha1> that was Beast lol
[23:25] <Nickky> dude stop fucking hacking rotmg
[23:25] <FiremanFTW> Hey
[23:25] <lol_> HE'S JEALOUS AND A FREAKING BITCH WHO SUCKS HIS MOTHER DICK
[23:25] <chiplo> so nice
[23:25] <pikha1> Swatsec, is it possible you can add new items?
[23:25] <chiplo> hackers
[23:25] <Nickky> lol
[23:25] <SwatSecIsAwesome> gg
[23:25] <wdasd> GNAA
[23:25] <lol_> HE'S GAY AND A FREAKING BITCH
[23:25] <pikha1> GNAA
[23:25] <swag> gnaa
[23:25] <SwatSecIsAwesome> SWATSECISAWESOME
[23:25] <chiplo> nice trolls
[23:26] <SwatSecIsAwesome> SWATSECISAWESOME
[23:26] <wdasd> swatsec are u here?
[23:26] <SwatSecIsAwesome> SWATSECISAWESOME
[23:26] <Guest30723> This is now called realm of the mad kids.
[23:26] <SwatSecIsAwesome> SWATSECISAWESOME
[23:26] <SwatSecIsAwesome> SWATSECISAWESOME
[23:26] <gdgrdgdfgdfg> nigga
[23:26] <SwatSecIsAwesome> SWATSECISAWESOME
[23:26] <SwatSecIsAwesome> SWATSECISAWESOMESWATSECISAWESOMESWATSECISAWESOME
[23:26] <FiremanFTW> Wht is ROTMG not working
[23:26] <SwatSecIsAwesome> SWATSECISAWESOME
[23:26] <SwatSecIsAwesome> SWATSECISAWESOME
[23:26] <creepycow> hey
[23:26] <swag> stfu
[23:26] <gdgrdgdfgdfg> dd
[23:26] <gdgrdgdfgdfg> dd
[23:26] <SwatSecIsAwesome> SWATSECISAWESOME
[23:26] <wdasd> SWATSEC PLEASE OPEN THE GAME AGAIN
[23:26] <derp> derp?
[23:26] <gdgrdgdfgdfg> d
[23:26] <wdasd> SWATSEC PLEASE OPEN THE GAME AGAIN
[23:26] <wdasd> SWATSEC PLEASE OPEN THE GAME AGAIN
[23:26] <wdasd> SWATSEC PLEASE OPEN THE GAME AGAIN
[23:26] <gdgrdgdfgdfg> d
[23:26] <gdgrdgdfgdfg> d
[23:26] <lol_> GO STUCK A DICK IN YOUR ASS!
[23:26] <gdgrdgdfgdfg> d
[23:26] <gdgrdgdfgdfg> dd
[23:26] <kaddi> !ops
[23:26] <Somelauw> please ban them
[23:30] <kermit> Jordan_U:  http://pastebin.com/M0RpwNVH  install things without touching my pidgin install (as newer versions have a bug i cant handle0
[23:34] <debussy19> hi all
[23:35] <debussy19> i'm using HP 650 notebook with Ubuntu 12.04 (precise) 64 bit
[23:36] <debussy19> every now and then the PC completely freeze, the mouse cursor dont move, and any keyboard button combinations doesn't work
[23:36] <debussy19> even tried alt+stamp+r , e , i , s, u, b
[23:36] <debussy19> i just can long press power button to shutdown pc
[23:37] <debussy19> is there any log i can check where is the problem?
[23:39]  * souredfrog waves to k1l 
[23:42] <p3rror> hello
[23:42] <p3rror> please why I can not ping localhost
[23:42] <ikonia> p3rror: what version of ubuntu and what error
[23:43] <p3rror> I can not ping localhost
[23:43] <p3rror> nor my eth0
[23:43] <ikonia> that's not an error
[23:43] <ikonia> what version of ubuntu and what error
[23:43] <p3rror> and I dont get error
[23:43] <p3rror> it fuzz
[23:43] <ikonia> it fuzz ??
[23:43] <ikonia> what version of ubuntu and what is the symptom you are seeing
[23:45] <crinkle> I'm going to repost my question in hopes that it doesn't get lost in scrollback:
[23:46] <crinkle> I'm having trouble with dual displays. I have a desktop with an nvidia graphics card. The display is mirroring on both monitors, but the resolution is wrong in the wider monitor. The Displays dialog claims there is only one monitor and that it is a "Laptop".
[23:46] <crinkle> The Detect Displays button does nothing, and the Mirror displays checkbox is grayed out and unchecked.
[23:47] <brucelee> how come i get so little snmp results when i snmpwalk after apt-get snmpd
[23:47] <brucelee> do i need to install something else to get more?
[23:47] <ikonia> have you setup the community string and mibs ?
[23:47] <Somelauw> Is it possible to run gnome-control-center without unity?
[23:47] <ikonia> should be
[23:47] <ikonia> it's gnome - not unity
[23:47] <Somelauw> because it's giving me an error each time i try to run it
[23:48] <ikonia> Somelauw: you really need to start giving DETAILS, constantly "it gives me an error" what error, where, how, what's the problem
[23:48] <Somelauw> ikonia: unity is a gnome-fork, so it's the same for me
[23:48] <ikonia> it's getting tedious to have to keep pulling info
[23:49] <ikonia> Somelauw: it's not a gnome fork
[23:49] <Somelauw> ikonia: sorry, here is the error: https://pastee.org/z6mpt
[23:50] <ikonia> Somelauw: can you show me the output of the command "id" please
[23:51] <Somelauw> ikonia: uid=1000(somelauw) gid=1000(somelauw) groups=1000(somelauw),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),112(lpadmin),124(sambashare)
[23:51] <ikonia> Somelauw: have you removed unity ?
[23:51] <Somelauw> ikonia: nope, but i'm not running it
[23:52] <ikonia> what are you running ?
[23:53] <Somelauw> ikonia: i3
[23:53] <ikonia> i3 ?
[23:53] <ikonia> what is i3 ?
[23:53] <Somelauw> ikonia: it's not gnome-related
[23:53] <ikonia> what's not gnome related
[23:53] <Somelauw> another DE/WM
[23:53] <ikonia> where did the packages come from ?
[23:54] <ikonia> are they part of the ubuntu repos ?
[23:54] <ikonia> (apologies, I'm not aware of this desktop)
[23:54] <Somelauw> ikonia: indirectly yes
[23:54] <ikonia> what do you mean indirectly
[23:54] <ikonia> are they in the ubuntu repos yes/no
[23:54] <Ben64> !info i3
[23:54] <ikonia> thank you ben
[23:55] <Ben64> but still curious of the meaning of "indirectly"
[23:55] <ikonia> so does this desktop setup the same gnome variables such as GTK and GDK parameters ?
[23:55] <Ben64> i doubt it
[23:55] <ikonia> which may explain the error if thats not setup
[23:56] <Ben64> its very barebones
[23:56] <ikonia> I'd certainly look at that then as a first point of call
[23:58] <eri_> hello
[23:59] <sudormrf> hey guys.  quick question about libreoffice writer.  I am trying to accomplish something, here is a screencap I took of me doing what I want to do with Word 2013: http://tinypic.com/r/1zwjll2/8 This feature has existed in word since 2007 and I would love to be able to duplicate this in LibreOffice.  Any of you guys know how to do it?
[23:59] <ikonia> try the libreoffice channel
[23:59] <ikonia> they should be able to clarify functionality/version easy