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KnightSirThombrainwash: i will try to find the bugreport, where is it stored?00:14
zack_hay00:43
zack_hello00:43
zack_well if anyone is lisining i need help installing windows (any verson) on my comp. my os is xubuntu 13.04 and im new with it00:45
zack_anyone00:46
knomezack_, patience please00:48
zack_ok00:48
knomezack_, also, why not ask your question and see if people are able to help?00:48
zack_i did00:48
knomecan you be a bit more specific00:49
knomewhat kind of problem are you experiencing?00:49
zack_i need help installing windows (any verson) on my comp. my os is xubuntu 13.04 and im new with it00:49
knomeand what is the problem?00:50
zack_i know my way around windows os not so well with xubuntu 13.0400:50
knomedo you need help installing windows alongside xubuntu, and what kind or problem does that give you? or do you need help with using xubuntu?00:51
zack_no problam just not good with os stuff00:51
zack_or command prompt00:51
knomeokay... i'm unsure how i can help you00:52
knomemaybe you want to browse the documentation; http://docs.xubuntu.org/00:52
zack_guide me thorugh the prosess of installing windows on my comp00:53
zack_01101000 01100101 01101100 01110000 00100000 01101101 0110010100:54
IdleOnezack_: for help with windows you probably want to be asking in ##windows00:56
zack_i need help installing windows on my current os xubuntu 13.0400:57
IdleOnethat isn't how it works00:57
IdleOneunless you mean installing windows in a Virtual machine00:57
knome(or emulating)00:57
zack_01100011 01100001 01101110 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01101000 01100101 01101100 01110000 00100000 01101101 0110010100:57
zack_well i dont know anymore00:58
* not_found doesn't know either00:58
IdleOnepretty sure most of us don't speak binary, please use English :)00:58
zack_ok im sorry old habbits00:59
IdleOneso yeah, figure out what it is exactly you are trying to do then let us know and maybe we can help guide you in the right direction00:59
zack_it means can you help me00:59
IdleOneCan't help you without knowing exactly what it is you need help with01:00
zack_i need help installing windows on my dual core intell prosessor  gateway that curently has xubuntu 13.04 . thats where you come in telling me what disk,flash (etc) on my comp and what commands to type in01:02
knomezack_, do you have other native language than binary?01:04
zack_so can you help me ive spent my entire day talking in binary code to program comps but i cant put windows 7 on my comp01:04
zack_endlish01:04
knomethis isn't the support channel for windows 7.01:04
zack_some mandran + arabic01:04
zack_i know that i want windows 701:05
zack_can someone tell knome what im trying to tell him01:06
not_foundzack_ do you want to remove Xubuntu and install Windows 7?01:06
zack_yes01:07
not_founddo you have a Windows 7 DVD?01:07
zack_no posably01:07
zack_idk01:07
zack_im 1201:07
* not_found stops feeding01:07
zack_what01:08
IdleOnealright, I think it is time to stop messing around now. We can't help you with Windows01:08
knomezack_, ask ##windows if you need help installing windows. unless you have a xubuntu-related issue, this is not the place to ask for support.01:08
zack_what ever01:08
starratsyou do what you got to do knome01:14
knomeyes sir01:14
not_found:)01:15
fibz_some peoples children...02:37
userbob2I was installing virtualbox on xubuntu with apt-get. Just few days ago i notice (apt-get install virtualbox -v) that version of virtualbox is 3.2. When the latest version is 4.3.6 ? Why is that ?07:00
cfhowlettuserbob2, there are at least 2 versions of virtualbox - the one in the repos which may / may not be the very latest and the one you download from oracle .07:01
userbob2i understand it can't be very latest, but that version in repos is very very old...07:02
userbob2i dont know few years probably ...07:03
cfhowlettuserbob2, stuff enters the repos at different times.  for the very latest packages, run apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade     and that will usually pull the most recent versions from the available repos07:04
userbob2upgrade vs dist-upgrade not the same ?07:05
userbob2i doing apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade07:05
bazhang!dist-upgrade | userbob207:08
ubottuuserbob2: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.07:08
userbob2i know that07:09
userbob2but it is difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade ?07:09
bazhangyes07:09
bazhangsee above07:10
userbob2!dist-upgrade07:11
ubottuA dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.07:11
userbob2ok07:11
userbob2!upgrade07:11
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade07:11
bazhang!info virtualbox07:11
userbob2thanks i look at that07:11
ubottuvirtualbox (source: virtualbox): x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.2.16-dfsg-3 (saucy), package size 13831 kB, installed size 50333 kB07:11
bazhangVersion 4.2.16  <----- userbob207:12
userbob2strange07:13
userbob2i hope it not difference if i use my country mirrors for update :D ?07:14
bazhangwhat mirror07:14
bazhangwhat version of xubuntu are you on07:15
userbob2http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877579/07:17
bazhang13.10?07:18
userbob2yes07:19
userbob2not understand this07:20
userbob2## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu  ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to  ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in  ## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu ## security team.07:20
bazhang ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED07:22
bazhangunderstand that?07:22
userbob2yes07:26
userbob2where i can see xubuntu 13.10 sources.list file ?07:31
baizonuserbob2: /etc/apt/sources.list07:33
userbob2my file is fucked up. i want to see original, not really understand what repositories i must to add07:34
Unit193No swearing here.07:35
Unit193It's generated on install, do you have a /etc/apt/sources.list.save ?07:36
userbob2no i don't have that save file07:38
userbob2nevermind, im RTFM07:40
bazhang!rtfm | userbob207:42
ubottuuserbob2: Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.07:42
userbob2:D07:42
userbob2:D07:42
userbob2whatever noobz ;)07:43
eitzeiHi! How often programrepositories are updated in xubuntu?07:43
bazhangeitzei, which version of xubuntu07:44
eitzeibazhang: 13.04, why I ask is there is only "old" version of Eclipse.07:46
bazhangwhich version did you need eitzei07:47
eitzeiKepler, but I manage to install it already.07:48
bazhangversion number?07:48
eitzeibazhanh,4.307:50
bazhangVersion 3.8.1-4 is in the repos07:50
xubuntu466Hello?08:22
mappshi xubuntu46608:22
xubuntu466Hi. I'm having problems with installing Xubuntu on an old computer08:22
mappswhats going wrong pal08:23
xubuntu466I have made a key with Xubuntu 13.10 with "linux live usb creator".08:24
xubuntu466I boot it from the computer08:24
mappsyep08:24
xubuntu466The screen says "automatic boot in 1,2,3,4,5 seconds"08:24
xubuntu466and then a list appears, and it just stands like that08:25
mappsok08:26
mappspress enter08:26
mappsthe list has options ya?08:26
xubuntu466no it's just a kind of log08:26
xubuntu466no options. nothing hapenes when i press the keyboard08:27
mappshm08:27
mappsany chance of a bit more info of what this list says08:27
xubuntu466There is a lot.08:27
mappshm08:28
mappsany chance u can provide a link or image08:28
mappsso i can see08:28
mappsanything off google or whatever08:28
xubuntu466Yes. just a sec08:28
xubuntu466http://i.imgur.com/ZSRmjbV.jpg08:31
mappsthanks08:32
mappssec08:32
xubuntu466:908:32
xubuntu466*:)08:32
mappsahh ok so thats when its booting08:32
mapps2sec08:32
mappswhats the las thing it says08:32
xubuntu466yes, after i have selected the flash drive as the boot device08:32
mappsyea08:32
xubuntu466"...stepping: 04)"08:33
mappslooking now:D08:35
xubuntu466Find out anything? :) Thank you for helping.08:56
mappshey sorry im a bit stumped  it just stop at step04?08:58
xubuntu466yes08:59
mappshmn#08:59
xubuntu466can it be the cpu?08:59
xubuntu466or the ram?08:59
Poisoned_DragonWell Stepping 04 is part of the description of the cpu.09:03
Poisoned_DragonI don't know if it's relevant to the problem.09:03
Poisoned_DragonYou would have to know what's happening in that moment.09:03
xubuntu466So. Any ideas of what I can do? Is there anything I can do in the BIOS to make it work? Or should i run another version of linux?09:05
Poisoned_Dragondid you try booting with nomodeset?09:07
mappswhat about that noacpi? i remember i had to use that once09:07
Poisoned_DragonIs this a P4/Celeron Socket 478?09:07
Poisoned_DragonOne option at a time.09:07
xubuntu466How do i boot with nomodeset?09:07
Poisoned_Dragonif you mix options now, you won't know what works and what doesn't.09:07
Poisoned_Dragonis this a live session or a full install?09:08
xubuntu466full install09:08
Poisoned_Dragonwhen the computer first boots, hold shift after the bios posts.09:09
Poisoned_DragonYou should be able to get the grub menu.09:09
Poisoned_DragonYou can add and edit options there.09:09
xubuntu466yes. there now09:09
mappsyea09:10
mappsafter you can type them09:11
xubuntu466Now i disabled acpi, and it looks like it's working. There is a blank screen with: "Xubuntu 13.10" and blinking dots beneath.09:37
xubuntu466The dots are just blinking, and nothing happens09:38
xubuntu466NOW IT WORKS!09:39
Unit193\o/09:40
xubuntu466Thank you for your help :)09:40
mappshey10:00
mappswait10:00
mappsi said maybe it was noacpi :P10:00
mappsages back10:00
mapps:P10:00
patteh_lo all10:58
patteh_i'm trying to make a launcher that will autoexecute an ssh-login command in terminal10:58
patteh_which flag do I use before the shh command?10:58
patteh_nm i worked it out :D11:03
chunhaohey guys, how can i check the resolution of a video? its not shown in properties of the video11:41
Danilo_XubuntuHi!11:42
Danilo_Xubuntuis anybody in there?11:43
knome!anybody | Danilo_Xubuntu11:43
ubottuDanilo_Xubuntu: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.11:43
Danilo_Xubuntuuhm... my wifi doesn't workelp... i was just wonderin for some h11:44
Danilo_Xubuntu*help11:45
knomeDanilo_Xubuntu, can you please give us some more details... what "doesn't work" exactly? which wifi device?11:46
starratsnot to bother but good morning knome11:48
karl_hi all13:38
karl_I am using xubuntu 13,04,  no more support so I have told it via software updater to upgrade me to 13.10  .   Is there a way to see if it is working?13:39
cfhowlettkarl_, see if WHAT is working?13:42
karl_if the upgrade is working.  The 13.04 software updater  said it was no longer supported.  Asked me if I wanted to upgrade,  I clicked upgrade,  then it just went off and I do not know if it is working now13:43
cfhowlettkarl_, open a terminal and run lsb_release -a    that'll tell you the current version13:44
karl_raring 13.0413:45
cfhowlett!upgrade|karl_,13:46
ubottukarl_,: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade13:46
karl_upgrade does not seem to be supported anymore13:52
karl_but xubuntu says it is, oh well13:53
cfhowlettkarl_, come to the #ubuntu channel and ask how to upgrade an end of life release.  I've never done and don't know how ...13:54
cfhowlettkarl_, or you could download the ISO and clean install - I'd recommend 12.04 as it's LTS and the new LTS drops in April.13:55
karl_for reference  sudo do-release-upgrade     did the trick13:59
cfhowlettkarl_, I knew there was a trick to somewhere ...13:59
DGRHi guys. It appears HDMI output is broken in 13.10, has anyone found a workaround? (laptop)15:32
DGRsorry. session timed out. I was asking if anyone has a workaround or fix for the broken HDMI output in 13.10? Thank you.15:43
baizonDGR: how is it broken?15:57
baizonit works for me15:58
DGRWhen an HDMI cable is plugged in and I hit Fn+F7 I don't get the dialog to share my desktop anymore16:09
DGRThe kernel is seeing the HDMI device as always disconnected.16:09
DGRAnd there is a LP bug filed for it but wondering if anyone solved this yet. Looks like a kernel regression.16:10
DGRhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/124970516:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1249705 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "HDMI output not available in 13.10" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:10
DGRYes16:10
DGRNot just audio, but video too.16:10
DGRxrandr:16:10
DGRhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/124970516:11
DGRHDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)16:11
NorthernInstalling xubuntu on my amd athlon. Installation is taking way longer than Debian or Ubuntu/kuduntu. Is this normal?16:38
kRushdefine way longer, I bet you can make debian install for quite a while.. but should be about the same as u/k17:44
dickatircthere is tty output in classic xubuntu installer, so its possible to see where it get stucked18:14
peyamhi18:59
peyamThe option "softwares & updates " is gone from setting manager18:59
peyamhow do I fix it18:59
brainwashpeyam: re-install software-properties-gtk19:01
peyamthank brainwash  :)19:02
Dan_DHi there, got a slight issue. On the 'start menu' (button at top left) there is a section called 'Other'. It contains launchers that lead to programs I have deleted. How do I get rid of them? They do not show up in the settings manager!19:04
Dan_DAnd speaking of which, how do I generally delete launchers, not from the menu, but from the system generally, so they do not appear in things like the Open With application list when opening new file types19:04
brainwash1) check  ~/.local/share/applications/19:05
brainwash2) delete the application19:05
Dan_DHow do I get to .local?19:05
brainwashpress ctrl + h19:06
Dan_DNothing changed, except hidden files became hidden again19:06
brainwashso there is no .local folder in your home folder?19:06
Dan_DOh, in the home folder?19:06
brainwashyes19:07
Dan_DGot it19:07
brainwash~ means home folder19:07
Dan_DSo, delete all unwanted launchers?19:07
brainwashthe one you don't need anymore19:07
Dan_DI can only see some19:07
Dan_DAll the ones I want to get rid of are not there19:07
Dan_DAlso, have to go to dinner now, be back soon19:08
brainwashok19:08
brainwashDan_D: you might also want to check /usr/share/applications/ which contains the system wide launchers (also the place to look if you don't actually want to delete any application -> question 2)19:10
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Dan_DAh, back. Thanks brainwash!19:36
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tazaDoes Xubuntu 13.10 have Fake-PAE installer that doesn't require wizardry?20:35
taza+a20:36
bekksWhats "Fake-PAE"?20:36
tazaUh, it's a long story. If you know the answer, you can understand the question.20:37
tazatl;dr It's support for processors that have quirky feature support flags20:37
Dan_DHow do I open a .deb via command line, if even possible?21:28
bekksDan_D: Open it to do what?21:28
Dan_DMake it install whatever program it is for21:28
Dan_DRather thn using the softa21:29
Dan_D*software centre to open it21:29
bekksapt-get install gimp     -- that would install gimp from commandline, e.g.21:29
Dan_DOk21:29
cloudbenderIf I reinstall, will xubuntu detect my second monitor ?21:29
Pici*sudo21:29
bekksyeah, sudo apt-get...21:29
Dan_DSo sudo apt-get install name-of-.deb21:30
bekksDan_D: No. For installing a plain deb file, use sudo dpkg -i name.deb21:30
Dan_DAH, ok, thanks!21:30
xubuntu597how can i uninstall plugin icetea? i have removed to ubuntu software center21:42
bazhangapt-cache search iced21:43
bazhangicedtea-plugin21:43
bazhangsudo apt-get remove packagename21:44
xubuntu597does not work21:47
bazhangwhat is the error21:47
xubuntu597misses icetea21:48
cloudbenderIs there a way to tell xubuntu to detect a second monitor ?21:50
xubuntu597web browser plugin to execute java applet21:50
cloudbenderNo takers ?21:52
xubuntu597Can not find the package packagename21:52
bazhangyou use the actual package name, not "packagename"21:53
knomecloudbender, if you aren't afraid of command line, check 'xrandr -q'21:53
bazhangin this case it's icedtea-plugin21:53
xubuntu597a ok sorry21:54
tazaSo, is there a non-wizard way to install Xubuntu on a no-PAE laptop?21:54
tazaWell, yes-PAE no-PAE-flag laptop, anyway21:54
xubuntu597can not find the packege icetea-plugin21:55
knomexubuntu597, it's icedtea-plugin.21:55
Sysitaza: I think 12.04 doesn't have pae by default21:55
xubuntu597ops sorry21:55
knomexubuntu597, i would suggest to reinstall ubuntu software center to handle your packages21:55
taza12.04 doesn't, but I'd like a newer version21:56
xubuntu597sorry but someone speak italian?21:56
knometaza, you can upgrade to 14.04 from 12.04 in april21:56
tazaknome: 14.04 will have native no-PAE?21:56
knome!it | xubuntu59721:56
ubottuxubuntu597: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)21:57
tazaWell, fake-PAE21:57
knometaza, i would imagine there is something that allows you to run it21:57
cloudbenderknome thanks21:57
knometaza, especially since you have processor that actually supports PAE21:57
knometaza, there was some really simple fix for that (which should work for most of those machines), basically just add the word "pae" in /proc/cpuinfo (iirc)21:58
cloudbender... and I suppose man xandr might not hurt either :)21:58
tazaknome: So, do you actually know anything regarding 14.04 and fake-PAE?21:58
knometaza, Unit193 can confirm/tell you more about it21:58
Unit193>_>21:58
knomecloudbender, or arandr, if you prefer a GUI21:58
cloudbenderk tnx21:58
xubuntu597sorry how can i get root mode?21:58
tazaBecause you sound like you're just half-remembering things that may or may not be accurate.21:58
knometaza, i don't have exact information (yet).21:58
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knometaza, talk with Unit193. :)21:59
Unit193knome: It's a bit hacky, so I've stayed away from it (also only have PAE computers) nothing in the official repo.21:59
knomeUnit193, i'm aware of that, but since it might be the only option for those people...21:59
tazaSo the tl;dr is "ignore everything knome has just said, and to be safe, put him on ignore". Got it.21:59
bazhangtaza, please dont do that22:00
tazaAnyway.22:00
tazaUnit193: I'm aware of the Fake-PAE trickery and I also know how hard it is to install an OS doing it.22:00
knometaza, i would you to reconsider your attitude. thanks.22:00
tazaThat's why I would like a non-wizard way of doing it22:00
bazhangdiscussion of 14.04 is in #ubuntu+1 taza not here22:01
tazaWell I actually want to install 13.1022:01
xubuntu597i have romeved!.... i think22:02
tazaBut since it's clear that you're more concerned with regular egos than with actually, y'know, helping people or discussing technology, I don't think I'll benefit from being here anyway.22:03
cloudbenderwell I apt-got ARandR but it still does not detect the second monitor22:11
cloudbenderI'll try a fresh install22:11
xubuntu248Hi, I using 14.04 daily build, my laptop touchpad is being detected as a pointer "evdev pointer catchall" InputClass, with the result that there is no multitouch. I tried commenting that class out hoping that it would default to the touchpad but then the touchpad was non functional. Any suggestions ?22:16
bazhang!14.04 | xubuntu24822:23
ubottuxubuntu248: Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+122:23
xubuntu248as i said, im using the xubuntu 14.04 daily build http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/22:25
bazhangsupport in #ubuntu+1  <----- xubuntu24822:26
bazhang /join #ubuntu+122:26
xubuntu248thanks22:26
xubuntu248(even though its probably a general configuration issue)22:27
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xubuntu951Hello. I'm new to all this. How do I enable Javascript or at least add exceptions for some websites23:25
knomexubuntu951, javascript should be enabled by default on firefox on xubuntu23:27
xubuntu951hmm, okay. I thought so. This one website is giving me an error23:27
xubuntu951thank you23:27
Unit193xubuntu951: What site?23:28
Unit193(And I can check it out, you may need some extra plugin or something.)23:28
xubuntu951it's a devry website23:28
xubuntu951my.devry.edu23:29
xubuntu951could I get those plug-ins from the Ubuntu software center?23:30
Unit193xubuntu951: You need java.23:30
Unit193icedtea-plugin should be the one.23:31
xubuntu951okay, i did download that and the java website is confirming I have it. so it must be a security setting i have23:32
xubuntu951Thanks for helping me out thogh :)23:34
Unit193It told me that I needed java and disable popup blocker (I have java disabled in the browser for added security.)23:35
xubuntu951how do i enable it?23:36
xubuntu951I swear I've been through all the settings23:36
Unit193about:plugins23:37
Unit193Err, tools > addons > plugins23:38
xubuntu951I'm getting :  command not found23:43
Unit193This would be in firefox, we're checking that the addon is enabled in Tools > Addons > Plugins23:45
xubuntu951okay, sorry, so new to this23:45
Unit193Noo problem, I'll just have slow response time, doing other stuff too.23:45
xubuntu951Ahh, I appreciate your time so much.  thank you, that worked it out.23:46
Unit193\o/23:49

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