[00:14] <KnightSirThom> brainwash: i will try to find the bugreport, where is it stored?
[00:43] <zack_> hay
[00:43] <zack_> hello
[00:45] <zack_> well if anyone is lisining i need help installing windows (any verson) on my comp. my os is xubuntu 13.04 and im new with it
[00:46] <zack_> anyone
[00:48] <knome> zack_, patience please
[00:48] <zack_> ok
[00:48] <knome> zack_, also, why not ask your question and see if people are able to help?
[00:48] <zack_> i did
[00:49] <knome> can you be a bit more specific
[00:49] <knome> what kind of problem are you experiencing?
[00:49] <zack_> i need help installing windows (any verson) on my comp. my os is xubuntu 13.04 and im new with it
[00:50] <knome> and what is the problem?
[00:50] <zack_> i know my way around windows os not so well with xubuntu 13.04
[00:51] <knome> do you need help installing windows alongside xubuntu, and what kind or problem does that give you? or do you need help with using xubuntu?
[00:51] <zack_> no problam just not good with os stuff
[00:51] <zack_> or command prompt
[00:52] <knome> okay... i'm unsure how i can help you
[00:52] <knome> maybe you want to browse the documentation; http://docs.xubuntu.org/
[00:53] <zack_> guide me thorugh the prosess of installing windows on my comp
[00:54] <zack_> 01101000 01100101 01101100 01110000 00100000 01101101 01100101
[00:56] <IdleOne> zack_: for help with windows you probably want to be asking in ##windows
[00:57] <zack_> i need help installing windows on my current os xubuntu 13.04
[00:57] <IdleOne> that isn't how it works
[00:57] <IdleOne> unless you mean installing windows in a Virtual machine
[00:57] <knome> (or emulating)
[00:57] <zack_> 01100011 01100001 01101110 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01101000 01100101 01101100 01110000 00100000 01101101 01100101
[00:58] <zack_> well i dont know anymore
[00:58]  * not_found doesn't know either
[00:58] <IdleOne> pretty sure most of us don't speak binary, please use English :)
[00:59] <zack_> ok im sorry old habbits
[00:59] <IdleOne> so yeah, figure out what it is exactly you are trying to do then let us know and maybe we can help guide you in the right direction
[00:59] <zack_> it means can you help me
[01:00] <IdleOne> Can't help you without knowing exactly what it is you need help with
[01:02] <zack_> i need help installing windows on my dual core intell prosessor  gateway that curently has xubuntu 13.04 . thats where you come in telling me what disk,flash (etc) on my comp and what commands to type in
[01:04] <knome> zack_, do you have other native language than binary?
[01:04] <zack_> so can you help me ive spent my entire day talking in binary code to program comps but i cant put windows 7 on my comp
[01:04] <zack_> endlish
[01:04] <knome> this isn't the support channel for windows 7.
[01:04] <zack_> some mandran + arabic
[01:05] <zack_> i know that i want windows 7
[01:06] <zack_> can someone tell knome what im trying to tell him
[01:06] <not_found> zack_ do you want to remove Xubuntu and install Windows 7?
[01:07] <zack_> yes
[01:07] <not_found> do you have a Windows 7 DVD?
[01:07] <zack_> no posably
[01:07] <zack_> idk
[01:07] <zack_> im 12
[01:07]  * not_found stops feeding
[01:08] <zack_> what
[01:08] <IdleOne> alright, I think it is time to stop messing around now. We can't help you with Windows
[01:08] <knome> zack_, ask ##windows if you need help installing windows. unless you have a xubuntu-related issue, this is not the place to ask for support.
[01:08] <zack_> what ever
[01:14] <starrats> you do what you got to do knome
[01:14] <knome> yes sir
[01:15] <not_found> :)
[02:37] <fibz_> some peoples children...
[07:00] <userbob2> I was installing virtualbox on xubuntu with apt-get. Just few days ago i notice (apt-get install virtualbox -v) that version of virtualbox is 3.2. When the latest version is 4.3.6 ? Why is that ?
[07:01] <cfhowlett> userbob2, there are at least 2 versions of virtualbox - the one in the repos which may / may not be the very latest and the one you download from oracle .
[07:02] <userbob2> i understand it can't be very latest, but that version in repos is very very old...
[07:03] <userbob2> i dont know few years probably ...
[07:04] <cfhowlett> userbob2, stuff enters the repos at different times.  for the very latest packages, run apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade     and that will usually pull the most recent versions from the available repos
[07:05] <userbob2> upgrade vs dist-upgrade not the same ?
[07:05] <userbob2> i doing apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:08] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | userbob2
[07:09] <userbob2> i know that
[07:09] <userbob2> but it is difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade ?
[07:09] <bazhang> yes
[07:10] <bazhang> see above
[07:11] <userbob2> !dist-upgrade
[07:11] <userbob2> ok
[07:11] <userbob2> !upgrade
[07:11] <bazhang> !info virtualbox
[07:11] <userbob2> thanks i look at that
[07:12] <bazhang> Version 4.2.16  <----- userbob2
[07:13] <userbob2> strange
[07:14] <userbob2> i hope it not difference if i use my country mirrors for update :D ?
[07:14] <bazhang> what mirror
[07:15] <bazhang> what version of xubuntu are you on
[07:17] <userbob2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6877579/
[07:18] <bazhang> 13.10?
[07:19] <userbob2> yes
[07:20] <userbob2> not understand this
[07:20] <userbob2> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu  ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to  ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in  ## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu ## security team.
[07:22] <bazhang>  ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED
[07:22] <bazhang> understand that?
[07:26] <userbob2> yes
[07:31] <userbob2> where i can see xubuntu 13.10 sources.list file ?
[07:33] <baizon> userbob2: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:34] <userbob2> my file is fucked up. i want to see original, not really understand what repositories i must to add
[07:35] <Unit193> No swearing here.
[07:36] <Unit193> It's generated on install, do you have a /etc/apt/sources.list.save ?
[07:38] <userbob2> no i don't have that save file
[07:40] <userbob2> nevermind, im RTFM
[07:42] <bazhang> !rtfm | userbob2
[07:42] <userbob2> :D
[07:42] <userbob2> :D
[07:43] <userbob2> whatever noobz ;)
[07:43] <eitzei> Hi! How often programrepositories are updated in xubuntu?
[07:44] <bazhang> eitzei, which version of xubuntu
[07:46] <eitzei> bazhang: 13.04, why I ask is there is only "old" version of Eclipse.
[07:47] <bazhang> which version did you need eitzei
[07:48] <eitzei> Kepler, but I manage to install it already.
[07:48] <bazhang> version number?
[07:50] <eitzei> bazhanh,4.3
[07:50] <bazhang> Version 3.8.1-4 is in the repos
[08:22] <xubuntu466> Hello?
[08:22] <mapps> hi xubuntu466
[08:22] <xubuntu466> Hi. I'm having problems with installing Xubuntu on an old computer
[08:23] <mapps> whats going wrong pal
[08:24] <xubuntu466> I have made a key with Xubuntu 13.10 with "linux live usb creator".
[08:24] <xubuntu466> I boot it from the computer
[08:24] <mapps> yep
[08:24] <xubuntu466> The screen says "automatic boot in 1,2,3,4,5 seconds"
[08:25] <xubuntu466> and then a list appears, and it just stands like that
[08:26] <mapps> ok
[08:26] <mapps> press enter
[08:26] <mapps> the list has options ya?
[08:26] <xubuntu466> no it's just a kind of log
[08:27] <xubuntu466> no options. nothing hapenes when i press the keyboard
[08:27] <mapps> hm
[08:27] <mapps> any chance of a bit more info of what this list says
[08:27] <xubuntu466> There is a lot.
[08:28] <mapps> hm
[08:28] <mapps> any chance u can provide a link or image
[08:28] <mapps> so i can see
[08:28] <mapps> anything off google or whatever
[08:28] <xubuntu466> Yes. just a sec
[08:31] <xubuntu466> http://i.imgur.com/ZSRmjbV.jpg
[08:32] <mapps> thanks
[08:32] <mapps> sec
[08:32] <xubuntu466> :9
[08:32] <xubuntu466> *:)
[08:32] <mapps> ahh ok so thats when its booting
[08:32] <mapps> 2sec
[08:32] <mapps> whats the las thing it says
[08:32] <xubuntu466> yes, after i have selected the flash drive as the boot device
[08:32] <mapps> yea
[08:33] <xubuntu466> "...stepping: 04)"
[08:35] <mapps> looking now:D
[08:56] <xubuntu466> Find out anything? :) Thank you for helping.
[08:58] <mapps> hey sorry im a bit stumped  it just stop at step04?
[08:59] <xubuntu466> yes
[08:59] <mapps> hmn#
[08:59] <xubuntu466> can it be the cpu?
[08:59] <xubuntu466> or the ram?
[09:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well Stepping 04 is part of the description of the cpu.
[09:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> I don't know if it's relevant to the problem.
[09:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> You would have to know what's happening in that moment.
[09:05] <xubuntu466> So. Any ideas of what I can do? Is there anything I can do in the BIOS to make it work? Or should i run another version of linux?
[09:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> did you try booting with nomodeset?
[09:07] <mapps> what about that noacpi? i remember i had to use that once
[09:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> Is this a P4/Celeron Socket 478?
[09:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> One option at a time.
[09:07] <xubuntu466> How do i boot with nomodeset?
[09:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> if you mix options now, you won't know what works and what doesn't.
[09:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> is this a live session or a full install?
[09:08] <xubuntu466> full install
[09:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> when the computer first boots, hold shift after the bios posts.
[09:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> You should be able to get the grub menu.
[09:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> You can add and edit options there.
[09:09] <xubuntu466> yes. there now
[09:10] <mapps> yea
[09:11] <mapps> after you can type them
[09:37] <xubuntu466> Now i disabled acpi, and it looks like it's working. There is a blank screen with: "Xubuntu 13.10" and blinking dots beneath.
[09:38] <xubuntu466> The dots are just blinking, and nothing happens
[09:39] <xubuntu466> NOW IT WORKS!
[09:40] <Unit193> \o/
[09:40] <xubuntu466> Thank you for your help :)
[10:00] <mapps> hey
[10:00] <mapps> wait
[10:00] <mapps> i said maybe it was noacpi :P
[10:00] <mapps> ages back
[10:00] <mapps> :P
[10:58] <patteh_> lo all
[10:58] <patteh_> i'm trying to make a launcher that will autoexecute an ssh-login command in terminal
[10:58] <patteh_> which flag do I use before the shh command?
[11:03] <patteh_> nm i worked it out :D
[11:41] <chunhao> hey guys, how can i check the resolution of a video? its not shown in properties of the video
[11:42] <Danilo_Xubuntu> Hi!
[11:43] <Danilo_Xubuntu> is anybody in there?
[11:43] <knome> !anybody | Danilo_Xubuntu
[11:44] <Danilo_Xubuntu> uhm... my wifi doesn't workelp... i was just wonderin for some h
[11:45] <Danilo_Xubuntu> *help
[11:46] <knome> Danilo_Xubuntu, can you please give us some more details... what "doesn't work" exactly? which wifi device?
[11:48] <starrats> not to bother but good morning knome
[13:38] <karl_> hi all
[13:39] <karl_> I am using xubuntu 13,04,  no more support so I have told it via software updater to upgrade me to 13.10  .   Is there a way to see if it is working?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> karl_, see if WHAT is working?
[13:43] <karl_> if the upgrade is working.  The 13.04 software updater  said it was no longer supported.  Asked me if I wanted to upgrade,  I clicked upgrade,  then it just went off and I do not know if it is working now
[13:44] <cfhowlett> karl_, open a terminal and run lsb_release -a    that'll tell you the current version
[13:45] <karl_> raring 13.04
[13:46] <cfhowlett> !upgrade|karl_,
[13:52] <karl_> upgrade does not seem to be supported anymore
[13:53] <karl_> but xubuntu says it is, oh well
[13:54] <cfhowlett> karl_, come to the #ubuntu channel and ask how to upgrade an end of life release.  I've never done and don't know how ...
[13:55] <cfhowlett> karl_, or you could download the ISO and clean install - I'd recommend 12.04 as it's LTS and the new LTS drops in April.
[13:59] <karl_> for reference  sudo do-release-upgrade     did the trick
[13:59] <cfhowlett> karl_, I knew there was a trick to somewhere ...
[15:32] <DGR> Hi guys. It appears HDMI output is broken in 13.10, has anyone found a workaround? (laptop)
[15:43] <DGR> sorry. session timed out. I was asking if anyone has a workaround or fix for the broken HDMI output in 13.10? Thank you.
[15:57] <baizon> DGR: how is it broken?
[15:58] <baizon> it works for me
[16:09] <DGR> When an HDMI cable is plugged in and I hit Fn+F7 I don't get the dialog to share my desktop anymore
[16:09] <DGR> The kernel is seeing the HDMI device as always disconnected.
[16:10] <DGR> And there is a LP bug filed for it but wondering if anyone solved this yet. Looks like a kernel regression.
[16:10] <DGR> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1249705
[16:10] <DGR> Yes
[16:10] <DGR> Not just audio, but video too.
[16:10] <DGR> xrandr:
[16:11] <DGR> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1249705
[16:11] <DGR> HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[16:38] <Northern> Installing xubuntu on my amd athlon. Installation is taking way longer than Debian or Ubuntu/kuduntu. Is this normal?
[17:44] <kRush> define way longer, I bet you can make debian install for quite a while.. but should be about the same as u/k
[18:14] <dickatirc> there is tty output in classic xubuntu installer, so its possible to see where it get stucked
[18:59] <peyam> hi
[18:59] <peyam> The option "softwares & updates " is gone from setting manager
[18:59] <peyam> how do I fix it
[19:01] <brainwash> peyam: re-install software-properties-gtk
[19:02] <peyam> thank brainwash  :)
[19:04] <Dan_D> Hi there, got a slight issue. On the 'start menu' (button at top left) there is a section called 'Other'. It contains launchers that lead to programs I have deleted. How do I get rid of them? They do not show up in the settings manager!
[19:04] <Dan_D> And speaking of which, how do I generally delete launchers, not from the menu, but from the system generally, so they do not appear in things like the Open With application list when opening new file types
[19:05] <brainwash> 1) check  ~/.local/share/applications/
[19:05] <brainwash> 2) delete the application
[19:05] <Dan_D> How do I get to .local?
[19:06] <brainwash> press ctrl + h
[19:06] <Dan_D> Nothing changed, except hidden files became hidden again
[19:06] <brainwash> so there is no .local folder in your home folder?
[19:06] <Dan_D> Oh, in the home folder?
[19:07] <brainwash> yes
[19:07] <Dan_D> Got it
[19:07] <brainwash> ~ means home folder
[19:07] <Dan_D> So, delete all unwanted launchers?
[19:07] <brainwash> the one you don't need anymore
[19:07] <Dan_D> I can only see some
[19:07] <Dan_D> All the ones I want to get rid of are not there
[19:08] <Dan_D> Also, have to go to dinner now, be back soon
[19:08] <brainwash> ok
[19:10] <brainwash> Dan_D: you might also want to check /usr/share/applications/ which contains the system wide launchers (also the place to look if you don't actually want to delete any application -> question 2)
[19:36] <Dan_D> Ah, back. Thanks brainwash!
[20:35] <taza> Does Xubuntu 13.10 have Fake-PAE installer that doesn't require wizardry?
[20:36] <taza> +a
[20:36] <bekks> Whats "Fake-PAE"?
[20:37] <taza> Uh, it's a long story. If you know the answer, you can understand the question.
[20:37] <taza> tl;dr It's support for processors that have quirky feature support flags
[21:28] <Dan_D> How do I open a .deb via command line, if even possible?
[21:28] <bekks> Dan_D: Open it to do what?
[21:28] <Dan_D> Make it install whatever program it is for
[21:29] <Dan_D> Rather thn using the softa
[21:29] <Dan_D> *software centre to open it
[21:29] <bekks> apt-get install gimp     -- that would install gimp from commandline, e.g.
[21:29] <Dan_D> Ok
[21:29] <cloudbender> If I reinstall, will xubuntu detect my second monitor ?
[21:29] <Pici> *sudo
[21:29] <bekks> yeah, sudo apt-get...
[21:30] <Dan_D> So sudo apt-get install name-of-.deb
[21:30] <bekks> Dan_D: No. For installing a plain deb file, use sudo dpkg -i name.deb
[21:30] <Dan_D> AH, ok, thanks!
[21:42] <xubuntu597> how can i uninstall plugin icetea? i have removed to ubuntu software center
[21:43] <bazhang> apt-cache search iced
[21:43] <bazhang> icedtea-plugin
[21:44] <bazhang> sudo apt-get remove packagename
[21:47] <xubuntu597> does not work
[21:47] <bazhang> what is the error
[21:48] <xubuntu597> misses icetea
[21:50] <cloudbender> Is there a way to tell xubuntu to detect a second monitor ?
[21:50] <xubuntu597> web browser plugin to execute java applet
[21:52] <cloudbender> No takers ?
[21:52] <xubuntu597> Can not find the package packagename
[21:53] <bazhang> you use the actual package name, not "packagename"
[21:53] <knome> cloudbender, if you aren't afraid of command line, check 'xrandr -q'
[21:53] <bazhang> in this case it's icedtea-plugin
[21:54] <xubuntu597> a ok sorry
[21:54] <taza> So, is there a non-wizard way to install Xubuntu on a no-PAE laptop?
[21:54] <taza> Well, yes-PAE no-PAE-flag laptop, anyway
[21:55] <xubuntu597> can not find the packege icetea-plugin
[21:55] <knome> xubuntu597, it's icedtea-plugin.
[21:55] <Sysi> taza: I think 12.04 doesn't have pae by default
[21:55] <xubuntu597> ops sorry
[21:55] <knome> xubuntu597, i would suggest to reinstall ubuntu software center to handle your packages
[21:56] <taza> 12.04 doesn't, but I'd like a newer version
[21:56] <xubuntu597> sorry but someone speak italian?
[21:56] <knome> taza, you can upgrade to 14.04 from 12.04 in april
[21:56] <taza> knome: 14.04 will have native no-PAE?
[21:56] <knome> !it | xubuntu597
[21:57] <taza> Well, fake-PAE
[21:57] <knome> taza, i would imagine there is something that allows you to run it
[21:57] <cloudbender> knome thanks
[21:57] <knome> taza, especially since you have processor that actually supports PAE
[21:58] <knome> taza, there was some really simple fix for that (which should work for most of those machines), basically just add the word "pae" in /proc/cpuinfo (iirc)
[21:58] <cloudbender> ... and I suppose man xandr might not hurt either :)
[21:58] <taza> knome: So, do you actually know anything regarding 14.04 and fake-PAE?
[21:58] <knome> taza, Unit193 can confirm/tell you more about it
[21:58] <Unit193> >_>
[21:58] <knome> cloudbender, or arandr, if you prefer a GUI
[21:58] <cloudbender> k tnx
[21:58] <xubuntu597> sorry how can i get root mode?
[21:58] <taza> Because you sound like you're just half-remembering things that may or may not be accurate.
[21:58] <knome> taza, i don't have exact information (yet).
[21:59] <knome> taza, talk with Unit193. :)
[21:59] <Unit193> knome: It's a bit hacky, so I've stayed away from it (also only have PAE computers) nothing in the official repo.
[21:59] <knome> Unit193, i'm aware of that, but since it might be the only option for those people...
[21:59] <taza> So the tl;dr is "ignore everything knome has just said, and to be safe, put him on ignore". Got it.
[22:00] <bazhang> taza, please dont do that
[22:00] <taza> Anyway.
[22:00] <taza> Unit193: I'm aware of the Fake-PAE trickery and I also know how hard it is to install an OS doing it.
[22:00] <knome> taza, i would you to reconsider your attitude. thanks.
[22:00] <taza> That's why I would like a non-wizard way of doing it
[22:01] <bazhang> discussion of 14.04 is in #ubuntu+1 taza not here
[22:01] <taza> Well I actually want to install 13.10
[22:02] <xubuntu597> i have romeved!.... i think
[22:03] <taza> But since it's clear that you're more concerned with regular egos than with actually, y'know, helping people or discussing technology, I don't think I'll benefit from being here anyway.
[22:11] <cloudbender> well I apt-got ARandR but it still does not detect the second monitor
[22:11] <cloudbender> I'll try a fresh install
[22:16] <xubuntu248> Hi, I using 14.04 daily build, my laptop touchpad is being detected as a pointer "evdev pointer catchall" InputClass, with the result that there is no multitouch. I tried commenting that class out hoping that it would default to the touchpad but then the touchpad was non functional. Any suggestions ?
[22:23] <bazhang> !14.04 | xubuntu248
[22:25] <xubuntu248> as i said, im using the xubuntu 14.04 daily build http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/
[22:26] <bazhang> support in #ubuntu+1  <----- xubuntu248
[22:26] <bazhang>  /join #ubuntu+1
[22:26] <xubuntu248> thanks
[22:27] <xubuntu248> (even though its probably a general configuration issue)
[23:25] <xubuntu951> Hello. I'm new to all this. How do I enable Javascript or at least add exceptions for some websites
[23:27] <knome> xubuntu951, javascript should be enabled by default on firefox on xubuntu
[23:27] <xubuntu951> hmm, okay. I thought so. This one website is giving me an error
[23:27] <xubuntu951> thank you
[23:28] <Unit193> xubuntu951: What site?
[23:28] <Unit193> (And I can check it out, you may need some extra plugin or something.)
[23:28] <xubuntu951> it's a devry website
[23:29] <xubuntu951> my.devry.edu
[23:30] <xubuntu951> could I get those plug-ins from the Ubuntu software center?
[23:30] <Unit193> xubuntu951: You need java.
[23:31] <Unit193> icedtea-plugin should be the one.
[23:32] <xubuntu951> okay, i did download that and the java website is confirming I have it. so it must be a security setting i have
[23:34] <xubuntu951> Thanks for helping me out thogh :)
[23:35] <Unit193> It told me that I needed java and disable popup blocker (I have java disabled in the browser for added security.)
[23:36] <xubuntu951> how do i enable it?
[23:36] <xubuntu951> I swear I've been through all the settings
[23:37] <Unit193> about:plugins
[23:38] <Unit193> Err, tools > addons > plugins
[23:43] <xubuntu951> I'm getting :  command not found
[23:45] <Unit193> This would be in firefox, we're checking that the addon is enabled in Tools > Addons > Plugins
[23:45] <xubuntu951> okay, sorry, so new to this
[23:45] <Unit193> Noo problem, I'll just have slow response time, doing other stuff too.
[23:46] <xubuntu951> Ahh, I appreciate your time so much.  thank you, that worked it out.
[23:49] <Unit193> \o/