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pitti | Good morning | 06:46 |
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mlankhorst | g'day mate | 07:43 |
Laney | The following packages have unmet dependencies: xserver-xorg-core : Depends: libgcrypt20 (>= 1.6.1) but it is not installable | 09:14 |
Laney | mlankhorst: ↑ | 09:14 |
mlankhorst | worksforme? | 09:17 |
mlankhorst | seems more like a libgcrypt20 issue though :p | 09:17 |
Laney | doesn't work for the image build | 09:18 |
Laney | no | 09:18 |
Laney | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 09:18 |
mlankhorst | odd | 09:20 |
Laney | nah | 09:20 |
Laney | you need to get it put into main somehow | 09:20 |
mlankhorst | how does it even grab that as dependency.. | 09:21 |
mlankhorst | it should have used libgcrypt11-dev | 09:22 |
Laney | E: Package 'libgcrypt-dev' has no installation candidate libgcrypt-dev is a virtual package provided by: libgcrypt20-dev libgcrypt11-dev E: Using libgcrypt20-dev (no default, using first one) | 09:22 |
mlankhorst | yeah but xorg-server is a main package, it should not be able to build from universe | 09:23 |
Laney | ci train innit | 09:23 |
Laney | I think if you want 11 then build-depend on 11-dev | 09:24 |
Laney | the CI train stuff doesn't respect components :( | 09:24 |
mlankhorst | or nettle :P | 09:25 |
mlankhorst | is there any planned transition to libgcrypt20-dev? | 09:26 |
Laney | I'd just do a rebuild if I were you | 09:27 |
mlankhorst | yeah | 09:27 |
seb128 | mlankhorst, just do a non change rebuild | 09:28 |
mlankhorst | the ci train broke my build! | 09:32 |
mlankhorst | or rsalveti did | 09:33 |
Laney | I guess most people don't build-depend on pure virtual packages so it's probably quite unusual? | 09:33 |
* Laney shrug | 09:33 | |
Laney | are you doing the upload? | 09:33 |
mlankhorst | yeah | 09:34 |
Laney | ✔ | 09:36 |
seb128 | larsu, Laney: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/165133766/evince%20with%20no%20menu%20in%20xfce.png | 09:58 |
seb128 | current comment on bug #1131664 | 09:58 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1131664 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "The default apps should have standard menubars under Unity" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1131664 | 09:58 |
desrt | seb128: http://ur1.ca/gkpgm | 10:02 |
seb128 | xnox, hey, what are /usr/share/upstart/xdg/autostart/ for? | 10:32 |
seb128 | xnox, how is that different from /etc/xdg/autostart? | 10:32 |
xnox | seb128: it's an overlay added to XDG_CONFIG_DIRS, if and only if, the given user session is managed by upstart. | 10:33 |
seb128 | what's the point? | 10:33 |
xnox | seb128: typically if we convert a .desktop file to an upstart job, we want to override the xdg-autostart one to avoid race/clashes so one drops the override into /usr/share/upstart/xdg/autostart/ such that only upstart job is used | 10:34 |
seb128 | xnox, I see, thanks | 10:34 |
xnox | seb128: and if one happens to not have an upstart managed session, normal xdg autostart files are used. | 10:34 |
xnox | maybe i should have just patched all xdg/autostart implementations in the archive to check for the upstart jobs and launch that instead.... | 10:35 |
seb128 | xnox, thanks for the explanation, that makes sense to me now ;-) | 10:35 |
robert_ancell | xnox, is "start on started dbus and starting gnome-session DESKTOP_SESSION=ubuntu" a valid start line for unity-settings-daemon, i.e. is DESKTOP_SESSION defined for gnome-session? | 10:36 |
xnox | robert_ancell: yes, sounds reasonable. | 10:36 |
robert_ancell | xnox, also, can we do the inverse for gnome-settings-daemon, i.e. "DESKTOP_SESSION != ubuntu"? | 10:36 |
xnox | robert_ancell: i believe we did push back hard on making sure, e.g. Ubuntu Kylin, keeps using DESKTOP_SESSION=ubuntu instead of a custom string. | 10:37 |
xnox | but might be worth checking that. | 10:37 |
Laney | pretty sure we got them to de-brand that | 10:37 |
seb128 | Laney, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6884550/ wdyt? | 11:04 |
tjaalton | something broke alt+tab not showing the mouse cursor anymore | 12:00 |
tjaalton | my main desktop doesn't have that bug, but a recently upgraded laptop does | 12:00 |
tjaalton | filed as bug 1272284 | 12:01 |
tjaalton | just thinking where to reassign it | 12:01 |
ubot2` | tjaalton: Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1272284 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1272284). The error has been logged | 12:01 |
tjaalton | meh | 12:01 |
seb128 | tjaalton, new xorg? | 12:01 |
tjaalton | no | 12:01 |
mlankhorst | bug 1272284 | 12:01 |
tjaalton | it was filed way before it landed | 12:01 |
mlankhorst | yeah i heard, but I don't have that issue | 12:02 |
tjaalton | still? | 12:02 |
mlankhorst | I'm on radeon though | 12:02 |
tjaalton | hmm ok.. | 12:02 |
tjaalton | I'm all intel | 12:02 |
mlankhorst | seems to be intel issue, then :P | 12:03 |
tjaalton | but it was reported on nvidia | 12:03 |
tjaalton | so not that | 12:03 |
mlankhorst | hm | 12:03 |
seb128 | tjaalton, mlankhorst: compiz/unity didn't change for a long time | 12:03 |
mlankhorst | iirc tseliot had the same issue | 12:03 |
seb128 | but maybe Trevinho knows about the issue | 12:04 |
tseliot | what's the issue? | 12:04 |
mlankhorst | disappearing mouse cursor on alt tab | 12:04 |
Trevinho | tjaalton: not showing or not working | 12:04 |
Trevinho | tjaalton: there's a ccsm option for that, maybe it got changed | 12:05 |
tjaalton | both | 12:05 |
Trevinho | for sure I have it... on trunk | 12:06 |
mlankhorst | mouse disappears if I explicitly disable it in CCSM :P | 12:07 |
tjaalton | where's the option? | 12:07 |
mlankhorst | unity | 12:07 |
mlankhorst | switcher | 12:07 |
Trevinho | yes, or | 12:08 |
tjaalton | unchecked here | 12:08 |
Trevinho | real_size_ = Style::Get()->MenuItemNaturalSize(entry_->label()); | 12:08 |
Trevinho | ops | 12:08 |
Trevinho | gsettings get org.compiz.unityshell:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/ disable-mouse | 12:08 |
Trevinho | check it's not true | 12:08 |
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tjaalton | false on both | 12:09 |
tjaalton | although | 12:09 |
tjaalton | I've ran the updates already, but not booted the machine where I can't repro this | 12:10 |
Trevinho | mh, weird... I don't know if it was a regression, that is fixed in trunk... and trunk is much different from archive version | 12:10 |
tseliot | mlankhorst: I've never seen it here | 12:11 |
tjaalton | huh, another machine that was last updated on jan 17th is also affected | 12:12 |
tjaalton | guest session works | 12:12 |
tjaalton | so it's session specific | 12:12 |
tjaalton | yup, also on a machine updated today | 12:13 |
tjaalton | so it's not X/hw specific :) | 12:14 |
tjaalton | toggling the disable-mouse setting on and off fixed it... | 12:16 |
tjaalton | of course that "solution" doesn't scale | 12:16 |
tjaalton | moved the bug over to unity | 12:20 |
mlankhorst | tseliot: ok was tjaalton then :) | 12:23 |
tjaalton | I just bumped into the bug and tried :) | 12:24 |
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tseliot | xnox: are upstart jobs in /etc/init automatically updated when a package is updated? Or do I need to take care of that in the preinst script? | 12:48 |
xnox | tseliot: they are handled normally, as any other conffile. So by default you don't need to do anything. | 12:48 |
mpt | cyphermox_, reported bug 1277057 | 12:48 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1277057 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "network-manager doesn't respond after waking from suspend" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1277057 | 12:48 |
xnox | tseliot: but if you want to remove/delete one forever, you need to use dpkg-maintscripts-helper | 12:49 |
xnox | tseliot: see man $ dh_installdeb, package.maintscript -> rm_conffile | 12:49 |
xnox | tseliot: ditto mv_conffile to rename one | 12:49 |
tseliot | xnox: I just want to make sure that the old job (same path, same name) is upgraded to the new one | 12:50 |
xnox | tseliot: not sure if .maintscript was already support in precise, otherwise there is a wiki page in debian how to do it with pre/post inst/rm scripts. | 12:50 |
xnox | tseliot: yes, it will be. | 12:50 |
tseliot | xnox: ok, problem solved then. Thanks | 12:50 |
xnox | if it's part of the same binary package. | 12:50 |
tseliot | yep | 12:50 |
xnox | all good then. | 12:50 |
rsalveti | mlankhorst: sorry, but indeed, the ci train is not respecting the right components | 13:06 |
rsalveti | all I did was a bump :-) | 13:06 |
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mhr3_ | seb128, my tiny issue that i'd love being fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash-completion/+bug/568404 :) | 14:42 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 568404 in bash-completion (Ubuntu) "dpkg completion should support ddeb" [Wishlist,Fix released] | 14:42 |
mhr3_ | the status lies | 14:42 |
seb128 | mhr3_, sudo dpkg -i *.ddeb | 14:43 |
seb128 | ;-) | 14:43 |
seb128 | mhr3_, I see how to fix that, I can do it | 14:45 |
mhr3_ | seb128, \o/ | 14:46 |
seb128 | sil2100, didrocks: can I get a setttings silo? ;-) | 15:18 |
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sil2100 | seb128: uh oh! One moment ;) | 15:41 |
didrocks | robru: maybe? ^ | 15:42 |
robru | seb128, didrocks sil2100 : yeahhhh what what? | 15:42 |
seb128 | didrocks, I buy my slots from sil2100 usually: | 15:43 |
seb128 | ! | 15:43 |
didrocks | ahah! | 15:43 |
mdeslaur | seb128: do you think you or someone on your team could update pidgin to 2.10.9? | 15:48 |
seb128 | mdeslaur, trusty? | 15:49 |
mdeslaur | seb128: yes | 15:49 |
seb128 | mdeslaur, yeah, it's one of those cases where I would have done it if we didn't get a sponsoring request doing the update | 15:49 |
seb128 | mdeslaur, sponsoring request which is buggy, it's taking me longer to get the contributor to fix those stuff that it would have taken me to do the update | 15:50 |
mdeslaur | hrm | 15:50 |
seb128 | mdeslaur, anyway, I've it on my list since monday, I planned to finish the update myself today, going to do that in a bit | 15:51 |
seb128 | mdeslaur, thanks for the ping :-) | 15:51 |
mdeslaur | seb128: great, thanks! | 15:51 |
seb128 | yw | 15:51 |
mdeslaur | ah, I see the bug now, sorry for not checking first | 15:51 |
seb128 | mdeslaur, no worry | 15:52 |
attente_ | ChrisTownsend, hi, do you have time to help debug that failing AP test? | 15:53 |
robert_ancell | larsu, can you do a no-change commit to lp:~larsu/unity-control-center/wrap-keyboard-label and see if jenkins notices? | 15:57 |
ChrisTownsend | attente_: I plan on looking at it again this afternoon as I'm a bit tied up working some other AP failure issues? | 15:58 |
ChrisTownsend | attente_: It's possible I did something wrong, so I'll check it again since you and Trevinho don't have failures on that test. | 15:59 |
attente_ | ChrisTownsend, ok, no problem | 15:59 |
seb128 | bregma, hey, what's up with unity landing in trusty? can we get one? | 15:59 |
bregma | seb128, I would like that more than anything | 15:59 |
Trevinho | attente_: have you tried to get an unit test instead? As you know... AP is like our enemy right now blocking the releases... So I'd prefer to have more stable tests. | 16:00 |
seb128 | bregma, what's blocking? | 16:00 |
Trevinho | seb128: ap ^ | 16:00 |
bregma | seb128, ongoing issues with autopilot | 16:00 |
seb128 | Trevinho, bregma: are those regressions? | 16:00 |
ChrisTownsend | Oh boy... | 16:00 |
bregma | seb128, not in Unity | 16:01 |
seb128 | the current trusty version doesn't even build | 16:01 |
attente_ | Trevinho, a unit test for testing the keyboard accelerators? | 16:01 |
seb128 | we need an update plan, which is not "need autopilot to be fixed" | 16:01 |
Trevinho | attente_: I mean you can test the registration of compiz actions... (as they're tested in compiz code to work)... and so just faking the dbus server and trying to register them | 16:01 |
Trevinho | checkin you get what you expect | 16:02 |
Trevinho | attente_: see the gdbus server tests or gnome-session-manager ones | 16:02 |
ChrisTownsend | seb128: I've been working on these AP failures for weeks now trying to get them in check. This is the latest bug entered for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1276516 | 16:04 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1276516 in Unity "unity trunk failing autopilot tests (02/2014)" [High,New] | 16:04 |
ChrisTownsend | seb128: The vast majority of those failures are due to either machine issues or a bug in Autopilot itself. There are a few still tied to the AP test themselves in Unity which I will get fixed very soon, but as you can see from my comments in that bug, the results are not deterministic. | 16:05 |
ChrisTownsend | seb128: I also have a proposed fix for the AP bug, but it's still waiting to be reviewed. | 16:06 |
bregma | or, we could have them ignore the AP failures and release into distro anyway, but I can feel the burn already | 16:07 |
attente_ | Trevinho, i don't really understand what you mean by faking the dbus server, the key grabber is the server in this case | 16:08 |
seb128 | bregma, ChrisTownsend: thanks for the update, I hope you guys get those tests in shape soon, we could use an unity update, blocking the update might be creating more issues than it's solving | 16:09 |
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Trevinho | attente_: yes... But you have to use it in test-mode (that you supported) so basically using a test name... THen you just write a glib::proxy that calls it and you can verify that the actions are actually registered | 16:30 |
attente_ | Trevinho, this is just to test the accelerator registration/un-registration, right? how should we test the triggering of the actions? | 16:32 |
mlankhorst | what time's the team dinner? | 16:33 |
Trevinho | attente_: well, what you did is fine... but it's not testing that the whole thing works... So I'd suggest to open a window (there's a mocking python feature to create windows with the menus you want, but you can use also a very know window such as gnome-calc)... then you can check if the relative menu will open when an action is triggered | 16:34 |
attente_ | Trevinho, i don't mind adding those extra unit tests, but i think it'd be good if we can keep these AP tests anyways just to make sure the whole thing works | 16:34 |
Trevinho | attente_: all this is possible with AP | 16:34 |
Trevinho | attente_: fine for me, but they don't have to be unstable... | 16:35 |
Trevinho | attente_: so let's wait Chris results | 16:35 |
Trevinho | attente_: anyway for testing the whole thing, doing what i said is checking more | 16:35 |
attente_ | Trevinho, those AP tests already exist in the test_panel.py file | 16:35 |
Trevinho | attente_: ah... Cool, I forgot I wrote them :D | 16:36 |
attente_ | :P | 16:36 |
Trevinho | attente_: so... yes that's fine :) | 16:36 |
attente_ | ok, cool. i'll try to figure out with ChrisTownsend why they seem unreliable on his side | 16:37 |
attente_ | when he can spare some time | 16:37 |
mlankhorst | jasoncwarner: what time is the team dinner? | 16:47 |
jasoncwarner | 7pm | 16:47 |
jasoncwarner | probably meetin in lobby at 6:30pm | 16:47 |
jasoncwarner | mlankhorst: ^^ | 16:48 |
chrisccoulson | steak? | 16:48 |
jasoncwarner | chrisccoulson: NO STEAK FOR YOU! | 16:48 |
jasoncwarner | chrisccoulson: errr of course! | 16:48 |
chrisccoulson | hi jasoncwarner :) | 16:48 |
jasoncwarner | hi chrisccoulson ;) | 16:48 |
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Laney | can I have chrisccoulson's honorary steak? | 16:52 |
mlankhorst | oke | 16:52 |
mlankhorst | ty | 16:52 |
chrisccoulson | Laney, only if you have it uncooked | 16:52 |
ogra_ | geez, brits | 16:52 |
ogra_ | *you don't coock steak!!* | 16:52 |
ogra_ | :) | 16:52 |
Laney | steak can come cooked? | 16:53 |
mlankhorst | I can ask for a well done steak >:D | 16:53 |
ogra_ | heh | 16:53 |
Laney | I know someone who did that and then got thrown out of the restaurant by the chef | 16:54 |
mlankhorst | and then put curry and mayo on top | 16:54 |
ogra_ | lol | 16:55 |
Sarvatt | mlankhorst: get the kangaroo steak! :) | 16:58 |
mlankhorst | they're a pest in australia, anyway | 16:59 |
ogra_ | if you go after pest status in .au you need to eat frogs i guess | 17:07 |
mlankhorst | at least you don't have problems running over frogs in the shimmering light | 17:18 |
mlankhorst | can't say the same for kangaroos.. | 17:18 |
ogra_ | heh | 17:20 |
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Laney | lp:~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/panel-loader | 17:35 |
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mlankhorst | off to the lobby.. | 18:23 |
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ChrisTownsend | attente_: Hey, I'm re-running your AP test and still get the one failure. | 19:26 |
ChrisTownsend | attente_: Here is the output: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6887016 | 19:26 |
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attente_ | ChrisTownsend, hey, can you do: dbus-monitor "member='AcceleratorActivated'", then press shift+ctrl+alt+a? | 22:08 |
ChrisTownsend | attente_: D'oh, give me a few minutes to get my test machine back to running your branch. I'm about to push a fix for something else, so it'll be a few minutes. | 22:12 |
attente_ | ChrisTownsend, no worries, thanks for your help :) | 22:13 |
ChrisTownsend | attente_: Ok, I'm running your branch and run I run dbus-monitor, I get nothing. | 22:22 |
ChrisTownsend | attente_: I'm wondering if Terminator is eating the key combo... | 22:23 |
ChrisTownsend | attente_: I see it loose focus and come back when I hit that combo. I'll try this in gnome-terminal. | 22:23 |
ChrisTownsend | attente_: Nope, that didn't help. | 22:25 |
attente_ | so dbus-monitor reports nothing... weird | 22:25 |
ChrisTownsend | attente_: Right. | 22:25 |
attente_ | ChrisTownsend, ok, it seems i'm also in a state where none of the tests work | 22:38 |
attente_ | so i'll try to figure it out on my side tomorrow and ping you again if i need help | 22:39 |
ChrisTownsend | attente_: Ok, sounds good. Have a good night! | 22:39 |
attente_ | ChrisTownsend, thanks! | 22:40 |
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