=== Guest47292 is now known as jrib === elacheche_anis is now known as Wahid-TN === Wahid-TN is now known as elacheche_anis === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away === slickymaster is now known as slickyma1ter === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying === slickyma1ter is now known as slickymaster === slickymaster is now known as slickyma1ter === slickyma1ter is now known as slickymaster === e^0 is now known as sudo === e^0 is now known as e^0_ === doko_ is now known as doko === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube === greyback is now known as greyback|away [16:00] slangasek: I'm doing 12.04.4 right now - can I be excused from the meeting? My report basically reads "* 12.04.4 * Miscellaneous transitions and stuff" [16:00] cjwatson: ok :) [16:00] #startmeeting [16:00] Meeting started Thu Feb 6 16:00:53 2014 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [16:01] [TOPIC] Lightning round === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round [16:02] $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox stokachu) [16:02] stgraber slangasek jodh stokachu cjwatson xnox barry bdmurray doko [16:02] stgraber: you first :) [16:03] Short week, was off on Monday. [16:03] Spent some time preparing/testing 12.04.4 (mostly for Edubuntu). [16:03] Working towards LXC beta4, ton of reviews, some discussions on fixing our logging story, some more bugfixes here and there, ... [16:03] Patch piloted yesterday. [16:03] Making slow progress on system-image, trying to get those tests done finally (found some more regressions), then have to add some features requested by ogra. [16:03] (DONE) [16:03] oh, patch pilot, I think i had one last week, but obviously skipped. [16:05] * spending a lot of time on customer engagements this week [16:05] * finished the protobuf ABI transition [16:05] * introduced a regression by merging a newer protobuf from Debian that broke ABI; thanks to cjwatson for cleaning up the mess [16:05] * some timely NEW processing for packages needed at the cloud sprint [16:05] (done) [16:05] * core-1311-upstart-roadmap [16:05] - async-spawn: Grinding through the test code and updating for new async [16:05] behaviour (necessitating porting most of the tests to use a proper [16:05] main loop). [16:05] - cgroup support: Updated spec, parser and parser tests after discussions with [16:05] stgraber on enhanced cgroup stanza syntax (see [16:05] http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Cgroup). Need to identify how best to [16:05] add handle adding cgroup paths to set of paths "owned" by Upstart [16:05] (either way, requires async branch). [16:05] * upstart: [16:05] - reviewed https://code.launchpad.net/~cameronnemo/upstart/ipv6/+merge/204599 [16:06] ➿ [16:07] stokachu: anything this week? :) [16:09] letting cjwatson off the hook for 12.04.4 [16:09] xnox: [16:09] * mostly catch up on everything from last week. [16:09] * worked with barry/phonedations on getting py2/3 compatible runners: [16:09] - barry is doing the autopilot merge proposal [16:09] - i'm working with sergio on the phablet-test-run portion [16:09] * fixed partman-btrfs failing to format btrfs volumes [16:09] * tracking down 12.04.4 .0 stack bug which prevents automatic LUKS [16:09] encrypted installation for x/kubuntu, cryto-modules-3.2-udeb is missing [16:09] xts module, apw proposed a fix for that already. [16:09] * worked with till, on cups socket activation, more work is needed to [16:10] get it properly working, see upstart bug report. [16:10] * helped with some 12.04.4 iso testing and generated-signed wubi [16:10] build, also spotted that wubi builds were out of date, now fixed by [16:10] cjwatson. [16:10] * helped smoser to fix overlayroot to work with cryptsetup from saucy [16:10] and newer, the change of "not including crypto modules by default" [16:10] resulted in regressing "covert launched cloud instance to [16:10] full-disk-encryption" with overlayroot. Fix is in overlayroot, [16:10] initramfs hooks configuration to export flag variable to force [16:10] crypto module inclusion. [16:10] * uploaded all patches for "messages-less shutdown" into trusty. After [16:10] confirming successful testing from all of my systems and Timo's [16:10] systems (precise ones). If you see messages on shutdown on up to [16:10] date trusty let me know. [16:10] * Investigating to drop gtk2 from ubuntu-touch images. (lol, yes...) [16:10] * I'm taking next friday off, for a volleyball tournament. [16:10] .. [16:10] xnox: what's the status of phablet-test-run? [16:11] barry: there is a branch, it's partial and has a bug i and sergios need to work out. [16:11] barry: "work in progress" =) [16:11] xnox: cool. [16:11] gtk2! [16:11] u-d-m/s-i debugging (bugs against u-d-m filed) [16:11] barry: i'm hoping to get it done today. [16:11] slangasek: tell me about it! [16:11] =)))) [16:11] +1 for dropping ;) [16:11] autopilot py3 porting; window-mocker py3 support; unity7 & unity8 autopilot testing. fun fact: autopilot tests now seem to cpu peg X and make it totally unresponsive (will check again after dist-upgrade). [16:11] done [16:11] slangasek: there is 56MB worth of cruft to be dropped there. [16:12] slangasek: unlike autopilot, which we like are actually using ;-) [16:12] * slangasek nods [16:12] oh the above X problem is when `autopilot run autopilot` ;) [16:13] autopilot run autopilot? [16:14] slangasek: yes, run autopilot's own autopilot tests [16:14] strange [16:14] since autopilot isn't a gui [16:14] what do those do? [16:15] they test some basic functionality of autopilot, which is why we had to port window-mocker. it's a sample app/framework that autopilot's own ap tests use [16:15] ah, ok [16:15] bdmurray: [16:15] i think the window-mocker port is largely done, but not yet landed [16:16] submitted merge proposal for canonical-is-puppet to stop updating unique users for Raring [16:16] setup and tested error tracker refusal of crash reports from Raring [16:16] submitted rt regarding updating daisy to r407 and 408 [16:16] submitted rt regarding getting core dumps from the error tracker [16:16] tested back population of rls:src_pkg:version counters [16:16] wrote a cronjob to look for unsubbed packages being added to main [16:16] fixed unattended-upgrades bug 1272381 regarding python3.4 build failure [16:16] bug 1272381 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "test failures with python 3.4" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1272381 [16:16] manually retraced some crash reports with core dumps from swift [16:17] +1 maintenance work [16:17] ⁂ done⁂ [16:17] doko: here? [16:18] - sprint, and Fosdem [16:18] - openjdk-6 updates [16:18] - component mismatches, fix some ftbfs, MIRs [16:18] - look at test rebuild ftbfs, addressing the python 3.4 issues first [16:18] - if somebody has an idea for the ~200 php ftbfs, please let me know [16:18] (done) [16:19] ah, pointer to the php failures? [16:19] http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20140127-trusty.html [16:20] all of the form [16:20] dh build --buildsystem=phppear --with phppear [16:20] dh_testdir -O--buildsystem=phppear [16:20] dh_auto_configure -O--buildsystem=phppear [16:20] dh_auto_build -O--buildsystem=phppear [16:20] PHP Notice: Array to string conversion in /usr/share/php/PEAR.php on line 1053 [16:20] [pear_error: message="Parsing of package.xml from file "/build/buildd/php-image-text-0.6.1/Image_Text-0.6.1/package.xml" failed" code=2 mode=return level=notice prefix="" info="Array"] [16:20] doko: what's an example of a php package on there? [16:20] dh_auto_build: /usr/share/pkg-php-tools/scripts/phppkginfo -d package . returned exit code 1 [16:20] make: *** [build] Error 1 [16:20] php-image-text [16:21] ok [16:21] * xnox should probably update debhelper with support for a new stanza in $package.maintscripts i've seen a couple FTBFS due to that. [16:21] so I guess it'll be something simple, we just need to track down some bug in the phppear build system support [16:22] bdmurray: maybe you could take a look at that, under +1maint? [16:22] slangasek: okay [16:23] bdmurray: thanks [16:23] anything else, status-wise? [16:25] xnox: are you getting useful feedback from the team wrt the emulator + autopilot? [16:26] slangasek: i get reports from people, that it at times may fail to boot. But that appears to be a low percentage. [16:26] slangasek: sdk team are integrating using ubuntu-emulator into sdk. [16:26] I bet that's the bug where the clock sometimes stops [16:27] slangasek: and after the friday move of CI to phablet-test-run, it should be easier to integrate emulator into jenkins, then we will have more recorded attempts as to what's happening there. [16:27] slangasek: could well be that. [16:27] any news on the android 4.4.2 rebase? Phonedations seemed to think that would come together early this week [16:28] slangasek, waiting for Mir [16:28] * slangasek is hoping 4.4 will fix the stopped-clock problem [16:28] slangasek: i have 4.4 source code, but i didn't build / try emulator under it yet. [16:28] (at scale) [16:28] ogra_: as in, Mir is ahead of it in the landing queue, or Mir needs some changes to work with 4.4? [16:31] well, we can take that up out of band [16:31] [TOPIC] AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB [16:31] anything else? [16:32] [16:32] clearly everyone is still jet lagged ;) [16:32] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:32] Meeting ended Thu Feb 6 16:32:50 2014 UTC. [16:32] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-02-06-16.00.moin.txt [16:32] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-02-06-16.00.html [16:32] ok, thanks everyone :) [16:32] thanks! [16:33] ta! [16:33] thanks! [16:37] thanks! [16:37] slangasek, the latter, Mir hwcomposer support needs to land [16:37] slangasek, the 1.4 Mir that landed last night is already weeks old (as usual with Mir) [16:38] ok [16:38] once thats in autopilot needs fixing (i found today) it hardcodes the 4 arches we support and cant run on anything else [17:00] #startmeeting Community Council [17:00] Meeting started Thu Feb 6 17:00:30 2014 UTC. The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [17:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Community Council Meeting | Current topic: [17:00] #chair cprofitt elfy [17:00] Current chairs: cprofitt elfy pleia2 [17:00] thanks for getting us started pleia2 [17:00] ok, who all is here for the CC meeting? :) [17:01] here [17:01] yep - here [17:01] ok, so today we have a check in with the forums team and translations team scheduled [17:02] I believe translations sent apologies [17:02] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda [17:02] one person said she couldn't make it, no replies from anyone else :\ [17:02] yes [17:03] * mhall119 is here for ~15 minutes [17:03] we'll do forums first then, see if we can round up some translations folks [17:03] #topic forums check in === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Community Council Meeting | Current topic: forums check in [17:03] any news, comments, questions or concerns from the forums at this time? [17:04] Forum is good, we've had some issues with vB again - but IS have been extremely helpful [17:04] glad to hear it \o/ [17:04] only thing that we're likely to need help with is the voting for the staff issue you're aware of [17:05] we're probably looking at doing similar to that which councils use for it - condorcet via launchpad [17:05] * pleia2 nods [17:05] I'll have anohter look at the thread, I don't remember if you still need input from the cc [17:06] not at the moment - once we've got a clearer plan we'll come back to the CC [17:06] o/ [17:06] sorry, I'm a bit late [17:06] sounds good. [17:06] but we're looking to get it going sooner rather than later [17:06] hey dholbach [17:06] hi dholbach [17:07] great, thanks elfy [17:07] the hardest bit for us will be the voting [17:07] nothing else from FC [17:08] the CC has a script that yokozar improved that exports public email addresses from launchpad for use in condorcet, let us know and we'll send the link your way [17:08] (he said he'd publish it somewhere, need to follow up) [17:08] YokoZar: hey, did you publish that pull-emails-from-lp script somewhere public? [17:08] yep - I knew who to talk to wabout that :) [17:09] pleia2: no, but I can put it up on github today [17:09] I never checked in again.. is the forums council and the forums moderators situation resolved now? [17:10] dholbach: which situation? [17:10] the voting issue? [17:10] the FC was being restaffed recently, right? [17:10] YokoZar: thanks :) [17:10] is it fully staffed again? [17:10] dholbach: yep [17:10] dholbach: this is for staff, not council [17:11] ah ok [17:11] thanks [17:12] alright, so it sounds like all is well in forums land, thanks elfy [17:12] perfect [17:12] yep :) [17:13] no one here from the translations team, it would be good to still check in with them at a later date to make sure things are on track for the LTS [17:13] dpm: ^^ [17:13] we'll see if his wifi is working [17:13] * AlanBell has an AOB item for the end [17:14] hey all, I happen to be here, so Mike asked me if I could participate [17:14] I've not been working on translations for a while, so the status is not much different as last time: [17:15] folks are rocking doing translations in LP as ever, but we still need a champion or a team to coordinate translations [17:16] dpm, are you aware of any issues the teams are currently facing? in terms of blockers? [17:16] dpm: do you know if the team has any plans to make this happen? and is it a blocker for a well-translated LTS? [17:16] the last time the translations folks came to us (late 2012) they were really struggling with knowing when translations opened, etc [17:17] I think the main thing is that the team members have become busy with other things. We've had Pierre leading the team for a while, but I've not heard from him for a while [17:18] the process of opening translations and managing translations in LP is documented in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTranslationsCoordinators - but it's not very discoverable [17:18] good to know [17:18] restaffing the lp:~ubuntu-translations-coordinators team might be a way to go forward [17:18] sounds like it might be worth having the CC nudge the coordinators (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators) again and see where things are [17:18] yeah [17:19] we'll be in touch then (you're the owner of that team) [17:19] yeah [17:19] dpm, but in terms of technical blockers you have nothing on your radar? [17:19] yes, I do have something [17:20] language pack building has no owner, although I've seen uploads happening for trusty [17:21] dpm, has pitti been doing this up until now? === greyback|away is now known as greyback [17:22] dholbach, he was the owner until he moved from desktop to QA, which was a while ago [17:22] dpm, do you know who uploads the packages now? [17:22] I don't know, but I can have a look at the latest upload, just a sec [17:24] ok... according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-de-base/1:14.04+20131212 it's still pitti [17:24] yeah [17:24] so is the team blocked on pitti getting around to it and pushing all the packages? [17:24] dpm, ^ do you know? [17:25] dholbach, I think it's more no one assigned to do the work and pitti being awesome and picking the task as usual [17:25] yeah, that sounds very much like pitti :) [17:25] :) [17:26] is "pinging pitti" or "mail ubuntu-desktop@lists.u.c" inconvenient for the team and the task is sitting there for a while? [17:27] It's a combination of the two things: [17:28] the Ubuntu coordinators team not being active means no one has had the time to do the pinging or to find out who to ping. Also, for me personally I'm always concerned about loading him with more work. [17:28] sure :/ [17:29] maybe the team would just need a calendar reminder for each of the freezes (or something), so they ping the ubuntu-desktop@ list [17:29] (or whatever's appropriate) [17:29] I should really find some time to resolve this, but I think I've been promising that on every meeting I've been, sorry :( [17:30] the calendar is a good idea, but first we'd need some restaffing, as the current members have all moved to other projects, real life has kicked in, etc. [17:31] brb [17:31] ok, I'll take an action item to follow up with current folks and nudge some of the active members I know to get their thoughts [17:31] #action pleia2 to follow up with translations team about coordinator restaffing [17:31] ACTION: pleia2 to follow up with translations team about coordinator restaffing [17:32] thanks for joining us dpm [17:32] Thank you [17:32] thanks pleia2 [17:32] #topic Any other business [17:32] no worries, thanks pleia2 and everyone === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Community Council Meeting | Current topic: Any other business [17:33] back [17:33] AlanBell: you mentioned you had something [17:33] yeah, hi all o/ [17:33] * hggdh waves [17:33] so we have had an issue with the floodbots [17:33] * pleia2 nods [17:34] I did a summary of the situation to the lists here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2014-February/001651.html [17:34] basically they have been turned off and are not coming back [17:35] they are proprietary code that does not give us software freedom, and without freedom zero we can't even run them [17:35] I agreed with hggdh's comment that it's not appropriate to use a proprietary tool for this anyway, so in spite of the unfortunate situation that caused them to be shut off, I think in general it's a move in the right direction [17:35] I'm also in agreement that rolling the necessary features into an existing opensource bot is the right direction [17:35] do you know if there's a free plugin that's available somewhere already (even if it doesn't have all the answers)? [17:36] dholbach: #2 on that summary seems closest [17:36] there is a free software plugin for the accidental paste protection [17:36] dholbach: there are quite a lot of them [17:36] ah... I was wondering if you had a favourite already [17:36] there is nothing for the rather cool stuff they do in terms of quarantining unregistered users and presenting captchas etc [17:37] ubot-fr has one plugin, there is another supybot plugin on github that would be useable, pici has been implementing yet another one [17:37] as mhall119 said in the thread, perhaps #2 and work toward #3 by asking community members for coding help? [17:37] wow, it seems like it's all about choice [17:38] * mhall119 again volunteers to help try and recruit community folks tohelp [17:38] yeah, we have had a few volunteers which is great [17:38] ok, we gotta go eat before the food is all gone [17:38] I think we really need to go with #2 and then address the other issues as they arise [17:38] AlanBell: you know where to find me anytime :) [17:38] thanks mhall119 [17:39] Is it a matter of using what's there or does something new need to be written? [17:40] for paste protection, using what is there === TheLordOfTime is now known as teward [17:40] for advanced features, we would need to identify them first [17:41] hggdh: would it be useful for us to start a collaborative notepad (not sure which one we use these days) session to list those? [17:42] well I kind of did identify them at a high level in the mail [17:43] in fact . . . http://pad.ubuntu.com/2eBaBGbJyk [17:43] rww: so, there you go :-) [17:43] I like the idea, makes it more dynamic [17:44] so, that is where we are, and roughly what we are doing about it, I mainly wanted to take advantage of the CC meeting today to let you all know what was going on [17:44] thanks AlanBell :) [17:44] thanks a lot for looking into this [17:45] the change might make things a bit hard for some time, but I'm quite sure you're doing the right thing :) [17:45] anyone else have anything before we wrap up? [17:45] dholbach: yeah, like most proprietary code it is kind of convenient to use, but RMS tends to be right in the end :) [17:46] Thank you [17:47] * dholbach is all set [17:47] ok, thanks everyone [17:47] we have Xubuntu & Ubuntu Studio on the schedule for the meeting on the 20th [17:47] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [17:47] Meeting ended Thu Feb 6 17:47:57 2014 UTC. [17:47] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-02-06-17.00.moin.txt [17:47] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-02-06-17.00.html [21:18] @BartOC3 [21:18] naudy: Error: "BartOC3" is not a valid command. [21:18] @BartOC3 [21:18] naudy: Error: "BartOC3" is not a valid command. [21:18] Please do, BartOC3. [21:18] You can just do this and it should highlight this to them. === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson === pcwhite is now known as PaulW2U [21:56] ping slickymaster , BartOC3 , belkinsa , elacheche_anis - are you all ready for the meeting? :) [21:57] I am. And I have for weeks now. [21:57] Yep s-fox :) [21:57] yes s-fox [21:57] I think you are missing one, s-fox. [21:57] hi guys [21:58] LuisCano and rhosigma [21:58] sorry for being late [21:58] Well, missing two rather. ;) [21:58] slickymaster: we're early. i'm trying to find out who is here - we've got a few people tonight to do :) [21:59] yes s-fox, the table is quite full :) [22:01] Just waiting for more of the board to make their presence known... [22:01] s-fox, somewhat unrelated, but what's the process nowadays; do you still have designated membership board members for each timeslot? if not, how's quorum handled? [22:01] o/ [22:01] knome: we have 2 boards based on a time, rather than a time zone / continent [22:01] IdleOne: Well fancy meeting you here. [22:01] knome: we try to get a quorum of at least 4 or 5 members [22:02] Unit193: I travel in varied circles :) [22:02] s-fox, oki. can't see the who the boards consist of? :) [22:02] (just for... fun(?)) [22:02] !rmb [22:02] cjohnston, cyphermox, Destine, ejat, hggdh, IdleOne, iulian, micahg, Pendulum, PabloRubienes, freeflying, jared, amachu, and bkerensa. Meeting time. [22:02] err not bkerensa [22:02] * nlsthzn gets comfortable with some popcorn in hand [22:03] "not you!" [22:03] IdleOne: that list seem out of date :/ [22:03] the IRC action needs updating..I wonder who can do that... [22:03] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-membership-board/+members#active [22:03] I'd hope [22:03] i can update the factoid. [22:03] s-fox: indeed [22:04] who do I remove/add? [22:04] iirc bkerensa is not on the board anymore. i also seem to be missing [22:05] alright, i'm going to start the meeting... [22:05] ubottu: rmb is cjohnston, cyphermox, Destine, ejat, hggdh, IdleOne, iulian, micahg, Pendulum, PabloRubienes, freeflying, jared, s-fox and amachu. Meeting time. [22:05] But rmb already means something else! [22:05] !no rmb is cjohnston, cyphermox, Destine, ejat, hggdh, IdleOne, iulian, micahg, Pendulum, PabloRubienes, freeflying, jared, s-fox and amachu. Meeting time. [22:05] I'll remember that IdleOne [22:05] thank you [22:05] good bot [22:05] go go go [22:05] #startmeeting 2200 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board [22:05] Meeting started Thu Feb 6 22:05:41 2014 UTC. The chair is s-fox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [22:05] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 2200 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: [22:05] Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the 1200 UTC meeting for February 6, 2014. [22:06] oops, oh well... [22:06] 2200UTC [22:06] i know :) [22:06] The wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards [22:06] We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. [22:06] The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). [22:06] Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. [22:07] During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. [22:07] When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!) [22:07] #voters cjohnsto iulian IdleOne hggdh s-fox chilicuil [22:07] Warning: Nick not in channel: cjohnsto [22:07] Warning: Nick not in channel: iulian [22:07] Current voters: IdleOne chilicuil cjohnsto hggdh iulian s-fox [22:07] before i go further have i forgotten any of the board? [22:08] o/ [22:08] IdleOne, you seem to be missing chilicuil from the factoid [22:08] Hello [22:08] will fix that thank you [22:08] IdleOne, and it's PabloRubianes, not PabloRubienes :) [22:08] #voters cjohnston micahg-work [22:08] Current voters: IdleOne chilicuil cjohnsto cjohnston hggdh iulian micahg-work s-fox [22:08] (information provided by users themself via Launchpad) [22:09] alright. i think that is us all. i can add later if someone else comes along. [22:09] Now, without any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant... [22:09] Mi wiki is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LuisCano [22:09] err [22:09] slickymaster: [22:09] You are not first, Luiscano. [22:09] o/ [22:10] Luiscano: please wait your turn. [22:10] Please wait for your name to be called :) [22:10] Err, sorry. [22:10] My name is David Pires, I am 45 years old, live in Porto, a fabulous city in the north of Portugal, and I work in a Portuguese government agency as a programmer, primarily in Java and SQL, since 1994. [22:10] #subtopic slickymaster [22:10] ups [22:10] s-fox, is it alright for me to start? [22:11] slickymaster: yes please! [22:11] My name is David Pires, I am 45 years old, live in Porto, a city in the north of Portugal, and I work in a Portuguese government agency as a programmer, primarily in Java and SQL, since 1994. [22:11] my launchpad id is https://launchpad.net/~slickymaster [22:12] my wiki page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/slickymaster [22:12] I started using Linux by the time of Jaunty Jackalope release, in 2009, and since then I've tried several other Linux distributions such as Arch Linux, CentOS and Debian, but I always came back, one way or the other, to the one I feel more comfortable with, which is (X)Ubuntu [22:13] is there any thing else you'd think it could be relevant? [22:13] thanks for your good work on the qa team slickymaster, without looking deeper I think I'm ready to vote on this application [22:13] i've seen your activity on the forums, especially in programming talk! [22:13] :) [22:13] slickymaster has been contributing lately to xubuntu in QA and documentation, and has been very helpful. [22:13] that's a surprise s-fox [22:13] I highly support slickymaster's application for membership. He's been a wonderful help to Xubuntu docs and QA, always willing and eager to help, be it writing testcases for QA, or entire new sections in the docs! [22:14] "lately" being... some time already :) [22:14] * elfy only ever writes testimonials for people that deserve it, not much more I can say than what I already have, but it's the only time I remember actually turning up to a membership meeting for someone else [22:14] slickymaster is also amazing member of NewDocs and aways works with the other members to get things done in the team and the project. [22:14] and yep, as i wrote in his wikipage, i will feel let down by the board if you don't approve him ;) [22:14] I said similar :) [22:14] (well not as i wrote, but what i implied...) [22:14]