| bazhang | time for +r? | 00:13 |
|---|---|---|
| bazhang | more of that hacked website denizens have arrived | 00:13 |
| === Guest47292 is now known as jrib | ||
| k1l | gnah, tabfail while multitasking :/ | 00:29 |
| k1l | btw: floodbot would have set a mute on the user, again | 00:29 |
| k1l | so, imho, the testing has failed after one day. | 00:30 |
| === knome is now known as slickymaster | ||
| === slickymaster is now known as knome | ||
| IdleOne | lol | 01:24 |
| IdleOne | you kicked a staffer | 01:24 |
| IdleOne | ah I see. probably a tab fail | 01:24 |
| LjL | IdleOne: the day i kick a staffer, i hope it will be 100% intentional | 01:25 |
| IdleOne | me too :) | 01:26 |
| rww | psh, i kick staffers all the time | 01:30 |
| * rww kicks ldunn | 01:30 | |
| ldunn | ow | 01:32 |
| k1l | seems like no chance to set -r without the idiots coming back | 01:51 |
| ldunn | it will probably be a while, yes | 01:51 |
| rww | k1l: next time, can you /ctcp nick website before nuking them? | 01:52 |
| k1l | what is this all about? | 01:52 |
| rww | should tell us where they're from | 01:52 |
| k1l | rww: yes, i try | 01:52 |
| rww | ta | 01:52 |
| ldunn | realmofthemadgod.com has been hacked and someone's put an iframe to fn webchat there instead, as far as I can make out (I do not particularly advise visiting that site) | 01:53 |
| rww | why is that URL familiar | 01:53 |
| ldunn | shrug | 01:54 |
| k1l | -teddybaersawesom- WEBSITE http://realmofthemadgod.com/ << ctcp website | 01:59 |
| k1l | can we ban that somehow? or is this a task for staff? | 02:01 |
| ldunn | I don't think there's a particularly nice way of handling this | 02:03 |
| rww | not unless you want to drop a bot in #ubuntu, no | 02:04 |
| Pici | is it hitting #ubuntu specifically? or | 02:05 |
| ldunn | at the moment, yes | 02:05 |
| ldunn | it's been moving around | 02:05 |
| k1l | i dont get aynthing at that url. | 02:06 |
| Pici | me either | 02:06 |
| ldunn | it's a bit temperamental, it seems | 02:06 |
| LjL-Card | so wait why am i not seeing any CTCPs anyway | 02:08 |
| Pici | so.. setting +r right now is shoving people into #ubuntu-unregged | 02:08 |
| Pici | (aside, my flood detection test seems to have caught at least some of this) | 02:09 |
| LjL-Card | maybe my ZNC caught it too and filtered the CTCPs out, because i didn't really notice a thing | 02:09 |
| LjL-Card | also are you quite sure not letting *any* unregistered user join is better than just setting a ban or mute on the webchat | 02:11 |
| Pici | k1l: #ubuntu-unregged is +m, so no one except ops can see what others are posting, so theres no real need to kick people out | 02:52 |
| k1l | Pici: yep, i saw that its +mz. but it annoyed me | 02:53 |
| Pici | okay ;) | 02:53 |
| Pici | I've never heard of rotmg until today | 02:56 |
| k1l | yep | 02:56 |
| hggdh | well, they seem to have some faithful following, albeit slightly deficient on communication | 02:57 |
| k1l | <zsw_> im zack from yesterday | 02:58 |
| Pici | updated the topic in -unregged, no idea if it will be read | 03:02 |
| LjL-Card | topics exist to be read | 03:02 |
| k1l | no one ever reads topics. that should be clear | 03:02 |
| hggdh | prolly not, but it is always worth a try | 03:02 |
| k1l | at least not the ones, that should read it | 03:03 |
| Pici | I put the Ubuntu stuff in the front | 03:03 |
| Pici | thats really all I'm worried about | 03:03 |
| LjL-Card | sorry, i typoed... i meant to say, topics are there to be able to say people should have read them | 03:03 |
| LjL-Card | let me understand something, if i understood this correctly that you said these are CTCPs | 03:11 |
| LjL-Card | (though i didn't see any) | 03:11 |
| LjL-Card | isn't chanmode +C supposed to stop them? | 03:11 |
| Pici | I never saw a CTCP | 03:11 |
| Pici | (also, now these people in -unregged are pm-ing me for some reason) | 03:12 |
| LjL-Card | so wait what *was* happening | 03:12 |
| Pici | Looks like some flash game's website was hacked and they put a freenode webchat widget on there pointed at #ubuntu | 03:12 |
| rww | do we perhaps want to set #ubuntu +f #ubuntu-unegged? | 03:13 |
| rww | unregged, even | 03:13 |
| LjL-Card | you mean it isn't? | 03:13 |
| rww | not according to my client.. | 03:13 |
| k1l | rww: i set a forward already | 03:13 |
| Pici | rww: a forward was set on the webchat alone | 03:13 |
| LjL-Card | rww: in that case, it would be hard to explain why apparently so many people are in -unregged | 03:13 |
| IdleOne | I don't think we need to forward all unregged users to -unregged | 03:13 |
| k1l | * k1l setzt einen Bann auf *!*@gateway/web/freenode/*$#ubuntu-unregged | 03:13 |
| LjL-Card | Pici: well, #ubuntu should generally *always* be +f #ubuntu-unregged though | 03:13 |
| k1l | i banned all webchats to -unregged. but since the liveops are online right now i can go to sleep. gn8 | 03:14 |
| LjL-Card | the what | 03:15 |
| LjL-Card | Pici must be the one he's talking about | 03:15 |
| Pici | :( | 03:15 |
| Pici | rww: its like watching a train wreck | 03:16 |
| rww | Pici: it's kind of hilarious | 03:18 |
| Pici | anyway, my flood detect stuff is hooked into irssi at the moment, since I didn't feel like spooling up a new supybot | 03:22 |
| Pici | #ubuntu-unregged, teaching people to not read the topic since uh.. a few hours ago | 03:40 |
| phunyguy | Maybe we need to actually mute the channel (-z) and put an onjoin message. | 03:55 |
| rww | phunyguy: IRCC needs to do that, it's mlocked | 03:55 |
| * phunyguy nudges Pici | 03:55 | |
| LjL-Card | i'm not entirely sure who -z would benefit aside from making ops see slightly less noise | 03:55 |
| phunyguy | LjL-Card: it would force them to stop what they are doing, and read | 03:56 |
| LjL-Card | how | 03:56 |
| phunyguy | what good is the noise doing? | 03:56 |
| Pici | it would just give people a messsage that they couldn't talk and they'd still probably be writing in the chat | 03:56 |
| rww | LjL-Card: because every time they type they'd get an error | 03:56 |
| phunyguy | So? | 03:56 |
| LjL-Card | ah, that'd help them so much | 03:56 |
| phunyguy | is there a form of on join message that only speaks to them? | 03:57 |
| phunyguy | /notice maybe? | 03:57 |
| rww | phunyguy: ChanServ entrymsg | 03:57 |
| LjL-Card | i don't even understand what you're asking | 03:57 |
| phunyguy | or is that the function of a bot? | 03:57 |
| rww | dunno where webchat puts it tho | 03:57 |
| phunyguy | we can try it out | 03:57 |
| LjL-Card | it's a NOTICE so probably the same place it puts the error | 03:57 |
| phunyguy | #ubuntu-sandpit | 03:57 |
| IdleOne | probably puts the /notice in the server tab | 03:58 |
| phunyguy | oh... :( | 03:58 |
| phunyguy | so noise it is. | 03:58 |
| IdleOne | this way it only annoys us if we are actually looking at the channel | 03:58 |
| phunyguy | well yeah I wasn't worried about that, I was more worried about them not realizing what is going on and just talking instead of listeining | 03:58 |
| IdleOne | technology rarely helps people pay more attention | 03:59 |
| LjL-Card | phunyguy: the only way they would possibly realize what is going on is someone interacting with them about it. they look like they're the least IRC-savvy kind of people imaginable. they won't take some automated message in the wrong color as an answer. | 03:59 |
| IdleOne | we are going to have to ride this out. | 03:59 |
| phunyguy | guess so. | 03:59 |
| phunyguy | was just trying to think outside the box a bit | 03:59 |
| IdleOne | :) | 04:00 |
| rww | phunyguy: go write a bot that kickbans people who reply to CTCP WEBSITE with the wrong response, +e's the rest in #ubuntu, and then sends them a PM telling them to join | 04:00 |
| phunyguy | sure, give me about a month. | 04:01 |
| IdleOne | give it some voice recognition while you're at it please | 04:02 |
| Pici | sure | 04:02 |
| IdleOne | I want to be able to telnet to it and speak my commands | 04:03 |
| * rww recognizes that IdleOne has +v | 04:04 | |
| Pici | phunyguy: I wouldn't waste too much time on them. I've had a hard time explaining things to a few people before | 04:19 |
| phunyguy | meh | 04:20 |
| phunyguy | I am waiting for sleep anyway | 04:20 |
| phunyguy | so I don't mind | 04:20 |
| Pici | y u do this? | 04:21 |
| Pici | ldunn: nothing that can be done on the webchat end for this? | 04:23 |
| IdleOne | why you* | 04:23 |
| ldunn | Pici: not at the moment - there's no one around who can delve too deeply into looking at referers or similar | 04:24 |
| Pici | ah | 04:24 |
| Pici | ok :) | 04:24 |
| IdleOne | ldunn: y we pay you for | 04:24 |
| ldunn | IdleOne: to feed my crippling addiction to money | 04:25 |
| IdleOne | you suck PICI DIE! | 04:25 |
| IdleOne | lol | 04:25 |
| Pici | I make friends wherever I go ;) | 04:25 |
| phunyguy | I still ate your cookie | 04:25 |
| IdleOne | I am out of smokes | 04:25 |
| phunyguy | IdleOne: good. Don't buy any more | 04:25 |
| IdleOne | this is like phunyguy being out of beer | 04:25 |
| phunyguy | I am out of beer :( | 04:25 |
| IdleOne | so you know how I feel | 04:25 |
| phunyguy | I need to start only drinking on weekends | 04:26 |
| phunyguy | getting too fat | 04:26 |
| phunyguy | maybe you should only smoke on the weekends | 04:26 |
| IdleOne | like my life isn't miserable enough as it is | 04:26 |
| ubottu | lordievader called the ops in #kubuntu () | 06:34 |
| rww | heh, haven't seen that copypasta in a while | 06:36 |
| k1l_ | there is still the rotmg issue? | 08:54 |
| ldunn | it seems to have mostly calmed down | 08:55 |
| ldunn | though that's perhaps just a timezone thing | 08:55 |
| k1l_ | yes, in the usa its early in the morning. and still no issue handling on the rotmg website :/ | 08:59 |
| IdleOne | it could take them days..who knows. | 08:59 |
| IdleOne | right now I think we have a semi acceptable solution with forwarding them to -unregged | 09:00 |
| IdleOne | ikonia: cousteau rings bells | 09:06 |
| ikonia | yup | 09:06 |
| IdleOne | ok :) | 09:06 |
| k1l_ | @mark linuxearth again mint support questions because the mint channel is not responding fast enough for him | 11:46 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 11:46 |
| k1l_ | i dont know if rwws spam works or if the hacked site doesnt forward to #ubuntu anymore :) | 13:02 |
| phunyguy | ahahahaha, awesome spam | 14:04 |
| k1l_ | had to set the unregged forward again since there are again users coming asking for rotmg | 15:29 |
| LjL | FYI: I am presently going to ask the IRC Council to give me permission to share more than just small snippets from #ubuntu-irc-council logs in which I was involved. | 15:32 |
| * genii makes more coffee | 17:39 | |
| tonyyarusso | LjL: Remind me again why the Floodbots are still closed-source? | 17:47 |
| LjL | mostly because of people like... most people here at this point, really. | 17:51 |
| tonyyarusso | LjL: I'll admit that I haven't been paying a whole lot of attention lately, so I honestly don't know what you mean by that. | 17:52 |
| LjL | tonyyarusso: the email i'm about to send to the list may help, additionally, if you can get hold of the -ops-team logs from the last couple of days, that would likely shed some light on at least the recent attitudes | 17:53 |
| genii | People should be able to use whatever license they want for their own code, is my view. I think we just got too used to having the bots around and took them for granted. | 17:56 |
| rww | genii: indeed | 17:57 |
| rww | oh well, good example of why to not use closed-source stuff in future. good to have that reminder every so often :) | 17:58 |
| tonyyarusso | Certainly LjL can use whatever license he wants - it's just helpful to understand the rationale if one exists :) | 17:58 |
| tonyyarusso | rww++ | 17:58 |
| LjL | rww: you don't lose a single chance to shut the hell up, do you? | 17:58 |
| * rww raises an eyebrow | 17:59 | |
| LjL | tonyyarusso: fwiw, rww is part of the rationale (at least, was the practical reason why i recently determined to withdraw the bots) | 18:00 |
| LjL | tonyyarusso: the relevant logs are in the first email i sent | 18:00 |
| k1l_ | where are the users from that are now joining -unregged? the webchat forward is off and they are not even using webchat | 18:01 |
| LjL | which users, all 3 of them? | 18:02 |
| LjL | you realize the channel is +j, right? | 18:02 |
| rww | #ubuntu's not +f though, so it's not +j. I think they're just the random folks who like hanging out in all the things. | 18:05 |
| rww | There's always some people wandering in and out of there *shrug* | 18:05 |
| k1l_ | was just curious if another channel got a forward running. | 18:06 |
| rww | not as far as I know, but it's +F, so who knows | 18:07 |
| phunyguy | it's funny to see IRC nicks sometimes... like the one in -unregged "ShooterMG". I wonder if that is a Happy Gilmore reference. | 18:13 |
| phunyguy | http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0009085/?ref_=tt_cl_t2 | 18:14 |
| LjL | rww: oh, right, i forgot again that it somehow managed to lose its +f. but... it *is* +j. so, wouldn't that mean that "extra" people just get denied entry? i did think so | 18:19 |
| phunyguy | That was my impression | 18:21 |
| phunyguy | +j and -f means they get denied | 18:22 |
| LjL | i'd be wondering how #ubuntu happened to be set -f since it was always supposed to be +f #ubuntu-unregged... if i cared | 18:23 |
| phunyguy | I am not an op there. I don't know. | 18:24 |
| rww | LjL: yep, exactly | 18:25 |
| rww | It's fun. #kubuntu is (now) +f and -j, and #ubuntu is +j and -f | 18:29 |
| LjL | well, i often find myself thinking that people who happen to be denied entry into #ubuntu because of reason like those are probably better off at the end of the day, anyway | 18:33 |
| LjL | tonyyarusso: fyi i sent that email | 18:33 |
| LjL | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2014-February/001657.html | 18:34 |
| Pici | hoverboard is a bit of a troll, fyi. | 21:42 |
| phunyguy | ahh, thanks | 21:53 |
| k1l | ctcp website is quite interesting: -photocopy- WEBSITE http://elementaryforum.org/IRC | 22:01 |
| rww | yeah, it's one of my favorite little IRC tricks | 22:03 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, altcoin_ said: ubottu: I try, but my english is really bad. | 22:13 |
| topyli | wut | 22:14 |
| k1l | @mark #ubuntu Cool797 reflink spam | 22:29 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 22:29 |
| derp | Hi! I wonder why i got banned from #ubuntu? | 22:36 |
| k1l | hi derp | 22:37 |
| derp | Hi! | 22:37 |
| k1l | well you were joining the #ubuntu channel over and over again and disturbing the support during the rotmg hack incident | 22:37 |
| derp | k1l: what? | 22:38 |
| derp | I had no idea it was going on | 22:38 |
| rww | ohai derp | 22:39 |
| derp | ohai rww | 22:39 |
| derp | <3 | 22:39 |
| derp | k1l: i had no idea what was going on #ubuntu to be honest | 22:40 |
| ikonia | yet you just evaded a ban | 22:43 |
| ikonia | so you seem to be clear on how to do that | 22:43 |
| ikonia | so how about you leave and just waste other peoples time | 22:43 |
| derp | ikonia: wait | 22:43 |
| ikonia | no | 22:43 |
| derp | let me bring you up to speed | 22:43 |
| derp | on what happened | 22:43 |
| LjL | ban evasion is bad, mmmkay? | 22:44 |
| LjL | i know because it's the second thing i ever did on freenode | 22:44 |
| LjL | the first being joining a botnet | 22:44 |
| k1l | i was willing to remove the ban. was just reading the backlog to be sure on the circumstances. but evading a ban while in here talking about that is just plain dumb | 22:46 |
| rww | so where does one go for ban resolution of an #ubuntu-ops ban? | 22:47 |
| derp | I just noticed this | 22:48 |
| derp | http://pastebin.com/Xu7U415k | 22:48 |
| derp | Banning my account while banning these other users | 22:48 |
| knome | rww, appeals. | 22:48 |
| ikonia | derp: enough | 22:48 |
| rww | knome: so IRCC? | 22:48 |
| ikonia | derp: you where banned by account | 22:48 |
| k1l | derp: yes | 22:48 |
| ikonia | you then changed account | 22:48 |
| knome | rww, pretty much so | 22:48 |
| derp | ikonia: yes, i see that | 22:48 |
| derp | but i had NO idea it was going on | 22:48 |
| ikonia | 01:37 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+b $a:derp] by k1l | 22:48 |
| ikonia | so you evaded the ban | 22:48 |
| derp | i'm just a collateral victim | 22:48 |
| ikonia | by changing to stupid | 22:48 |
| derp | of what happened | 22:48 |
| ikonia | no - you are not | 22:48 |
| ikonia | you got banned by account, and evaded, conversation is now done | 22:48 |
| k1l | derp: i was just about to solve that. but evading the ban while talking in here about the ban is just not how the thing workd | 22:49 |
| derp | ikonia: no | 22:49 |
| derp | k1l: i'm sorry :( | 22:49 |
| ikonia | for the record he's sending me stupid pm messages | 22:49 |
| ikonia | such as "conversation under" | 22:49 |
| ikonia | it's clear he's trying to provoke a problem, | 22:49 |
| knome | sounds like the sequel to a johnny english movie | 22:50 |
| knome | *a sequel, not the | 22:50 |
| ikonia | I'll send him the links to the appeal process via the bot | 22:50 |
| rww | already pointed him to the IRCC channel | 22:50 |
| ikonia | remove the ban in a few days | 22:50 |
| ikonia | thanks rww | 22:50 |
| LjL | rww: is this guy as good as hfsplus, because i'd like to play with him if so | 22:59 |
| rww | LjL: derp? I like him, he has flagrant disregard for authority and Wikipedia, and the three of us have something in common. | 23:00 |
| LjL | the three meaning...? you him and me? but i like Wikipedia | 23:01 |
| rww | yep, and I know | 23:01 |
| LjL | authority tends to be pretty meh, tough, i should probably write an unsourced originally researched Wikipedia article about that | 23:02 |
| AlanBell | so, searching bantracker for derp, how much of that do you think is this derp? | 23:04 |
| LjL | derped if i know | 23:05 |
| ikonia | don't really care how much it was him | 23:05 |
| ikonia | it's clear he knew what was going on and how to evade | 23:05 |
| hggdh | indeed | 23:05 |
| ikonia | and smart comments to me in pm | 23:05 |
| ikonia | who cares if it's the same guy, it's a guy that is just going to cause problems, so he can go away | 23:06 |
| ikonia | and not have any more time wasted on him | 23:06 |
| ikonia | based on the fact he knew this channel and how to evade, has multiple accounts/cloaks suggests "it's the same guy" though | 23:06 |
| rww | AlanBell: probably most of it, but I don't do BT from work | 23:06 |
| LjL | that's a new definition of NSFW to me | 23:07 |
| LjL | but i guess i can't argue it's invalid | 23:07 |
| rww | well, my work connection's not safe for bantracker, more :) | 23:07 |
| rww | AlanBell: (I was just making sure he got to the channel, I didn't want anything, if that was confusing.) | 23:13 |
| hggdh | rww: ah, OK | 23:14 |
| LjL | rww, maybe someone informed them that when someone comes to the council channel, it's usually something serious, and they took that literally as to include $random_known_troll in "someone" | 23:15 |
| AlanBell | O.o | 23:16 |
| rww | LjL: I will go in there with cat pictures every day to disabuse them of that notion :) | 23:17 |
| AlanBell | cat pictures are always serious | 23:17 |
| IdleOne | I have some I can share | 23:17 |
| rww | i would like to appeal a ban right meow | 23:18 |
| IdleOne | prrrrrfect, we are at your disposal | 23:18 |
| LjL | AlanBell: not really serious, but certainly srsbzns | 23:21 |
| hggdh | what is it with cats? Dogs are much more fun | 23:27 |
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