[00:13] time for +r? [00:13] more of that hacked website denizens have arrived === Guest47292 is now known as jrib [00:29] gnah, tabfail while multitasking :/ [00:29] btw: floodbot would have set a mute on the user, again [00:30] so, imho, the testing has failed after one day. === knome is now known as slickymaster === slickymaster is now known as knome [01:24] lol [01:24] you kicked a staffer [01:24] ah I see. probably a tab fail [01:25] IdleOne: the day i kick a staffer, i hope it will be 100% intentional [01:26] me too :) [01:30] psh, i kick staffers all the time [01:30] * rww kicks ldunn [01:32] ow [01:51] seems like no chance to set -r without the idiots coming back [01:51] it will probably be a while, yes [01:52] k1l: next time, can you /ctcp nick website before nuking them? [01:52] what is this all about? [01:52] should tell us where they're from [01:52] rww: yes, i try [01:52] ta [01:53] realmofthemadgod.com has been hacked and someone's put an iframe to fn webchat there instead, as far as I can make out (I do not particularly advise visiting that site) [01:53] why is that URL familiar [01:54] shrug [01:59] -teddybaersawesom- WEBSITE http://realmofthemadgod.com/ << ctcp website [02:01] can we ban that somehow? or is this a task for staff? [02:03] I don't think there's a particularly nice way of handling this [02:04] not unless you want to drop a bot in #ubuntu, no [02:05] is it hitting #ubuntu specifically? or [02:05] at the moment, yes [02:05] it's been moving around [02:06] i dont get aynthing at that url. [02:06] me either [02:06] it's a bit temperamental, it seems [02:08] so wait why am i not seeing any CTCPs anyway [02:08] so.. setting +r right now is shoving people into #ubuntu-unregged [02:09] (aside, my flood detection test seems to have caught at least some of this) [02:09] maybe my ZNC caught it too and filtered the CTCPs out, because i didn't really notice a thing [02:11] also are you quite sure not letting *any* unregistered user join is better than just setting a ban or mute on the webchat [02:52] k1l: #ubuntu-unregged is +m, so no one except ops can see what others are posting, so theres no real need to kick people out [02:53] Pici: yep, i saw that its +mz. but it annoyed me [02:53] okay ;) [02:56] I've never heard of rotmg until today [02:56] yep [02:57] well, they seem to have some faithful following, albeit slightly deficient on communication [02:58] im zack from yesterday [03:02] updated the topic in -unregged, no idea if it will be read [03:02] topics exist to be read [03:02] no one ever reads topics. that should be clear [03:02] prolly not, but it is always worth a try [03:03] at least not the ones, that should read it [03:03] I put the Ubuntu stuff in the front [03:03] thats really all I'm worried about [03:03] sorry, i typoed... i meant to say, topics are there to be able to say people should have read them [03:11] let me understand something, if i understood this correctly that you said these are CTCPs [03:11] (though i didn't see any) [03:11] isn't chanmode +C supposed to stop them? [03:11] I never saw a CTCP [03:12] (also, now these people in -unregged are pm-ing me for some reason) [03:12] so wait what *was* happening [03:12] Looks like some flash game's website was hacked and they put a freenode webchat widget on there pointed at #ubuntu [03:13] do we perhaps want to set #ubuntu +f #ubuntu-unegged? [03:13] unregged, even [03:13] you mean it isn't? [03:13] not according to my client.. [03:13] rww: i set a forward already [03:13] rww: a forward was set on the webchat alone [03:13] rww: in that case, it would be hard to explain why apparently so many people are in -unregged [03:13] I don't think we need to forward all unregged users to -unregged [03:13] * k1l setzt einen Bann auf *!*@gateway/web/freenode/*$#ubuntu-unregged [03:13] Pici: well, #ubuntu should generally *always* be +f #ubuntu-unregged though [03:14] i banned all webchats to -unregged. but since the liveops are online right now i can go to sleep. gn8 [03:15] the what [03:15] Pici must be the one he's talking about [03:15] :( [03:16] rww: its like watching a train wreck [03:18] Pici: it's kind of hilarious [03:22] anyway, my flood detect stuff is hooked into irssi at the moment, since I didn't feel like spooling up a new supybot [03:40] #ubuntu-unregged, teaching people to not read the topic since uh.. a few hours ago [03:55] Maybe we need to actually mute the channel (-z) and put an onjoin message. [03:55] phunyguy: IRCC needs to do that, it's mlocked [03:55] * phunyguy nudges Pici [03:55] i'm not entirely sure who -z would benefit aside from making ops see slightly less noise [03:56] LjL-Card: it would force them to stop what they are doing, and read [03:56] how [03:56] what good is the noise doing? [03:56] it would just give people a messsage that they couldn't talk and they'd still probably be writing in the chat [03:56] LjL-Card: because every time they type they'd get an error [03:56] So? [03:56] ah, that'd help them so much [03:57] is there a form of on join message that only speaks to them? [03:57] /notice maybe? [03:57] phunyguy: ChanServ entrymsg [03:57] i don't even understand what you're asking [03:57] or is that the function of a bot? [03:57] dunno where webchat puts it tho [03:57] we can try it out [03:57] it's a NOTICE so probably the same place it puts the error [03:57] #ubuntu-sandpit [03:58] probably puts the /notice in the server tab [03:58] oh... :( [03:58] so noise it is. [03:58] this way it only annoys us if we are actually looking at the channel [03:58] well yeah I wasn't worried about that, I was more worried about them not realizing what is going on and just talking instead of listeining [03:59] technology rarely helps people pay more attention [03:59] phunyguy: the only way they would possibly realize what is going on is someone interacting with them about it. they look like they're the least IRC-savvy kind of people imaginable. they won't take some automated message in the wrong color as an answer. [03:59] we are going to have to ride this out. [03:59] guess so. [03:59] was just trying to think outside the box a bit [04:00] :) [04:00] phunyguy: go write a bot that kickbans people who reply to CTCP WEBSITE with the wrong response, +e's the rest in #ubuntu, and then sends them a PM telling them to join [04:01] sure, give me about a month. [04:02] give it some voice recognition while you're at it please [04:02] sure [04:03] I want to be able to telnet to it and speak my commands [04:04] * rww recognizes that IdleOne has +v [04:19] phunyguy: I wouldn't waste too much time on them. I've had a hard time explaining things to a few people before [04:20] meh [04:20] I am waiting for sleep anyway [04:20] so I don't mind [04:21] y u do this? [04:23] ldunn: nothing that can be done on the webchat end for this? [04:23] why you* [04:24] Pici: not at the moment - there's no one around who can delve too deeply into looking at referers or similar [04:24] ah [04:24] ok :) [04:24] ldunn: y we pay you for [04:25] IdleOne: to feed my crippling addiction to money [04:25] you suck PICI DIE! [04:25] lol [04:25] I make friends wherever I go ;) [04:25] I still ate your cookie [04:25] I am out of smokes [04:25] IdleOne: good. Don't buy any more [04:25] this is like phunyguy being out of beer [04:25] I am out of beer :( [04:25] so you know how I feel [04:26] I need to start only drinking on weekends [04:26] getting too fat [04:26] maybe you should only smoke on the weekends [04:26] like my life isn't miserable enough as it is [06:34] lordievader called the ops in #kubuntu () [06:36] heh, haven't seen that copypasta in a while [08:54] there is still the rotmg issue? [08:55] it seems to have mostly calmed down [08:55] though that's perhaps just a timezone thing [08:59] yes, in the usa its early in the morning. and still no issue handling on the rotmg website :/ [08:59] it could take them days..who knows. [09:00] right now I think we have a semi acceptable solution with forwarding them to -unregged [09:06] ikonia: cousteau rings bells [09:06] yup [09:06] ok :) [11:46] @mark linuxearth again mint support questions because the mint channel is not responding fast enough for him [11:46] The operation succeeded. [13:02] i dont know if rwws spam works or if the hacked site doesnt forward to #ubuntu anymore :) [14:04] ahahahaha, awesome spam [15:29] had to set the unregged forward again since there are again users coming asking for rotmg [15:32] FYI: I am presently going to ask the IRC Council to give me permission to share more than just small snippets from #ubuntu-irc-council logs in which I was involved. [17:39] * genii makes more coffee [17:47] LjL: Remind me again why the Floodbots are still closed-source? [17:51] mostly because of people like... most people here at this point, really. [17:52] LjL: I'll admit that I haven't been paying a whole lot of attention lately, so I honestly don't know what you mean by that. [17:53] tonyyarusso: the email i'm about to send to the list may help, additionally, if you can get hold of the -ops-team logs from the last couple of days, that would likely shed some light on at least the recent attitudes [17:56] People should be able to use whatever license they want for their own code, is my view. I think we just got too used to having the bots around and took them for granted. [17:57] genii: indeed [17:58] oh well, good example of why to not use closed-source stuff in future. good to have that reminder every so often :) [17:58] Certainly LjL can use whatever license he wants - it's just helpful to understand the rationale if one exists :) [17:58] rww++ [17:58] rww: you don't lose a single chance to shut the hell up, do you? [17:59] * rww raises an eyebrow [18:00] tonyyarusso: fwiw, rww is part of the rationale (at least, was the practical reason why i recently determined to withdraw the bots) [18:00] tonyyarusso: the relevant logs are in the first email i sent [18:01] where are the users from that are now joining -unregged? the webchat forward is off and they are not even using webchat [18:02] which users, all 3 of them? [18:02] you realize the channel is +j, right? [18:05] #ubuntu's not +f though, so it's not +j. I think they're just the random folks who like hanging out in all the things. [18:05] There's always some people wandering in and out of there *shrug* [18:06] was just curious if another channel got a forward running. [18:07] not as far as I know, but it's +F, so who knows [18:13] it's funny to see IRC nicks sometimes... like the one in -unregged "ShooterMG". I wonder if that is a Happy Gilmore reference. [18:14] http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0009085/?ref_=tt_cl_t2 [18:19] rww: oh, right, i forgot again that it somehow managed to lose its +f. but... it *is* +j. so, wouldn't that mean that "extra" people just get denied entry? i did think so [18:21] That was my impression [18:22] +j and -f means they get denied [18:23] i'd be wondering how #ubuntu happened to be set -f since it was always supposed to be +f #ubuntu-unregged... if i cared [18:24] I am not an op there. I don't know. [18:25] LjL: yep, exactly [18:29] It's fun. #kubuntu is (now) +f and -j, and #ubuntu is +j and -f [18:33] well, i often find myself thinking that people who happen to be denied entry into #ubuntu because of reason like those are probably better off at the end of the day, anyway [18:33] tonyyarusso: fyi i sent that email [18:34] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2014-February/001657.html [21:42] hoverboard is a bit of a troll, fyi. [21:53] ahh, thanks [22:01] ctcp website is quite interesting: -photocopy- WEBSITE http://elementaryforum.org/IRC [22:03] yeah, it's one of my favorite little IRC tricks [22:13] In #ubuntu, altcoin_ said: ubottu: I try, but my english is really bad. [22:14] wut [22:29] @mark #ubuntu Cool797 reflink spam [22:29] The operation succeeded. [22:36] Hi! I wonder why i got banned from #ubuntu? [22:37] hi derp [22:37] Hi! [22:37] well you were joining the #ubuntu channel over and over again and disturbing the support during the rotmg hack incident [22:38] k1l: what? [22:38] I had no idea it was going on [22:39] ohai derp [22:39] ohai rww [22:39] <3 [22:40] k1l: i had no idea what was going on #ubuntu to be honest [22:43] yet you just evaded a ban [22:43] so you seem to be clear on how to do that [22:43] so how about you leave and just waste other peoples time [22:43] ikonia: wait [22:43] no [22:43] let me bring you up to speed [22:43] on what happened [22:44] ban evasion is bad, mmmkay? [22:44] i know because it's the second thing i ever did on freenode [22:44] the first being joining a botnet [22:46] i was willing to remove the ban. was just reading the backlog to be sure on the circumstances. but evading a ban while in here talking about that is just plain dumb [22:47] so where does one go for ban resolution of an #ubuntu-ops ban? [22:48] I just noticed this [22:48] http://pastebin.com/Xu7U415k [22:48] Banning my account while banning these other users [22:48] rww, appeals. [22:48] derp: enough [22:48] knome: so IRCC? [22:48] derp: you where banned by account [22:48] derp: yes [22:48] you then changed account [22:48] rww, pretty much so [22:48] ikonia: yes, i see that [22:48] but i had NO idea it was going on [22:48] 01:37 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+b $a:derp] by k1l [22:48] so you evaded the ban [22:48] i'm just a collateral victim [22:48] by changing to stupid [22:48] of what happened [22:48] no - you are not [22:48] you got banned by account, and evaded, conversation is now done [22:49] derp: i was just about to solve that. but evading the ban while talking in here about the ban is just not how the thing workd [22:49] ikonia: no [22:49] k1l: i'm sorry :( [22:49] for the record he's sending me stupid pm messages [22:49] such as "conversation under" [22:49] it's clear he's trying to provoke a problem, [22:50] sounds like the sequel to a johnny english movie [22:50] *a sequel, not the [22:50] I'll send him the links to the appeal process via the bot [22:50] already pointed him to the IRCC channel [22:50] remove the ban in a few days [22:50] thanks rww [22:59] rww: is this guy as good as hfsplus, because i'd like to play with him if so [23:00] LjL: derp? I like him, he has flagrant disregard for authority and Wikipedia, and the three of us have something in common. [23:01] the three meaning...? you him and me? but i like Wikipedia [23:01] yep, and I know [23:02] authority tends to be pretty meh, tough, i should probably write an unsourced originally researched Wikipedia article about that [23:04] so, searching bantracker for derp, how much of that do you think is this derp? [23:05] derped if i know [23:05] don't really care how much it was him [23:05] it's clear he knew what was going on and how to evade [23:05] indeed [23:05] and smart comments to me in pm [23:06] who cares if it's the same guy, it's a guy that is just going to cause problems, so he can go away [23:06] and not have any more time wasted on him [23:06] based on the fact he knew this channel and how to evade, has multiple accounts/cloaks suggests "it's the same guy" though [23:06] AlanBell: probably most of it, but I don't do BT from work [23:07] that's a new definition of NSFW to me [23:07] but i guess i can't argue it's invalid [23:07] well, my work connection's not safe for bantracker, more :) [23:13] AlanBell: (I was just making sure he got to the channel, I didn't want anything, if that was confusing.) [23:14] rww: ah, OK [23:15] rww, maybe someone informed them that when someone comes to the council channel, it's usually something serious, and they took that literally as to include $random_known_troll in "someone" [23:16] O.o [23:17] LjL: I will go in there with cat pictures every day to disabuse them of that notion :) [23:17] cat pictures are always serious [23:17] I have some I can share [23:18] i would like to appeal a ban right meow [23:18] prrrrrfect, we are at your disposal [23:21] AlanBell: not really serious, but certainly srsbzns [23:27] what is it with cats? Dogs are much more fun