[00:13] <bazhang> time for +r?
[00:13] <bazhang> more of that hacked website denizens have arrived
[00:29] <k1l> gnah, tabfail while multitasking :/
[00:29] <k1l> btw: floodbot would have set a mute on the user, again
[00:30] <k1l> so, imho, the testing has failed after one day.
[01:24] <IdleOne> lol
[01:24] <IdleOne> you kicked a staffer
[01:24] <IdleOne> ah I see. probably a tab fail
[01:25] <LjL> IdleOne: the day i kick a staffer, i hope it will be 100% intentional
[01:26] <IdleOne> me too :)
[01:30] <rww> psh, i kick staffers all the time
[01:30]  * rww kicks ldunn
[01:32] <ldunn> ow
[01:51] <k1l> seems like no chance to set -r without the idiots coming back
[01:51] <ldunn> it will probably be a while, yes
[01:52] <rww> k1l: next time, can you /ctcp nick website before nuking them?
[01:52] <k1l> what is this all about?
[01:52] <rww> should tell us where they're from
[01:52] <k1l> rww: yes, i try
[01:52] <rww> ta
[01:53] <ldunn> realmofthemadgod.com has been hacked and someone's put an iframe to fn webchat there instead, as far as I can make out (I do not particularly advise visiting that site)
[01:53] <rww> why is that URL familiar
[01:54] <ldunn> shrug
[01:59] <k1l> -teddybaersawesom- WEBSITE http://realmofthemadgod.com/    << ctcp website
[02:01] <k1l> can we ban that somehow? or is this a task for staff?
[02:03] <ldunn> I don't think there's a particularly nice way of handling this
[02:04] <rww> not unless you want to drop a bot in #ubuntu, no
[02:05] <Pici> is it hitting #ubuntu specifically? or
[02:05] <ldunn> at the moment, yes
[02:05] <ldunn> it's been moving around
[02:06] <k1l> i dont get aynthing at that url.
[02:06] <Pici> me either
[02:06] <ldunn> it's a bit temperamental, it seems
[02:08] <LjL-Card> so wait why am i not seeing any CTCPs anyway
[02:08] <Pici> so.. setting +r right now is shoving people into #ubuntu-unregged
[02:09] <Pici> (aside, my flood detection test seems to have caught at least some of this)
[02:09] <LjL-Card> maybe my ZNC caught it too and filtered the CTCPs out, because i didn't really notice a thing
[02:11] <LjL-Card> also are you quite sure not letting *any* unregistered user join is better than just setting a ban or mute on the webchat
[02:52] <Pici> k1l: #ubuntu-unregged is +m, so no one except ops can see what others are posting, so theres no real need to kick people out
[02:53] <k1l> Pici: yep, i saw that its +mz. but it annoyed me
[02:53] <Pici> okay ;)
[02:56] <Pici> I've never heard of rotmg until today
[02:56] <k1l> yep
[02:57] <hggdh> well, they seem to have some faithful following, albeit slightly deficient on communication
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[03:02] <Pici> updated the topic in -unregged, no idea if it will be read
[03:02] <LjL-Card> topics exist to be read
[03:02] <k1l> no one ever reads topics. that should be clear
[03:02] <hggdh> prolly not, but it is always worth a try
[03:03] <k1l> at least not the ones, that should read it
[03:03] <Pici> I put the Ubuntu stuff in the front
[03:03] <Pici> thats really all I'm worried about
[03:03] <LjL-Card> sorry, i typoed... i meant to say, topics are there to be able to say people should have read them
[03:11] <LjL-Card> let me understand something, if i understood this correctly that you said these are CTCPs
[03:11] <LjL-Card> (though i didn't see any)
[03:11] <LjL-Card> isn't chanmode +C supposed to stop them?
[03:11] <Pici> I never saw a CTCP
[03:12] <Pici> (also, now these people in -unregged are pm-ing me for some reason)
[03:12] <LjL-Card> so wait what *was* happening
[03:12] <Pici> Looks like some flash game's website was hacked and they put a freenode webchat widget on there pointed at #ubuntu
[03:13] <rww> do we perhaps want to set #ubuntu +f #ubuntu-unegged?
[03:13] <rww> unregged, even
[03:13] <LjL-Card> you mean it isn't?
[03:13] <rww> not according to my client..
[03:13] <k1l> rww: i set a forward already
[03:13] <Pici> rww: a forward was set on the webchat alone
[03:13] <LjL-Card> rww: in that case, it would be hard to explain why apparently so many people are in -unregged
[03:13] <IdleOne> I don't think we need to forward all unregged users to -unregged
[03:13] <k1l> * k1l setzt einen Bann auf *!*@gateway/web/freenode/*$#ubuntu-unregged
[03:13] <LjL-Card> Pici: well, #ubuntu should generally *always* be +f #ubuntu-unregged though
[03:14] <k1l> i banned all webchats to -unregged. but since the liveops are online right now i can go to sleep. gn8
[03:15] <LjL-Card> the what
[03:15] <LjL-Card> Pici must be the one he's talking about
[03:15] <Pici> :(
[03:16] <Pici> rww: its like watching a train wreck
[03:18] <rww> Pici: it's kind of hilarious
[03:22] <Pici> anyway, my flood detect stuff is hooked into irssi at the moment, since I didn't feel like spooling up a new supybot
[03:40] <Pici> #ubuntu-unregged, teaching people to not read the topic since uh.. a few hours ago
[03:55] <phunyguy> Maybe we need to actually mute the channel (-z) and put an onjoin message.
[03:55] <rww> phunyguy: IRCC needs to do that, it's mlocked
[03:55]  * phunyguy nudges Pici
[03:55] <LjL-Card> i'm not entirely sure who -z would benefit aside from making ops see slightly less noise
[03:56] <phunyguy> LjL-Card: it would force them to stop what they are doing, and read
[03:56] <LjL-Card> how
[03:56] <phunyguy> what good is the noise doing?
[03:56] <Pici> it would just give people a messsage that they couldn't talk and they'd still probably be writing in the chat
[03:56] <rww> LjL-Card: because every time they type they'd get an error
[03:56] <phunyguy> So?
[03:56] <LjL-Card> ah, that'd help them so much
[03:57] <phunyguy> is there a form of on join message that only speaks to them?
[03:57] <phunyguy> /notice maybe?
[03:57] <rww> phunyguy: ChanServ entrymsg
[03:57] <LjL-Card> i don't even understand what you're asking
[03:57] <phunyguy> or is that the function of a bot?
[03:57] <rww> dunno where webchat puts it tho
[03:57] <phunyguy> we can try it out
[03:57] <LjL-Card> it's a NOTICE so probably the same place it puts the error
[03:57] <phunyguy> #ubuntu-sandpit
[03:58] <IdleOne> probably puts the /notice in the server tab
[03:58] <phunyguy> oh... :(
[03:58] <phunyguy> so noise it is.
[03:58] <IdleOne> this way it only annoys us if we are actually looking at the channel
[03:58] <phunyguy> well yeah I wasn't worried about that, I was more worried about them not realizing what is going on and just talking instead of listeining
[03:59] <IdleOne> technology rarely helps people pay more attention
[03:59] <LjL-Card> phunyguy: the only way they would possibly realize what is going on is someone interacting with them about it. they look like they're the least IRC-savvy kind of people imaginable. they won't take some automated message in the wrong color as an answer.
[03:59] <IdleOne> we are going to have to ride this out.
[03:59] <phunyguy> guess so.
[03:59] <phunyguy> was just trying to think outside the box a bit
[04:00] <IdleOne> :)
[04:00] <rww> phunyguy: go write a bot that kickbans people who reply to CTCP WEBSITE with the wrong response, +e's the rest in #ubuntu, and then sends them a PM telling them to join
[04:01] <phunyguy> sure, give me about a month.
[04:02] <IdleOne> give it some voice recognition while you're at it please
[04:02] <Pici> sure
[04:03] <IdleOne> I want to be able to telnet to it and speak my commands
[04:04]  * rww recognizes that IdleOne has +v
[04:19] <Pici> phunyguy: I wouldn't waste too much time on them. I've had a hard time explaining things to a few people before
[04:20] <phunyguy> meh
[04:20] <phunyguy> I am waiting for sleep anyway
[04:20] <phunyguy> so I don't mind
[04:21] <Pici> y u do this?
[04:23] <Pici> ldunn: nothing that can be done on the webchat end for this?
[04:23] <IdleOne> why you*
[04:24] <ldunn> Pici: not at the moment - there's no one around who can delve too deeply into looking at referers or similar
[04:24] <Pici> ah
[04:24] <Pici> ok :)
[04:24] <IdleOne> ldunn: y we pay you for
[04:25] <ldunn> IdleOne: to feed my crippling addiction to money
[04:25] <IdleOne> you suck PICI DIE!
[04:25] <IdleOne> lol
[04:25] <Pici> I make friends wherever I go ;)
[04:25] <phunyguy> I still ate your cookie
[04:25] <IdleOne> I am out of smokes
[04:25] <phunyguy> IdleOne: good.  Don't buy any more
[04:25] <IdleOne> this is like phunyguy being out of beer
[04:25] <phunyguy> I am out of beer :(
[04:25] <IdleOne> so you know how I feel
[04:26] <phunyguy> I need to start only drinking on weekends
[04:26] <phunyguy> getting too fat
[04:26] <phunyguy> maybe you should only smoke on the weekends
[04:26] <IdleOne> like my life isn't miserable enough as it is
[06:36] <rww> heh, haven't seen that copypasta in a while
[08:54] <k1l_> there is still the rotmg issue?
[08:55] <ldunn> it seems to have mostly calmed down
[08:55] <ldunn> though that's perhaps just a timezone thing
[08:59] <k1l_> yes, in the usa its early in the morning. and still no issue handling on the rotmg website :/
[08:59] <IdleOne> it could take them days..who knows.
[09:00] <IdleOne> right now I think we have a semi acceptable solution with forwarding them to -unregged
[09:06] <IdleOne> ikonia: cousteau rings bells
[09:06] <ikonia> yup
[09:06] <IdleOne> ok :)
[11:46] <k1l_> @mark linuxearth again mint support questions because the mint channel is not responding fast enough for him
[13:02] <k1l_> i dont know if rwws spam works or if the hacked site doesnt forward to #ubuntu anymore :)
[14:04] <phunyguy> ahahahaha, awesome spam
[15:29] <k1l_> had to set the unregged forward again since there are again users coming asking for rotmg
[15:32] <LjL> FYI: I am presently going to ask the IRC Council to give me permission to share more than just small snippets from #ubuntu-irc-council logs in which I was involved.
[17:39]  * genii makes more coffee
[17:47] <tonyyarusso> LjL: Remind me again why the Floodbots are still closed-source?
[17:51] <LjL> mostly because of people like... most people here at this point, really.
[17:52] <tonyyarusso> LjL: I'll admit that I haven't been paying a whole lot of attention lately, so I honestly don't know what you mean by that.
[17:53] <LjL> tonyyarusso: the email i'm about to send to the list may help, additionally, if you can get hold of the -ops-team logs from the last couple of days, that would likely shed some light on at least the recent attitudes
[17:56] <genii> People should be able to use whatever license they want for their own code, is my view. I think we just got too used to having the bots around and took them for granted.
[17:57] <rww> genii: indeed
[17:58] <rww> oh well, good example of why to not use closed-source stuff in future. good to have that reminder every so often :)
[17:58] <tonyyarusso> Certainly LjL can use whatever license he wants - it's just helpful to understand the rationale if one exists :)
[17:58] <tonyyarusso> rww++
[17:58] <LjL> rww: you don't lose a single chance to shut the hell up, do you?
[17:59]  * rww raises an eyebrow
[18:00] <LjL> tonyyarusso: fwiw, rww is part of the rationale (at least, was the practical reason why i recently determined to withdraw the bots)
[18:00] <LjL> tonyyarusso: the relevant logs are in the first email i sent
[18:01] <k1l_> where are the users from that are now joining -unregged? the webchat forward is off and they are not even using webchat
[18:02] <LjL> which users, all 3 of them?
[18:02] <LjL> you realize the channel is +j, right?
[18:05] <rww> #ubuntu's not +f though, so it's not +j. I think they're just the random folks who like hanging out in all the things.
[18:05] <rww> There's always some people wandering in and out of there *shrug*
[18:06] <k1l_> was just curious if another channel got a forward running.
[18:07] <rww> not as far as I know, but it's +F, so who knows
[18:13] <phunyguy> it's funny to see IRC nicks sometimes... like the one in -unregged "ShooterMG".  I wonder if that is a Happy Gilmore reference.
[18:14] <phunyguy> http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0009085/?ref_=tt_cl_t2
[18:19] <LjL> rww: oh, right, i forgot again that it somehow managed to lose its +f. but... it *is* +j. so, wouldn't that mean that "extra" people just get denied entry? i did think so
[18:21] <phunyguy> That was my impression
[18:22] <phunyguy> +j and -f means they get denied
[18:23] <LjL> i'd be wondering how #ubuntu happened to be set -f since it was always supposed to be +f #ubuntu-unregged... if i cared
[18:24] <phunyguy> I am not an op there.  I don't know.
[18:25] <rww> LjL: yep, exactly
[18:29] <rww> It's fun. #kubuntu is (now) +f and -j, and #ubuntu is +j and -f
[18:33] <LjL> well, i often find myself thinking that people who happen to be denied entry into #ubuntu because of reason like those are probably better off at the end of the day, anyway
[18:33] <LjL> tonyyarusso: fyi i sent that email
[18:34] <LjL> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2014-February/001657.html
[21:42] <Pici> hoverboard is a bit of a troll, fyi.
[21:53] <phunyguy> ahh, thanks
[22:01] <k1l> ctcp website is quite interesting: -photocopy- WEBSITE http://elementaryforum.org/IRC
[22:03] <rww> yeah, it's one of my favorite little IRC tricks
[22:14] <topyli> wut
[22:29] <k1l> @mark #ubuntu Cool797 reflink spam
[22:36] <derp> Hi! I wonder why i got banned from #ubuntu?
[22:37] <k1l> hi derp
[22:37] <derp> Hi!
[22:37] <k1l> well you were joining the #ubuntu channel over and over again and disturbing the support during the rotmg hack incident
[22:38] <derp> k1l: what?
[22:38] <derp> I had no idea it was going on
[22:39] <rww> ohai derp
[22:39] <derp> ohai rww
[22:39] <derp> <3
[22:40] <derp> k1l: i had no idea what was going on #ubuntu to be honest
[22:43] <ikonia> yet you just evaded a ban
[22:43] <ikonia> so you seem to be clear on how to do that
[22:43] <ikonia> so how about you leave and just waste other peoples time
[22:43] <derp> ikonia: wait
[22:43] <ikonia> no
[22:43] <derp> let me bring you up to speed
[22:43] <derp> on what happened
[22:44] <LjL> ban evasion is bad, mmmkay?
[22:44] <LjL> i know because it's the second thing i ever did on freenode
[22:44] <LjL> the first being joining a botnet
[22:46] <k1l> i was willing to remove the ban. was just reading the backlog to be sure on the circumstances. but evading a ban while in here talking about that is just plain dumb
[22:47] <rww> so where does one go for ban resolution of an #ubuntu-ops ban?
[22:48] <derp> I just noticed this
[22:48] <derp> http://pastebin.com/Xu7U415k
[22:48] <derp> Banning my account while banning these other users
[22:48] <knome> rww, appeals.
[22:48] <ikonia> derp: enough
[22:48] <rww> knome: so IRCC?
[22:48] <ikonia> derp: you where banned by account
[22:48] <k1l> derp: yes
[22:48] <ikonia> you then changed account
[22:48] <knome> rww, pretty much so
[22:48] <derp> ikonia: yes, i see that
[22:48] <derp> but i had NO idea it was going on
[22:48] <ikonia> 01:37 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+b $a:derp] by k1l
[22:48] <ikonia> so you evaded the ban
[22:48] <derp> i'm just a collateral victim
[22:48] <ikonia> by changing to stupid
[22:48] <derp> of what happened
[22:48] <ikonia> no - you are not
[22:48] <ikonia> you got banned by account, and evaded, conversation is now done
[22:49] <k1l> derp: i was just about to solve that. but evading the ban while talking in here about the ban is just not how the thing workd
[22:49] <derp> ikonia: no
[22:49] <derp> k1l: i'm sorry :(
[22:49] <ikonia> for the record he's sending me stupid pm messages
[22:49] <ikonia> such as "conversation under"
[22:49] <ikonia> it's clear he's trying to provoke a problem,
[22:50] <knome> sounds like the sequel to a johnny english movie
[22:50] <knome> *a sequel, not the
[22:50] <ikonia> I'll send him the links to the appeal process via the bot
[22:50] <rww> already pointed him to the IRCC channel
[22:50] <ikonia> remove the ban in a few days
[22:50] <ikonia> thanks rww
[22:59] <LjL> rww: is this guy as good as hfsplus, because i'd like to play with him if so
[23:00] <rww> LjL: derp? I like him, he has flagrant disregard for authority and Wikipedia, and the three of us have something in common.
[23:01] <LjL> the three meaning...? you him and me? but i like Wikipedia
[23:01] <rww> yep, and I know
[23:02] <LjL> authority tends to be pretty meh, tough, i should probably write an unsourced originally researched Wikipedia article about that
[23:04] <AlanBell> so, searching bantracker for derp, how much of that do you think is this derp?
[23:05] <LjL> derped if i know
[23:05] <ikonia> don't really care how much it was him
[23:05] <ikonia> it's clear he knew what was going on and how to evade
[23:05] <hggdh> indeed
[23:05] <ikonia> and smart comments to me in pm
[23:06] <ikonia> who cares if it's the same guy, it's a guy that is just going to cause problems, so he can go away
[23:06] <ikonia> and not have any more time wasted on him
[23:06] <ikonia> based on the fact he knew this channel and how to evade, has multiple accounts/cloaks suggests "it's the same guy" though
[23:06] <rww> AlanBell: probably most of it, but I don't do BT from work
[23:07] <LjL> that's a new definition of NSFW to me
[23:07] <LjL> but i guess i can't argue it's invalid
[23:07] <rww> well, my work connection's not safe for bantracker, more :)
[23:13] <rww> AlanBell: (I was just making sure he got to the channel, I didn't want anything, if that was confusing.)
[23:14] <hggdh> rww: ah, OK
[23:15] <LjL> rww, maybe someone informed them that when someone comes to the council channel, it's usually something serious, and they took that literally as to include $random_known_troll in "someone"
[23:16] <AlanBell> O.o
[23:17] <rww> LjL: I will go in there with cat pictures every day to disabuse them of that notion :)
[23:17] <AlanBell> cat pictures are always serious
[23:17] <IdleOne> I have some I can share
[23:18] <rww> i would like to appeal a ban right meow
[23:18] <IdleOne> prrrrrfect, we are at your disposal
[23:21] <LjL> AlanBell: not really serious, but certainly srsbzns
[23:27] <hggdh> what is it with cats? Dogs are much more fun