[05:47] <magespawn> good morning
[05:53] <bduk1> Morning everyone
[06:20] <Kilos> morning all
[06:20] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[06:21] <Kilos> and psydroid and inetpro 
[06:21] <Kilos> ohi ThatGraemeGuy too
[06:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning :-)
[06:46] <Kilos> hi bduk 
[06:47] <bduk> Hoe gaan dit Kilos 
[06:47] <Kilos> goed dankie en self
[06:49] <bduk> ook goed dankie. Klink my ons krag gaan nou weer af wees so sal later weer sien
[07:09] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[07:15] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:15] <Kilos> i go "broek" an ewe or 2
[07:15] <Kilos> will explain later
[07:17] <Vince-0> Hi
[07:25] <magespawn> cool Kilos, good luck
[07:27] <magespawn> hi Vince-0 
[07:32] <Vince-0> Haai
[08:00] <Kilos> lol ty magespawn one done now head bursting
[08:00] <Kilos> so rest time is called for
[08:00] <Kilos> hi mazal Xethron 
[10:30] <Kilos> ohi superfly psyatw 
[10:31] <superfly> hi Kilos
[10:32] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[10:32]  * Kilos looking for a manual for http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/belco_signal_generator_sg_2030.html but they dont have manuals in museums
[10:32] <psyatw> hi superfly
[10:33] <superfly> hi psyatw
[11:31] <Xethron> hi Kilos
[12:33] <plustwo> gud afternoon all o/
[12:39] <Kilos> hi plustwo 
[12:39] <plustwo> hi oom o/
[12:51] <Kilos> i need some advice please. running 12.04 unity and kde in 32bit, how do i use a 64bit graphics card that uses nvidia-319 drivers on my 64bit unity
[12:52] <Kilos> google talks about bumblebee and nvidia-cuda but i dunno if that will make the 32bit os use a 64bit card
[12:54] <Kilos> i dont want to mess up first then need help fixing afterwards
[12:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: ummmmm.... huh?
[12:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> just install the nvidia drivers
[12:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> bumblebee is for hybrid intel+nvidia graphics like you find on newer laptops
[12:58] <Kilos> when i plug in the 64bit graphics both 32bit systems boot to command line
[12:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you just have an nvidia card, you install the drivers
[12:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> not sure what you mean by "64 bit graphics"
[12:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> it's a card
[12:59] <Kilos> its a 64bit card
[12:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> 32/64 bit is a software distinction
[12:59] <Kilos> thats where im lost ThatGraemeGuy 
[12:59] <Kilos> running 64bit unity in additional drivers it installs nvidia-319\
[13:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> that ought to be all you need AFAIK
[13:00] <Kilos> on the 32bit systems i dont get any gui to look for additional drivers
[13:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> ah
[13:00] <Kilos> they both boot to the prompt
[13:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> well it's not really a solution as such, but my answer would be, stop installing 32-bit OS in 2014 :-)
[13:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> but you can try 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-319' and reboot perhaps
[13:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you're lucky maybe it just magically comes right
[13:02] <Kilos> ill try it or i can install it now then plug in the card
[13:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe
[13:02] <Kilos> hmm... ty ThatGraemeGuy 
[13:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> there's really no good reason to be sticking with 32-bit though
[13:02] <Kilos> only data
[13:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> eh? o_O
[13:03] <Kilos> got 9.1g of 32bit packages and 1g of 64bit
[13:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> ai tog
[13:04] <Kilos> like i can install 32bit and only use data for apt-get update
[13:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok, that's a problem i can't fix :-)
[13:04] <Kilos> haha ty for your help ill give it a go
[13:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> you're trying to use 2014 software with 1999 internet infrastructure ;-)
[13:05] <Kilos> next week will get more airtime
[13:06] <Kilos> but ill try install the 319 packages here now then plug in card and see\
[13:11] <Kilos> wbb
[13:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> win?
[13:16] <Kilos> nope just came to see if there is a way to do the additional drivers thing from cli
[13:17] <Kilos> but google dont find such an option
[13:17] <Kilos> ive installed them so lets see
[13:17] <Kilos> wbb
[16:05] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:17] <nlsthzn> hello all you sexy people...
[17:20] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[17:20] <nlsthzn> how are you uncle Kilos ?
[17:20] <Kilos> good ty and you
[17:21] <Kilos> did a reinstall update/upgrade in under 1 hour
[17:22] <Kilos> you at home?
[17:23] <nlsthzn> I have done three installs and updates etc. today...
[17:23] <nlsthzn> yup I am at home currently
[17:23] <nlsthzn> xubuntu, switch to mageia back to ubuntu
[17:23] <nlsthzn> >.<
[17:23] <Kilos> whew what are you installing so much of?
[17:24] <Kilos> lol
[17:24] <nlsthzn> chronic distro hopper I fear :'(
[17:24] <Kilos> haha
[17:24] <nlsthzn> I messes up installing libre office in Xubuntu and then tried mageia and messed up installing the nvidia drivers so I went back to ubuntu...
[17:24] <nlsthzn> will use it until unity crashes and I get miffed and then hop again
[17:27] <Kilos> haha
[17:27] <Kilos> i enjoy unity in 12.04 shape
[17:36] <nlsthzn> some good improvements on the back end for 13.10... and some new annoying additions too :/
[17:43] <Kilos> ah you havent looked at 14.04?
[17:44] <nlsthzn> I downloaded it but decided not to install it and then get frustrated when a PPA I want to use doesn't work etc...
[17:45] <nlsthzn> perhaps I should just have installed it :/
[17:45] <nlsthzn> can always do a release-upgrade ...
[17:45] <Kilos> if it is stable i might get that rather than go 64bit 12.04
[17:46] <nlsthzn> well it releases in April so not long to wait...
[17:46] <Kilos> haha
[17:47] <Kilos> is there a way to get just a minimal install and then add your own gui?
[17:47] <Kilos> you know what i mean?
[17:48] <nlsthzn> there is a minimal CD.. when I tried 12.04 it ended up never booting from the intall >.<
[17:48] <Kilos> the working os like in server mode so its only the kde and unity guis to add
[17:48] <Kilos> because i want it in both guis
[17:48] <Kilos> but 2 full downloads is too much
[17:48] <nlsthzn> you can install ubuntu and add kde
[17:49] <nlsthzn> or install kubuntu and then add unity
[17:49] <nlsthzn> I would not do it personally
[17:49] <Kilos> na i had bad things in kde onto unity
[17:49] <nlsthzn> like I said I wouldn't do it personally and bad things will happen any which way
[17:50] <Kilos> isnt getting the minimal and then adding the gui a better way
[17:50] <nlsthzn> I don't know... there is always small things that is done on the primary install to make sure it works well that can get missed... perhaps
[17:51] <Kilos> and adding gui to server installs?
[17:52] <Kilos> inetpro, you learning to program in python?
[17:52] <Kilos> Gustav H Meyer @inetpro · Feb 4 
[17:52] <Kilos> Learn programming in Python faster with support and guidance from experienced developers #python #programming http://bit.ly/1lyP1uz 
[17:56] <nlsthzn> I still want to check that link... I was at work and couldn't open it
[18:02] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[18:07] <psydroid> hi Kilos 
[18:07] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[18:08] <theblazehen> hey Kilos 
[18:27] <inetpro> Kilos: no, not exactly
[18:27] <inetpro> good evening
[18:29] <Kilos> evening
[18:29] <nlsthzn> hiya inetpro 
[18:29] <Kilos> what does not exactly mean
[18:29]  * nlsthzn removed everyone and everything from circles in G+ ... now needs to put people in again in better circles... and now I am too lazy :p
[18:30] <Kilos> haha
[18:30] <inetpro> Kilos: price is excessive
[18:30] <Kilos> price to learn python inetpro ?
[18:30] <inetpro> that guided course yes
[18:30] <Kilos> byteofpython is free
[18:31] <Kilos> you will understand it easy because you know vim
[18:31] <nlsthzn> I can imagine having some more direct mentoring will be pricey
[18:31] <nlsthzn> vim != programming language 
[18:31] <inetpro> guided training could be nice though
[18:32] <Kilos> no man you can do it
[18:32] <Kilos> get byteofpython and try
[18:32]  * inetpro is to lazy
[18:32] <Kilos> hehe
[18:32] <nlsthzn> I started reading it... very boring
[18:33] <Kilos> toolazy
[18:33] <Kilos>  too also as well
[18:33] <inetpro> ja ja, that one
[18:33] <Kilos> too=ook
[18:33] <Kilos> haha
[18:35] <inetpro> nlsthzn: if you had to choose a decent mobile phone now what would you choose
[18:35] <inetpro> ?
[18:35] <nlsthzn> hmmm...
[18:35]  * inetpro waited long enough now
[18:35] <nlsthzn> I haven't been looking recently... but as of 6 months ago it was a toss-up between the S4 and the HTC 1
[18:36] <inetpro> wanted the Note 3 since November, now time to choose
[18:36] <nlsthzn> but I must imagine there are newer ones now
[18:37] <inetpro> apparently the S5 is coming soon, but I'm not waiting for that
[18:39] <nlsthzn> if I could choose again I might have gone for one of the nexus phones
[18:39] <nlsthzn> just for getting latest released android as well as installing ubuntu touch
[18:42] <inetpro> hmm... still think is too early days for ubuntu touch
[18:42] <inetpro> but we will get there eventually
[18:44] <inetpro> especially with today's news, "Vodafone joins Ubuntu Carrier Advisory Group"
[18:44] <Kilos> oh inetpro my 8ta is getting faster
[18:44] <Kilos> peaked at 620 kB/s last night
[18:44] <inetpro> Kilos: that is nice
[18:45] <inetpro> just be more careful then
[18:45] <inetpro> data will be depleted quicker
[18:46] <Kilos> haha i downloaded the boot-repair cd images and then the 500g drive crashed and i lost all my isos
[18:46] <Kilos> about 8 of them
[18:47] <Kilos> now ive zeroed it and installed 64bit 12.04 and will update when i get data monday
[18:47] <superfly> inetpro: the CAG is nothing to actually speak of. It just means they have input on what Ubuntu does, it has no effect on whether or not they will have Ubuntu phones
[18:47] <Kilos> much better clean installing and not to a 32bit /home
[18:48] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[18:48] <nlsthzn> more likely to bite of they are part of CAG
[18:48] <superfly> hi Kilos
[18:48] <inetpro> superfly: may be, but I'm sure there will be an impact even if it is very small
[18:48] <nlsthzn> and the note 3 is a fine phone inetpro :)
[18:49] <inetpro> it might just boost the confidence of a few developers
[19:47] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:16] <superfly> nlsthzn: I'm currently eyeing what LG is doing. After all the Nexus phones are all made by LG
[21:16] <nlsthzn> Yup :)