[12:33] <ttoine> hello
[12:41] <zequence> ttoine: Hi
[12:41] <zequence> What's up?
[12:41] <ttoine> zequence, I am fine
[12:41] <ttoine> and you ?
[12:42] <zequence> Ok. I'm testing 14.04.04. I think it will be released today
[12:42] <zequence> 12.04.4, I mean
[12:43] <ttoine> ah
[12:43] <ttoine> I had a chat with developers of pitivi
[12:43] <zequence> ok?
[12:43] <ttoine> and I see that the latest version, 0.92, is available in debian stable
[12:43] <ttoine> you think it is possible to push it in 14.04 ?
[12:44] <zequence> Sure
[12:44] <zequence> I'll add it right now.
[12:45] <zequence> I will be going through our entire seeds in a few days
[12:46] <zequence> Jeez. Need to clean those up
[12:47] <zequence> Ok, done
[12:47] <zequence> should end up in the next build
[14:08] <ttoine> zequence, really ??
[14:08] <ttoine> very good news !
[14:08] <ttoine> you know when the next build will be available ?
[14:41] <zequence> ttoine: If not today, some time tomorrow probably, but if you want to try it, just download trusty and install it separately
[14:42] <zequence> I noticed it was also available for saicy, though probably an older version
[14:43] <ttoine> zequence, yes, a very, very old version
[14:43] <ttoine> 0.15
[14:43] <ttoine> I will notify pitivi developer that the latest version should be sync soon for 14.04
[14:44] <zequence> ttoine: It happens automatically
[14:44] <ttoine> great !
[14:44] <zequence> if it's in the debian repo, it is autoimported to the latest devel version of Ubuntu
[14:45] <knome> well DIF is today...
[14:45] <ttoine> which debian repo ?
[14:46] <zequence> ttoine: unsable
[14:46] <zequence> unstable*
[14:46] <ttoine> ok, I'll check that
[14:48] <zequence> ttoine: rmadison pitivi
[14:49] <zequence> 0.15.2-0.2ubuntu1 in trusty
[14:50] <zequence> also in unstable
[14:50] <zequence> ttoine: It is the packager who must update the package in Debian
[14:50] <zequence> ok, it is updated in the experimental repo
[14:51] <zequence> So, it's underway
[14:51] <zequence> http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=pitivi&searchon=names&suite=experimental&section=all
[14:51] <zequence> Won't reach trusty though
[14:51] <zequence> ttoine: I think we should start a ppa for doing our own backports for selected software
[14:52] <zequence> It's not easy getting in backports for Ubuntu releases.
[15:09] <ttoine> ok
[15:09] <ttoine> zequence,  so it will not be in 14.04
[15:09] <ttoine> ?
[15:11] <ttoine> zequence, having our own backport is something I always would have, but previous team leader didn't want to
[15:15] <zequence> ttoine: No, it won't be in 14.04, because it is not promoted to unstable, and we now come into Debian import freeze
[15:16] <zequence> So, to have a newer version, we need to do a backport. But since backporting is not easy to get approved for many applications, the easiest way is to create an unofficial repo
[15:17] <zequence> I'm thinking of adding this to the new version of controls - the ability to add a ubuntustudio ppa, making it clear that it is a bit volotile (in theory)
[15:17] <ttoine> yes
[15:18] <ttoine> would it be a lot of work to maintain such a PPA ?
[15:18] <zequence> ttoine: Not really
[15:18] <zequence> I prefer to put most of my effort on a LTS release, and keep updating it
[15:19] <zequence> especially now, when the interim releases are only supported for 9 months, and who knows what will happen to them after trusty
[15:23] <ttoine> yes
[15:23] <ttoine> sure
[15:24] <zequence> If we get the new version of ubuntustudio-controls in place, with the ability to update from our own repo, then we can more easily manage our own customizations that way. But, it needs to be done with caution and respect, of course