[01:39] <bluesabre> knome: pong
[01:39] <bluesabre> slickyma1ter
[01:39] <knome> umhumm, sorted
[01:39] <knome> xubuntu-docs 12.04.2 is in.
[01:40] <bluesabre> the dokuwiki can be updated to not say "staging", give it a more lovely facade :)
[01:40] <knome> had to dig up your .dsc and .tar.gz to get the binary images uploaded
[01:40] <bluesabre> knome: fantastic
[01:40] <knome> and everything is as supposed now
[01:40] <slickymaster> bluesabre, MenuLibre 2.0 series is completely translated into portuguese even though LP is showing 0% translated
[01:42] <bluesabre> thanks slickymaster: I'll try to figure out what the issue with lp
[01:42] <bluesabre> wish me luck ;)
[01:42] <knome> good luck
[01:42] <knome> the canonical servers have been playing games today
[01:42] <slickymaster> another thing, bluesabre, are you ok with us linking your wiki from the docs, or are you planning to move the docs?
[01:43] <bluesabre> slickymaster: I'm fine with linking to it, I have no intention of relocating them if its not necessary
[01:43] <bluesabre> mugshot and menulibre both link to the dokuwiki in their respective --help
[01:44] <bluesabre> or/ manpages
[01:44] <slickymaster> great, thanks bluesabre 
[01:45] <bluesabre> catfish 1.0 is in trusty
[01:45] <bluesabre> I think mugshot should make it, it made it into debian today
[01:46] <bluesabre> not sure if we have to do anything, or if it will be pulled in with the debian sync before debian import freeze
[01:46] <ochosi> nice work bluesabre 
[01:46] <bluesabre> its Noskcaj to thank
[01:46] <bluesabre> he's been a packaging machine
[01:47] <ochosi> well you've done a fair share of coding, no need to be modest about that
[01:48] <ochosi> bluesabre: if you have time on the weekend, we could try to get the greeter in shape for a release
[01:50] <bluesabre> ochosi: I might have such an opportunity saturday/sunday morning
[01:51] <ochosi> cool
[01:51] <ochosi> currently, the indicator-stuff needs some testing
[01:51] <ochosi> brainwash said that it slows down the greeter
[01:51] <ochosi> (which is hard to test on my machine)
[01:52] <ochosi> would be good to ask him to find out whether it's slower than unity-greeter
[01:56] <ochosi> only two weeks till feature-freeze...
[02:02] <ochosi> anyway, i'm out
[02:03] <Unit193> Tschau.
[02:16] <bluesabre> yeah, I'll try to get some testing in tomorrow maybe
[09:40] <elfy> hi slickyma1ter 
[09:40] <elfy> sigh
[09:40] <elfy> hi slickymaster 
[09:40] <slickymaster> morning elfy 
[09:41]  * elfy is busy checking core testcases and raising bugs
[09:41] <elfy> again
[09:41] <slickymaster> now I'm not sure If I must had logged in as slickymaster or slickyma1ter
[09:42] <elfy> webchat is slickymaster - you're alterego on dagobah is slickyma1ter 
[09:42] <slickymaster> ok, thanks elfy 
[10:11] <bluesabre> woot
[10:11] <bluesabre> mugshot
[10:12] <bluesabre>      0.2-1 0
[10:12] <bluesabre>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages
[10:12] <bluesabre> back to bed to sleep like a normal human
[10:12] <slickymaster> sweet dreams bluesabre 
[10:12] <Unit193> >_>
[10:13] <bluesabre> Unit193: go to bed D:
[10:27] <elfy> knome: - volman testcase - specifies opening with a bunch of different media - should we make it obvious that not having a 'type' of media is not a cause for failing the testcase
[10:27] <elfy> and that people should just note in comments what they don't have
[10:28] <knome> elfy, or the other way, always specify what they *did* test?
[10:28] <elfy> that works too - okey doke :)
[10:28] <knome> don't know. either way works for me, but you are right in the failing part.
[10:28] <elfy> yep
[12:09] <elfy> slickymaster: if you get chance to look https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/xfcecorecheck/+merge/205140
[12:10] <slickymaster> I will after lunch elfy, scout's word
[12:10] <elfy> thanks :)
[12:10] <elfy> talking of which ... 
[12:11] <slickymaster> hungry?
[12:11] <elfy> is there a Y in the day ... 
[12:11] <slickymaster> :)
[12:19] <knome> bbl
[12:27] <slickymaster> ochosi: ping
[12:27] <slickymaster> you around?
[12:27] <ochosi> slickymaster: pong
[12:27] <ochosi> what up?
[12:27] <slickymaster> ochosi: I'm starting to port xfdesktop from bluesabre's wiki to xub -docs
[12:28] <slickymaster> the idea is to rewrite the existing section with just the highlights
[12:29] <ochosi> sounds cool
[12:29] <slickymaster> any thoughts on everything in particular you should think ought to be ported?
[12:29] <ochosi> you mean thoughts on what highlights to point out?
[12:29] <slickymaster> what do you see as important to be placed in the docs?
[12:29] <slickymaster> ecatly
[12:29] <ochosi> i'd explain stuff like the time-based changing of the wallpaper
[12:29] <slickymaster> exactly
[12:30] <ochosi> many settings are easy to understand in the dialog, that's one of the more complex ones
[12:30] <slickymaster> keep in mind that what's going to be rewritten is //usr/share/xubuntu-docs/desktop-guide/guide-desktop.html#customizing-appearance
[12:30] <ochosi> then, the multi-monitor handling
[12:30] <slickymaster> other than that, anything else?
[12:31] <slickymaster> did you get to finish the multi-monitor section in blusabre's wiki?
[12:31] <ochosi> afaik the "set as wallpaper" shortcut in thunar is currently broken
[12:31] <ochosi> it would have to be updated to work with xfdesktop4.11
[12:32] <ochosi> so better re-think whether that shouldn't be removed from the docs
[12:32] <ochosi> (or we get someone to write a patch)
[12:32] <slickymaster> that patch would have to be done before doc-freeze 
[12:32] <ochosi> hm, sry about dropping the ball a bit on the xfdesktop docs. i was in touch with eric_the_idiot_ and NSchermer to get them merged, but the whole docs-versioning thing held everything up :/
[12:33] <ochosi> when's doc-freeze again?
[12:33] <slickymaster> 6 weeks from now
[12:33] <ochosi> ok
[12:34] <ochosi> hm, well i might be able to look into fixing that...
[12:34] <slickymaster> if I'm not mistaken
[12:34] <ochosi> currently wanna fix a few things in the greeter first though
[12:36] <ochosi> slickymaster: i'll send another email about the xfdesktop docs now...
[12:37] <slickymaster_> damn internet connection
[12:37] <slickymaster_> ochosi: I might have missed something you said
[12:38] <elfy> he said "currently wanna fix a few things in the greeter first though" "slickymaster: i'll send another email about the xfdesktop docs now..."
[12:38] <slickymaster_> thanks elfy 
[12:39] <ochosi> thanks parrot-elfy :)
[12:39] <elfy> assuming that is you know what the last thing you said was :p
[12:39] <ochosi> we should get a parrot-bot that PMs the last 20 lines that were said in the channel :>
[12:39] <slickymaster_> these days one starts to even doubt that :P
[12:39] <elfy> ochosi: I was really kind too - I didn't ping that ochosi guy a bunch of times
[12:39] <elfy> ochosi: lol
[12:39] <ochosi> indeed
[12:40] <elfy> sat here doing tests for zequence - I hope he knows he owes me now :p
[12:40] <slickymaster_> so, just to wrap things up, do you think there's any chances of doing anything with the multi-monitor issue ochosi 
[12:41] <zequence> elfy: I'm too poor to pay you ;)
[12:41] <elfy> that's ok - we'll be doing beta 1 tests for trusty soon :p
[12:42] <ochosi> slickymaster_: yes, i promise i'll do that today or tomorrow
[12:42] <ochosi> currently @work, so only one monitor
[12:42] <slickymaster_> ok, thanks, I'll owe you one
[12:42] <ochosi> thanks for reminding me
[12:43] <slickymaster_> np
[12:43] <elfy> zequence: I've done the install test for 32 bit - got no way to do the live session persistence test one
[12:43] <ochosi> well, i think we'll just be about even (or even i might still owe you for all the great work you did on the docs)
[12:45] <ochosi> brb
[12:48] <slickymaster> elfy: in your MP (https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/xfcecorecheck) all the testcases number match the ones in the tracker, right?
[12:48] <elfy> I hope so - or it's going to go horribly wrong
[12:49] <slickymaster> just confirming
[12:50] <slickymaster> do you want me to review it in LP, or just give you a opinion here?
[12:51] <slickymaster> elfy: ^^^
[12:51] <elfy> best do it on LP
[12:52] <slickymaster> okie dokie, you'll have it this afternoon
[12:53] <elfy> thanks - I'll get things sorted later
[12:56] <slickymaster> lunch time
[12:56] <slickymaster> brb ->
[12:59] <ochosi> hmp, so for the thunar wallpaper plugin i'm afraid we'll have to patch thunar for ubuntu
[15:09] <elfy> knome: oh yea - why wouldn't the tracker let me mark the alternates as ready yesterday? confused ... 
[15:10]  * knome shrugs
[15:12] <elfy> lol - I did that as well - didn't make the slightest difference when I did it though :)
[15:14] <knome> so... do you want a release announcement?
[15:16] <elfy> didn't have one for .3 that I remember or can see 
[15:17] <knome> .4 is the last point update though, and we have the new docs in
[15:17] <knome> though i don't feel strongly either way
[15:17] <elfy> mmm - well I don't fee strongly either
[15:17] <elfy> I'd guess that those on .3 would have done the docs if they'd needed to and wouldn't likely notice 
[15:18] <elfy> or .1 or .2 
[15:18] <knome> was a release announcement for .1
[15:18] <knome> http://xubuntu.org/news/12-04-1-release/
[15:18] <knome> could do something similar this time, a short announcement
[15:18] <knome> (also noting that it is indeed the last point release)
[15:18] <elfy> ok
[15:19] <knome> i have about until 16UTC to draft it if you want
[15:19] <knome> http://pad.ubuntu.com/blbAPMlWQj
[15:19] <elfy> ok - I'm about to wander - will be back in a short while
[15:23] <elfy> bah - back shortly
[15:23] <knome> oki
[15:34] <knome> elfy, http://xubuntu.org/?p=2072&preview=true
[15:34] <elfy> I's back 
[15:34] <slickymaster> elfy: are you back?
[15:34] <slickymaster> :)
[15:34] <knome> elfy, feel free to publish when cjwatson announces if i'm not around
[15:35] <elfy> knome: ok - looks ok to me too
[15:35] <slickymaster> elfy: Bug #1276965: Test Case 1583 -> <dt>Click "Gear Icon" on the menu bar</dt> if you press the gear icon a menu won't drop down, what happens is that Application Finder opens
[15:36] <slickymaster> in order to the menu drop down what has to be clicked is the arrow icno to the right of the gear icon
[15:36] <slickymaster> s/icno/icon
[15:37] <elfy> knome: if you go - make sure you've not got it locked then - and save it :p
[15:37] <knome> oops :P
[15:37] <knome> released the lock.
[15:37] <elfy> :p
[15:38] <knome> btw, you can force unlocking
[15:38] <knome> not that it is wise, but if i would have been gone...
[15:38] <elfy> knome: I know - but I didn'ty know if it had been saved or anything :p
[15:38] <knome> it is, it is
[15:39] <elfy> slickymaster: hang on - catching up :)
[15:40] <brainwash> recent lightdm update seems to be broken here
[15:40] <elfy> slickymaster: aaah - I see that the arrow is actually seperate from the icons ... 
[15:40] <slickymaster> yes
[15:41] <elfy> not very apparent for one with knackered eyes
[15:41] <slickymaster> lol
[15:41] <slickymaster> another thing, in that test you have  <dt>Click "Switch Icon" on the menu bar</dt> what's this icon?
[15:42] <slickymaster> because I'm not seeing it in my task manager
[15:45] <slickymaster> elfy: ^^^are you referring to the Settings for Task Manager icon?
[15:45] <elfy> the one that looks like a set of switches
[15:46] <elfy> calling these icons names that mean nothing is a matter of taste :p
[15:46] <slickymaster> well that one is the Settings for Task Manager
[15:47] <slickymaster> elfy: I think that what you intend is the the arrow icon to the right of that one 
[15:47] <slickymaster> :P
[15:47] <slickymaster> they are also separate icons
[15:48] <elfy> probably - I'm in the middle of a bunch of stuff here - including hungry kids
[15:48] <elfy> at the moment - the testcase says click execute and click preferences
[15:48] <slickymaster> I'll comment it in LP
[15:48] <elfy> neither of which is actually there
[15:48] <slickymaster> yeas, you're right about that
[15:49] <elfy> but I didn't actually realise that there was a button and menu either
[15:49] <elfy> just forget that one - and look at the others
[15:49] <elfy> bbl
[15:49] <elfy> and the quit button has just disappeared as well
[15:51] <slickymaster> yes, you just have it when you right-cilik it in the panel
[16:01] <zequence> Did live session persistance work in Xubuntu 12.04.4?
[16:02] <zequence> Or, has no one tested that before?
[16:03] <elfy> I'm bad - never check it tbh - and in fact we rejigged our live testcase to read like this http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1303/info
[16:03] <elfy> slickymaster: I'm back now and looking
[16:03] <slickymaster> I'm half way through my reviewing
[16:08] <elfy> don't bother with task manager - I'm redoing it as I speak
[16:08] <elfy> unless you already have :)
[16:11] <knome> elfy, i'm off, you need to publish the article :)
[16:11] <knome> ->
[16:15] <slickymaster> elfy: https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/xfcecorecheck/+merge/205140
[16:18] <elfy> Line 140 needs to be reworded because when a user hits Ctrl+W, the note doesn't get deleted, a dialog prompts him for an answer
[16:18] <elfy> then there's a bug - it just deletes here ... 
[16:18] <elfy> slickymaster: ^^
[16:18] <slickymaster> elfy: don't you get that prompt?
[16:18] <elfy> nope
[16:18] <slickymaster> I get it 
[16:19] <elfy> trsuty? version 1.7.7
[16:19] <slickymaster> elfy: I have xfce4-notes:   Installed: 1.7.7-3ubuntu2
[16:19] <slickymaster> yes, in Trusty
[16:20] <elfy> mmm - definitely not here
[16:21] <slickymaster> then it's definitely a bug in yours 
[16:21] <elfy> 1.7.7-3ubunt
[16:21] <slickymaster> weird, we're both with the same version
[16:22] <slickymaster> maybe brainwash could check his'
[16:22] <slickymaster> brainwash: ^^^
[16:22] <elfy> I can create notes with ctrl+n as fast as I want - then delete them with ctrl+w just as quickly
[16:22] <elfy> and that is both in this mutilated install and today's daily 
[16:23] <slickymaster> well, the existence of the prompt makes all the sense
[16:23] <slickymaster> so a note won't get deleted carelessly 
[16:24] <elfy> I agree 
[16:24] <elfy> mmm - ok I will reset that testcase - obviously a bug then
[16:24] <slickymaster> other then those two tests I think you are to be congratulated
[16:27] <elfy> ok - I'll rejig the task manager one later, set the notes one back
[16:27] <elfy> and not assume that the testcase is incorrect :p
[16:29] <slickymaster> when Unit193 wake up, we can nag him to see the behavior he gets in his system 
[16:32] <elfy> bug 1277154
[16:46] <elfy> slickymaster: done those now
[16:57] <slickymaster> elfy: https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/xfcecorecheck/+merge/205140
[16:58] <elfy> thanks slickymaster 
[16:58] <slickymaster> np
[17:19] <elfy> I beat bzr into submission
[17:19] <slickymaster> lol
[17:20] <slickymaster> no machine will defeat us
[17:20] <elfy> well I've not synced yet :p
[17:30] <elfy> synced now
[17:35] <slickymaster> \o/ elfy: 1 - bzr: 0
[17:36] <elfy> :)
[18:16] <slickymaster> bbl ->
[18:55] <knome> !team | meeting time
[18:58] <ali1234> o/
[18:58] <knome> would somebody else like to chair?
[18:59] <Noskcaj> o/
[19:00] <pleia2> o/
[19:00] <slickymaster> o/
[19:01] <jjfrv8-work> o/  can't chair - at work.
[19:02] <knome> #startmeeting
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[19:02] <knome> #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting
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[19:02] <elfy> o/
[19:02] <knome> #topic Open action items
[19:03] <knome> will have to dig them up...
[19:03] <ali1234> gtk3 indicators
[19:04] <knome> ali1234, will we carry that on?
[19:04] <ali1234> yes. nothing further happened with the upstart porting, but something new also came to my attention recently
[19:04] <knome> oki
[19:04] <knome> #action ali1234 follows up on gtk3 indicator status 
[19:04] <meetingology> ACTION: ali1234 follows up on gtk3 indicator status
[19:04] <knome> #action ali1234 and micahg to follow up on gtk3 indicator stack issues 
[19:04] <meetingology> ACTION: ali1234 and micahg to follow up on gtk3 indicator stack issues
[19:05] <knome> #nick micahg
[19:05] <knome> #action     elfy to poke Noskcaj if time-admin and users-admin do not exist in the next daily 
[19:05] <meetingology> ACTION: elfy to poke Noskcaj if time-admin and users-admin do not exist in the next daily
[19:05] <ali1234> namely that elementary also is a user of indicators, and they are in the same boat as us, except that they don't seem to be as well up with what is going on
[19:05] <knome> Noskcaj, did you get that sorted out with pitti?
[19:05] <ali1234> so i'm going to go and have a chat with them, if i can
[19:05] <elfy> knome: that's been put to bed now
[19:05] <knome> ali1234, ok, so we're steering that ship; thanks for keeping updated
[19:05] <knome> #undo
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[19:05] <Noskcaj> knome, yep. I screwed up on some DESTDIR stuff
[19:05] <knome> elfy, cheers :)
[19:05] <knome> Noskcaj, ok, great to have it sorted then
[19:06] <knome> #action knome to be in touch with people re Tech Lead position 
[19:06] <meetingology> ACTION: knome to be in touch with people re Tech Lead position
[19:06] <knome> will carry one
[19:06] <knome> *on
[19:06] <knome> i think we're good with the bluetooth stuff.
[19:07] <knome> #action micahg to talk with the DMB and separate -dev from upload rights so we can allow more people to push to xubuntu branches 
[19:07] <meetingology> ACTION: micahg to talk with the DMB and separate -dev from upload rights so we can allow more people to push to xubuntu branches
[19:07] <knome> micahg-work, ping, is that done?
[19:08] <micahg-work> working on it
[19:08] <knome> ok, carrying on
[19:09] <knome> #action xubuntu-qa to make sure there is a blueman testcase
[19:09] <meetingology> ACTION: xubuntu-qa to make sure there is a blueman testcase
[19:09] <knome> #nick xubuntu-qa
[19:09] <knome> and from the docs meeting:
[19:09] <knome> #action Unit193 to do merge proposals for "X performs Y" styled listings for the docs 
[19:09] <meetingology> ACTION: Unit193 to do merge proposals for "X performs Y" styled listings for the docs
[19:09] <knome> #nick Unit193 
[19:09] <knome> #topic Team updates
[19:10] <knome> use #info and #action as appropriate.
[19:10] <knome> floor is yours
[19:10] <slickymaster> #info slickymaster has finished porting the Mugshot documentation into the Xubuntu docs
[19:10] <elfy> knome: actioning something is great - but if we've not got any bluetooth to check - it'll get moved on 
[19:10] <slickymaster> #info slickymaster started to work on porting the Xfdesktop documentation into Xubuntu docs
[19:11] <jjfrv8-work> #info Docs team held a Trusty meeting and assignments were handed out
[19:11] <elfy> #info xubuntu-qa Package testing - Settings Manager - mandatory testing +2, run-once and optional +1
[19:11] <elfy> #info xubuntu-qa 12.04.4 32bit/ Live 4 tests, Alt 5 test
[19:11] <elfy> #info xubuntu-qa 12.04.4 64bit/ Live 6 tests, Alt 6 tests
[19:11] <elfy> #info xubuntu-qa Trusty Daily 32 bit 11 tests
[19:11] <elfy> #info xubuntu-qa Trusty Daily 64 bit 18 tests
[19:11] <elfy> #info xubuntu-qa XFCE Core Package testing due next week
[19:11] <elfy> #info xubuntu-qa light-locker has seen testing now
[19:11] <knome> elfy, we should be shipping blueman
[19:11] <knome> :)
[19:11] <jjfrv8-work> #info Kudos to knome and bluesabre for getting the SRU Docs update through all the hurdles
[19:11] <knome> and i can organize testing for the testcase :)
[19:12] <knome> yeah, yay, fixed looks for the docs in 12.04!
[19:12] <pleia2> \o/
[19:12] <Noskcaj> weather plugin 12.04 status?
[19:13] <elfy> knome: blueman - mandatory, optional or run-once
[19:14] <knome> elfy, either opt or once
[19:14] <elfy> #info elfy Blueman added to Network Testsuite
[19:15] <elfy> so that's done then
[19:15] <knome> hehe, nice
[19:15] <knome> though one can argue if it's network or not >:)
[19:16] <elfy> yep - we can argue all you like - the die is cast :p
[19:16] <ali1234> i tried to use blueman today and it crashed - for a2dp/sound :(
[19:16] <knome> ali1234, did you file a bug?
[19:16] <ali1234> no, it's saucy, nobody will care
[19:17] <ali1234> probably won't be able to reproduce it either
[19:17] <knome> #info knome and pleia2 helped startubuntu create some xubuntu-branded versions of "xp to *buntu*" flyers
[19:17] <Unit193> Got indicator-sound merged.
[19:17] <knome> Unit193, caaaaan you #infoooo
[19:17] <elfy> :p
[19:17] <pleia2> #info the flyers were widely shared on social media and pleia2 is printing some up for an upcoming conference
[19:17] <pleia2> #link http://xubuntu.org/marketingresources/
[19:18] <knome> pleia2, still, you don't need #link with bare links ;)
[19:18] <pleia2> #info site updated to link to several language variations on spreadubuntu.org
[19:18]  * pleia2 shrugs
[19:18] <Unit193> #info got pavucontrol merged into indicator-sound as an alternate recommends to the control centers, so we shouldn't be pulling them in because of that at least.
[19:19] <Unit193> Just waiting to hear back from the two artists for the xubuntu-community-artwork package, also if mica has time to review it, but not sure he does.
[19:20] <knome> Unit193, this is a meeting, just proudly ping people :P
[19:20] <knome> re: #xubuntu, i have the page ready to be updated, waiting for cjwatson's ack of release
[19:21] <knome> anything else for the updates?
[19:21] <knome> #topic Announcements
[19:21] <knome> #info 12.04.4 will be released any minute!
[19:22] <pleia2> :D
[19:22] <slickymaster> I have an offtopic announcement
[19:22] <jjfrv8-work> #info With knome's help, jjfrv8 received approval for ~ubuntu-core-doc membership
[19:22] <knome> \o/
[19:22] <Unit193> \o/
[19:22] <elfy> \o/
[19:22] <slickymaster> congrats jjfrv8 
[19:22] <knome> i just went and marked that as done in the blueprint
[19:22] <slickymaster> today is my Ubuntu Membership application, at 22:00 UTC, in #ubuntu-meeting. So if you guys feel like showing up and support it I would appreciate it
[19:23] <elfy> it's a bit late ... :p
[19:23] <knome> pleia2, was that at the same time as the docs meeting? :D
[19:23] <knome> too many meetings today.
[19:23] <pleia2> knome: yes
[19:23] <slickymaster> yes it is, knome :P
[19:23] <pleia2> indeed
[19:23] <knome> slickymaster, if i'm around, will be there
[19:23] <slickymaster> tks
[19:23] <Unit193> slickymaster: Since I didn't write one yet, make sure to ping me right before so I will be there?
[19:23] <knome> #info Debian Import Freeze is today
[19:23] <slickymaster> will do Unit193 
[19:23] <knome> #info Feature Freeze is in 2 weeks
[19:23] <slickymaster> and also you, micahg-work 
[19:24] <Unit193> Yeah, sorry.
[19:24] <knome> #info Beta 1 is in 3 weeks, freeze in the first half of that week
[19:24] <knome> #topic Agenda
[19:24] <knome> no specific agenda items.
[19:25] <knome> does anybody have something else to discuss?
[19:25] <Noskcaj> weather plugin in 12.04
[19:25] <Noskcaj> my MOTU application
[19:25] <knome> what's with the weather plugin?
[19:25] <pleia2> after yesterday's doc meeting, I'm putting together a release checklist for the website (what we need to create/update)
[19:26] <knome> pleia2, don't we have that in the wiki?
[19:26] <knome> let me dig that up.
[19:26] <knome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes#Release_Cycle
[19:26] <knome> specifically, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes#Releasing
[19:27] <pleia2> knome: it needs updating
[19:27] <knome> yep.
[19:27] <knome> but please do it on the wiki :)
[19:27] <pleia2> "Update the website" isn't enough ;)
[19:27] <knome> i'm also thinking that could have its own subpage in Processes
[19:27] <schproodle> Testing QATracker using VirtualBox. Testing Post-Install.  Pendrive insertion fails in VM but it is mounted by the host machine.
[19:27] <knome> well there's also "wiki maintaining"
[19:27] <pleia2> we need to come up with our FAQ post, define which pages need updates, etc
[19:28] <knome> what we probably need is gather all these in one big calendar
[19:28] <knome> or, a similar table as the release schedules
[19:28] <knome> schproodle, we're in the middle of the meeting, if you can wait for 15 minutes, would be good.
[19:28] <pleia2> Unit193 could just put these milestones into the xubuntu calendar
[19:28] <knome> schproodle, feel free to take part in the meeting though
[19:28] <knome> xubuntu calendar is a bit meh :|
[19:29] <schproodle> I get the donuts eh :)
[19:29] <knome> TBH, i think the release schedule table is surprisingly good
[19:29] <Unit193> pleia2: Sure, sorry what ones?
[19:29] <pleia2> so you don't want it in a calendar? :)
[19:29] <knome> pleia2, can be *as well*
[19:29] <pleia2> Unit193: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes#Releasing
[19:29] <knome> pleia2, but i guess i'd also like to have a release-specific calendar
[19:29] <knome> that should of course be updated per release
[19:30] <pleia2> no moar calendars
[19:30] <knome> err,
[19:30] <knome> i mean
[19:30] <knome> wiki table
[19:30] <knome> :P
[19:30] <pleia2> ah
[19:30] <knome> ala https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[19:30] <elfy> :)
[19:30] <pleia2> yeah sure
[19:30] <knome> i do agree that the processes page needs updating though
[19:31] <knome> i'm more than happy to help with it any day our schedules allow to sit down together
[19:31] <knome> ...figuratively speaking
[19:31] <pleia2> ok, I'll start brainstorming when I have extra braincells, then we can flesh it out
[19:31] <knome> sure, great, thanks
[19:32] <knome> #action pleia2 starts working on getting the Processes wikipage updated and cleaned
[19:32] <meetingology> ACTION: pleia2 starts working on getting the Processes wikipage updated and cleaned
[19:32] <Unit193> In addition to, or rather than?
[19:32] <knome> Unit193, we should probably update the calendar with those milestones as well.
[19:33] <knome> and i should probably either learn using the calendar (in a non-technical way), or just dismiss all schedules after trusty ;)
[19:34] <knome> #action Unit193 to add process-related tasks as events in the xubuntu team calendar
[19:34] <meetingology> ACTION: Unit193 to add process-related tasks as events in the xubuntu team calendar
[19:35] <knome> Noskcaj, still waiting for an answer re: weather plugin
[19:35] <Noskcaj> ok
[19:35] <knome> so what's up with it in precise?
[19:36] <micahg-work> in unapproved
[19:37] <knome> is there something specific to be discussed about it, or do we just want it to move along?
[19:37] <Noskcaj> I just wanted to check the status with micahg-work 
[19:37] <knome> okay
[19:38] <knome> Noskcaj, ok, motu application
[19:38] <micahg-work> if the weather plugin is needed for something, poke the SRU team, but precise-proposed has been frozen the last few days
[19:38] <Noskcaj> well weather-plugin is complete dead currently
[19:39] <Noskcaj> I've not had a reply to my motu application in three weeks
[19:39] <micahg-work> I'll try to move that forward tonight
[19:39] <Unit193> knome: OK, done more or less, might want to take a look.  Also, what additional data do you want?
[19:40] <knome> Unit193, you should talk with pleia2, or alternative me after we've refreshed the page
[19:40] <knome> Noskcaj, can you talk with the SRU team about the weather plugin?
[19:41] <Noskcaj> ok
[19:41] <elfy> once it's ready, let me know - but I should pick it up from the bug
[19:42] <knome> 12.04 is supported for one more year only (for the xubuntu part), and 14.04 is out in 6 months, so the more it stands in queues the less its impact will be
[19:42] <elfy> #action Noskcaj to ping elfy re weather plugin 
[19:42] <meetingology> ACTION: Noskcaj to ping elfy re weather plugin
[19:42] <knome> #action micahg to look at Noskcaj's MOTU application
[19:42] <meetingology> ACTION: micahg to look at Noskcaj's MOTU application
[19:42] <knome> #action Noskcaj to poke the SRU team about the weather plugin
[19:42] <meetingology> ACTION: Noskcaj to poke the SRU team about the weather plugin
[19:43] <knome> any other things people want to discuss?
[19:44] <elfy> nope
[19:44] <knome> #topic Schedule next meeting
[19:44] <knome> #info Next meeting Thu, Feb 13 at 19UTC
[19:44] <knome> #endmeeting
[19:44] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Feb  6 19:44:58 2014 UTC.  
[19:44] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2014/xubuntu-devel.2014-02-06-19.02.moin.txt
[19:44] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2014/xubuntu-devel.2014-02-06-19.02.html
[19:45] <elfy> thanks knome 
[19:45] <knome> ta ta
[19:45] <jjfrv8-work> cyall
[19:45] <slickymaster> thanks knome 
[19:45] <knome> will set up the meetings now
[19:47] <pleia2> thanks knome 
[19:47] <knome> if only the wiki was at all faster
[19:47] <knome> might take a while with these speeds
[19:51] <knome> minutes up
[19:53] <knome> also, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Toolbox/MinutesTemplate?action=info ;)
[19:56] <pleia2> 12.04.4 \o/
[19:57] <pleia2> hey, our flyer, again http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/the-linux-distillery/63020-still-on-windows-xp
[19:58] <elfy> knome: I've published it now
[19:59] <knome> ta
[19:59] <knome> i've just updated the download links, pointing to .4 now
[19:59] <elfy> ok
[20:00] <knome> and i'm off
[20:00] <knome> bbl
[20:01] <pleia2> I'll social media it once I finish up the ubuntu fridge post
[20:02] <brainwash> I like the flyer, it's kinda funny -> "will you buy a new computer or.."
[20:03] <Unit193> Isn't the motu application not under our umbrella, so not something we should action?
[20:04] <Noskcaj> Unit193, It's under micah's
[20:05] <Unit193> Yes, he isn't Xubuntu, he's mica.
[20:06] <elfy> Unit193: I'd agree 
[20:06] <Unit193> New event added: http://goo.gl/ELP3Ud
[20:09] <elfy> schproodle: "Pendrive insertion fails in VM but it is mounted by the host machine." is probably about usb's not being setup in virtual machine 
[20:10] <Unit193> schproodle: Do you have the virtualbox extension pack?
[20:13] <schproodle> elfy, I do now. Got it working. thanks
[20:15] <schproodle> elfy, I could not do the QATracker testing without vbox eh. I am trying all kinds of distros as well.  Basic FreeBSD is raw .
[20:17] <schproodle> Unit193, I installed the extension. Had to logout to get that vbox group registered. Thanks
[20:38] <schproodle> Can inserting a pendrive shut my computer off?
[20:39] <schproodle> Not a good sign.
[20:39] <elfy> it can shut one of my laptops off - but the socket's had it 
[20:40] <schproodle> crap!  just avoid a particular socker then eh?
[20:41] <schproodle> by socker you mean the computer -- not the pendrive right?
[20:41] <Unit193> Socket.
[20:42] <schproodle> Seems one has to install usb pendrives for each VM for VirtualBox.
[20:42] <schproodle> Unit193, not soccer, I will get it sorted. :)
[22:16] <knome> slickymaster is now a ubuntu member!
[22:16] <elfy> woohoo
[22:16] <Unit193> I'll say it again, well deserved.
[22:16] <slickymaster> my face is red guys, all from your words
[22:17] <Unit193> He's very angry.
[22:17] <Unit193> :---D
[22:17] <elfy> :)
[22:17] <ochosi> congrats slickymaster 
[22:18] <knome> like this children's show host? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpmKykMT1JU
[22:18] <slickymaster> thanks ochosi 
[22:18] <slickymaster> ah ah ah, just without the bottle
[22:18] <knome> "nasse-setä on hyvin hyvin vihainen" == "uncle nasse is very very angry"
[22:18] <slickymaster> correction bottles
[22:18] <knome> hehe
[22:18] <knome> well he *plays* them O:)
[22:19] <slickymaster> lol, 
[22:19] <ochosi> Noskcaj: i linked a thunar-patch to the features-blueprint today, in case you can package that one in, that'd be great! (fix wallpaper-plugin with xfdesktop4.11, explanation why and what in the bugt)