[00:10] <cubed_root> anyone know if you can contribute $ to xubuntu project? i'm feeling grateful
[00:10] <Unit193> You can't directly to Xubuntu, but Xfce and Ubuntu both do as far as I'm aware, and Xubuntu comes from both of those.
[00:11] <cubed_root> ok thanks Unit193
[00:11] <knome> cubed_root, i would suggest donating to xfce, of which we are forever in debt :)
[00:11] <Unit193> Though good to hear you like it!
[00:12] <knome> i can most overwhelmingly agree with that
[00:28] <cubed_root> yea, love it
[00:28] <cubed_root> it's my first foray(?) into linux
[01:05] <mik3> hi all, anyone point me in a direction on what to google on 'resettling' the display settings once i unplug a second monitor? right now i'm just restarting lightdm but that means i have to log in again of course
[01:08] <mik3> xrandr is what i should be looking at perhaps?
[01:08] <knome> mik3, that would work
[01:09] <knome> mik3, 'xrandr --output OUTPUTNAME --off' should do it
[01:11] <mik3> oh perfect, thanks a ton knome
[01:11] <knome> np
[01:55] <compguy> Hi everyone, got a few questions if I may as I am new to Linix OS etc. I have alot of older working hardware I would like to recycle this equipment not toss it, was told Ubuntu/Xbuntu may work better/faster than windows xp on them. 1.Is Ubuntu/Xbuntu the way to go? If so 2. Which version / flavor works best on this? Just in case I have downloaded the torrents for xbuntu/ubuntu, 3. How do I make a Bootable/usable cd (I have nero 9)? T
[01:56] <compguy> Really trying not to sound like a noob idiot so bear with me please.
[02:01] <cubed_root> compguy: i would try xubuntu
[02:02] <cubed_root> i was in the same situation about 2 months ago and got 2 old laptops running xubuntu.
[02:03] <cubed_root> i would get a usb stick of at least 2GB and a copy of unetbootin which lets you create a bootable stick so you can try out xubuntu on the old machines
[02:03] <cubed_root> if they run fast enough for you and you like what you see, you can install the OS from the bootable stick.
[02:03] <knome> compguy, nero should have an option to burn from an ISO file
[02:04] <knome> compguy, please note that later version won't fit on a CD, so you need a DVD, or a USB stick
[02:04] <knome> compguy, what kind of specifications are you looking at generally? how much ram?
[02:10] <compguy> I have several skt 370 mobos, cpus PII and celeron 500Mhz to 1.1 Ghz sd ram mostley 32/64 sticks. so say a 800MHz cpu 128 MB ram, 20gig HDD, CDRW both IDE (if that matters) etc. Jusat looking for personal web kind of use nothing heavy etc.
[02:10] <holstein> i would run puppy on those.. maybe lubuntu or something very light
[02:11] <compguy> I have a USB stick I can try the unetbootin any instructions? like I said I have always been a windows guy, but am learning the error of the dark side.l
[02:12] <compguy> i am downloading puppy as we speak just found it a short while ago.
[02:12] <holstein> compguy: do they boot usb? if not, i use plop. but, those are likely usb old 1.1
[02:13] <holstein> compguy: i use a cd on hardware of that vintage when i cant throw it out.. but, i usually just throw it out. you can also consider not runing x at all on them. ubuntu server or turnkey servers..
[02:14] <compguy> I believe most can but do need to check that maybe better to just try to get an idea of making a bootable cd or dvd for those older mobos, but like the idea of a bootable usb drive for the 478 boards.
[02:15] <holstein> compguy: you can confirm, and when they dont, because i have *never* seen one of that vintage that does, you can just use a DVD, or try plop
[02:16] <compguy> is server not to heavy for them or for personal use, I would say I would toss them  but really do not want to add extra fill to my loacal landfill and want to try to donate some of the nwer stuff if I can get an os working fast enough on them to some local kids.
[02:17] <ubuntustudio734> my screen res is stuck @ 640x480
[02:17] <ubuntustudio734> i have an nvidia 6150 and no idea what driver its running
[02:17] <holstein> ubuntustudio734: confirm which driver you are running
[02:17] <compguy> I can get xp to work on most but as you can guess it is very slow.........
[02:18] <ubuntustudio734> can you help me with that?
[02:18] <holstein> compguy: xp is supported on the hardware, likely
[02:18] <compguy> true
[02:18] <holstein> compguy: a server distro wouldnt be running x, and would be lighter.. but, i think lubuntu is the best bet
[02:19] <ubuntustudio734> ^
[02:19] <compguy> ok so i may try 1 to see, give an old windows guy a bone I know I sound stupid now (plop?)
[02:20] <holstein> ubuntustudio734: http://askubuntu.com/questions/23238/how-can-i-find-what-video-driver-is-in-use-on-my-system
[02:22] <ubuntustudio734> is this it? "configuration: driver=i915 latency=0"
[02:22] <holstein> ubuntustudio734: could be some easier ways to get where you are trying to get.. what caused this? was it always like this? is this a fresh install? have you tried using a tool such as "arandr" to set the resolution? if so, what errors?
[02:22] <ubuntustudio734> i installed ubuntu-desktop and i think it tried to install the proprietary driver
[02:23] <ubuntustudio734> over ubuntu-studio13.10
[02:23] <ubuntustudio734> logginged into ubuntustudio session
[02:23] <holstein> ubuntustudio734: can you log into the xfce or ubuntustudio session?
[02:23] <ubuntustudio734> yes
[02:23] <ubuntustudio734> i am now
[02:24] <holstein> ubuntustudio734: and? thats where you have the graphics issue? have you tried arandr?
[02:24] <ubuntustudio734> only option is 640x480
[02:25] <holstein> ubuntustudio734: what driver are you using?
[02:26] <ubuntustudio734> configuration: driver=i915  is this it?
[02:27] <ubuntustudio734> looks to be an intel driver for an nforce 430 w/ GeForce6150
[02:29] <holstein> ubuntustudio734: not likely..
[02:29] <ubuntustudio734> i915   thats all i can tell based on lshw -c video
[02:29] <holstein> ubuntustudio734: i would open a terminal and issue "lspci".. you can share that via
[02:29] <holstein> !paste | ubuntustudio734
[02:31] <ubuntustudio734> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6882876/\
[02:31] <ubuntustudio734> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6882876/
[02:32] <ubuntustudio734> i must be thinking of a different box. i have a few of these dell's that all have the same case but are all differentt
[02:35] <cubed_root> can any name a log file in xubuntu that i could try to "follow" (see the updates on)?  i want to test a unix command i just came across
[02:35] <cubed_root> the command is here: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/1024/make-less-behave-like-tail-f.
[02:35] <ubuntustudio734> this is my /etc/xorg.conf file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6882887/
[02:35] <holstein> ubuntustudio734: just remove that xorg.conf then
[02:35] <ubuntustudio734> just delete it?
[02:36] <holstein> ubuntustudio734: you can temporarily rename it
[02:36] <holstein> ubuntustudio734: do you have a dual GPU?
[02:37] <ubuntustudio734> i dont know. iin the BIOS i have 2 settings for onboard memory one is set to the max of 8mb the other is set to the max of 256mb. there is no graghics card, just onboard videeo with only the DB15
[02:38] <holstein> ubuntustudio734: you can run a live CD to make sure the hardware is functioning properly. you can try removeing whatever you installed that broke your graphics
[02:39] <holstein> i know, i would just rename that xorg.conf, and reboot
[02:39] <holstein> ubuntustudio734: do you understand how to do that? and what i mean?
[02:39] <ubuntustudio734> the hardware was fine uintill i did the restart after running sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <holstein> ubuntustudio734: how about after renaming that xorg.conf?
[02:40] <ubuntustudio734> i need to restart now
[02:40] <holstein> ubuntustudio734: after renaming that xorg.conf?
[02:40] <ubuntustudio734> i just did
[02:40] <ubuntustudio734> now i must restart
[02:44] <ubuntustudio734> okay that fixed it. i am now able to set 1024x768 (the max screen res of this lcd) thank you holstein  very much for your time and effort  :)
[02:47] <holstein> ubuntustudio734: sure.. enjoy!
[02:57] <cubed_root> is there a way to pipe the results of find into the ls command?
[02:57] <cubed_root> this
[02:58] <cubed_root> sudo find / -name "*.log" | ls -laF     just gives me a list of the current directory
[03:27] <cabe83> anyone else having issues with Synology's CloudStation client on Xubuntu? Logging out/rebooting brings a database error on re-entry back into OS.
[03:30] <snuffeluffegus> Try using << instead of |
[03:31] <cabe83> Using << where sorry?
[03:31] <holstein> i think that is for cubed_root
[03:31] <snuffeluffegus> I was replying to cubed_root
[03:31] <cabe83> oh, sorry
[03:31] <snuffeluffegus> np
[03:31] <holstein> so "sudo find / -name "*.log" << ls -laF" instead? for cubed_root ?
[03:34] <snuffeluffegus> yeah
[03:38] <snuffeluffegus> I'm not certain if it'll work for find, but I remember writing something some time ago that required << and >> to determine stdio instead of a plain pipe.
[03:58] <jvnetsl> Hello, can anybody tell me, is xubuntu fit for business use?
[03:58] <holstein> jvnetsl: yes
[03:59] <holstein> i suppose it could depend on the business.. but all of this is open, and is either fit for whatever you are doing, or freely able to be made to be appropriate, and usually easily
[04:00] <jvnetsl> We have over 150 computers, we are going to install Linux. Also we have windows servers and windows printer shares. So, xubuntu can handle printers right?
[04:00] <holstein> jvnetsl: nothing about xubuntu or linux is preventing any printer from running on it or being able to be supported on it
[04:02] <holstein> jvnetsl: you can easily and free of cost download the full and actual version of xubuntu, and many other distros, and test its actual performance easily with the actual hardware
[04:07] <jvnetsl> is there any place to get information about default packages. only firefox and abiword mentioned in the xubuntu site
[04:08] <Unit193> jvnetsl: All or some?  The docs list some others.
[04:09] <Unit193> If you have the docs, file:///usr/share/xubuntu-docs/desktop-guide/guide-default-apps.html
[04:22] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys how come xchat does cannot be transparent but everything else windoanagement wise can be transparemtns
[04:22] <Psil0Cybin> transparent is that an issue with xchat or the drivers? I am assuming xchat
[04:52] <diskinst> everyone ok
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> i am
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> whats up
[04:53] <Unit193> Psil0Cybin: Got a screenie?  (That may help someone.)
[04:53] <Psil0Cybin> of what
[04:53] <Psil0Cybin> i am confused4
[04:53] <diskinst> just got an ubuntu disk and installed on a 6 mo old lap top del works good
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> Oh
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> yea one second
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> this is the forum post though from a while ago
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> diskinst, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+question/50025
[04:55] <Psil0Cybin> http://imgur.com/GEoJhvb
[04:55] <Psil0Cybin> diskinst,
[04:56] <Psil0Cybin> oh sorry Unit193
[04:56] <Psil0Cybin> http://imgur.com/GEoJhvb
[04:56] <Mark_D> Hey anybody have audio problems installing 13.10
[04:56] <diskinst> that was confusing
[04:56] <Psil0Cybin> sorry diskinst it was directed at Unit193
[04:56] <Psil0Cybin> Unit193, , https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+question/50025
[04:56] <diskinst> ok
[04:59] <seronis> is there any way for me to get 2 mice working simultaneously?  ie:  each mouse controls its own cursor
[05:00] <diskinst> the only question I had was that ubuntu doesn't seem to work on here as good as voyager this disk has three different installs and I found voyager to work best but not much find help
[05:21] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys this is my startup screen (http://imgur.com/DEMApJX) I was wondering if I can double check that Guake is not being runned twice, I know that it is unselected on the second line, but would it show in the taskj manager? or what would be the easiest way to make sure I am only loading one script sionce I cannot delete the default guake setting
[05:21] <bazhang> Psil0Cybin, please do not crosspost
[05:23] <Psil0Cybin> sorry
[05:23] <Psil0Cybin> just confused where I can find the manual script for the start up application GUI in Xubuntu in the settings
[05:24] <Psil0Cybin> to just double check and see, if a script is being executed twice
[05:27] <cookiedavis> hey ya'll
[05:28] <cookiedavis> Any one live in San Francisco?  I'm trying to load CgMiner onto XUbuntu and I'm having a hard time. Need a teacher
[05:28] <cookiedavis> Perhaps I can tip in Dogecoin :)
[05:28] <bazhang> for which coin
[05:29] <bazhang> try the #litecoin or dogecoin channels I'd suggest cookiedavis
[05:29] <cookiedavis> dogecoin
[05:29] <cookiedavis> okay
[05:29] <cookiedavis> thanks a million!
[05:49] <Psil0Cybin> cookiedavis, I can help you I live in Canada, but I accept tips world wide.
[06:32] <Monkeytoe> hello
[06:54] <Rudhi> OLÁ
[06:54] <Rudhi> TEM BRASILEIRO AI??!
[06:54] <Unit193> !br
[09:31] <seronis> when i right click a program in the task bar.. is there any way to add a 'kill process' option to that menu so i dont have to open a console window ?
[09:32] <seronis> 'close' isnt good enough for hung programs (mostly WINE programs)
[09:34] <elfy> well - I'd have to assume that you would need to modify code to do that - you could add a shortcut for xkill - that's what I've done
[09:35] <seronis> was hoping there was some script based way to update the menu like i did with Thunar making it have extra context menu options
[09:35] <seronis> though im not 100% against recompiling code either
[09:35] <elfy> then get the code - work out how to add things to the menu and see if it works :)
[09:36] <elfy> though I've no idea which
[09:36] <seronis> not 100% against it..  still like it to be a last resort. =-)  how did you set up xkill ?
[09:36] <elfy> seems like a whole lot of work - when it takes 30 seconds to add a shortcut which does exactly what you want :)
[09:37] <elfy> settings manager - keyboard - app shortcuts - then Add, command is xkill ok that screen - then supply the shortcut you want
[09:37] <elfy> I use Ctrl+Alt+Esc
[09:37] <seronis> gotcha.  thanks
[09:37] <elfy> welcome
[09:38] <seronis> i had only used htop for process killing  (well that and using  'ps x' and 'kill -9 pid')
[09:38] <seronis> just tried xkill.. works perfect
[09:38] <seronis> does it work with full screen programs  ?
[09:38] <elfy> yep - reinventing the wheel sometimes is worth it - often it's not
[09:39] <elfy> it's worked everywhere I've needed it
[15:00] <Psil0Cybin> hey whats up guys I was wondering when I installed Xubuntu 12.04 It took a picture from my webcam during install, but I cannot figure out where the picture is...
[15:00] <knome> Psil0Cybin, ~/.face
[15:01] <Psil0Cybin> The picture is not showing up beside my profile name on user groups so I am confused if it even saved that picture...from the webcam
[15:01] <Psil0Cybin> its in the home directory but hidden right
[15:01] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot find a .face file
[15:01] <knome> then the installer most probably didn't save it for a reason or another
[15:01] <Psil0Cybin> oh so it would only be in .face within home
[15:01] <Psil0Cybin> and that is it?
[15:02] <Psil0Cybin> I keep getting "/home/psil0cybin/.face: No such file or directory"
[15:02] <knome> that's where it ought to save it
[15:03] <Psil0Cybin> so I can be assured I guess that image does not exist on my laptop
[15:04] <Psil0Cybin> wierd though that it took the picture but did not save it
[15:05] <knome> i don't know the installer code enough to assure you that, but i would imagine that's how it is
[15:05] <Psil0Cybin> alright thanks man I will attempt to do more research and see if anyone perhaps else would know more but from googling I think you may be correct, but once again I know much less than you :)
[15:30] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys I have a wierd issue, when I have my head phones into my laptop my laptop plays music from the headphone jack (so I can listen to through the head phones) and the computer speakers...is that a hardware thing or a software thing?
[15:31] <holstein> !audio | Psil0Cybin
[15:31] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: could be the best that that device supports linux.. i usually try using pavucontrol for audio routing and control
[15:32] <Psil0Cybin> How can I attempt to use pavucontrol holstein ?
[15:32] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: im assuming you are wanting the laptop speakers to mute automatically?
[15:32] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: you open it
[15:32] <holstein> !info pavucontrol
[15:32] <Psil0Cybin> yea, or I could do it manually...I just do not know how to do it, I tried going into the sound settings but all I can do is mute everything period
[15:32] <Psil0Cybin> I cannot just mute the speakers, so that had me confused.
[15:33] <Psil0Cybin> says I have it, let me try
[15:33] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: you mean, you have not learned how to mute the speakers.. if the conversation starts with "i cant", then we have nothing to talk about
[15:34] <Psil0Cybin> holstein, you are absolutely correct, my grammar, is awful
[15:34] <Psil0Cybin> I have pavucontrol open but where would I look to just mute the speaker, it shows me my ALSA Plug-in container ALSA Playback.
[15:35] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: if you literaly just opend it,try and just relax and poke around a bit, and keep in mind, your device may not support linux in the capacity you seek
[15:35] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: get a sound file playing in something simple, and see if you can route and mute as you want/need in pavucontrol
[15:36] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: you can try #ubuntu as well, since this is not related directly to xubuntu or xfce.. cheers! i gotta run
[15:36] <Psil0Cybin> I did try that already I was unable, I have a sound file playing, that is why I came here to ask yo uguys :)
[15:36] <Psil0Cybin> okay ty
[15:37] <Belial`> using xubuntu 13.10 and i removed the application indicator plugin from the panel. i want to run the normal notification area. what's the normal sound applet for xfce that displays in the notification area?
[16:05] <brainwash> Belial`: the package xfce4-mixer installs the panel mixer plugin
[16:06] <brainwash> you will have to manually add the mixer plugin to the panel
[16:06] <Belial`> yeah, i got it installed.
[16:06] <Belial`> working good.
[16:07] <Belial`> i thought i mentioned that. i must have put it in the wrong channel.
[16:08] <brainwash> Belial`: ok :)
[16:08] <Belial`> is it safe to completely remove indicator plugins?
[16:12] <brainwash> Belial`: yes
[16:13] <Belial`> thanks
[16:21] <Belial`> brainwash, ah. looks like i lose pulse audio going with the xfce4-mixer?
[16:24] <brainwash> Belial`: do you? how do you know
[16:26] <Belial`> brainwash, nevermind. i do.  there was an option to go beyond 100% with the indicator. that's not possible with the xfce4-mixer, is it?
[16:26] <Belial`> unless i'm getting my distributions mixed up.
[16:27] <brainwash> by scrolling the mouse wheel?
[16:27] <brainwash> you can configure the mixer plugin to open pavucontrol
[16:28] <brainwash> from the context menu
[16:37] <Belial`> brainwash, i can pull pavucontrol up by launching it separately but not inside of xfce4-mixer.
[16:37] <Belial`> unless i'm overlooking something.
[16:38] <brainwash> Belial`: right click the mixer panel plugin and open the properties
[16:39] <Belial`> yeah
[16:39] <Belial`> it lets me select pulse audio. but with pavucontrol, i can go beyond 100%. there's nothing in the properties for that.
[16:40] <brainwash> well,indicator-sound is the optimal solution
[16:41] <brainwash> you could bind pavucontrol to a keyboard shortcut
[16:41] <brainwash> for faster access
[16:41] <Belial`> http://i.imgur.com/1i7jDpT.png
[16:43] <xubuntu066> hello can someone help me please?
[16:44] <brainwash> Belial`: which xubuntu release to you use?
[16:44] <brainwash> !ask | xubuntu066
[16:44] <xubuntu066> I am new to this
[16:44] <xubuntu066> I am being think as I really dont have a clue what you mean
[16:45] <Belial`> brainwash, 13.10
[16:46] <xubuntu066> is there a support place where questions have be asked in a live chat enviroment ?
[16:47] <brainwash> Belial`: maybe you should go back to indicator-sound if you want all features to work properly
[16:48] <brainwash> was there any issue with indicator-sound?
[17:03] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i just installed xubuntu 12.04 and everything is working fine but my sound is playing from both my headphones and speakers what can i do to fix this I have a Lenovo G700 Laptiop
[17:04] <Psil0Cybin> here is my info
[17:04] <Psil0Cybin> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=9b5adea61317b7afca21e6ca46055515b848c02a
[17:04] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: how did pavuontrol work for you?
[17:06] <holstein> for me, when i have had that issue on a few machines, i was always able to mute one or the other.. and back then, i just used alsamixer to find what to mute.. this was before i was using pavucontrol
[17:06] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: have you tried tweaking all the settings in alsamixer? its important to try all settings, and not trust the labels
[17:22] <Psil0Cybin> yes I have tried all settings and I have tried pulseaudio or what ever its called, It views the audio headphones and speakers as one setting
[17:22] <Psil0Cybin> anything I change affects both, in terms of volume, etc
[17:22] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: and in alsamixer, you have tweaked *all* settings?
[17:23] <Psil0Cybin> it only gives me Master, PCM S/PDIF that just popped up
[17:23] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: not trusting any lables.. i once found a switch that muted my headphones labeld "center"
[17:23] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: could also be that the device doesnt support linux/alsa
[17:23] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: i usually try live CD's and see if kernel versions or alsa automatically supports the device well, or as expected and make a note of what is working
[17:24] <Psil0Cybin> darn I think that is the case, could I do anything alot of people with the same version have this issue the problem is that everything else works flawlessly, and i know other kernels will come with other kinks...
[17:24] <Psil0Cybin> gah i guess i have to weigh out the negatives and positives
[17:24] <Psil0Cybin> just stinks, how everything works but this one silllllllllly thing.
[17:25] <holstein> Psil0Cybin: you can look for, or create a bug report, either with ubuntu, or upstream alsa
[17:25] <Psil0Cybin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1366524&page=1
[17:25] <Psil0Cybin> yea I might have to do both, lol
[18:56] <kaffeebohne> hi, I've got an 32bit xubuntu with firefox and flash installed (live system), but firefox wont recognize flash. any ideas on that?
[19:01] <holstein> kaffeebohne: firefox doesnt "recognize" it.. the flash application does.. not sure about being on a live system, but what i would do is try the chrome browser, which has the most recent version of flash.. see that the flash site is supported and go from there
[19:02] <holstein> kaffeebohne: chrome, and not chromium, in this case
[19:02] <kaffeebohne> I'll try, thanks
[19:14] <xubuntu412> I have an HP Notebook 2000 that i just installed linux into. I now need to fix my cd rom drive.  I cannot burn cds or play them.  The thing is pretty much useless.  Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[19:15] <bekks> xubuntu412: Replace it.
[19:16] <xubuntu412> thank you. i thought so. know what price range i should expect?
[19:17] <Rashkae> 12.04 LTS alternate download links on front page need to be updated, links are for no longer existing .3 release,, need to update to .4  (in case anyone watching knows where this *should* be reported)
[19:17] <knome> Rashkae, i'll do that in a sec.
[19:17] <knome> Rashkae, thanks for noticing.
[19:18] <Rashkae> Velcome
[20:18] <xubuntu667> quick question, if I install the alpha 2 of xubuntu 14.04 LTS, would it be best to dist upgrade or reinstall it completely when it arrives? Thank you in advance!
[20:19] <holstein> xubuntu667: "best" is a matter of opinionn and use case. you will be able to upgrade and get the newer packages
[20:19] <xubuntu667> Ok thank you
[20:20] <elfy> if you got the a2 today as soon as you'd updated you'd have today's daily - if you're going to use the dev version get the daily
[20:21] <xubuntu667> and just keep updating right into the LTS release
[20:21] <elfy> yea
[20:21] <xubuntu667> Thank you very much ;)
[20:21] <elfy> while you're doing that you can also help Xubuntu ;) http://xubuntu.org/news/help-us-test-xubuntu-14-04-lts/
[20:22] <xubuntu667> Will do
[20:24] <kgb> oh, it's that time again, nice!.. 14.04 is LTS, gr8! :-)
[20:24] <kgb> nice
[21:10] <starrats> goode afternoon everyone
[21:16] <smallfoot-> Greybird doesn't look alright on Nautilus 3.10.1 on 14.04 Trusty Tahr
[21:20] <Dan_D> Hello, I have an issue with my USB stick. It was formally used as a boot drive, however I now want to format it.Problem is, when I plug it in, it does not appear in the file manager. Help?
[21:39] <xubuntu950> hi
[22:33] <xubuntu724> hi
[22:34] <xubuntu724> I am a kubuntu user, but latelly it seems a little slow to me
[22:34] <xubuntu724> is there any way to install xfce alongside to kubuntu?
[22:34] <holstein> xubuntu724: yes
[22:34] <holstein> xubuntu724: i say, do just that.. just install xfce, not xubuntu-desktop
[22:34] <xubuntu724> so, that I can choose to which desktop to login
[22:35] <xubuntu724> ok holstein
[22:35] <holstein> then, you should be able to keep kdm and whatever else in place.. and just boot xfce from there
[22:35] <xubuntu724> I'm new to linux
[22:35] <xubuntu724> can you give me some directions ?
[22:35] <holstein> xubuntu724: i would open the package manager of your choice and search for xfce
[22:36] <xubuntu724> too many results are coming up
[22:36] <xubuntu724> I don't know which one is the right one
[22:36] <bekks> xubuntu724: Just install xubuntu-desktop
[22:36] <holstein> that will likely break the kubuntu setup
[22:37] <bekks> Which setup?
[22:37] <holstein> or, it does for me.. i would just install xfce4
[22:37] <bekks> It will ask you wether you want to keep kdm - thats all.
[22:37] <xubuntu724> No, I don't want to loose kubuntu, holstein did understand what I really need
[22:37] <bekks> Then install xfce4, not xubuntu-desktop
[22:37] <holstein> right.. i understand, and i say, in the past, when i have installed *-desktop i have had issues
[22:38] <xubuntu724> right bekks
[22:38] <xubuntu724> how can I do that
[22:38] <xubuntu724> with simple to follow instructions please
[22:38] <holstein> xubuntu724: search for, and install xfce4
[22:38] <xubuntu724> I'm kinda newbie
[22:38] <holstein> xubuntu724: one of the many things that comes up is just that.. xfce4
[22:39] <xubuntu724> ok, hold on a minute please
[22:40] <xubuntu724> Ok, there is a result xfce4
[22:41] <xubuntu724> So, supposing I install it, what should I do next?
[22:41] <holstein> right. thats xfce4.. thats what you asked for, and want, and i suggest you install
[22:41] <holstein> xubuntu724: you wuld install it, and *not* elect to switch from kdm, if given that option.. reboot or logout and choose xfce from the login manager
[22:41] <xubuntu724> so simple?
[22:42] <xubuntu724> and KDE will be intact?
[22:42] <holstein> xubuntu724: you are free to search around and ask others.. and you should do your own research, and whatever package manager you are using will tell you *exactly* what it is about to do
[22:43] <holstein> you can look and see what all is being installed, and that nothing is being removed
[22:43] <xubuntu724> ok, one last question
[22:43] <holstein> nothing about installing xfce will break KDE..
[22:44] <xubuntu724> Will the applications I already have installed under Kubuntu, be usable from the xfce environment?
[22:44] <holstein> xubuntu724: yes
[22:44] <xubuntu724> nice :)
[22:44] <xubuntu724> thank you very very much
[22:44] <xubuntu724> I go do it right now
[22:44] <holstein> sure... good luck.
[22:45] <xubuntu724> thank you
[22:45] <xubuntu724> bye to every1
[23:10] <slawke> hello :)
[23:11] <slawke> somebody can tell me whence I can download xubuntu 14 alpha 1 or 2? :)P
[23:11] <holstein> slawke: 14.04*
[23:12] <holstein> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/14.04/alpha-1/ and use #ubuntu+1
[23:13] <slawke> thanks :)