[01:23] <pepee> hi
[01:50] <pepee> will trusty use kernel 3.14? or, will canonical backport the new features in the radeon driver from 3.13?
[01:51] <k1l> i heard that is will be 3.13 with some backports. since 3.14 is not matching the freeze date of trusty
[01:51] <pepee> ah, k
[01:55] <pepee> btw, have you talked about those features? that driver seems to be improving really quickly...
[02:52] <rohan> doing a dist-upgrade on kubuntu wants to remove kde-config-touchpad -- is that safe?
[02:53] <rohan> or is there a new package coming which will resolve the dependency with xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ?
[03:04] <tsimpson> probably not what you want to do
[03:33] <rohan> tsimpson: not accept the package removal, you mean?
[03:34] <tsimpson> rohan: yeah, I don't believe it's intentional to have kde-config-touchpad removed
[08:07] <kblin> ahrg, gmusicbrowser again shuffles through my library without any apparent reason
[08:08] <kblin> and rhythmbox doesn't have a tray icon to easily access it from every desktop
[08:08] <kblin> sad state of music players
[09:14] <melkor> When I update and then upgrade, I lose a package that I need. For some reason kde-config-touchpad is removed.
[09:16] <melkor> Actually I use dist-upgrade. At first I thought it was because the new kernel doesn't work with the touchpad driver, but now I see the config too is removed.
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[16:05] <aim> I switched to Trusty and tried to create a Custom Keyboardshortcut (which works fine on Precise). Where are these now stored? The shortcut I added was "SwitchToEmacs" yet the following returns no entry at all: "GLOBIGNORE=.:.. ag SwitchToEmacs $HOME/.*"
[17:36] <pietro10> Hi. Is there a reason kde-config-touchpad has been removed? Has it been replaced by something? If not, will I still be able to turn off certain features like tapping in a future reinstall? Thanks.
[17:52] <dougl> somehow I changed from nouveau to nvidia drivers now I want to change back = how do I do this?
[17:53] <dougl> I have no GLX functionality since yesterdays updates.
[17:53] <teward> or
[17:53] <teward> oops sorry
[17:53] <pietro10> run the alternative driver install program again and choose the Remove option instead of the Install option
[17:53] <pietro10> are you in X11?
[17:54] <pietro10> or Wayland?
[17:54] <dougl> pietro10, yes
[17:54] <pietro10> ok
[17:54] <pietro10> then you should be able to just go back and rpeeat what you did to install; the button should say Remove or Uninstall or something else to that effect instead
[17:54] <dougl> err were you talking to me lol
[17:54] <pietro10> and it should auto-switch back to noveau
[17:54] <pietro10> yes
[17:55] <dougl> I think they were installed by default don't know how I did it?
[17:55] <pietro10> what DE are you using
[17:55] <dougl> kde
[17:57] <dougl> jockey-kde is what I used in the past so I tried to disabel them there with no success
[17:57] <pietro10> hm
[17:57] <pietro10> if jockey-kde isn't working then that's weird
[17:57] <dougl> agreed
[17:58] <dougl> is there not apt-get install nouveau?/
[17:58] <dougl> or something'
[17:58] <pietro10> xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[17:58] <dougl> I sudo that?
[17:58] <pietro10> yes, sudo apt-get install that
[17:58] <pietro10> I don't know how to remove the nvidia drivers with apt-get though
[17:59] <dougl> k thanks... that install should do the trick tho
[17:59] <pietro10> ...was it not installed?
[17:59] <pietro10> I seem to have all the xserver-xorg drivers on a fresh trusty kubuntu install but only nouveau is enabled
[18:00] <dougl> err yes already installed
[18:00] <dougl> just neeed to enabel them
[18:00] <pietro10> ok
[18:00] <pietro10> I don't know how tod othat, sorry
[18:01] <dougl> np
[18:01] <dougl> appreciate the time/chat :)
[18:17] <shadeslayer> pietro10: hi, what's the problem with kde-config-touchpad again?
[18:17] <pietro10> apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove it
[18:17] <pietro10> I'm asking if therew as a specific reason it was removed
[18:18] <pietro10> since I'm using it to disable features I don't want, like tap to click]
[18:18] <shadeslayer> we've replaced it with kde-touchpad:
[18:18] <shadeslayer> but it shouldn't be removed on dist upgrade
[18:18] <trism> it's probably this: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics : Breaks: kde-config-touchpad (< 0.8.1-2~) but 0.8.1-1ubuntu6 is to be installed
[18:19] <pietro10> hm
[18:20] <shadeslayer> appears like a incorrect merge from debian
[18:20] <shadeslayer> which now wants a new merge/sync of synaptiks
[18:20] <pietro10> heh o.o
[18:20] <pietro10> I'll upgrade later then
[18:20] <pietro10> actually
[18:20] <pietro10> is there a way to find out why csound-gui was removed as well?
[18:21] <shadeslayer> I recommend removing kde-config-touchpad and using kde-touchpad instead actually
[18:21] <shadeslayer> because that is what is what we're going to ship in 14.04
[18:21] <shadeslayer> so it would be nice to get feedback
[18:21] <pietro10> ok
[18:21] <pietro10> I already set up my touchpad settings though, so I guess I'll just see what's up
[18:22] <shadeslayer> ah hmm, yeah, we don't have a migration plan in place
[18:23] <pietro10> The service 'Touchpad' does not provide an interface 'KCModule' with keyword 'synpatiks/kcm_synaptiks.py'The factory doe snot support creating components of the specified type.
[18:23] <pietro10> apparently it didn't remove the old one cleanly
[18:23] <pietro10> lol
[18:24] <pietro10> hm
[18:24] <pietro10> random suggestion
[18:24] <pietro10> the Testing area should probablyb e moved to the bottom of the window, not the right side
[18:24] <shadeslayer> try opening : kcmshell4 kcm_touchpad
[18:24] <shadeslayer> pietro10: file a bug on bugs.kde.org for that request plz :)
[18:25] <pietro10> other than that everything seems to be working fine
[18:25] <shadeslayer> good to hear :)
[18:25] <pietro10> (well both that and the old one not being removed cleanly)
[18:25] <shadeslayer> https://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=Touchpad%20KCM
[18:26] <shadeslayer> pietro10: hmm, regarding the old one not being removed, did you try running kbuildsycoca4 after removing it
[18:26] <shadeslayer> sounds like a caching issue to me
[18:28] <pietro10> running that did it
[18:29] <shadeslayer> yep caching issue
[22:09] <kaimast> hi can i ignore erros like this when building debian packages? "dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to "
[22:09] <kaimast> the project i want to build generates some sourcecode during the build and debuild seems to have problems with that
[22:10] <TJ-> kaimast: Is it referring to binary build artifacts? Best to start from a pristine source tree when building the source package
[22:11] <kaimast> TJ-: it is referring to .mk files.
[22:12] <kaimast> not really sure what pristine source tree means
[22:12] <TJ-> kaimast: make files? Hmmm, can you pastebin the complete output from dpkg-source ?
[22:14] <kaimast> here you go: http://pastebin.com/cMkR5Qs2
[22:15] <kaimast> well it is actually the complete output from debuild :)
[22:16] <Ampelbein> kaimast: I assume this is after building the package once already?
[22:16] <TJ-> kaimast: the explanation is pretty clear; you've got symlinks replacing files
[22:17] <kaimast> but i have no idea where they are coming from.
[22:18] <Ampelbein> kaimast: If this is after building the package before in the same directory: Either teach the upstream build system to remove those on "clean" or add them to debian/clean to let dh_clean remove them.
[22:21] <jtaylor> or use extend-diff-ignore, see man dpkg-source
[22:23] <xeno> Okay, so I have 14.04 crashing all over, and I'm trying to get a pen drive installed, and "Startup Disk Creator" was having a tantrum and apparently is associated with my spontaneous reboots.
[22:23] <xeno> I guess I'd better just make a drive and go back to 13.10, which was my intent all along.  Sorry for the trouble.
[22:26] <xeno> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6893946/
[22:26] <kaimast> Ampelbein: thanks that seemed to have worked
[22:42] <UserError> is there a trusty mini iso?
[22:42] <bekks> not until now.
[23:12] <pietro10> shadeslayer: okay on re-login the touchpad settings reset; not sure if that's because I had to hard reboot or not
[23:13] <shadeslayer> happens everytime?
[23:13] <shadeslayer> kcm shows old settings?
[23:14] <pietro10> just once so far
[23:14] <pietro10> need to try again
[23:50] <arielsanflo> hi
[23:50] <arielsanflo> help gnome-shell
[23:54] <arielsanflo> I work after upgrading to medium lettering and icons half half
[23:56] <UserError> hrmmmmm. i cannot find the mini iso anywhere