[01:23] hi [01:50] will trusty use kernel 3.14? or, will canonical backport the new features in the radeon driver from 3.13? [01:51] i heard that is will be 3.13 with some backports. since 3.14 is not matching the freeze date of trusty [01:51] ah, k [01:55] btw, have you talked about those features? that driver seems to be improving really quickly... [02:52] doing a dist-upgrade on kubuntu wants to remove kde-config-touchpad -- is that safe? [02:53] or is there a new package coming which will resolve the dependency with xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ? [03:04] probably not what you want to do [03:33] tsimpson: not accept the package removal, you mean? [03:34] rohan: yeah, I don't believe it's intentional to have kde-config-touchpad removed [08:07] ahrg, gmusicbrowser again shuffles through my library without any apparent reason [08:08] and rhythmbox doesn't have a tray icon to easily access it from every desktop [08:08] sad state of music players === zz_scottb is now known as scottb [09:14] When I update and then upgrade, I lose a package that I need. For some reason kde-config-touchpad is removed. [09:16] Actually I use dist-upgrade. At first I thought it was because the new kernel doesn't work with the touchpad driver, but now I see the config too is removed. === JanC_ is now known as JanC [11:42] Hey folks [16:05] I switched to Trusty and tried to create a Custom Keyboardshortcut (which works fine on Precise). Where are these now stored? The shortcut I added was "SwitchToEmacs" yet the following returns no entry at all: "GLOBIGNORE=.:.. ag SwitchToEmacs $HOME/.*" [17:36] Hi. Is there a reason kde-config-touchpad has been removed? Has it been replaced by something? If not, will I still be able to turn off certain features like tapping in a future reinstall? Thanks. [17:52] somehow I changed from nouveau to nvidia drivers now I want to change back = how do I do this? [17:53] I have no GLX functionality since yesterdays updates. [17:53] or [17:53] oops sorry [17:53] run the alternative driver install program again and choose the Remove option instead of the Install option [17:53] are you in X11? [17:54] or Wayland? [17:54] pietro10, yes [17:54] ok [17:54] then you should be able to just go back and rpeeat what you did to install; the button should say Remove or Uninstall or something else to that effect instead [17:54] err were you talking to me lol [17:54] and it should auto-switch back to noveau [17:54] yes [17:55] I think they were installed by default don't know how I did it? [17:55] what DE are you using [17:55] kde [17:57] jockey-kde is what I used in the past so I tried to disabel them there with no success [17:57] hm [17:57] if jockey-kde isn't working then that's weird [17:57] agreed [17:58] is there not apt-get install nouveau?/ [17:58] or something' [17:58] xserver-xorg-video-nouveau [17:58] I sudo that? [17:58] yes, sudo apt-get install that [17:58] I don't know how to remove the nvidia drivers with apt-get though [17:59] k thanks... that install should do the trick tho [17:59] ...was it not installed? [17:59] I seem to have all the xserver-xorg drivers on a fresh trusty kubuntu install but only nouveau is enabled [18:00] err yes already installed [18:00] just neeed to enabel them [18:00] ok [18:00] I don't know how tod othat, sorry [18:01] np [18:01] appreciate the time/chat :) [18:17] pietro10: hi, what's the problem with kde-config-touchpad again? [18:17] apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove it [18:17] I'm asking if therew as a specific reason it was removed [18:18] since I'm using it to disable features I don't want, like tap to click] [18:18] we've replaced it with kde-touchpad: [18:18] but it shouldn't be removed on dist upgrade [18:18] it's probably this: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics : Breaks: kde-config-touchpad (< 0.8.1-2~) but 0.8.1-1ubuntu6 is to be installed [18:19] hm [18:20] appears like a incorrect merge from debian [18:20] which now wants a new merge/sync of synaptiks [18:20] heh o.o [18:20] I'll upgrade later then [18:20] actually [18:20] is there a way to find out why csound-gui was removed as well? [18:21] I recommend removing kde-config-touchpad and using kde-touchpad instead actually [18:21] because that is what is what we're going to ship in 14.04 [18:21] so it would be nice to get feedback [18:21] ok [18:21] I already set up my touchpad settings though, so I guess I'll just see what's up [18:22] ah hmm, yeah, we don't have a migration plan in place [18:23] The service 'Touchpad' does not provide an interface 'KCModule' with keyword 'synpatiks/kcm_synaptiks.py'The factory doe snot support creating components of the specified type. [18:23] apparently it didn't remove the old one cleanly [18:23] lol [18:24] hm [18:24] random suggestion [18:24] the Testing area should probablyb e moved to the bottom of the window, not the right side [18:24] try opening : kcmshell4 kcm_touchpad [18:24] pietro10: file a bug on bugs.kde.org for that request plz :) [18:25] other than that everything seems to be working fine [18:25] good to hear :) [18:25] (well both that and the old one not being removed cleanly) [18:25] https://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=Touchpad%20KCM [18:26] pietro10: hmm, regarding the old one not being removed, did you try running kbuildsycoca4 after removing it [18:26] sounds like a caching issue to me [18:28] running that did it [18:29] yep caching issue [22:09] hi can i ignore erros like this when building debian packages? "dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to " [22:09] the project i want to build generates some sourcecode during the build and debuild seems to have problems with that [22:10] kaimast: Is it referring to binary build artifacts? Best to start from a pristine source tree when building the source package [22:11] TJ-: it is referring to .mk files. [22:12] not really sure what pristine source tree means [22:12] kaimast: make files? Hmmm, can you pastebin the complete output from dpkg-source ? [22:14] here you go: http://pastebin.com/cMkR5Qs2 [22:15] well it is actually the complete output from debuild :) [22:16] kaimast: I assume this is after building the package once already? [22:16] kaimast: the explanation is pretty clear; you've got symlinks replacing files [22:17] but i have no idea where they are coming from. [22:18] kaimast: If this is after building the package before in the same directory: Either teach the upstream build system to remove those on "clean" or add them to debian/clean to let dh_clean remove them. [22:21] or use extend-diff-ignore, see man dpkg-source [22:23] Okay, so I have 14.04 crashing all over, and I'm trying to get a pen drive installed, and "Startup Disk Creator" was having a tantrum and apparently is associated with my spontaneous reboots. [22:23] I guess I'd better just make a drive and go back to 13.10, which was my intent all along. Sorry for the trouble. [22:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6893946/ [22:26] Ampelbein: thanks that seemed to have worked [22:42] is there a trusty mini iso? [22:42] not until now. [23:12] shadeslayer: okay on re-login the touchpad settings reset; not sure if that's because I had to hard reboot or not [23:13] happens everytime? [23:13] kcm shows old settings? [23:14] just once so far [23:14] need to try again [23:50] hi [23:50] help gnome-shell [23:54] I work after upgrading to medium lettering and icons half half [23:56] hrmmmmm. i cannot find the mini iso anywhere