[00:15] <peyam> hi
[00:15] <peyam> Anybody here
[00:15] <k1l> yes
[00:15] <k1l> how can we help you?
[00:16] <peyam> There is a racist in #ubuntu-se that saying very effensive stuff and I really want him kicked
[00:18] <peyam> k1l, can you help?
[00:20] <k1l> peyam: yes, we have some people looking into that issue right now.
[00:25] <ntwerdochlib> I here there is a racist in here?
[00:25] <k1l> ntwerdochlib: nope, no racists here
[00:25] <peyam> he is quite now
[00:25] <peyam> its not first time he talks to me that way
[00:25] <knome> peyam, so can you confirm, he's one of the frequent users of the channel?
[00:26] <knome> peyam, and generally well behaving
[00:26] <knome> peyam, or does he continue to be a problem?
[00:26] <peyam> no not maxjenzy. he is respected member in our channel
[00:27] <peyam> it is totsinaprops . wverytime he gets into the channel he attacks me and other people with nonswedish background
[00:27] <knome> right, so we missed the racist comments.
[00:28] <peyam> no he come late at nights or evening. and unfortunatly ops are not available that time
[00:28] <peyam> knome, I can give you his comments. commenst are available on ubuntu-se.org IRC logs
[00:29] <ntwerdochlib> strange case of racism.
[00:29] <peyam> pretty normal in Sweden
[00:29] <ntwerdochlib> really?
[00:30] <ntwerdochlib> never been, but have a swedish friend and he always seems cool
[00:30] <knome> ntwerdochlib, do you need help with something?
[00:30] <ntwerdochlib> knome, no.  really wanted to meet the racist.
[00:31] <knome> ntwerdochlib, in that case, please leave the channel as we have a non-idle policy here
[00:31] <phunyguy> totsinaprops was in #ubuntu-offtopic earlier... might still be I think
[00:31] <phunyguy> yup, he still is
[04:29] <IdleOne> sigh
[04:36] <rww> hrm?
[04:37] <IdleOne> just tired
[04:39] <IdleOne> @mark hojuruku talks a lot, says nothing, not very helpful. Seems to just want to complain and boast about his extensive know how.
[04:39] <rww> IdleOne: probably missed a channel there
[04:39] <IdleOne> iirc the bot marks the channel it shares with the user
[04:40] <IdleOne> needs channel if user is not in any
[04:40] <rww> @btlogin
[04:40] <IdleOne> I could be wrong
[04:40] <rww> IdleOne: you are, it defaults to the current channel
[04:40] <rww> (i.e. that one @marked scrollback here)
[04:41] <IdleOne> ah
[04:41] <rww> 'sokay, now you can just @comment instead :P
[04:42] <IdleOne> hah
[04:44] <IdleOne> so yeah, tired and a little bit on edge
[04:44] <IdleOne> been a rough 15 years
[05:06] <IdleOne> Never had someone use the "I'm australian so it is ok for me to be a homophobic jerk" excuse
[05:06] <IdleOne> interesting approach
[05:09] <rww> to be fair 105% of australians are homophobic
[05:09] <IdleOne> still not an excuse
[05:39] <rww> !derivatives
[05:39] <rww> Kali and Crunchbang aren't Ubuntu derivatives.
[05:39] <rww> Objections to !derivatives =~ s/kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), // ?
[05:39] <IdleOne> they used to be
[05:39] <IdleOne> go for it if it applies
[05:40] <rww> Crunchbang hasn't been since 2011, and I don't remember Kali ever being, though I don't pay much attention to it.
[05:41] <IdleOne> do what you think is right, if it isn't it can be fixed
[05:41] <IdleOne> if it can't be fixed, you will be tarred and feathered
[05:42] <rww> gnewsense isn't an ubuntu erivative either
[05:42] <rww> and backtrack isn't maintained
[05:42] <rww> what Ubuntu derivatives /are/ there apart from Mint these days
[05:45] <rww> !derivatives =~ s/^.*changes./Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes./
[05:45] <rww> !derivatives
[05:45] <rww> sigh, I always forget that
[05:45] <rww> !derivatives =~ s/^/<reply> /
[05:45] <rww> !derivatives
[05:45] <rww> well whaever it's fixed now
[05:45] <IdleOne> !derivatives
[05:56] <Unit193> Kali was the move to Debian, yes.
[05:57] <rww> what other derivatives do we see
[05:57] <rww> elementary?
[05:57] <Unit193> Peppermint, bodhi, elementary, etc.
[05:57] <IdleOne> trisquel
[05:58] <rww> wat is peppermint
[06:00] <Unit193> "Cloud based"
[06:02] <Unit193> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeTeam/Derivatives
[06:03] <rww> congrats on crashing rekonq
[06:03] <Unit193> \o/
[06:03] <Unit193> Firefox likes it. :----D
[06:04] <rww> okays, Elementary is #elementary, Bodhi is #bodhilinux
[06:04] <Unit193> Thought elementary was #el*OS
[06:05] <rww> so did i but i went to the website and it isn't
[06:06] <rww> trisquel is #trisquel
[06:07] <rww> (which of these do we actually get people asking about?)
[06:08] <IdleOne> kali is the most common I think and why can't I join the channel (root ident)
[06:09] <rww> okays, i leave channel as it is then :D
[06:09] <rww> erm
[06:09] <rww> factoid
[10:02] <DJones> Is eliseo in #ubuntu using the wrong terminal, or trying to be an issue?
[12:28] <k1l> regarding backlog: we still have user coming for kali, backtrack and crunchbang because they used to be based on ubuntu or are similar
[12:30] <bazhang> bt became kali afaik
[12:30] <k1l> yep and switched to debian base.
[12:30] <bazhang> elementary seems to get a fair number of questions
[12:31] <k1l> but doesnt stop user form asking in #u because the cant join/write in their channels (root@ blocked) and the idlerate is quite high
[12:32] <bazhang> ofc
[12:32] <k1l> elementary redirects a lot of users to #u. that was what user with elementary told
[12:32] <bazhang> people running trusty do the same thing
[13:33] <ikonia> reading the scroll back it's pretty poor
[13:33] <ikonia> the guys in #elementary pretty much can't support anything, moan and complain about #ubuntu but then tell each other to use #ubuntu as #elemtary doesn't know
[15:46] <Pici> makin' friends
[15:47] <ikonia> ?
[15:47] <Pici> 10:45:16 <?glippi> I like unicorns
[15:47] <Pici> 10:45:29 <Pici> glippi: so does #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:47] <Pici> 10:46:13 <?glippi> Pici: 1 thing I say and you immediately cry like a little bitch! :) You must be fun to be around....
[15:47] <ikonia> delightful
[15:59] <LjL> Pici: tell him i uninstalled AOKP because too many unicorns
[17:49] <derp> Just passing by <3
[17:57] <LjL> thank you and come again
[18:19] <genii> LjL: For some reason I imagine you saying that in the voice of Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
[18:20] <LjL-Card> genii: that was the intent :P
[18:20] <genii> Hah!
[18:29] <genii> For those that don't know yet already... 14.04 Release Parties was just added to the LoCo page. Let the carousing begin!
[18:31] <phunyguy> weellll woopity-doooo!
[18:31] <phunyguy> <3
[18:31] <IdleOne> We all invited?
[18:31]  * IdleOne packs the juice boxes in ice
[18:32] <genii> IdleOne: I know it's long drive for you to do Toronto, but as always please mention it where possible ;)
[18:33] <IdleOne> mentioned to the black sheep of the country
[18:33] <IdleOne> :)
[18:33] <IdleOne> what a horrible saying
[18:33] <IdleOne> sorry
[18:35] <genii> Bah. You're too politically correct sometimes.
[18:35] <IdleOne> true
[18:35] <IdleOne> I'll try being more like you Torontonians from now on lol
[18:37] <LjL-Card> mute me now
[18:40] <IdleOne> why did I mute you?
[18:40] <IdleOne> :)
[18:41] <IdleOne> oh right
[18:47] <LjL> IdleOne: because i was coming up with practical examples of how to call you too politically correct in very politically incorrect ways ;(
[18:52] <IdleOne> heh
[19:00] <phunyguy> ahhahaha
[20:17] <bazhang> !13.04
[20:18] <bazhang> yikes!
[20:18] <Pici> yep
[20:18] <phunyguy> only 9 months for that one total
[20:18] <bazhang> at this rate of support we'll be on greek letters by 2015
[20:19] <phunyguy> o.O.... that doesn't change the release cycle... just the support cycle..
[20:19] <phunyguy> :)
[20:23] <LjL-Card> i was just trying to outpace Canonical at their own game when i said floodbot support would end "yesterday", you know
[20:23] <k1l_> is this a translation error? i think the 13.04 upgrade sould work without EOL sources
[20:23] <k1l_> File "/usr/bin/do-release-upgrade", line 123, in <module>"%(url)s\n") % { 'url' : url })
[20:27] <phunyguy> hmmm
[21:38] <DJones> Anybody recognise Shar as a bot? 21:33 < Shar> night98 (night98@netadmin.CrazyChat.com) has Joined #ubuntu...........But night98 hadn't joined #ubuntu
[21:39] <Pici> nope
[21:40] <DJones> Also posted 21:30 < Shar> night98 has Quit (Client exited)
[21:41] <DJones> But again, nothing in the channel to show night98 as a freenode user
[21:41] <k1l_> yep
[21:41] <DJones> Thats not even a nick on freenode
[21:41] <ldunn> a relay bot, perhaps?
[21:41] <DJones> I think so
[21:42] <DJones> From another network even
[21:42] <DJones> I'm going to remove and ask them to join here to explain what happening
[21:43] <k1l_> no ctcp version answer and no respond in pm.
[21:45] <DJones> As sent to Shar Please join #ubuntu-ops to explain your postings in the channel, night98 isn't in #ubuntu therefore your postings appear to be spam/bot related
[21:45] <k1l_> thundernetworks.net seems to be some sort of irc network?
[21:45] <DJones> Sounds more like as ldunn suggested as a relay bot then
[21:46] <ldunn> uh
[21:46] <Pici> weird
[21:46] <ldunn> just connected to thundernetworks.net, and got 08:45 -!- Irssi: Your nick is owned by Liam [ldunn@freenode/staff/ldunn]
[21:46] <Pici> I connected to irc.thundernetworks.net
[21:46] <Pici> me too
[21:47] <ldunn> looks like it's basically a complete mirror of at least #ubuntu
[21:47] <DJones> ok, I've banned "Shar" but they're still on #ubuntu
[21:47] <k1l_> wallfreenode? :)
[21:47] <DJones> 21:44                  DJones sets +b *!*mirror@*.thundernetworks.net
[21:47] <DJones> 21:44 < Shar> night98 has Quit (Client exited)
[21:47] <DJones> 21:44                  ChanServ sets -o DJones
[21:48] <LjL-Card> welcome to the rabbit hole
[21:48]  * DJones gives LjL-Card a blue pill
[21:49] <k1l_> DJones: it rejoined right before the ban was set
[21:49] <DJones> Wierd
[21:49] <DJones> IdleOne: Got it anyway
[21:51] <genii> What are they on about with the "dongforce" thing?
[21:51] <IdleOne> probably nothing we care about
[21:52] <LjL-Card> unless we're curious and have a lot of time on our hands
[21:52] <LjL-Card> i have the latter
[21:53] <LjL-Card> but i think i forgot my curiosity back on ircnet
[21:53] <Pici> forwardds to ##you_have_got_to_be_kidding
[21:53] <k1l_> !guidelines > arvut
[21:53] <genii> At first it sounded slightly obscene, but maybe it has to do something with force USB dongle or some-such
[21:54] <Pici> here we go
[21:55] <Pici> Dj-Wolf: hi. Is 'shar' yours?
[21:55] <Dj-Wolf> was ya
[21:55] <Dj-Wolf> lol
[21:56] <Pici> Unapproved bots are not allowed in our channels.
[21:56] <Dj-Wolf> if you didn't want in there all you had to do was ask.. it was my BNC i was setting things up....
[21:56] <DJones> Dj-Wolf: What was its purpose, the #ubuntu-* channels do have a policy of no unapproved bots
[21:56] <Pici> We had no way of knowing it was yours.
[21:56] <Dj-Wolf> oh that's ok..
[21:56] <Dj-Wolf> i'm not like mad over it or anything..
[21:56] <Dj-Wolf> hehe
[21:56] <LjL-Card> Dj-Wolf: and i regularly remind them of that policy by bringing in unapproved bots, so it's not like you can easily get away with it
[21:57] <Dj-Wolf> i know how it is running a channel everyone has rules :oD
[21:57] <DJones> Dj-Wolf: There is ##test that you can use for testing, the bot had started making comments in the channel about users that weren't in the channel
[21:57] <Dj-Wolf> oh..
[21:58] <LjL-Card> Dj-Wolf, general rule about bots: if you're pretty sure it won't talk in the wrong channel, it will
[21:58] <Dj-Wolf> shouldn't have been doing anything at all.. sorry guys/girls
[21:58] <LjL-Card> it's okay, no one was badly hurt, and only a few ubuntu members were killed
[21:58] <Dj-Wolf> that's odd i'm going to have to check it out and make sure there's nothing screwy with it
[21:59] <Dj-Wolf> people got killed?
[21:59] <LjL-Card> i'm kidding man
[21:59] <Dj-Wolf> oh ok
[21:59] <Dj-Wolf> i was like OH SNAP!
[21:59] <Dj-Wolf> lol
[21:59] <LjL-Card> note kidding not killing
[21:59] <Dj-Wolf> i know
[21:59] <Dj-Wolf> :oD
[22:00] <Dj-Wolf> anyways i was going to talk to you guys anyways about it.. but i was setting other stuff up... i wasn't even thinking.. :o/
[22:01] <LjL-Card> Dj-Wolf: well, i'm not an op in #ubuntu so i don't know if this can be acceptable, but if you'd like to test it again, i suggest you ask here first to get it muted, so in the worst case, it won't talk in the channel by mistake (and i expect the ops here would also want to know what it's doing and why you need to test it in #ubuntu)
[22:02] <Dj-Wolf> basically i was making a script that helps with Ubuntu issues...
[22:03] <Dj-Wolf> you would be able to dcc chat it and stuff
[22:03] <Dj-Wolf> for info
[22:27] <IdleOne> Dj-Wolf: I think it would fine if you put your bot in #ubuntu provided you can assure us that it won't relay from there to here. We don't need more noise :)
[23:21] <Dj-Wolf> i will assure you it won't
[23:21] <Dj-Wolf> i find the big in it
[23:21] <Dj-Wolf> lol
[23:23] <Dj-Wolf> uhh
[23:23] <Dj-Wolf> i found the bug in the script
[23:23] <Dj-Wolf> that's what i ment
[23:23] <Dj-Wolf> wow