[00:17] <slangasek> Noskcaj: xfce4-weather-plugin> sure, having a look
[00:17] <slangasek> xnox: interestingly, you've just inspired me to do a search that has turned up what seems to be the original Latin form of the saying: "nota res mala, optima"
[00:22] <xnox> slangasek: not the "melior diabolus quem scies" as in the NATO's mission patch for NROL-49 ?
[00:22] <xnox> slangasek: i wonder if all of them are fake translations to latin, instead of original latin =)
[00:25] <slangasek> xnox: the "melior diabolus" one looks to me like a valid back-translation to Latin (modulo the scies/cognoscies distinction, where I am in complete agreement with Colin), but does not have the ring of a classic Latin phrase; whereas the other looks like idiomatic Latin and is cited as Plautus by at least some sites
[00:31] <xnox> slangasek: i will still claim it's a Madonna song quote ;-)
[04:33] <Noskcaj> slangasek, Thanks, that should be the last non-backports change needed for precise
[09:43] <Laney> how did synaptics migrate given the Breaks from x-x-i-s to kde-config-touchpad?
[09:45] <cjwatson> p-m will only care about that if some single package requires installing both
[09:49] <Laney> mmm, because it's only a recommends of kubuntu-desktop
[09:53] <cjwatson> oh, hey, I should disable auto-sync
[09:53] <cjwatson> done
[09:54] <cjwatson> we are now slightly belatedly in Debian import freeze
[09:54] <Laney> exciting
[09:56] <Laney> what's the kubuntu failure about? do image builds enforce recommends?
[10:09] <cjwatson> Some do
[10:09] <cjwatson> Well, sort of
[10:10] <cjwatson> They'll be installing a task which is generated from Recommends
[10:10] <cjwatson> So it's roughly equivalent to apt-get installing each of the expanded entries individually
[10:10] <Laney> nod
[14:35] <didrocks> robru: cyphermox_: sil2100: Mirv: ogra_: new touch image kicked, with the lxc fix
[14:35] <ogra_> thanks !
[14:40] <stgraber> didrocks: so I'm a bit confused, where are we using lxc-autostart on touch?
[14:41] <didrocks> stgraber: I guess the init upstart script is run from what cyphermox_ told me, but he will have the details
[14:42] <cyphermox_> stgraber: /etc/init/lxc.conf
[14:42] <sil2100> \o/
[14:42] <sil2100> didrocks, ogra_: and the music-app fix as well
[14:42] <cyphermox_> so it's *not* used, but it does still trigger and blow up
[14:42] <stgraber> ah right, so it didn't actually break anything, just caused extra crash reports, good
[14:43] <ogra_> stgraber, right
[14:43] <stgraber> otherwise I'd have been very worried about my test setup here as I did make sure touch would still boot with the new lxc before uploading it
[14:43] <ogra_> i would have overridden it in lxc-android-config
[14:43] <ogra_> but seems cyphermox_ found another fix
[14:43] <ogra_> (i just hope it doesnt run now and eat our battery)
[14:44] <stgraber> hmm, interesting, I don't actually have a crash file on my phone...
[14:44] <cyphermox_> ogra_: it's only running on startup, it doesn't leave any daemon in the background
[14:44] <cyphermox_> stgraber: image 169?
[14:44] <ogra_> good
[14:44] <stgraber> cyphermox_: equivalent, lxc beta4 -0ubuntu1, but I guess it's the same thing you hit on amd64, the segfault depends on your memory content
[14:45] <stgraber> so I was just "lucky" enough not to hit it when I test booted the device yesterday
[14:45] <cyphermox_> stgraber: yeah
[14:45] <stgraber> anyway, your fix is correct and upstream now
[14:45] <cyphermox_> thansk
[18:48] <xnox> infinity: can you please promote unity-settings-daemon into main?
[18:49] <xnox> infinity: it has a mir bug #1277485 but actually it's a no (little) code change fork of gnome-settings-daemon.
[18:49] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1277485 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) " [MIR] unity-settings-daemon" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1277485
[19:33] <infinity> xnox: Done.
[20:06] <xnox> infinity: ta!
[20:06] <mdeslaur> xnox: can we get the gnome one demoted?
[20:07] <xnox> mdeslaur: that's what I argued for.
[20:07] <xnox> mdeslaur: here at the table, whilst getting trolled by seb128.
[20:07] <xnox> mdeslaur: so they split the schema into a new binary package provided by gnome-settings-daemon.
[20:07] <xnox> mdeslaur: so the gnome-settings-daemon src will stay in main.
[20:07] <mdeslaur> xnox: hrm
[20:08] <xnox> mdeslaur: but all binaries (but schema package) can be published into universe.
[20:08] <mdeslaur> xnox: ok, cool
[20:08] <xnox> mdeslaur: and we can't do that just yet, as we are fixing all the deps "gnome-settings-daemon" -> "gnome-settings-daemon-schemas"
[20:08] <mdeslaur> that's fine, as long as we don't end up with two to maintain
[20:09] <xnox> mdeslaur: so it's not that bad, but gives the "main"/core-dev control over schemas to not break unity7.
[20:09]  * mdeslaur nods
[20:09] <xnox> mdeslaur: yeah, will track to demote those, once we switch unity7 to use unity-settings-daemon by default.
[20:11] <infinity> xnox: No need to take action on demotion, it'll just happen once nothing in main depends on them.
[20:12] <xnox> well, getting nothing to depend on them... =)
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