[05:28] <Kilos> hi not_found nlsthzn psydroid and others
[05:28] <Kilos> you here twice neelsie
[05:28] <not_found> yup
[05:29] <not_found> stupid unity not playing nice with xchat when I minimize to trat
[05:29] <not_found> *tray
[05:29] <Kilos> ai!
[05:29] <Kilos> i give it its own workspace
[05:29] <not_found> when I click on xhcat in the tray it opens a new instances and doesn't bring back the old
[05:30] <Kilos> i had that prob and if you start it again it then opens the first window again
[05:31] <Kilos> dont close anything just open again
[05:32] <Kilos> is that what you mean? the buddy list thing dont open
[05:32] <not_found> sure I could do that...
[05:33] <not_found> or did what I used to do and use the functionality built into the system
[05:33] <Kilos> thats too involved for me
[05:33] <Kilos> i like things simple
[05:34] <not_found> it removes it from the unity bar and then if I get pinged I can see and hear it and I open it... helps a lot to declutter if you have lots of stuff open
[05:35] <Kilos> haha
[05:35] <Kilos> thats why 9 workspaces are good for me
[05:35] <not_found> eish
[05:35] <Kilos> xchat pidgin an evo each have their own workspace
[05:36] <Kilos> i like apartheid
[05:37] <Kilos> hey neil do you whatsapp?
[05:41] <not_found> yup
[05:41] <Kilos> oh ya you do
[05:41] <not_found> well I have to install again... installed a new rom again >.<
[05:41] <Kilos> ive got a plugin for pidgin for it
[05:42] <not_found> cool
[05:42] <not_found> that can be handy
[05:42] <Kilos> but then you need to get whatsapi and that eneded me with a github thing
[05:42] <Kilos> and still aint found the whatapi to get or change a password
[05:43] <not_found> er...
[05:43] <Kilos> http://davidgf.net/page/39/whatsapp-on-your-computer:-pidgin-plugin
[05:43] <not_found> sounds complicated and I am not sure how you will get passed the authentication via sms thing?!
[05:44] <Kilos> they have a plan but its involved for me
[05:45] <not_found> they mention pre-built binaries 
[05:45] <Kilos> with modem-manager-gui installed you can see smses to the modem
[05:46] <Kilos> i went the route of getting the plugin in pidgin. im lost with the binaries
[05:46] <not_found> but you don't have a phone number when using broadband
[05:46] <Kilos> ya the usb modem has a sim in
[05:46] <not_found> ah ok... in my case no "modem" so no number :p
[05:47] <Kilos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/333850/how-to-install-whatsapp
[05:47] <not_found> not that I can think of why I would really want to use whatsapp on my desktop :p
[05:47] <Kilos> ive looked at a few sites for info on it. one okey shows it running in his pidgin
[05:48] <Kilos> typing on cells is a pain
[05:48] <not_found> perhaps uncle Kilos needs a better cell :p
[05:48] <Kilos> and my cell dont do whatsapp
[05:48] <Kilos> lol
[05:49] <Kilos> no man money goes to data and meds, the cell is for smses only
[05:51] <not_found> not me that feels I need to use whatsapp :p
[05:51] <Kilos> no place in head to learn more stuff
[05:51] <Kilos> yeah i need to use it too but from here not an extra applience
[05:53] <Kilos> ill keep slogging at it till i got it worked out. atm the whatsapp server keeps disconnecting my pidgin from it so i think its just the password thing still needs sorting
[05:54] <not_found> already authenticated by receiving a sms
[05:57] <Kilos> there is lots written about getting to ask for new password on the pc, thats where that whatsapi thing comes in
[05:59] <not_found> reminds me of the days of trying to get mixit to work on the PC... every update of pidgin it would be broken again :p
[05:59] <Kilos> just gotta find where it is hiding in the github thing
[06:00] <Kilos> yeah the libpurple thing
[06:00] <not_found> lol
[06:00] <not_found> yup
[06:00] <Kilos> i also battled with that
[06:00] <Kilos> Squirm, helped me
[06:02] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:02] <Kilos> hi there inetpro 
[06:02] <not_found> morning inetpro 
[06:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:18] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy SilverCode :-)
[06:19]  * not_found runs do-release-upgrade -d in terminal >.<
[06:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> already? :-o
[06:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> I usually wait for beta 2
[06:20]  * not_found is hoping some of the work in Unity has paid off
[06:20] <not_found> not that there has been so much focus on Unity for the last two cycles :/
[07:01]  * Kilos hates these funny caption things to check if you are human
[07:02] <Kilos> the whatsapp password change ones are the worst
[07:02] <inetpro> uh
[07:02] <Kilos> i cant see the things
[07:03]  * Kilos cries
[07:03] <Kilos> and no audio option
[07:04] <not_found> :(
[07:04] <inetpro> where do you even change a password for whatsapp?
[07:05] <Kilos> https://whatsapp.zendesk.com/access/help
[07:05] <not_found> when you try and use it on a desktop :p
[07:05] <Kilos> can you see them not_found 
[07:05] <inetpro> you sure that is official whatsapp support?
[07:06]  * not_found doubts it... looks fishy
[07:06] <Kilos> "WhatsApp Support : Password reset" https://whatsapp.zendesk.com/access/help 
[07:06] <inetpro> why do they use the zendesk domain?
[07:06]  * not_found isn't going to click random links from the internet
[07:07] <Kilos> Maaz_, google  how to ask for a new whatsapp password
[07:07] <Maaz_> Kilos: "WhatsApp Support : Password reset" https://whatsapp.zendesk.com/access/help :: "How do I associate my WhatsApp account with a new phone number ..." http://www.quora.com/How-do-I-associate-my-WhatsApp-account-with-a-new-phone-number-and-sever-ties-to-the-old-one :: "Problem with Whatsapp - YouWave" http://youwave.com/forum/index.php?topic=2067.0 :: "Sniff
[07:07] <Maaz_> the WhatsApp password from your Android phone or iPhone" http://blog.philippheckel.com/201…
[07:08] <Kilos> i got the plugin going in pidgin, just need to change a password and put in the new one they mail me
[07:12] <Kilos> i cant get past this page because of the caption
[07:12] <Kilos> https://whatsapp.zendesk.com/registration
[07:17] <not_found> try another browser perhaps
[07:19] <Kilos> ooo yay after about 20 another 2 words please sis managed to get one that works
[07:19] <Kilos> w00000t
[07:20]  * Kilos dances a jig
[07:24] <sakhi> Morning
[07:24] <Kilos> ohi sakhi wb
[07:26] <not_found> working now uncle Kilos ?
[07:26] <Kilos> well im registered with them and changed password but it still dont login with pidgin
[07:26] <Kilos> grrr
[07:27] <not_found> :/
[07:28] <Kilos> im not sure if i must still use the cell number or use my name to get it going there
[07:28] <Kilos> will follow up
[07:29] <Kilos> my biggest hassle on pidgin is always the setting up
[09:15] <Vince-0> !
[09:16] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[09:16] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[09:17] <psyatw> hi kilos
[09:31] <Kilos> hi bduk1 
[09:37] <Vince-0> watching the RMS at UKZN recording
[09:38] <Vince-0> need to get the license to release it online
[09:49] <bduk1> More almal
[09:50] <not_found> alo
[10:29] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[13:33] <theblazehen> hi Kilos, all
[13:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> g'day :-)
[13:44] <theblazehen> hey ThatGraemeGuy 
[13:44] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[13:48] <Kilos> oh ThatGraemeGuy 64bit card dont work in 32bit system
[13:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> eh
[13:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> there's no such thing as a 64bit graphics card, i told you
[13:50] <Kilos> i even tried installing boinc stuff
[13:50]  * inetpro tends to agree with ThatGraemeGuy
[13:50] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy, maybe refering to x64 driver?
[13:50] <Kilos> systems only works from command line
[13:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> theblazehen: agreed, but in this case its the 32-bit edition of Ubuntu
[13:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> so not relevant in this case
[13:53] <Kilos> surely the card would work in buntu 32bit and 64bit if there wasnt such a thing as a 64bit card guys
[13:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah, it would
[13:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> your problem is not what you think it is
[13:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> there is no such thing as a 64bit graphics card
[13:53] <Kilos> it only works from 64bit ubuntu
[13:54] <Kilos> unity and kde 32bit boot to cli
[13:54] <theblazehen> Kilos, that's one a fresh ubuntu install right?
[13:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm guessing no :-)
[13:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> but let's not open that can of worms again :-D
[13:55] <Kilos> im trying to find out why
[13:55] <Kilos> both 32bits are old running 12.04s
[13:56] <Vince-0> my graphics card is 384bit
[13:56] <Kilos> the 64 was installed without the card in
[13:56] <Kilos> why dont my systems work with it in then please
[13:57] <Kilos> im not trying to be funny
[13:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> neither am I man, i have no answer for you
[13:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> all i'm saying is that what you are saying is not a thing
[13:58] <Kilos> oj
[13:58] <Kilos> oh
[13:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> a graphics card is just a graphics card, it will need 32-bit or 64-bit DRIVERS, depending on your OS, but the card is just a piece of hardware
[14:00] <Kilos> well im totally lost because i tried installing nvidia-319 while in cli but that made no diffs
[14:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> does a 32-bit livecd start a GUI?
[14:00] <Kilos> i used the 319 because thats what additional drivers found in the 64bit system
[14:01] <Kilos> i will try that 
[14:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> it is an nvidia card, right?
[14:01] <Vince-0> the "384bit" in my case is the bus width on the card
[14:01] <Kilos> its a gainward geforce 210
[14:02] <Vince-0> I think
[14:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok cool, just checking :-)
[14:04] <Kilos> HDMI and HDCP on the box
[14:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> I'd try a livecd and see if that has a GUI
[14:05] <Kilos> ok will do ty
[14:06] <Kilos> wbb sometime. have a good weekend ThatGraemeGuy 
[14:06] <inetpro> Kilos: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?
[14:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> ta, you too
[14:06] <inetpro> :-)
[14:06] <Kilos> im lost inetpro 
[14:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> hehehe
[14:07]  * inetpro just pulling Kilos' leg
[14:07] <Kilos> that dont pull me outa the lost zone man
[14:07] <inetpro> sorry oom
[14:07] <Kilos> i want the thing to work from all drives her
[14:08] <Kilos> here
[14:08] <inetpro> Kilos: ThatGraemeGuy gave a good suggestion, might just work
[14:09] <Kilos> im gonna try from livecd and if it works will install again and see
[14:09] <inetpro> good idea
[14:09] <Kilos> later then
[14:52]  * theblazehen has a pfSense VM with 4 NIC's...
[14:52]  * theblazehen is too lazy to VLAN
[16:18] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:18] <theblazehen> Kilos, hmm?
[16:19] <Kilos> hi theblazehen what a job
[16:19] <Kilos> 3 installs
[16:19] <Kilos> i think the prob is somewhere in the screen resolutions
[16:20] <theblazehen> k
[16:20] <theblazehen> k
[16:21] <Kilos> if i leave it at 1024x768 i think it was then my 32bit 12.04 works but im scared to even try install the additional drivers or set the resolution more
[16:21] <theblazehen> ah, kk
[16:21] <theblazehen> Did you previously use nouveau, or the closed drivers?
[16:21] <Kilos> if i change it to higher resolution the screen switches off
[16:22] <Kilos> additional drivers show recommender as nvidia-313
[16:22] <Kilos> recommended
[16:22] <Kilos> will try that some time
[16:23] <Kilos> im running on whatever comes with the basic install now
[16:24] <theblazehen> kk
[16:25] <Kilos> i was getting sad man . everyone says hardware got nothing to do with what os you using but mine kept crashing with the card in
[16:26] <Kilos> n ow i just gotta find out how to set the resolution from cli then i think kde will work too
[16:27]  * Kilos spits on inetpro 
[16:27] <Kilos> he shoulda told me where to look
[16:34] <theblazehen> Kilos, you can set xorg resolution from a terminal with xrandr
[16:35] <Kilos> will look into that ty theblazehen 
[16:35] <theblazehen> np Kilos 
[17:21] <charl> good evening
[17:21] <Kilos> hi charl 
[17:23] <charl> hi Kilos :)
[17:23] <charl> how's it going ?
[17:23] <charl> Maaz_: coffee on
[17:23]  * Maaz_ starts grinding coffee
[17:23] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[17:23] <charl> i'm good !
[17:23] <charl> doing some really cool stuff with capirca
[17:23] <charl> Maaz_: google capirca
[17:23] <Maaz_> charl: "capirca - Multi-platform ACL generation system - Google Project ..." http://code.google.com/p/capirca/ :: "Wiki Pages - capirca - Multi-platform ACL generation system ..." http://code.google.com/p/capirca/w/list :: "PolicyFormat - capirca - Access Control Policy Format - Multi ..." http://code.google.com/p/capirca/wiki/PolicyFormat :: "SLAC's modifications
[17:23] <Maaz_> to the Capirca ACL management package ..." https://confluence.slac.stanford.edu/display/…
[17:24] <charl> i'm busy writing a new version of a web frontend for it
[17:24] <Kilos> ok
[17:27] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for charl!
[17:27] <charl> Maaz_: thanks
[17:27] <Maaz_> charl: No problem
[18:18] <Kilos> hi Golynx spin123456 
[18:18] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:19] <Golynx> hi Kilos
[18:19] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[18:19] <Golynx> cool sig-gen
[18:20] <Kilos> did you see it?
[18:20] <Kilos> ive forgotten how to use it and was looking for a user manual
[18:21] <Golynx> ya i did, but dunno about how to use such devices
[18:21] <Golynx> there should be a manual out there for it
[18:21] <Kilos> haha ill work it out. seems i had money at one stage of my life
[18:22] <Kilos> it was made in 1970
[18:22] <Kilos> i think it came with a manual but thats long gone
[18:24] <Golynx> 0.25 - 0.7 MHz seems a bit high though for its lowest setting
[18:25] <Kilos> as soon as ive worked out how to get the signal to the pc and use xoscope or manage to find my freq counter then well see
[18:26] <Golynx> i dont think you will get to generate below 250 Khz . You need at least 20 Hz minimum
[18:28] <Kilos> well i found a board as well for putting test circuits together
[18:28] <Kilos> called a project board
[18:29] <Kilos> KandH  model gl24
[18:29] <Golynx> ah nice , its those ones you just click in the components without soldering
[18:36] <superfly> hi Kilos
[18:36] <Kilos> yeah
[18:36] <Kilos> hows superfly and family?
[18:37] <superfly> Kilos: fine, fine. superfly is busy, family are keeping superfly busy
[18:38] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:38] <Golynx> hi superfly
[18:38] <Kilos> as long as you are all well thats good
[18:38] <superfly> hi Golynx
[19:16] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[19:16] <Kilos> inetpro, ping
[19:18] <Kilos> hy kruip weg
[19:18] <Kilos> hmm...
[19:19] <psydroid> hi Kilos 
[19:34] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:00] <not_found> g night
[21:02] <somaunn> hi Guys
[22:44] <Private_User> evening people...or should I say very very very early good morning :D