[00:12] <peyam> hi
[00:12] <peyam> knome, are you there?
[00:12] <peyam> anybody
[00:12] <peyam> its urgent
[00:13] <holstein> peyam: just ask
[00:13] <peyam> there is a racist in #ubuntu-se and no ops are there
[00:14] <peyam> and I realy want him banned or kicked
[00:14] <Unit193> peyam: This isn't the channel to go to, we can't do anything.
[00:14] <peyam> do you know how to reach a global op?
[00:15] <Unit193> #ubuntu-ops or #ubuntu-irc, not #xubuntu.
[02:34] <kgb> hey, guys, which RAR are you using?.. http://s29.postimg.org/x2q0t8hwn/Screenshot_02062014_08_31_11_PM.png
[02:35] <kgb> *should I be using??
[02:35] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression#Rar_.28.rar.29 should help you
[02:38] <kgb> holstein: cool!.. tnx, man. :)
[02:39] <kgb> just.. never 2 sure about which won 2 use
[02:40] <holstein> try one, then try the other.. they are free to try
[02:40] <kgb> gotcha
[02:41] <kgb> hm the links on that page ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression#Rar_.28.rar.29 ) for "Universe repository" and "Multiverse repository" seem wrong - both r the same
[02:42] <kgb> ^^ @ knome
[03:29] <xubuntu100> HEllo
[03:29] <xubuntu100> HELlo alll
[03:29] <xubuntu100> yres...
[03:29] <xubuntu100> i use secure coonevtion??
[03:29] <xubuntu100> why
[03:30] <holstein> xubuntu100: hey.. please use the #xubuntu-offtopic channel for chat.. otherwise, let use know if you need some help.. thanks! and welcom
[03:30] <Unit193> Yes hello?
[03:30] <xubuntu100> i need your help....
[03:30] <xubuntu100> i'm newbie for xubuntu
[03:30] <Unit193> !ask
[03:30] <xubuntu100> can you help me...
[03:31] <holstein> xubuntu100: then please refer to the /topic, and just ask your question and a volutneer will let you konw if they can help
[03:31] <xubuntu100> how to share folder on xubuntu??
[03:31] <holstein> i share with ssh
[03:31] <holstein> !samba
[03:31] <holstein> there are many ways to share directories
[03:32] <xubuntu100> yes thank...
[03:32] <xubuntu100> i'll try it...
[03:44] <ayin> good morning
[03:44] <ayin> anyone help me ?
[03:45] <Unit193> Got a question to ask?
[03:46] <ayin> how to create a folder shared to windows in xubuntu ?
[03:46] <Unit193> !samba | Still going to want to use samba
[03:47] <Unit193> I've used it, works.
[03:49] <ayin> thanks
[03:49] <ayin> i try now
[03:55] <ayin> thanks. it work
[06:10] <darkstar-> oh hello
[06:10] <Unit193> Howdy.
[06:11] <darkstar-> hey Unit193 , i'm 1st time here
[06:12] <darkstar-> need probably some help to install xubuntu on a special machine
[06:12] <Unit193> Can't help until we know the problem.
[06:12] <darkstar-> guessed something like that. ;)
[06:13] <darkstar-> its a thinpc with via chip, 1 gig ram, 2 gig flash "hdd". tried install with alternate cd. but ran into some probs
[06:13] <darkstar-> link  to pc: http://www.tangent.com/business/thin-clients/thin160
[06:13] <ethermonk> what where the problems?
[06:14] <darkstar-> was a xp embedded machine before
[06:14] <ethermonk> were*
[06:14] <darkstar-> no cd drive, thatswhy install with USB stick.
[06:14] <darkstar-> but the thing searched for a cd drive and was very slow...
[06:14] <darkstar-> after 1st bootup, blackscreen
[06:15] <darkstar-> install was like 2 or 3 hours before...
[06:15] <darkstar-> could it be a prob with the via chip?
[06:15] <darkstar-> heard there might be some probs
[06:15] <Unit193> I thought there were problems with via, but I'd say to try nomodeset.
[06:16] <ethermonk> yes. set nomodeset as boot option on install disk
[06:16] <darkstar-> Unit193: just some more info to nomodeset?
[06:16] <darkstar-> ohh okay.
[06:16] <Unit193> !nomodeset
[06:17] <ethermonk> the boot splash is not showing, and depending on the setup, it could take as long as 20 minutes for it to boot
[06:17] <Unit193> And, wasn't there an alternate install method or option for thinpc type devices..
[06:17] <darkstar-> Unit193: i tried the alternate cd, cause with the desktop cd you need 4,5gig hdd. with alternate 2gig is enough
[06:17] <Unit193> !ltsp
[06:18] <ethermonk> thats what i need
[06:18] <Unit193> That's what I was thinking, though likely for some other reason. :P
[06:21] <darkstar-> could it also be a prob with non-PAE capable hardware?
[06:21] <darkstar-> like http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html ?
[06:21] <darkstar-> not sure if the install would already fail, or just 1st startup
[06:22] <darkstar-> one sec.
[06:45] <darkstar-> okay, there is a Via C7 cpu installed. as far as i know the cpu is supported by xubuntu 12.04 lts " all VIA C7 processors (Esther cores) are compatible". the prob starts when the hardware check begins and the search for the cd-drive
[06:46] <darkstar-> it becomes very slow and results in black screen after bootup.
[06:46] <darkstar-> i'm sure it should work somehow, guess you have just to set up a special parameter...
[07:04] <ethermonk> yes
[07:04] <ethermonk> it does
[07:04] <ethermonk> and it could stay like that for up to 20 minutes while its booting. how much time are you giving it before you give up and force it off?
[07:06] <ethermonk> it's not exactly the words fastest hardware, and your running it from a very slow, unidirectional bus (The USB)
[07:09] <ethermonk> and if it takes 20 minutes to boot, you can expect the install to take between 45 minutes and 4 hours
[07:10] <Unit193> That's a looong time.  Remove  quiet splash  from the boot prompt to see what's going on though.
[07:18] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys when I go to power management, and try and change my screen to dim on idle when on battery, I get a crash and it does not actually change or dim the light when I do not move the mouse for 12 + seconds (to test it out) anything I can do to attempt a fix..
[07:18] <ethermonk> i still dont ever get to see anything during the boot process.  installed linuxlogo and i dont get to see it  >_<
[07:19] <ethermonk> which ubuntu?
[07:21] <Psil0Cybin> Xubuntu
[07:21] <ethermonk> 12.04? 13.10?
[07:21] <Psil0Cybin> 12.04
[07:22] <Psil0Cybin> I think it may be a driver issue, yet everything works perfectly fine.
[07:22] <Psil0Cybin> I recently changed in this "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=Linux" in grub
[07:22] <Psil0Cybin> in order to get the backlight to turn on by default for boot, but the dimmer, usually works with keys thus i am confused why an auto dim would cause a crash and not work
[07:23] <ethermonk> try disabling ACPI
[07:23] <Psil0Cybin> acpi is what gave me the backlight after boot
[07:23] <ethermonk> and lapic
[07:23] <Psil0Cybin> without it my screen is black after the default xubuntu screen
[07:23] <Psil0Cybin> and i have to manually hit the backlight key
[07:23] <Psil0Cybin> which is odd, so i want to keep acpi for now
[07:23] <ethermonk> i wish my laptop did that
[07:24] <Psil0Cybin> I guess i can live without the auto dim, but i would like it
[07:24] <Psil0Cybin> to save battery time :D
[07:26] <ethermonk> i havent seen 12.04 have power issues
[07:26] <ethermonk> try posting a message in the forums if you dont get a quick responce here or in #ubuntu
[07:32] <darkstar-> one hint: disable ACPI in bios was the reason why install was so slow
[07:32] <darkstar-> so uncheck ACPI support.
[07:33] <darkstar-> thanks for all the help, i will come back later
[07:33] <ethermonk> i will try that next time
[07:34] <ethermonk> and terminal services
[09:11] <ezrhino> hello. Can someone please tell me the command to dl xubuntu ?
[09:17] <elfy> ezrhino: what are you trying to do here? get the iso or install xubuntu in another *buntu?
[09:18] <elfy> http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
[09:19] <elfy> or sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop from within another *buntu
[09:19] <ezrhino> ty
[09:19] <ezrhino> i thought the easy was was to just sudo command install it, then logout and back in
[09:20] <ezrhino> yes with regular ubuntu
[09:20] <elfy> yea - though bear in mind you will have applications from both xubuntu and ubuntu
[09:20] <elfy> and when you login you need to choose xubuntu rather than ubuntu
[09:20] <ezrhino> will it use more resources? i kinda already setup the duel boot
[09:20] <elfy> it will use more disk space
[09:20] <ezrhino> idont care
[09:20] <elfy> should be fine
[09:21] <ezrhino> thank you very much
[09:21] <ezrhino> is this the correct command to install 32bt librayrs sudo apt-get install ia32-libs?
[09:22] <ezrhino> yep worked
[09:22] <ezrhino> be wel
[09:36] <xubuntu569> Hi I am looking for some new laptops/netbooks compatible with xubuntu...any ideas?. spoke to novotec and it isnt 'supported'...im not technical so this doesnt help!
[09:46] <elfy> xubuntu569: I buy from novatech - never had much problems - however you might want to have a look http://forum.novatech.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?53-Linux
[09:48] <xubuntu569> thanks elfy will take a look
[09:48] <elfy> welcome
[10:02] <kaffeebohne> xubuntu569: anything with intel cpu and intel gpu should be good supported, if it is not the newest hardware. I'd recommend a laptop of lenovos 'thinkpad' line, I have a T420 and there are no problems with linux based system. Don't buy new with an nvidia graphics, you'll run into trubles with the switchable graphics.
[10:28] <xubuntu569> Thanks for the heads up kaffeebohne
[10:28] <baizon> kaffeebohne: havent you read the latest news?
[10:29] <kaffeebohne> That would be baizon?
[10:32] <baizon> kaffeebohne: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1tymc4/lenovo_thinkpad_t540p_bricked_booting_linux/
[10:33] <baizon> this also affects other thinkpad models
[10:33] <kaffeebohne> baizon: "<kaffeebohne> xubuntu569: anything with intel cpu and intel gpu should be good supported, if it is not the newest hardware."
[10:33] <baizon> kaffeebohne: yes yes, just saying because of this "I'd recommend a laptop of lenovos 'thinkpad' line..."
[10:34] <kaffeebohne> Well, I have a t420 and no problems
[10:34] <kaffeebohne> just because it bricks the newest hardware (i guess an uefi bug) you can't assume that it wouldn't run on fine on older machines
[10:34] <baizon> yes, of course its uefi + windows
[10:35] <kaffeebohne> I have uefi too.
[10:35] <kaffeebohne> No problems.
[10:35] <baizon> well the uefi on my lenovo edge doesnt work. Ubuntu wont boot up
[10:36] <baizon> thats why i dont trust lenovo + uefi + linux
[10:36] <kaffeebohne> I forgot why I tried to avoid *buntu-channels :/
[10:37] <baizon> ?
[13:19] <Darryl_> hi all.  I've just installed Xubuntu for the first time, but I'm having trouble to get "Copy" (a cloud storage service) to sync my files from my desktop, to the cloud.  the provided app is installed correctly, but I get this error from within the app: "Error syncing with cloud: Problem with SSL CA cert (path? access rights?)".  Do I need to setup some form of exception somewhere?  PLease bear in mind, I'm a COMPLETE NOOB to Linux.  
[13:19] <cfhowlett> Darryl_, instructions are on the cloud website
[13:22] <Darryl_> to create an exception?  I looked but I couldn't seem to find what I thought was a solution.  Could you point me to the right place with a link?
[13:22] <Darryl_> please
[13:26] <Darryl_daz> hi, its Darryl here again.  I got logged out.  Are you able to help again with my question regarding "Copy"?
[13:33] <Darryl_daz> could anyone help?  the "copy.com" help documents don't seem to be helpful
[13:35] <cub> hmm Darryl_daz I had no issues with the sync on my pcs. I get two icons every boot though but that's another issue
[20:58] <damiank> guys i saw in the mailing list that maybe you need help testing isos? i have free time on weekend if you want i can test both 32bit / 64 bit on AMDs i have here
[20:59] <knome> damiank, talk to elfy (also can join #xubuntu-devel to do that)
[20:59] <damiank> sorry i'm on devel i posted in the wrong channel :)
[21:36] <peyam> Hi
[21:37] <peyam> Im trying to install plank
[21:37] <peyam> seems not to be possible
[21:37] <peyam> http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-plank-0-5-on-ubuntu-13-10-13-04-12-04-linux-mint-16-15-13and-pear-os-8/
[21:37] <peyam> Im following these
[21:37] <peyam> Unable to find package name
[21:39] <brainwash> peyam: which xubuntu release do you run?
[21:39] <peyam> 13.04
[21:39] <brainwash> not supported anymore, please upgrade to 13.10
[21:40] <peyam> brainwash, waiting for 14.04
[21:40] <brainwash> you might encounter more issues in the meantime
[21:40] <peyam> no. 13.10 was a disaster
[21:40] <brainwash> and you won't receive security updates anymore
[21:41] <peyam> yes. its just 2 months ledft
[21:41] <brainwash> disaster.. anything specific?
[21:41] <peyam> I wana wait
[21:41] <peyam> Main menu editor. sound. Main menu editor is very important to me since im using my directories in there
[21:42] <peyam> I add a menu item to the main menu . I put my directories there. I rightclick on the desktop and go in there instead of anything else. very time efficient
[21:43] <brainwash> did the menu editor stop working?
[21:43] <peyam> Didn't create any items at all. 14.04 will use lxde menu editor
[21:43] <peyam> thats good news
[21:43] <brainwash> 14.04 will ship with a new menu editor called menulibre
[21:43] <peyam> yeah I ment that
[21:43] <brainwash> you can install it on 13.10 too
[21:44] <brainwash> and give some feedback :)
[21:44] <peyam> 14.04 is very close now and I have many files..and programs so i guess i will wait
[21:44] <brainwash> so no security updates and plank for you then :(
[21:45] <peyam> plank?
[21:45] <peyam> it should work  on 13.04 too?
[21:45] <brainwash> it does work, but the daily elementary PPA does not provide packages for 13.04 anymore
[21:46] <peyam> can I do it manuallty?
[21:46] <Unit193> But 13.04 isn't supported, nor is it supported in this channel.  In addition, you can't directly upgrade from 13.04 to 14.04.
[21:46] <peyam> Unit193, I will do a fresh installed
[21:46] <peyam> installation when 14.04 arrives
[21:47] <brainwash> and I suggest that you join #elementary and ask about plank on 13.04
[21:47] <peyam> brainwash, thanks
[23:08] <gian__> holaaa alguien habla español
[23:13] <brainwash> !es | gian__