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valorieronnoc: I've heard checkinstall is deadly dangerous, from a debian devel00:28
ronnocvalorie: hmm i did not know that00:38
valorieme either, but I'm assuming that relying on packages is still the best option00:39
valoriereally, you can file a bug if you find a .deb you simply must have00:40
valorieand if you want it enough, the kubuntu devels will help you package it yourself00:40
ronnoc...or learn to package which i keep meaning to do00:40
valoriethus making it available for everyone00:40
ronnocmmhmm00:41
GovrixHi all!01:13
Govrix;)01:13
roadkillrunning 14.04 Alpha 2. Did an update through Muon Update Manager that broke several major packages and dependencies with issues that cannot be resolved by doing -f or dist-upgrade with apt-get. Pastie: http://pastie.org/8710425 - Any suggestions on how I can get this unbroken?01:28
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valorieyikes, roadkill03:48
valorierunning an alpha isn't really supported here, but maybe ask in the devel channel -- that sounds rather messed up03:49
valoriewhat did the alpha announcement say to do for support?03:49
roadkillvalorie: Haven't been able to find anything support wise online hence why I tried here.05:11
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valorieI suggest the #kubuntu-devel chan or list05:13
valorielist might be best05:13
valorienot many devels online right now05:13
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roadkillvalorie: Thanks. I idle on irc so I can pop in and wait for an answer. No biggie.06:02
valoriecool06:02
roadkillI have a hunch my issues are due to an incomplete set of packages being pushed out.06:02
roadkillThe tricky part is being able to upgrade them all.06:02
valorieoh, for sure06:03
valoriebut it would be good to know why you don't have those packages06:03
roadkillvalorie: I used Muon and things broke. no amount of switches in apt-get or dpkg will fix anything.06:06
valorieright, I read what you said before I responded06:07
valoriebut I don't know what is broken06:08
valorieI upgraded to alpha 1 on one box, but didn't have time to test out alpha 206:08
roadkill....wow. I figured it out.06:13
valorie?06:14
roadkillWell. A buddy in another channel and I were talking about disk space, common issues that bloat. Document files were one example.06:15
roadkillTurns out a lot of packages will fail if even the documents folders are missing.06:15
valorieinteresting06:15
roadkillrecreated /kde/html/en06:15
valorieso you were running out of space?06:15
roadkillunder usr/share/docs06:16
roadkilland everything worked.06:16
roadkillnah. just a miser when it comes to what uses space ;)06:16
valorieha06:16
valorieso you created your own bug, Mr. Crachit06:17
roadkillof all things, though, I wouldn't expect a command running as root being unable to install packages because a directory structure for docs is missing.06:17
valorieyes, you would think there would be a "if no folder exists, create one" line06:18
valoriebut perhaps you took too much away, and it was just lost06:18
roadkillhahahah. wow.06:18
roadkillit broke my ability to install *anything*... because existing packages couldn't be upgraded with unmet dependencies.06:18
roadkillI may have to document this, failing because of three missing nested documents folders while running root seems a bit strange in of itself.06:20
roadkillvalorie: BTW, to give you an idea, screenshot of Muon: http://i.imgur.com/aVSCPNK.png - That was the kind of error I was getting because of three nested directories being missing from /usr/share/docs/ (kde/HTML/en)07:39
valorieroadkill: so muon was right, your config was broken08:45
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roadkillvalorie: the real issue was that directories within docs was missing, so the packages couldn't get installed. the dependency issues and broken config were still the symptom. kind of a chicken/egg situation really.09:03
lordievaderGood morning.09:08
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gregor3000good morning. why do i not have any sound in angry birds hgme in chromium? is it possible to run Angry birds in linux?09:44
gregor3000Kubuntu 12.0409:44
BluesKajHiyas all11:31
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soeeis there some softwere to test camera in laptop ?12:40
monkeyjuicecamorama might help ya12:42
superprowerHi12:45
monkeyjuicelow12:46
superproweris there any russians?12:46
fkm2soee: I use VideoLAN's VLC for that. Just click play and go to the "Capture Device" dialogue and click play there (the correct device should be selected by default).12:50
soeeok thanks12:50
superprowercan you help me? i need to create a link to the app(i don't know how this sounds on english, realy). not a plasmoid(widget, if i just drag app to the desktop it creates a widget)12:51
superprowerlike, windows link, or like link in ubuntu12:52
fkm2superprower: Try this one http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/08/plasma-desktopgL2033.png12:54
fkm2superprower: But in order to put it on your desktop, you'll have to change the desktop from a widget container to a directory. But I don't remember where you can change this - if you still can.12:55
fkm2superprower: Right-click on the desktop, click on the settings (bottom) and then choose from the dropbdown-field: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/08/plasma-desktopJl2033.png12:57
superprowerfkm2: thanks12:58
fkm2You're welcome :-)13:02
superprowerand another one question13:03
superproweri downloaded theme from deviantart, it was zip archive, and he were containing "qtcurve" file, folder with a lot of "color" files, so, how do i install it?13:04
fkm2superprower: I don't know. But does this help? http://kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=4013:13
fkm2There's also a deviantART group for KDE users: http://kde-users.deviantart.com/13:14
mitchell_what is the setting that controls the appearance of emacs in the konqueror terminal13:38
mitchell_konqueror->showterminal->emacs -nw looks awful13:38
mitchell_what do i change?13:38
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douglmorning BlueNeXuS14:03
dougloops14:03
douglmorning BluesKaj14:03
BluesKaj'Morning dougl14:04
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douglBluesKaj, did a apt-get remove for nvidia rebooted confirmed nouveau worked (fonts looked like hell) then did an apt-get install for the nvidia drivers and now everything works and looks good - FYI14:58
dougland that's what's new here besides no blowing snow... how are you?14:59
* dougl is checking out libre office alot these days15:00
ovrflw0xhey kesha15:52
rbergI noticed that Ubuntu doesnt seem to have the mouse warp (cant turn around in games) issue I see in Debian, I dont see any patched to wine that look relevant, does anyone know how this issue was solved in Ubuntu?16:27
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superprowerrberg: i just finished half-life 2, wich was installed from steam. Everything is normal(only low fps, but it my laziness to install good drivers)16:45
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superprowerТут русские есть вообще?16:46
BluesKaj!ru | superprower16:46
ubottusuperprower: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.16:46
superprowerthanks16:47
superprowerbut i need kubuntu support16:47
BluesKajwhat's your gpu, superprower?16:47
superproweri don't know, sorry, is any way to knew this?16:48
BluesKajlspci | grep VGA16:48
BluesKajsuperprower,^16:49
superprowerkonsole answers "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF114 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti] (rev a1)"16:50
superprowerso, anybody know how to make bottom(in default) buttons(i don't know how to name it, when you click it, it open's or minimize window) shorter ._.16:52
superprower?16:52
rbergyeah, wine is working well in Ubuntu, I am trying to understand why its not in Debain sid16:56
superprowerrberg: now wine. Steam launch games in OpenGL. Am i wrong?16:59
superprower*not16:59
superprowerBluesKaj, how do you send meseges to me? Only clicking nicknake opens PM. I use Konversation.17:00
rbergnative steam for sure, I am not sure about steam under wine, I am looking to continue my Skyrim game and cant turn around :(17:02
BluesKajsuperprower, we can discuss this right here in the channel so others can contribute, but I'm not familiar with gaming and steam and wine17:02
superprowerBluesKaj, please, answer, how do you send messeges to me, so it's turn into the red(in my case?)?17:03
superprowerand why you were asking about my gpu?17:05
BluesKajsuperprower, in konverstion >settings, configure konverstaion>highlibt17:06
BluesKajhighlight17:06
BluesKajsuperprower, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current17:06
superprowerand what to do next, in highlight settings?17:07
superprowerand last question17:09
superproweris there any debian-like distro with gnome by default? KDE is not very friendly to me, realy...17:11
BluesKajclick on "always highlight own nick"17:12
superprowerthanks17:13
superprowerso, nvidia-current command works on all debian-like distro's?17:14
superprowerand, can i install gnome in kubuntu?17:15
BluesKajyou can install gnome desktop then choose either kde or gnomr at the login page17:17
BluesKajerr gnome17:17
superprowerand there will be no bugs when KDE and GNOME together?17:18
BluesKajyes nividia-current can be installed with either kde or gnome and it will work on both17:19
superprowerman, i was asking about nvidia-current on other distor, like, debian or mint?17:19
superprowerand gnome and kde was other question. Sorry for my bad english, realy.17:20
BluesKajgnome and kde are compatible, you'll just a duplication of apps that have different names, but do the same thing17:20
BluesKajhave17:20
varauganyone know how i can get the ecryptfs passphrase from a mounted 2nd HDD?17:22
superprowerSo, please, answer about nvidia on debian and i will stop brain-storm17:23
BluesKajsuperprower, not sure about debian , but I know mint uses nvidia-current17:23
BluesKajsi17:23
BluesKajdebian most likely uses nvidia-current as well since the repositories are basically the same17:24
superprowerthanks17:24
superprowerso, thanks everywone17:24
BluesKajok , i have to go now...17:25
faust1002hello17:27
naftilos76Is there a better alternative than the default audio mixer in kubuntu 13.10?17:42
rbergto answer my own question, I needed to install libxi6:i386.. for proper xinput support with multiarch enabled18:13
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PavelHi! Can you help me? I try to install Kubuntu 13.10 from USB. It stop always on "noveau [ VBIOS] [0000:01:00.0] checking PRAMIN for image". This my first try to install Linux.19:13
PavelВозможно, тут есть кто-нибудь русскоговорящий, кто смог бы помочь мне?19:15
PavelCan you hear me?19:18
PavelOh... So sad...19:20
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OssidoHello20:12
* genii slides Ossido a coffee 20:13
OssidoMy laptop developed a problem, about a week ago. I'll describe it in hope that somebody will help me20:13
Ossidothank you, genii20:13
OssidoThe problem is that the recovery from the screensaver has become painfully slow20:14
geniiOssido: Yes, the best thing is just describe to the open channel the specifics of your issue, and hopefully someone may respond. I myself am back and forth from my computer today so not generally here for support, unfortunately20:14
Ossidoif I move the mouse, or press a key, instead of recovering immediately, the screen stays black (my screensaver is a blank screen)20:15
Ossidoand stays black for about 5-10 seconds20:15
Ossidothis happens every time20:15
Ossidoafter that, about half of the times even when I get back my screen, the system remains unresponsive for another 5-10 seconds20:16
Ossidoshowing no mouse cursor20:16
Ossidoand doesn't respond to keyboard actions20:16
OssidoThis is the problem that I can easily describe20:17
Ossidoother than that, it seems to me that is is also generally slower, but this is just a feel20:17
Ossidoit started about one week ago, but I have been very buisy and I am looking into it only now20:17
OssidoI haven't done anything special other than installing the usual updates suggested to me by the system20:18
OssidoI am running 20.0420:18
Ossidono20:18
Ossido12.0420:18
Ossidoany ideas of what might have happened?20:19
Ossidoalso, how do I get to the chronology of the updates that I have installed?20:20
Ossidoso, updates that I have installed in the time-window during which the problem developed are: some nvidia updates, mysql updates, chromium updates and linux header updates20:22
Ossidomysql and chrome should be irrelevant here20:22
rbergyou can look at /var/log/dpkg to see a list of what has been installed/ upgraded and when20:24
Ossidoyes, I got that20:25
Ossidoand, if it has been something that I have installed, it's either the nvidia update (likely) or the linux headers20:25
Ossidohow can I test where the problem is?20:26
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geniiOssido: There is a comprehensive list of all changes to be found for Precise at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/precise-changes/20:30
geniiOssido: If you know the exact previous version number of a package you can downgrade that specific one like: sudo apt-get install packagename=exact-version20:30
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Ossidobut I don't know what package caused the problem, or even if it was caused by one of these updates20:36
Ossidoshould I try to revert the nvidia updates? I am always fearful to touch those20:36
Ossidothe "additional drivers" tool shows me 4 installed nvidia drivers: 304, 311[recommended], 304-updates, 311-updates20:40
Ossidothe one in use is 331-updates20:40
Ossidooops, orry, it was 331 everywhere, not 31120:40
niolinhow can execute X application (such as xclock) as a different user?  I opened xterm, and loggind as a different user using 'su seconduser'.  Now, when I try running xclock, I am getting "Error: Can't open display: :0".  I know there were alot of fixes for this issue when using ssh, but my case is a bit different.20:44
geniiniolin: sudo xhost +    .. su -l username   .. xclock    when done, log out username then: sudo xhost -20:50
juniorhi21:23
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klewdoes anyone have any experience with kUbuntu on super high resolution screens? (13" 2560x1440 or 3200x1800)21:52
klewhow well does kUbuntu cope with "scaling" and stuff?21:53
pietro10Hi. All GTK+ apps except firefox-trunk for some reason are not rendering fonts properly, even though gtk[23]-engines-oxygen is set. How do I fix this? Thanks.21:56
fkmHi there. I don't know, if this question is better suited for #kde, so tell me, if I should ask there. I would like to know, where Dolphin stores the settings for its Samba shares (http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/08/plasma-desktopVr1995.png). I couldn't find the directory ("Public") in smb.conf :-\22:27
valoriefkm, maybe try in ~/.config22:29
valoriemost settings are in ~/.kde22:29
fkmOk. Thank you valorie! I'll check :-)22:30
qdatatake a look at .local/share/user-places.xbel22:31
fkmqdata: Unfortunately user-places only contains an entry relating to Bluetooth. But still, thank you. Another directory to search through :-)22:34
pietro10if not you could ask #kde22:35
qdatait has my shares when I created icons on the left of Dolphin, it has them listed as "desktop bookmarks"22:35
qdatait's the storage for "Places"22:36
geniiThis question was asked not long ago, let me see if i can find the location in my logs22:37
fkmThe problem is, that the shares don't really work. Although the shares are visible they are not accessible (neither anonymous nor with the user credentials) and I don't like fiddling around config files as long as I don't see the entry in question.22:39
fkmThank you genii!22:39
geniifkm: Dolphin should have put them in /var/lib/samba/usershare22:42
genii( according to apachelogger )22:43
fkmgenii: You are my hero! :-D Thank you very much!22:44
geniifkm: You're welcome :)22:44
qdataoh, ok - that makes sense, I was thinking about access from Dolphin to remote shares, not sharing things locally out to others22:45
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fkmqdata: Yeah. Google thought the same thing, when I tried to search for a solution before :-) But with the usershare as a base, I already found a nice post which will probably help me solve the thing :-D22:50
* fkm <- optimist22:50
pietro10Hi. All GTK+ apps except firefox-trunk for some reason are not rendering fonts properly, even though gtk[23]-engines-oxygen is set. How do I fix this? Thanks.22:55
vielsowhat can I do to unmount nfs partition?  My nfs server went down, and now I cannot unmount it.  I tried 'umount -f /mnt/nfs' and 'umount -l -f /mnt/nfs' but both of them hang23:22
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fkmTataaaaaaa :-D https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?63546-Samba-Dolphin-GUI-no-pass23:46
fkmIf ever someone wants to share a directory via Dolphin and cannot access the directory. There's the problem :-)23:46
fkmThanks again to genii, valorie, and qdata!23:47
fkmJust to be on the save side, I'll try it on my netbook as I've done a lot of fiddling around on this machine.23:48
fkmAaah :-) Now I can die in peace ;-D23:56

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