[00:28] <valorie> ronnoc: I've heard checkinstall is deadly dangerous, from a debian devel
[00:38] <ronnoc> valorie: hmm i did not know that
[00:39] <valorie> me either, but I'm assuming that relying on packages is still the best option
[00:40] <valorie> really, you can file a bug if you find a .deb you simply must have
[00:40] <valorie> and if you want it enough, the kubuntu devels will help you package it yourself
[00:40] <ronnoc> ...or learn to package which i keep meaning to do
[00:40] <valorie> thus making it available for everyone
[00:41] <ronnoc> mmhmm
[01:13] <Govrix> Hi all!
[01:13] <Govrix> ;)
[01:28] <roadkill> running 14.04 Alpha 2. Did an update through Muon Update Manager that broke several major packages and dependencies with issues that cannot be resolved by doing -f or dist-upgrade with apt-get. Pastie: http://pastie.org/8710425 - Any suggestions on how I can get this unbroken?
[03:48] <valorie> yikes, roadkill
[03:49] <valorie> running an alpha isn't really supported here, but maybe ask in the devel channel -- that sounds rather messed up
[03:49] <valorie> what did the alpha announcement say to do for support?
[05:11] <roadkill> valorie: Haven't been able to find anything support wise online hence why I tried here.
[05:13] <valorie> I suggest the #kubuntu-devel chan or list
[05:13] <valorie> list might be best
[05:13] <valorie> not many devels online right now
[06:02] <roadkill> valorie: Thanks. I idle on irc so I can pop in and wait for an answer. No biggie.
[06:02] <valorie> cool
[06:02] <roadkill> I have a hunch my issues are due to an incomplete set of packages being pushed out.
[06:02] <roadkill> The tricky part is being able to upgrade them all.
[06:03] <valorie> oh, for sure
[06:03] <valorie> but it would be good to know why you don't have those packages
[06:06] <roadkill> valorie: I used Muon and things broke. no amount of switches in apt-get or dpkg will fix anything.
[06:07] <valorie> right, I read what you said before I responded
[06:08] <valorie> but I don't know what is broken
[06:08] <valorie> I upgraded to alpha 1 on one box, but didn't have time to test out alpha 2
[06:13] <roadkill> ....wow. I figured it out.
[06:14] <valorie> ?
[06:15] <roadkill> Well. A buddy in another channel and I were talking about disk space, common issues that bloat. Document files were one example.
[06:15] <roadkill> Turns out a lot of packages will fail if even the documents folders are missing.
[06:15] <valorie> interesting
[06:15] <roadkill> recreated /kde/html/en
[06:15] <valorie> so you were running out of space?
[06:16] <roadkill> under usr/share/docs
[06:16] <roadkill> and everything worked.
[06:16] <roadkill> nah. just a miser when it comes to what uses space ;)
[06:16] <valorie> ha
[06:17] <valorie> so you created your own bug, Mr. Crachit
[06:17] <roadkill> of all things, though, I wouldn't expect a command running as root being unable to install packages because a directory structure for docs is missing.
[06:18] <valorie> yes, you would think there would be a "if no folder exists, create one" line
[06:18] <valorie> but perhaps you took too much away, and it was just lost
[06:18] <roadkill> hahahah. wow.
[06:18] <roadkill> it broke my ability to install *anything*... because existing packages couldn't be upgraded with unmet dependencies.
[06:20] <roadkill> I may have to document this, failing because of three missing nested documents folders while running root seems a bit strange in of itself.
[07:39] <roadkill> valorie: BTW, to give you an idea, screenshot of Muon: http://i.imgur.com/aVSCPNK.png - That was the kind of error I was getting because of three nested directories being missing from /usr/share/docs/ (kde/HTML/en)
[08:45] <valorie> roadkill: so muon was right, your config was broken
[09:03] <roadkill> valorie: the real issue was that directories within docs was missing, so the packages couldn't get installed. the dependency issues and broken config were still the symptom. kind of a chicken/egg situation really.
[09:08] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:44] <gregor3000> good morning. why do i not have any sound in angry birds hgme in chromium? is it possible to run Angry birds in linux?
[09:44] <gregor3000> Kubuntu 12.04
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:40] <soee> is there some softwere to test camera in laptop ?
[12:42] <monkeyjuice> camorama might help ya
[12:45] <superprower> Hi
[12:46] <monkeyjuice> low
[12:46] <superprower> is there any russians?
[12:50] <fkm2> soee: I use VideoLAN's VLC for that. Just click play and go to the "Capture Device" dialogue and click play there (the correct device should be selected by default).
[12:50] <soee> ok thanks
[12:51] <superprower> can you help me? i need to create a link to the app(i don't know how this sounds on english, realy). not a plasmoid(widget, if i just drag app to the desktop it creates a widget)
[12:52] <superprower> like, windows link, or like link in ubuntu
[12:54] <fkm2> superprower: Try this one http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/08/plasma-desktopgL2033.png
[12:55] <fkm2> superprower: But in order to put it on your desktop, you'll have to change the desktop from a widget container to a directory. But I don't remember where you can change this - if you still can.
[12:57] <fkm2> superprower: Right-click on the desktop, click on the settings (bottom) and then choose from the dropbdown-field: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/08/plasma-desktopJl2033.png
[12:58] <superprower> fkm2: thanks
[13:02] <fkm2> You're welcome :-)
[13:03] <superprower> and another one question
[13:04] <superprower> i downloaded theme from deviantart, it was zip archive, and he were containing "qtcurve" file, folder with a lot of "color" files, so, how do i install it?
[13:13] <fkm2> superprower: I don't know. But does this help? http://kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=40
[13:14] <fkm2> There's also a deviantART group for KDE users: http://kde-users.deviantart.com/
[13:38] <mitchell_> what is the setting that controls the appearance of emacs in the konqueror terminal
[13:38] <mitchell_> konqueror->showterminal->emacs -nw looks awful
[13:38] <mitchell_> what do i change?
[14:03] <dougl> morning BlueNeXuS
[14:03] <dougl> oops
[14:03] <dougl> morning BluesKaj
[14:04] <BluesKaj> 'Morning dougl
[14:58] <dougl> BluesKaj, did a apt-get remove for nvidia rebooted confirmed nouveau worked (fonts looked like hell) then did an apt-get install for the nvidia drivers and now everything works and looks good - FYI
[14:59] <dougl> and that's what's new here besides no blowing snow... how are you?
[15:00]  * dougl is checking out libre office alot these days
[15:52] <ovrflw0x> hey kesha
[16:27] <rberg> I noticed that Ubuntu doesnt seem to have the mouse warp (cant turn around in games) issue I see in Debian, I dont see any patched to wine that look relevant, does anyone know how this issue was solved in Ubuntu?
[16:45] <superprower> rberg: i just finished half-life 2, wich was installed from steam. Everything is normal(only low fps, but it my laziness to install good drivers)
[16:46] <superprower> Тут русские есть вообще?
[16:46] <BluesKaj> !ru | superprower
[16:47] <superprower> thanks
[16:47] <superprower> but i need kubuntu support
[16:47] <BluesKaj> what's your gpu, superprower?
[16:48] <superprower> i don't know, sorry, is any way to knew this?
[16:48] <BluesKaj> lspci | grep VGA
[16:49] <BluesKaj> superprower,^
[16:50] <superprower> konsole answers "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF114 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti] (rev a1)"
[16:52] <superprower> so, anybody know how to make bottom(in default) buttons(i don't know how to name it, when you click it, it open's or minimize window) shorter ._.
[16:52] <superprower> ?
[16:56] <rberg> yeah, wine is working well in Ubuntu, I am trying to understand why its not in Debain sid
[16:59] <superprower> rberg: now wine. Steam launch games in OpenGL. Am i wrong?
[16:59] <superprower> *not
[17:00] <superprower> BluesKaj, how do you send meseges to me? Only clicking nicknake opens PM. I use Konversation.
[17:02] <rberg> native steam for sure, I am not sure about steam under wine, I am looking to continue my Skyrim game and cant turn around :(
[17:02] <BluesKaj> superprower, we can discuss this right here in the channel so others can contribute, but I'm not familiar with gaming and steam and wine
[17:03] <superprower> BluesKaj, please, answer, how do you send messeges to me, so it's turn into the red(in my case?)?
[17:05] <superprower> and why you were asking about my gpu?
[17:06] <BluesKaj> superprower, in konverstion >settings, configure konverstaion>highlibt
[17:06] <BluesKaj> highlight
[17:06] <BluesKaj> superprower, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:07] <superprower> and what to do next, in highlight settings?
[17:09] <superprower> and last question
[17:11] <superprower> is there any debian-like distro with gnome by default? KDE is not very friendly to me, realy...
[17:12] <BluesKaj> click on "always highlight own nick"
[17:13] <superprower> thanks
[17:14] <superprower> so, nvidia-current command works on all debian-like distro's?
[17:15] <superprower> and, can i install gnome in kubuntu?
[17:17] <BluesKaj> you can install gnome desktop then choose either kde or gnomr at the login page
[17:17] <BluesKaj> err gnome
[17:18] <superprower> and there will be no bugs when KDE and GNOME together?
[17:19] <BluesKaj> yes nividia-current can be installed with either kde or gnome and it will work on both
[17:19] <superprower> man, i was asking about nvidia-current on other distor, like, debian or mint?
[17:20] <superprower> and gnome and kde was other question. Sorry for my bad english, realy.
[17:20] <BluesKaj> gnome and kde are compatible, you'll just a duplication of apps that have different names, but do the same thing
[17:20] <BluesKaj> have
[17:22] <varaug> anyone know how i can get the ecryptfs passphrase from a mounted 2nd HDD?
[17:23] <superprower> So, please, answer about nvidia on debian and i will stop brain-storm
[17:23] <BluesKaj> superprower, not sure about debian , but I know mint uses nvidia-current
[17:23] <BluesKaj> si
[17:24] <BluesKaj> debian most likely uses nvidia-current as well since the repositories are basically the same
[17:24] <superprower> thanks
[17:24] <superprower> so, thanks everywone
[17:25] <BluesKaj> ok , i have to go now...
[17:27] <faust1002> hello
[17:42] <naftilos76> Is there a better alternative than the default audio mixer in kubuntu 13.10?
[18:13] <rberg> to answer my own question, I needed to install libxi6:i386.. for proper xinput support with multiarch enabled
[19:13] <Pavel> Hi! Can you help me? I try to install Kubuntu 13.10 from USB. It stop always on "noveau [ VBIOS] [0000:01:00.0] checking PRAMIN for image". This my first try to install Linux.
[19:15] <Pavel> Возможно, тут есть кто-нибудь русскоговорящий, кто смог бы помочь мне?
[19:18] <Pavel> Can you hear me?
[19:20] <Pavel> Oh... So sad...
[20:12] <Ossido> Hello
[20:13]  * genii slides Ossido a coffee 
[20:13] <Ossido> My laptop developed a problem, about a week ago. I'll describe it in hope that somebody will help me
[20:13] <Ossido> thank you, genii
[20:14] <Ossido> The problem is that the recovery from the screensaver has become painfully slow
[20:14] <genii> Ossido: Yes, the best thing is just describe to the open channel the specifics of your issue, and hopefully someone may respond. I myself am back and forth from my computer today so not generally here for support, unfortunately
[20:15] <Ossido> if I move the mouse, or press a key, instead of recovering immediately, the screen stays black (my screensaver is a blank screen)
[20:15] <Ossido> and stays black for about 5-10 seconds
[20:15] <Ossido> this happens every time
[20:16] <Ossido> after that, about half of the times even when I get back my screen, the system remains unresponsive for another 5-10 seconds
[20:16] <Ossido> showing no mouse cursor
[20:16] <Ossido> and doesn't respond to keyboard actions
[20:17] <Ossido> This is the problem that I can easily describe
[20:17] <Ossido> other than that, it seems to me that is is also generally slower, but this is just a feel
[20:17] <Ossido> it started about one week ago, but I have been very buisy and I am looking into it only now
[20:18] <Ossido> I haven't done anything special other than installing the usual updates suggested to me by the system
[20:18] <Ossido> I am running 20.04
[20:18] <Ossido> no
[20:18] <Ossido> 12.04
[20:19] <Ossido> any ideas of what might have happened?
[20:20] <Ossido> also, how do I get to the chronology of the updates that I have installed?
[20:22] <Ossido> so, updates that I have installed in the time-window during which the problem developed are: some nvidia updates, mysql updates, chromium updates and linux header updates
[20:22] <Ossido> mysql and chrome should be irrelevant here
[20:24] <rberg> you can look at /var/log/dpkg to see a list of what has been installed/ upgraded and when
[20:25] <Ossido> yes, I got that
[20:25] <Ossido> and, if it has been something that I have installed, it's either the nvidia update (likely) or the linux headers
[20:26] <Ossido> how can I test where the problem is?
[20:30] <genii> Ossido: There is a comprehensive list of all changes to be found for Precise at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/precise-changes/
[20:30] <genii> Ossido: If you know the exact previous version number of a package you can downgrade that specific one like: sudo apt-get install packagename=exact-version
[20:36] <Ossido> but I don't know what package caused the problem, or even if it was caused by one of these updates
[20:36] <Ossido> should I try to revert the nvidia updates? I am always fearful to touch those
[20:40] <Ossido> the "additional drivers" tool shows me 4 installed nvidia drivers: 304, 311[recommended], 304-updates, 311-updates
[20:40] <Ossido> the one in use is 331-updates
[20:40] <Ossido> oops, orry, it was 331 everywhere, not 311
[20:44] <niolin> how can execute X application (such as xclock) as a different user?  I opened xterm, and loggind as a different user using 'su seconduser'.  Now, when I try running xclock, I am getting "Error: Can't open display: :0".  I know there were alot of fixes for this issue when using ssh, but my case is a bit different.
[20:50] <genii> niolin: sudo xhost +    .. su -l username   .. xclock    when done, log out username then: sudo xhost -
[21:23] <junior> hi
[21:52] <klew> does anyone have any experience with kUbuntu on super high resolution screens? (13" 2560x1440 or 3200x1800)
[21:53] <klew> how well does kUbuntu cope with "scaling" and stuff?
[21:56] <pietro10> Hi. All GTK+ apps except firefox-trunk for some reason are not rendering fonts properly, even though gtk[23]-engines-oxygen is set. How do I fix this? Thanks.
[22:27] <fkm> Hi there. I don't know, if this question is better suited for #kde, so tell me, if I should ask there. I would like to know, where Dolphin stores the settings for its Samba shares (http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/08/plasma-desktopVr1995.png). I couldn't find the directory ("Public") in smb.conf :-\
[22:29] <valorie> fkm, maybe try in ~/.config
[22:29] <valorie> most settings are in ~/.kde
[22:30] <fkm> Ok. Thank you valorie! I'll check :-)
[22:31] <qdata> take a look at .local/share/user-places.xbel
[22:34] <fkm> qdata: Unfortunately user-places only contains an entry relating to Bluetooth. But still, thank you. Another directory to search through :-)
[22:35] <pietro10> if not you could ask #kde
[22:35] <qdata> it has my shares when I created icons on the left of Dolphin, it has them listed as "desktop bookmarks"
[22:36] <qdata> it's the storage for "Places"
[22:37] <genii> This question was asked not long ago, let me see if i can find the location in my logs
[22:39] <fkm> The problem is, that the shares don't really work. Although the shares are visible they are not accessible (neither anonymous nor with the user credentials) and I don't like fiddling around config files as long as I don't see the entry in question.
[22:39] <fkm> Thank you genii!
[22:42] <genii> fkm: Dolphin should have put them in /var/lib/samba/usershare
[22:43] <genii> ( according to apachelogger )
[22:44] <fkm> genii: You are my hero! :-D Thank you very much!
[22:44] <genii> fkm: You're welcome :)
[22:45] <qdata> oh, ok - that makes sense, I was thinking about access from Dolphin to remote shares, not sharing things locally out to others
[22:50] <fkm> qdata: Yeah. Google thought the same thing, when I tried to search for a solution before :-) But with the usershare as a base, I already found a nice post which will probably help me solve the thing :-D
[22:50]  * fkm <- optimist
[22:55] <pietro10> Hi. All GTK+ apps except firefox-trunk for some reason are not rendering fonts properly, even though gtk[23]-engines-oxygen is set. How do I fix this? Thanks.
[23:22] <vielso> what can I do to unmount nfs partition?  My nfs server went down, and now I cannot unmount it.  I tried 'umount -f /mnt/nfs' and 'umount -l -f /mnt/nfs' but both of them hang
[23:46] <fkm> Tataaaaaaa :-D https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?63546-Samba-Dolphin-GUI-no-pass
[23:46] <fkm> If ever someone wants to share a directory via Dolphin and cannot access the directory. There's the problem :-)
[23:47] <fkm> Thanks again to genii, valorie, and qdata!
[23:48] <fkm> Just to be on the save side, I'll try it on my netbook as I've done a lot of fiddling around on this machine.
[23:56] <fkm> Aaah :-) Now I can die in peace ;-D