[00:28] ronnoc: I've heard checkinstall is deadly dangerous, from a debian devel [00:38] valorie: hmm i did not know that [00:39] me either, but I'm assuming that relying on packages is still the best option [00:40] really, you can file a bug if you find a .deb you simply must have [00:40] and if you want it enough, the kubuntu devels will help you package it yourself [00:40] ...or learn to package which i keep meaning to do [00:40] thus making it available for everyone [00:41] mmhmm [01:13] Hi all! [01:13] ;) [01:28] running 14.04 Alpha 2. Did an update through Muon Update Manager that broke several major packages and dependencies with issues that cannot be resolved by doing -f or dist-upgrade with apt-get. Pastie: http://pastie.org/8710425 - Any suggestions on how I can get this unbroken? === david is now known as Guest18352 === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying === Guest18352 is now known as TheKleine85 [03:48] yikes, roadkill [03:49] running an alpha isn't really supported here, but maybe ask in the devel channel -- that sounds rather messed up [03:49] what did the alpha announcement say to do for support? [05:11] valorie: Haven't been able to find anything support wise online hence why I tried here. === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away [05:13] I suggest the #kubuntu-devel chan or list [05:13] list might be best [05:13] not many devels online right now === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying [06:02] valorie: Thanks. I idle on irc so I can pop in and wait for an answer. No biggie. [06:02] cool [06:02] I have a hunch my issues are due to an incomplete set of packages being pushed out. [06:02] The tricky part is being able to upgrade them all. [06:03] oh, for sure [06:03] but it would be good to know why you don't have those packages [06:06] valorie: I used Muon and things broke. no amount of switches in apt-get or dpkg will fix anything. [06:07] right, I read what you said before I responded [06:08] but I don't know what is broken [06:08] I upgraded to alpha 1 on one box, but didn't have time to test out alpha 2 [06:13] ....wow. I figured it out. [06:14] ? [06:15] Well. A buddy in another channel and I were talking about disk space, common issues that bloat. Document files were one example. [06:15] Turns out a lot of packages will fail if even the documents folders are missing. [06:15] interesting [06:15] recreated /kde/html/en [06:15] so you were running out of space? [06:16] under usr/share/docs [06:16] and everything worked. [06:16] nah. just a miser when it comes to what uses space ;) [06:16] ha [06:17] so you created your own bug, Mr. Crachit [06:17] of all things, though, I wouldn't expect a command running as root being unable to install packages because a directory structure for docs is missing. [06:18] yes, you would think there would be a "if no folder exists, create one" line [06:18] but perhaps you took too much away, and it was just lost [06:18] hahahah. wow. [06:18] it broke my ability to install *anything*... because existing packages couldn't be upgraded with unmet dependencies. [06:20] I may have to document this, failing because of three missing nested documents folders while running root seems a bit strange in of itself. [07:39] valorie: BTW, to give you an idea, screenshot of Muon: http://i.imgur.com/aVSCPNK.png - That was the kind of error I was getting because of three nested directories being missing from /usr/share/docs/ (kde/HTML/en) [08:45] roadkill: so muon was right, your config was broken === thelionroars is now known as thelionsleeps === david is now known as Guest31671 [09:03] valorie: the real issue was that directories within docs was missing, so the packages couldn't get installed. the dependency issues and broken config were still the symptom. kind of a chicken/egg situation really. [09:08] Good morning. === thelionsleeps is now known as thelionroars === tatie is now known as gregor3000 [09:44] good morning. why do i not have any sound in angry birds hgme in chromium? is it possible to run Angry birds in linux? [09:44] Kubuntu 12.04 [11:31] Hiyas all === max is now known as Guest99243 === soee__ is now known as soee [12:40] is there some softwere to test camera in laptop ? [12:42] camorama might help ya [12:45] Hi [12:46] low [12:46] is there any russians? [12:50] soee: I use VideoLAN's VLC for that. Just click play and go to the "Capture Device" dialogue and click play there (the correct device should be selected by default). [12:50] ok thanks [12:51] can you help me? i need to create a link to the app(i don't know how this sounds on english, realy). not a plasmoid(widget, if i just drag app to the desktop it creates a widget) [12:52] like, windows link, or like link in ubuntu [12:54] superprower: Try this one http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/08/plasma-desktopgL2033.png [12:55] superprower: But in order to put it on your desktop, you'll have to change the desktop from a widget container to a directory. But I don't remember where you can change this - if you still can. [12:57] superprower: Right-click on the desktop, click on the settings (bottom) and then choose from the dropbdown-field: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/08/plasma-desktopJl2033.png [12:58] fkm2: thanks [13:02] You're welcome :-) [13:03] and another one question [13:04] i downloaded theme from deviantart, it was zip archive, and he were containing "qtcurve" file, folder with a lot of "color" files, so, how do i install it? [13:13] superprower: I don't know. But does this help? http://kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=40 [13:14] There's also a deviantART group for KDE users: http://kde-users.deviantart.com/ [13:38] what is the setting that controls the appearance of emacs in the konqueror terminal [13:38] konqueror->showterminal->emacs -nw looks awful [13:38] what do i change? === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying === spacetime is now known as spacetime_ === spacetime_ is now known as spacetime [14:03] morning BlueNeXuS [14:03] oops [14:03] morning BluesKaj [14:04] 'Morning dougl === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [14:58] BluesKaj, did a apt-get remove for nvidia rebooted confirmed nouveau worked (fonts looked like hell) then did an apt-get install for the nvidia drivers and now everything works and looks good - FYI [14:59] and that's what's new here besides no blowing snow... how are you? [15:00] * dougl is checking out libre office alot these days [15:52] hey kesha [16:27] I noticed that Ubuntu doesnt seem to have the mouse warp (cant turn around in games) issue I see in Debian, I dont see any patched to wine that look relevant, does anyone know how this issue was solved in Ubuntu? === darkstar is now known as Guest28319 === Guest28319 is now known as darkstar_ [16:45] rberg: i just finished half-life 2, wich was installed from steam. Everything is normal(only low fps, but it my laziness to install good drivers) === adrian is now known as Guest97963 [16:46] Тут русские есть вообще? [16:46] !ru | superprower [16:46] superprower: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [16:47] thanks [16:47] but i need kubuntu support [16:47] what's your gpu, superprower? [16:48] i don't know, sorry, is any way to knew this? [16:48] lspci | grep VGA [16:49] superprower,^ [16:50] konsole answers "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF114 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti] (rev a1)" [16:52] so, anybody know how to make bottom(in default) buttons(i don't know how to name it, when you click it, it open's or minimize window) shorter ._. [16:52] ? [16:56] yeah, wine is working well in Ubuntu, I am trying to understand why its not in Debain sid [16:59] rberg: now wine. Steam launch games in OpenGL. Am i wrong? [16:59] *not [17:00] BluesKaj, how do you send meseges to me? Only clicking nicknake opens PM. I use Konversation. [17:02] native steam for sure, I am not sure about steam under wine, I am looking to continue my Skyrim game and cant turn around :( [17:02] superprower, we can discuss this right here in the channel so others can contribute, but I'm not familiar with gaming and steam and wine [17:03] BluesKaj, please, answer, how do you send messeges to me, so it's turn into the red(in my case?)? [17:05] and why you were asking about my gpu? [17:06] superprower, in konverstion >settings, configure konverstaion>highlibt [17:06] highlight [17:06] superprower, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current [17:07] and what to do next, in highlight settings? [17:09] and last question [17:11] is there any debian-like distro with gnome by default? KDE is not very friendly to me, realy... [17:12] click on "always highlight own nick" [17:13] thanks [17:14] so, nvidia-current command works on all debian-like distro's? [17:15] and, can i install gnome in kubuntu? [17:17] you can install gnome desktop then choose either kde or gnomr at the login page [17:17] err gnome [17:18] and there will be no bugs when KDE and GNOME together? [17:19] yes nividia-current can be installed with either kde or gnome and it will work on both [17:19] man, i was asking about nvidia-current on other distor, like, debian or mint? [17:20] and gnome and kde was other question. Sorry for my bad english, realy. [17:20] gnome and kde are compatible, you'll just a duplication of apps that have different names, but do the same thing [17:20] have [17:22] anyone know how i can get the ecryptfs passphrase from a mounted 2nd HDD? [17:23] So, please, answer about nvidia on debian and i will stop brain-storm [17:23] superprower, not sure about debian , but I know mint uses nvidia-current [17:23] si [17:24] debian most likely uses nvidia-current as well since the repositories are basically the same [17:24] thanks [17:24] so, thanks everywone [17:25] ok , i have to go now... [17:27] hello [17:42] Is there a better alternative than the default audio mixer in kubuntu 13.10? [18:13] to answer my own question, I needed to install libxi6:i386.. for proper xinput support with multiarch enabled === MrBean is now known as noone123 [19:13] Hi! Can you help me? I try to install Kubuntu 13.10 from USB. It stop always on "noveau [ VBIOS] [0000:01:00.0] checking PRAMIN for image". This my first try to install Linux. [19:15] Возможно, тут есть кто-нибудь русскоговорящий, кто смог бы помочь мне? [19:18] Can you hear me? [19:20] Oh... So sad... === TheLordOfTime is now known as teward [20:12] Hello [20:13] * genii slides Ossido a coffee [20:13] My laptop developed a problem, about a week ago. I'll describe it in hope that somebody will help me [20:13] thank you, genii [20:14] The problem is that the recovery from the screensaver has become painfully slow [20:14] Ossido: Yes, the best thing is just describe to the open channel the specifics of your issue, and hopefully someone may respond. I myself am back and forth from my computer today so not generally here for support, unfortunately [20:15] if I move the mouse, or press a key, instead of recovering immediately, the screen stays black (my screensaver is a blank screen) [20:15] and stays black for about 5-10 seconds [20:15] this happens every time [20:16] after that, about half of the times even when I get back my screen, the system remains unresponsive for another 5-10 seconds [20:16] showing no mouse cursor [20:16] and doesn't respond to keyboard actions [20:17] This is the problem that I can easily describe [20:17] other than that, it seems to me that is is also generally slower, but this is just a feel [20:17] it started about one week ago, but I have been very buisy and I am looking into it only now [20:18] I haven't done anything special other than installing the usual updates suggested to me by the system [20:18] I am running 20.04 [20:18] no [20:18] 12.04 [20:19] any ideas of what might have happened? [20:20] also, how do I get to the chronology of the updates that I have installed? [20:22] so, updates that I have installed in the time-window during which the problem developed are: some nvidia updates, mysql updates, chromium updates and linux header updates [20:22] mysql and chrome should be irrelevant here [20:24] you can look at /var/log/dpkg to see a list of what has been installed/ upgraded and when [20:25] yes, I got that [20:25] and, if it has been something that I have installed, it's either the nvidia update (likely) or the linux headers [20:26] how can I test where the problem is? === blaxx is now known as bones__ === bones__ is now known as blackworm [20:30] Ossido: There is a comprehensive list of all changes to be found for Precise at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/precise-changes/ [20:30] Ossido: If you know the exact previous version number of a package you can downgrade that specific one like: sudo apt-get install packagename=exact-version === blackworm is now known as wormbones === wormbones is now known as worm_bones === worm_bones is now known as blackhatdacx === blackhatdacx is now known as worm_bones [20:36] but I don't know what package caused the problem, or even if it was caused by one of these updates [20:36] should I try to revert the nvidia updates? I am always fearful to touch those [20:40] the "additional drivers" tool shows me 4 installed nvidia drivers: 304, 311[recommended], 304-updates, 311-updates [20:40] the one in use is 331-updates [20:40] oops, orry, it was 331 everywhere, not 311 [20:44] how can execute X application (such as xclock) as a different user? I opened xterm, and loggind as a different user using 'su seconduser'. Now, when I try running xclock, I am getting "Error: Can't open display: :0". I know there were alot of fixes for this issue when using ssh, but my case is a bit different. [20:50] niolin: sudo xhost + .. su -l username .. xclock when done, log out username then: sudo xhost - [21:23] hi === junior is now known as junior__ === junior__ is now known as junior_ === blackhatdacx is now known as bones-afk === bones-afk is now known as blackhatdacx [21:52] does anyone have any experience with kUbuntu on super high resolution screens? (13" 2560x1440 or 3200x1800) [21:53] how well does kUbuntu cope with "scaling" and stuff? [21:56] Hi. All GTK+ apps except firefox-trunk for some reason are not rendering fonts properly, even though gtk[23]-engines-oxygen is set. How do I fix this? Thanks. [22:27] Hi there. I don't know, if this question is better suited for #kde, so tell me, if I should ask there. I would like to know, where Dolphin stores the settings for its Samba shares (http://wstaw.org/m/2014/02/08/plasma-desktopVr1995.png). I couldn't find the directory ("Public") in smb.conf :-\ [22:29] fkm, maybe try in ~/.config [22:29] most settings are in ~/.kde [22:30] Ok. Thank you valorie! I'll check :-) [22:31] take a look at .local/share/user-places.xbel [22:34] qdata: Unfortunately user-places only contains an entry relating to Bluetooth. But still, thank you. Another directory to search through :-) [22:35] if not you could ask #kde [22:35] it has my shares when I created icons on the left of Dolphin, it has them listed as "desktop bookmarks" [22:36] it's the storage for "Places" [22:37] This question was asked not long ago, let me see if i can find the location in my logs [22:39] The problem is, that the shares don't really work. Although the shares are visible they are not accessible (neither anonymous nor with the user credentials) and I don't like fiddling around config files as long as I don't see the entry in question. [22:39] Thank you genii! [22:42] fkm: Dolphin should have put them in /var/lib/samba/usershare [22:43] ( according to apachelogger ) [22:44] genii: You are my hero! :-D Thank you very much! [22:44] fkm: You're welcome :) [22:45] oh, ok - that makes sense, I was thinking about access from Dolphin to remote shares, not sharing things locally out to others === Vito_ is now known as Vito [22:50] qdata: Yeah. Google thought the same thing, when I tried to search for a solution before :-) But with the usershare as a base, I already found a nice post which will probably help me solve the thing :-D [22:50] * fkm <- optimist [22:55] Hi. All GTK+ apps except firefox-trunk for some reason are not rendering fonts properly, even though gtk[23]-engines-oxygen is set. How do I fix this? Thanks. [23:22] what can I do to unmount nfs partition? My nfs server went down, and now I cannot unmount it. I tried 'umount -f /mnt/nfs' and 'umount -l -f /mnt/nfs' but both of them hang === LjL is now known as LjL-BetaMale [23:46] Tataaaaaaa :-D https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?63546-Samba-Dolphin-GUI-no-pass [23:46] If ever someone wants to share a directory via Dolphin and cannot access the directory. There's the problem :-) [23:47] Thanks again to genii, valorie, and qdata! [23:48] Just to be on the save side, I'll try it on my netbook as I've done a lot of fiddling around on this machine. [23:56] Aaah :-) Now I can die in peace ;-D