[06:19] <Kilos> morning charl theblazehen and others
[06:34] <theblazehen> hey Kilos 
[06:43] <theblazehen> Windows server taking forever to download...
[06:48] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:48] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[06:48] <Kilos> haha you missed the spit
[06:49] <inetpro> eish! 
[06:49] <Kilos> haha
[06:50] <inetpro> why you doing that to me? 
[06:50] <Kilos> you supposed to point me in the right direction always man
[06:51] <Kilos> whole prob with the graphics card is that my settings in /home arent set for 1024x768
[06:51] <Kilos> until correct driver is installed pc keeps booting to cli
[06:52] <Kilos> now all the drives see the 64bit card
[06:52]  * Kilos sure you okes enjoy seeing me struggle
[06:53]  * Kilos waits for this is not an official help channel
[06:54] <theblazehen> hey inetpro 
[06:55] <Kilos> but nvidia-current works so no need for the additional thing
[06:56] <Kilos> maybe we need to add to the agenda the suggestion to make this an official help channel
[06:57] <Kilos> too many good brains rest here
[07:00] <inetpro> sorry, was afk last night 
[07:00] <Kilos> np
[07:00] <inetpro> will be with you in a few minutes 
[07:25] <inetpro> ai! 
[07:26] <inetpro> we can only help based on the inputs we get 
[07:27] <inetpro> please note, it is not a 64bit card 
[07:27] <inetpro> Maaz_: assumption 
[07:27] <Maaz_> An assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, as if it were true based upon presupposition without preponderance of the facts
[07:28] <inetpro> Kilos: don't make assumptions 
[07:30] <inetpro> many times problems can be caused by old settings in the home profile 
[07:30] <inetpro> always a good idea to test with a new blank profile if you have problems 
[07:31] <inetpro> but I also forgot to mention that 
[07:31] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry oom
[07:33] <inetpro> also, if peeps don't help quick enough here, don't be afraid to go to #ubuntu for specific problems 
[07:33] <not_found> morning all
[07:34] <inetpro> just make sure you come back to share your solution with us in the end 
[07:34] <inetpro> Hi not_found
[07:35]  * inetpro got his self a new Galaxy Note 3 last night 
[07:35] <not_found> hiya inetpro, all well?
[07:35] <not_found> AWESOME!
[07:35] <inetpro> awesome phone 
[07:35] <not_found> congrats!
[07:35] <inetpro> ty
[07:36]  * inetpro wbbl
[07:37] <Golynx> hey Kilos
[07:38] <Golynx> 0.25 - 0.7 MHz is the minimum frequency ranges of your sig-gen
[07:58] <Kilos> hi not_found Golynx ty inetpro 
[07:58] <Kilos> was afk
[07:58] <Kilos> Golynx, how do you know that?
[07:59] <Kilos> where did you get that info
[08:00] <Golynx> i saw it in the specifications link of the sig-gen you sent via pm
[08:00] <Kilos> aha ty
[08:00] <Kilos> i missed that, thought it could start fro nothing
[08:01] <Golynx> there's not much use for frequencies lower than 100khz these days or even in 1970
[08:02] <Golynx> unless if you wana chase away the bugs ofcourse
[08:04] <not_found> o/
[08:05] <Golynx> its easier to build your own bug repeller though, just make sure to cover your ears :)
[08:05] <Golynx> Hi not_found
[08:05] <Kilos> lol
[08:05] <Kilos> now i need the diagram and component list from you 
[08:06] <Golynx> didnt you save those 2 links i gave you
[08:06] <Kilos> i have done a reinstall 3 times
[08:07] <Kilos> so dunno anymore
[08:07] <Kilos> nm not serious right now
[08:07] <Kilos> im not browsing much till monday when i get airtime
[08:08] <Golynx> hmm ok
[08:08] <Golynx> i cant browse either lol
[08:10] <Golynx> but its pretty simple circuits to make a basic frequency oscillator
[08:13] <Kilos> maybe i must put the sig-gen on olx
[08:13] <Kilos> if it cant kill noonoos its of no use to me anymore
[08:16] <Golynx> ya thats a good idea
[12:58] <charl> good morning
[12:58] <charl> good afternoon, i mean
[12:58] <Kilos> hi charl 
[12:58] <charl> hi Kilos :)
[12:59] <charl> Maaz_: coffee on
[12:59]  * Maaz_ washes some mugs
[12:59] <charl> dirty mugs again... Maaz_ you don't do your job
[13:00] <charl> Kilos: how's it going
[13:00] <charl> i've been busy this week, haven't been on irc much
[13:00] <Kilos> great ty and you?
[13:00] <charl> i'm good thanks
[13:00] <charl> i think i had a light cold or something
[13:00] <charl> but it seems to be over now
[13:00] <charl> one of those colds that you don't know if you actually are sick or not...
[13:00] <Kilos> good
[13:03] <charl> oh my goodness, this is hilarious http://static.rubbingalcoholic.com/images/blog/troll_the_nsa.png
[13:03] <charl> national security agency - not secret anymore with the troll face
[13:03] <Maaz_> Coffee's ready for charl!
[13:22] <charl> Maaz_: thanks
[13:22] <Maaz_> charl: Okay :-)
[13:40] <Xethron> Kilos: jup
[13:41] <Kilos> ohi Xethron 
[14:26] <charl> Maaz_: seen cantide
[14:26] <Maaz_> charl: cantide was last seen 10 days, 8 hours, 44 minutes and 53 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-01-29 07:41:28 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-01-29 07:41:36 SAST
[14:26] <charl> he comes online early hours now from korea
[14:27] <Kilos> ah
[15:09]  * Kilos needs to rest. may be back later
[18:02] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:54] <charl> quite here today
[19:07] <not_found> quiet even
[19:08] <Kilos> hi captine 
[19:09] <captine> hi Kilos 
[19:18] <charl> hi captine 
[19:18] <charl> quiet bah
[19:18] <charl> quit, quite, quiet.....
[19:18] <charl> i don't get it
[19:18] <charl> this island language
[19:19] <Kilos> what are you on about charl 
[19:20] <charl> this spelling
[19:20] <Kilos> simple man
[19:20] <Kilos> sound the words out
[19:21] <charl> i think the end e throws me off
[19:21] <Kilos> quit and quite are single sounds
[19:21] <Kilos> quiet is 2 sounds
[19:21] <charl> qui-et
[19:21] <Kilos> ya
[19:21] <charl> ah i see it now
[19:28] <captine> Anyone had an issue when installing postgres on 12.04?  I installed it, but whenever trying to connect to it following the ubuntu help documentation (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL) my machine says postgres is not running.
[19:28] <captine> ps hi charl.  Sorry...only saw your message now
[19:39] <superfly> captine: I presume you've run "sudo /etc/init.d/postgres start" ?
[19:39] <superfly> captine: and you've also checked the log files?
[19:43] <captine> thanks superfly .  Tried the postres start... nothing happens.  am not sure which log file to check, but will try look there
[19:43] <superfly> captine: well, all the log files for your system are typically stored in /var/log, so I suggest looking in there...
[19:45] <captine> that's where i am
[19:45] <captine> no postgres specific one.  looking at postgres docs to try figure it out
[19:46] <not_found> quick look at my current desktop - http://youtu.be/GFJbkDUS028
[19:54] <captine> looks really nice
[19:55] <captine> makes me want to go diving
[19:59] <charl> what is that not_found is that kde ?
[20:00] <charl> makes me light headed that background :)
[20:02] <not_found> kde 4.12.1
[20:02] <not_found> kubuntu 13.10
[20:05] <charl> ah very nice
[20:06] <charl> that video had as a related video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SeS5IAYvdc
[20:06] <charl> now i am watching it and there is a guy with a dutch name, i thought why does he have a funny accent
[20:07] <charl> turns out he is from south africa http://ae.linkedin.com/pub/neil-van-der-veen/40/4/a38
[20:07] <captine> lol
[20:07] <charl> he is the architect in abu dabi
[20:08] <not_found> :)
[20:08] <not_found> cool
[20:09] <charl> actually now that i click back you also have a dutch name
[20:09] <charl> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oosthuizen
[20:10] <not_found> ;)
[20:10] <charl> from north-holland
[20:11] <not_found> well the origin of the surname
[20:12] <charl> dutch people picked surnames about 800 years ago during a french occupation
[20:12] <charl> most people picked stupid surnames because they thought the surnames would leave along with the french
[20:12] <charl> french left, surnames stayed
[20:12] <charl> a lot of people simply picked the place they come from as the surname
[20:14] <not_found> interesting
[20:14] <charl> it was for taxation actually
[20:14] <not_found> sucks :p
[20:15] <charl> yeah you still get some stupid surnames drifting around, but most people had the offensive ones changed later
[20:15] <charl> because some dutch actually picked blatantly offensive surnames to mock the french
[20:15] <not_found> makes sense :D
[20:16] <charl> there was somebody in the newspaper who had their name changed from "broekaf"
[20:16] <charl> if you have an offensive surname you can have it changed for free
[20:16] <charl> otherwise you have to pay a few hundred euro i think because it has to be updated everywhere
[20:16] <charl> on your passport, id card, etc etc
[20:17] <charl> all kinds of official documents and records
[20:17] <not_found> well I am just stuck with a long surname :)
[20:17] <charl> it's not that long, a lot of people have longer
[20:17] <charl> you don't have a "tussenvoegsel" at least, i do
[20:17] <not_found> :)
[20:19] <charl> i read somewhere that in south africa you get our id cards now
[20:21] <not_found> don't know... not been in SA for some time (except for a quick few days a few weeks ago)
[20:22] <not_found> Kim Dotcom is one of my favourite people to keep an eye on currently :) 
[20:23] <charl> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemalto
[20:23] <charl> that company, had to find it back again
[20:23] <charl> what is kim up to... hes doing a music site now ?
[20:24] <not_found> baboom
[20:25] <not_found> been playing with it for a bit... very slick html 5 and all
[20:25] <not_found> and downloaded his album... it is dance music not my fave but works for background noise when playing games :)_
[20:26] <charl> lol
[20:27] <charl> i like dance but i am not crazy about his album, there are one or two good tracks though
[20:27] <not_found> I have found a few that are catchy enough
[20:27] <charl> a guy i know from efnet/ircnet now made his own house radio http://angelicfm.nl/
[20:27] <charl> that's more my kind of stuff
[20:30] <not_found> cool
[20:46] <charl> i just opened a beer which is brewed in the same city as where i live
[20:46] <charl> real local beer - very good
[20:46] <charl> microbrewery
[20:51] <superfly> not_found: quick question, what's a decent but "cheap" nvidia graphics card? I'm thinking about possibly upgrading mine, but I'm not sure what'll give me the best bang for buck at an affordable price.
[20:52] <not_found> not so sure at the moment superfly...
[20:53] <not_found> I seem many going for the 660
[20:53] <charl> superfly: are you building a windows desktop? :)
[20:54] <superfly> no, but I want to play some of my Linux games at a decent framerate
[20:54] <charl> is linux + nvidia a safe combination ?
[20:55] <not_found> some say the best
[20:55] <superfly> It seems to be. I've stuck with nVidia for years
[20:55] <charl> i had too many problems with nvidia in the past, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
[20:55] <charl> sometimes it works and then it breaks with an upgrade
[20:55] <not_found> give me a sec just playing some heartstone brbr
[20:55] <charl> haven't you guys heard what linux torvalds himself said about nvidia? :)
[20:55] <superfly> only problem I've had is the stupid dkms not recompiling the kernel module when a new kernel is installed
[20:55] <not_found> he gave them thumbs up now
[20:55] <charl> linus torvalds sorry
[20:56] <superfly> charl: ^^ what not_found said
[20:56] <charl> ah when was this? haven't heard that yet
[20:56] <superfly> about 2 weeks ago?
[20:57] <charl> googling it now but only finding the finger from two years ago
[20:57] <superfly> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57618221-94/torvalds-gives-nvidia-software-thumbs-up-not-middle-finger/
[20:57] <superfly> OK, not quite two weeks ago
[20:57] <superfly> a week
[20:58] <charl> ah nice !
[20:58] <charl> slightly older: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/09/nvidia-seeks-peace-with-linux-pledges-help-on-open-source-driver/
[20:58] <not_found> but that has nothing to do with proprietary drivers in any case
[20:58] <charl> this is great news
[20:59] <charl> but yeah it will be a while before i would even consider using nvidia again
[20:59] <charl> i am sticking firmly to intel hd for the moment
[20:59] <superfly> meh. I've had so many issues with Intel, I would rather use ATI at this stage -_-
[20:59] <charl> ati lol
[20:59] <not_found> I didn't have any issues with ATI
[20:59] <charl> what ever happened to the radeon drivers
[20:59] <superfly> intel works fine if you aren't doing anything more than looking at terminals
[20:59] <not_found> ran a hd 6850 and it works well
[21:00] <charl> i would love to go back to amd but i abandoned them due to this nonsense with the radeon nonsense
[21:00] <not_found> the new intel coming with the iris pro CPU's is pretty awesome for embedded
[21:00] <charl> lol superfly i play 1080p using vlc without any problems whatsoever
[21:00] <charl> but yeah i don't play any 3d games
[21:01] <charl> oh i did my first experiment with raspberry pi the other day with raspbian
[21:01] <superfly> charl: yes, video is also fine... games are another matter completely
[21:02] <charl> superfly: yes that's true
[21:02] <captine> am also tying to stick to Intel for now.  My laptop has nvidia optimus... what a pain
[21:02] <charl> raspberry does 1080p no problem but don't even try doing any simple animations
[21:02] <charl> but for many purposes it is good enough
[21:02] <not_found> superfly: use this http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/ to get an idea of bang for buck
[21:03] <captine> raspberry pie is soo expensive in SA
[21:03] <superfly> at least I can play Portal on my current card... it's not so old that nVidia refuses to support it anymore
[21:03] <not_found> I can play most games now on high and newer games on medium to low for high demanding games using a 8800GT which is 5 years aold
[21:03] <not_found> the HD 6850 runs very well despite ATI drivers sucking
[21:03] <superfly> charl: the RPi has a dedicated x264 hardware decoder, video will work fine
[21:03] <charl> captine: how much does it cost?
[21:03] <charl> superfly: i think raspbian doesn't use it fully
[21:03] <captine> $25 overseas.  Seen it for close to or over R1000 here, depending on thecasing you get
[21:03] <charl> or there was some other problem but we couldn't do much from a browser
[21:04] <charl> iceweasel was it
[21:04] <not_found> I was eyeing a 660 or perhaps one of the similarly priced 7 series from nvidia
[21:04] <captine> could be wrong, but that's what I saw the otherday
[21:04] <superfly> captine: eish! I got mine for about R360
[21:04] <captine> really.  Nice.
[21:04] <superfly> but that was *just* the pi
[21:04] <captine> where?
[21:04] <superfly> and I got it via RS Components
[21:04] <charl> captine: in NL it costs like 30 euro
[21:04] <superfly> mine was part of hte second batch of 10,000
[21:04] <charl> captine: which i think sounds like a fair price
[21:04] <captine> yip
[21:05] <captine> oneday... i normally have my mac mini server plugged into the TV, but would prefer a small pie or dedicated media centre
[21:05] <superfly> not_found: thanks!
[21:07] <charl> people enjoy your evening, i'm off
[21:07] <Kilos> sleep tight night owls. see ya tomorrow
[21:07] <charl> have a good weekend
[21:07] <captine> superfly,  what do you use the pie for?
[21:07] <charl> good night Kilos 
[21:07] <captine> media playback?
[21:07] <captine> night
[21:07] <superfly> captine: nothing at the moment... I want to give it to my eldest
[21:07] <superfly> he's still a little young right now
[21:09] <not_found> np superfly, hope it helps :)
[21:11] <captine> nice
[21:15]  * not_found loving Heartstone and works well in Wine :DDDD
[21:22] <superfly> not_found: did you see the latest humble bundle?
[21:23] <not_found> yup... I think we did discuss it the night it came out actually :p - It is awesome value for those that don
[21:23] <not_found> *don't already have the games
[21:23] <superfly> yup
[21:23] <not_found> very late here... I go sleep now... night ZA land