[00:00] <locodir-user> the only reaction is for windows
[00:00] <student> even if the partition isn't the exact same size
[00:00] <locodir-user> if I just choose the partition and I follow the next untill to finish the installation
[00:00] <Ben64> student: backed up how
[00:00] <locodir-user> Mac OS X runs very well
[00:00] <student> using windows backup and restore utility
[00:00] <student> it created both a disk image and a backup file
[00:00] <Ben64> oh, i'm not sure about that
[00:00] <locodir-user> oh my god
[00:01] <locodir-user> I think I speak to people from space
[00:01] <Ben64> if it tries to write the disc image though, you could have some problems
[00:01] <student> I mean, it's not a big deal since the first time this happened, nothing was backed up
[00:01] <student> so I already lost everything, it would just be inconvenient to redo all the drivers
[00:01] <student> and music
[00:01] <student> and whatnot
[00:01] <locodir-user> give me patience
[00:01] <student> but I ca do that
[00:01] <locodir-user> anyway I will try alone
[00:02] <locodir-user> I bored to ask everybody and nobody to give me an answer
[00:02] <student> ben - I read before that sometimes residual remnants of previous gpt/mbr can mess with a fresh install
[00:02] <Ben64> locodir-user: i've given you an answer, but you don't seem to understand it
[00:02] <student> Ben has been very helpful, don't say no one is helping
[00:03] <locodir-user> what is your answer?
[00:03] <Avatas> Hello room. I'm looking for a list or recommendation for a decent UPS with native software support in Ubuntu 13.10.
[00:03] <Ben64> locodir-user: that installing ubuntu can render osx ubootable
[00:03] <snyp> Is there a way I actually use my discrete ati gpu in my hybrid graphics laptop?
[00:03] <snyp> *I can
[00:03] <student> are there any steps besides completely formatting the ssd that I should take before repartitioning?
[00:03] <student> and do you recommend creating one partition first?
[00:04] <locodir-user> what does it mean?
[00:04] <locodir-user> replacement>
[00:05] <locodir-user> are you mean, replacement?
[00:05] <Avatas> @snyp I've had some luck using bumblebee for Nvidia cards. I'm unsure what the analog for ATI is
[00:05] <locodir-user> linux will replace the mac os x?
[00:05] <locodir-user> are you mean that?
[00:05] <Ben64> student: yeah, windows is pretty picky about where it installs to. you'll need to create a gpt partition table, which will get rid of all partitions. make an ntfs partition for windows, an ext4 for ubuntu, and a bios_grub for the bootloader. you can make more for /home and swap or anything you want, those are optional
[00:06] <snyp> Avatas, ati support, it seems is pretty nil.
[00:06] <student> ben: remind me how to do the bios_grub for the bootloader?
[00:06] <Ben64> locodir-user: when you install ubuntu, normally the grub bootloader is installed onto the master boot record (mbr) of the hard drive. that controls the booting procedure. grub is very good about getting linux and windows to start, but osx is a different story. you can try it if you want, but it could stop you from booting osx
[00:07] <student> if you have time
[00:07] <hipitihop> I have been using unetbootin for creating various bootable usb sticks successfully for some time, but it doesn't seem to create valid boot usb aat all times, e.g. have been trying to create memtest86+ to no avail. Can someon recommend alternativ eto unetbootin
[00:07] <locodir-user> could you suggest me a video guider for it?
[00:08] <locodir-user> a step by step guide?
[00:08] <Avatas> snyp, I was afraid of that. I've had some bad experiences even with their desktop proprietary drivers. At least they are beginning to support OpenCL
[00:08] <Ben64> student: create an unformatted partition, only like 8MB, can be at the end of the drive, doesn't really matter. then right click on it after it is created and hit "manage flags" one of them should be bios_grub
[00:08] <student> ah, perfect
[00:08] <Beldar> hipitihop, pendrivelinux has a handful of usb loaders, look for ones that will run on the OS you use.
[00:08] <student> thanks so much for all your help, this has frustrated me for awhile
[00:08] <student> just out of curiosity, will you be online for a bit?
[00:09] <Ben64> student: most likely
[00:09] <student> great
[00:09] <locodir-user> could you suggest a step by step video guider for it?
[00:11] <hipitihop> Beldar, I use ubuntu 12.04 sorry that's why I'm here
[00:11] <locodir-user> don't you have some guide to show me the steps?
[00:12] <Rousseau> I have a hard time getting my webcam to work on my ubuntu 13.10 installation.
[00:13] <Avatas> Anyone here have a good recommendation for a UPS?
[00:17] <manjaro_user_> Hey im going to ask a question that i know aloooooot of people are struggeling with..and that is the unity dash...have anyone figured out why it is so darn slow? I have tried the no blur thing and its still slow..and it really shouldnt be
[00:18] <Diamondcite> What do you consider slow? And what are you running it on?
[00:19] <Diamondcite> Saying something like "It takes forever just to pop up" when it takes about 5 seconds, makes forever seem awfully short ^_^
[00:20] <manjaro_user_> As in really slow..lag ..eehm slower than normal? Im running it on an laptop with i5 pros, intel hd graphic with nvidia 1 gb gt 540m and 4 gb ram so my comp shouldnt be the issue since my other laptop that had a reaally bad amd card in it could run unity perfectly
[00:20] <tomatopotato> hi folks
[00:20] <tomatopotato> im getting
[00:20] <tomatopotato> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error'
[00:20] <tomatopotato>   what():  locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid
[00:21] <tomatopotato> any idea?
[00:21] <tomatopotato> what it could be?
[00:21] <manjaro_user_> i have installed intel driver and bumblebee so all drivers should be up to date ..unless ofcourse ubuntu still usues the vesa driver or whatever?
[00:22] <student> ben64: if you're still there - for that bios grub partition, I don't see the proper format in gparted
[00:22] <student> wait
[00:22] <student> never mind
[00:23] <student> does anyone know if the bios_grub partition can be extended or if it has to be primary?
[00:24] <Avatas> manjaro, I have a similar setup in my laptop and don't have those same dash issues. What sorts of fps do you get when you run glxgears?
[00:25] <Ben64> student: if you're using gpt you can make as many primaries as you want
[00:26] <manjaro_user_> I get high fps when using the nvidia card. So 3d accel in my nvidia card works..But its the intel card that runs unity.. But this comp runs windows 8.1 perfectly so mayby it could be a conflict with the intel driver and the nouveu driver?
[00:26] <Jordan_U> student: A BIOS Boot Partition is for GPT. GPT has no primary/extended/logical distinction.
[00:28] <student> Ben64: right, thanks
[00:29] <student> ben64: I tried twice, I got an error saying that the ex4 partition could not be made
[00:29] <student> any ideas?
[00:29] <Avatas> glxgears without optirun should default to the intel card I believe and you still get high fps?
[00:30] <Ben64> student: what is the error
[00:30] <manjaro_user_> no i did use optirun lol hehe
[00:30] <manjaro_user_> brb i need to boot back into ubuntu to check
[00:31] <student> ben64: it says the first ntfs partition was created fine, for the second one: it created the empty partition, cleared old file system signatures, set partition type, but then failed for creating new ext4 filesystem
[00:31] <student> I saved the details
[00:31] <Jordan_U> Ben64: Windows doesn't support booting from GPT disks via BIOS, so it would never really make much sense to have a BIOS Boot Partition on a drive containing a bootable Windows installation. Either student is using UEFI and needs an EFI System Partition, or is booting via BIOS and needs to use an msdos label to be compatable with Windows.
[00:32] <student> I know my bios is set to uefi mode
[00:32] <student> for what it's worth
[00:32] <Ben64> Jordan_U: oh, i didn't realize it couldn't boot bios to gpt
[00:33] <Avatas> Anyone here have a UPS with software support, recommendation?
[00:33] <skd5aner> Hello, my SATA3 SSD is loading as 3.0Gb/s vs 6.0Gb/s, even though the port is SATA3.  Here's the output from smartctl -x /dev/sdb1:  "SATA Version is:  SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)" - any ideas on how to force that to 6.0Gb/s?
[00:34] <Jazayri> Hi, why i don't receive the firefox 27 update ?
[00:34] <student> Jordan_U: I've formatted my ssd completely, created a partition for windows and left unallocated space for a future ubuntu install, and installed windows. I boot into the ubuntu live cd to format the unallocated space for ubuntu, which then renders windows unbootable and actually appears to erase the partition
[00:34] <student> Jordan_U: this has happened twice now - do you have any idas?
[00:34] <student> ideas
[00:35] <Jordan_U> student: Did the Ubuntu installer list your Windows installation or did it show the whole drive as being unallocated?
[00:40] <ubuntufixer> Avatas you still here? I get 60 fps with glxgears..but as soon as i open the dash it droppes down to 30 ish
[00:41] <Avatas> ubuntufixer, odd indeed. Is this a fresh install and done this from the beginning?
[00:42] <ubuntufixer> Its sorta fresh install. But it has done this since  it was a fresh install..it even does this when im using the live cd
[00:42] <ubuntuaddicted> i can't get minecraft server to start. i keep getting Error: Could not find or load main class minecraft_server.1.7.4.jar
[00:44] <student> Jordan_U: no, it did not recognize windows at all
[00:44] <student> Jordan_U: I was presented with two options: overwrite all existing data on the drive, and "other"
[00:44] <student> Jordan_U: where other showed me how the disk was partitioned, but it just said one big unallocated partition
[00:45] <Avatas> ubuntufixer: You mentioned you tried adjusting some compiz features before?
[00:45] <student> Jordan_U: interestingly, ubuntu showed my windows drive in the file explorer menu and I could see all my music, docs, etc.
[00:45] <student> from the livecd
[00:46] <Jordan_U> student: So the reason that Ubuntu is deleting the partition is that it's doing exactly what it said ot would do, using the whole drive as space for Ubuntu. The reason Ubuntu's installer is only giving the option of using the whole drive is most likely that you have an invalid partition table (which applications that use libparted, like GParted and Ubuntu's install, don't handle very gracefully). Please install Windows again then, ...
[00:46] <Jordan_U> ... before installing Ubuntu, run "sudo parted -l" and pastebin the output.
[00:46] <ubuntufixer> Avatas. Nope, but i do have wobbly windows and that stuff on. And those things arent lagging what so ever. So its only the dash. Everything else is as speedy as i believe it should be
[00:47] <ubuntufixer> so there must be a reason to why on earth the dash is soooo graphic intensive.
[00:48] <Avatas> ubuntufixer: I noticed a significant increase in dash performance by turning off internet suggestions under the privacy settings. Could it possibly be that?
[00:49] <ubuntufixer> Allready done that:)
[00:49] <Avatas> doh!
[00:49] <Avatas> don't suppose you notice any odd bits under dmesg?
[00:50] <student> Jordan_U: will you be online for 20-30 minutes?
[00:50] <student> Jordan_U: also, I'll wipe the drive, but when I install windows - should I leave unallocated space for ubuntu later?
[00:50] <ubuntufixer> idk really so ill just post the output in here
[00:50] <n-iCe> how can I get a list of all my wifi aps and passwords list
[00:50] <Avatas> careful could be long
[00:51] <ubuntufixer> any parts of it spesific you want?
[00:54] <student> Jordan_U: also, gparted was not recognizing my windows partition, but disks was! So when I formatted that one unallocated partition in disks and then attempted to reboot into windows, windows was gone
[00:54] <student> even though disks did recognize the partitions separately AND I could see my windows data in "files" before shutting down after partitioning
[00:56] <ash_> Oh cooool, Ubuntu has IRC.:D
[00:58] <ash_> Hallo. :3
[01:03] <xeno> I guess I just mistakenly installed gnome on Ubuntu server.
[01:03] <xeno> Can I ask here about Ubuntu Server?
[01:04] <xeno> Apparently I need to add a package to put the right window adjustment buttons on my gnome windows, or I need to uninstall gnome and put up whatever it is desktop Ubuntu has.
[01:06] <treehouse> alright.... so i did a apt-get install kvm* ... now, what problems, security risks etc can I expect?
[01:06] <tomatopotato> how do i run python in background? from a terminal on a vps, so i can logout and it still runs?, i tried "&" but doesnt cut it
[01:06] <treehouse> it installed some weird daemons too
[01:06] <Seven_Six_Two> tomatopotato, run it in a screen session
[01:06] <nightfly> tomatopotato: (thing&)&
[01:07] <tomatopotato> ?
[01:07] <Seven_Six_Two> tomatopotato, terminal multiplexer. will continue running if you disconnect from it without exiting.
[01:07] <xeno> I just have an x for deleting on the NE corner of each window.  I'd prever the three button set which is normal.
[01:08] <tomatopotato> oh sorry, im a noob and dont know much tbh
[01:08] <tomatopotato> what do you mean with multiplexer?
[01:08] <treehouse> so... I accidently apt-get install a regex with a wildcard.. installing a lot of weird stuff. What is nova?
[01:08] <k1l_> tomatopotato: "screen"
[01:08] <Seven_Six_Two> tomatopotato, check the man page. it's obvious from that. It's like "windows" for a terminal, except you use hotkeys to switch from one to the other.
[01:09] <xeno> Is it compiz?
[01:09] <tomatopotato> here is what i have to run "python -m Abe.abe --config abe.conf"
[01:09] <tomatopotato> and by itself it works
[01:09] <tomatopotato> ok i will
[01:09] <Seven_Six_Two> tomatopotato, install "screen" and run it.
[01:09] <nightfly> tomatopotato: treehouse It's part of OpenStack
[01:09] <nightfly> err, sorry tomatopotato
[01:10] <tomatopotato> ok screen is installed
[01:10] <tomatopotato> i need to check now the man page
[01:10] <Seven_Six_Two> tomatopotato, then use ctrl+a,ctrl+c to  create a new session, ctrl+a,ctrl+: to get a list of sessions.
[01:10] <Tengis> Ubuntu has been royally pissing me off
[01:11] <Seven_Six_Two> yeah, check it out, and play with it. It's not hard, but it's also not obvious what's going on
[01:11] <Seven_Six_Two> Tengis, thankfully it's not a monopoly.
[01:11] <Tengis> I built a nas using lubuntu and have been fighting the system to spin my drives down according to hdparm settings
[01:12] <Tengis> I installed lubuntu, samba, and snapraid using aufs for pooling
[01:14] <Seven_Six_Two> xeno, you're using ubuntu-server?
[01:15] <Seven_Six_Two> xeno, what desktop/environment?
[01:15] <Tengis> Any suggestions on things i could try to fix the problem?
[01:15] <Seven_Six_Two> Tengis, does hdparm give output, and how do you know if your drives have spun down?
[01:15] <xeno> I just need a desktop system that has reasonable terminal windows and works well with virtualbox
[01:16] <Tengis> Hdparm -C
[01:16] <k1l_> Tengis: see lsof what is causing the writes/reads to not spin them down
[01:16] <Seven_Six_Two> xeno, yes, but what are you running now?
[01:16] <Tengis> I used iotop
[01:16] <Seven_Six_Two> xeno, is it xfce? openbox?
[01:16] <Tengis> Will isof show more useful information?
[01:16] <Seven_Six_Two> lsof
[01:17] <Seven_Six_Two> shows all open files and what's accessing them.
[01:17] <xeno> Since what I am seeing from the megalithic install of gnome is broken controls on ubuntu server.
[01:17] <xeno> Sorry, I was interrupted.
[01:17] <Tengis> I have all tmp files going to ram also via fstab
[01:18] <xeno> So, I just need to install a package, like the one that is on Ubuntu Desktop, that will have windows that work with Terminal and Virtualbox.
[01:18] <mojtaba> Hi, I have replaced my laptop's HDD (500GB) with a new one (1TB). I have used ddrescue and transferred all of my data. the question is that, how can I use the remaining free 500GB? My ubuntu is also encrypted. should I use gparted to add this to /home?
[01:18] <xeno> How do I know if it is iifce, openbox?
[01:18] <xeno> I just installed ubuntu server, and it didn't have a native desktop, so I installed gnome.
[01:19] <xeno> Gnome has broken windwos as per my above statement.
[01:19] <k1l_> xeno: ubuntu-desktop is the package
[01:19] <Seven_Six_Two> xeno, usually there will be a theming utility that will let you change that, but you might justt want to install a different environment like xfce and log out and choose that session.
[01:19] <k1l_> xeno: or lubuntu-desktop, or xubuntu-desktop
[01:19] <xeno> Ok.  So I I apt-get remove gnome, and apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will that go?
[01:19] <Seven_Six_Two> xeno, that will likely give you unity.
[01:19] <k1l_> xeno: no need for remove so far
[01:20] <xeno> Ok.  I don't mind Unity.  I just want the window controls to work.
[01:21] <Seven_Six_Two> xeno, if it's for a server, xubuntu-desktop would work. You need compositing in a vm session?
[01:21] <xeno> The ones I have know have grayed out sizing controls (zoom, for instance) and the only top bar control is the x
[01:21] <xeno> I just picked server by mistake because I'm programming, and I figured it would have a desktop.
[01:21] <Tengis> Im using lubuntu on my NAS
[01:22] <xeno> I Need to test things on many flavors of Linux on virtualbox.
[01:22] <Tengis> You can install ubuntu server with desktop.
[01:22] <wheatthin> anybody familiar with getting ati's opencl working on ubuntu 13.10?
[01:22] <mojtaba> Hi, I have replaced my laptop's HDD (500GB) with a new one (1TB). I have used ddrescue and transferred all of my data. the question is that, how can I use the remaining free 500GB? My ubuntu is also encrypted. should I use gparted to add this to /home?
[01:22] <xeno> So I need virtualbox and terminals to work well.
[01:22] <Tengis> There is a TON of stuffed listed under lsof
[01:22] <Seven_Six_Two> xeno, oh, then yeah, ubuntu-desktop
[01:22] <xeno> Ok.  I'll try that now.
[01:23] <Seven_Six_Two> Tengis, yes, you might need to use grep
[01:23] <Seven_Six_Two> !grep
[01:23] <xeno> Thanks you guys.
[01:23] <Seven_Six_Two> bah. that wasn't about grep.
[01:23] <Seven_Six_Two> mojtaba, yes, gparted would work fine. just be careful!
[01:24] <Tengis> I can navigate lsof but I'm not sure what i should be looking for
[01:24] <mojtaba> Seven_Six_Two: Will the remaining space be encrypted later?
[01:24] <Seven_Six_Two> if you create an encrypted filesystem. Not by default.
[01:25] <tomatopotato> ok thnx guys
[01:25] <tomatopotato> got screen running
[01:25] <tomatopotato> works nice
[01:25] <Seven_Six_Two> Tengis, anything accessing /dev/hd[abc] when you expect it to spin down
[01:26] <Tengis> Can i sort by devices being accessed
[01:26] <mojtaba> Seven_Six_Two: The first HDD (500GB) was encrypted, and now I want to use extra 500GB of the new HDD (which is not encrypted I guess.)
[01:26] <Seven_Six_Two> Tengis, I think that the output is dynamic, so you can filter it with grep
[01:26] <rostam> HI general question , I need to  choose a system management software, I am wondering to choose either Puppet or salt. Any recommandation greatly appreciated? thx
[01:26] <n-iCe> help! any video I play in ubuntu is playing fast, like in rewind, any ideas? pls
[01:26] <rww> rostam: salt
[01:26] <Seven_Six_Two> mojtaba, yes, it sounds like you need to create a second partition on that drive.
[01:27] <rostam> rww: could you let me why please?
[01:27] <mojtaba> Seveas: Can I extend the /dev/sda1 for example?
[01:27] <shadowda_> !hamsterbacke Greg Keyes - [Elder Scrolls 01] - The Infernal City (v5.0) (epub).rar
[01:27] <Seven_Six_Two> mojtaba, I'm not sure. You'd be safer just creating another partition. You can mount it wherever you like.
[01:28] <mojtaba> Seven_Six_Two: Then how can I have it encrypted?
[01:28] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, what player?
[01:28] <wheatthin> I just wanted to add a bit more horse power to my graphics rendering
[01:30] <n-iCe> Seven_Six_Two: all videos
[01:30] <n-iCe> Seven_Six_Two: flash I guess
[01:30] <n-iCe> facebook videos, youtube videos, using chrome
[01:30] <Seven_Six_Two> mojtaba, I don't know...
[01:30] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, what browser(s)
[01:30] <Avatas> Hello again all. Does anyone have a recommendation for a UPS with software support for Ubuntu?
[01:30] <Seven_Six_Two> just chrome? not chromium, ff?
[01:30] <k1l_> Tengis: you can give lsof mountpoints or files or devices
[01:31] <n-iCe> Seven_Six_Two: I don't know I just use chrome
[01:31] <Tengis> Im googling how to do that right now
[01:31] <n-iCe> just opened ff, and is ok, so it is just chrome Seven_Six_Two
[01:32] <Seven_Six_Two> n-iCe, it might be a bug with the built-in flash plugin. try to disable it in extensions or plugins, and install the flashplugin-installer from repos
[01:32] <Seven_Six_Two> Avatas, I use APC Back UPS ES 750
[01:33] <Seven_Six_Two> and apcupsd
[01:34] <Tengis> When i run these commands nothing happens. Is it outputting to a log file
[01:34] <Tengis> Lsof | grep '/media'
[01:35] <Seven_Six_Two> Tengis, no capitals, no "/" and you should specify a device, not a folder
[01:35] <Avatas> Seven_Six_Two: thanks for the recommendation. I was looking at that one. No problems with automated shutdown on power loss?
[01:35] <Seven_Six_Two> Tengis, like sda1 or sdb2
[01:36] <Seven_Six_Two> Avatas, tbh I haven't tested it in a while. I suppose I should.
[01:36] <atifumacaxi> boa noite, comunidaaade!
[01:36] <Seven_Six_Two> It worked when I installed it.
[01:36] <atifumacaxi> good night, comunity!
[01:36] <Avatas> hah! :)
[01:36] <atifumacaxi> someone there can help me with oracle 10g and perl?
[01:36] <k1l_> Tengis: sudo lsof /media  #iirc
[01:37] <Tengis> None of those output anything unless it's going to a log file or something
[01:38] <k1l_> Tengis: then there is no use in there
[01:38] <k1l_> Tengis: you could try the /dev/sdX
[01:38] <k1l_> Tengis: but i am not aware if some raid setup does interfer with that
[01:38] <Galick> Hello.
[01:39] <xeno> Okay, I installed my Ubuntu-Desktop package, but my terminals STILL don't have working size controls from the keyboard, nor from the top bar menu.
[01:39] <Tengis> My drives are jbod
[01:39] <xeno> The dropdown menu has the controls, but the keyboard controls theylist don't appear to work.
[01:39] <Tengis> No hardware or software raid, just snapraid which is essentially a backup
[01:40] <Galick> How to install CANNON MP280 driver. I don't know how to do that.
[01:40] <treehouse> I apt-get installed * .. now, it installed a lot of weird stuff. How can I see the latest installed packages? (so that I can remove them)?
[01:40] <xeno> I am On a Mac machine with a Mac keyboard, so plain F11 does not work.  What would be the proper F11 I wonder, or is it just broken in the package?
[01:40] <Galick> It's take too long.
[01:40] <k1l_> Tengis: see if manually spindown works with hdparm
[01:40] <Tengis> It does but they spin back up
[01:41] <Tengis> I've got four identical drives all configured exactly the same
[01:41] <Tengis> At 3am with 5+ hours of zero use one or two will still be spinning
[01:41] <atifumacaxi> someone there can help me with perl and oracle 10g??? D:
[01:42] <Seven_Six_Two> Tengis, is anything in cron or anacron?
[01:42] <Tengis> My fifth drive is the os drive. I've all but abandoned getting that one to spin down because of random things writing and accessing even though i set all tmp to be in a ram drive
[01:42] <Tengis> I put one thing in crontab but it's currently disabled
[01:43] <Galick> Can someone solve problem.
[01:43] <Seven_Six_Two> what are the drive's mount options? are they all the same?
[01:43] <xeno> Ok.  I do have those working.
[01:43] <Seven_Six_Two> Galick, install cups and there should be a driver included.
[01:43] <Seven_Six_Two> Galick, you don't use the cd.
[01:43] <xeno> Is there any way to install some package to get the iconization and full screen buttons on the top bar of windows?  They are still missing.
[01:44] <Beldar> Galick, Tell the channel what you have done in detail so far, IE what driver from where are you talking about.
[01:44] <Seven_Six_Two> xeno, do you have a gui login screen?
[01:44] <xeno> Yes.
[01:44] <xeno> Yes, that stuff is adequate.
[01:44] <Tengis> Uuid=x /media/diskx ext4 defaults,noatime 0 2
[01:44] <Seven_Six_Two> xeno, and what session are you choosing when you login?
[01:44] <xeno> I don't know.
[01:45] <Tengis> That's exactly how it looks minus the actual uuid and disk 1-5
[01:45] <Seven_Six_Two> xeno, there will be a button on the login screen to select different sessions.
[01:45] <xeno> There is something that says...
[01:45] <xeno> High Contrast, Zoom,...
[01:45] <treehouse> how's dpkg related to ubuntu?
[01:45] <treehouse> is it "used"?
[01:46] <xeno> A/nd a date Item.
[01:46] <Seven_Six_Two> treehouse, under the hood, not usually used directly.
[01:46] <treehouse> dpkg -l .. will that lists all installed packages (apt-get) of this system?
[01:46] <treehouse> s/of/in
[01:46] <Seven_Six_Two> xeno, somewhere near the login button and password box. It might not even be labelled.
[01:46] <xeno> I don't see anything "Session" related on the login screen.
[01:47] <Seven_Six_Two> something that pops up a list.
[01:47] <xeno> Got it.
[01:47] <xeno> System Default, Gnome, Gnome classic, G.... Ubuntu?
[01:47] <Seven_Six_Two> xeno, what's selected? just try them and use what you like. I like gnome and ubuntu, as well as xfce
[01:48] <xeno> Oops.
[01:48] <xeno> No, default was selected.
[01:48] <xeno> I picked Ubuntu, and it left me in a blank desktop with no features.
[01:48] <NeverHere> I asked in -server but no reply,  Is there a way to reinstall the default config files after apt-get purge?
[01:48] <xeno> Now I'm really in trouble.
[01:48] <xeno> I cannot get out.
[01:49] <Seven_Six_Two> xeno, alt+ctrl+F1
[01:49] <Seven_Six_Two> log in
[01:49] <Seven_Six_Two> xeno, sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[01:49] <xeno> That put me in a User desktop that now looks normal.
[01:49] <FreewheelinFrank> need command to open folder as root
[01:49] <xeno> Perhaps it was just blank because it took a long time.
[01:50] <Seven_Six_Two> xeno, maybe. Unity isn't known for speed.
[01:50] <xeno> Okay, I will go try things now, but I may have it.  Thank you SevenSixTwo.
[01:50] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank, for what?
[01:50] <NeverHere> FreewheelinFrank, open folder? as in change directory?
[01:50] <xeno> I believe it.
[01:50] <FreewheelinFrank> Im trying to open my music folder from my old macbook pro hard drive
[01:51] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank, is it in an external case now?
[01:51] <FreewheelinFrank> System\Users\Name\Music
[01:51] <FreewheelinFrank> yes
[01:51] <FreewheelinFrank> connected via USB
[01:52] <Seven_Six_Two> what filesystem is on it?
[01:52] <NeverHere> chmod >.>
[01:52] <FreewheelinFrank> apple...snow leopard
[01:52] <Seven_Six_Two> lol
[01:52] <NeverHere> oh boy
[01:52] <atifumacaxi> AHEUAHEUAHH
[01:52] <Seven_Six_Two> I don't know if the permissions are the same to do chown
[01:52] <FreewheelinFrank> it crashed and I've got ubuntu running on a new box. trying to recover all my old files
[01:53] <NeverHere> FreewheelinFrank, you should be able to do sudo chmod 777 /that/dir/ -R
[01:53] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank, ok, try this:   sudo chown -R yourusername /full/path/to/Music
[01:53] <NeverHere> should give you access
[01:53] <NeverHere> or that
[01:53] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank, yeah, or the chmod
[01:54] <FreewheelinFrank> ok yesh is there a dictionary of commands so I understand what I'm doing? Any recommendations...so far haven't found
[01:54] <Seven_Six_Two> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/
[01:55] <remuxa> are there community supported builds of ubuntu for powerpc?
[01:56] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank, http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html
[01:57] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank, the second one is more what you need, the first will prime you on bash scripting
[01:57] <Seven_Six_Two> and regex.
[01:57] <FreewheelinFrank> Thanks!
[01:58] <FreewheelinFrank> I am trying to remember my username and password now :(
[01:58] <Guest3659> Hello - how I can change the place of icons(close, minimalize) to be one the right side?
[01:58] <FreewheelinFrank> Nothing in the GUI to 'open as'?
[01:59] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank, you mean a pdf?
[01:59] <FreewheelinFrank> Hmm no if I can't access through the GUI then I need commands to copy and paste into my new storage system
[01:59] <Beldar> remuxa, might help, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[01:59] <FreewheelinFrank> I guess its unity? Saucy Salamander...
[02:00] <NeverHere> FreewheelinFrank, if you simply copy the files you will have problems with the permissions again unless you mod them first
[02:00] <FreewheelinFrank> Is this just for Gnome
[02:00] <treehouse> made a mistake and apt-get install mk* .. do I need to fear that my security is compromised? I.e. that some "share my comp with the world"-daemon got installed?
[02:00] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank, please prepend what you say with the name of the person that you're addressing.
[02:01] <hipitihop> I'm trying to create latest memtest86+ v5.01 as bootable usb flahs drive, I have tried unetbootin, yumi and multi system creators, they either create the usb but memtest fails to boot, or in the case of multi system, it says the memtest iso is not yet supported. I realise this is wrong channel, can someone point me pls
[02:01] <Seven_Six_Two> treehouse, doubtful.
[02:01] <FreewheelinFrank> Seven_Six_Two: Thanks my apologies.
[02:01] <hipitihop> other iso with these like ubuntu livecd, rescuedisk etc boot fine
[02:01] <NeverHere> hipitihop, i use lili usb creator
[02:01] <FreewheelinFrank> Seven_Six_Two: So I should be looking for the mod command?
[02:02] <hipitihop> NeverHere, will have a look thanks, is there something special about memtest iso ?
[02:02] <NeverHere> hipitihop, im not familiar with memtest. sorry
[02:02] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank, what are you trying to do again?
[02:03] <hipitihop> NeverHere, lili is a windows app
[02:03] <FreewheelinFrank> Seven_Six_Two: Open my old User folder from an apple mac book pro harddrive
[02:03] <Seven_Six_Two> oh, so did the drive mount already?
[02:04] <NeverHere> hipitihop, yes
[02:04] <FreewheelinFrank> Seven_Six_Two:  Yes I can see folders but can't get into the Music folder, haven't tried others yet
[02:04] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank, what is the full path?
[02:05] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank, /media/externaldrive/Music
[02:05] <FreewheelinFrank> Seven_Six_Two:  System/Users/Name/Music then it prompts for username & password
[02:06] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank, that's not a full path. where is it mounted?
[02:06] <treehouse> do you need to run something as root in order to use kvm?
[02:06] <NeverHere> FreewheelinFrank, wait, so you don't know the username and password on your own harddrive?
[02:06] <FreewheelinFrank> Seven_Six_Two: So add Media to front?
[02:07] <FreewheelinFrank> Seven_Six_Two:  Yes I just need to remember it, but can't 'open as' in the GUI
[02:07] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank, type    mount | pastebinit
[02:08] <FreewheelinFrank> Seven_Six_Two: Yes? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6894490
[02:09] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank, ok, it's readonly so you won't be able to change the permisssions.
[02:10] <FreewheelinFrank> Seven_Six_Two: Can't even read
[02:10] <FreewheelinFrank> Seven_Six_Two: I need a drink
[02:10] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank,          in a terminal, get root with         sudo su -
[02:11] <Seven_Six_Two> then use "cd" to navigate there, and see if you can see files.
[02:11] <Seven_Six_Two> this will give you root, which won't ask you "are you sure" if you do something silly.
[02:11] <Seven_Six_Two> but might let you copy the files off of that filesystem
[02:12] <eflynn> how do i get to the grub command line
[02:15] <FreewheelinFrank> Seven_Six_Two:  hmm 3 incorrect attempts. What if there is no password? Does it reset? after a while?
[02:16] <daftykins> Seven_Six_Two: "sudo su" is bad practice, don't do it and don't advise to do it
[02:16] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank, I don't even know where the password requests are coming from. do you not know your ubuntu password?
[02:17] <Seven_Six_Two> daftykins, what's the alternative?
[02:17] <daftykins> sudo -s
[02:17] <FreewheelinFrank> Seven_Six_Two: Yes but it is asking me for the password from my old apple hard drive, I haven'
[02:17] <treehouse> k, so KVM needs to die, since it prevents me to use vbox properly. How do I murder KVM?
[02:17] <Seven_Six_Two> daftykins, kk thanks.
[02:17] <FreewheelinFrank> Seven_Six_Two: haven't opened it in a year
[02:17] <FreewheelinFrank> Seven_Six_Two: that was like three passwords ago
[02:18] <Seven_Six_Two> Freejack_, Where is the password prompt coming from? what command are you doing?
[02:18] <FreewheelinFrank> Seven_Six_Two: should be able to crack that mofo!
[02:20] <Seven_Six_Two> FreewheelinFrank, if you're getting a password challenge after doing the command I gave you, that's your ubuntu password, not the mac password. and use "sudo -s" instead.
[02:21] <Nothing_Much> I need help with the top right corner icons
[02:21] <FreewheelinFrank> Seven_Six_Two: Man I can't even change directories
[02:22] <totesmuhgoats> hey guys
[02:22] <totesmuhgoats> what is the equivalent of /var/log/messages in ubuntu?
[02:24] <NeverHere> totesmuhgoats, what kind of messages? like a system log?
[02:25] <totesmuhgoats> NeverHere: i don't really know, a long time ago i used a different distro and it would give me information about things like connected hardware
[02:25] <nothing__much> Helllo?
[02:25] <nothing__much> Oh good
[02:26] <nothing__much> Alright, I'm having problems with the top right corner indicator applets
[02:26] <nothing__much> They just aren't there.
[02:26] <NeverHere> totesmuhgoats, not sure then, i only use /var/log/syslog
[02:26] <quietone> how do I add a keyboard layout via command line?
[02:27] <NeverHere> nothing__much, did you check the top left hand corner for the applets?
[02:27] <nothing__much> Not there NeverHere, the global.. thing works just fine
[02:27] <nothing__much> global menu's?
[02:27] <nothing__much> Oh wait
[02:27] <nothing__much> Those aren't working either..
[02:28] <NeverHere> nothing_much are you using the default ubuntu theme?
[02:28] <nothing__much> I actually just removed Xubuntu-desktop and installed Ubuntu-desktop
[02:28] <nothing__much> And removed most of xubuntu's stuff
[02:28] <nothing__much> I am using ubuntu's default theme
[02:28] <nothing__much> Ambiance
[02:31] <nothing__much> Well I would like the global menus to work as well now. :/
[02:31] <dharc> ubuntu will migrate to logind without systemd?
[02:33] <totesmuhgoats> NeverHere: thanks, i think that was what i was looking for
[02:33] <Not_a_drone> #
[02:34] <k1l_> dharc: yes, consolekit is no longer maintained and systemd included that. so ubuntu will patch logind to run without the whole systemd stack
[02:34] <nothing__much> Can anybody help with the lack of global menus and top right indicator applets?
[02:34]  * nightfly kinda hopes Debian adopts systemd and Ubuntu ends up following in a few years
[02:34] <dharc> k1l_: where can i found any code about this port?
[02:36] <V10energy> please help. I am trying to install asus n10 wireless usb dongle. first I installed build essetnial and then sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r). Then I ran the install.sh that came with the driver and I am getting an error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6894575/
[02:36] <jonathan2> i can't get my printer (Canon MF-3010) to print anything, including test pages. cups doesn't seem to report any issues. anybody have thoughts on how to troubleshoot?
[02:37] <eflynn> what is a well written book that covers linux system administration, including ubuntu
[02:37] <k1l_> dharc: i remember a talk about that in the ubuntu developer summit beginning of last year.
[02:38] <esiodo> hola
[02:40] <karen> #ubuntu
[02:40] <Guest22930> #xubuntu
[02:41] <treehouse> I don't have my dashboard or the top bar on my desktop O_o .. what do I do!?
[02:41] <treehouse> can apt-get purge qemu* be the cause?
[02:41] <nightfly> you should stop wildcarding packages...
[02:42] <treehouse> indeed :(
[02:42] <dharc> what about ubuntu gnu/kfreebsd?
[02:42] <SonikkuAmerica> dharc: What is that.
[02:42] <treehouse> did anyone said anything after "you should stop.."?
[02:43] <eflynn> apt-get purge "qemu*" note the quotes
[02:44] <ka> #xubuntu
[02:44] <dharc> SonikkuAmerica: look Debian GNU/kFreeBSD
[02:44] <treehouse> eflynn: what about it?
[02:44] <ka> is there a way to make a update go faster?
[02:44] <SonikkuAmerica> dharc: This is a better topic for, of all places, #ubuntu-discuss
[02:45] <SchrodingersScat> ka: depends, what seems to be the hold-up?
[02:45] <k1l> ka "/join #channel"
[02:45] <eflynn> treehouse: if you don't quote it the asterisk the shell will glob for it. or do apt-get purge qemu\* note the backslash
[02:45] <ka> nothing gust inpatient. ;)
[02:45] <k1l> dharc: there might be ports but i doubt that is official
[02:45] <ka> just
[02:46] <Nothing_Much> Can I get the freakin' global menus and indicators back on the top right corner???
[02:46] <ka> k1L; what
[02:47] <JustinCase> hi
[02:47] <esiodo> hi hi
[02:47] <Tengis> Would Ubuntu server differ much from lubuntu as far as processes that interfere with hdparm
[02:47] <dharc> k1l: well, should be official because today linux = android :P
[02:47] <ka> is there an offital way.
[02:47] <JustinCase> how can i convert sound files to the .aa3 format?
[02:47] <Tengis> I've been fucking with this nas for weeks and drives won't ever spin down like i want them too
[02:48] <k1l> dharc: sorry but that does not relate to using ubuntu with a bsd kernel.
[02:48] <Nothing_Much> Can I get the freakin' global menus and indicators back on the top right corner???
[02:48] <Tengis> And some how magically i can't browse network share folders anymore with smb://workgroup
[02:48] <treehouse> eflynn: will it do it for sure though? It seemed to "get the message"? (although your point is valid and the right way to do it.. just curious)
[02:48] <treehouse> will it glob it, that is
[02:48] <ka> can someone help me
[02:48] <SchrodingersScat> JustinCase: have you tried ffmpeg or avconv?
[02:48] <eflynn> treehouse: it's a shell thing
[02:49] <ka> hello
[02:49] <JustinCase> no i have not
[02:49] <Nothing_Much> Can I get the freakin' global menus and indicators back on the top right corner???
[02:49] <JustinCase>  i am not that smart
[02:49] <eflynn> treehouse: test it with echo qemu*
[02:49] <eflynn> treehouse: it's not always going to "get it"
[02:49] <treehouse> eflynn: did that. it seems that * only "expands" if you express it isolated
[02:49] <ka> hello
[02:49] <eflynn> treehouse: wrong!
[02:50] <Beldar> Nothing_Much, What desktop and ubuntu release, details to the channel please.
[02:50] <treehouse> eflynn: echo qemu*   I got "qemu*", did you get something else?
[02:50] <eflynn> treehouse: yeah
[02:50] <ka> can someone help me
[02:50] <eflynn> treehouse: because i have no files in the current directory that match the glob :)
[02:50] <k1l> !details | ka
[02:51] <eflynn> treehouse: try "touch qemu_a qemu_b" and do the echo again
[02:51] <treehouse> ah.. indeed
[02:51] <ka> is there a way i can speed up a update
[02:51] <k1l> ka no
[02:51] <Nothing_Much> Beldar: I'm on Ubuntu 13.10 and Unity
[02:51] <knight`> JustinCase: install libav-tools from software centre
[02:51] <eflynn> treehouse: if you do qemu\* or "qemu*" you get what you're expecting
[02:52] <Beldar> Nothing_Much, Are the missing items associated with any changes you have done?
[02:52] <treehouse> thanks eflynn :)
[02:52] <eflynn> treehouse: no problem
[02:53] <treehouse> is it easy to just apt-get install another desktop environment? (I just screwed unity up)
[02:53] <Nothing_Much> Beldar: Yeah- wait what? Well, what I did was install Xubuntu from a disk, then wanted to use Ubuntu, so I installed ubuntu-desktop and removed xubuntu's packages
[02:54] <Beldar> Nothing_Much, xubuntu is a meta package set up, how exactly did you remove it?
[02:54] <Nothing_Much> I purged all of the xfce packages
[02:54] <Nothing_Much> Through synaptic
[02:55] <Beldar> Nothing_Much, My guess that is the root of the issue, you would not generally remove that way, a package list is best.
[02:55] <Nothing_Much> A what?
[02:55] <Nothing_Much> Never heard of a package list
[02:56] <treehouse> can one restart the whole desktop thingie? (since I lack a logut button)
[02:56] <Beldar> Nothing_Much, For example, notice the specific releases. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[02:56] <Oobi> help
[02:57] <Oobi> i can't paste anything, it's just greyed out
[02:57] <Oobi> the paste button
[02:57] <SpudDogg> Oobi, what application?
[02:57] <Oobi> the files and folders
[02:58] <SpudDogg> what about in the right-click context?
[02:58] <Oobi> yea, the drop down folder when i right click
[02:58] <Oobi> the paste button is greyed out
[02:58] <SpudDogg> waht are you trying to paste?
[02:58] <Nothing_Much> Beldar: Well.. that didn't do much
[02:58] <Nothing_Much> At all
[02:59] <Oobi> a tar.gz file
[02:59] <Oobi> installing java
[02:59] <Oobi> in /usr/local
[02:59] <SpudDogg> trying to paste to /usr/local?  assuming it's a permissions issue
[02:59] <jonathan2> anybody have any experience with canon ufr driver in ubuntu 13.10?
[02:59] <SpudDogg> perhaps you don't have write permissions?
[02:59] <Beldar> Nothing_Much, What didn't do much? we don't do magic here when users error.
[02:59] <Oobi> where is a good place to install java then
[02:59] <Nothing_Much> Sorry
[02:59] <Nothing_Much> Uh
[02:59] <Nothing_Much> I copied and pasted the command for removing Xubuntu
[03:00] <Nothing_Much> It didn't work
[03:00] <SpudDogg> Oobi: you should just install with apt-get install java-7-jre or whatever
[03:00] <SpudDogg> Oobi: apt-cache search java.  then find the openjdk one.
[03:00] <SpudDogg> Oobi: actually, isn't java installed by default in ubuntu? (sorry, i come from just straight debian)
[03:01] <Beldar> Nothing_Much, You have already removed part of it, it should error. I gave you the example as to what should have been done.
[03:01] <guest_____> I am running Ubuntu 12.0.4.4 LTS with a kernel version 3.2.0-58-generic. Do I have the latest kernel (3.11)???
[03:01] <Nothing_Much> Beldar: I know, so how do I get my global menus and indicators back?
[03:02] <Beldar> Nothing_Much, You could probably reload what you have removed, check if the menu stuff is back, then use a removal list, just a guess though.
[03:02] <Oobi> well, i'm just trying to play minecraft
[03:02] <k1l> guest_____: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[03:02] <Oobi> this is the cost of using ubuntu in a windows world
[03:03] <SpudDogg> Oobi: go to minecraft.net, download Minecraft.jar.  open a terminal, 'cd Downloads' then just java -jar Minecraft.jar
[03:03] <Beldar> Nothing_Much, I am assuming you noticed there are pages for each release IE 12.04 to 13.04 with the desktop lists on them.
[03:03] <Guest67174> can open jdk run minecraft?
[03:04] <SpudDogg> Guest67174: yes, i do it every day :)
[03:04] <Oobi> wow it's installing java now
[03:04] <Guest67174> thanks ,<SpudDogg>
[03:06] <Nothing_Much> Oi
[03:06] <Guest67174> i am downloading ubutntu 14.04  Daily Build.can this vertion update to release version by apt-get upgrade?
[03:06] <Nothing_Much> I have no idea what you're talking about Beldar
[03:06] <rww> Guest67174: 1) 14.04 support in #ubuntu+1 until it's released. 2) yes
[03:06] <Beldar> !14.04 | Guest67174
[03:06] <Oobi> for some reason, ubuntu makes me think the tubular bells by mike oldfield
[03:06] <Oobi> the name
[03:07] <SpudDogg> Oobi: you get minecraft running?
[03:07] <phuh> What is the best window manager that uses the least memory resources?
[03:07] <Oobi> it's still installing java
[03:07] <Guest67174> thank u
[03:07] <SpudDogg> Oobi: installing with apt-get?
[03:07] <Oobi> yea
[03:07] <k1l> phuh: ohhh, there are very very minimal desktops. but i doubt you want that. try lubuntu as a beginning.
[03:08] <SpudDogg> good.  it should work fine afterwards
[03:08] <Oobi> windows is like circumcision
[03:08] <Oobi> people just do it because everyone else does it
[03:08] <rww> Oobi: keep to support in this channel, thanks.
[03:08] <SpudDogg> lol
[03:08] <l1t> hooded knight reporting in
[03:08] <Oobi> where is the ubuntu lobby?
[03:08] <rww> !offtopic
[03:10] <phuh> k1l: i have a very limited memory vps instance and i'd like to run a java app based on Java Swing. Could I ask your advice on that?
[03:10] <phuh> will any window manager able to display java swing app?
[03:11] <k1l> phuh: see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/321924/how-do-i-configure-a-minimal-desktop-environment
[03:11] <k1l> i dont know what you java app needs to run
[03:11] <phuh> thank you k1l
[03:15] <alan_> Hello
[03:15] <wachin> Hi to all Ubuntu channel, I have a Logitech Wireless Touch Keyboard K400  but no working this command on a terminal: synclient LockedDrags=1
[03:15] <Guest64602> Hello
[03:15] <wachin> Some Us know how to make working
[03:16] <Guest64602> Hi, all my icons on the taskbar on the left hand side have disappeared and can't manage to get them back, anyone got suggestions?
[03:17] <changeguy> hey, has anyone any experiece with ubuntop for android?
[03:19] <Beldar> !touch | changeguy
[03:19] <changeguy> its not ubuntu touch, its ubuntop for motoral atrix
[03:20] <kicho> im newbie in linux
[03:21] <kicho> where can i find info
[03:21] <Beldar> changeguy, the touch channel covers it and an desktop image for android devices.
[03:21] <kicho> _-
[03:21] <SpudDogg> kicho: anything in particular?
[03:21] <SchrodingersScat> !info | kicho
[03:21] <kicho> commands
[03:21] <kicho> how to install
[03:21] <SchrodingersScat> huh, i was hoping that would do something else.
[03:21] <julianofischer> kicho: www.ubuntu.com www.ubuntuforums.com
[03:21] <changeguy> Beldar: what is the #touch chanel?
[03:21] <kicho> I download firefox, the last version, and I dont know how to install it
[03:22] <Beldar> changeguy: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch
[03:22] <kicho> i appreciate, its very helpull know that there are people to help the newbies
[03:22] <julianofischer> kicho: you can use the command chmod +x file
[03:22] <julianofischer> kicho: this will "make" your file executable
[03:23] <changeguy> could I install libreoffice on jaunty
[03:23] <Beldar> changeguy, If this is a computer that an ubuntu install can be put on this is the channel, if and android you want the other channel is all.
[03:23] <julianofischer> kicho: so you can execute it: ./file
[03:24] <kicho> im trying
[03:26] <julianofischer> kicho: ok
[03:27] <kicho> I got a message that can[t found the order
[03:27] <kicho> im on the directory download
[03:28] <kicho> Chmod +x firefox-27.0.tar.bz2
[03:29] <kicho> kicho@kicho-Inspiron-N5110:~/Descargas$ dir
[03:29] <kicho> ADI-comandos-linux.pdf	      firefox-27.0.tar.bz2     tutorial_18pag.pdf
[03:29] <kicho> Comandos\ basicos\ linux.pdf  Linux\ Dummies\ 9th.pdf
[03:29] <kicho> kicho@kicho-Inspiron-N5110:~/Descargas$ ^C
[03:29] <kicho> kicho@kicho-Inspiron-N5110:~/Descargas$ chmod +x
[03:29] <kicho> chmod: falta un operando después de «+x»
[03:29] <kicho> Pruebe «chmod --help» para más información.
[03:29] <kicho> kicho@kicho-Inspiron-N5110:~/Descargas$ Chmod +x firefox-27.0.tar.bz2
[03:29] <kicho> No se ha encontrado la orden «Chmod», quizás quiso decir:
[03:29] <kicho>  La orden «chmod» del paquete «coreutils» (main)
[03:29] <kicho> Chmod: no se encontró la orden
[03:29] <rww> kicho: don't paste into the channel. Use a pastebin like http://paste.ubuntu.com. Thanks :)
[03:29] <kicho> ok, sorry for my mistake
[03:30] <kicho> as I said Im newbie in this world
[03:30] <kicho> thnaks
[03:30] <julianofischer> kicho: you need to add the name of the file "chmod +x FILE"
[03:31] <guest_____> Is the 14.04 HWE stack available?
[03:33] <kicho> julianofischer: thanks for the help
[03:33] <Beldar> guest_____, #ubuntu+1 is the 14.04 channel
[03:34] <guest_____> Beldar - thanks.
[03:35] <julianofischer> kicho: =) you're welcome
[03:39] <changeguy> can I install libreoffice in jaunty
[03:39] <SonikkuAmerica> I told you already, changeguy...
[03:39] <SonikkuAmerica> !9.04 | changeguy
[03:40] <changeguy> there is an option to chroot debian and supposedly have access to thier full respority. would that work thorugh jaunty you think?
[03:40] <Beldar> changeguy, You have a android release, you are on the wrong channel, find a ubuntop link.
[03:40] <Emmamartina> CHOLBY RULES
[03:41] <SonikkuAmerica> The heck?
[03:41] <rww> SonikkuAmerica: hrm?
[03:41] <SonikkuAmerica> rww: I'll ask in #u-o
[03:43] <pixlgeek> Does the Ubiquity installer support RAID configurations in the partition manager yet?
[03:43] <pixlgeek> In 13.1?
[03:46] <treehouse> so, xterm seems obsolete. What do you use nowadays in a graphics environment when you want a terminal?
[03:46] <pixlgeek> "Terminal"
[03:46] <rww> treehouse: depends on which WM/DE I'm using
[03:46] <treehouse> seems so, xfce4-terminal
[03:52] <guest_____> Currently downloading the Saucy HWE. Need to free up some resources so my download may be a bit faster. BRB.
[03:52] <pixlgeek> Does the Ubiquity installer support RAID configurations in the partition manager  yet?
[03:54] <zykotick9> treehouse: i'm a fan of urxvt (aka rxvt-unicode) but it's very similar to xterm in many ways, only much better ;)  not for the faint of heart.
[03:58] <nightfly>  xfce4-terminal++
[03:58] <oobi> help
[03:59] <SpudDogg> oobi: sup?
[03:59] <Oog> i finally figured out why my syslog file is empty - because everything is going to syslog.1 ?!
[03:59] <oobi> how do i run minecraft.jar
[03:59] <SpudDogg> java -jar Minecraft.jar
[03:59] <Oog> and is the sshd user supposed to own syslog...? that seems odd
[04:00] <oobi> cou
[04:01] <cfhowlett> !minecraft
[04:07] <Oog> wait... syslog hasnt been logging since january 12...
[04:07] <Oog> that is what happened something is broken
[04:07] <Reliant> After choosing Ubuntu at Grub, all I get is the purple background and the computer just hangs. I've tried changing the /etc/default/grub to remove any graphical options, but nothing I've tried works
[04:09] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | Reliant
[04:10] <ka> i have xubuntu 12.10 and i dont know how to mark a file as an executable bit
[04:11] <ka> what would the command be
[04:11] <rww> chmod +x filename
[04:11] <SpudDogg> chmod +x FILE
[04:11] <Oog> i think it is related to this xcsonole thing...
[04:11] <ka> that command wont work
[04:12] <SpudDogg> error?
[04:12] <SpudDogg> probably a permissions issue
[04:12] <ka> idk how to fix it
[04:12] <SpudDogg> is there an error?
[04:12] <ka> idk
[04:12] <SpudDogg> also, what file?  complete path, please
[04:12] <ka> i have 12.10
[04:13] <ka> minecraft.jar
[04:13] <SpudDogg> you dont need that to be executable
[04:13] <SpudDogg> java -jar Minecraft.jar
[04:13] <SpudDogg> whats with all the minecraft questions tonight, i wonder
[04:13] <rww> better than crypto currency questions
[04:13] <ka> i have xubuntu
[04:13] <rww> minecrafters don't try to compile from source at least
[04:13] <SpudDogg> rww: lol i bet
[04:14] <SpudDogg> ka: it doesnt matter what version you're running.  if you have the minecraft jar and java installed, it should run
[04:16] <ka> javhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6894946/
[04:16] <ka> link
[04:16] <SpudDogg> 'java -jar /path/to/Minecraft.jar'
[04:17] <SpudDogg> ka: you just downloaded Minecraft.jar?  open a terminal and 'cd Downloads' then try 'java -jar Minecraft.jar'
[04:17] <oobi> how do you get root permission in files and folders
[04:17] <SpudDogg> oobi: sudo <command>
[04:18] <oobi> in the gui
[04:18] <SpudDogg> oobi: sudo nautilus
[04:18] <SpudDogg> oobi: i think, at least
[04:18] <rww> !gksudo
[04:18] <ka> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6894951/
[04:19] <ka> link
[04:19] <SpudDogg> ka:  walk me through the steps you've taken so far
[04:19] <user__> hello
[04:19] <user__> how to play videos in firefox
[04:19] <user__> ?
[04:20] <SpudDogg> user__: flash videos?
[04:20] <user__> SpudDogg: yep
[04:20] <SpudDogg> doesnt flash player come installed in ubuntu?
[04:20] <ka> ive downloaded and i tryed to mark as executable bit
[04:20] <cfhowlett> !flash|user__,
[04:20] <SpudDogg> ka: you dont need to make it executable
[04:20] <ka> yes i do
[04:20] <ka> i have xubuntu
[04:20] <SpudDogg> nope, you dont
[04:21] <SpudDogg> the version doesnt matter
[04:21] <viper_67> Hi ladies and gents, I'm trying to get the extra plugins for compiz on Ubuntu 13.10 . I had them on twelve but it seems the fire effect and all the extras are absent
[04:21] <Oog> rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="5.8.11" x-pid="2676" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] rsyslogd was HUPed
[04:21] <SpudDogg> ka:  in your pastes, please include the command you're running
[04:21] <ka> i alredy tried to and it said to mark as executable bit
[04:21] <ka> i did
[04:21] <SpudDogg> all you posted was the error
[04:22] <ka> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6894967/
[04:22] <viper_67> anyone know if you can get the extra compiz plugins on ubuntu 13.10
[04:22] <cfhowlett> !compiz\viper_67,
[04:23] <cfhowlett> !compiz|viper_67,
[04:23] <ka> wtf what do i do
[04:23] <SpudDogg> ka:  the path is incorrect.  'java -jar /home/karen/Downloads/Minecraft.jar
[04:23] <ka> oh ok
[04:23] <cfhowlett> !language|ka
[04:23] <SpudDogg> ka:  and capitalization matters
[04:23] <ka> i used an acronam
[04:24] <rww> (it still counts)
[04:24] <ka> acronym
[04:24] <ka> what 5 year old do you know that uses xchat
[04:24] <SpudDogg> ka:  you could also just 'java -jar ~/Downloads/Minecraft.jar'
[04:25] <rww> ka: it's not about people's ages, it's about what level of discussion we want in here
[04:25] <ka> oh ok
[04:25] <cfhowlett> ka  the rules are for everyone - even you
[04:25] <michabo> is anybody here who runs compiz in gnome 3
[04:25] <cfhowlett> !anyone|michabo,
[04:26] <michabo> How to run compiz in gnome 3
[04:26] <Tengis> Is there any reason not to run a gui on ubuntu server?
[04:27] <SpudDogg> Tengis: yes, it's unecessary overhead
[04:27] <Tengis> It takes up minimal resources with lubuntu desktop environment
[04:27] <rww> the more you have running, the more potential security issues you have
[04:27] <SpudDogg> Tengis: also the more stuff you have running the more (potentially) vulnerable the system is
[04:27] <SpudDogg> rww: grr
[04:27] <SpudDogg> rww: stop typing faster than me
[04:27] <SpudDogg> rww: :)
[04:28] <Tengis> I just hate command line text editors and command line file transfers
[04:28] <rww> then hopefully you keep packages up to date and aren't running anything important
[04:28] <SpudDogg> Tengis: once you learn vi, you'll hate and never use a gui text editor again
[04:29] <rww> not really true, I use both vim and kate a lot
[04:29] <SpudDogg> never never means never
[04:29] <Tengis>  I have a hard time justifying ubuntu for my nas anyway. Config takes four times as long
[04:29] <SpudDogg> Tengis: 4 times as long as what?
[04:29] <Tengis> I've been fighting issues with my drives spinning down for weeks
[04:30] <Tengis> I screwed around with windows7 on a spare drive and set up my snapraid and shares in 20 minutes and everything including my drives worked perfect
[04:30] <SpudDogg> i've had similar issues with ubuntu (specifically server) in the past.  if its a server, i suggest straight debian
[04:31] <michabo> please tell me ubottu what means !gq, and !poll
[04:31] <SpudDogg> (or freebsd, but thats another conversation)
[04:31] <rww> ubottu: gq
[04:31] <rww> ubottu: poll
[04:32] <ka> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6894980/
[04:32] <Tengis> Something in Ubuntu keeps hdparm from doing what it is suppose to be doing
[04:32] <SpudDogg> ka: use this:  'java -jar ~/Downloads/Minecraft.jar'
[04:33] <SpudDogg> ka:  assuming you downloaded Minecraft.jar to your home folder's Download folder
[04:33] <michabo> i am not here to read all the stuff you know i am here to ask questions
[04:37] <michabo> is any one her who answer a simple question like who knows how to run compiz in gnome 3
[04:37] <rww> you don't
[04:40] <changeguy> can someone explain backports to me? Can I install a newer application thorugh the use of backports? Say libreoffice in jaunty?
[04:40] <rww> changeguy: jaunty is still not supported here
[04:40] <changeguy> is that the purpose of backports in general though?
[04:41] <rww> ubottu: backports
[04:42] <michabo> for ubottu Habt Ihr gerade niemanden zur Hand werdet Ihr bald feststellen, dass es eine Vielzahl von Möglichkeiten gibt andere Linux-Benutzer über das Netz zu kontaktieren und Ihr auch auf diese Weise schnell Antworten auf Eure Fragen bekommen könnt.
[04:42] <michabo> So gibt es eine Vielzahl von Foren, Community-Websites und Chats in denen sich Linux User tummeln, und deren Benutzer Euch gerne weiterhelfen werden. Geratet Ihr mal an Jemanden der Euch ein RTFM an den Kopf werft, ignoriert Ihn und sonnt Euch in dem Wissen, dass Er/Sie vom wahren Linux-Weg abgekommen ist, da er/sie den Gemeinschaftscharakter von Linux verkennt.
[04:43] <linux_> hi
[04:43] <hewhomust> hi
[04:43] <linux_> how r u?
[04:44] <hewhomust> good
[04:44] <linux_> i'm good too
[04:45] <linux_> here is 8:14' morning,
[04:45] <tr3y> How can I fix the "this plugin only works on the desktop" error in chromium?
[04:45] <tr3y> I think it's a flash error...
[04:45] <changeguy> if I run debian chrooted under ubuntu, does the debian have full access to the hardware or is it like "virtualition"
[04:46] <daftykins> changeguy: it's not virt, it's chroot ;)
[04:46] <changeguy> daftykins: so does it run just as fast
[04:47] <changeguy> or is there a "layer"
[04:47] <mjoseph_> hello all
[04:48] <mjoseph_> Can anyone here help me out with upgrading to Grub2 on 10.04 ?
[04:48] <mrbogus> emacs is not include in ubuntu default package?
[04:48] <hewhomust> why are you using 10.04 eol
[04:48] <cfhowlett> !eol|mjoseph_,
[04:48] <mjoseph_> Sorry I meant 12.04....  argh
[04:49] <mjoseph_> In my defense, it's late here.  :D
[04:49] <hewhomust>  mrbogus sudo apt-get install emacs24
[04:49] <mrbogus> hwhomust: thanks
[04:50] <hewhomust> np
[04:51] <phuh> how do you switch a window manager to another when you have multiple installed on a machine?
[04:51] <hewhomust> phun log out and there should be a unity icon you can then choose what wm to use
[04:51] <phuh> hewhomust: i installed it on a ubuntu server and i tried reboot but i'm stuck with the first one i installed
[04:52] <Aussie_matt> hi all: I have an old IDE drive Im trying to get my data off: It was from a 486DX with ms dos 6.2 and win 3.11...what format would this disk be in?
[04:52] <tr3y> Anyone ran into the "this plugin only works on the desktop" error in chromium?
[04:53] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, ntfs I would guess
[04:53] <mjoseph_> So... Correction: Can anyone here help me out with upgrading to Grub2 on 12.04 ?
[04:53] <hewhomust> sudo fdisk -l
[04:53] <Aussie_matt> cfhowlett: I thought ntfs was a xp thing
[04:53] <cfhowlett> !anyone|tr3y,
[04:53] <SpudDogg> Aussie_matt: its gonna be fat, likely
[04:53] <cfhowlett> Aussie_matt, you might be right ....
[04:54] <Aussie_matt> hewhomust: fdisk -l gives a input output error
[04:54] <zykotick9> cfhowlett: dos is incapable of using ntfs - that was introduced with NT
[04:54] <cfhowlett> zykotick9, and now everyone knows I'm an old neckbeard ...
[04:54] <michabo> ok last try , can anyone help me to use compiz in gnome 3
[04:54] <Aussie_matt> SpudDogg: any way I can check if fat is enabled on my system? or it's just part of the kernel these days?
[04:55] <SpudDogg> Aussie_matt: honestly i have no idea.  i would imagine it's supported
[04:55] <tr3y> Okay... I tried to run the "WorkFlowy" app in Chromium and in the help section it tries to play a video. It appears broken and when I mouse over it, it says "This plug in only works on the desktop." It appears to be flash. Does anyone know of a wayt o make this play in chromium?
[04:55] <changeguy> assuming I'm stuck on Jaunty, would it be better to use chroot debian or try to use backports?
[04:55] <hewhomust> do you have flash try3?
[04:56] <tr3y> yes I have the adobe flash plugin from the software center
[04:56] <hewhomust> changeguy no backports for it, the best thing would be to backup the data and reinstall
[04:57] <changeguy> hewhomust: im stuck on this version, running on an android phone via webtop
[04:58] <Guest93547> How do I set up a virtual machine to bypass the vpn on the host machine it is running in so that all the host's traffic remains on tun1 and all of the virtual machine remains on wlan0/1?
[04:58] <Bashing-om> changeguy: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades fot the howto.
[04:58] <Bashing-om> *for
[04:59] <daftykins> changeguy: i don't think you really are using chroot right
[05:00] <changeguy> daftykins: im not using chroot currently. but there is an option to use a debian image in chroot to access updated files.
[05:00] <changeguy> daftykins: or I can install gentoo
[05:00] <mattkruse> harharhar
[05:00] <changeguy> apparently there isn't an updated ubuntu for this phone
[05:01] <mjoseph_> Can anyone here me out with upgrading to Grub2 on 12.04 ?  I tried following these instructions, but I don't get the prompt indicated in Step 2.1... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading
[05:01] <Guest93547> mjoseph_, Why do you want to upgrade to Grub2?
[05:02] <mjoseph_> Guest93547, because legacy grub is supposedly no longer supported/updated, and grub2 is purtier?  :)
[05:02] <daftykins> changeguy: i don't really get the device you're using but i definitely don't think it's supported
[05:03] <Beldar> mjoseph_, what release are you running?
[05:03] <michabo> ok, god bye everybody and this is for for UBOTTU have a nice day by reading your books...
[05:04] <mrbogus> I'm installing 'Ubuntu restricted extras' it seems to stuck in Applying changes.
[05:04] <mrbogus> Would it take too long to apply changes?
[05:04] <mjoseph_> Beldar, 12.04 LTS
[05:04] <Guest93547> mjoseph_, That is not entirely the best reason to upgrade Grub.
[05:04] <cfhowlett> mrbogus, probably not stuck it just takes a while and the feedback is not the best
[05:04] <Beldar> mjoseph_, why would you have grub legacy?
[05:05] <mrbogus> cfhowlett, alright. I'l just have to wait. Thanks
[05:05] <mjoseph_> Beldar, Dunno man.  I just installed 12.04 the other day
[05:05] <Guest93547> mjoseph_, backup your partitions to a spare hdd before messing with Grub.
[05:05] <Beldar> mjoseph_, what does this show  sudo grub-install -v
[05:05] <Busybyeski> howdy folks!  if i'd like to install ubuntu over windows 7, but i don't have enough space around the house to backup my personal media, can i use windows/ubuntu install tools to partition out the good stuff before i reformat? what ought i use?
[05:05] <cfhowlett> mrbogus, I seem to recall it being about a 30 minute process on my slow china internet.  Pay attention to messages - you have to confirm the fonts and a couple other things
[05:06] <mjoseph_> Guest93547, I have full system image backups of my windoze partition.  :D
[05:06] <cfhowlett> !gparted|Busybyeski,
[05:06] <abuas> how to bypass or remove password on phpmyadmin
[05:06] <abuas> please support it
[05:06] <Busybyeski> cfhowlett: boot into live and partition before trying the install?
[05:06] <cfhowlett> Busybyeski, that is the usual method.  see the next link
[05:06] <cfhowlett> !install
[05:06] <mjoseph_> Beldar, it shoes 1.99-21ubuntu3.14
[05:06] <Guest93547> Busybyeski, Does Ubuntu's installer still support linking to the user folder on Windows when doing a duel boot?
[05:06] <abuas> *The problem is am have install phpmyadmin and am forget the password and username for login on phpmyadmin, am have remove it but still can't used to
[05:07] <abuas> any body can help me ?
[05:07] <Beldar> mjoseph_, That is grub 2 it comes with 12.04
[05:07] <cfhowlett> !patience|abuas,
[05:07] <Busybyeski> Gueest93547 i'm not sure i haven't taken a look at it at all. my stuff is a bit scattered outside of the user folder though
[05:07] <Busybyeski> Guest93547*
[05:07] <abuas> am have do it
[05:07] <mjoseph_> Beldar, really??  It looks totally different than when I was running 13.04...
[05:08] <mrbogus> cfhowlett: Where can I find those messages in Ubuntu Software Center?
[05:08] <Beldar> mjoseph_, each release may have versions of grub 2, there is a ppa for grub, ppa's are not inherently supported here though.
[05:08] <tr3y> Okay... I tried to run the "WorkFlowy" app in Chromium and in the help section it tries to play a video. It appears broken and when I mouse over it, it says "This plug in only works on the desktop." It appears to be flash. Does anyone know of a wayt o make this play in chromium? and I do have the adobe flash plugin for chromium4
[05:09] <cfhowlett> Busybyeski, in windows: defrag first
[05:09] <cfhowlett> mrbogus, I only install with terminal :)  just watch your sytem.
[05:09] <mjoseph_> Beldar, ok thanks...  Never mind I guess.  :)   Have some Tang, I'll buy.  :D
[05:10] <Guest93547> Busybyeski, windows has partitioning tools
[05:10] <Y2KVet> Is there a program to display uptime somewhere unobtrusive on the screen, continually updating?
[05:10] <mrbogus> cfhowlett, Oh, I see. I'd installed in terminal instead but I've started anyway
[05:11] <Busybyeski> Guest93547: built-in? where to find?
[05:11] <cfhowlett> mrbogus, go have coffee.  it'll be a while
[05:11] <hewhomust> Y2KVet: conky does it
[05:11] <mjoseph_> hey Beldar, just curious... if I have Grub2 already, then why did it download/install sumthin when I did apt-get install grub2?
[05:12] <mjoseph_> and apt-get install grub-pc
[05:12] <Guest93547> Busybyeski, It is part of the Windows system tools. I am unfamiliar with the terminology of the tool but, it can be found through standard windows desktop search. Try the word partition on the start menu search.
[05:13] <Beldar> mjoseph_, you started with 10.04, than told me 12.04, bothe have grub 2 as part of there install. To have grub legacy you would have to be using Jaunty. Your computer shows grub 2. T answer I would need more info really.
[05:13] <Y2KVet> hewhomust: Thanks!
[05:13] <Beldar> To*
[05:14] <digitaldefector> I want to buy a hd webcam (used). How can I tell before hand if it will work in Ubuntu
[05:14] <Beldar> mjoseph_, Jaunty or you installed grub legacy, or reverted to it.
[05:14] <cfhowlett> !hardware|digitaldefector, see the list
[05:14] <cfhowlett> !webcam
[05:14] <mjoseph_> Beldar, yeah I dunno why I said 10.04 before, sorry for the confusion.  I definitely did a fresh install of 12.04
[05:15] <mrbogus> cfhowlett, when I get disconnected from the during the 'Applying changes' state in Ubuntu Software Center, Would I start over again?
[05:15] <Beldar> mjoseph_, The grub in each later release generally is a later build, you can get all that in the grub ppa, I use it with no problems, however I know grub pretty well.
[05:15] <K`zan> Hi Folks, trying to get a second monitor where I want it, but it appears, using the nvidia control panel, that it wants to write to xorg.conf, but I don't have permissions to be able to do so.  Run it as root (sudo)?
[05:15] <mjoseph_> Oh, you know what I'm thinkin I did...  I think when I was on 13.04 I used Grub Customizer to tweak the appearance.  That's why it looks so crappy right now.
[05:16] <Beldar> heh, I see. ;)
[05:16] <cfhowlett> mrbogus, no.  if all downloads are completed, you might need to run a terminal command to complete the configurations though
[05:16] <Guest93547> How do I set up a virtual machine to bypass the vpn on the host machine it is running in so that all the host's traffic remains on tun1 and all of the virtual machine remains on wlan0/1?
[05:16] <mjoseph_> Ok, well thanks for the help.  Gonna go mess with stuff and try not to break nuttin.
[05:16] <K`zan> I really do not want to screw up X :-).
[05:16] <mrbogus> cfhowlett, what command?
[05:16] <cfhowlett> Guest93547, ask in #vbox
[05:17] <wizard_A> i already have a partitioned hard disk with 1Gb boot area , 16Gb swap, and rest the / dir. Now i want some space for ntfs patition to install win8. within the / dir i have some data. if i rerun the ubuntu server installation and create a ntfs partition from the end point of hdd, will my data be there ar will it be lost?
[05:17] <Beldar> mjoseph_, No prob, tweak it till you break it my motto.
[05:17] <Beldar> is*
[05:17] <K`zan> Interrupt, disregard, will be back later.
[05:17] <digitaldefector> cfhowlett, wow :) thank-you!
[05:17] <cfhowlett> mrbogus, sudo dpkg -i --configure I think.  Your system should display the correct one with error message
[05:18] <mrbogus> cfhowlett, Thank you. I'll check it out!
[05:25] <aleb> Hi, what other app can I use besides "sniff" to browse an app's UI elements?
[05:30] <tr3y> Okay... I tried to run the "WorkFlowy" app in Chromium and in the help section it tries to play a video. It appears broken and when I mouse over it, it says "This plug in only works on the desktop." It appears to be flash. Does anyone know of a wayt o make this play in chromium? and I do have the adobe flash plugin for chromium4
[05:35] <thumbee> anyone know why i get "E: Unable to locate package flume-ng" when i apt-get install flume-ng ? and yes ive tried "sudo apt-get update" already
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> !info flume-ng
[05:36] <thumbee> !info saucy
[05:36] <thumbee> !help saucy
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> thumbee: what does this package do exactly?
[05:37] <thumbee> its "apache flume". its used to download data such as from twitter
[05:37] <UserError> what are the actual minimum system requirements for ubuntu 14.04LTS, server, minimal, and desktop versions?
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> thumbee: did you try software centre?
[05:37] <cfhowlett> !trusty|UserError,
[05:38] <thumbee> no. not too familiar with that that is. im a beginner :P
[05:39] <UserError> Ok fine, what are the system requirements for minimal, server, and desktop for ubuntu 13.10, the actual minimum.
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> thumbee: maybe take a look at the apacke flume's website (download  section)
[05:39] <BananaNipples> hey guys, can anyone help me out? im kind of new to ubuntu and i want to have gnome as my gui. i have ubuntu 13.10, how would i go about doing this?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-shell | BananaNipples
[05:41] <ka> #xubuntu-offtopic
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu-gnome | BananaNipples
[05:42] <thumbee> lotuspsychje: i tried downloading the flume bin.tar.gz and extracted it (tar -xzvf). i then found in the file "flume-ng" in folder: flume/bin/ .  if i run this "flume-ng".. is that the same as "apt-get install ..."?
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> UserError: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[05:42] <ka> #xubuntu
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> thumbee: not sure mate, maybe the #httpd guys might set you on the right track with flume?
[05:44] <thumbee> hmm. but in general. if u download a package and find an executable file in it. is that in general the same as running the "apt-get install" ?
[05:44] <BananaNipples> but would i have to uninstall my ubuntu and reinstall the ubuntu gnome?
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> !deb | thumbee
[05:44] <thumbee> if i cant make that generalization
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> BananaNipples: you can install gnome, lubuntu,xubuntu from your existing install, logout to unity and re-login to gnome
[05:45] <UserError> lotuspsychje, thank you but that wiki is horribly outdated.
[05:45] <reecey> What would be the best recommended way to go about partitioning a drive with win vista already installed? Im using a live usb drive currently and would like to install ubuntu however using the built in partitioner durring install is proving to be difficult for me to operate. I cant seem to "split" the existing partition that windows is on. Any suggestions?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | reecey
[05:46] <reecey> Oh wow, thanks a lot lotuspsychje
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> UserError: system requierments are very relative to your specific machine...
[05:47] <reecey> I can use apt-get to get gparted? or its installed already ?
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> UserError: best way is to experience ubuntu on the spefici machine to see how it runs
[05:47] <UserError> Look at the edit times for those requirements. No edition they are talking about is currently supported.
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> reecey: sudo apt-get install gparted
[05:47] <reecey> Thanks a lot lotuspsychje .
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> reecey: sudo gparted (after install)
[05:47] <reecey> I would just burn the existing drive and load a complete ubuntu install but i need windows for work.
[05:48] <reecey> ok. Thank you lotuspsychje
[05:51] <reecey> Any suggestions to pick up term commands? Like a good noob linux or ubuntu guide?
[05:52] <Seven_Six_Two> reecey, search online for gnu bash guide
[05:52] <cfhowlett> reecey, "linux command line" is a free download
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> !bash | reecey
[05:53] <Seven_Six_Two> reecey http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/Bash-Beginners-Guide.pdf
[05:53] <reecey> awesome guys. Thanks a lot for the help.
[05:53] <reecey> I love the bot :
[05:54] <reecey> :)
[05:54] <K`zan> Done and back:
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> reecey: ubuntu will ens you w8 nightmare, welcome to a new experience
[05:54] <K`zan> I really do not want to screw up X :-).
[05:54] <K`zan> Hi Folks, trying to get a second monitor where I want it, but it appears, using the nvidia control panel, that it wants to write to xorg.conf, but I don't have permissions to be able to do so.  Run it as root (sudo)?
[05:55] <reecey> I agree lotuspsychje . Im already loving it.
[05:55] <reecey> Thanks:)
[05:55] <Seven_Six_Two> K`zan, you can apply some settings without saving.
[05:56] <unstable> Every reboot, my mouse settings change where the touch pad turns back on.
[05:57] <K`zan> Seven_Six_Two: I tried that but it still leaves the 19" monitor on the left with all the panels, etc. to the right of the main screen which is, other than the background image, blank.
[05:57] <unstable> but I want it to be turned off, so I only use the nub
[05:57] <unstable> How can I keep it off permanently?
[05:57] <unstable> even after reboot
[05:58] <Seven_Six_Two> K`zan, you made the other screen primary?
[05:58] <K`zan> Seven_Six_Two: Also doesn't seem to preserve the changes over a reboot.
[05:58] <unstable> nevermind, I found the fix. The bug is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gpointing-device-settings/+bug/489830 ; The fix is to use dconf-editor directly
[05:58] <Seven_Six_Two> K`zan, that's right. you need to be able to write to xorg.conf
[05:59] <K`zan> Seven_Six_Two: No place, that I see to designate it as primary.
[05:59] <K`zan> Seven_Six_Two: OK, sudo it, I just didn't want to hose X :-), already backed up the original xorg.conf.
[05:59] <Busybyeski> how can i ssh into a vm? it doesn't show on the dhcp table in my router?
[06:01] <reecey> whats the trick to finding my network drives connected to windows pc on my network?
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> !samba | reecey
[06:01] <Seven_Six_Two> in nvidia-settings, second option (X Server Display Configuration) select the monitor and then put a check in the box beside "Make this the primary monitor..."
[06:01] <reecey> lol, thanks again lotuspsychje
[06:02] <reecey> You guys rock in there.
[06:02] <reecey> *here
[06:04] <proteneer_> can ubuntu's terminal print unicode?
[06:07] <j3f0> hi :D
[06:12] <Ubuntu1> can I  encrypt after install without loosing or should I do backup and reinstall ?
[06:12] <rww> It's possible. It's difficult, and I don't think there are decent instructions for it on Ubuntu.
[06:12] <cfhowlett> !encrypt|Ubuntu1,
[06:12] <cfhowlett> Ubuntu1, you don't need to reinstall
[06:12] <changeguy> is there a way I can unzip a .7z file
[06:12] <rww> oh, I guess you could do per-directory encryption, if you think that's not silly
[06:12] <changeguy> through ubuntu
[06:13] <jordanm> changeguy: yes, install and use 7z
[06:13] <changeguy> apt-get install 7z?
[06:14] <jordanm> changeguy: p7zip is the package name, 7z is the command
[06:14] <jordanm> changeguy: apt-file search bin/7z in the future to find packages that contain a command
[06:14] <host> i want help
[06:14] <host> :(
[06:14] <cfhowlett> !ask|host
[06:16] <Ubuntu1> im using 12.04.3  ( for encryption) for those that posted .  whent so fast I could not read
[06:35] <ompal1> can anyone tell me advanced bash shell scripting videos link
[06:35] <jordanm> video?
[06:36] <jordanm> ompal1: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[06:48] <ompal1> jordanm: thanks man
[06:50] <jordanm> ompal1: np
[07:10] <obsidian> I'm thinking about trying out a new lightweight Window Manager. Any advice or recommendations as far as Xcfe & LXDE go? Also, is it easy to revert back to Unity if I choose?
[07:10] <cfhowlett> obsidian, it's easy to revert.
[07:11] <obsidian> Do you basically just install the environments from the software center, or ...?
[07:11] <systadmni> I like xcfe
[07:12] <cfhowlett> obsidian, apt-get intall lxde xfce4 will grab both of them.  then logout, switch DE and login
[07:12] <obsidian> Awesome .. ok, is "switch DE" something that will automatically appear when I boot up?
[07:13] <cfhowlett> obsidian, when you logout, click on the ubuntu gear icon for your login options
[07:14] <obsidian> cfhowlett, thanks. I'm gonna give this a shot, be right back ..
[07:15] <obsidian> Just to confirm, :~$ sudo apt-get install lxde && sudo apt-get install xfce4
[07:15] <obsidian> ?
[07:15] <cfhowlett> obsidian, you can do it with one: sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4
[07:16] <obsidian> Ok, great! I'm gonna give it try.. be right back!
[07:16] <obsidian> Btw thanks, cfhowlett!
[07:16] <cfhowlett> :0
[07:26] <Al3xG0> I have a quite advantageous hardware-500gb ssd 32gb memory i7..  I want to know this swap partition works on my hardware? or is there something more innovative
[07:27] <cfhowlett> !swap|Al3xG0,
[07:29] <obsidian> Ok. Using Xfce - it's ridiculously fast, but ridiculously similar to MS Windows
[07:29] <obsidian> even the icons ::puke::
[07:29] <obsidian> gonna try LXDE
[07:29] <obsidian> Btw thanks again cfhowlett
[07:29] <obsidian> Brb
[07:34] <Nothing_Much> Is there any way to speed up Unity on a Radeon Xpress 200? Ubuntu 13.10 with Unity interface
[07:35] <cfhowlett> Nothing_Much, more ram?
[07:35] <Nothing_Much> cfhowlett: I have 2GB :(
[07:35] <Nothing_Much> DDR2
[07:36] <obsidian> Ok. Tried them all (including GNOME flashback, Metacity)
[07:36] <cfhowlett> Nothing_Much, unity is a resource hog.  2 gigs is pretty small considering the workload.  perhaps try lxde or xfce4 desktop environments?
[07:36] <obsidian> I think I like Unity.
[07:36] <cfhowlett> obsidian, choice is good
[07:37] <Nothing_Much> cfhowlett: Aw man, I love Unity
[07:37] <Nothing_Much> It's up there with Gnome 3, can't get enough of them
[07:37] <obsidian> cfhowlett- yeah think I Unity the best of them all
[07:37] <cfhowlett> Nothing_Much, then ram upgrade ...
[07:37] <Nothing_Much> I honestly was getting sick of XFCE
[07:37] <obsidian> think I like Unity*
[07:37] <Nothing_Much> oh man
[07:38] <Nothing_Much> I hope the max for this motherboard isn't 2gb..
[07:38] <obsidian> Nothing_Much- XFCE was alright but it looked suspiciously like Windows
[07:38] <jackyalcine> KDE looks great
[07:38] <jackyalcine> D:
[07:38] <obsidian> I just tried it along with LXDE
[07:38] <Nothing_Much> obsidian: It's pretty much everything that hippie- Let's take it to #ubuntu-offtopic guys
[07:39] <Nothing_Much> But yeah, I've been havin' nothin' but problems recently
[07:39] <obsidian> With Unity?
[07:39] <obsidian> or KDE?
[07:39] <Nothing_Much> Was hoping to see if someone could get compiz to be as lightweight as possible
[07:39] <Nothing_Much> obsidian: Nah, just in general, Unity was the last of my problems
[07:39] <Nothing_Much> Sorta
[07:39] <Nothing_Much> I had to reinstall since the top right corner of the applets weren't showing up
[07:40] <Nothing_Much> No matter how many times I would --purge and then reinstall :/
[07:40] <obsidian> Nothing_Much: I see.
[07:40] <Nothing_Much> So yeah, whatever you do, don't remove all of the X/L/Kubuntu stuff without doing research first
[07:40] <obsidian> Sounds like a problem with the way X is drawing your windows?
[07:40] <Nothing_Much> Because right after I got rid of Xubuntu's stuff and xfce stuff, the applets and global menu wouldn't work
[07:40] <cfhowlett> agreed ^^^
[07:41] <Nothing_Much> Nope, nothin' wrong with Xorg
[07:41] <msgol> damdidam! :) HI
[07:41] <obsidian> cfhowlett, Nothing_Much; what's the safest way to remove the DE's I just installed?
[07:42] <Nothing_Much> Hang on, Beldar linked me something a while ago
[07:42] <Nothing_Much> But I can't find it
[07:42] <obsidian> Or, is there no 'safe' way?
[07:42] <cfhowlett> obsidian, very carefully - sudo apt-get remove xfce4 --purge
[07:42] <Nothing_Much> It's not only that
[07:42] <obsidian> Ok .. ?
[07:42] <Nothing_Much> I wanted all the junk from XFCE off
[07:42] <Nothing_Much> Yeah
[07:42] <obsidian> Ok
[07:43] <obsidian> Let me switch back to Unity first .. brb
[07:45] <obsidian> What was that command again? :~$ sudo apt-get purge* xfce4
[07:45] <obsidian> ?
[07:45] <cfhowlett> obsidian, sudo apt-get remove xfce4 --purge
[07:46] <obsidian> cfhowlett- thanks
[07:48] <FreewheelinFrank>  I can't find a Citrix client to run off Ubuntu 13.10. Anyone have a suggestion?
[07:48] <cfhowlett> !citrix
[07:51] <obsidian> Here's a question for you guys: do you know (off the top of your head) how to change the resolution of the login screen?
[07:51] <msgol> yup you need to edit /etc/default/grub
[07:51] <obsidian> Ok.. ?
[07:51] <msgol> there is a value there under 1 sec
[07:51] <obsidian> ~$ sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[07:52] <msgol> grub_gfxmode
[07:52] <msgol>  set it to what your pc can support
[07:52] <obsidian> grub_gfxmode
[07:52] <obsidian> don't see it
[07:53] <msgol> hmm..
[07:53] <obsidian> GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[07:53] <obsidian> #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=10
[07:53] <obsidian> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=0
[07:53] <obsidian> GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
[07:53] <obsidian> GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
[07:53] <obsidian> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[07:53] <cfhowlett> !paste|obsidian,
[07:53] <obsidian> everything else is commented out
[07:53] <msgol> it should be commented
[07:54] <obsidian> msgol, ok let me have another look...
[07:54] <obsidian> cfhowlett, what do you mean !paste|obsidian
[07:54] <obsidian> ?
[07:55] <greeter> obsidian: read what ubottu said after he issued that command
[07:55] <msgol> be carefull as you can mess your grub and that will take you thru liveboot chroot and ... to fix it
[07:56] <msgol> when you are finished editing that file you should also do update-grub2 or grub
[07:57] <msgol> brb
[07:57] <obsidian> msgol, thnks but still not finding the GRUB_GFXMODE
[07:58] <obsidian> Ok, I went to http://paste.ubuntu.com now what?
[07:58] <obsidian> I pasted the code and it spit back each line ..
[07:58] <obsidian> Sorry guys I'm a little new at this but I'm a quick learner
[07:58] <VKB> obsidian: You're supposed to give us the link it gives you so we can see what you're getting
[07:59] <obsidian> Ahhh ...gotcha
[07:59] <obsidian> Here it is
[07:59] <obsidian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6895659/plain/
[07:59] <obsidian> These are the contents of my /etc/defaults/grub file
[08:00] <obsidian> No GRUB_GFXMODE
[08:00] <Gallomimia> hi. i'm just setting up empathy, and i'm noticing that the account settings are all in system settings...? how safe is that?
[08:01] <FreewheelinFrank> Still can't get Citrix installed
[08:01] <obsidian> Correction. Those are NOT the entire contents of my /etc/defaults/grub file rather just what I copied and pasted. Let me re-paste the *entire* contents (shouldn't be much) but unless I'm mistaken there's not GRUB_GFXMODE
[08:01] <obsidian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6895674/plain/
[08:01] <obsidian> There we are. The entire contents.
[08:01] <obsidian> Above^^
[08:02] <obsidian> Gallomimia, FreewheelinFrank, wish I could help. I'm just trying to get my login screen resolution setup.
[08:03] <psingh> Gallomimia, the accounts that you add there are unique to your login id.  A different user on your machine, with a different user id will have to setup his/her own accounts.
[08:03] <Gallomimia> and will other programs be able to read that information?
[08:03] <FreewheelinFrank> obsidian: not sure if can help
[08:03] <Gallomimia> i guess they likely would be able to anyway unless i use apparmor or something similar?
[08:04] <MikeJonn> Hey guys. Is it possible to associate another parent process to a running child-process?
[08:04] <obsidian> FreewheelinFrank: no biggie - just wondered if anyone knew off the top of their head how to change the login screen resolution
[08:04] <FreewheelinFrank> psingh: is it possible to access another users folder and prompted for password?
[08:05] <psingh> Gallomimia, you get to chose which applications can interact with those accounts from the Online Accounts dialog.  If you grant access, those applications will be able to use that account.
[08:06] <psingh> FreewheelinFrank, are you trying to restrict access to another user's home folder?
[08:07] <msgol> back, if its not there please write it at the end.
[08:07] <msgol> like GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 or any other which is suported
[08:10] <obsidian> msgol- supported modes .. ok, assuming the current resolution I use when I'm logged in is "supported" I just add this line of code GRUB_GFXMODE=MYxDESIREDxRESOLUTION and then :~$ sudo update-grub?
[08:11] <msgol> yes but
[08:11] <msgol> the supported resoution for that is a diffrent ball game
[08:11] <msgol> it bios something let me look that up
[08:12] <obsidian> Ok.
[08:12] <obsidian> Thanks btw.
[08:14] <msgol> np. go for apt-get install hwinfo
[08:14] <msgol> use sudo
[08:14] <msgol> then hwinfo --framebuffer
[08:14] <xar-> what package is pfHandle located in?
[08:16] <obsidian> Alright. When I try to install 'hwinfo' I get this error
[08:16] <obsidian> Package hwinfo is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source.
[08:17] <msgol> k give me a sec there was another way
[08:18] <obsidian> I wouldn't say I'm savvy with the grub> prompt but I know how to access it, mount the kernel, and a few other basic commands
[08:22] <msgol> i was looking around there is no way around hwinfo it seems
[08:22] <obsidian> No biggie!
[08:23] <msgol> just go with the resoloution you want. it most likely iqnore your settings if its not supported.
[08:23] <obsidian> Thanks for looking. I just added GRUB_GFXMODE=3200x768
[08:23] <obsidian> Gonna restart and cross my fingers
[08:23] <msgol> i dont think thats supported
[08:23] <obsidian> Otherwise it's no biggie
[08:23] <obsidian> Ooops
[08:24] <msgol> what most hardwares only support 4:3
[08:24] <obsidian> msgol: I mean GRUB_GFXMODE=1300x768
[08:24] <msgol> go for 1280*800
[08:24] <msgol> if your monitor supports it
[08:25] <obsidian> 1280=960 is the closest 4:3 option
[08:25] <obsidian> I'll give [that] a try, reboot, and cross my fingers ..
[08:25] <msgol> best of luck!
[08:25] <obsidian> thanks!!
[08:26] <msgol> cheers!
[08:27] <obsidian> no luck...
[08:28] <obsidian> trying 1280x800
[08:29] <akurilin2> Quick question: say I have multiple versions of a command-line tool, how do I have the one under ~ supercede the global one under /usr/bin or something like tthat?
[08:29] <akurilin2> I tried to add the path to my local bashrc but that seems to be superceded
[08:29] <akurilin2> by the global tool
[08:30] <obsidian> Neither worked. Darn. Oh well ..
[08:30] <msgol> oh i found something new obsidian
[08:30] <obsidian> ...?
[08:30] <msgol> in the grub command. when you press C on grub enter vbeinfo
[08:30] <msgol> it gives you supported table
[08:30] <msgol> did you do update-grub2 after editing bTW
[08:31] <obsidian> no
[08:31] <obsidian> What is grub2?
[08:31] <msgol> both the same
[08:31] <obsidian> hmm
[08:31] <obsidian> so then ..
[08:31] <obsidian> user@localhost:~$ sudo update-grub2
[08:31] <obsidian> ?
[08:31] <msgol> yup
[08:31] <obsidian> ok
[08:31] <obsidian> Thanks.. will give it a shot
[08:32] <msgol> cheers ! k!
[08:32] <obsidian> brb
[08:33] <jackbrown> Does anyone knows how to launch an HTTP link on a remote pc through a working ssh access ?
[08:33] <msgol> the noob way (myway) whould be using elinks on ssh
[08:42] <obsidian> Ok, so here's the verdict: I typed "vbeinfo" into the grub> prompt and it didn't seem to recognize the command. There was, however, a similar command "videoinfo" that displayed a list of resolutions. I updated my /etc/default/grub file to reflect one of the "supported" resolutions per "videoinfo" (in GRUB) and then updated GRUB (sudo update-grub2) and here's what happened: the GRUB menu resolution definitely changed. Thank you! But
[08:42] <obsidian> the Ubuntu splash/loader and the login screen resolution is still huge which makes the Ubuntu logo and login text box extremely small. I wonder if there's a special Display Manager setting that will allow me to change the login resolution?
[08:42] <msgol> ahh you are on a good step
[08:43] <msgol> there was something about keep for tty to stay in that ress too 1 sec while i look it up
[08:43] <obsidian> Ok, thanks!
[08:43] <nikolam> how do I know what BTRFS subvolume is selected for boot, when both 'btrfs subvolume list /' and 'btrfs subvolume get-default' have exactly same output (12.10)
[08:45] <nikolam> Instead of making BTRFS snapshot, I made a subvolume. Does it include everything what current used subvolume had in it?
[08:47] <msgol> no problem, you need to add this to your grub file. its GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep
[08:48] <obsidian> msgol does it matter whether I edit it above or below the GRUB_GFXMODE=800x600 ?
[08:48] <msgol> i have mine under GFXMODE
[08:48] <nikolam> If I do 'btrfs subvolume set-default' how does boot loader knows what BTRFS subvolume to boot? or is it BTRFS itself on-disk that knows what subvolume is active and mounted on boot?
[08:48] <obsidian> msgol roger that. I'll give it a try ..
[08:48] <msgol> good luck!
[08:51] <obsidian> msgol, alright per your instructions, here's how my GRUB file looks :
[08:52] <obsidian> paste.ubuntu.com/6895862/plain/
[08:52] <obsidian> Cross your fingers for me? ..brb
[08:52] <fibz_> how do i find out what my IP address is when i am offline in xubuntu?
[08:52] <B1nzy> I have a rather complex problem that needs solving, namely I've managed to corrupt the /etc/passwd file on a remote machine. I still have IPMI access, however I cant mount iso's or the likes, so is there a way I can boot into a vanilla recovery and fix it?
[08:53] <B1nzy> If I just boot into normal recovery shell, it fails, because /etc/passwd is corrupted
[08:53] <fibz_> try opcrack
[08:53] <msgol_> yup all good!
[08:53] <obsidian> no luck :-(
[08:54] <hitsujiTMO> fibz_: what exactly do you mean by "offline"? ifconfig
[08:54] <msgol_> damn
[08:54] <msgol_> final try read this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2087827
[08:54]  * fibz_ facepalms
[08:55] <msgol_> post of  Anaximander Thales
[08:55] <obsidian> Is there something wrong with my GRUB file?
[08:55] <obsidian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6895877/plain/
[08:55] <hitsujiTMO> B1nzy: fix it from a live cd. also, don't nanually edit /etc/passwd    use the provided tools to safely manipulate it
[08:55] <msgol_> your grub file is ok
[08:55] <B1nzy> hitsujiTMO: Well yes I know that now
[08:56] <msgol_> did you update every time.
[08:56] <B1nzy> hitsujiTMO: issue is it's a remote box, so I can't just boot from a live cd
[08:56] <msgol_> and mine works like that
[08:56] <hitsujiTMO> B1nzy: is it managed by a provider?
[08:56] <obsidian> Yeah
[08:56] <B1nzy> hitsujiTMO: No
[08:56] <B1nzy> hitsujiTMO: hosted, but not managed
[08:57] <obsidian> Oh well. No big deal
[08:57] <obsidian> Thanks for all your help
[08:57] <obsidian> I gotta get some sleep
[08:57] <obsidian> I'll try again in the morning
[08:57] <msgol_> cheers!
[08:57] <hitsujiTMO> B1nzy: ok, you should have some sort of recovery iso to load from your control panel?
[08:57] <Guest96010> exit
[08:57] <Guest96010> quit
[08:57] <obsidian> g'nite!
[08:57] <msgol_> all the ebst of luck for you
[08:57] <msgol_> gnight
[08:57] <obsidian> msgol .. appreciate it
[08:57] <B1nzy> hitsujiTMO: Nope, sadly IPMI won't let me load or mount ISOs on 64bit Java
[08:57] <B1nzy> Or really at all on nix
[08:58] <B1nzy> Worst case I can find a windows machine and try IPMI w/ remote mount on that
[08:58] <xdotcommer> how do i delay x from starting on bootup in 14.04 server?
[08:58] <B1nzy> I was just hoping someone knows a way I can boot the linux vm without loading all the files/etc
[08:59] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | xdotcommer
[09:00] <xdotcommer> lal
[09:00] <xdotcommer> ok
[09:00] <xdotcommer> thanks
[09:00] <babinlonston> squid blocking websites after 1GB Download in eth1, any one help me pls
[09:00] <hitsujiTMO> B1nzy: if you can get access togrub you can break the options to get dropped to busybox
[09:00] <B1nzy> hitsujiTMO: Do you have a tutorial or docs on that?
[09:00] <B1nzy> Basically what I need
[09:02] <hitsujiTMO> B1nzy: look here under the rescue shell bit for the break=something param, https://wiki.debian.org/InitramfsDebug
[09:20] <Gallomimia> thank you for the informative answer psingh
[09:27] <anonymous__> hi
[09:28] <B1nzy> hitsujiTMO: Thanks man
[09:28] <B1nzy> I figured it out eventually
[09:28] <B1nzy> Had a weird leading byte in the file, used sed to cut it out
[09:28]  * B1nzy tips hat to hitsujiTMO 
[09:32] <justaguy> So, I have ubuntu 13.10 now but i prefer to reinstall and get  12.04 LTS, is there any way that i can just keep all files in /home/justaguy/ during the reinstall?
[09:32] <guest-uOGZXj> hello
[09:32] <justaguy> (a backup is possible too ofcourse, but reinstalling it without needing to transfer all my file backs would be sweet
[09:33] <Gallomimia> i don't believe downgrades are possible or supported with ease
[09:33] <bekks> Not having a backup means that you dont need to keep the files because the are not important.
[09:33] <Gallomimia> so, backups are probably best
[09:33] <hewhomust> justaguy its only possible if you installed a separate home partition
[09:33] <bekks> Have a backup.
[09:33] <Gallomimia> what bekks said
[09:33] <Gallomimia> which reminds me. i'd better make a backup soon
[09:33] <Snikt> Hi everybody. I'm a long time ubuntu user (50+ machines) but today one thing started to bug me so much I had to come and ask. Is there any keyboard shortcut to do same as apple+arrows do on mac? I mean if I have for example 20 terminal windows open and I want to switch to next or previous window on the same group
[09:34] <Seveas> Gallomimia: correct. It's possible but veryumuch nontrivial. I dare say I know my way around Ubuntu and it took me half a day to do a downgrade :)
[09:34] <Snikt> I know alt+§ or alt+' whatever its called but its way too clumsy
[09:35] <Gallomimia> i'd be interested in picking your brain then seveas cause i have had a lot of broken packages. apt-get doesn't seem to work properly anymore. most notable was wine1.6 and samba4 breaking and being unable to uninstall properly
[09:35] <gordonjcp> Snikt: alt-tab
[09:35] <Snikt> gordonjcp, it switches between windows
[09:35] <Gallomimia> but since i'm going to be reinstalling 13.10 anyway in the next few days on a new raid.... i'm not overly concerned
[09:35] <gordonjcp> Snikt: okay, then I don't understand the question
[09:36] <Snikt> and alt+§ between windows in a group
[09:36] <Seveas> Gallomimia: start with this: dpkg --configure -a ; apt-get -f install
[09:36] <Seveas> Gallomimia: that should at least tell you if apt is happy
[09:36] <Snikt> but I seriously need a quickkeys to navigate fast between windows on same group
[09:36] <gordonjcp> Snikt: what do you mean "in a group"?
[09:36] <Snikt> gordonjcp, if I have opened chrome, thunderbird and 3 console windows, all those 3 console windows are in same group
[09:37] <gordonjcp> Snikt: oh, alt-tab to the terminal and hold alt for half a second
[09:37] <Gallomimia> seveas no errors... seems alright for now then. i still get errors about broken packages and things held back when actually installing st uff
[09:37] <gordonjcp> it'll expand vertically and you can tab between terminals
[09:37] <varunendra> Snikt, what is the problem with alt+` ?
[09:37] <Snikt> yes but its superslow. even alt+§ is faster (its same as alt+tab but only grouped windows)
[09:38] <gordonjcp> varunendra: true
[09:38] <Seveas> Gallomimia: 'held back' means you need to do a dist-upgrade
[09:38] <Snikt> varunendra, its slowness. I dont need a themed switcher but simple quickkeys that I can use to switch to next and previous windows in a group
[09:38] <Seveas> Gallomimia: and pastebin an actual error when it happens, makes troubleshooting easier :)
[09:38] <Snikt> its not very useful when you have 20+ terminal windows open and they all look just same
[09:39] <Gallomimia> i should also mention i have kernel 3.12 installed and have yet to determine how and when apt-get will tell me if there's new ones
[09:39] <Snikt> I need something like ctrl-alt-arrow is for desktop. but just for windows
[09:39] <Seveas> Snikt: imagine life with 50 terminator windows, almost all of them split in mutliple shells. I spend 5-10 minutes a day just closing terminals when I go home after work :)
[09:39] <Ben64> Gallomimia: how did you install 3.12
[09:39] <Gallomimia> snikt yeah i have that problem myself. i'm considering finding a way to name some of the terminals for various purposes
[09:40] <Gallomimia> ben64 i grabbed the .deb's from kernel.ubuntu.com
[09:40] <Snikt> Seveas, yea. I usually have 20+ terminal windows and those all have hell load of screens
[09:40] <Seveas> Gallomimia: isn't there a PPA for that? That at least integrates a bit better with the normal update process
[09:40] <Ben64> Gallomimia: using that stops you from getting any kernel updates and any support in this channel
[09:41] <Snikt> Gallomimia, yea I named them earlier sometimes but its bad solution for real problem
[09:41] <Seveas> Ben64: don't be a sourpuss, he's using things provided by ubuntu devs...
[09:42] <Gallomimia> it was actually recommended to me from this channel. tho there was mention of it being unsupported
[09:42] <Ben64> it's not being a "sourpuss", it is not supported in this channel
[09:42] <Gallomimia> i'd be interested in finding a ppa for it. the reason was for better amd gpu support
[09:42] <Seveas> Gallomimia: "supported" is a loaded word. I don't think canonical offers support for them, and support in here is whatever people want to give you. Clearly Ben64 doesn't want to provide any, but I'm game.
[09:42] <varunendra> Snikt, have you tried Scale effect of Compiz with hot corners?
[09:43] <Gallomimia> well, i'd best head to bed anyway.....
[09:43] <Ben64> Seveas: thats nice, but you should find another channel, non-official packages are not on topic here
[09:43] <Guest37377> Since upgrading to Ubuntu Saucy my Terminal no longer has transparency.  Is there a way to restore that transparency?
[09:44] <varunendra> Snikt, I just move my pointer to upper right corner to arrange ALL open windows (on that workspace) and click on the one I want. Can't imaging anything easier and faster than that.
[09:44] <Gallomimia> one last question about a cp -R operation i have running right now. it seems to have choked on a korean file name from some korean language support in.... something... is that normal? i'll need to copy it manually later i guess
[09:44] <Seveas> Gallomimia: "choked" how?
[09:44] <Snikt> varunendra, that is probably pretty decent way to do it. I myself try to use mouse as less as possible because it slows down pretty much
[09:45] <Gallomimia> i dunno. it spat out an error message: cp: cannot stat '$filename' no such file or directory
[09:45] <Snikt> goddamn. I found proper settings from compizmanager
[09:45] <Seveas> then the file is not there anymore, might have been temporary :)
[09:45] <Gallomimia> there's at least 3 korean characters in the name
[09:45] <Ben64> Gallomimia: yeah, that happens with strange characters sometimes
[09:45] <Seveas> are you making a backup?
[09:45] <Snikt> just have to change window switcher into ring switcher
[09:45] <Seveas> if so, don't use cp, rsync is your friend :)
[09:45] <Gallomimia> i'm copying files from drive X to drive Y so i can erase drive X
[09:46] <Seveas> yeah, rsync is still your friend for that
[09:46] <Gallomimia> i think rsync is better yes, but i'm not very good with it
[09:46] <Seveas> if only because it does resuming a lot better
[09:46] <Seveas> rsync -av /path/to/src/ /path/to/dst/
[09:47] <Gallomimia> hm. you're right preserving uid's would probably be better in this case
[09:48] <Gallomimia> ah me likey -v
[09:48] <Seveas> you may like -n as well :)
[09:49] <bekks> And --progress :)
[09:49] <Gallomimia> both of these disks are normally used with my mac actually. different uid's
[09:49] <Seveas> boo, mac
[09:50] <Gallomimia> agreed. i'll be ditching mac osx soon.
[09:52] <Snikt> nevermind. ring selecter was awful
[09:53] <Orien> hi, what's the current status of 10.04 LTS, should we expect security updates?
[09:53] <Gallomimia> for server?
[09:53] <Orien> server
[09:54] <Gallomimia> yes
[09:54] <bekks> Orien: Supported for servers until 2015.
[09:54] <Orien> I ask because http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2013/CVE-2013-6393.html
[09:54] <Gallomimia> runs out of support next april. not this april
[09:54] <Guest37377> Hi is there a way to restore Transparency to Gnome Terminal after Ubuntu 13.10 upgrade/
[09:54] <bekks> Orien: That fix is included for a long time.
[09:54] <Guest37377> ?
[09:56] <Orien> bekks: so an up-to-date 10.04 shouldn't be vulnerable right?
[09:56] <Orien> bekks: (server)
[09:56] <Gallomimia> Guest37377: the transparency in terminal is under profiles > background
[09:57] <Gallomimia> right click your terminal and select profiles
[09:57] <Gallomimia> (not sure if this is the same as it was in 13.04)
[09:57] <Seveas> Orien:according to that page, 10.04 LTS did not receive a security update for that CVE
[09:58] <Seveas> Orien: so I guess that package was marked as 'desktop' and only received 3 years support
[09:58] <Seveas> Orien: to find per package support: apt-cache show packagename_goes_here | grep Supported
[09:58] <Orien> cheers Seveas
[09:59] <Guest37377> Yes I''ve checked there its been removed since I upgraded to 13.10
[09:59] <Guest37377> I've been seeing this online on the websites
[09:59] <Gallomimia> odd that. i'm on 13.10 and it's there for me
[09:59] <Guest37377> really?
[09:59] <Guest37377> hmmm
[09:59] <Gallomimia> yup. just checked before answering
[10:00] <Guest37377> I've got it with Guake just not with Saucy Gnome version
[10:00] <Gallomimia> oh. perhaps i'm not running gnome
[10:00] <Gallomimia> that must be what's different yes
[10:00] <Guest37377> right its gnome terminal
[10:00] <Guest37377> not unity
[10:01] <Orien> Seveas 'Supported: 5y'
[10:01] <Gallomimia> anyone know any good programs for finding duplicate files on a disk?
[10:01] <Orien> on package libyaml-0-2
[10:01] <Gallomimia> looks like i have a whole bunch of dirs duplicated in different areas on this volume i'm rsync'ing
[10:01] <nightfly> Gallomimia: fslink
[10:01] <Seveas> Orien: hmm, odd, that CVE page says the package was not updated due to end-of-life. Maybe file a bug?
[10:01] <nightfly> *fslint
[10:01] <Orien> Seveas strange not to get an update
[10:02] <LeMike1> Pardon this, but I don't get the right Keywords for it. I want to have a terminal appearing every morning/workday at 9:00 in my gnome shell executing one shell script I wrote. How do I do that?
[10:02] <Orien> Seveas could you point me in the appropriate direction?
[10:02] <Seveas> Gallomimia: fdupes
[10:03] <Gallomimia> nightfly: not finding such a program with google
[10:03] <Seveas> Orien: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[10:03] <Orien> thanks for your help Seveas, I'll get on that
[10:04] <Seveas> Gallomimia: also rdfind or duff (found with apt-cachesearch duplicate)
[10:04] <Gallomimia> what's the difference?
[10:04] <Gallomimia> the files in question, some are named exactly the same but i'd also like to do real file comparisons by size and so on
[10:04] <Seveas> dunno, I never used either :)
[10:04] <Gallomimia> reading the man for fdupes it looks like what i want
[10:05] <Seveas> I need to do so soon to consolidate a bunch of backups
[10:05] <Gallomimia> i've got a lot of data files. media, videos and stuff
[10:05] <Gallomimia> drastically disorganized :(
[10:05] <Gallomimia> this should help thanks
[10:05] <Seveas> I know the feeling :)
[10:06] <Seveas> I have backup inception: get new machine, back up onld machine onto it. Lather rinse repeat.
[10:06] <Gallomimia> i'm clearing the data from 2 2tb drives to join a third in raid5. bit of a job :/
[10:06] <Seveas> I think I was at 6 levels deep
[10:07] <LeMike1> is there any way having a crontab run an application on the current xserver like LibreOffice or open the terminal ?
[10:08] <Gallomimia> seveas i had so many extra hd's laying about that i didn't bother to buy any drives with this system
[10:08] <Gallomimia> tho i've since picked up a pair of SSD's for it. planning to use dm-cache for those tho
[10:09] <Seveas> LeMike1: try setting DISPLAY to the correct value in the crontab
[10:09] <Seveas> LeMike1: doesn't work for all applications though
[10:10] <LeMike1> oh okay. so prefix "env DISPLAY=:0" simple ^^ I guess I need some coffee
[10:12] <bekks> Seveas: It works for no application.
[10:12] <bekks> Seveas: The environment of jobs run by cron is not preserved at all, since they dont have an environment by default.
[10:13] <Gallomimia> cron jobs. the terribly difficult mess in my life
[10:13] <Gallomimia> i've been trying to write some cron jobs that pull code repos of choice to a local disk
[10:14] <Seveas> bekks: you don't know what you're talking about.
[10:14] <bekks> Seveas: I do know. Thank you.
[10:14] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: why does that need access to the xserver?
[10:14] <Gallomimia> it doesn't. but i still can't get it to run
[10:15] <Gallomimia> i've gotten a grand total of zero scripts to run properly under cron
[10:15] <Seveas> In the crontab you can define environment variables for cronjobs. Either the way LeMike1 said or by simply setting them. Setting $DISPLAY makes some X applications work, you may also need variables like the DBUS session address if your application uses that
[10:15] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: what type scm?
[10:15] <Seveas> but something as simple as loopy (from sgt-puzzles) pops up without a hitch
[10:15] <bekks> Seveas: You can define the environment for _cron jobs_ - and that environemnt is not preserved for anything else. Thats exactly what I said.
[10:16] <Gallomimia> usually they're git. important repos of note. you know... stuff like ogre, bitcoin...
[10:16] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: some things to know about cron, it has no environment, so no $PATH. It's running dash, not bash, but you can call bash scripts
[10:16] <Seveas> bekks: what the hell are you talking about? You set an environment for the cronjob, that's all that's needed.
[10:16] <Gallomimia> things with the hash bang of /bin/bash ?
[10:16] <Seveas> Seriously, try it, it works.
[10:16] <Seveas> DISPLAY=:0
[10:17] <Seveas> * * * * * /usr/games/loopy
[10:17] <Seveas> wait at most 1 minute, loopy pops up
[10:17] <bekks> Seveas: I never denied it will not work for cron jobs, I said it will not work to set an environment in cron whic is used by non-cron then. Read more, write less.
[10:18] <Seveas> bekks: oh shut up. We're talking about running X applications with cron jobs. I explained how to make that work, you said it won't work. But it does.
[10:18] <Gallomimia> geek fights at 0218 on a friday night :) fun times
[10:18] <bekks> Seveas: ignore set. I am not going to waste my time with people with your attitude.
[10:18] <Seveas> Gallomimia: I have ~30 servers dedicated to just running cron jobs :)
[10:19] <Seveas> bekks: pity. You might learn something :)
[10:19] <bekks> If you need to call people names, better take a break and go for a walk.
[10:19] <Gallomimia> walk? nowai. i'm going to bed
[10:19] <Seveas> Gallomimia: 'night
[10:19] <Gallomimia> 2tb copying over usb3. that'll be done in the morning right?
[10:20] <hitsujiTMO> Gallomimia: it should yes
[10:20] <Gallomimia> grand. g'night all. thanks for the wisdom
[10:21] <Seveas> hitsujiTMO: maybe not if the disk itself is slow? Too lazy to figure it out :)
[10:23] <hitsujiTMO> Seveas: ofc, but probability in that is in Gallomimia's favour
[10:24] <Seveas> and in 10 minutes time his computer goes into standby mode >:)
[10:34] <iras> hi
[10:34] <iras> maybe this is bug but eventually not and you may help me :)
[10:35] <knightshade> hi
[10:35] <iras> i'm running linux mint 16 (based on ubuntu 13.10)
[10:35] <hitsujiTMO> !mint | iras
[10:36] <iras> the problem is much deeper than the changes made from mint. it is kernel related
[10:36] <hitsujiTMO> iras: mint is not supported here at all. We know nothing of mint so we cannot help
[10:37] <hitsujiTMO> iras: if you believe its a general kernel issue then maybe ask for help in ##linux
[10:41] <impaktor_> how do I force apt-get to remove a package. I have a broken package, and apt-get keeps telling be to do a "-f install", but I'm out of inodes, so if always fails.
[10:42] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: remove it with dpkg
[10:42] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: altho, if you're out of inodes, i'd address that issue first
[10:42] <impaktor_> hitsujiTMO: dpkg won't start since I have a broken package.
[10:43] <impaktor_> hitsujiTMO: I don't see any obvious reason why I'm out. I have a lot of linux-headers-generic-pae packages though.
[10:43] <LeMike1> MEH. gnome-terminal as run from crontab wants me to enter the id_rsa keyword. can't I avoid this?
[10:44] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: are you running a mail server?
[10:44] <impaktor_> nope
[10:44] <impaktor_> it's pretty vanilla install.
[10:45] <bekks> free up space, then run apt-get -f install.
[10:45] <impaktor_> bekks: Problem is: it's the root space that needs freeing, so I need to find something in / to remove... like old packages or something.
[10:46] <bekks> sudo apt-get clean
[10:46] <Ben64> how did you manage to get 4,000,000,000 files in /
[10:47] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: can you pastebin the output of: df -h && df -i
[10:47] <bekks> you dont have that much inodes.
[10:48] <impaktor_> df -h tells me I have 2 GB left on "/" 79%, df -i tells me I'm using 99% of "/"
[10:48] <Tom1> is it necessary to install updates after installing ubuntu os?
[10:48] <bekks> impaktor_: run sudo du -shx /* please and pastebin it.
[10:49] <bekks> Tom1: If you want to.
[10:49] <hitsujiTMO> gief http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/coreutils.git/commit/?id=333dc83d now kkthnxbye
[10:49] <Tom1> bekks:is it really needed?
[10:49] <Dreaman> http://s18.postimg.org/qp9rqnx7t/2014_02_08_12_48_13.png
[10:49] <bekks> Tom1: If you want to get updates, yes.
[10:50] <Tom1> bekks: i mean i don;t want any updates, are updates really crirtical for system stability, like if i don;t install updates will my ubuntu os crash and won;t start?
[10:51] <hitsujiTMO> Tom1: the updates fix bugs and security issues
[10:51] <bekks> Tom1: yes they are vital.
[10:51] <bekks> Tom1: you want updates, in every use case.
[10:52] <Tom1> but in linux mint , i don;t do updates regularly and it still works, no problem
[10:53] <Tom1> and linux mint is based on ubuntu.
[10:53] <Ben64> "works" isn't the same as "no bugs" or "secure"
[10:53] <bekks> Then you are a very good target ror crackers.
[10:54] <bekks> Tom1: Its like running an unpatched XP on the internet. Pointless, insecure, just dont do it.
[10:54] <impaktor_> Is linux-header-generic-pae needed for anything? I only have 4 GB ram, so I don't see why it's installed.
[10:55] <Tom1> bekks: i agree, ur correct, but i am opposing updates, because they make my ubuntu installation very sluggish and slow.
[10:55] <Ben64> Tom1: that is simply not true
[10:55] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: thats you kernel
[10:55] <home-horim> hello, i want to transfer files from my galaxy 3 for backup purposes. what should i do? do i need a synchronization software for that? please help me determine what should i do for smart backuping
[10:56] <bekks> Tom1: Updates dont make a system slow - maybe on Mint, but not on Ubuntu.
[10:57] <impaktor_> hitsujiTMO: As I understand it that package is for managing large memory. I see i have it evreywhere in my /usr/src/linux-header
[10:57] <Ben64> impaktor_: please don't start going around deleting random things, thats a great way to break your system even more
[10:57] <bekks> impaktor_: PAE is needed to use > 4GB RAM on 32bit OS.
[10:57] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: no, it the kernel itself
[10:58] <bekks> impaktor_: /usr/src/linux-header contains the headers for the running kernel.
[10:58] <Tom1> bekks: is my hardware sufficient for ubuntu? 4 gb ddr3 ram, intel quad core cpu, 1 tb seagate hdd. is it ok?
[10:58] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: you simply have a kernel that has pae support
[10:58] <Ben64> Tom1: yes
[10:58] <Sysi> impaktor_: default kernel is nowdays pae, there isn't not-pae around anymore
[10:58] <bekks> Tom1: Thats plenty of hardware.
[10:58] <impaktor_> but I have to remove something, but all apt-get keeps telling me is I have a broken package, so I can't remove any package untill I fix the broken package.
[10:59] <Ben64> impaktor_: first you should figure out where all your inodes are being used. thats not a normal situation. deleting stuff from the root directory will never help apt-get
[10:59] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: you were asked a while ago to pastebin the output of: sudo du -shx /*                  please so so and we can help determine where the inode usage is happening
[11:00] <impaktor_> I'm not on that computer now, wait a while.
[11:00] <home-horim> anyone can help with my question?
[11:00] <technodict> how do i copy and paste files in my root folder ?
[11:01] <hitsujiTMO> technodict: you don't ... what exactly are you trying to do?
[11:01] <technodict> well i am trying to add files to a library folder
[11:02] <bekks> technodict: which files to which folders and why?
[11:02] <hitsujiTMO> home-horim: this is ubuntu support, not android support. try #android maybe
[11:02] <MASbro> my external usb hub external power supply supplies power to my ex hdd that isnt connected to the hub
[11:02] <technodict> and i need to copy some files from the other directory into /usr/share/arduino/
[11:02] <Tom1> bekks: one more querry i have.
[11:02] <hitsujiTMO> technodict: you must do so with sudo
[11:02] <technodict> i am using the gui
[11:03] <technodict> not good with cmd line
[11:03] <MASbro> my external usb hub external power supply supplies power to my ex hdd that isnt connected. does this happen to anyone else?
[11:03] <hitsujiTMO> technodict: not the best idea to use the gui as its very easy to make mistakes. but if you do need to, launch it with gksudo
[11:03] <technodict> how do i do that?
[11:04] <bekks> Tom1: Then just ask, instead of asking to ask. :)
[11:04] <moises> someone are getting problems waking up with a initiated virtualbox vm?
[11:04] <technodict> i am using xfce as i crashed my unity
[11:04] <bekks> moises: Maybe you?
[11:04] <home-horim> hitsujiTMO, i'm talking about transfering from galaxy to ubuntu,
[11:04] <impaktor_> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/fJsZyDD8
[11:04] <hitsujiTMO> home-horim: rsync
[11:04] <impaktor_> couldn't access some of the files.
[11:05] <impaktor_> in spite of sudo
[11:05] <hitsujiTMO> technodict: gksudo nautilus               or whatever file manager
[11:05] <figgycity50> !vbox
[11:05] <Tom1> bekks: i want to install ubuntu on a 32 gb pendrive permanently. and i want to use ext4 filesystem. but as we know ext4 is journaling filesystem which means it will give a lot of stress, and it also does a lot of read and writes to pendrive. which can shorten it life, is it true that ext4 can shorten the lifespan of flashdrives
[11:06] <moises> bekks yes :(
[11:06] <home-horim> hitsujiTMO, tnx
[11:06] <home-horim> really
[11:06] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: what distro is that?
[11:06] <impaktor_> ubuntu
[11:06] <impaktor_> 12.xx
[11:06] <bekks> Tom1: Using a non-journalled FS will be slow as hell. And pendrives are cheap.
[11:07] <bekks> !details | moises
[11:07] <figgycity50> Plus no defrag on journaling FS
[11:07] <Tom1> bekks: ext2 will be slower than ext4?
[11:07] <bekks> Tom1: Of course. MUCH slower.
[11:07] <figgycity50> Yeah
[11:07] <figgycity50> 2 gens out of date
[11:07] <k1l_> Tom1: still on the usb-install issue?
[11:07] <Tom1> bekks: i though ext2 would be faster since it does not do journaling?
[11:07] <moises> I used to use virtualbox for each site I develop (using vagrant, but I think it's out of ecuation here)
[11:07] <impaktor_> hitsujiTMO: did the pastebin look strange?
[11:07] <bekks> Tom1: Thats a totally wrong assumption.
[11:08] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: yes not used to seeing /selinux in ubuntu :)
[11:08] <k1l_> Tom1: do you know what journaling is?
[11:08] <Tom1> bekks: ok , thanks for clearing the doubt.
[11:09] <figgycity50> 32 gb is defiantly enough for ubuntu
[11:09] <impaktor_> fuck it, I'll reinstall it.
[11:09] <moises> If i suspend when I have a vm initiated, the wake up not work
[11:09] <Tom1> k1l_: i think in journaling system the data integrity is very good, ie like its very robust in case of improper shutdowns and powercuts.
[11:09] <figgycity50> Yeah
[11:09] <figgycity50> I think
[11:09] <home-horim> hitsujiTMO, do you mean lucky backup? becasue rsync is already installed and can't be opened because there is no way to find its icon
[11:10] <figgycity50> Flushing, thats what it is
[11:10] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: can you also pastebin the output of: df -i      so we can determine what directories are not part of root
[11:10] <hitsujiTMO> home-horim: rsync is a cli utility
[11:10] <bekks> Tom1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system
[11:10] <kannanunni> hai
[11:10] <figgycity50> Is any ubuntu flavour going to run on a 4gb memory stick?
[11:11] <bekks> figgycity50: Every flavour will.
[11:11] <figgycity50> But unity need 5.6gb
[11:11] <Tom1> ubuntu needs atleast 16 gb flashdrive to be installed completely.
[11:11] <hitsujiTMO> figgycity50: as a live cd image yes, or an installed copy of ubuntu-server
[11:11] <bekks> figgycity50: Thats not true.
[11:11] <bekks> figgycity50: I am running Unity fine on a 4GB vm.
[11:11] <figgycity50> Would xubutnu work installled?
[11:12] <bekks> figgycity50: Every flavour need less than 4GB of space.
[11:12] <figgycity50> K
[11:12] <Tom1> 6 gb of root partition, 4 gb of swap partition and 4 gb of /home partition for ubuntu.
[11:12] <bekks> Tom1: Thats nonsense. You need a 4GB stick at most.
[11:12] <andiho123> It is possible to upgrade Ubuntu 12.04 32-bit to 13.10 64bit?
[11:12] <bekks> andiho123: no.
[11:12] <hitsujiTMO> figgycity50: use the mini iso. install a minimal system, then install your de of choice
[11:12] <figgycity50> Main flavour install says 5.6 gb in !vbox
[11:12] <impaktor_> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/wMkfPsVV
[11:12] <figgycity50> K
[11:12] <home-horim> hitsujiTMO, what do you mean by cli utility?
[11:12] <figgycity50> Where is minimal?
[11:12] <kannanunni> sometimes my computer restarts after loading grub. anyone please help'
[11:13] <Tom1> bekks:  i mean permanent installation of ubuntu, not persistent.
[11:13] <k1l_> !rootirc > Tom1
[11:13] <bekks> Tom1: I am talking of persistent installations only.
[11:13] <hitsujiTMO> home-horim: you run it from the command line / terminal
[11:13] <Tom1> bekks: yes that ok then.
[11:13] <k1l_> Tom1: that is not true. ubuntu runs fine without swap (depends on ram and if you want to suspend) and the minimal requirements are much lower
[11:14] <bekks> Tom1: you dont need more than a 4GB USB, since using swap on USB is even slower, and will most likely kill your pendrive faster than every journalling fs would do.
[11:14] <figgycity50> Where can i get the mini iso
[11:14] <home-horim> hitsujiTMO, lucky backup is a non terminal alternative?
[11:14] <Tom1> bekks: but swap is recommend in ubuntu?
[11:14] <hitsujiTMO> home-horim: no idea of gui tools, sorry
[11:14] <k1l_> Tom1: not on a usb stick
[11:14] <figgycity50> Tom1 not every use case is the same
[11:14] <hitsujiTMO> !minimal | figgycity50
[11:15] <figgycity50> Thx
[11:15] <k1l_> Tom1: usb is very very slow. swap doesnt make sense. and when you panik of wear levels of Filesystems why do you even want to put swap on it?
[11:16] <home-horim> hitsujiTMO, ok thank you
[11:17] <figgycity50> K1l_ he thought swap was faster
[11:17] <k1l_> no
[11:17] <bekks> figgycity50: Swap will never speed up things at all.
[11:17] <home-horim> anyone knows of a good syncronization software with gui?
[11:17] <bekks> home-horim: grsync
[11:17] <figgycity50> Ubuntu one?
[11:17] <Tom1> i have sucessfully installed mint 15 xfce on a flash drive with all swap paritions and all. i ran it almost for about 2 months with no problems, no slowdowns, no crashes, no hangups. i though ubuntu should also work like mint did.
[11:17] <bekks> Tom1: We dont care about mint.
[11:18] <k1l_> swap was faster, when ram was very very very expensive and ram was not that fast.
[11:18] <Guest92494> helo people
[11:18] <figgycity50> Swap is slower now
[11:18] <bekks> k1l_: That must have been right before the dinosaurs.
[11:18] <Guest92494> i am going to ask about forbidden things and stuff like that
[11:18] <bekks> figgycity50: Swap is as fast as your disk. Not as fast as your RAM.
[11:18] <Guest92494> in ubuntu
[11:18] <bekks> figgycity50: Difference: about 1000x
[11:18] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: ok. get a root terminal up: sudo -i                   and run this: for i in `find . -type d `; do echo `ls -a $i | wc -l` $i; done | sort -n
[11:19] <Tom1> swap was never faster, its like using ur storage medium as a portion as virtual ram.
[11:19] <k1l_> Tom1: do a persistent usb install. no need to make that much panic about it
[11:19] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: it will take a while, but should tell you where the inodes are beind used up
[11:19]  * skraito-0x71 0day has been published in front page of our 0x71 (xc) Our website which is http://unhacker.org :p enjoy it. Glory To Jesus Christ our God.
[11:19] <Guest92494> if i install a software in ubuntu logged in as root will i be able to run it as another user without modifying config files and other as such?
[11:20] <figgycity50> Yes
[11:20] <bekks> Guest92494: Why are you logged in as root? The root account in Ubuntu is disabled by purpose.
[11:20] <Tom1> i have done persistent installation and all that. ubuntu used to give me error messages with it . i was unable to mount hdd partitions, ran slower, that's why i want to install it to usb drive, like we do with hdd
[11:20] <Guest92494> bekks...is beacause i want so
[11:20] <Guest92494> i want to leave windows
[11:20] <figgycity50> Yeah guest
[11:20] <Guest92494> and i want to do so as easy as posible
[11:21] <Guest92494> now
[11:21] <bekks> !root | Guest92494
[11:21] <figgycity50> Root is like not easy
[11:21] <Guest92494> i tried that with vlc player and worked fine
[11:21] <bekks> Guest92494: If you just use your root account for everything, you will break your box. Do not do it.
[11:21] <Guest92494> will it work with any other software as well?
[11:21] <Tom1> how do u know if someone is chatting as root?
[11:21] <figgycity50> Use the software center
[11:21] <figgycity50> Its easy
[11:21] <figgycity50> You want easy
[11:21] <bekks> Tom1: We can see the acoount name your are using.
[11:21] <Ben64> Guest92494: if you want to leave windows, leave windows' approach to user security behind as well
[11:21] <k1l_> Tom1: see your ident.
[11:21] <Guest92494> god damnit beks stop it...aaarrrghhhh
[11:22] <Guest92494> anyway
[11:22] <Guest92494> i want to install video card drivers
[11:22] <figgycity50> K
[11:22] <bekks> !language | Guest92494
[11:22] <Guest92494> will that work like that?
[11:22] <figgycity50> What card you have?
[11:22] <Tom1> am i running as root?
[11:22] <bekks> Guest92494: sudo apt-get... as USER will work.
[11:22] <bekks> Tom1: Tell us.
[11:22] <figgycity50> Tom1 no.
[11:22] <Guest92494> ubottu please control bekks
[11:22] <k1l_> Guest92494: you know there is sudo?
[11:23] <Ben64> Guest92494: learn to install things the proper way, apt-get and sudo are your friends. installing stuff manually can break your system
[11:23] <Guest92494> i dont want to use sudo...too much letters to write
[11:23] <figgycity50> Guest, software center ftw
[11:23] <hitsujiTMO> Tom1: * [Tom1] (~root@1.187.221.102): purple
[11:23] <Guest92494> apt get needs internet
[11:23] <Guest92494> i want without
[11:23] <figgycity50> Dude
[11:23] <k1l_> Guest92494: always being the admin (or root) is a bad windows habbit. just use sudo apt-get install <video-driver-package>
[11:23] <figgycity50> Everyone has net nowadays
[11:23] <bekks> Guest92494: Your are in the internet currently, so use it.
[11:24] <figgycity50> Yes
[11:24] <Guest92494> i want to do this...and after some time i will start use those things too
[11:24] <Guest92494> but not from the start
[11:24] <Tom1> bekks: what are the dangers in running as root?
[11:24] <bekks> Tom1: Insecurity.
[11:24] <Guest92494> and without the internet...can be done to much harm to the box can it?
[11:24] <figgycity50> Okay
[11:24] <Tom1> bekks: i mean chatting as root in irc?
[11:24] <Guest92494> you guys are in lockdown right now
[11:24] <figgycity50> You should use the Internet to install packages
[11:24] <bekks> Guest92494: Just leave the bad habbits of windows.
[11:25] <Guest92494> i dont want to
[11:25] <bekks> Then dont ask for help.
[11:25] <figgycity50> Why not
[11:25] <k1l_> Guest92377: honestly. ubuntu is made to be used with sudo where you need root permissions but to  run as user in all other cases. so if you want to be root all the time you are doing things much complicated
[11:25] <hewhomust> well use windows
[11:25] <Guest92494> aaaaaaaaaa
[11:25] <figgycity50> Dude use the internet please
[11:25] <figgycity50>  there is no way not to
[11:25] <Guest92494> i asked if will it work
[11:25] <Guest92494> why figgy...for you to hack me?
[11:25] <Guest92494> :)
[11:25] <bekks> Guest92494: shooting yourself in the foor will work too, technically.
[11:25] <k1l_> Guest92494: and the standard way is to use the official ubuntu repos. that is one of the favours of linux/ubuntu
[11:25] <figgycity50>  I'm not hacking you
[11:26] <bekks> *foot
[11:26] <k1l_> Tom1: running every program as root is a security issue, yes. dont do that
[11:26] <figgycity50> Indeed
[11:26] <Tom1> bekks: if someone tries to hack a computer the firewall will stop it, right?
[11:26] <Guest92494> i dont want to run the programs as root
[11:26] <k1l_> Tom1: no
[11:26] <impaktor_> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/MSQbvwN7
[11:26] <Ronie> .
[11:26] <Guest92494> i want to install them as one
[11:27] <Guest92494> why dont you want to understand
[11:27] <bekks> Tom1: No, not at all.
[11:27] <hitsujiTMO> Tom1: if there's a vulnerability in your irc client, some will have root access to your machine
[11:27] <Ben64> Guest92494: use sudo, why don't you want to understand that?
[11:27] <k1l_> Guest92494: what do you want to do after all?
[11:27] <figgycity50> To install all as one,
[11:27] <MASbro> my external usb hub external power supply supplies power to my ex hdd that isnt connected. does this happen to anyone else?
[11:27] <Guest92494> ben i made windows in school not linux as you did
[11:27] <figgycity50> Type sudo apt-get install package apckage package
[11:27] <yeyeman> how can I move a non empty dir?
[11:27] <Guest92494> simple as that
[11:27] <bekks> yeyeman: mv olddir newdir
[11:27] <impaktor_> hitsujiTMO: Ah, I assume I should do it from "/" redoing it now.
[11:28] <Ben64> Guest92494: i don't know what you mean by that
[11:28] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: sorry, that seems to have run it from /root.    cd /; for i in `find . -type d`; do echo `ls -a $i | wc -l` $i; done | sort -n
[11:28] <Ronie> .
[11:28] <Guest92494> yeah ben you dont...and none of these guys either...sheeesh
[11:28] <figgycity50> Bye
[11:29] <Ben64> Guest92494: it's very simple. if you want to use ubuntu, learn how to use it. part of that is sudo
[11:29] <Guest92494> ben there is a posibility of clicky clicky too
[11:29] <Guest92494> so i want to use that at first
[11:29] <Guest92494> now do you uderstand?
[11:29] <hewhomust> Guest92494:  thats still not running as root
[11:29] <Ben64> what is "clicky clicky"
[11:29] <hewhomust> gui
[11:29] <hitsujiTMO> Guest92494: you're not making any sense
[11:30] <Ben64> then use the software center.... which uses sudo behind the scenes for you
[11:30] <k1l_> Guest92494: use software center to isntall programs if you want to use gui
[11:30] <Guest92494> yes i like to install software from gui and normal user doesn't let me
[11:30] <Ben64> you're making it so much more complicated than needed
[11:30] <Guest92494> only root does
[11:30] <k1l_> Guest92494: that is a lie!
[11:30] <hitsujiTMO> Guest92494: use sudo as a normal user
[11:30] <k1l_> Guest92494: seems like you already ruined your system because of running everything with root
[11:30] <Guest92494> k1l you lie not me]
[11:31] <hawt-user> i want connect to machine behind adsl modem through ssh, i have installed openssh listening on 22, port forwarding rule on modem, $ ssh hawt-user@doitwrong.no-ip.biz  ssh: connect to host doitwrong.no-ip.biz port 22: Connection refused
[11:31] <Guest92494> i do not want a flame war so i am leaving...thanks for not helping....so no heaven for you when you will die
[11:31] <k1l_> Guest92494: you can isntall software with software-center as a user. it will ask for your user password t complete install. but you dont need to be root.
[11:31] <hawt-user> nmap says that 22 port is not open..
[11:32] <omri> hawt-user: can you SSH to that machine from your LAN?
[11:32] <hawt-user> omri: yes
[11:32] <Guest92494> no after you provide pass some errors will apear beacause no full prvilegges are met
[11:32] <omri> hawt-user: so my guess is your port forwarding is no good
[11:32] <k1l_> Guest92494: then you have problems on your system already. that is not a standard install then
[11:33] <omri> hawt-user: to make sure, run tcpdump on that interface and see if you see a SYN packet to port 22 when you SSH from the internet
[11:33] <Tom1> K1l_: how do you now if somebody is chatting in irc as root?
[11:33] <Guest92494> k1 i am not installing some services here...i am installing software
[11:33] <moises> Guest92494 what are you trying to install?
[11:33] <Guest92494> so the kit needs privilleges
[11:33] <k1l_> Tom1: do a "/whois Tom1 "
[11:33] <Guest92494> some kits
[11:33] <Guest92494> it doesnt matter
[11:33] <Tom1> in terminal?
[11:34] <k1l_> !details | Guest92494
[11:34] <moises> Guest92494 yes, it matter
[11:34] <Guest92494> no tom by cklick click
[11:34] <hitsujiTMO> Tom1: no in the irc client
[11:34] <Guest92494> it doesnt moises
[11:34] <k1l_> Guest92494: and show those error messages in pastebin
[11:34] <k1l_> Tom1: no in the irc client
[11:34] <Guest92494> it is a kit with drivers for some video card
[11:34] <k1l_> Guest92494: details…
[11:35] <Guest92494> and a kit for som sound card
[11:35] <Guest92494> and a kit for some pic programmer
[11:35] <Guest92494> and other like that
[11:35] <k1l_> some kit?  i got some car, that has some damage and does not work with some error. that doesnt help to help you. give specific details
[11:35] <omri> hawt-user: something like: tcpdump -n 'tcp port 22 and tcp[tcpflags] & tcp-syn != 0'
[11:35] <MASbro> my external usb hub external power supply supplies power to my ex hdd that isnt connected.
[11:35] <k1l_> !details | Guest92494
[11:35] <Guest92494> k1 this is ludacris
[11:35] <Ben64> Guest92494:  those are not details, and you should probably not be installing things like that, i'd imagine doing stuff like that is the source of your problems
[11:36] <Ben64> Guest92494: ubuntu is not like windows, you do not need to scour the internet to find driver packages in the vast majority of circumstances
[11:36] <Guest92494> oh you dont want me to watch tv from linux you dont want me to program p[ics from linux
[11:36] <Guest92494> and of course you dont want me to istall the proper drivers for my video card
[11:36] <Guest92494> is that it?
[11:37] <Ben64> stop arguing with us and explain exactly what you're installing and maybe we can help you
[11:37] <Tom1> Ben64: /whois "name" not giving any reponse, what it does?
[11:37] <k1l_> Guest92494: where is you problem in answering the questions? do you want help? or do you just want to make trouble?
[11:37] <MASbro> ubuntu works out the box
[11:37] <k1l_> Tom1: see in server tab
[11:37] <Guest92494> yes i have to ben if i want everything to work properly
[11:37] <Ben64> Guest92494: you probably do not
[11:37] <Tom1> K1l_: how to see server tab?
[11:38] <Guest92494> hey ben guess what
[11:38] <Ben64> i can watch tv on my tv tuner card, i can have sound, video drivers, all without installing any "kits" or using root at all
[11:38] <k1l_> Guest92494: we could help you to install the video card drivers the right way, if you would only tell which ubuntu, which video card, what errors you get etc.
[11:38] <Guest92494> i have an s3 trio 3d card
[11:38] <Guest92494> i ghave drivers for it but they must be installed
[11:38] <hewhomust> Guest92494, if you want to learn anything you listen to people who are more experienced than you linux is no exception
[11:38] <Guest92494> without asking you guys every time
[11:38] <k1l_> Tom1: see the different chat windows from your irc client
[11:39] <Guest92494> hewh that is what i am doing but come on....if there is a graphical way i want to do it like that
[11:39] <moises> Guest92494 the 1992 video card?
[11:39] <Ronie> .
[11:39] <Guest92494> if freedos would have worked properly i ould have used that
[11:40] <Guest92494> why is it matter moises...probably
[11:40] <Guest92494> is a trio 3d 2x
[11:41] <Guest92494> i dont want to start a nostalgia debate now...i want to be able to use that
[11:41] <Guest92494> ok i am going to install it as root and see what happens
[11:41] <Ben64> then you probably want ubuntu 12.04, its the last release with support for that card
[11:42] <Tom1> Ben64:which ditro are u using?
[11:42] <Guest92494> why do i need support for a card when ihave the drivers for it?
[11:42] <Guest92494> for linux that is
[11:42] <Ben64> Tom1: this is #ubuntu, so ... Ubuntu :)
[11:42] <Guest92494> ?
[11:42] <k1l_> Guest92494: i am loosing my patience now so i will stop trying to help you find the proper way. please listen to advice of the other users, if you ask for help. if you dont want to follow advice stop asking
[11:43] <Ben64> Guest92494: because installing drivers manually can break your system
[11:43] <Guest92494> that is correct ben.. can break
[11:43] <Guest92494> i want to learn the hard way
[11:43] <Guest92494> like i learned in windows
[11:44] <Ben64> well have fun, keep in mind you can't come here to have us help when you break it
[11:44] <Tom1> Ben64: one more question, how to know if someone is ircing as root?
[11:44] <Ben64> or install 12.04 and have it just work
[11:44] <Guest92494> i just reinstall it again
[11:44] <Ben64> Tom1: you've been told this many times already
[11:44] <Guest92494> that is no concern
[11:44] <moises> Guest92494 write a new driver for that video card
[11:44] <moises> it's the hard way
[11:44] <Tom1> Ben64:/whois?
[11:44] <Ben64> Tom1: correct
[11:44] <Guest92494> moises i am not a software god like you so i can not do it
[11:45] <bekks> Guest92494: Then listen tp the people telling you how to do it.
[11:45] <Ben64> Guest92494: which is why you should install 12.04
[11:45] <Guest92494> oh bekks don't tell me i have to rewrite a driver now :)))
[11:45] <Guest92494> tat is hilarious
[11:45] <moises> I was writing the same, bekks
[11:45] <moises> :)
[11:46] <bekks> Guest92494: No. Just stop your windows approach and listen to the people telling you how to do things in linux.
[11:46] <bekks> Guest92494: If you are unwilling to listen - dont ask.
[11:46] <Guest92494> you guys want me to leave the graphical environment foor a cli...you are kiding..or something is definitely with you
[11:47] <Ben64> nobody said that!
[11:47] <Guest92494> i want to use cli when gui just cant help at all
[11:47] <Guest92494> i am not completely against cli
[11:47] <Ben64> nobody ever said to use cli
[11:48] <Guest92494> and beside...you can not explain  commands correclty if i will go with your aproach
[11:48] <Ben64> my approach is to install the version of ubuntu that supports your video card
[11:48] <Ben64> nothing to do with cli vs gui
[11:48] <Guest92494> you will start redisrect me on other sites where i will definitely get lost and oose my interest in linux...i simply do NOT want that
[11:48] <Guest92494> yes there is ben
[11:49] <Ben64> -------------install 12.04-------------
[11:49] <Guest92494> i asked how to do it in gui...you guys try to shove the terminal up my throat
[11:49] <Tom1> Bekks: can someone access the your computer , if ur running as root? wouldn't linux stop him for hacking into the pc? or is it as simple as it is in windows?
[11:49] <Guest92494> well i just can not swallow it
[11:49] <Ben64> i'm done with you, you're making up nonsense
[11:50] <gordonjcp> Guest92494: what exactly are you trying to do?
[11:50] <Guest92494> please ben show me the nonsense..... please
[11:50] <bekks> Tom1: Yes, people can hack you. No, linux does not stop him automagically. It is not as simple as in windows.
[11:51] <bekks> Guest92494: Just read your own backlog. More than enough nonsense.
[11:51] <Ben64> Guest92494: you keep going on about cli. NOBODY is telling you to use cli. i'm telling you to INSTALL 12.04 IF YOU WANT SUPPORT FOR YOUR ANCIENT VIDEO CARD. end of story!
[11:51] <Guest92494> bekks you are ridiculous
[11:51] <Guest92494> i ask gui installation help you are shoving cli up my throat
[11:52] <Guest92494> and others do the same here
[11:52] <gordonjcp> Guest92494: ask a specific question
[11:52] <k1l_> Guest92494: please stop asking if you dont want to hear answers. state a precise question and people will try to give a precise answer.
[11:52] <Guest92494> just to show how good you are
[11:52] <Guest92494> ok k1
[11:52] <Guest92494> hear this question then
[11:53] <Guest92494> will a root installation from gui login give acces to the normal user to the execution of the software installed as root...logged in as root?
[11:53] <impaktor_> hitsujiTMO: Scrollback history was limited, but here's the result http://pastebin.com/KTEzqzyB
[11:53] <Guest92494> YES or NO
[11:53] <Burrito> YES
[11:53] <k1l_> Guest92494: its easier to give commands that a user should put into a terminal (like this http://i.stack.imgur.com/DlyYM.png )  then to tell him" clikc there and then click the 3rd checkbos there and then click there and click in the 5th collum there....."
[11:54] <Guest92494> that is what i was looking for
[11:54] <Guest92494> thank you
[11:54] <Ben64> Guest92494: you're going to break your system
[11:54] <Ben64> install 12.04
[11:54] <bekks> Guest92494: I am honest, not ridiculous.
[11:54] <Guest92494> we could have spared alot of time
[11:54] <Ben64> Guest92494: what you're trying to do will NOT work
[11:54] <Guest92494> ben i allready installed 12.04
[11:54] <bekks> Guest92494: You dont want to hear answers, so further support of you is a wastte of time for me. Good luck.
[11:54] <Burrito> The conventional method for installing software is using sudo or synaptic-pkexec, not logging in as root.
[11:54] <k1l_> Guest92494: you never answered us what ubuntu you got there
[11:54] <Guest92494> bekks i want to hear the right answers for my problem
[11:54] <Ben64> Guest92494: then the driver is already included, congratulations
[11:55] <Guest92494> not just some answers
[11:55] <k1l_> Guest92494: you just said alot how nonsens we are. so please try to be specific with answers
[11:55] <Ben64> Guest92494: you're question is nonsensical, so you're never going to get the answer you want
[11:55] <Guest92494> ben it is not includen for nvidia cards
[11:55] <Ben64> it actually is included for nvidia cards too
[11:55] <Guest92494> only for s3 probably
[11:55] <Ben64> but you said you have s3
[11:55] <bekks> Guest92494: It is not you who decided whats the right answer, when asking a question.
[11:55] <bekks> *decides
[11:55] <Guest92494> ben i do not have acceleration on my 8600 gs
[11:56] <Guest92494> so that is a lie
[11:56] <k1l_> Guest92494: you said you have a s3 card, not nvidia
[11:56] <Ben64> you said you had an s3!
[11:56] <gordonjcp> 11:54 < Guest92494> will a root installation from gui login give acces to the  normal user to the execution of the software installed as  root...logged in as root?
[11:56] <gordonjcp> Guest92494: yes
[11:56] <gordonjcp> Guest92494: you cannot log into the GUI as root though
[11:56] <Guest92494> it keeps asking me about some proprietary drivers that seems to not want to installl
[11:56] <Ben64> gordonjcp: you should read the full scrollback before answering something like that
[11:56] <Tom1> Guest92494: are you running as root?
[11:56] <Guest92494> gordon i allready logged in as root
[11:56] <bekks> Tom1: Yes he is. Dont do that.
[11:56] <Guest92494> another lie
[11:56] <k1l_> Guest92494: again: we dont know what system you got there. you need to tell us. we cant just guess it
[11:56] <gordonjcp> Guest92494: you can't, unless you've set a root password
[11:57] <gordonjcp> Guest92494: in which case you must wipe the system and reinstall
[11:57] <bekks> gordonjcp: Which is not true. Disabling the root account suffices.
[11:58] <Guest92494> k1 system is ubuntu 12.04 video nvidia 8600gs sound realtek hd audio
[11:58] <Ben64> what happened to your s3 card??
[11:58] <Guest92494> that is sufficient i think
[11:58] <k1l_> Guest92494: so why did you make up the story about a s3 trio card?
[11:58] <bekks> Ben64: It magically changed make and model.
[11:58] <Ben64> smells like troll
[11:59] <Guest92494> i have a lot of old pieces that is why ia want general answers so i do not have to bother you 100 times for one job
[11:59] <gordonjcp> bekks: I disagree, no idea what kind of a mess people blundering around as root have done
[11:59] <Guest92494> that happened to my card ben...i have many types of them
[11:59] <k1l_> Guest92494: so nvidia is supported, even with easy gui install. just go to system settings, updates, and then in the last tab you will see prop. driver installation
[11:59] <gordonjcp> bekks: passwd should be patched so that if it detects anyone setting a password for root, it automatically does dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[11:59] <bekks> Guest92494: And there is no generic approach for every card.
[11:59] <Guest92494> i have an nvidia an ati...2 s3's
[11:59] <bekks> gordonjcp: strong disagree.
[11:59] <Guest92494> and a hercules 3dfx something
[12:00] <gordonjcp> bekks: there is absolutely no reason to have a root password set
[12:00] <k1l_> Guest92494: there is no generic answer to all video card. the ways to handle video cards can be very different. so again: state precise questions to get good answers
[12:00] <Guest92494> and some other sound cards too
[12:00] <Guest92494> ok nvidia 8600 gs
[12:00] <bekks> gordonjcp: No reason at home - an hundreds in business use cases, like cluster intercommunication, etc.
[12:00] <gordonjcp> bekks: nope
[12:00] <Guest92494> lets start with that
[12:00] <bekks> gordonjcp: You never dealt with HA clusters then.
[12:00] <gordonjcp> bekks: have you got a specific example of something that would require a valid root login, that could not be done with sudo?
[12:01] <koell> hi i would like to map the left alt-key to access the third level on keyboard. how to do that?
[12:01] <Guest92494> i download the kit for ubuntu...then what?
[12:01] <k1l_> Guest92377: like i told: system settings, updates , last tab for driver install
[12:01] <gordonjcp> bekks: bear in mind we've had sudo for what, 20 years now?  More even
[12:01] <k1l_> Guest92494: NO!
[12:01] <bekks> gordonjcp: Symantec Veritas Cluster Server intercommunication.
[12:01] <bekks> gordonjcp: Dont discuss about thing you dont know.
[12:01] <k1l_> Guest92494: loading stuff from website is wrong! dont do the windows fails.
[12:01] <gordonjcp> bekks: and why does that need a valid root login?
[12:01] <bekks> gordonjcp: See their docs.
[12:01] <gordonjcp> bekks: more to the point, why does it require such an obsolete concept?
[12:02] <Guest92494> k1 i do not want to be dependent of the internet as aq junkie is dependent on heroine
[12:02] <Guest92494> o dont know how to explain this better
[12:02] <Guest92494> so
[12:02] <Guest92494> that's what i have
[12:02] <k1l_> Guest92494: that is just a bad idea
[12:03] <Guest92494> why?
[12:03] <Guest92494> no internet no hacking
[12:03] <Guest92494> no?
[12:03] <Tom1> Guest92494: type uname -a in terminal and copy and paste the result here on irc.
[12:03] <k1l_> Guest92494: you realise you are in internet now?
[12:03] <Aeo_> hey
[12:04] <k1l_> Guest92494: you did even load the "kit" from a website. so this is just plain trolling of you
[12:04] <Guest92494> yes but i can wipe everything
[12:04] <Guest92494> after this is over
[12:04] <k1l_> Guest92494: dont misuse this channel. this is technical ubuntu support channel. if you dont want to get help dont ask in here. thanks
[12:04] <Tom1> Guest92494: uname -a does not wipes anything, it print abput ur hardware.
[12:04] <k1l_> !guidelines > Guest92494
[12:04] <Aeo_> does anyone have any idea how to mount cifs shares in fstab, with rw to chmod/chown
[12:04] <Guest92494> i want help without sudo
[12:05] <Guest92494> just graphical that is why unity is running by default
[12:05] <Guest92494> i am not misusing anything
[12:05] <k1l_> Guest92494: sudo is the ubuntu way. if you dont like it and dont know what you are actual doing use something different
[12:05] <Guest92494> then why canonical bothered to make unity k1 WHY?
[12:05] <Guest92494> tell me that
[12:05] <k1l_> Guest92494: i told you 3 times how to use the ubuntu-nvidia driver with gui install.
[12:06] <Tom1> Guest92494: u have to use sudo apt-get install to install any drivers and softwares. it different than from windows where u click on exe files.
[12:06] <Guest92494> k1 an tom you talk at once and i cant make any sense of what you say
[12:06] <Aeo_> Guest92494: the only non apt-get way is using .deb packages
[12:06] <k1l_> Guest92494: but you just keep saying how cool you are and how much you know about running as root. that is not the right channel for this behaviour. stop asking if you dont want to hear answers
[12:06] <Aeo_> which is funtionally the same
[12:07] <Aeo_> you want to run as root? DONT Guest92494
[12:07] <Tom1> Guest92494: i mean in ubuntu sudo command works like a backbone, for installing any software or driver u have to use them, just type "sudo apt-get install urpackage name"
[12:08] <Aeo_> Guest92494: sudo is root only for that command
[12:09] <Aeo_> hey Tom1 k1l_ do you guys have any idea how to mount a cifs share in fstab, with uid and gid are provided by AD
[12:09] <Tom1> Aeo: no idea about that.
[12:09] <Tom1> sorry
[12:10] <Ben64> Aeo_: uid and gid provided by AD? whats AD?
[12:11] <Aeo_> Active directory auth against samba Ben64
[12:11] <Ben64> ooh, sorry i don't know
[12:11] <solsTiCe> I had laptop-mode enable and active and after a few sleep mode I was able to plugin my phone ans it was recharging fine so there was some power flowing on BUT I was unable to mount thephone as usb device to look at files
[12:12] <Tom1> Ben64:can i boot mint 14 nadia xfce on a windows 8 laptop which has UEFI ?
[12:12] <Ben64> Aeo_: normal cifs is like --- "//192.168.1.1/Share /mnt/share          cifs    user=username,pass=password,uid=1000,_netdev  0       0"
[12:12] <Ben64> Tom1: dunno, we don't support mint in this channel
[12:12] <Seveas> Aeo_: check the section'CIFS/NTFS ACL, SID/UID/GID MAPPING, SECURITY DESCRIPTORS
[12:12] <Seveas> Aeo_: check the section 'CIFS/NTFS ACL, SID/UID/GID MAPPING, SECURITY DESCRIPTORS' in the mount.cifs manpage
[12:12] <Tom1> Ben64: sorry for the typing mistake . i mean ubuntu?
[12:13] <Seveas> you'll need winbind and you need to use it via nss
[12:13] <Tom1> Aeo:which distro are you using?
[12:13] <Ben64> Tom1: somehow i doubt that is a typo
[12:13] <Tom1> Ben64: u got me,
[12:13] <Tom1> just asking
[12:13] <Seveas> !mint
[12:14] <Aeo_> Tom1: Ubuntu obv, Seveas Ben64 the uid and gid cant be absolute values, they have to be shareuser cause gid and uid might change due to new ad usersand reorgs
[12:14] <Tom1> Aeo: are you running as root?
[12:15] <Seveas> Aeo_: that's why you use winbind and proper options to mount.cifs. I have never done this myself, but know it is possible.
[12:15] <Aeo_> Tom1: i can create files when running as sudo, not otherwise. The user has perms to access the share
[12:15] <Aeo_> Seveas: i am using winbind
[12:15] <Tom1> Aeo_: ur indents shows that ur running as root?
[12:16] <Aeo_> Tom1: my indents? what do you mean?
[12:16] <Tom1> Aeo_:6a33a0c0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.106.51.160.192
[12:17] <Aeo_> im going through freenode on a windows machine
[12:18] <Tom1> Aeo_: this is ur ip address? 106.51.160.192
[12:19] <k1l_> Tom1: do you have a actual ubuntu technical issue?
[12:19] <Aeo_> Tom1: sadly, yes it is
[12:20] <Tom1> K1l_: i had some technical issues with ubuntu, but i also wanted to know some new things regarding irc and about running as root.
[12:20] <arcsky> anyone know a cli tool for checking if my hdd feels ok?
[12:20] <Tom1> arcsky:fsc can help you.
[12:20] <k1l_> Tom1: you still run as root. stop that irc program and dont start it as root again
[12:20] <Tom1> fsck i mean
[12:21] <k1l_> !smart | arcsky
[12:22] <Tom1> K1l_: get gnome hdd tools to check your harddisks condition.
[12:22] <Tom1> am i right?
[12:22] <Aeo_> arcsky: http://www.justin.my/2011/05/check-linux-hdd-using-smartmontools/ this will display SMART Data
[12:23] <k1l_> Tom1: yes, but the user asked for cli
[12:23] <Aeo_> arcsky: in summation, smartmontools
[12:25] <arcsky> Aeo_: thx
[12:29] <GabrielSOE> Hello Guys: Just created a smaba share - simple one with access to all, but can't access folders in that share??? help.
[12:31] <aeon-ltd> GabrielSOE: describe can't access
[12:33] <GabrielSOE> aeon-ltd: no permission
[12:33] <bekks> GabrielSOE: How did you mount it?
[12:33] <aeon-ltd> GabrielSOE: are you giving access to a /home ?
[12:33] <sandman13> is it possible to import compiz settings of unity to xfce4?
[12:34] <GabrielSOE> aeon-ltd: To Videos folder
[12:35] <aeon-ltd> GabrielSOE: try restarting the server if you made any changes
[12:35] <GabrielSOE> aeon-ltd: The folder is an old one no changes were made. but will restart now
[12:36] <maciekish> Hello, I have a quick question. Is it possible to install Ubuntu 13.10 to an *existing* btrfs root with some data on it, while retaining that data?
[12:36] <aeon-ltd> GabrielSOE: i'm going soon, but if no one has a quick solution. post your config to something like pastebin and have someone read over it
[12:37] <maciekish> Say btrfs is split over two drives, and it only contains one folder /data, can i install Ubuntu to that and boot from there while retaining /data?
[12:38] <Aeo_> GabrielSOE: samba, my speciality
[12:38] <Aeo_> did you all your user to the valid users in the smb.conf
[12:39] <GabrielSOE> Aeo_: Could not display “”.The file is of an unknown type, and Yes
[12:39] <Aeo_> GabrielSOE: and hows it mounted on the local machine
[12:40] <GabrielSOE> Aeo_: it is part of my home folder
[12:40] <Aeo_> GabrielSOE: whats the remote machine? linux?
[12:40] <GabrielSOE> Aeo_: Ubuntu 13.10
[12:41] <Aeo_> GabrielSOE: you want to mount in fstab
[12:42] <Aeo_> ?
[12:42] <GabrielSOE> Aeo_: Never had problems, even without fstab, just after the upgrade...
[12:42] <GabrielSOE> Aeo_: last night. Upgraded the host
[12:43] <Aeo_> hmm, check your users list
[12:43] <Aeo_> and add the uid and gid lines on your fstab
[12:45] <Aeo_> on host, do a id -u and -g to get those values, then specify those in the fstab line, along with 0777 ofr file_ and dir_mode
[12:45] <wily> hi all
[12:45] <wily> i've a big problem mounting 64 gb samsung microsd
[12:46] <wily>  exited wih  non zero exit status
[12:46] <Aeo_> wily: do a fsck
[12:46] <wily> a similiar error message blocks mount
[12:46] <GabrielSOE> Aeo_: [Videos]
[12:46] <GabrielSOE>     comment = Ubuntu File Server Share
[12:46] <GabrielSOE>     path = /home/gabriel/Videos
[12:46] <GabrielSOE>     browsable = yes
[12:46] <GabrielSOE>     guest ok = yes
[12:46] <GabrielSOE>     read only = no
[12:46] <GabrielSOE>     create mask = 0700
[12:47] <Aeo_> GabrielSOE: pastebin it please
[12:47] <GabrielSOE> Aeo_: pastebin ???
[12:47] <Aeo_> GabrielSOE: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:48] <wily> aeo is a well know problem
[12:48] <wily> but i've not a solution
[12:51] <monadist> does anyone here use an iphone?
[12:53] <wily> can someone help me please?
[12:53] <wily> 64gb samsung microsd don't want to be mounted on ubuntu
[12:54] <bekks> Define "dont want".
[12:54] <maciekish> ZFS vs btrfs on a big 4 x 3TB array?
[12:54] <wily> exited wih  non zero exit status
[12:54] <wily> a similare error bekks
[12:55] <bekks> !details | wily
[12:55] <wily> ok
[12:56] <wily> i'm using ubuntu 13.10
[12:56] <bekks> wily: And fill in the given sentences please.
[12:56] <wily> i want to mount sdhc 64gm samsung micorsd
[12:57] <wily> and error is error mounting .............. extfat -o .............. exited wih  non zero exit status 32 unknow filesystem type "exfat"
[12:58] <wily> here is all bekks
[12:58] <sandman13> is it possible to import compiz settings of unity to xfce4?
[12:58] <hitsujiTMO> sandman13: that would turn it into unity
[12:59] <sandman13> hitsujiTMO not all but few
[13:00] <hitsujiTMO> sandman13: if ccsm has an export/import functionality then you could try doing so with that
[13:00] <sandman13> ccsm? hitsujiTMO
[13:01] <OerHeks> wily To install exfat on Ubuntu 13.10 Saucy Salamander,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install exfat-utils ( and do some mount stuff )>> http://askubuntu.com/a/370560
[13:01] <hitsujiTMO> sandman13: compiz config settings manager
[13:01] <sandman13> hitsujiTMO: if i install compiz on xfce4 will that affect the unity?
[13:02] <OerHeks> compiz on xfce4, interesting
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> sandman13: s/affect/effect        if you have unity installed then yes it most likely will effect it
[13:03] <hawt-user> can u suggest me teamviewer like i need remote desktop without knowing any static ips or dynamic dns mojos(already tried noip with ddsclient but my adsl modem cant do port forwarding   )
[13:04] <hawt-user> ddclient*
[13:04] <OerHeks> hawt-user, there is an ubuntu client, http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> hawt-user: maybe try ... teamviewer  ?
[13:05] <OerHeks> but do you trust teamviewer-service?
[13:06] <grml84> hi
[13:06] <hawt-user> teamviewer crashes ..
[13:06] <hawt-user> i need something native
[13:08] <OerHeks> hawt-user, without altering your router/portforwarding config, there is only teamviewer abailable tru port 80
[13:24] <JaneSmith> hello, how can i make the sudo remain activated on one terminal instance (not request the passwd every n minutes)?
[13:25] <hitsujiTMO> JaneSmith: you don't that's a security risk
[13:26] <Joostt> Hello. I have my own dedicated server and an always on ubuntu machine at my home. My home has a static ip. I am looking for reliable software that could backup my dedicated server to my home.
[13:26] <Joostt> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[13:27] <JaneSmith> hitsujiTMO i decide how i manage 'risks' can you please point me to the configuration file where i could set that option?
[13:27] <hitsujiTMO> Joostt: man rsync && man cron
[13:27] <k1l_> JaneSmith: i dont think you can do that for one terminal. you could deactivate sudo pw for one user or make the timeframe longer until next pw is needed. but i think the presets are quite good mix of security and lazyness
[13:28] <JaneSmith> i don't want to deactivate it at user level, that is a risk i won't take
[13:28] <hitsujiTMO> JaneSmith: you would need to set the timestamp in the sudoers file
[13:29] <k1l_> JaneSmith: as i said: i dont think that is possible for only one terminal
[13:29] <gordonjcp> yeah, you can't do that for only one terminal
[13:29] <gordonjcp> JaneSmith: what exactly are you trying to do?
[13:30] <k1l_> JaneSmith: that sounds like a workaround for another problem. maybe there is another way for a solution
[13:30] <hitsujiTMO> JaneSmith: man sudoers        look at the timestamp_timeout ... """ This can be used to allow users to create or delete their own time stamps via “sudo -v” and “sudo -k” respectively."""
[13:31] <JaneSmith> hitsujiTMO thx, i'll look at that now
[13:31] <hitsujiTMO> JaneSmith: why would you want to modify the timestamp tho?
[13:36] <gordonjcp> JaneSmith: having a terminal logged in as root is pretty much always the wrong way to do stuff
[13:37] <luka_> http://xdcc_CANCEL_X1387895414
[13:41] <John_John_> when i ping my vmware guest ubuntu from my host mac with the IP address its ok but i can't ping it with its machine name. how can i fix this ?
[13:42] <Seveas> John_John_: either set up a DNS server and add the name to an internal zonefile. Or quick and dirty with /etc/hosts
[13:46] <mrdeb> hi is ubuntu 14.04 using compiz or something better
[13:47] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | mrdeb
[13:47] <mrdeb> yes or no
[13:47] <hitsujiTMO> mrdeb: don't know, ask the guys using it
[13:48] <mrdeb> figures
[13:48] <John_John_> Seveas: can you tell me exactly how with /etc/hosts ?
[13:49] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: add a line in /etc/hosts: ip.of.that.machine nameofmachine
[13:49] <Guest54584> hi
[13:52] <John_John_> thanks. in my host machine right ?
[13:53] <jerrino77> hello
[13:55] <tilppis> is DPS for radeon cards enabled by default in 14.04?
[13:57] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | tilppis
[13:59] <Maaz> !hacking
[13:59] <John_John_> i did it thanks!
[13:59] <researcher123> is there a duplicate file finder in Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:01] <hitsujiTMO> researcher123: fdupes
[14:01] <mrdeb> hitsujiTMO: no one answers
[14:01] <researcher123> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[14:02] <hitsujiTMO> mrdeb: be patient. not many 14.04 users
[14:02] <mrdeb> bad
[14:04] <Akima> Hi.  Any idea why Firefox 27.0 isn't out for Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:04] <hitsujiTMO> !latest | akima
[14:05] <Akima> hitsujiTMO: There's quite a few security vulnerabilities fixed in v27.0. https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox.html
[14:07] <Akima> I was suprised to just apt-get update and not have the latest available.  Canonical have been providing the latest Firefox version for a while now to Ubuntu 12.04
[14:07] <mrdeb> it will be a few days
[14:07] <hitsujiTMO> Akima: 27 is still in proposed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox
[14:07] <pamparamp> Hello
[14:07] <pamparamp> any know how good ubuntu crypting /home directory?.
[14:08] <hitsujiTMO> pamparamp: pretty good since if anything goes wrong noone so far has been able to recover their files
[14:10] <pamparamp> hitsujiTMO: but if i select this option user passwrd = passwprd to ecrypt?
[14:12] <Akima> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[14:12] <pamparamp> police can  hack it?
[14:12] <researcher123> does anyone know a duplicate file finder with a GUI
[14:12] <Akima> researcher123: meld
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> pamparamp: thats the norm. some peeps run into issues if they try to change their password and forget to change their ecrypt password tho. its just something to be careful with, but otherwise there's not many issues
[14:12] <Akima> it is in the software center
[14:13] <Akima> researcher123: you can compare 2 directories and see the differences
[14:13] <researcher123> Akima: I want to compare files
[14:14] <Akima> researcher123: it does that. It might not be what you need.  Check out the home page for the software: http://meldmerge.org/
[14:18] <Munster> hello
[14:21] <Mace268> !w gey
[14:22] <Mace268> oops wrong window
[14:31] <John_John_> strange, i changed documentroot and restarted apache in ubuntu 12.04 but it keeps pointing to the default. any ideas ?
[14:33] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: what exactly did you change?
[14:34] <John_John_> apache2.conf and httpd.conf but apparently the right one is this : sudo gedit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default    let me try that now!
[14:35] <k1l_> John_John_: don trun sudo with gui programs
[14:35] <k1l_> John_John_: that will cause problems, run gksudo instead
[14:37] <John_John_> ok i fixed my problem. what is the difference between sudo and gksudo ?
[14:38] <John_John_> what problems are caused ?
[14:38] <John_John_> i am new to linux world!
[14:39] <k1l_> John_John_: suod does not set the variables (like which user, what language, what home directory) the right way when launched with gui apps. use gksudo with that. sudo is fine for apps that run only in terminal
[14:39] <someHuman> Hello!
[14:40] <John_John_> and if you know, how do i give permissions to run phpmyadmin from my host/remote computer ? now it's forbidden!
[14:40] <someHuman> What's the desktop keyboard hotkey?
[14:40] <k1l_> John_John_: sorry, i dont know what you mean
[14:40] <someHuman> I just got into Ubuntu, how do I make myself safe with it? I have heard numerous complaints about this distro.
[14:40] <k1l_> someHuman: the windows button? names super-key
[14:41] <someHuman> Ah no, I was asking for the keyboard shortcut for desktop.
[14:41] <k1l_> someHuman: it is safe. if you have specific concerns ask in here
[14:41] <k1l_> someHuman: which keyboard shortcut? press long time super-key to see a shortcut listin
[14:41] <k1l_> g
[14:41] <someHuman> Well what I want my distro to do is act as it is really mine. No one's gonna slip through my PC.
[14:42] <gordonjcp> someHuman: avoid eating your Ubuntu install media, that is not safe. It is not a tasty snack.
[14:42] <someHuman> gordonjcp: Huh?
[14:42] <someHuman> I don't see any desktop shortcut in the dash list.
[14:42] <JaneSmith> John_John_  To allow sudo to start graphical application in X11, you need to add: Defaults env_keep += "HOME" to visudo
[14:43] <someHuman> By shortcut I mean, keyboard desktop shortcut.
[14:43] <k1l_> ?
[14:43] <John_John_> i have set up ubuntu as a lamp server so i can run http://localhost/phpmyadmin from the ubuntu browser. now i when i run this on my host machine it says it's forbidden. i have ubuntu on vmware on my mac.
[14:44] <someHuman> Sorry I accidentally closed my window. Can you repeat what you said?
[14:44] <k1l_> someHuman: press long time and hold the windows key and you will see that: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Ubuntu_Unity_Keyboard_shortcuts_-_En.png
[14:45] <k1l_> someHuman: if you want something other please rephrase your question
[14:46] <someHuman> I want to use a keyboard shortcut for showing desktop.
[14:46] <someHuman> Instead of using clicking icons.
[14:46] <someHuman> Which is supplied under Settings->Appearance.
[14:46] <BlueShark> Hello.
[14:47] <BlueShark> I recently upgraded my VPS to 13.10 and I'm now getting the error "Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80" when I try to restart Apache. What could be the reason?
[14:47] <k1l_> someHuman: crtl+super+d
[14:47] <gordonjcp> someHuman: have a look in the keyboard shortcuts settings
[14:48] <BlueShark> I did `netstat -lnp | grep :80` to check if there are any other processes running but that didn't output anything.
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> BlueShark: how are you starting apache?
[14:48] <BlueShark> hitsujiTMO, sudo service apache2 start
[14:48] <mrrcp> hey in terminal how can i change the timezone and make it stick with ntp
[14:48] <mrrcp> ?
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> BlueShark: and whats the output of apt-cache policy apache2
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> mrrcp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> mrrcp: ntp has nothing to do with timezone
[14:50] <BlueShark> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6897446/
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> BlueShark: have you updated your configs to be compatible with 2.4  .... previous ubuntus ran apache 2.2 and there are numerous changes to how the configs are done
[14:51] <mrrcp> ok
[14:51] <mrrcp> hitsujiTMO: that will stick during reboot?
[14:51] <someHuman> k1l_: Ah yes thanks!
[14:51] <mrrcp> 1 other question how do i get it off of utc
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> mrrcp: yup. if it doesn't then you have something major wrong with your system
[14:51] <someHuman> Also I wanna use my drivers.
[14:51] <BlueShark> hitsujiTMO, not sure if I did *everything*, but I did all the steps mentioned in this thread: http://askubuntu.com/a/362992/
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> mrrcp: utc is a timezone
[14:52] <someHuman> How do I use it?
[14:52] <k1l_> someHuman: what drivers?
[14:52] <k1l_> !details | someHuman
[14:52] <someHuman> Yeah sorry about that.
[14:52] <someHuman> I'd like to use my graphic drivers.
[14:52] <mrrcp> oops
[14:52] <mrrcp> its working !
[14:52] <mrrcp> thanks
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> mrrcp: if you want to keep your time synced you can use: ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com              in a cronjob
[14:53] <someHuman> Hello?
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> someHuman: you're not making sense. if you can see something on the screen then you are using a graphics driver
[14:54] <k1l_> someHuman: that depends heavyly on the ubuntu version, on the video card,..... so please state as many details as possible
[14:54] <someHuman> Oh ok sorry.
[14:54] <maysara> Hi, I'm trying to install MATLAB following these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB but when I excute this command "sudo /media/MATHWORKS_R2012A/install -v" it says "command not found". What is the problem here?
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> someHuman: do you want to use the proprietary driver for your gpu?
[14:54] <someHuman> I believe I am running the free driver, I'd like to use my graphic card to it's full potential.
[14:55] <someHuman> Yes, I like better graphics.
[14:55] <hitsujiTMO> someHuman: what gpu do you have?
[14:55] <k1l_> someHuman: as more details you give, as faster we can help you: which ubuntu exactly? which video card? ,.....
[14:57] <someHuman> I am running 13.04
[14:57] <someHuman> I have Radeon Graphics.
[14:57] <hitsujiTMO> someHuman: thats end of life. you need to upgrade to be able to install anything
[14:57] <someHuman> Okok.
[14:57] <k1l_> someHuman: congrats. that is right out of support. please upgrade t 13.10 first. then we think about other suff
[14:57] <moises> someHuman, in amd site
[14:57] <someHuman> Yeah am already actually upgrading my system because I got the Raring copy.
[14:58] <moises> there are a device driver for your video card
[14:58] <k1l_> moises: nope. dont load stuff from websites when there is the ubuntu repo
[14:58] <hitsujiTMO> someHuman: also the open drivers are better than the closed drivers for ati cards for most things
[14:58] <someHuman> hitsujiTMO: Why?
[14:58] <someHuman> i just want better graphics lol.
[14:58] <moises> k1l_, i prefer to download the driver from amd site
[14:58] <hitsujiTMO> someHuman: 2d acceleration sucks in the fglrx driver
[14:59] <mapps> hi folks
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> moises: doing so is unsupported
[14:59] <k1l_> someHuman: the manufacturers dont give that good drivers for linux as for windows. the free driver is quite good for amd, acutally
[14:59] <someHuman> For example I play Dota 2 in Steam, it has sucky graphics and whenever I propritary it's better but it screws up my system such as not being able to show atleast the sidebar menu.
[14:59] <moises> diablo 3 (in my computer) runs better with propietary driver
[14:59] <k1l_> moises: you prefer it, right. but the official ubuntu way is to use the ubuntu driver.
[14:59] <mapps> im struggling with squidguard - if i install from source it installs squid3 although i already have squid on - is it possible to install from a repo - some kind of depenency?
[14:59] <moises> ok k1l_
[14:59] <someHuman> Hmm
[14:59] <someHuman> Have anyone used Manjaro here?
[15:00] <someHuman> That showcases a decent graphics for Dota 2.
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> moises: i said "most" things work better. not everything
[15:00] <someHuman> If I am to use free driver I'd like to atleast have the same quality as of that from Manjaro.
[15:00] <moises> hitsujiTMO yes :)
[15:01] <k1l_> someHuman: first get the 13.10 upgrade. then you can install the fglrx package which brings you the amd driver from ubuntu support
[15:01] <hitsujiTMO> someHuman: manjaro isn't supported here. its just another flavour of linux. You'll get similar experience in ubuntu
[15:02] <fortysixandtwo> Hi! I have a strange problem. All the sudden some of my files seems to be binary, but they are not.. Some of them are javascript files. Any idea what could have happened?
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> fortysixandtwo: whats the output of: file filename
[15:03] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: how do they appear binary?
[15:03] <fortysixandtwo> config.js: data
[15:03] <JaneSmith> hitsujiTMO env_reset is used every time i run sudo?
[15:04] <fortysixandtwo> Nano tells me "file appears to be binary.. edit anyway?"
[15:04] <fortysixandtwo> hitsujiTMO: file config.js says "data"
[15:04] <hitsujiTMO> JaneSmith: yup. you are changing environment for the sudo command
[15:05] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: would you mind sharing the file?
[15:05] <hitsujiTMO> fortysixandtwo: hmmm, should be ASCII text
[15:06] <fortysixandtwo> Seveas: I can share another file.. which doesn't have database passwords.. just a simple .sh file
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> fortysixandtwo: what editors have you been using with the files?
[15:06] <fortysixandtwo> nano/vim
[15:06] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: that's only useful if that's affected with the same problem
[15:06] <fortysixandtwo> Seveas: It is
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> fortysixandtwo: please share that if it has the same output with file
[15:07] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: could you upload it somewhere?
[15:07] <Seveas> or zip it up and mail the zip to seveas@seveas.net
[15:07] <Seveas> (the zipping is to preserve it properly, I have a hunch and if I'm correct mail will maingle it further)
[15:08] <fortysixandtwo> Seveas: Thanks.. doing it now. Btw. you know any file sharing services? Like imgur for files
[15:09] <ostezer> hiya. What does "UTS" (as in namespaces) stand for?
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> fortysixandtwo: https://www.wetransfer.com/
[15:09] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: dropbox?
[15:09] <fortysixandtwo> Thanks.
[15:09] <Seveas> I have my own server, so rarely need that :)
[15:09] <fortysixandtwo> Damn, even my nginx.conf has the same issue
[15:10] <hitsujiTMO> fortysixandtwo: what filesystem is this?
[15:10] <Bombo> hi, i booted ubuntu in recovery mode, but i'm not allowed to write to / (/dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro))
[15:11] <Seveas> Bombo: are you root?
[15:11] <Seveas> Bombo: and what error do you get?
[15:11] <fortysixandtwo> hitsujiTMO: ext4 i think
[15:11] <hitsujiTMO> Bombo: start by telling us why you are in recovery mode
[15:12] <Bombo> Seveas: root@ubuntu:/etc$ touch foo
[15:12] <Bombo> touch: cannot touch `foo': Read-only file system
[15:12] <Seveas> Bombo: ok, so the filesystem has errors and has been remounted read-only
[15:12] <fortysixandtwo> Seveas: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2827003/starter.sh.zip
[15:12] <Seveas> Bombo: what does dmesg say?
[15:13] <Bombo> hitsujiTMO: as soon as nvidia modul loads i can't use the machine anymore. so i plan to remove it in recovery mode.
[15:13] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: wow, that's utterly messed up
[15:13] <fortysixandtwo> Seveas: Yes.. it seems like the whole disk is messed up..
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> fortysixandtwo: theres no file there only metadata
[15:14] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: the file is basically nothing but a bunch of 0 bytes, there's also a __MACOSX folder in there which makes me think you're not actually on Ubuntu...
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> fortysixandtwo: did someone delete the files? thats osx metadata
[15:14] <fortysixandtwo> Seveas: Downloaded it and zipped on mac
[15:15] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: ah
[15:15] <newb> I am booting ubuntu from usb stick; however, any window that I open fails to render its graphics correctly. It's all jumbled. Does anyone have a sense for what might be causing it and how to fix it?
[15:15] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: try that on Ubuntu first: tar zcvf problem.tar.gz /path/to/problem/file
[15:15] <Seveas> and mail the tar.gz
[15:15] <Seveas> or upload :)
[15:15] <fortysixandtwo> Ok, 1 sec
[15:15] <Bombo> Seveas: EXT4-fs (sda1): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem, EXT4-fs (sda1): write access will be enabled during recovery, EXT4-fs (sda1): recovery complete, EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[15:16] <hitsujiTMO> newb: what gpu do you have?
[15:16] <Seveas> Bombo: ok, so recovery complete. You can mount it rw: sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[15:17] <fortysixandtwo> Seveas: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2827003/starter.tar.gz
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> Bombo: can you pastebin the output of dmesg       and the contents of /var/log/syslog
[15:17] <newb> hitsujiTMO, I have two radeon 7950 GPUs currently connected to a Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P Motherboard.
[15:17] <Bombo> Seveas: oh, that simple, worked ;)
[15:18] <Seveas> fortysixandtwo: ok, still just a bunch of 0-bytes. Either someone has hacked your computer and is mangling all the files, or your disk is dying and you should back up as much as you can *right now*
[15:18] <loa> i love all ubuntu community <3
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> newb: what version of ubuntu?
[15:18] <Bombo> hitsujiTMO: about nvidia?
[15:18] <loa> my system is so stable ><
[15:18] <mib_mib> hi guys - when i use 'top' and sort by memory usage, it shows mysql is using 5.5% of memory, another process is using .7 %, and then a lot of 0%'s of memory - however, when i look at the Mem: it looks like Mem:  132005748k total, 59753076k used, 72252672k free - do i have more free than this actually? or why does it show so much is used
[15:19] <hitsujiTMO> Bombo: your system was mounted readonly for a reason. may have issues with a failing hdd. syslog or dmesg will contain info about such an issue if it is the case
[15:19] <Seveas> hitsujiTMO: read up, he pasted dmesg output :)
[15:19] <loa> mib_mib, there is another param
[15:20] <loa> it is called "cached"
[15:20] <newb> hitsujiTMO, I have Ubuntu-13.10 desktop amd 64. I am trying ubunto after having tried xumbutu. While I was successful booting to Xumbutu without any graphics problems, I could not get the internet connection to work. I tried both the Lan cable and wireless connection without success. I am hopeful ubuntu will enable me to connect to the internet.
[15:20] <loa> look at output of command # free
[15:20] <mib_mib> loa: but thats under the 'swap' row
[15:20] <hitsujiTMO> Seveas: ahh sorry :P
[15:20] <Bombo> hitsujiTMO: nope, probably just because it freezes when nvidia module is loaded/x is started, nothing works then, just hardware reboot button
[15:21] <mijk> hi
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> Bombo: ahh kk, you should be fine then
[15:21] <loa> mib_mib, it is not swap row, you have problems with output )
[15:21] <Bombo> i see many of these in syslog/dmesg: "NVRM: Xid (0000:01:00): 6, PE007e 0200 000000f3 00000000 00000000 00000000"
[15:21] <mijk> anyone have luck installing Ubuntu onto a Mid-2013 MacBook Air?
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> newb: 7k series isn't fully supported by the open driver atm. maybe try installing fglrx
[15:22] <mib_mib> loa: Mem:  132005748k total, 59771428k used, 72234320k free,   202364k buffers Swap:  4192188k total,        0k used,  4192188k free, 48756524k cached
[15:23] <Bombo> and i see watchdog taking ~100% when i managed to login via ssh, nothing more works
[15:23] <mib_mib> loa: looks like its in the 'swap' row to me....
[15:23] <mib_mib> loa: Mem:           125         57         68          0          0         46
[15:23] <fortysixandtwo> Okey... even stranger: "cat /var/log/auth.log" shows text, "less /var/log/auth.log" --> "/var/log/auth.log" may be a binary file.  See it anyway?
[15:23] <newb> hitsujiTMO: How can I do that install if the video output is not legible?
[15:24] <hitsujiTMO> newb: install fglrx from command line
[15:25] <loa> mib_mib, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screen.png
[15:25] <TJ-> Bombo: show us "lspci -nn | -s 01:00.0"
[15:25] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I know how to access a terminal connection in xubuntu and write commands there, but I do not know how to install fglrx from command line while booting ubuntu from my usb stick while the graphic output is not rendering correctly.
[15:26] <Bombo> i got /lib/modules/3.5.0-40-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_current.ko now will /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf 'blacklist nvidia_current' be enough to not load it when booting up? in lsmod i just see 'nvidia'
[15:27] <Bombo> TJ-: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce 8800 GTS 512] (rev a2)
[15:27] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ctrl + alt + f1 to get a cli
[15:27] <Bombo> TJ-: $ lspci -nn -s 01:00.0
[15:27] <Bombo> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce 8800 GTS 512] [10de:0600] (rev a2)
[15:28] <TJ-> Bombo: which Ubuntu version "cat /etc/issue" ?
[15:28] <Bombo> TJ-: Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[15:28] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Thank you. I will try that. Would the command read, "sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates"?
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> newb: don't use fglrx-updates
[15:29] <Bombo> TJ-: $ uname -a -> Linux ubuntu 3.5.0-40-generic #62-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 22 00:55:19 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> newb: just: sudo apt-get install fglrx
[15:30] <Bombo> found /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf hmm
[15:30] <TJ-> Bombo: There's a possible workaround in comment #7 of bug #694611
[15:34] <Bombo> TJ-: hmkay i'll try to blacklist the driver first, so i'm able to boot without recovery mode again
[15:36] <Bombo> 'update-rc.d -f lightdm remove' is this the right way to not start xorg anyways?
[15:36] <hitsujiTMO> Bombo: boot with kernel option "text"
[15:36] <hitsujiTMO> !text | Bombo
[15:38] <Spindel> What should I do if I want to give someone access to mysql over ssh? Only mysql, and no other things
[15:39] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I successfully entered command line and entered the installation command. 0 upgraded, 6 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. err could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.com'. If I could connect to the internet, I'd be happy. It's my inability to connect to the internet in xubuntu that made me look at ubuntu.
[15:40] <cryptexus> Spindel: something like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restricted_shell
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> newb: xubuntu + ubuntu are pretty much the same OS under the hood so you will run into same sort of hardware issues. what way are you connection to the net? wired or wireless?
[15:42] <okinawa> hi
[15:43] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I have tried a lan cable and I have tried wireless. Having no previous experience with linux, I'm not convinced I am trying it correctly. When opening firefox in xubuntu, I get server cannot be found.
[15:43] <okinawa> Someone speek french ?
[15:43] <cryptexus> okinawa: yes
[15:43] <spearhead> !fr | okinawa
[15:44] <okinawa> j'ai un problème de connexion avec mon Pc
[15:44] <okinawa> ok the
[15:44] <mapps> he has problem with connection
[15:44] <mapps> ;]
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> Spindel: set /usr/bin/mysql as the users shell
[15:45] <okinawa> ok gonna do that
[15:45] <mapps> hi guys could someone lend a hand with
[15:45] <mapps> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6897738/
[15:45] <mapps> many thanks :)
[15:46] <Spindel> hitsujiTMO: thats sounds like a good idea
[15:46] <spearhead> mapps, I don't see any errors...
[15:46] <mapps> mmf
[15:46] <mapps> sec
[15:46] <mapps> sorry
[15:46] <mapps> it didnt paste it
[15:47] <Spindel> hitsujiTMO: Btw, does that restrict sftp too?
[15:47] <Spindel> hitsujiTMO: Bc I dont whant him to use sftp
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> Spindel: ashouldn't
[15:47] <mapps> spearhead,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6897761/ thats qwhat i get now - installing squidguards from the repos
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> Spindel: restricting sftp would have to be done in the sshd config
[15:48] <newb> hitsujiTMO: could it be that my hardware is just not right for linux? Or is it more likely that I just need to configure linux correctly for my hardware?
[15:48] <hitsujiTMO> newb: depends. what hardware do you have?
[15:48] <Spindel> hitsujiTMO: Sure... So changing to mysql shell and restrict in sftp it will be no security concerns after that?
[15:48] <Spindel> hitsujiTMO: he will only access mysql?
[15:49] <mapps> i installed from source and couldnt get it to work it failed when running squidguard -c all so i went to the repos and im getting stuck with that
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> Spindel: cant think of any. just tested using su ans exiting mysql logged out the user
[15:50] <Spindel> hitsujiTMO: Ok, will try, thanks for help! :)
[15:50] <spearhead> mapps, have you tried installing with sudo apt-get install squidguard
[15:51] <mapps> hey spearhead  yea thats what i was trying when i first got this chown errors so i went to packages and got just the squidguard package..same error
[15:53] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I have a gigabyte GA-970A-D3P motherboard. Do you need more information that that?
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> newb: lspci -nn | grep Ethernet | grep -o '\[....:....\]'
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> newb: output of that would be perfect
[15:54] <lusy> hello
[15:55] <lusy> with ubuntu 12:04 I can not see a movie, it tells me active java (TM) what should I do?
[15:55] <TJ-> mapps: spearhead There's a bug in the update-squidguard post-install script; fixed in Debian/Trusty
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> !java | lusy
[15:55] <Encieux> hi there, having a strange permission issue when downloading. i have nas mounted via cifs to 12.04 server. everytime i start downloading something i get write permission denied. i have to manually do "sudo chown -R user /media/downloads" to get it to start.
[15:55] <spearhead> TJ, is there a way to get around that?
[15:56] <mapps> ahh TJ-  thanjs what can i do for now?
[15:56] <mapps> yea
[15:57] <lusy> hitsujiTMO,    classnotfoundexception----liveApplet.class
[15:57] <TJ-> mapps: spearhead checking the source package now
[15:57] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I typed into command the entire line lspci -nn | grep Ethernet | grep -o '\[....:....\]' and nothing output.
[15:57] <mapps> thanks .would it be better if i tried from the source?
[15:57] <someHuman> Where are executables found?
[15:57] <hitsujiTMO> lusy: the site itself is broken then
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[15:58] <hitsujiTMO> newb: try: lspci -nn | grep Network | grep -o '\[....:....\]'
[15:58] <someHuman> How do I make my custom keyboard shortcuts for executables?
[15:59] <lusy> hitsujiTMO, ok thanks
[16:00] <TJ-> mapps: Are you OK with doing some terminal magic to find the script and fix it?
[16:01] <spearhead> someHuman, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/assign-custom-shortcut-keys-on-ubuntu-linux/
[16:01] <mapps> with a bit of guidance possibly
[16:01] <mapps> check the post install file? then look for the script?
[16:01] <spearhead> someHuman, to get it to run a specific program you just type the program name where he puts in his script
[16:02] <newb> hitsujiTMO: again, nothing... when I type these commands there is no output and the command prompt refreshes.
[16:03] <mapps> TJ-,  is that what i need to do - you got a link with more details abou the bug or anything so i could read it the bug info and maybe fix it here
[16:03] <TJ-> mapps: We need to find the the file first. "sudo find /var/lib/dpkg -type f -name update-squidguard"
[16:03] <astroduck> Hi! I accidently did rm -r * in my home folder, Is there any way to recover the files? All hidden files are still there, I just lost all visiblefiles
[16:03] <TJ-> mapps: I don't see a bug-report, I've figured it out from reading the source-code
[16:03] <spearhead> someHuman, on second thought that might only be for gnome, I am looking into it for unity
[16:03] <someHuman> Loo
[16:03] <someHuman> Lol*
[16:04] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ok. gonna need the complete output of: lspci -knn                    you can dump it to a file with: lspci -knn > ~/lspci            also do: lsusb > ~/lsusb                           then copy those to a usb and pastebin it from another machine if you can
[16:05] <z0ran> astroduck: i dont think you can recover them
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> astroduck: you'd have to use photorec or similar software
[16:05] <spearhead> someHuman, I think this will work for unity http://askubuntu.com/questions/116052/custom-keyboard-shortcut-to-lauch-a-terminal-and-run-a-command-in-unity
[16:06] <spearhead> someHuman, where he says to enter gnome-terminal -e "ping -c4 [your domain here]" just put the name of the program you want to run...
[16:07] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I am not sure how to then copy those to a usb... can that be done on command line? How much is the output going to be? Could I take a photo of it and send that?
[16:07] <someHuman> I'd like to assign a shortcut for gedit, what's the path/syntax?
[16:07] <hitsujiTMO> newb: insert the usb. mount it. copy files. unmount.               photo will do if its clear
[16:11] <someHuman> spearhead Hey there.
[16:11] <Seveas> someHuman: shortcut? as in "hit ctrl alt f5 and gedit starts"?
[16:11] <someHuman> Yeah
[16:11] <mapps> TJ
[16:11] <mapps> it didnt find anything?
[16:11] <mapps> hm
[16:11] <someHuman> Seveas: Exactly.
[16:11] <Seveas> the path is /usr/bin/gedit and you can assign shortcuts with ccsm
[16:11] <someHuman> ccsm?
[16:12] <Seveas> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:12] <mapps> but
[16:12] <Seveas> someHuman: that --^
[16:12] <mapps> TJ can i pm you?
[16:13] <MKCoin> How can I limit the maximum allowed size of ~/.thumbnails?
[16:13] <mapps> TJ - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6897913/
[16:13] <mapps> locate found it
[16:13] <newb> hitsujiTMO: The output of lspci -knn is too much for a photo. I did the > ~/lspci but nothing seemed to happen. I suppose the output went to a file, but I don't know where the file is, how to access it, or copy it to the usb.
[16:13] <MKCoin> I'd like to keep it below 250 MB for performance reasons
[16:14] <mapps> id guess its the one in /usr/sbin?
[16:14] <astroduck> hitsujiTMO: Thanks I will try that
[16:14] <someHuman> Oh I don't think I have ccsm yet.
[16:14] <Seveas> someHuman: you'll need to install the compizconfig-settings-manager package
[16:14] <someHuman> Seveas: Can I not do it with just using the settings manager?
[16:14] <someHuman> I have bad experience with Compiz :(
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ~ is the home directory so it should be in your home
[16:15] <TJ-> mapps: OK, that's interesting, I knew it was launched from the postinst script, but didn't realise it was a part of the full package rather than a debian package script
[16:15] <someHuman> It messes up on how my OS looks like my experience before with Manjaro XFCE.
[16:15] <Seveas> someHuman: you're using compiz :)
[16:15] <Seveas> unity is a compiz plugin
[16:15] <someHuman> Oh
[16:15] <someHuman> Ah ok.
[16:15] <someHuman> So what do I put in command?
[16:15] <Seveas> /usr/bin/gedit
[16:16] <mapps> so i take it i need to open up the script and look at where it does chown - also looking at /var/lib/dpkg/info/squidguard.postinst?
[16:16] <TJ-> mapps: you can read it more easily now. If you do "less /usr/sbin/update-squidguard" I'll guide you to see the bug, then we can figure out the best way to work around it depending on whats on your system
[16:16] <newb> hitsujiTMO: How do I access the home and copy the file to USB? I am so new I do not know the most basic tasks. I sure do appreciate your help. Thank you. I see that the learning curve for me is steep. I sure would like to achieve the goal of connecting to the internet today. I wonder if there is more intensive help available. I would be willing to pay a fee, if that helps me to achieve the goal.
[16:17] <someHuman> spearhead Cool thanks man! ;)
[16:17] <mapps> TJ you here for a bit? gotta cook some food - got work in a bit :(
[16:17] <TJ-> mapps: Once you're in the 'less' viewer you can search using regular expressions. Type "/DATADIR" and press Enter
[16:18] <TJ-> mapps: The problem is the variable DATADIR isn't being set by the line DATADIR=$(grep ^dbhome ${CONFDIR}/${CONFFILE} | cut -d' ' -f2)
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> newb: insert the usb. type lsblk to find which device it is. most likely the partition for it is /dev/sdb1       then mount it: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt             then copy over the file: cp ~/lspci /mnt       then unmount: sudo umount /mnt
[16:18] <someHuman> Where do I find executables?
[16:18] <someHuman> spearhead Where do I find exectuables?
[16:19] <TJ-> mapps: That line is expanded to "DATADIR=$(grep ^dbhome /etc/squidguard/squidGuard.conf | cut -d' ' -f2)"
[16:20] <TJ-> mapps: So, you need to check "/etc/squidguard/squidGuard.conf" for a line beginning "dbhome" ... if that is missing, or is incomplete, DATADIR won't be assigned a value, causing a failure later doing "chown -R proxy:proxy ${DATADIR}"
[16:20] <mapps> yea
[16:20] <mapps> i see a line of dbhome
[16:21] <TJ-> mapps: notice the grep is followed by a "cut" of the 2nd field, with spaces as separators. What does that line look like?
[16:21] <mapps> sec
[16:21] <TJ-> mapps: If the 2nd field is missing, or spaces aren't used, that would explain the fault
[16:21] <mapps>  dbhome /usr/local/squidGuard/db
[16:22] <newb> hitsujiTMO: upon mounting a few different usb sticks, I get hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on part 1.
[16:23] <newb> hitsujiTMO: also, usb 6-1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[16:23] <prasanna> i'm new to ubuntu 13.04. i have hybrid video....i disable dedicated one. But problem is my system plan running always. How to fix it.I want automatic not manual .
[16:23] <hitsujiTMO> newb: and you've tried different ports?
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> prasanna: 13.04 is end of life and unsupported
[16:26] <TJ-> mapps: There's a leading space, which causes the assignment to be "dbhome" not "/usr/local/squidGuard/db" ... also, if that leading-space is only in your typing, then "/usr/local/squidGuard" suggests you've built a local package outside of the package management, which you haven't completely uninstalled - which is causing the Debian package to fail
[16:26] <Aeo_> hey, does anyone have any idea why i cant write to a cifs share mentioned to fstab, even though uid, gid, and rw are specified in the fstab
[16:27] <prasanna> i know that...i also want upgrade my system..but i have slow net connection...
[16:27] <wheatthin> Aeo_,  have you checked the permissions of the folders themselves?
[16:27] <prasanna> any solution for 13.04
[16:27] <Aeo_> wheatthin: all 777
[16:27] <wheatthin> yes, but who owns them?
[16:28] <spearhead> someHuman, sorry I had to step away from the computer for a little bit...
[16:28] <someHuman> spearhead Haha why?
[16:28] <Aeo_> wheatthin: i do
[16:28] <spearhead> someHuman, my wife needed some help...
[16:28] <someHuman> Ah ok ok.
[16:28] <someHuman> So where are executables found?
[16:29] <Aeo_> wheatthin: i have no idea why, and all the perms in the smb.conf are all 777. I have no idea
[16:29] <spearhead> someHuman, you don't need to know exactly where the executables are found, say you want to open firefox, if you open a terminal and type firefox it will open...
[16:29] <someHuman> Nah I want to tidy up my desktop by just using keyboard shortcuts.
[16:30] <spearhead> someHuman, so you go to System Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Custom Shortcuts hit the + button
[16:30] <Spindel> Hmm, I followed a guide that seemed to crasch my ssh login. Am I doomed forever now?
[16:30] <agd> Spindel: yep.
[16:30] <agd> Spindel: you're basically helpless now.
[16:30] <someHuman> Ok ok, so where are executables found?
[16:30] <someHuman> So next time I won't  bother much asking you haha!
[16:31] <spearhead> someHuman, what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:31] <Spindel> agd: I did the "Match User bob" thing in this  -> http://serverfault.com/questions/290843/how-to-disable-sftp-for-some-users-but-keep-ssh-enabled
[16:31] <agd> haha!
[16:31] <agd> Spindel: lemme check it out
[16:31] <someHuman> I want  to use hotkeys instead of clicking icons.
[16:31] <spearhead> someHuman, from what you have said you want to open a program just by using a keyboard shortcut?
[16:31] <Spindel> agd: I cant even login with root user now :(
[16:31] <agd> Spindel: you just got catfished, this was a trap.
[16:32] <someHuman> spearhead Exactly.
[16:32] <agd> Spindel: aww :(
[16:32] <agd> Spindel: well, hold on.
[16:32] <agd> Spindel: reinstall ssh.
[16:32] <Spindel> I cant reinstall without ssh
[16:32] <Spindel> its a server
[16:32] <Aeo_> someHuman: look into gnome do
[16:32] <Spindel> i access it with ssh
[16:33] <someHuman> Aeo_:  Huh?
[16:33] <agd> Spindel: you're f*cked, dude.
[16:33] <Spindel> agd: But why did it kill my ssh?
[16:33] <agd> Spindel: you got one option; make a backup and then, format.
[16:33] <someHuman> What's the best way to make my Ubuntu safe and secure?
[16:33] <agd> someHuman: you're never secure.
[16:33] <agd> someHuman: you'll always be owned.
[16:33] <someHuman> :(
[16:33] <agd> someHuman: but...
[16:33] <agd> someHuman: you may use selinux.
[16:33] <someHuman> Yes, but...
[16:34] <agd> someHuman: it'll keep the least amount of hackers away.
[16:34] <spearhead> someHuman, ok, are you trying to get rid of the unity dash? or just your icons on the desktop?
[16:34] <someHuman> Yes
[16:34] <someHuman> I don't want the sidebar haha!
[16:34] <agd> haha!
[16:35] <someHuman> Hmm, just curious, why did you guys opted for Ubuntu?
[16:35] <spearhead> someHuman, have you looked into using a different window manager such as gnome or kde?
[16:35] <agd> someHuman: aren't sidebars silly?
[16:35] <Aeo_> someHuman: GnomeDo is an application launcher. You hit a hotkey sequence, and type some characters that are inn the app name, hiit enter and launches
[16:35] <agd> they are just as silly as spearhead getting laid.
[16:35] <ROODAY> is this a place to ask for ubuntu help?
[16:35] <agd> (sorry to offend ya there, spearhead)
[16:35] <someHuman> ROODAY: Sure is!
[16:35] <Aeo_> someHuman: eg, i ht ctrl+space, type chr and hit enter, and chrome loads
[16:35] <agd> Aeo_: well that is somewhat confusing as GnomeDo usually gives you segfaults.
[16:35] <ROODAY> ok
[16:35] <agd> ROODAY: ok
[16:35] <ROODAY> I just shrank my win7 partition
[16:35] <ROODAY> but
[16:35] <spearhead> agd, the problem with that statement is that I probably get laid more than you do... :P
[16:35] <agd> daaaaaaamn
[16:35] <ROODAY> do i have to make a partition in goarted
[16:35] <someHuman> Aeo_:  Ah that's a nice app.
[16:35] <agd> well, who cares about win7 anyway?
[16:36] <ROODAY> or does it do so in the isntall of ubuntu?
[16:36] <agd> ROODAY: do you care about win7?
[16:36] <ROODAY> yes im setting up multiboot
[16:36] <ROODAY> steamos/win7/ubuntu
[16:36] <hitsujiTMO> Spindel: your provider should have a recovery iso that you can use to fix it
[16:36] <agd> steamos is for gay fags
[16:36] <agd> are you gay, ROODAY
[16:36] <someHuman> Hmmm
[16:37] <ROODAY> i made some free space on my hdd, i just want to know if i have to create partitions now or if the installer will make the partitions?
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | agd enough of the messing
[16:37] <tweakdeveloper> Have you already installed SteamOS?
[16:37] <someHuman> How do I know what DE am using?
[16:37] <ROODAY> i havent installed anything yet
[16:37] <ROODAY> my laptop is currently in the live cd
[16:38] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I get identical output no matter what usb 2.0 port I use. The motherboard has two usb 3.0 ports. One of those ports has the usb stick with ubuntu on it. The other of those ports has my mouse connected to it. I removed the mouse and mounted the usb stick and I got the following on screen output: No caching mode page found. Assuming drive cache: write through.
[16:38] <ROODAY> and im shrinking the win7 partition to get some free space for ubuntu and steam os
[16:38] <spearhead> someHuman, the default that comes with ubuntu is unity, unless you have installed something else then you are using unity
[16:38] <hitsujiTMO> ROODAY: the installer will detecy the free space and make partitions for you
[16:38] <someHuman> Nah fosho am using Unity.
[16:38] <Spindel> hitsujiTMO: Yeah, I will contact them
[16:38] <someHuman> But how do I know my DE though?
[16:38] <hitsujiTMO> Spindel: ity should be available from your control panel
[16:39] <ROODAY> it will make the swap as well? will it also let me choose partition sizes? i want to make sure there is a shared fat32 partition between all Os's
[16:39] <tweakdeveloper> ROODAY: For a setup like yours, you'll probably need to manually create an Ubuntu root and swap partition and leave free space for a SteamOS root.
[16:39] <ROODAY> so do it now through gparted, or do it through the manual part of the ubuntu installation?
[16:39] <spearhead> someHuman, i am pretty sure ubuntu now comes with lightde
[16:39] <spearhead> someHuman, I will look into it though..
[16:40] <tweakdeveloper> I've always done it with the Ubuntu installer's manual option, but you could do it with Gparted.
[16:40] <ROODAY> ok ill do it through the installer then, i feel it will guide me better
[16:40] <spearhead> someHuman, sorry it is lightdm or light desktop manager
[16:40] <prasanna> how to check my hard disk health in ubuntu...because when i using ubuntu sometime i hear noise..but when using win 7 nothing....
[16:40] <ROODAY> will it say what partition type is needed for the swap and root? i don't know what they should be
[16:40] <tweakdeveloper> Yeah, it's much more streamlined creating partitions as part of a process than beforehand.
[16:40] <spearhead> *display
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> newb: thats a normal message.
[16:41] <tweakdeveloper> For Linux, the de facto standard filesystem for root is ext4.  For swap, just choose "swap space" from the options.
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> newb: mount it away and copy over the files
[16:42] <someHuman> spearhead So.....
[16:42] <ROODAY> ok thanks!
[16:42] <someHuman> spearhead How's it?
[16:42] <tweakdeveloper> Glad to help :)
[16:43] <someHuman> spearhead Gotta cook, cya later! ;)
[16:43] <spearhead> someHuman, unity is the de (desktop environment) if you want to try gnome logout and log back in using ubuntu GNOME DE
[16:43] <ROODAY> hopefully i dont screw anything up lol
[16:44] <tweakdeveloper> As long as you don't delete the Windows partitions and have a backup, you should be fine.
[16:48] <tyler_d> been a long time since I've been here :) hello everyone
[16:48] <kutulal> hello everyone
[16:49] <kutulal> I am getting this error:fetchmail: MDA returned nonzero status 73
[16:50] <kutulal> can anyone help me,please?
[16:50] <ROODAY> I have just one last question i forgot to ask
[16:50] <estudiante> analia zeballo
[16:50] <ROODAY> should the partitions for swap and root be logical or primary?
[16:51] <ROODAY> ?
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> ROODAY: what partition table do you have mbr?
[16:52] <ROODAY> what does that mean?
[16:52] <kutulal> hello everyone
[16:52] <ROODAY> mbr?
[16:53] <kutulal> I am getting this error while downloading mails from Gmail
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> ROODAY: ok if you're asking " logical or primary" and you are installing 3 OS's, then the answer is logical
[16:53] <kutulal> procmail: Couldn't create "/var/mail/kutu-ubuntu"fetchmail: MDA returned nonzero status 73
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> ROODAY: you can only have up to 4 primary partitions on an mbr/msdos partition table
[16:53] <ROODAY> so for the swap and the roots for both OS's should be logical, and leave the ones that are primary as primary?
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> ROODAY: yup
[16:54] <ROODAY> ok thanks!
[16:54] <kutulal> please help!
[16:55] <rishabh> quit
[16:58] <Danith> umm.. hello
[16:58] <Danith> can anyone give me a quick how to on finding what package installed some files?
[16:59] <Danith> fromthe command line
[16:59] <Danith> I'm trying to remove vmci, vsock, vmxnet3, pvscsi, vmmemctl
[17:00] <hitsujiTMO> Danith: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[17:01] <hitsujiTMO> Danith:  vmxnet3 is a driver. infact, i'd guess they are all drivers.
[17:02] <Danith> they are, I'm trying to remove what ever is included in a base install and install the ones from the guest tools cd
[17:04] <thepiratetrader> So I've got a bit of a problem. I don't think it's necessarily ubuntu, but more drive related. I've got a 32gb drive. When I do "watch lsusb" and plug it in, it shows up, but doesn't look right, then dissapears after 5-10 seconds.
[17:04] <thepiratetrader> Any ideas?
[17:04] <hitsujiTMO> Danith: they're in ther kernel. so removing them would be difficult. what virtualisation solution is it? esxi?
[17:04] <thepiratetrader> dmesg says unable to assign something rather error -62. It recognzies that it is a usb storage unate.
[17:04] <newb> hitsujiTMO: How do I mount it exactly? I thought mounting it meant plugging it into the port.
[17:05] <hitsujiTMO> newb: use lsblk to foind the device node (prob /dev/sdb1) then: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt       that will mount it to /mnt
[17:07] <paul`> I'm in stuck emacs how change channel?  I find the interface kinda foreign, sorry people.  Yet enjoying my first hand experience so far.
[17:07] <Danith> esxi
[17:07] <Danith> I can use the clobber option to have the install overwrite them
[17:07] <Danith> I just thought they were put in by a ubuntu package and didn't want to mess that up
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> Danith: what kernel are you using: uname -r
[17:09] <BlueShark> How to correctly check if port 80 is open and any services are using that port?
[17:10] <BlueShark> I'm getting this error when I try to restart apache2: "(98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80" - What could be the reason?
[17:11] <OerHeks> lsof -i :<portnumber>
[17:11] <hitsujiTMO> BlueShark: or sudo netstat -plnt | grep ':80'
[17:11] <USBman> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu on to an 8GB USB stick, but it keeps giving me a bunch of errors at different points. If I try a very basic install, no encryption, it tells me "You need to make this partition bigger than the amount below / 3.2 GB" Which when I open the partition manager, it shows that the install program only allocated it 2.4 GB...
[17:11] <OerHeks> could be your host interferring
[17:12] <BlueShark> OerHeks, Tried that already and it outputs nothing
[17:12] <USBman> I started with 7.7GB of unallocated space.
[17:12] <BlueShark> hitsujiTMO, okay, that doesn't output anything either. I changed 80 to a different port number and it outputs results.
[17:13] <BlueShark> OerHeks, "host interfering" - Could you explain? I recently upgraded my Ubuntu version to 13.10 and this problem started after doing so.
[17:13] <Danith> hitsujiTMO - 3.11.0-12-generic
[17:14] <hitsujiTMO> BlueShark: maybe its trying to bind to ipv6 and you dont have ipv6 running?
[17:14] <Danith> I'm used to compiling my own kernel and not having anything in there I don't want :)
[17:14] <BlueShark> hitsujiTMO, How do I check what it's binding to?
[17:14] <Danith> not a big deal, I'll just clobber them
[17:14] <hitsujiTMO> Danith: the esxi tools modules wont compile on that kernel. the kernel also has newer drivers so you're better off with the kernel drivers
[17:14]  * Danith smashes
[17:14] <Danith> o rly
[17:15] <someHuman> Chromium or Firefox?
[17:15] <Danith> I don't like the (3rd party tool) listed ;)
[17:15] <Danith> I'll just leave it
[17:15] <Danith> welp
[17:15] <hitsujiTMO> Danith: esxi tools modules wont compile with kernels > 3.2
[17:15] <Danith> whaaat
[17:15] <hitsujiTMO> Danith: vmware actually suggest using the open vm tools in the repo
[17:15] <Danith> :O
[17:16] <Danith> well ok
[17:16] <BlueShark> hitsujiTMO, I've checked my ports.conf and it only has "Listen 80", which, according to the documentation page "makes the server accept connections on both port 80 on ALL interfaces"."
[17:17] <BlueShark> !poll | someHuman
[17:20] <someHuman> Ok, thanks! ;)
[17:21] <USBman> Anyone here heard of issues when installing Ubuntu 13.10 to a USB 8GB
[17:21] <USBman> ?
[17:21] <USBman> I am having issues
[17:22] <newb> hitsujiTMO: the drive is now mounted. copy command resulted in: cp: cannot stat '/home/ubuntu/lspci': No such file or directory
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> newb: redo it: lspci -nn > ~/lspci
[17:23] <lnx21> USB?  Please use  usb HDD.     I use HDD. Works better!
[17:23] <mapps> tj ot a sec i dont know what to do - howcome noone else has this issue
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> newb: or even: lspci -nn > /mnt/lspci.txt
[17:23] <mapps> i expeced to see it on ubuntuforums
[17:23] <lnx21> outbox HDD works better , i have 500GB HDD  in USB
[17:24] <hitsujiTMO> mapps: very few peeps run servers on a non lts build. especially if they are running squid
[17:24] <mapps> aha
[17:24] <mapps> ok
[17:24] <mapps> thanks mate
[17:26] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I am three days behind where I thought I'd be in this process. Achievement here is going to test my patience beyond what I thought. If you believe you can help me to achieve my goals, I would pay you for telephone support. If not, I'll stick to this webchat. I do appreciate your help very much. Output of the latest command reads: -bash: /mnt/lspci.txt: Permission denied
[17:27] <hitsujiTMO> newb: use sudo:      lspci -nn | sudo tee /mnt/lspci.txt
[17:28] <whoever> newb: what is your issue
[17:29] <p_2v71> Hello - I'm new to ubuntu 12.04.  I'm having a problem with my computer NIC card not being recognized most of the time.  I was able to get all updates to 12.04 installed as of a few days ago.
[17:29] <whoever> newb: where are you stuck at
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> newb: then once you have that done. unmount it before removing: sudo umount /mnt
[17:30] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I have quite a bit of on screen feedback. I presume the file has been written. Is there another command you'd like me to run before unmounting the usb to tranfer to windows machine for sharing with you?
[17:30] <whoever> pinnen: is your ip static, or dinamic
[17:30] <p_2v71> DHCP from router
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> newb: do this too: lsusb | sudo tee /mnt/lsusb.txt
[17:31] <p_2v71> I had to install a NIC because my onboard NIC died
[17:31] <hitsujiTMO> newb: then unmount
[17:31] <whoever> pinnen: it is an internal nic not a usb dongle correct ?
[17:31] <p_2v71> correct
[17:31] <hitsujiTMO> p_2v71: whats the output of: lspci -nn | grep Ethernet | grep -o '\[....:....\]'
[17:32] <p_2v71> give me a minue to try that on the ubuntu machine
[17:32] <mapps> TJ-,  its cutting the result of the cmd with the space delimiter and getting 2nd  field ? so the /usr/local/squidGuard/db ?
[17:32] <p_2v71> thanks for the assistance
[17:33] <newb> whoever: I am recently assembled a machine with parts I bought on newegg.com. I have successfully booted to xubuntu from usb stick; however, I am unable to access the internet when doing so.  Firefox outputs, "Unable to connect to server." To solve the internet problem, I tried booting to ubuntu; however, none of the window graphics render correctly. I've been told that ubuntu does like my radeon 7950 gpu. I am now trying to solve that i
[17:33] <mapps> ah no i am wrong
[17:33] <newb> hitsujiTMO: What is the unmount command I should use?
[17:33] <TJ-> mapps: What you showed here had a leading space, that would cause the assignment to be "dbhome" not "/usr/local/squidGuard/db" ... also, if that leading-space is only in your typing, then "/usr/local/squidGuard" suggests you've built a local package outside of the package management, which you haven't completely uninstalled - which is causing the Debian package to fail
[17:34] <newb> hitsujiTMO: never mind, I see it.
[17:34] <mapps> ahh
[17:34] <mapps> yea i did type it i think
[17:34] <mapps> because
[17:34] <mapps> basically what a mess
[17:34] <mapps> when i was installing from the repos it was erroring saying no config file in the dir so i made a basic one
[17:34] <mapps> and that fixed that - or got past that problem
[17:35] <yacc> Best tool to torture-testing memory in Saucy?
[17:35] <impaktor_> hitsujiTMO: Hi, I was here earlier today about the broken linux-headers-generic-pae. Did some googeling, and seems like this is a but, causing that package to eat inodes. I see a lot of people with the same issue. I don't have access to the fault laptop anymore (was helping a friend). Just wanted to drop that as a note here. also, is it "safe" to remove them manually as suggested in the last post here:
[17:35] <impaktor_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2112441 ?
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> yacc: memtest ofc
[17:35] <TJ-> mapps: OK... so if the space doesn't exist in the config file we move onto the "/usr/local/squidGuard" path ... I'm thinking you'd be best simply purging everything for that package including the config files, and starting clean
[17:35] <yacc> memtest the tool that installs itself into GRUB?
[17:35] <whoever> newb: so your tring to run the live version of ubuntu ?
[17:35] <Tom> what does pae and non par kernel means in linux?
[17:35] <mapps> ok apt-get remove squid3 squidguard ?
[17:35] <bazhang> !pae | Tom
[17:36] <PeterCassetta> Hi, does anyone know how to change the default selected menu entry (Grub2)
[17:36] <mapps> i think it was a space!!
[17:36] <yacc> hitsujiTMO: a kernel compile loop sounds so 90-ish for testing system integrity.
[17:36] <bazhang> thats out of date
[17:36] <TJ-> mapps: I *think* this should purge it, but it might fail since the package isn't fully configured yet. "sudo apt-get purge squidguard"
[17:36] <hitsujiTMO> impaktor_: yes you've a LOT of kernel header packages so you can safely remove the old ones
[17:36] <whoever> newb: you may have a bad burn of the disk
[17:36] <Tom> which kernel should we use pae or non pae for modern hardwares?
[17:36] <raiz0> heloo
[17:36] <mapps> TJ-,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6898404/
[17:36] <newb> whoever: yes, a live version from usb stick. my setup has no hard drive. the end goal here is to connect to the internet.
[17:36] <whoever> newb: i would try burning it again at a slower speed
[17:36] <PeterCassetta> Last time I changed it (several years ago, from Ubuntu to Windows), I seem to remember it being as simple as a single terminal command
[17:37] <mapps> when i went back to the config file and just pressed delete removed and re-instaleld it works
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> Tom: 64bit
[17:37] <impaktor_> hitsujiTMO: thanks.
[17:37] <raiz0> my hacking you kumpute bomb
[17:37] <TJ-> Tom: PAE allows a 32-bit kernel to access more than 4GB of address-space, and is standard on all recent Ubuntu kernels
[17:37] <mapps> so i was an idiot and added q white space i think
[17:37] <p_2v71> it says "grep: Trailing backslash"
[17:37] <newb> whoever: I used lili live usb creator to setup the ubuntu
[17:37] <TJ-> mapps: OK... you've fixed it :)
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> Tom: don't use 32bit on modern hardware. use 64bit
[17:37] <newb> whoever: I did the same for xubuntu
[17:37] <whoever> newb: the live version will be extreemly slow and you may experience what your are experiencing, your best bet is to install it
[17:37] <mapps> but - TJ i only did that because when installing squidguard from the repos it was failing saying no config found - which shouldnt be happening?
[17:37] <mapps> and i broke it
[17:37] <mapps> lol
[17:37] <mapps> :D
[17:37] <mapps> thanks mate
[17:38] <PeterCassetta> So now I just want to figure out where or how it is that I set the default menu entry
[17:38] <TJ-> mapps: Let's not open that can of worms! If the repo versions are broken let someone else fix it for now :)
[17:38] <mapps> ok:D
[17:38] <Tom> TJ: which kernel is better, i mean which kernel will boot  on any computer pae one or non pae kernel?
[17:38] <whoever> newb:  i would still install it vs running the live version
[17:38] <mapps> the real test is if squidguard -c ALL works ( when I compiled by source i was getting an error about DB->put method) then when using repos it just seemed to hang ..fingers crossed else im still stiumped!!
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> PeterCassetta: GRUB_DEFAULT= in /etc/default/grub
[17:39] <TJ-> Tom: Both will boot ... the PAE will access more than 4GB of address space, which helps if the PC has more than 4GB of RAM
[17:39] <PeterCassetta> hitsujiTMO: Yeah right now it's set to "saved"
[17:39] <newb> whoever: that is not possible now without another equipment purchase. I do not believe that is needed. But I do appreciate your feedback. Thank you.
[17:39] <p_2v71> ?
[17:39] <Tom> TJ: that means any kernel whether pae or non pae can boot on any pc?
[17:39] <PeterCassetta> Which leads me to wonder where exactly it's retrieving that value from
[17:40] <whoever> newb: how is that not possible,
[17:40] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I have the text files ready. How do I share them with you?
[17:40] <hitsujiTMO> PeterCassetta: give it an integer value pertaining to your grub menu option
[17:40] <whoever> you can dl in a terminal
[17:40] <TJ-> Tom: yes
[17:40] <hitsujiTMO> newb: paste.ubuntu.com
[17:40] <PeterCassetta> hitsujiTMO: Cool, I'll do that.
[17:40] <Tom> TJ: thanks a lot for the info.
[17:40] <PeterCassetta> hitsujiTMO: 0 for first option, correct?
[17:40] <whoever> newb: it is completly possible
[17:40] <hitsujiTMO> PeterCassetta: yessum, then run: sudo update-grub
[17:41] <newb> whoever: I do not have a hard drive connected to this machine.
[17:41] <soko> On a 12.10 VM I removed gnome-shell and some other packages (including cinammon) because I wanted to return to Unity. Now when I try to login the screen blanks out and throws me back to the login screen. The gues user can login fine into Unity. I have opened a bare shell and I have tried a ton of different things I've found posted but nothing helped. Any ideas would be most welcome!
[17:41] <PeterCassetta> hitsujiTMO: Cool, thanks for the assistance.
[17:41] <whoever> newb: why not
[17:42] <whoever> newb: running live iso is an extreemly slow process, and you are likly to incounter errors
[17:42] <newb> whoever: While I have a hard drive that I could use, I have no sata cables to connect it. I would have to leave the house, go buy the cables, come back, and do the hard drive installation. There is no hard drive, because the guide I used to setup this machine said it was not necessary. This is the first machine I've ever assembled and this is the first time I'm using linux./
[17:42] <Tom> TJ: can i boot a 32 bit linux distro in a uefi machine?
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> Tom: no. linux uefi requires 64bit kernel
[17:43] <whoever> newb: sounds like you got yourself in a pickle here
[17:43] <TJ-> Tom: Only in compatibility mode
[17:43] <Tom> you sure?
[17:43] <Tom> TJ: what is the compatibility mode?
[17:44] <TJ-> Tom: UEFI requires a disk with GPT partitioning and an EFI boot-loader. UEFI firmwares usually have a CSM (Compatibility Support Module) to allow booting from legacy MBR
[17:44] <hitsujiTMO> p_2v71: try again. you may have mistyped it: lspci -nn | grep Ethernet | grep -o '\[....:....\]'
[17:45] <newb> whoever: the original guide I read made it sound pretty easy. the guide said nothing about encountering internet connectivity issues in xubuntu.
[17:45] <newb> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6898449/
[17:45] <hitsujiTMO> newb: once you
[17:45] <Guest93373> heyyeah!!! i'm a noob here...
[17:45] <Tom> TJ: that means we can boot a 32 bit os in it? i have a 32 bit Ubuntu.
[17:45] <TJ-> Tom: Yes, if the UEFI is set to boot in legacy mode
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> newb: oh dear god a 8186 :(
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> newb: a 8186 even :(
[17:46] <Tom> TJ: the legacy can boot a 32 it os right? does all uefi machines have this legacy mode?
[17:46] <newb> hitsujiTMO: That is, apparently, not good.
[17:46] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Or even an 8168 :)
[17:46] <chaotix> huston we have a problem,
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> newb no its not.
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: bah :P
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> newb: whats the output of: uname -r
[17:47] <Tom> it gives u ur kernel version.
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> newb: you said this was 13.10 right?
[17:48] <newb> hitsujiTMO: output is 3.11.0-12-generic
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ubuntu 13.10 right?
[17:49] <chaotix> so i ran the Software Updater this morning, and it crashed mid update, and then i could not get it to restart, and things kept crashing, so i tried logging out, but instead of a log in screen i just got a black screen with a blinking "_" cursor, so i cold boot, and select ubuntu from the grub, and then after the plymouth boot screen all that loads again is the blinking cursor
[17:49] <chaotix> so i have loaded up windows now
[17:49] <newb> hitsujiTMO: That is right.
[17:49] <chaotix> do i have any options other than re install?
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> newb: give me a 15 mins to prepare soemthing
[17:49] <Guest93373> how can i start hotspot on ubuntu
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> newb: 32bit or 64bit?
[17:50] <Guest93373> 64bit
[17:50] <whoever> hitsujiTMO: what cpu is he using
[17:50] <Danith> oh ya, this is why I didn't want to use the openvm tools
[17:50] <Danith> vmw_vsock_vmci_transport: Unknown symbol __vsock_create (err 0)
[17:50] <Danith> bunch of errors like that in dmesg
[17:50] <newb> hitsujiTMO: 64 bit. Thank you for the preparation. Do you have any confidence that I will be online using the internet anytime today or in the next month, for that matter?
[17:50] <p_2v71> I had an extra space - output is [1002:4342] and [1186:1300]
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> newb: not sure. the driver for that card is really awful
[17:51] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Perhaps it is helpful to know that I am trying to mine litecoin with this machine. I had read that this GPU and the xumbutu setup was ideal. I spent $2200 on all this equipment.
[17:52] <whoever> a hotspot , you mean connecto to a wireless router ?
[17:52] <hitsujiTMO> newb: you can go even lighter than xubuntu
[17:53] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I started using this guide: http://www.cryptobadger.com/2013/04/build-a-litecoin-mining-rig-linux/
[17:53] <whoever> newb: 2200 what are you tring to do
[17:54] <arez> ciao
[17:54] <whoever> newb: to me it sounds like your tring to make some sort of a headless server . are you?
[17:54] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Here is a picture of the machine we are trying to configure and get connected to the internet: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/b7qwFrc6_0dR44Mlk3vTA-GnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[17:54] <Danith> oh well.. stuff on the interweb is sparse on those errors
[17:55] <p_2v71> I had an extra space - output is [1002:4342] and [1186:1300]
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> newb: hehe good old milk crate rig
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> p_2v71: looking them up atm. they both seem very obscure
[17:56] <newb> whoever: I don't know what a headless server is, so I'm not sure. I'm trying to get this connected to the internet so I can run cgminer. I've been aware of cryptocurrencies for two years but really started to read up on them in November.
[17:56] <Danith> headless means no monitor/graphicscard/keyboard mainly
[17:56] <Tom> hitsujiTMO: can we boot a 32 bit os in uefi machine using legacy mode?
[17:56] <Danith> connect and manage it through ssh or whatever
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> Tom: yes. legacy mode disables uefi
[17:57] <newb> whoever: I've successfully mined some litecoin with a desktop computer with an old GPU, but my kh/s was no greater than 35. With this machine I hope to get to 2000 or more.
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> Tom: but you will get much better performance on a 64bit install
[17:57] <ignacio|her> Why now
[17:57] <ignacio|her> ubuntu 12.04 ask for 8.GB!?
[17:57] <ignacio|her> tHAT'S Impossible!
[17:58] <Tom> hitsujiTMO: that means if uefi is disabled and then a 32 bit os can be booted?
[17:58] <newb> hitsujiTMO: You know the milk crate rig? Ever do this before?
[17:58] <p_2v71> I had a hard time finding any info on it as well - I thing it was made in korea - I googled IDEQ 210A (the pc model) and didn't find much.
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> Tom: yes
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> newb: no i've helped a few peeps who have
[17:59] <newb> hitsujiTMO: so maybe there's hope! I thought I'd be mining coin by now! I am curious to see whatever it is you're preparing.
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> p_2v71: is this an old machine. both cards seem to be pretty old and not propperly supported in modern kernels. like they're from the 2.4 kernel era
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> newb: need to get the build-essential debs for you so you can build your driver
[18:00] <p_2v71> It is an old PC - I believe I bought it in 2004 or 5
[18:01] <hitsujiTMO> p_2v71: the kernel driver "should" be built in, but i don't think it actually works.
[18:01] <Danith> !
[18:02] <p_2v71> so the randomly working a small portion of the time is probably normal because of the hardware age?
[18:03] <p_2v71> for the NIC I mean
[18:03] <hitsujiTMO> p_2v71: because of the driver quality is how i'd phrase it
[18:04] <p_2v71> Do you have any suggestions to make it work?  I have downloaded the windows drivers for the NIC I installed in it.  Can I use those somehow?
[18:04] <soee> hi, what package contains H.264 decoder ?
[18:04] <Oun_> lo ppl
[18:05] <Oun_> someone can help? I cant put my USB internet adapter working on linux/virtulbox
[18:05] <Oun_> its recognized but still dont work
[18:06] <Oun_> dmesg says; Failed to initialize the device
[18:06] <Oun_> any ideas?
[18:06] <whoever> Oun_: did you restart networking
[18:06] <hitsujiTMO> p_2v71: nope. can't think of anyway to get it working.    one thing i spotted mentioned adding the kernel param: acpi=off
[18:06] <aLeSD> hi all
[18:06] <whoever> aLeSD: hi
[18:07] <aLeSD> what's the package nvidia-update is needed for ?
[18:07] <p_2v71> How would I do that?
[18:07] <whoever> aLeSD: maybe to update your nvidia
[18:07] <p_2v71> btw - I'm new to IRC as well
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | p_2v71 check this out. instead of adding nomodeset add acpi=off
[18:08] <p_2v71> Thanks for the help hitsujiTMO
[18:08] <whoever> p_2v71: yoour on ubuntu and your using windows drivers  that will not work
[18:09] <whoever> pipster: is your windows in a vm
[18:09] <whoever> pipster: oops wrong nic
[18:09] <Oun_> whoever, restart networking? I guess so but not sure
[18:09] <Oun_> can you tell me how
[18:09] <p_2v71> No, I'm not.  I asked if they could be used (thinking about the wrapper thing for windows drivers)
[18:10] <whoever> Oun_: sudo service networking restart
[18:10] <Oun_> let me try
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ok. download this: http://download.hitsuji.eu/build.tar.gz
[18:10] <whoever> p_2v71: the only way you would use windows drivers is for tativly running windos
[18:11] <aLeSD> mmm ... why my cpu is to 100% when I play a mp4 video ?
[18:11] <Oun_> ok done
[18:11] <Oun_> still the same
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> aLeSD: because you don't have any 2d gpu acceleration?
[18:11] <Oun_> ifconfig shows me 2 lo
[18:11] <Oun_> no wlan
[18:11] <whoever> Oun_: ok, with the dongle plugged in try rebooting and see if that works
[18:12] <aLeSD> hitsujiTMO, I have this 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 620 OEM]
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> aLeSD: what are you using to playback the video?
[18:12] <aLeSD> I tried open-source and proprietary drives
[18:12] <aLeSD> hitsujiTMO, I tried with vlc and the default media player
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> aLeSD: not sure then. what rsolution is the vid?
[18:13] <aLeSD> full HD
[18:13] <aLeSD> 60 FPS
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> aLeSD: 60fps video???
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> aLeSD: that would certainly do it
[18:14] <aLeSD> hitsujiTMO, Yes . I recorded it with a goPRO
[18:14] <newb> hitsujiTMO: getting it... then what?
[18:14] <Oun_> WHOEVER: AFter reboot with dongle : ifconfig ( eth0 and lo ) iwconfig no wireless externsions
[18:15] <aLeSD> I try to install nvidia-update ... (however opensource drivers seems better)
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> aLeSD: fhd @ 60fps takes a LOT of processing power
[18:15] <Oun_> any more ideas»
[18:15] <Oun_> ?
[18:15] <aLeSD> so I will revert to opensource drivers ... they seems smoother
[18:16] <Gaming4JC> hey guys, I just did a "mv * /backup" inside a folder to backup all the stuff
[18:16] <Gaming4JC> unfortunately it just deleted them apparently since nothing actually moved(?)
[18:16] <Gaming4JC> anyway to get my files back? :P
[18:16] <TJ-> aLeSD: Are you playing it in a window, or full-screen. Because of the 3D composited desktop a window will have to be software-composited. Try using vlc to play it full-screen in video overlay mode
[18:16] <Oun_> so no more ideas?
[18:18] <aLeSD> here I am
[18:18] <TJ-> aLeSD: Are you playing it in a window, or full-screen. Because of the 3D composited desktop a window will have to be software-composited. Try using vlc to play it full-screen in video overlay mode
[18:18] <aLeSD> nvidia-update are smoother ... but cpu usage is the same
[18:18] <Oun_> oh shit, cant put this working
[18:18] <aLeSD> but in what propetary drivers are better in nvidia ?
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> newb: download the driver from here http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[18:19] <whoever> Oun_: make and model
[18:19] <Oun_> how come?
[18:20] <Oun_> ahh
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> !language | Oun_
[18:20] <Oun_> tp link wn722N
[18:20] <Oun_> ath9k firmware
[18:20] <newb> hitsujiTMO which item in the list of drivers?
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> newb: kernel 3.x one under linux
[18:21] <Oun_> DMESG: failed to initialize the device
[18:21] <whoever> Oun_: Oun_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1895776
[18:22] <ilarion> it is a terminal command for update mozilla to v27?
[18:22] <brainkiller> и чо?
[18:22] <Oun_> oh i guess i did that whoever
[18:22] <Oun_>  i will try it again
[18:22] <Oun_> thanks
[18:22] <brainkiller> wtf?
[18:23] <brainkiller> тут русские есть?
[18:23] <Gallomimia> !ru
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> ilarion: firefox 27 is still in proposed atm
[18:23] <CrazyGirl> !ru
[18:24] <ilarion> ok
[18:25] <ilarion> !ro
[18:25] <ilarion> ha
[18:26] <newb> hitsujiTMO: both are downloaded. I presume unpack them and place them onto the usb for mounting on the linux machine?
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> newb: put them on the usb first. you can unpak them on the system
[18:28] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Okay, they are on the usb. I am going to mount it now.
[18:28] <crf> Hi. I am from Canada. I was trying to watch an olympics event from CBC's website. But it doesn't seem to show the video in firefox.
[18:29] <crf> A black box appears where the video should be, but nothing plays. The flash plugin loads.
[18:31] <whoever> crf: what flash are you using
[18:31] <Oun_> Invalid operation
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> newb: btw do you have persistence set up on that usb?
[18:31] <Oun_> ok didnt work
[18:31] <Oun_> lots of errors
[18:31] <Oun_> and  cant find this and that
[18:31] <Oun_> anyway, thanks for the help whoever
[18:32] <whoever> Oun_: ok, what ver of ubuntu
[18:32] <newb> hitsujiTMO: usb is mounted. now what?
[18:32] <Oun_> ill try it again later on
[18:32] <Oun_> last one
[18:32] <Oun_> catch ya later
[18:32] <Oun_> cya
[18:32] <whoever> Oun_: that could be 14.04 beta
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> newb: mkdir ~/install; cp /mnt/* ~/install
[18:33] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Yes, I think I set it at 460mb of persistence.
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> newb: then: cd ~/install; tar xf build.tar.gz; sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[18:36] <newb> hitsujiTMO: mkdir command did not work. Do I need to use sodu with it?
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> newb: no. you shouldn't need sudo for it
[18:37] <newb> hitsujiTMO: output is: cp: target '~install' is not a directory
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> newb: try: mkdir ~/moo; cp /mnt/* ~/moo
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ~/install not ~install
[18:39] <newb> hitsujiTMO: crap
[18:39] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Does it matter that other items were on the drive?
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> newb: lol no. just cp the 2 files then
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> newb: cp ~/mnt/build.tar.gz ~/install; cp ~/mnt/driverfileyoudownloaded.tar.bz2 ~/install
[18:44] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I am getting a lot of "omitted messages"
[18:44] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I am getting a lot of "omitted messages"
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> newb: from which command?
[18:45] <asad2005> Is it ok to upgrade to 14.04 if i accept once a day crash or is it more than that?
[18:45] <OerHeks> asad2005, no.
[18:45] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu+1 asad2005
[18:46] <chaotix> hi
[18:46] <newb> hitsujiTMO: see here https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/b5NVUxvEpNj9nPhvhrOIdeGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[18:46] <chaotix> i ran the Software Updater this morning, and it crashed mid update, and then i could not get it to restart, and things kept crashing, so i tried logging out, but instead of a log in screen i just got a black screen with a blinking "_" cursor, so i cold boot, and select ubuntu from the grub, and then after the plymouth boot screen all that loads again is the blinking cursor
[18:46] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu+1 | asad2005
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> newb: thats ok
[18:46] <chaotix> do i have any options other than reinstall?
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> newb: its because you did cp and not recursive cp
[18:47] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Now what? This? cp ~/mnt/build.tar.gz ~/install; cp ~/mnt/driverfileyoudownloaded.tar.bz2 ~/install
[18:47] <nice_guy> how to grant root privileges to the existing user
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> newb: nope... cd ~/install
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ls
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> newb: what are you seeing there?
[18:48] <SchrodingersScat> !root | nice_guy
[18:48] <newb> hitsujiTMO: after ls, no such file or directory
[18:50] <k1l_> nice_guy: use sudo. but dont use sudo for GUI programms
[18:50] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I literally just typed ls though. Is that right? Is ls a command?
[18:50] <nice_guy> i had add one of the existing user to the 'sudo' group   by using the command : adduser <username> sudo
[18:50] <nice_guy> but its not working
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ls lists everything in a directory. give that error is rather odd
[18:51] <k1l_> nice_guy: no that does not work
[18:51] <nice_guy> why
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ok. lets try this again. cd ~
[18:52] <nice_guy> it adds the user to sudo group
[18:53] <newb> hitsujiTMO: This is interesting. I feel like I am in 7th grade again learning dos commands!
[18:53] <newb> hitsujiTMO: ls now produces a result. One moment and I will show you.
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> nice_guy: adduser sudo <usernane>
[18:53] <elee> Howdy folks - I've only recently become better with linux in general, and noticed something weird. For some reason lightdm seems to drop zombie processes left and right, even after reboots. Tohughts?
[18:53] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys if i have a 64 bit intel system, do i get the 64 bit amd desktop iso?
[18:53] <Psil0Cybin> or do i get an intel iso even if my system is a 64 bit intel system?
[18:53] <elee> Psil0Cybin: link for us please?
[18:53] <ignacio|here> anyone help me?
[18:53] <ignacio|here> "groups: no se puede encontrar el nombre para el grupo con ID 1001"
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: amd64 is intel + amd
[18:54] <elee> Psil0Cybin: Based on what you've told us though, that iso should be good
[18:54] <Psil0Cybin> okay darn see i installed a 32 bit system on my 64 bit system
[18:54] <nice_guy> root@aman-X101H:~# adduser sudo aman
[18:54] <nice_guy> adduser: The user `sudo' does not exist.
[18:54] <nice_guy> root@aman-X101H:~#
[18:54] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Output here: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Ox22hwo8Dy75m3JvPafyX-GnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[18:54] <Psil0Cybin> lol cuz i did not know better ;p
[18:54] <bekks> elee: a zombie cant survive a reboot.
[18:54] <elee> nice Psil0Cybin =]
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: intel licence the 64bit spec from amd
[18:55] <Psil0Cybin> darn well now i know better
[18:55] <Psil0Cybin> time to reformat :D
[18:55] <Psil0Cybin> would i notice big differences if i have a 64 bit system and am using a 64 bit OS?
[18:55] <hitsujiTMO> nice_guy: cat /etc/issue
[18:55] <Psil0Cybin> like i have the lenovo g700 and the 32 bit iso is working flawlessly.
[18:56] <nice_guy> root@aman-X101H:~# cat /etc/issue
[18:56] <nice_guy> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[18:56] <nice_guy> root@aman-X101H:~#
[18:56] <crf> whoever: adobe flash 11,2,202,336 . Also tried libtotem vegas plugin but it crashed
[18:56] <bekks> 1eol | nice_guy
[18:56] <bekks> !eol | nice_guy
[18:56] <sugarcat> ignacio@estudiante-laptop:~$ cat /etc/issue
[18:56] <sugarcat> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[18:56] <sugarcat> ignacio@estudiante-laptop:~$
[18:56] <sugarcat>  /cry
[18:57] <elee> bekks: sorry let me reword. lightdm appears to complete execution but does not appear to remove entry from the process table. I see that this occurs even after multiple reboots, leading me to believe that lightdm is shitting itself somehow
[18:57] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Does that look good?
[18:57] <bekks> elee: why do you want lightdm to remove some process entries?
[18:58] <jonathan2> anybody have experience with canon ufr drivers? printer is recognized and setup by cups without issue, but can't print anything, including test page. advice on troubleshooting?
[18:58] <elee> bekks: no reason - I just want to check to see if lightdm has any reason to leave zombie processes.
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> newb: yup. ok: mkdir ~/debs; cd ~/debs; mv ~/install/build.tar.gz .
[18:59] <hitsujiTMO> newb: then: tar xf build.tar.gz; sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[19:00] <zXuS> =D
[19:01] <bekks> elee: How do you identify the zombies?
[19:01] <nice_guy> END OF LIFE:  means now i had to upgrade my system to get in working condition
[19:01] <elee> bekks: ubuntu warns me of zombie processes when I log in. that being said, a simple ps aux | grep Z works fine
[19:02] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys before i format, quickly how can I check if my system is a 64 bit or 32 bit? in a ubuntu command line?
[19:02] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: "uname -m" tells you the current kernel architecture
[19:02] <genii> Psil0Cybin: uname -m
[19:03] <Jordan_U> elee: I assume that you mean that there are defunct children of a still running lightdm process, correct? (or are these zombies children of another process, and if so, which one?)
[19:03]  * genii slides TJ- the winning coffee
[19:03] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: "lscpu | grep Architecture" will tell you the actual CPU arch
[19:03] <OerHeks> lscpu is nice
[19:04] <BlueShark> How about getconf LONG_BIT
[19:04] <elee> Jordan_U: correct. command was lightdm. Status is noted as Z, command is [lightdm] <defunct>
[19:04] <Psil0Cybin> would i notice a big difference in using a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit system?
[19:05] <k1l_> Psil0Cybin: there is no sense in running a 32bit OS when the hardware can work with 64bit
[19:05] <Psil0Cybin> yea it was just stupidness on my part :P
[19:05] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I need to work on my typing! See here: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ati-X2U43buBt4zso2BnUeGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink Is it true to say that I should now use: mv ~/install/build.tar.gz .
[19:05] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: 32-bit instructions are 1/2 the size of 64-bit in many cases, on a system with less than 3GB of RAM, 32-bit kernel/userspace is good.
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: 32bit is slower. and can be noticable depending on the task
[19:05] <Psil0Cybin> alright
[19:06] <Psil0Cybin> thanks so im going to try and install a 64 bit system :P
[19:06] <elee> Psil0Cybin: if you don't have the memory (4GB+), then you can totally leave your OS alone. However, if you have more, you will be better off reinstalling.
[19:06] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: However, I use a 32-bit userspace on a 64-bit kernel from USB sticks... the sticks also have the 32-bit kernels, which allows the USB to boot on any x86 CPU
[19:06] <Psil0Cybin> how can I backup my files in /home/ so i do not have to undo all the changes i did.
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ls
[19:06] <Psil0Cybin> elee: all i have is 4 GB in the O.S anyway
[19:06] <Psil0Cybin> Ram
[19:06] <elee> Psil0Cybin: if you have a separate usb or something, simply mount and mv * into the drive.
[19:06] <TheUnnamedDude> Hai, is it possible to disable the "stop" command?
[19:07] <hitsujiTMO> TheUnnamedDude: no
[19:07] <TJ-> Psil0Cybin: I'd create an LVM with a "home" LV, format it, and then copy the contents of "/home/" into it ... then later add that LV to the fstab of the new installation, mounted at /home/
[19:08] <TheUnnamedDude> Dang, I always type that command in the wrong terminal window when trying to stop my test minecraft server :/
[19:08] <Seveas> TheUnnamedDude: sure. But it's a horrible idea, as it breaks package installs and shutting down/rebooting
[19:08] <Seveas> TheUnnamedDude: if you just want to disable it in your shell, add this to your ~/.bashrc: alias stop='echo "No, you stop"'
[19:08] <Jordan_U> elee: But what is the parent of that process?
[19:08] <TheUnnamedDude> Also, cat_woman_44 is a bot spamming links on pm
[19:09] <Seveas> !ops
[19:09] <Gallomimia> seveas you're still awake??
[19:09] <jonathan2> anybody have experience with canon ufr drivers? printer is recognized and setup by cups without issue, but can't print anything, including test page. advice on troubleshooting?
[19:09] <TheUnnamedDude> Yeah, that should be enough Seveas, thanks!
[19:09] <Seveas> Gallomimia: it's only 20:09 here :)
[19:09] <Gallomimia> ah so you've been online all day :)
[19:09] <hitsujiTMO> TheUnnamedDude: you should report such actions in #ubuntu-ops
[19:10] <Gallomimia> you're at gmt +1 i guess\
[19:10] <genii> Seveas: cat_woman ?
[19:10] <Seveas> genii: yeah
[19:10] <TheUnnamedDude> http://screencloud.net/v/yAX2
[19:10] <Gallomimia> always make nerds believe there's a pretty lady at the other end of the wire when advertising for something
[19:11] <Gallomimia> and when i say nerds, i mean... all human beings.
[19:11] <Seveas> !ot | Gallomimia
[19:11] <hitsujiTMO> newb: that working?
[19:11] <Gallomimia> seveas that korean file i was worried about with cp -R has also been missed with rsync -a
[19:11] <elee> Jordan_U: okay a quick pstree -p root shows me that lightdm (2261), the zombie process, is spawned by lightdm (1329), which is spawned by init.
[19:12] <LjL> Gallomimia: oh, i was going to help you but only because i thought you might be a pretty guy
[19:12] <Gallomimia> thanks bud
 thanks for helping me
[19:16] <Gallomimia> huh. i guess i don't need to bother about copying the korean language support for this game that i don't even know what it is. i probably will never play it (in korean)
[19:16] <newb> hitsujiTMO: sorry for the delay. My neighbor rang the bell. One moment.
[19:16] <julianofischer> hi folks
[19:16] <Gallomimia> can't seem to ls, cp, or rsync it
[19:16] <Gallomimia> not even with wildcards
[19:17] <newb> hitsujiTMO: ls shows the build.tar.gz file.
[19:18] <hitsujiTMO> newb: tar xf build.tar.gz; sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[19:18] <setto> hi
[19:18] <no_gravity> Good Evening!
[19:19] <no_gravity> There was a critical security hole in the adobe flash player some days ago. Does ubuntu autoupdate it?
[19:20] <newb> hitsujiTMO: that looks successful. Now...?
[19:20] <hitsujiTMO> no_gravity: yes. there was a flash update just a few days ago too. might already be the latest
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> newb: mkdir ~/driver
[19:21] <John_John_> how to upgrade my php version from 5.3 to 5.5 in ubuntu without break anything in my configuration ?
[19:21] <no_gravity> hitsujiTMO: interesting. i asked in #debian and they say you have to manually update it.
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> no_gravity: debian != ubuntu
[19:21] <newb> hitsujiTMO: driver made
[19:22] <no_gravity> hitsujiTMO: i know
[19:23] <k1l_> !away > ignacio|away
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> no_gravity: the ubuntu install package. is just a script that pulls directly from the adobe site. so all that needs to be done for an update of the the package maintainer to update the version number and that will trigger an update in ubuntu
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> no_gravity: the script will then pull the latest from the adobe site
[19:23] <no_gravity> hitsujiTMO: interesting
[19:23] <ignacio|away> k1l_, you're a burocrat?
[19:23]  * ignacio|away back in few hours. Good bye for now.
[19:24] <ignacio|away> .-.
[19:24] <newb> hitsujiTMO: next up?
[19:24] <k1l_> !guidelines > ignacio|away turn that script off
[19:24] <Psil0Cybin> hey question guys I am trying to install the 64 bit system instead of the 32 bit OS I installed by stupidiity, but during the install it says Stopping enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices and shows me a mouse and thats it....do I let it wait ... or
[19:25] <ignacio|away> k1l_, this aren't script. I see it manually
[19:25] <hitsujiTMO> newb: cp ~/install/r8168* ~/driver
[19:27] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I'm not sure if that did anything. There is no output.
[19:28] <OerHeks> no output=no error :-)
[19:29] <hitsujiTMO> newb: cd ~/driver
[19:29] <hitsujiTMO> newb: tar xf r8168*
[19:30] <hitsujiTMO> newb: cd r8168-8.037.00
[19:30] <Psil0Cybin> hey hitsujiTMO when trying to install Xubuntu 12.04 64 bit I get an error in the install and it crashes and wont let me install Xubuntu again is this because I encrypted my home directory?
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: could be one of the reasons if you're installing on top of your old install
[19:32] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I am in the new directory.
[19:32] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: trying to install over my old install
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> newb: sudo ./autorun.sh
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: backup the contents of your old home and format for a clean install
[19:33] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: works now, odd had to get into desktop view then do install
[19:36] <newb> hitsujiTMO: What do you make of this? https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Lcw1u04ShP26Sju1SXLeVOGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[19:38] <hitsujiTMO> newb: is the network connection working now?
[19:38] <dveim> what are /dev/ttyxxx for?
[19:38] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Should I test that by rebooting into ubuntu and trying firefox?
[19:40] <ROPA> how do I locate the ppa for boot-repair (in 14.04)?? I can't find any listing for it at http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas
[19:40] <k1l_> ROPA: maybe there is no package in the ppa for now. it is even not released
[19:41] <ROPA> I agree that might be the case, but thereis no ppa listed for ANY version of ubuntu....it's like boot-repair does not exist.
[19:42] <hitsujiTMO> newb: no need to reboot. just see if it works
[19:42] <newb> hitusjiTMO: I would do that, but I don't know how in this environment.
[19:42] <k1l_> ROPA: there is the well known ppa. ir just doesnt have trusty packages
[19:42] <mitchelwb> I've been running Ubuntu for a few years on my home machine, but I'm far from an expert user.  This morning, something went wrong, and I can use a live disk to mount my main drive, so I plan to save off any files I want to keep then do a fresh install.  (I've been running the 32 bit and figured I'd bump up to the 64 bit anyway just haven't had a reason to make the time to do it)
[19:42] <hewomust> ROPA there is no boot-repair for tahr
[19:43] <hewomust> https://launchpad.net/~yannubuntu/+archive/boot-repair
[19:43] <hitsujiTMO> newb: top right corner. find the network icon
[19:43] <mitchelwb> When I originally set it up, I didn't know what I was doing, and I've sorta just made the system keep working.  But if I'm going to do a fresh install today, was wondering if there were any "guides" that you all would recommend that I could use to get the best install possible?
[19:43] <ROPA> k1l_  I agree that might be the case, but there is no ppa listed for ANY version of ubuntu....it's like boot-repair does not exist. If I tried to find boot-repair for 12.04...there is no entry either.
[19:43] <k1l_> ROPA: that is a common problem for dev releases. so help yourself, you know its a dev release
[19:44] <daftykins> mitchelwb: not really, but a new long term support (LTS) release 14.04 will be out in April so it'd make more sense to use that
[19:44] <daftykins> mitchelwb: are you sure what's there is beyond fixing?
[19:44] <Oun_> lo ppl
[19:44] <newb> hitusjiTMO: Top right corner is all black. I would have to get into ubuntu to see the icon, no? The only way I know how to get into ubuntu from here is a reboot. There's probably a command I can type...??
[19:44] <eltigre> can someone help me debug my nvidia issue? Before reinstallation, I had the drivers correctly installed. Now I have followed tutorials and help pages from the net for hours and I am still no closer to resolving the problem
[19:44] <Oun_> someone have a clue how to install an internet adapter on linux/virtual box?
[19:44] <k1l_> ROPA: ubuntuupdates is not a ubuntu page.
[19:44] <eltigre> "nvidiactl device or address not found"
[19:45] <k1l_> ROPA: search on launchpad
[19:45] <hewomust> newb where are you?
[19:45] <mitchelwb> daftykins, I noticed that 14.04 is coming soon, but right now, my machine is a brick without the cd in the drive at boot.
[19:45] <mitchelwb> I don't know if it's beyond repair, but I don't have a lot on my main drive that I need to keep.  I honestly think it is probably easier to just dump and reinstall.
[19:45] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ahh i see. yeah try rebooting then
[19:46] <hitsujiTMO> newb lets hope the persistence works
[19:46] <newb> hitsujiTMO: So I must reboot to get into ubuntu to see the icon you're asking about? There is no command?
[19:47] <newb> hewomust: I am not sure how to answer you question. I am new to linux. I am on command line???
[19:47] <hewomust> try typing startx then
[19:48] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Do you agree with startx?
[19:48] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Having been at this for so long now, I don't want to mess it up at this point!
[19:48] <daftykins> mitchelwb: that's fair enough. just nuke and install then, sure.
[19:48] <ROPA> ok, thanks for the info on the ppa's.....GL to all.....Have been running latest daily build 14.04 for the last 3 days....it seems quite stable (so far). I got my fingers crossed for it!
[19:48] <mitchelwb> daftykins: I was able to boot from an old live disk (I'm running 12.?? but the only disk I have is an 11).  Originally, it wouldn't let me mount /dev/sda1 but I ran e2fsck on the drive and it did seem to come up with some issues.  When it was done, I was able to mount the drive though and navigate it via the terminal
[19:49] <hitsujiTMO> newb: sudo service lightdm restart
[19:49] <Oun_> someone have a clue how to install an internet adapter on linux/virtual box?
[19:49] <compdoc> whats an internet adapter?
[19:49] <daftykins> compdoc: a made up term
[19:49] <Guest90853> can anyone help me with networking related issues in ubuntu 12.04lts version ??
[19:49] <mitchelwb> But when I tried to then go back and reboot, it threw a bunch of errors, showed me a purple screen with a progress bar (4 dots blinking) and now I just have the purple screen, but it's not booting.
[19:50] <daftykins> Guest90853: ask the question first
[19:50] <Oun_> compdoc lol
[19:50] <Guest90853> i cannot connect to google.com , youtube , or any site that uses google apis
[19:51] <Oun_> so no1 has a clue?
[19:51] <k1l_> Oun_: can you rephrase and give more details?
[19:51] <Guest90853> i am able to ping google.com but the page does not open .........it says waiting for a response
[19:51] <Oun_> someone have a clue how to install an internet adapter on linux/virtual box? Dmesg shows cant initialize device
[19:51] <compdoc> Oun_, you arent making sense
[19:52] <Oun_> lol
[19:52] <k1l_> Oun_: which device?
[19:52] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I can't use my mouse because the stick is in the usb port. Can I now unmount the usb to use the mouse?
[19:52] <compdoc> you trying to install an ethernet adaptor, or some special card that connects directly to your ISP?
[19:52] <Guest90853> I have Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS installed,and use a wi-fi network router to connect to internet .But it seems I cannot navigate my web browser to google.com nor to youtube or any site with google apis.
[19:52] <Oun_> atheros ath9k firmware 9271
[19:53] <compdoc> its a wireless nic, then
[19:53] <jhutchins> Guest90853: Firefox or nautilus?
[19:53] <jhutchins> Guest90853: Which browser?
[19:53] <jhutchins> Guest90853: Can you connect with other web sites?
[19:53] <Guest90853> firefox,chrome both
[19:53] <Oun_> yes
[19:53] <Guest90853> yes i can
[19:53] <jhutchins> I would suspect your ISP then, not Ubuntu.
[19:54] <Oun_> its an USn network adapter Wifi
[19:54] <Oun_> not my ISP for sure
[19:54] <Oun_> lol
[19:54] <Oun_> the problem is the drivers
[19:54] <Oun_> or virtual box
[19:54] <jhutchins> Oun_: No, I meant Guest90853
[19:54] <Oun_> ah ok
[19:54] <Oun_> no idea how i can solve this
[19:54] <Oun_> already did everything i could
[19:54] <jhutchins> Oun_: possibly need sormware.
[19:54] <newb> hitsujiTMO: damn! I accidently turned the power off to the system. It is now rebooting with the mouse installed on the usb port.
[19:55] <jhutchins> Oun_: Ah, I see you've condidered that.
[19:55] <Oun_> its recognized, but wont start
[19:55] <Oun_> firmware is there, but not sure if it was loaded
 but i can connect to google ,youtube from other laptops that use windows
[19:56] <Oun_> so any ideas what can be done?
[19:56] <jhutchins> Oun_: Could be an unusual implementation of the chipset.
[19:56] <jhutchins> Oun_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:56] <Oun_> this chipset is compatible
[19:56] <jhutchins> Guest90853: That's just nuts, there's nothing special about google.com
[19:56] <Oun_> theres a few ppl using it
[19:57] <Oun_> the problem is...how the fck i put this working
[19:57] <jhutchins> Oun_: Sometimes a manufacturer will implement the same chipset differently.
[19:57] <Oun_> iwconfig shows no wireless extensions
[19:57] <Oun_> its a driver issue for sure
[19:58] <Oun_> any ideas how i can install the divers on this einstein os?
[19:58] <jhutchins> Oun_: Yeah, follow the link above.
[19:58] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Is there a way to test whether the permanence worked? Unfortunately, ubuntu is still behaving badly. See here: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/NkVQRJAYLMPUPNk2HIEq6OGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[19:58] <k1l_> Oun_: put "lsusb &&lspci" into a pastebin
[19:58] <OerHeks> "VirtualBox does not natively offer Wireless support (Like a virtualized Wireless device). Instead, it connects directly to the Wireless device the Host uses."
[19:59] <k1l_> Oun_: and is this a native install or a ubuntu in a vm?
[19:59] <jhutchins> Oun_: This is a Virtual Machine?
[19:59] <Oun_> lsusb = Atheros Communication, int AR9271 802.11n
[19:59] <Oun_> its there as u see
[19:59] <Oun_> yes
[19:59] <Oun_> virtual box
[20:00] <jhutchins> Oun_: What's the host OS and hypervisor?
[20:00] <Oun_> no hypervisor
[20:00] <Oun_> just virtual box
[20:00] <compdoc> What's the host OS, windows?
[20:00] <Oun_> i dont like hyper V~
[20:00] <Oun_> yes
[20:00] <jhutchins> Will it emulate anything else?
[20:01] <Oun_> this issue is related with virtual box, firmware and drivers
[20:01] <compdoc> Oun_, you dont really need to add the card to virtualbox, do you? once windows sees it, you can add a virtual nic that ubuntu does have drivers for
[20:01] <Oun_> its added to virtual box, once the virtual box is launched windows dont see it anymore
[20:02] <Oun_> inside linux its there
[20:02] <compdoc> in fact, if Windows adds drivers and adds it to its own device manager, I dont think you can add it to a VM
[20:02] <jhutchins> Oun_: You might check #vbox for help, I don't really think this is an Ubuntu issue, as it usually handles real hardware well.
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> newb: only think you can do is reboot and hope for the best. you'll need to get the gpu drivers in then to try and fix that issue
[20:02] <Oun_> what i need from you guys, is the basic procedure to install drivers
[20:02] <jhutchins> Oun_: What about letting the host manage the wifi and just passing a bridged ethernet connection to the VM?
[20:02] <Oun_> can yu provide some guide?
[20:03] <newb> hitsujiTMO: We loaded the drivers, right? How can we tell if their permanent? I just have to reboot and hope for the best?
[20:03] <Oun_> not sure if that works jhut
[20:03] <jhutchins> Oun_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:03] <k1l_> Oun_: your setup is not a regular ubuntu setup. so please make sure first that vbox is doing the right thing
[20:03] <jhutchins> Oun_: There's nothing special about installing the ath9k driver.
[20:03] <OerHeks> Oun_, edit network settings of your linux image in virtual box before starting virtual box image, wlan should be an option i quess
[20:04] <Oun_> yea its not rocket science for sure:D
[20:04] <jhutchins> Oun_: I work with VMWare, which doesn't pass the actual hardware to the guest, it emulates either an e1000 or the native VMXNET.
[20:04] <Oun_> hmmm Oerheks
[20:05] <Oun_> thats the issue. i only have the eth0 and lo connections. no wlan
[20:05] <Oun_> iwconfig shows no wireless extensions
[20:06] <hitsujiTMO> newb: thats the network driver. need to do the gpu driver next. reboot and test if the network driver is persistent first
[20:06] <Oun_> oh man, this is twisting my braincells
[20:06] <Oun_> and this OS is for einsteins for sure
[20:07] <Oun_> crap
[20:07] <newb> hitsujiTMO: If the persistence worked, would I be able to detect it while browsing the usb stick that has the ubuntu on it?
[20:07] <k1l_> Oun_: please stop the nonsense ranting in here.
[20:08] <Oun_> ranting? just facts
[20:08] <jsdkjsbdfkjlbadf> why dosent ubuntu have a repair all button ?!
[20:08] <k1l_> !guidelines > Oun_
[20:08] <Oun_> u need a course in the Moon to do basic stuff inside this shit
[20:09] <k1l_> Oun_: i give you now a 10min. timeout to read the guidelines and calm down. after that we can start again to solve the technical issue if you stop ranting and stick to the guidelines
[20:09] <mr-tech-guy> Hello everyone
[20:09] <Pume> Repair all button huh? jsdkjsbdfkjlbadf ?
[20:10] <tpw_rules> how can i run a script before the login window comes up? need to fiddle with xinput settings before i can log in
[20:11] <newb> hitsujiTMO: once rebooted, how do I test if the network driver is persistent? You mentioned the icon, but I don't know what to look for.
[20:12] <Vpex> newb: lsmod | grep **name of driver**
[20:14] <mr-tech-guy> I am using putty to SSH into my Server. I am trying to check my  samba  file  login a the root user , using  su -  I typed  /etc/samba/smb.conf and I get Permission denied. What am I doing wrong?
[20:15] <hitsujiTMO> newb: just try to use the net. from the cli: ping goolge.com           or whatever
[20:16] <jhutchins> j vbox
[20:18] <Burrito> hitsujiTMO, I usually try 'ping 8.8.8.8' just in case the DNS is down.
[20:18] <Burrito> jhutchins, [MS Clippit] Looks like you tried to join a channel! Please try /join #vbox :) [/MS Clippit]
[20:21] <antonio__> hi all :D
[20:26] <mojtaba> Hi, I am doing backup of my whole system for the first time with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6899312/
[20:26] <mojtaba> But it is about 20 hours, it is running. Will it stop, or should I ctrl+c it?
[20:26] <mojtaba> Is it a good solution for making a backup?
[20:26] <mojtaba> Please comment.
[20:26] <mr-tech-guy> hello I got a question can some on help?
[20:26] <Oun_> 20 hours? lol
[20:26] <Oun_> what are u using USB1.0?
[20:26] <newb> hitsujiTMO: From ubuntu, I clicked cntl alt and f1. At command I typed ping google.com and the output read, unknown host.
[20:27] <mojtaba> Oun_: it is usb 2
[20:27] <Oun_> probably working like 1.0
[20:27] <Oun_> chcek the drivers
[20:27] <mojtaba> Oun_: Should It stop at a point, or is it just monitoring changes?
[20:28] <Oun_> u should stop it right now, 2o hours is insane
[20:28] <Oun_> find an alternative
[20:28] <mojtaba> Oun_: How should I check the drivers? (I have Dell Studio 1555 and I am using 1TB WD on a eSATA port.)
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ping 8.8.8.8
[20:29] <mojtaba> Oun_: Is the command ok?
[20:29] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i am having a problem I just installed a fresh install of xubuntu 12.04 lts everytime I startup my machine I get a crash report that /usr/lib/accountservice/accounts-daemon is crashing, what can i do to fix this other then keep filing bug reports?
[20:30] <mr-tech-guy> I am using putty to ssh in to my ubuntu Server  I am checking my Samba file /etc/samba/smb.conf , i used su -  so that I would not have to use sudo and I get the error Permission denied
[20:30] <xjkx> I wanna install netflix, in some random website they say I gotta do this sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ehoover/compholio is this repository safe ? Just don't want to ramdomly add stuff I dont know about
[20:31] <xjkx> I run ubuntu 13.10 64 bits by the way
[20:32] <newb> hitsujiTMO: network unreachable
[20:33] <Karmahac_> hi guys hot could i allow user to be able to reboot server ?
[20:33] <Karmahac_> pardon, * how to allow to the user to be able reboot server
[20:34] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Should I redo everything we just did?
[20:34] <bekks> Karmahac_: sudo init 6
[20:34] <hitsujiTMO> newb: hmm... not much point if its not going to persist.
[20:34] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Perhaps I should redo my ubuntu stick and up the persistence?
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> newb: do you have another stick >8gb
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> newb: >=8gb
[20:35] <mojtaba> Hi, I am doing backup of my whole system for the first time with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6899312/     But it is about 20 hours, it is running. Will it stop, or should I ctrl+c it?      Is it a good solution for making a backup?       Please comment.
[20:36] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I have lots of sticks laying around. The linux install is on a 64 gig stick. I had first tried an 8 gig stick and I was getting a message about unable to find a medium containing live file system.
[20:37] <Karmahac_> bekks but user is not root
[20:37] <arshinov> hello there!
[20:37] <hitsujiTMO> newb: pop that stick in. we'll install a minimal system to it
[20:37] <bekks> mojtaba: It will stop when it is finished.
[20:37] <arshinov> whom I may ask to see if its worth installing ubuntu on my desktop pc?
[20:37] <RaptorJesus> this just in, Amazon Prime to ship cats: http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE0LzAyLzA4LzViLzEuQW1hem9uYm94LmE5ZDNjLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTk1MHg1MzQjCmUJanBn/c62dadd6/976/1.-Amazon-box-with-cat.jpg
[20:37] <bekks> Karmahac_: Thats why I said: sudo init 6
[20:37] <mojtaba> bekks: Do you know why it is taking this long time?
[20:37] <newb> hitsujiTMO: The downloads you had me running earlier were on the original 8 gig stick with the linux I couldn't get to run. I fear that I may have misidentified that stick as the one to be updating with all the commands you walked me through.
[20:37] <hitsujiTMO> newb: actually. can you get the ubuntu-server iso
[20:38] <bekks> mojtaba: Because you a) have a lot of files and b) a possibly sloww backup storage.
[20:38] <Karmahac_> bekks do it under root  right ?
[20:38] <Oun2_> ok back
[20:38] <Oun2_> connection is on again
[20:38] <bekks> Karmahac_: No. Run: "sudo init 6" for rebooting a box as user.
[20:38] <Oun2_> my ghost is still there
[20:38] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I have lili usb creator and the ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64 image file.
[20:38] <bekks> !sudo | Karmahac_
[20:38] <Karmahac_> it is require  root pass
[20:39] <bekks> Karmahac_: There is no root password in Ubuntu.
[20:39] <bekks> !root | Karmahac_
[20:39] <hitsujiTMO> Karmahac_: thats your password it requires
[20:40] <arshinov> is clamav working on ubuntu?
[20:40] <bekks> Yes.
[20:41] <newb> hitsujiTMO: If I recreate the ubuntu stick and increase the permanence, can we try the update again?
[20:41] <Karmahac_> bekks im sorry  but   user  is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[20:41] <arshinov> thank you bekks
[20:41] <jhutchins> Given that a full installation of Linux typically runs less than 4G, I wonder why you would need a >8G USB drive to install it.
[20:41] <bekks> Karmahac_: Then your user has no privileges to use sudo. And this user is not allowed to reboot.
[20:41] <hitsujiTMO> newb: i don't think its an issue with the size of the persistence
[20:41] <niolin> how can execute X application (such as xclock) as a different user?  I opened xterm, and loggind as a different user using 'su seconduser'.  Now, when I try running xclock, I am getting "Error: Can't open display: :0".  I know there were alot of fixes for this issue when using ssh, but my case is a bit different.
[20:42] <newb> hitsujiTMO: More than that, I think I was making the updates to the wrong stick... that old 8 gig that wouldn't work.
[20:42] <jhutchins> newb: Did you check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded?
[20:42] <newb> jhutchins: I have not checked it.
[20:42] <Karmahac_> bekks then how could i allow him be able do only reboot ?
[20:43] <bekks> Karmahac_: Ask a user having sudo privileges to add allow it.
[20:43] <hitsujiTMO> Karmahac_: add that user to the sudoers file for the app: reboot
[20:43] <Karmahac_> bekks  sorry maybe im explain it a bit wrong
[20:43] <RaptorJesus> http://imgur.com/bcLOc6E
[20:43] <bekks> Karmahac_: No, you did not. Your user is not allowed to use sudo, and some allowed to use sudo has to allow that.
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | RaptorJesus
[20:44] <Karmahac_> bekks im that user  with sudores
[20:44] <newb> hitsuhiTMO: Do you see what I mean? I put build.tar and r8168-8.037.00.tar on the 8 gig usb that wouldn't work. you had me perform a check on which usb to install to and I think that I selected the wrong one.
[20:44] <RaptorJesus> Many score! Such Emancipation
[20:44] <bekks> Karmahac_: Read what I just wrote to you please :)
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> newb: the install itself installs to the system. doesn't matter where you copied them to
[20:44] <compdoc> you and your DiosaurReligion
[20:44] <compdoc> *dino
[20:45] <Karmahac_> bekks im can allow to do that but i did't know how    i do have  sudo under other user  on that server
[20:45] <newb> hitsujiTMO: okay, if I didn't install it to the correct place, why wouldn't it persist?
[20:45] <bekks> Karmahac_: Then reboot the server as another user.
[20:46] <bekks> !sudo | Karmahac_
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> newb: not sure. some of the tools don't propperly create persistence with some isos
[20:46] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I think I just need a few minutes to take a little walk. I am a bit frustrated with this. I really appreciate your help.
[20:47] <newb> hitsujiTMO: will you be here throughout the afternoon? If I came back in 20 minutes we could begin again with whatever you suggest?
[20:47] <hitsujiTMO> newb: before you start walking. start downloading the server iso
[20:47] <jhutchins> ..or netinst...
[20:47] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Okay, where to download it?
[20:48] <hitsujiTMO> newb: whatever pc you're on now. then replace your current desktop usb
[20:48] <hitsujiTMO> jhutchins: he/she has an r8168
[20:48] <newb> hitsujiTMO: where do I get the ISO from?
[20:49] <hitsujiTMO> newb: http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-13.10-server-amd64.iso
[20:49] <Karmahac_> bekks  yes i understand that  :)   but i need to make this "guy" to be able reboot server  without  asking me to do that  but, at the same time without giving him   all sudo rights
[20:49] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Okay, it's downloading.
[20:49] <newb> I will be back in a bit...
[20:49] <hitsujiTMO> Karmahac_: you can give hime sudo rights for a single application
[20:52] <Karmahac_> hitsujiTMO  yep that's what i wan to  but have no idea how to do that. Sorry if my question is so annoying  ;))
[20:54] <ShawnRisk> How do I change my printer settings in Ubuntu 13.10 to read the DHCP instead of IP Address as the IP Address keeps changing?
[20:54] <epax> I have one ubuntu 12.04 as VPS server... the problem is that now an then whole system goes to read only mode. I can not even restart it thrue ssh. Does anyone know what the problem can be?
[20:55] <bekks> epax: type dmesg when that happens.
[20:56] <Seveas> ShawnRisk: it's easier to give the printer a fixed address
[20:56] <ShawnRisk> Seveas: really, how?
[20:56] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i am having a problem I just installed a fresh install of xubuntu 12.04 lts everytime I startup my machine I get a crash report that /usr/lib/accountservice/accounts-daemon is crashing, what can i do to fix this other then keep filing bug reports? What would this be? Is my user account unsafe?
[20:57] <epax> bekks, Is it possible to see in logs afterwords? This is not the first time it happend.
[20:57] <eaxxae> Shawn: you have to login to the printer and set a STATIC ip... what kind of network are you on ? home network, school, work ?
[20:57] <Seveas> epax: if your rootfilesystem goes read only, it has an error. Make a backup and run an fsck from the VPS console
[20:57] <bekks> epax: Check the logs then.
[20:57] <ShawnRisk> eaxxae: home
[20:57] <Seveas> ShawnRisk: depends on how your dhcp server works. On my adsl model I can configure fixed addresses for specific clients for instance.
[20:58] <Seveas> eaxxae: I would only do that if the dhcp server doesn't support static assignment (which most adsl/cable modems I know do)
[20:58] <hitsujiTMO> Karmahac_: try adding a line: <user> ALL=(ALL) /sbin/reboot
[20:58] <hitsujiTMO> Karmahac_: replacing <user> wuth the correct user
[20:59] <ShawnRisk> Why not make this read DHCP?
[21:00] <epax> Since the whole filesystem was in read only mode i can not se anything in /var/log/syslog since it has not write anything.
[21:00] <Seveas> because unless your dhcp server automatically populates a DNS zone, you cannot "read DHCP"
[21:00] <bekks> epax: thats why you need to use dmesg when it happens again.
[21:00] <Karmahac_> hitsujiTMO thannk you
[21:01] <biffbaxter> static for a printer is mostly preferred anyway unless you have a good DNS setup to handle it
[21:03] <zerooneone> if i'm on precise, how do i install a package from saucy or trusty?
[21:03] <epax> bekks, i know that now but ill rader not have any more issues regarding vps. I just thought if i can solve this problem before it happends again.
[21:03] <biffbaxter> the reality of a home network is that your modem probably has a /24 setup for a handful of devices. Either a reservation within the DHCP scope, or if the scope is only say 1-100 but you have a full /24 network you can  pick a static above  or below the scope as long as your on the same subnet
[21:03] <bekks> epax: You cant, because you dont know why it happened.
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> !backports | zerooneone try this
[21:03] <bekks> epax: So you need to look at dmesg.
[21:03] <epax> bekks, oki. thnx for help.
[21:06] <root_> ?
[21:07] <root_> help
[21:07] <bekks> !rootirc | Guest96316
[21:07] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: Thanks again for helping me out yesterday with my forgotten password!
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: np
[21:07] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: I'm new to Ubuntu, what do you suggest is the best way for me to faimiliarize myself with the shell, etc.
[21:08] <profligacy> I want to be fluent in Linux.
[21:08] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: maybe start with http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/
[21:08] <guntbert> !manual | profligacy
[21:08] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: Awesome, this looks like a good start, thanks.
[21:09] <profligacy> guntbert: Thanks for that as well.
[21:09] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: get used to reading man pages too
[21:09] <profligacy> What are man pages exactly?
[21:09] <profligacy> hitsujiTMO: The man guntbert sent me right now?
[21:10] <guntbert> !man | profligacy
[21:10] <profligacy> Ah yes, those.
[21:10] <hitsujiTMO> profligacy: manual pages for any app. if you want to know how to use a command, lets say "ls", you can check the man pages: man ls
[21:11] <genii> profligacy: You can also usually do: commandname --help
[21:12] <Bashing-om> profligacy: Addition: There are litterally thousands of terminal commnads, no one knows them all .. hense the manual. Learn to use it.
[21:12] <Oun2_> ok guys, im about to destroy my computer. Can someone tell me why my network adapter(USB) shows a dmesg like this: firmware requested, Failed to initialize device?
[21:12] <Oun2_> Im using virtual box btw
[21:12] <Oun2_> not physical machine
[21:13] <Oun2_> apt-gte update done
[21:13] <Oun2_> apt-get firmware-atheros done
[21:13] <Oun2_> and...nada! no wifi showing up
[21:13] <guntbert> !enter | Oun2_
[21:14] <Oun2_> the things u are worried about
[21:14] <Oun2_> impressive
[21:14] <Oun2_> so any news?
[21:15] <ClaireMc> Has anyone here used Ubuntu as a server?
[21:15] <Oun2_> just hit a dead end
[21:15] <Oun2_> ubuntu should be used only as a server
[21:15] <bekks> !anyone | ClaireMc
[21:15] <Oun2_> as a desktop sucks ass
[21:15] <ClaireMc> Why is that Dun2?
[21:15] <Oun2_> common sense
[21:16] <ClaireMc> I've found it to be quite good as a desktop
[21:17] <Psil0Cybin> Well I just prefer Xubuntu because i love Xfce :)
[21:17] <ClaireMc> Aren'y you going to back up your statement amd tell me why ist sucks?
[21:17] <Psil0Cybin> it just all on preference.. :D
[21:17] <Oun2_> what a gay #
[21:17] <Oun2_> oh well
[21:17] <k1l_> !language
[21:17] <Oun2_> are you a priest?
[21:18] <ClaireMc> I've used a few different distros. It's better than Fedoro but not as good as SuSe
[21:18] <Psil0Cybin> ha, he will learn silly kids
[21:18] <k1l_> ClaireMc: lets stick to ubuntu support in here. we got #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting
[21:18] <Psil0Cybin> fine back to Ubuntu support...
[21:19] <Psil0Cybin> i am having a problem I just installed a fresh install of xubuntu 12.04 lts everytime I startup my machine I get a crash report that /usr/lib/accountservice/accounts-daemon is crashing, what can i do to fix this other then keep filing bug reports? What would this be? Is my user account unsafe?
[21:19] <ClaireMc> kll, I'm looking for some support but no getting it so far.
[21:20] <k1l_> !details | ClaireMc
[21:20] <ClaireMc> Have you ever had a situation where you can access localhost from the web browser but no from the command line.
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> ClaireMc: what is the command you are issueing in the cli?
[21:21] <jatt> ClaireMc: did you encrypt your home directory on installation?
[21:23] <ClaireMc> Logged in as root and trying to access sub directories which are stated not to exist but can be seen in the web browser. Directory and file permissions are OK. This happens even when logged in as root
[21:24] <empireittech> Hello, new to Ubuntu and IRC
[21:24] <John_John_> when ubuntu 12.04 reboots apache works but php doesnt. it needs manual apache restart. how can i solve this ? i have tried everything i found in google with no luck. please help me.
[21:24] <empireittech> do you have XAMPP set to auto-start on startup?
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> ClaireMc: you need to be more specific about whats going on. what exactly is the command and path you are using?
[21:25] <John_John_> i dont use xampp at all
[21:25] <zykotick9> !xampp | empireittech
[21:25] <John_John_> i use LAMP stack
[21:25] <ClaireMc> Just simple cd and ls commands.
[21:25] <gfredericks> I have a wifi router that lets me plug in a usb drive and it presents it via samba; I can with no trouble or auth open this drive in nautilus, but am unable to figure out where it's mounted in the filesystem (for console access), or how to mount it if it isn't
[21:26] <John_John_> any ideas ?
[21:26] <zykotick9> gfredericks: check under ~/.gvfs
[21:26] <hitsujiTMO> ClaireMc: cd to where? what path are you in when you run the command?
[21:27] <empireittech> ah yea, my bad. LAMP/XAMPP, I meant the same thing. I'll remember that though, thanks
[21:29] <ClaireMc> It doesn't matter where in the path. I can't get out of root because the CLI says the path ie. directories don't exist.
[21:30] <ClaireMc> I was hoping someone here might have seen the problem before.
[21:31] <jhutchins> ClaireMc: It's possible the directories have been removed but are cached in the web server, but the path shown by the webserver is not the same as the filesystem path.
[21:31] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys I am having problems with my laptop in the sense that my speakers and headphones play sounds at the same time when i plug in headphones what can i do to launch a bug reporrt, for  specifically my audio card,  i do not know the steps i would take to file these problems
[21:31] <gfredericks> zykotick9: oh dangit now I can't get it to work at all; but I'll note that down, thanks
[21:32] <ClaireMc> The directories actually are there and I tried the same path as shown through the browser. That also made no difference. I just found that I can create a directory but then can't access it.
[21:33] <ClaireMc> Why would I have read/write access then not be able to see a directory I actually own?
[21:33] <zykotick9> gfredericks: i'm afraid that really was a "check", i'm NOT sure that's where it'll be...  best of luck though
[21:34] <ClaireMc> Anyway, I can't spend all evening on this. I'll reinstall and try again.
[21:34] <gordonjcp> ClaireMc: is it possible that you've deleted a directory that's the current working directory for the shell you're in?
[21:35] <gordonjcp> ClaireMc: also, how exactly are you "logged in as root"?
[21:35] <gfredericks> zykotick9: good to know, thanks
[21:35] <jhutchins> ClaireMc: If you are describing the situation accurately, it could be a problem with the disk/filesystme.
[21:35] <jhutchins> ClaireMc: root has access to all files and directories unless the filesystem is corrupt.
[21:36] <ClaireMc> That's a possibility. I have logged in as root using su and also directly to the root account. Makes no difference.
[21:36] <ClaireMc> jhutchins I'm beginning to think something has gone astray in the installation but unreported.
[21:37] <jhutchins> ClaireMc: root has access to all files and directories unless the filesystem is corrupt.
[21:37] <ClaireMc> That's what should happen jhutchins. I'll reinstall. It will be quicker in the long run.
[21:38] <jhutchins> ClaireMc: What about just checking the filesystem?
[21:38] <ClaireMc> Thanks for your suggestions guys.
[21:38] <jhutchins> Sigh.
[21:38] <Klapo> hello guys
[21:39] <Klapo> have one funny question, so I have kimsufi 2g :D and I want to run vm on it, so my question is.. can I run ssh from host and guest on 22 port? is there any way
[21:39] <bekks> Klapo: Whats "kimsufi"?
[21:40] <Klapo> ovh kimsufi offert
[21:40] <hitsujiTMO> klaas: kimsufi doesn't have vt-x
[21:40] <Klapo> dedicated server
[21:40] <hitsujiTMO> klapo^
[21:40] <Klapo> hitsujiTMO: I know that, but it does mean I can't run vm on it?
[21:40] <hitsujiTMO> not the 2g anyway
[21:40] <hitsujiTMO> Klapo: you can run a seriously slow 32bit vm possibly
[21:41] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I am back. ubuntu server is downloaded.
[21:41] <hitsujiTMO> newb: create a usb of it and boot it up
[21:41] <Klapo> hitsujiTMO: hm, so other question... I have this server for me, and 2 other users are using it
[21:41] <Klapo> is there any good way to jail them
[21:42] <Klapo> so I can be sure, they are not watching my files etc :)
[21:42] <Vpex> Docker? It might need vt-d. Could you use ACLs>
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> Klapo: http://allanfeid.com/content/creating-chroot-jail-ssh-access http://askubuntu.com/questions/93411/simple-easy-way-to-jail-users
[21:43] <newb> hitsujiTMO: it seem I cannot set persistence on the creation of this usb... Where I would set persistence, it says "LIVE MODE"
[21:44] <hitsujiTMO> Klapo: just know that it is possible to break out of a jail
[21:44] <Klapo> hitsujiTMO: hmm, how about this project http://olivier.sessink.nl/jailkit/index.html#download ?
[21:44] <Klapo> you know something?
[21:44] <hitsujiTMO> newb: thats ok, you're going to install it to the 8gb
[21:44] <jbalthazar> I'm having a strange package dependency problem. I was attempting to update Intel video stuff on a 12.04 install so I could run Steam and I followed these instructions (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve#Intel_Graphics) which involve installing some packages marked quantal
[21:45] <hitsujiTMO> Klapo: second link i gave refers to it in the answer
[21:45] <Klapo> oh, kay
[21:45] <jbalthazar> Something Went Wrong and my xorg install is broken. Rather than piece apart exactly what happened, I figured I'd uninstall xorg and start over
[21:45] <Klapo> gotta check it, anyway.. thanks for info
[21:45] <jbalthazar> However, whenever I try to use apt-get now, I get: linux-image-generic-lts-quantal : Depends: linux-image-3.5.0-45-generic but it is not going to be installed
[21:46] <jbalthazar> It recommends that I use -f, but that doesn't affect anything
[21:46] <hitsujiTMO> jbalthazar: don't follow that guide. thats trying to downgrade your drivers, not upgrade
[21:47] <hitsujiTMO> jbalthazar: might be easiest to reinstall to fix what you broke
[21:48] <jbalthazar> Ah, I managed to track down the offending package that was causing the dependency errors
[21:48] <jbalthazar> hitsujiTMO: I was under the impression that quantal was a version higher than 12.04
[21:48] <hitsujiTMO> jbalthazar: when did you install 12.04?
[21:49] <jbalthazar> A few weeks ago
[21:49] <jbalthazar> (It was the most recent version that supported the install method I needed)
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> jbalthazar: then you're prob on the saucy stack, which is newer again
[21:49] <jbalthazar> Okay
[21:50] <jbalthazar> Well, the current plan is to upgrade everything anyway, once I've got xorg back
[21:51] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I just installed it to the 64 gig. Should I redo it?
[21:51] <hitsujiTMO> newb: installed as normal server install?
[21:52] <hitsujiTMO> jbalthazar: you can't "upgrade" back to the sauch stack, you need to switch back to it
[21:52] <newb> Using live usb creator, I put the server on the 64gb usb stick. Should I redo that process and put it on an 8 gb stick?
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> newb: which one do you want to run the mining from?
[21:54] <newb> I had thought the 64 gig because my motherboard has not been recognizing the 8gb stick. Any time i use the 8 gig, I get the message, "unable to find medium containing live file system"
[21:54] <gfredericks> zykotick9: there it is! thanks!
[21:55] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I will continue to use this 64 gb stick. I am about to boot it up.
[21:55] <zykotick9> gfredericks: nice.  glad to help.
[21:58] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I tried to boot from the stick, but it does not appear to be an option...? The menu includes only installation options.
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ok, its just we'll be installing to another stick. makes more sense to install to the 64gb stick.
[21:58] <JacobPerry> hello
[21:58] <[Ethos]> 32 gb is sufficient
[21:58] <JacobPerry> I can't seem to install ubuntu
[21:58] <JacobPerry> on my pc
[21:59] <JacobPerry> I get to the grub menu but after that it gives me a black screen
[21:59] <LvMises> Is anyone experiencing some problems streaming videos in Youtube in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?  My video quality is fine but the sound seems to be a bit choppy.
[21:59] <JacobPerry> when I click anythiung else
[21:59] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Next steps?
[21:59] <[Ethos]> What channel can I go to programming on Ubuntu?
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> newb: what tool are you using to create the usb with?
[21:59] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | JacobPerry
[21:59] <jhutchins> !fixgrub
[21:59] <newb> Lili USB Creator
[21:59] <JacobPerry> I have an alienware with a nvidia graphics card
[21:59] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Lili USB Creator.
[22:00] <[Ethos]> JacobPerry: why waste it on Ubuntu?
[22:00] <[Ethos]> :>
[22:00] <Vpex> newb: Using a .iso or .img?
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ok. thats good. do you have another usb, even a 1gb one to use as the install medium?
[22:00] <Guest39890> How do I block all outgoing and incoming traffic on two ports and find the applications sending data over those ports to blacklist it?
[22:00] <JacobPerry> [Ethos]: I like ubuntu and I will be duel booting
[22:00] <[Ethos]> ok
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> !behelpful | [Ethos]
[22:00] <[Ethos]> Anyone use Windows 8 to duel boot with Ubuntu
[22:00] <JacobPerry> I am trying to
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> [Ethos]: #ubuntu-app-devel
[22:01] <Guest39890> How do I block all outgoing and incoming traffic on two ports and find the applications sending data over those ports to blacklist it?
[22:01] <[Ethos]> Guest39890: readup on ffw firewall
[22:02] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Yes,  I unplugged the mouse to get the motherboard to recognize the second stick. I just plugged it in.
[22:02] <Guest39890> [Ethos], Do you have a link?
[22:02] <JacobPerry> do I need to use legacy boot?
[22:02] <JacobPerry> safe on or off?
[22:02] <newb> Vpex: .img
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> newb: use that to create the install medium with lili
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> newb: then we can install to the 64bg
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> newb: then we can install to the 64gb
[22:03] <JacobPerry> does anyone use win 8?
[22:03] <JacobPerry> with ubuntu
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> JacobPerry: where exactly are you having a problem
[22:04] <JacobPerry> after I click the "try without installing" or install it takes me to a black screen
[22:04] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | JacobPerry
[22:04] <John_John_> ubuntu server 12.04 installs php 5.3 by default. how can i install php 5.5 ?
[22:04] <Vpex> newb: I think linux live usb prefers .iso, haven't used it in a while. Might be worth using win32diskimager with .img?
[22:04] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: from a ppa or from source
[22:04] <newb> hitsujiTMO: If I understand you correctly. You want me to turn off the machine and unplug the 64gb server stick. You want me to recreate the server stick on 8gb while using lily usb creator. Is that right?
[22:05] <JacobPerry> I tried that
[22:05] <JacobPerry> but I don't know how to implement it
[22:05] <JacobPerry> last time my friend installed it for me
[22:05] <John_John_> i have used a ppa and run into troubles
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> newb: yes, then we install the os to the 64gb.  unless you want to install to the 8gb
[22:05] <Guest39890> [Ethos], Is ffw an abbreviation?
[22:05] <Beldar> JacobPerry, At the try ubuntu gui hit f6 and choose nomodeset
[22:05] <John_John_> first it doesnt have even the very basic extensions
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> !ufw | Guest39890 he meant this
[22:06] <John_John_> what would you do ?
[22:06] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I want to get this operational as fast as humanly possible. I have almost zero understanding for what we're doing. Hopefully, I can follow your precise step-by-step instructions. When you start talking macro-level stuff, I loose you.
[22:07] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ok, but decide now, what do you want the system to be running from? the 64bg stick or the 8gb?
[22:07] <hitsujiTMO> Guest39890: what ports are you having trouble with?
[22:07] <John_John_> if i try to use xampp how do i disable/uninstall the current apache instance ?
[22:08] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I do not care what it runs from as long as it runs. At this point, I have shut down the machine. I have deleted all content from the 64 gb stick. I am now creating the linux server on the 8gb stick.
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> !xampp | John_John_
[22:08] <davetesc> looking for some advice on compressing and archiving???
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ok. let me know when thats done and we can start the install
[22:09] <hitsujiTMO> davetesc: kinda works better if you actually say what you want to know. overly general questions like that don't get answered quickly
[22:10] <davetesc> thanks, I want to zip a large ( 30 Gb ish ) folder for archive but split it into say 2Gb chunks?
[22:10] <souredfrog> Anyone point me to a current howto on securing ubuntu?
[22:10] <souredfrog> please and thank you sirs
[22:11] <Copperwire> the hacker lair
[22:11] <Vpex> davetesc: Give lzma2 a go
[22:11] <bekks> souredfrog: Securing which aspect?
[22:11] <JacobPerry> Beldar: I do't have the option of f6
[22:11] <davetesc> is that a cli or gui and is it available thru synaptic
[22:11] <JacobPerry> it does only allow me to type code
[22:11] <souredfrog> davetesc, http://superuser.com/questions/324756/how-can-i-compress-a-large-file-into-smaller-parts
[22:11] <JacobPerry> or edit code
[22:11] <souredfrog> bekks, Just generally.
[22:12] <bekks> souredfrog: tar, lzma, splz
[22:12] <bekks> souredfrog: tar, lzma, split
[22:12] <bekks> souredfrog: "just generally" is pointless in terms of security.
[22:12] <genii> souredfrog: Even though it may not fit your idea of "current", almost all the info here is still relevent: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1002167
[22:13] <souredfrog> genii, thank you
[22:13] <wolfspy> hi
[22:13] <Vpex> davetesc: lzma2 is a compression algo its mainly used by 7zip. Do you need 2GB due to filesystem constraints or other, I think a rar might be the way to go then?
[22:13] <Guest39890> hitsujiTMO, I am having trouble with two nonstandard ports. The other day a piece of shit asshole tried to steal my password. I ran a port scan on my system a while ago and noticed the open ports but, haven't had the chance to block them and feel it is a good idea to do that seeing as somebody is trying to compromise security.
[22:13] <wolfspy> I am trying to export a gpg key
[22:13] <washuu_de> Is there an extra channel for Xscreensaver?  I have a question about it.
[22:13] <wolfspy> but it says -bash: pkey.asc: Permission denied
[22:14] <hitsujiTMO> Guest39890: do you know the port numbers?
[22:14] <davetesc> Vpex, it's so I can write it to DVDrws so could be 4GB
[22:14] <Guest39890> hitsujiTMO, yes
[22:14] <davetesc> Vpex, I think "gb is prob a left over from FAT
[22:14] <hitsujiTMO> Guest39890: what are they?
[22:14] <Guest39890> hitsujiTMO, 53 is one of them
[22:14] <JacobPerry> oh I am downloading the new ubuntu
[22:14] <Guest39890> 631
[22:14] <JacobPerry> 13.10
[22:15] <hitsujiTMO> Guest39890: whats the ouput of:  sudo netstat -plnt | grep ':53\|631'
[22:15] <hitsujiTMO> Guest39890: sorry: whats the ouput of:  sudo netstat -plnt | grep ':53\|:631'
[22:16] <Guest39890> hitsujiTMO, one is cupsd
[22:16] <Guest39890> 631
[22:16] <josh_> Hey everyone, I did a debootstrapped install of 13.10 a couple weeks ago and I've noticed that I've never been able to download at a rate of over 100kB/s. I should be downloaded packages much faster than that. Is there a package or driver that I might be missing?
[22:16] <josh_> downloading* ... awful grammar
[22:16] <Guest39890> and 53 is dnsmasq
[22:16] <Guest39890> hitsujiTMO,  and 53 is dnsmasq
[22:17] <Guest39890> part of openvpn
[22:17] <Copperwire> what network device are you using?
[22:17] <wolfspy> I am trying to export a gpg key
[22:17] <wolfspy> but it says -bash: pkey.asc: Permission denied
[22:17] <genii> souredfrog: You're welcome :)
[22:17] <wolfspy> the command I ran is sudo gpg --export -a 5F7E3C52 > pkey.asc
[22:17] <Guest39890> hitsujiTMO, looks like the two services are good
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> Guest39890: a printer daemon and the dns service thats installed by default in ubuntu
[22:18] <Guest39890> hitsujiTMO, Are those two non-intrusive?
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> Guest39890: they're safe. they're part of the base ubuntu install
[22:19] <Vpex> davetesc: I personally prefer 7zip. apt-get p7zip then 7z a -v4096M *name-of-output*.7z *your-file* (-v4096M is for 4GB splits)
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> Guest39890: dnsmasq is just running on 127.0.1.1:53 right?
[22:19] <Guest39890> hitsujiTMO, yes
[22:19] <newb> hitsujiTMO: The 8gb stick is read.
[22:20] <newb> hitsujiTMO: ready
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> Guest39890: thats running on localhost. not even on the external network
[22:20] <Vpex> davetesc: oh i forgot add -mx9 for a lot of compression
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> newb: boot it and start the install
[22:20] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I don't understand how to start the installation if the machine has no hard drive.
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> newb: you're installing to the 64gb stick
[22:21] <Guest39890> hitsujiTMO, How would you deal with a person trying to steal one of your passwords knowing a relative tricked them into doing it to try and steal the password after you told them they were not going to get it?
[22:21] <Vpex> Guest39890: did you port scan on the internal ip or external ip? Are you on a dmz? Change passwords?
[22:21] <Copperwire> take out your baseball bat
[22:21] <Guest39890> Vpex, nmap
[22:21] <Guest39890> Vpex, lo
[22:22] <newb> hitsujiTMO: So, I should put both the 8gb server stick into the motherboard and the 64gb server stick into the motherboard and boot up?
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> Guest39890: i'd stop talking to them and ignore them :P
[22:22] <davetesc> Vpex thanks for that, used to use peazip but cant get it to install on 64bit
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> newb: yup, and boot the 8gb one
[22:22] <Guest39890> hitsujiTMO, The person is a close relative that won't their own business.
[22:22] <Vpex> Guest39890: lo thats your loopback interface, your fine unless they get on your internal network
[22:22] <gfredericks> exist
[22:22] <Guest39890> hitsujiTMO, and will try and sabotage my personal life if I ignore them
[22:23] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I should select "Install Ubuntu Server"?
[22:23] <gfredericks> zykotick9: so ~/.gvfs works on one computer with a rather older ubuntu, but on my newer-ubuntu, the directory doesn't even exist
[22:23] <hitsujiTMO> newb yup
[22:23] <gfredericks> and `sudo find / -name some-dir-on-the-drive` turns up nothing
[22:24] <zack_> hello
[22:24] <Copperwire> wazaaaaaa
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> newb: when it comes to partitiong, choose  guided, but not with lvm
[22:24] <zykotick9> gfredericks: ya, that's what i was worried about origionally.  sorry, i've got no idea how it works "these days".  good luck!
[22:25] <gfredericks> zykotick9: okay, thanks again
[22:25] <gfredericks> does anybody else know how to get command-line access to a samba drive since it's not ~/.gvfs anymore?
[22:26] <gfredericks> I have a nautilus window open but `find` say the files aren't on the filesystem anywhere
[22:26] <hitsujiTMO> newb: take not of what drive you are installing to aswell (/dev/sdXY)
[22:26] <Vpex> gfredericks: smbclient try man smbclient first
[22:27] <gfredericks> Vpex: reading now, thans
[22:27] <gfredericks> k
[22:27] <zykotick9> gfredericks: (i'm certainly not sure) but i doubt smbclinet will help with nautilus mounting...
[22:28] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I have not seen anything about partitioning. It has output some information about dhcp and networking. One moment.
[22:28] <Vpex> zykotick9: It wont help with nautilus mounting but he can browse it via the mountpoint through nautilus
[22:29] <hitsujiTMO> newb: chhose to set up networking later after that fails
[22:30] <zack_> hello i think theres a mis understanding
[22:31] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I continued from here: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jRUKKdcrtb7nRgnCD-JC0uGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> newb: yup cool
[22:31] <Guest39890> hitsujiTMO, Vpex thanks for helping
[22:32] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I am now here: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/cEXBIOT50qNLy7C94OAt5-GnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink what should I select?
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> newb: "no not configure ..."
[22:32] <washuu_de> bye
[22:34] <newb> hitsujiTMO: encrypt the home directory?
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> newb: no
[22:34] <FreewheelinFrank> anyone know the command to run jre?
[22:35] <nobodyeverknew> FreewheelinFrank: java
[22:35] <FreewheelinFrank> npbodyeverknew: yes i downloaded jre.7.0_45
[22:35] <nobodyeverknew> FreewheelinFrank: you should be able to use java just by running 'java'; are you asking how to install oracle java?
[22:36] <newb> hitsujiTMO: yes or no to this: https://picasaweb.google.com/aumanpj/Misc?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCKyb8ZyUpri1KQ&feat=directlink
[22:37] <nobodyeverknew> FreewhelinFrank: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html should get you in right direction
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> newb: is that the partition that you have the installer on?
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> newb: choose no. you can go back to it if its the 64bg usb
[22:39] <codepython777> how do i fix this on ubuntu: Warning: program compiled against libxml 209 using older 207
[22:39] <nightfly> install libxml 209
[22:39] <bekks> codepython777: As I already told you in vbox: Install a more recent libxml.
[22:40] <hitsujiTMO> codepython777: compile it in ubuntu or install 209
[22:40] <bekks> codepython777: Pastebin "cat /etc/issue" please.
[22:40] <shutchie> hey all. looking for some mysql in ubuntu. i can login with mysql -u root but not mysql -u root -p. the mysql install and root user is all messed up and i try a fresh install but it still has the same errors
[22:41] <bekks> codepython777: Since you just said you are using Mint 13, in #vbox, please seek the Mint support. This is Ubuntu support only.
[22:41] <codepython777> bekks: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[22:41] <codepython777> bekks: someone else said mint 13. I am ubuntu lts
[22:41] <smrtz|nix> I've got a question about gpg, can one of you guys help please?  I've signed and encrypted a file with gpg -se -r <name> <file>, now how do I get an ASCII version of the file to paste into an email?
[22:41] <bekks> codepython777: Ah, you are right, I am sorry.
[22:41] <codepython777> bekks: how do i see the logs for : VBoxManage startvm debian?
[22:42] <nobodyeverknew> shutchie: if the password is empty then -p. will not work. If you upgraded mysql versions then you should run mysql_upgrade
[22:42] <bekks> codepython777: The logs are in the vms directory.
[22:42] <newb> hitsujiTMO: which option here: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ymBn5zFLbt4OLPR-bbxI6uGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[22:42] <shutchie> nobodyeverknew: thanks, just did a couple reinstall. and i set a password as password123 for root when installing, but then that password doesn't work
[22:42] <codepython777> bekks: cant locate vms directory
[22:43] <nobodyeverknew> shutchie: try running mysql_upgrade anyways to see if it finds anything abnormal
[22:43] <bekks> codepython777: You have to. It is your vm.
[22:43] <nobodyeverknew> nobodyeverknew: and, mysql -uroot -ppassword123 is what you'll want to use to connect
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> newb: yup, guided use entire disk
[22:43] <nobodyeverknew> oops ;)
[22:43] <codepython777> bekks: I dont see a log file in that directory
[22:43] <nobodyeverknew> shutchie: /ignore * joins
[22:44] <bekks> codepython777: So what do you see in there? Pastebin "ls -lha" from that directory.
[22:44] <codepython777> bekks: the only two files there are debian.vbox and a vmdk
[22:44] <codepython777> bekks: http://bpaste.net/show/qLFTRr1WgEpcfrRv0XgC/
[22:44] <bekks> codepython777: Thats not "ls -lha".
[22:44] <gustav> Hi, what should I do when 12.10 reaches end of life? I can't upgrade... should I downgrade?
[22:45] <bekks> gustav: It already is EOL.
[22:45] <k1l_> gustav: no downgrade
[22:45] <hitsujiTMO> gustav: upgrade. then eol upgrade
[22:45] <bekks> !eolupgrades | gustav
[22:45] <Vpex> gustav: cant you run a dist-upgrade
[22:45] <LinuxFixer> Why can't you just upgrade to 13.10?
[22:45] <arshinov> Hello guys!
[22:45] <codepython777> bekks: http://bpaste.net/show/a6OFREtkVdHPP2HSWEkJ/
[22:45] <gustav> 12.10 has EOL April 2014.
[22:45] <hitsujiTMO> bekks 12.10 isn't eol :P
[22:45] <k1l_> gustav: as mentioned do a regular upgrade and then it should do another upgrade
[22:46] <bekks> hitsujiTMO: Oh geez - that was that 13.04 is EOL, but 12.10 isnt yet thing.
[22:46] <gustav> Like I wrote, I can't upgrade. To 13.10.
[22:46] <LinuxFixer> Why not gustav?
[22:46] <acovrig> I am trying to link a portion in /mnt in apache, and am getting permission issues, what is the simplest/best way to temporarily make a folder on a mounted volume in /mnt web-accessable?
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> bekks: yup goota love policy changes
[22:46] <k1l_> LinuxFixer: no direct upgrade. you need to go all steps
[22:46] <bekks> hitsujiTMO: Yeah.
[22:46] <gustav> 13.10 does not support my hardware like 12.10, however 12.10 is not perfect either but works.
[22:46] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I tried to go back from here: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/5_AHXnmemgA4iy47fOyiNeGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> gustav: upgrade to 13.04, then follow the eol upgrade instructions to upgrade to 13.10
[22:47] <LinuxFixer> Yeah but he should be able to just do a upgrade to 13.04 then 13.10 right?
[22:47] <arshinov> Guys, I really want to switch from win7 to Ubuntu but I don't know if its safe for my hardware to switch because of compatibility issues. How can I know about that ?
[22:47] <bekks> !hcl | arshinov
[22:47] <gustav> I've tried 13.10, it was running. I restored from backups.
[22:47] <shomon> is it possible to have microshaft office in ubuntu?
[22:47] <k1l_> arshinov: make a usb stick and try it in live system
[22:47] <codepython777> arshinov: you can also try the LiveCD
[22:47] <gij0e> use libreoffice, its better and free
[22:48] <k1l_> shomon: use wine
[22:48] <julianofischer> ashinov: dual boot is the best choice for you...
[22:48] <Vpex> acovrig: if I understand you, then cd to the folder you want then python -m SimpleHTTPServer
[22:48] <k1l_> !wine | shomon
[22:48] <rww> arshinov: boot up a LiveUSB stick and see what happens
[22:48] <hitsujiTMO> newb: try ctrl + alt + f2     run     parted -l     try take  A photo of that
[22:48] <gustav> So you're telling me to not downgrade, and to upgrade, which I can't.
[22:48] <arshinov> thank you bekks, I'm going to check this. k1l & rww I'm going to do that too!
[22:48] <hitsujiTMO> gustav: you cant downgrade. what can't you upgrade?
[22:48] <shutchie> nobodyeverknew: FATAL ERROR: upgrade failed
[22:49] <gustav> Hm... probably I will downgrade. 12.04.4 LTS is supported til April 2017.
[22:49] <acovrig> Vpex: I like the idea, but I need this to be on :80 and have php,pdo->mysql support...
[22:49] <nobodyeverknew> shutchie: run it as root?
[22:49] <newb> hitsujiTMO: after going back I went to this page and I am still there: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qnWfOA2e5qfE789vTNUYqeGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink what now?
[22:49] <Vpex> acovrig: oh I thought it was temp just to download files off of the server via a web browser
[22:49] <gustav> hitsujiTMO: Upgrades don't work, they are broken on this computer. I would have to reinstall with a lesser version, and do the downgrade manually.
[22:49] <arshinov> I don't need to install it on my system to see if everything is OK? Just run it throught usb stick is fine to check for hardware compatibility?
[22:50] <shutchie> nobodyeverknew: same error
[22:50] <k1l_> arshinov: yes
[22:50] <acovrig> Vpex: no, it's temp for development I want to do
[22:50] <gustav> hitsujiTMO: I can upgrade, the process is fine, but I end up with a broken OS.
[22:50] <arshinov> thank you k1l_
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> gustav: then you'll simply need to reinstall a fresh
[22:50] <nobodyeverknew> shutchie: verify permissions? There is some kind of issue with the binary databases. Check the mysql log?
[22:51] <gustav> hitsujiTMO: Yeah.
[22:51] <LinuxFixer> Gustav then just do backup of all your important files and then do a clean upgrade to 13.10 using usb or live cd
[22:51] <gustav> LinuxFixer: 13.10 doesn't work. It's broken.
[22:51] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ok try and continue and see if it will work
[22:51] <[Ethos]> not ffw, I meant ufw
[22:51] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I don't see continue as an option. What do I select in the list?
[22:51] <k1l_> gustav: before you want to downgrade i would consider to solve the "its broken" issue
[22:51] <wazer> Hello all!
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> newb: finish partitioning ...
[22:52] <gustav> From what I've seen here, my particular hardware is not well regarded and won't be offically supported.
[22:52] <LinuxFixer> Gustav do you have it on a live cd? mayby somethiing went wrong when you burned to your cd. Burn it again at slower speed and then it should work. I use 13.10 myself on my main computer
[22:52] <[Ethos]> there's a youtube video on how to install Ubuntu
[22:52] <k1l_> gustav: do you need to speak in miracles?
[22:52] <gustav> k1l_: I'm not a maintainer of the distribution. :)
[22:53] <wazer> I have smartmontools (smartd?) configured on my Ubuntu server.  I want to make sure it is properly monitoring my 5 harddrives, but I'm not sure how to verify it is actually running/testing them on some interval.
[22:53] <wazer> Does anyone know how I can verify that smartmontools is checking my drives? I do have it configured to email me if there is an error.
[22:53] <hitsujiTMO> gustav: are you running on a chome book or something?
[22:53] <k1l_> gustav: it sounds like "i heard someone who knows someone who knows someone who got a issue". what is that issue?
[22:53] <gustav> LinuxFixer: I could try it again, I think I used an USB memory.
[22:53] <Vpex> wazer: do you have any redudency?
[22:54] <gustav> k1l_: Well, no, I've been in here often with issues regarding this hardware and I don't get any help.
[22:54] <wazer> These particular drives are not setup in any raid fashion etc... the data on them isn't critical enough to need that, but I would like to know if one is failing.
[22:54] <hitsujiTMO> gustav: whats the hardware?
[22:54] <k1l_> !details | gustav what hardware? there are tons of hardware out there
[22:54] <Vpex> acovrig: I think a basic apache setup can serve files on port 80, sftp setup? ftp over ssh.
[22:54] <gustav> k1l_: I have a motherboard with nVidia Optimus which needs bumblebee, and people don't seem to like bumblebee, because it is a "hack" and so there.
[22:55] <k1l_> gustav: o_O  that should not be a problem
[22:55] <gustav> k1l_: I still have problems with it now, I can't play Steam games, for example.
[22:55] <LinuxFixer> Gustav: Yes try it again. Make sure you have atleast 2 gb on your usb stick..just to be safe:)
[22:55] <acovrig> Vpex: I have apache running, but am getting permission errors I don't see any way around (I am not going to chmod 777 /mnt)
[22:55] <pvl1> hey is there a something thatll recompile nvidia module every upgrade. or do i even need to
[22:55] <daftykins> nvidia prime is newer than bumblebee now
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> gustav: thats complete rubbish. anyone on nvidia is on bumblebee
[22:55] <gustav> Well, I don't know what they're doing right, my stuff hangs.
[22:56] <k1l_> gustav: sorry to say, but you followed the wrong rumours. there is no need to stay on 12.10
[22:56] <Vpex> acovrig: have you checked the ownership of the files?
[22:56] <LinuxFixer> Gustav : I use bumblebee myself on my acer aspire with no troubles what so ever so its fine. You should use primus instead of optirun btw:) It gives better performance:)
[22:56] <gustav> k1l_: Well, I've not listened to any one, this is from my own experience upgrading to 13.10.
[22:56] <wazer> I figured there might be a log or something where I can make sure smartmontools is at least doing SMART checks on some interval... not sure though
[22:57] <gustav> LinuxFixer: Yes, I use primus with Steam.
[22:57] <k1l_> gustav: details!
[22:57] <skinux> Where do we change how long Ubuntu waits before putting screen to sleep?
[22:57] <gustav> k1l_: I have detailed this before to no avail.
[22:57] <k1l_> gustav: "my car is damaged" "what is damaged?" "my car"  . that doesnt help us to help you
[22:57] <acovrig> Vpex: http://pastebin.com/6prb7yW9
[22:58] <newb> hitsujiTMO: What do you make of this? https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Y6eCNazT297oZHTaJD42puGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink It appears this is not going well. Maybe I should get a hard drive, cdrom and install windows xp for this thing. Can you say something hopeful to motivate me forward?
[22:58] <hitsujiTMO> newb: restart the installation
[22:59] <hitsujiTMO> newb: this time round sdb shouldn't automount and break the install
[22:59] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Does that mean that I shut down the machine, delete content from the usb drives, recreate the server stick, insert the usbs into the motherboard, boot up, and redo the installation?
[22:59] <gustav> k1l_: Well. I don't have the logs right now.
[23:00] <hitsujiTMO> newb: no, just reboot as is
[23:00] <newb> ok
[23:00] <gustav> k1l_: The screen and sound hangs while I play and there's no response to keyboard input, I have to do a hard reboot.
[23:00] <shutchie> mysql appears to have no errors. i can login as mysql -u root but then can't do anything. e.g. when i try to set password for 'root'@'localhost' says no matching rows in table
[23:02] <hitsujiTMO> gustav: what gpu do you have? what driver were you using?
[23:02] <gustav> hitsujiTMO: 680M. 304.117-0ubuntu1~xedgers~quantal2.
[23:03] <nottap> you guys ever fix the bug in 12.04 where a user cant play a large video file without the whole system locking up?
[23:03] <hitsujiTMO> gustav: using xedgers could be the problem
[23:03] <FreewheelinFrank> nobodyeverknew: yes it is java runtime environment, to view my wireless camera via mydlink
[23:03] <gustav> hitsujiTMO: It's not.
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> gustav: and you know this how?
[23:04] <gustav> hitsujiTMO: Testing.
[23:04] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Still guided and use the entire disk?
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> newb yup
[23:05] <k1l_> gustav: honestly: from what i heard form you i think that this is solvable but you dont seem to want this to be solved. newer ubuntus got newer kernels with better hardware support, especially for hybrid video cards
[23:06] <savid> Anyone know of any handy tools to help me organize my ~/.ssh/config?  Right now there's a lot of repeating myself for various settings. Would like to be able to create a group of hosts, and then reference that group in another Host declaration
[23:06] <Vpex> acovrig: hmmm
[23:06] <gustav> k1l_: Nothing has been done about Optimus, you still need bumblebee. I don't have the time to test, every day.
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> gustav: nvidia-prime is usable instead of optimus in 13.10
[23:07] <k1l_> gustav: sory but you dont have a clue what is going on
[23:07] <gustav> k1l_: Where would I get information about what is going on?
[23:08] <k1l_> gustav: not in ranting about how bad ubuntu and optimus is and refusing to use a actual kernel with actual drivers supported by ubuntu
[23:09] <gustav> k1l_: No one has instructed me as to what is supported. From what I can see I run a supported OS.
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> gustav: ppas aren't supported
[23:09] <k1l_> !ppa |  gustav
[23:09] <k1l_> gustav: sorry, you just stated that you use a PPA and when people telling you that this can cause problems you deny that.
[23:10] <gustav> Well, it's not the problem.
[23:10] <k1l_> you say its not the problem
[23:10] <gustav> That's just your bullshit creeping up.
[23:10] <k1l_> that is a difference.
[23:10] <gustav> Yeah.
[23:10] <hitsujiTMO> gustav: what is the problem then?
[23:11] <gustav> Crashes.
[23:11] <k1l_> *sigh*
[23:11] <gustav> You're not very helpful.
[23:11]  * SlidingHorn grabs popcorn
[23:12] <gustav> I guess this is the status quo.
[23:12] <k1l_> you are using a unstable driver from a PPA. and than crashes are  the problem? they are the result, not the problem
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> gustav: so xorg crashing is a problem but it has nothing to do with the the fact that you instal xorg from an unsupported ppa?
[23:14] <k1l_> gustav: final comment from me: use nvidia-prime which works in 13.10 and 12.04. a downgrade is not possible so either you make fresh isntall or upgrade.
[23:14] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Do I need any predefined selections of software?
[23:15] <gustav> k1l_: Is nvidia-prime supported?
[23:15] <hitsujiTMO> newb: nope
[23:15] <daftykins> gustav: perhaps you should stop trolling the channel
[23:15] <hitsujiTMO> gustav: yes, its in 13.10 repos
[23:15] <jhutchins> gustav: What are you on now?
[23:16] <gustav> 12.10.
[23:16] <newb> hitsujiTMO: please look at this: http://www.cryptobadger.com/2013/04/build-a-litecoin-mining-rig-linux/
[23:16] <benighted> hey all - having issue, after messing about with line6 audio drivers, after adding a blacklist-line6.conf to /etc/modprobe.d/ getting 'Unable to mount /boot' message - I've verified that the partition is still mountable, and matches the /etc/fstab entry, any suggestions?
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> newb: those guides are written by beginners
[23:16] <newb> hitsujiTMO: step four involves SSH and CURL.
[23:16] <jhutchins> gustav: So you would upgrade first to 13.03, then 13.10.
[23:17] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I was wondering if any of these predefined selections include either of these.
[23:17] <hitsujiTMO> newb: yes you can install them after
[23:17] <jhutchins> gustav: You are correct that you can not upgrade directly to 13.10, skipping releases has never been supported.
[23:17] <newb> hitsujiTMO: ok
[23:17] <LinuxFixer> Gustav: Just do a clean install of 13.10 from a newly burned bootable usb stick and everything should work out of the box. You can download intel hd graphics driver from intels site. After you've done that, go ahead and install bumblebee with primus
[23:18] <jhutchins> Of course, bumblebee is a work in progress, not perfect by any means.
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> gustav: do a clean install of 13.10. the reason why an upgrade to 13.04 results in a broken os, is because you've install xedgers ppa
[23:18] <LinuxFixer> But works like a charm on most computers:)
[23:20] <vielso> what can I do to unmount nfs partition?  My nfs server went down, and now I cannot unmount it.  I tried 'umount -f /mnt/nfs' and 'umount -l -f /mnt/nfs' but both of them hang
[23:21] <acovrig> Where are apparmor's logs? I am having issues with apache that seem to point to apparmor.
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> acovrig: syslog
[23:23] <acovrig> hitsujiTMO: is there a verbose option or something, I am trying to access something outside of /var/www with apache (I used an Alias) and when I try to load the page I get an apache permission error, but nothing in syslog
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> acovrig: nothing to do with apparmour
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> acovrig: thats the apache config thats preventing that
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> acovrig: you need to add permissions for that vhost to access that path
[23:25] <shutchie> anyone know how to reset mysql users in ubunt?
[23:25] <jbalthazar> Attempting to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10. I run do-release-upgrade and it stops on Calculating the changes. The error is, "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade: E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[23:26] <jbalthazar> I'm not even sure what it's saying is wrong, let alone how to go about fixing it :/
[23:27] <hitsujiTMO> jbalthazar: what ppas did you install?
[23:30] <jbalthazar> hitsujiTMO: How can I get a list?
[23:30] <hitsujiTMO> cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[23:31] <jbalthazar> I have several. Can I just delete them from this directory?
[23:32] <graped3> LjL: this is only for you if you are LjL-Card from the offtopic chanel:>> banned for asking about a movie, dude, you are an idiot, enjoy your alpha male status in the channel
[23:32] <rww> graped3: This is a support channel. Please keep to Ubuntu support here, thanks.
[23:33] <jbalthazar> There are a couple related to Steam, one related to an application that I installed, and one related to my attempt to mess with the video drivers
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> foggalong: you got a problem with your connection?
[23:35] <rawrrrrrr> When I do 'fdisk -l', nothing shows in stoud.... why is that?
[23:36] <hitsujiTMO> rawrrrrrr: you need to be the super user to use fdisk
[23:36] <zykotick9> rawrrrrrr: try "sudo fdisk -l"
[23:36] <ignacio_> Really
[23:36] <ignacio_> k1l: you banned me? ...
[23:36] <rawrrrrrr> zykotick9: thank you... it usually tells me when that's the problem (:
[23:36] <hitsujiTMO> ignacio_: #ubuntu-ops for that
[23:36] <ignacio_> hitsujiTMO: thx.
[23:37] <foggalong> hitsujiTMO: yeah, sorry about this.
[23:37] <foggalong> hitsujiTMO: I think I've got it smoothed out now, but I have to go now
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> foggalong: np
[23:37] <foggalong> hitsujiTMO: At least this time it will be intentional
[23:38] <newb> hitsujiTMO: The installation finished and it went to reboot. A bunch of on-screen text appeared and now I have a black screen.
[23:38] <newb> hitsujiTMO: perhaps I should shut it down and restart it again.
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | newb try this if it happens again
[23:40] <a215> if i have an encrypted home directory, does the space taken show up double on df -h?
[23:40] <bekks> No.
[23:40] <a215> baobab is reporting 80gb free, df, only like 3
[23:40] <bekks> The unencrypted filesystem shows up, and the loopback mount shows up too. They are almost the same size, but they are different.
[23:41] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I did a reboot and got the same thing. I don't know how to do the !nomodeset
[23:41] <a215> bekks: but the unencrypted version is what, fake?
[23:41] <jbalthazar> hitsujiTMO: I've removed the ppas that I don't need, but it still tells me I have held broken packages
[23:41] <a215> an abstraction in RAM?
[23:41] <hitsujiTMO> newb: when you boot. get up the grub menu (with left shift or esc) and edit the entry with e
[23:42] <bekks> a215: No. The unencrypted filesystem is the "real" filesystem. On that filesystem is a file, which is decrypted, mounted, and then its content shows up in df -h
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> jbalthazar: what ppas are they?
[23:42] <a215> you mean the undecrypted filesystem?
[23:42] <bekks> a215: I just explained it.
[23:43] <jbalthazar> precise-partner (which I assume is just getting ignored by the upgrade process anyway) and prof7bit-fake-pae, which I need because of a quirk in the processor that makes it claim not to support PAE even though it does
[23:43] <a215> somehow im more confused by your explanation
[23:44] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I am on grub. Now what?
[23:45] <jbalthazar> a215: When you do the df, it will show the "real" filesystem as having an amount of space taken up that corresponds to the size of the  encrypted filesystem
[23:45] <jbalthazar> It will also show the encrypted filesystem as a separate entry
[23:46] <hitsujiTMO> newb: edit the ubuntu entry. add nomodeset after "quiet splash" then f10 to boot
[23:46] <a215> ok, so it does show up double
[23:46] <a215> more or less
[23:46] <jbalthazar> I mean, the total amount of free space is correct
[23:46] <a215> o_o
[23:46] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I do not know how ot edit the ubuntu entry or add nomodeset after quiet splash. Can you provide step-by-step instruction?
[23:47] <jbalthazar> Okay, think of it like a pie chart
[23:47] <hitsujiTMO> newb: e  to edit
[23:47] <jussiapu> jusa
[23:47] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Can't find 'e' command
[23:47] <jbalthazar> Half of the pie chart is your encrypted filesystem, so if you look at it, it looks like that space is used
[23:47] <jussiapu> i amm here
[23:47] <MR_Wazzap11> Hello?
[23:47] <hitsujiTMO> newb: press e on the keyboard
[23:47] <a215> but baobab says i have 80gb free more than df -h does
[23:48] <MR_Wazzap11> Can anyone help me out with Lubuntu here?
[23:48] <jussiapu> I do... just listen
[23:48] <jbalthazar> I'm not familiar with baobob
[23:48] <newb> hitsujiTMO: um... I must be slow. press it and hold it down? Doing so just produces a lot of eeeeeeeeees in the grub.
[23:48] <presonic> just apt-get to install wine-dev, where is the source code?
[23:48] <presonic> just used*
[23:49] <hitsujiTMO> newb: is it at the grub menu, or you at a command line?
[23:49] <marky23> hi
[23:49] <jbalthazar> But df will show you specific numbers for each filesystem, so I'd trust that
[23:49] <MR_Wazzap11> Is anyone familiar with Lubuntu?
[23:49] <marky23> anyone here can help me i dont know how to install my scanner i use ubuntu 12.04
[23:49] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | MR_Wazzap11
[23:49] <k1l> !details | MR_Wazzap11
[23:50] <marky23> i have a problem installing scanner to my ubuntu 12.04
[23:50] <newb> hitsujiTMO: you indicated I should be in grub and that's where I am.
[23:50] <marky23> but i already installed my printer canon E610 series but the scanner didnt workd
[23:51] <hitsujiTMO> newb: there the grub menu, and theres a grub command line. you should be in the menu. think you need to hit esc from the command line to get back to the grub menu
[23:51] <MR_Wazzap11> Ok well I have Lubuntu 13.10 running on a secondary laptop and I just installed Cairo Docks, it supposedly makes things easier for first timers, but now its cutting my windows in half on my screen
[23:52] <MR_Wazzap11> And I dont have Compiz to change the visual effects
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: what composite manager have you installed?
[23:52] <Beldar> MR_Wazzap11, The dock will show now in any desktop, the cairo desktop is a bit strange.
[23:53] <MR_Wazzap11> I'm not really sure, Its a fresh install I can look into it if you need me to hitsujiTMO
[23:53] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I see. Now I am on a setparams screen.
[23:54] <harris> find what background color of a cell in libre spreadsheet
[23:54] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: you're going to need to run a composite manager with cairo dock. Xcompmgr is a basic one
[23:54] <MR_Wazzap11> I can supposedly add the Cairo-compmgr through the repositories, would you advise that?
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: or cairo_compmgr would do i guess
[23:55] <presonic> anyone know where i'd find the source code to wine after installing wine-dev package?
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> presonic: apt-get source wine                           wine-dev is headers not source
[23:55] <presonic> ok
[23:56] <harris> find what background color of a cell in libre spreadsheet
[23:56] <hitsujiTMO> newb: find the linux line. you should see "quiet splash" towards the end of it, add nomodeset
[23:57] <hitsujiTMO> newb: then f10 to boot
[23:57] <presonic> hitsujiTMO, : what directory would the source be in after running that command?
[23:58] <MR_Wazzap11> The terminal is telling me it is unable to find the package eve after I added the repository and ran an update..... Any suggestions?
[23:58] <hitsujiTMO> presonic: current directory
[23:58] <presonic> o
[23:58] <presonic> great thanks
[23:59] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: what ppa, and what version of ubuntu?
[23:59] <MR_Wazzap11> Well I'm running Lubuntu 13.10 as mentioned before and the ppa is ppa:shnatsel/staging