[03:00] <knome> added some things in the xubuntu team calendar
[03:00] <knome> if anything weird pops up (like finnish events), let me know
[03:00] <knome> i'm trying out lightning with thunderbird for calendar stuff
[10:58] <knome> elfy, pling
[10:58] <knome> elfy, 12.04.5?
[11:01] <elfy> bah
[11:01] <elfy> don't see the point personally - would prefer to get people moved to 14.04 :)
[11:01] <knome> well some people can't (no PAE support)
[11:03] <elfy> then they really need to be thinking seriously - and a few months of extra support is probably a cushion they shouldn't rely on having
[11:03] <knome> well it's not even extra support really
[11:03] <knome> and it doesn't really affect existing installations
[11:04] <knome> .5 is just an updated installation media
[11:04] <knome> (basically)
[11:04] <knome> the updates will pretty much land in 12.04 anyway for users why have a system installed
[11:04] <elfy> that they'd have anyway by updating?
[11:04] <knome> (unless they don't update their systems, which isn't really a good idea either)
[11:05] <elfy> because if that's the case I really don't see the point in 3 or 4 people running round to test a point release for that
[11:05] <elfy> if people don't update their systems then ... 
[11:05] <knome> that's a fair point of view
[11:05] <knome> the other fair one is that by that time, 14.04 is out
[11:06] <knome> so there's no reason to choose the other LTS unless you 1) don't have PAE support 2) you have a really old machine with so low specs that it can only run 12.04 but not 14.04
[11:06] <elfy> posted to the list again
[11:12]  * elfy is writing a thing for the blog
[11:12] <knome> goodie
[11:13] <elfy> you haven't read the draft yet :p
[11:13] <knome> hah
[11:18] <elfy> "That QA guy KEEPS telling us to report things"
[11:49] <elfy> knome - any reason why the http://xubuntu.org/contribute/ link to this channel trys to do so with Mibbit? wouldn't freenode chat be better?
[12:14] <elfy> knome: have a look when you've got 10 minutes
[13:22] <Mudkitty> Hi New Ubuntu user here. Wish I had started using it long ago!
[13:24] <Mudkitty> I have been programming for some time now but in VB6, VB.NET along with other Microshaft apps
[13:24] <damiank> guys  i'm a bit desperate: i just lost my job. If any of you needs a web designer/php coder please send me a private msg. I can work remotely. Thanks! Here situation is really bad...
[13:25] <damiank> elfy: i just downloaded iso, will try later today
[13:26] <Mudkitty> Damiank, I am in south Florida. Will keep my eyes and ears open down here for you and I wish you best of luck!
[13:28] <damiank> Mudkitty thanks!  i'm in Argentina, but i can work remotely
[13:28] <knome> elfy, well they are irc:// links
[13:31] <Mudkitty> www.indeed.com/q-Web-Developer-l-Florida-jobs.html‎ is a good site to check out
[13:32] <damiank> Mudkitty thanks!
[13:34] <elfy> knome: yea - but is freenode allowing mibbit now? not looked for an age - at one point it didn't work
[14:06] <schproodle> Trusty Daily appears to be unchanged from yesterday.  Any point in testing?
[14:06] <schproodle> According to zsync anyway
[14:08] <schproodle> and looking inside the iso -- date o7
[14:09] <schproodle> 07 February for version 20140208
[15:38] <schproodle> RE Trusty Daily above -- My error -- need to use 'current' instead of  'Version' in zsync command
[15:39] <schproodle> That is version number e.g., 20140208
[17:16] <schproodle> Is there a way to get a larger display resolution for xubuntu in vbox -- rebooting the vm after installation seems to default to 640.480
[17:18] <knome> schproodle, install the guest additions
[17:22] <schproodle> knome, this one? guest additions iso image for VirtualBox from synaptic ?
[17:23] <knome> schproodle, check the media menu.
[17:25] <schproodle> knome, a 'media menu' in vbox? 
[17:27] <knome> schproodle, when you are running the virtual machine, you have the menu to attach/remove media, like cd-roms
[17:27] <knome> schproodle, check that menu, it has an item to install the guest additions
[17:27] <schproodle> knome, the package available from repository: virtualbox-guest-additions.iso  N.B. "The guest
[17:27] <schproodle> systems then can mount the iso and install the guest additions from there."
[17:27] <knome> schproodle, that's one option, but vbox can make one more step automatically.
[17:28] <schproodle> knome, while running,  OK
[17:28] <knome> you are free to do it either way, but will end up with the same result
[17:31] <schproodle> knome, under Devices it has "Install guest additions" Host-d
[17:31] <knome> that's it,.
[17:31] <schproodle> knome. dont need the package?
[17:31] <knome> schproodle, no.
[17:32] <schproodle> okeeleedokeelee :)  ...
[17:32] <schproodle> knome, vbox has its own world eh
[17:34] <schproodle> knome, does that need to be done for each vm?
[17:34] <knome> yep.
[17:34] <knome> schproodle, though it will only need to fetch the ISO once.
[17:37] <schproodle> knome, Forgive me.  What does it do?  Still have low resolution.
[17:37] <knome> schproodle, once you've downloaded the iso, mount it and run the VBoxLinuxAdditions.run file from the media
[17:37] <schproodle> knome, voxaddtion cd is on the desktop
[17:46] <schproodle> knome, Done.  What needs to done next to increaser resolution.  I have rebooted the vm.
[17:48] <knome> schproodle, whatever you'd usually do to increase the resolution.
[17:50] <schproodle> knome, xubuntu settings manager for display is fixed at 640x480.  Must I do something in vbox?
[17:51] <schproodle> knome, I gave the vm for video memory. 
[17:52] <knome> sorry, but i need to focus on something else. try asking in #vbox
[17:54] <schproodle> knome, Thanks
[18:04] <elfy> dashing in and out but, schproodle - you should just be able to resize the vbox window and it will autoresize now
[18:04] <elfy> if it doesn't then it's not installed properly
[18:12] <schproodle> elfy, the compilation fo the guest stuff seems to have failed -- no kernel headers
[18:13] <schproodle> elfy, auto resize is greyed out on the vm view menu
[18:13] <schproodle> elfy, I will try to install kernel headers eh
[18:15] <schproodle> elfy, headers are already installed on vm running 14.04
[18:21] <schproodle> elfy, I suppose installation of guest additions might not be working for 14.04
[18:42] <elfy> schproodle: I get the same error about headers, it still works for me in 1404, I tend to install them from /media
[18:42] <elfy> not really here
[18:52] <knome> bbl ->
[19:00]  * pmjdebruijn had the whiskermenu icon going black bug
[19:15] <schproodle> elfy, Ate some lunch. Now it works eh. ;)
[19:18] <brainwash> pmjdebruijn: you should bump the upstream bug report :)
[19:20] <schproodle> elfy, not autoresize but bigger default.
[21:18] <Unit193> knome: You can also install from jockey.
[22:50] <brainwash> https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-devel
[22:51] <brainwash> "Xubuntu Developers does not use Launchpad."
[22:51] <knome> ;)
[22:51] <knome> that's not really the right team
[22:51] <brainwash> so is this a valid package maintainer?
[22:51] <knome> -dev is.
[22:52] <brainwash> see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal
[22:52] <brainwash> just noticed that
[22:52] <knome> sure.
[22:52] <knome> just a mistake probably.
[22:52] <knome> should be xubuntu-dev
[22:53] <brainwash> should it be changed? :D
[22:54] <knome> probably
[22:55] <Unit193> knome: It's because of the email, merge it into something else if you can.
[22:56] <knome> seems i can't