[00:13] what's xubuntu's equivalent of lightdm / gdm / kdm (i'm taking notes on how to restart a frozen gui) [00:14] cubed_root: lightdm-gtk-greeter [00:15] thanks bluesabre [00:16] anytime :) [00:19] Guys, I need help. xrdp in xubuntu, getting a grey screen. I think I need to make a .xsession file and do permissions things, but in there I'm reading that I have to put gnome-session something something, is that going to be different for xubuntu? === ponbiki is now known as Guest49800 [00:34] i bought minecraft and do not know commands to install [00:35] helo [00:36] #xubnuntu-off topic [00:36] Does it have a README or INSTALL file? [00:36] no minecraft.jar [00:36] java -jar minecraft.jar [00:37] yes [00:39] unit193_; hello [00:39] Yes? [00:40] i just want to see if your there [00:41] unit193_, you know commands [00:41] What? [00:42] for exicutable bit [00:42] unit193_, [00:43] karen__, patience please [00:43] ok i just wonder if hes there [00:44] You haven't asked anything other than the first question (which was answered, afaik), you just keep pinging me and asking if I'm here. [00:44] karen__, chmod +x filename [00:45] what [00:45] karen__, you asked for the command to set the executable bit [00:45] oh ok [00:46] Right click -> Properties too. [00:49] knome_, command dose not work my os in xubuntu 11.10 [00:50] i have older system [00:50] karen__, first, yes it does set the executable bit even in 11.10; second, 11.10 isn't supported any more. [00:50] karen__, please update to 12.04 or you are "on your won" [00:50] *own [00:55] knome_, i cant not my pc [00:55] karen__, then advice the owner of the pc to upgrade [00:56] ok [00:56] c u in bit [00:56] 12.04 has one more year support left, and it's an LTS (long-term support) release contrary to 11.10, so it's generally more stable anyway === ponbiki_ is now known as ponpon [01:19] anyone here using an app launcher similar to kupfer or synapse? synapse doesn't display correcty anymore and kupfer keeps crashing on me. [01:21] Last updated video card drivers are gone [03:17] anyone able to lend a hand..struggling with squidguard - tried from source and tried from the repos keep getting stuck at the same point [03:17] DB->put: method not permitted before handle's open method [03:17] when trying to build the dbs [03:19] what repo is getting stuck? [03:19] map|work: a PPA? [03:20] not afaik [03:21] http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/i386/squidguard/downloaddeb http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu saucy main universe [03:21] so i dont think its a PPA?? [04:04] how do i mark a file as an executable bit [04:04] what command [04:05] chanserv, hello [04:08] knome_, hello [04:09] idleOne_, hello [04:09] hello [04:16] !patience [04:16] ka: It's not nice to randomly ping people, please don't do it. [04:16] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/ [04:16] You were also told this. [04:29] ka: what file? i typically find that by right-clicking i can set that.. or, use the commands in the terminal [04:30] http://askubuntu.com/questions/229589/make-sh-file-as-application-x-executable-file explains it pretty well [04:33] minecraft.jar [04:34] ka: thats now how you do it.. [04:35] i tried diffrent commands [04:35] http://askubuntu.com/questions/101746/how-can-i-execute-a-jar-file-from-the-terminal [04:35] java -jar Minecraft.jar [04:35] ka: if you have "tried" something that has broken your system, or java. or the jar, you'll want to address that [04:36] paste.ubuntu.com/684980/ [04:37] its me zack on a diffrent pc [04:38] holstein_, can u halp me [04:38] help [04:39] ka: i am.. please exercise patience.. and use the #xubuntu-offtopic channel for chat [04:39] !volunteers | ka [04:39] ka: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [04:39] i am reviewing the pastebin you gave, ka [04:40] ka: but, its not avialable.. i think you made an error in pasting ... please check and paste again.. thanks [04:40] im just asking if you can help or not [04:40] ka: can you please post your pastebin? the link you gave is broken [04:40] will xubuntu 14.04 have a default SSD TRIM support? [04:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6894980/ [04:41] ka, well do you have the jar file there? [04:41] peyam: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/trim-ssd-support-enabled-ubuntu-14-04 or #ubuntu+1 [04:41] yes [04:42] when is 14.04 coming out [04:42] april [04:42] !14.04 [04:42] Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu. See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. support in #ubuntu+1 [04:42] cool [04:42] the ".04" is "april".. the 14 is 2014 [04:42] oh right [04:43] holstein, very good [04:43] ka: "java -jar /home/karen/downloads/Minecraft.jar" [04:43] java -jar Minecraft.jar [04:43] yes sorry [04:44] you should have java installed ofcourse. [04:44] openjdk-7-jre [04:44] or 6 [04:44] the link i gave states how to deal with that, if you dont have java installed [04:44] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6895015/ [04:44] and no i have java runtime 6 [04:45] you have two jars [04:45] ka: what you typed is not what i typed [04:45] just jar [04:45] java -jar /home/karen/Downloads/Minecraft.jar [04:45] ka: you look at what i typed in *direct* reference to what you typed, and linked in pastebin, and you'll see what the issue it [04:45] is* [04:45] oh i already did that and did not work [04:45] ka: no you didnt [04:45] ka, you wrote downloads instead of Downloads [04:46] and it should be .jar only not .jar.jar [04:46] yes i did im also talking with #ubuntu [04:46] ka: "java -jar /home/karen/Downloads/Minecraft.jar" [04:47] i alredy did that [04:47] ka: no you didnt [04:47] ka: do *exactly* the above, and share the error messages, please [04:47] ka, you spelled wrong. just copy what holstein is writing [04:47] one sec i show previous stuff [04:47] ka: show the current stuff.. run that command /home/karen/downloads/Minecraft.jar [04:47] thats the path ^ [04:47] sorry.. [04:48] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6895030/ [04:48] "java -jar /home/karen/Downloads/Minecraft.jar" [04:48] ^^ [04:48] ka: the download is typically capital [04:48] ok [04:48] ka: you can cd into the directory, or use tab complete, or drag it over from the filemanager [04:49] ka: you'll need to point *precisely* to the file [04:49] ka, what is wrong with u. i told you twice and holstein many times. it's Downloads. not downloads. use ur tab key for autocompletation [04:51] it workes now thx [05:22] I am a new xubuntu user and I am trying to access the internet via firefox. [05:22] How do I do it? [05:23] xubuntu927: are you connected to the internet? [05:23] via network cable or wifi? [05:23] I have xubuntu-12.10 and the motherboard is connected to my router with a wire. [05:23] cable [05:24] I am running the operating system off of a usb [05:24] xubuntu927: you'll connect the router to the machines nework interface [05:25] the cable is connected to the motherboard's RJ-45 Lan Por [05:26] xubuntu927: then, assuming the network interface supports linux, and that its sending networking connectivity and giving an IP, you'll be able to browse the internet [05:28] This is a GA-970A-D3P motherboard. I have other machines connected to this router and all others are accessing the internet without a problem - both wirelessly and via cable. I have never used Xubuntu before. Might you be able to provide more precise instructions? For example, how would I know whether the network interface supports linux? [05:29] xubuntu927: well, ideally the company would let you konw, likke they did with the windows support.. but, are you able to browse with firefox? what happens? [05:32] I get a server not found error upon opening firefox. I will point out, this is the first machine I've ever constructed myself. [05:32] I should say... assembled myself. [05:33] xubuntu927: has it ever worked with anything? [05:34] I've never connected to the internet before with this machine. It's brand new. The equipment arrived two days ago. I completed assembly earlier today, the boot to operating system two hours ago. Now I can't access the internet. [05:35] then, you aver troubleshooting a few things at once [05:35] are* [05:35] i would open a terminal and run "ifconfig" [05:36] I will do that. Is there something I should look for in the ifconfig? [05:36] !paste | xubuntu927 if you dont konw what you are looking at [05:36] xubuntu927 if you dont konw what you are looking at: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [05:38] hmm.... I don't see how I can paste between these two machines. As I type this message, I am on a dell xps running windows xp. My monitor, keyboard and mouse are setup on a KVM switch to the new machine running Xubuntu. [05:39] I can toggle between the two machines, but I don't see how I can copy/paste between them. [05:39] xubuntu927: you can do what you like to convey the information to a volunteer here [05:39] take a picture. .explain what you are seeing.. etc [05:41] A photo: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/l2qu7mQnKUKy9Cak1e9rneGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink [05:42] eth0 should be that device.. its not getting an IP [05:43] i dont know your network.. and there are many variables here [05:43] is the device working? is it installed properly? does it work with a supported operating system [05:43] see.. the issue is, you could mess about forever with this, and if the card is installed incorrectly, or broken.. it'll never work.. for my time, i would try a few live CD's before installing at best [05:44] i would try and see that the bios sees the device. and, i would even try and use it with a supported operating system if possible.. [05:44] linux typically supports all wired network cards well, so, it could be something on the router settings, or the cable.. or, the device doesnt support linux [05:45] you can run "lspci" there, and see the device list [05:45] when you say device, you mean the motherboard? === karen is now known as Guest79254 [05:45] xubuntu927: *any* device really [05:45] can you guys give me some basic commands [05:45] Guest79254: ask, and a volunteer can try and help you [05:46] i just want to know some commands [05:46] and its karen from earlyer [05:46] Guest79254: sure.. just ask, and a volunteer can help [05:46] like who [05:46] !manual|Guest79254, [05:46] Guest79254,: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [05:47] Guest79254: you just ask, and any volunteer who can and has time will help [05:48] i know how to do all of that i just want to know some sudo commands or some other commands [05:48] Guest79254: sudo *is* a command [05:49] Guest79254: commands can perform tasks? what task are you trying to do? [05:49] i know but i mean some more actions like sudo apt-get install [05:49] Here is the lspci command: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/LDm6QHV9_uSem424GwLWB-GnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink [05:49] Guest79254: http://ss64.com/bash/ [05:50] Guest79254: what actions? you have to say "im trying to do such and such" and i'll suggest a command [05:50] nothing just cirious what i can do [05:50] Guest79254: use the #xubuntu-offtopic channel for chat.. thanks! [05:50] i have xubuntu not linux [05:51] Are there any steps that I can take to setup or configure my internet connection as a first time user of xubuntu? [05:51] Guest79254: xubuntu *is* linux [05:51] i think what im askig i s a topic of discussion for this channal [05:52] and i know that xubuntu is related to linux but are diffrent os [05:52] Guest79254: linux is a kernel.. not an operating system.. xubuntu uses the linux kernel [05:53] Guest79254: xubuntu *is* linux.. as i said above.. not as you stated above [05:53] xubuntu is not "related to linux".. it *is* linux... and uses the linux kernel just as all linux distros do [05:53] really i have a comp that has *only* linux on it as an os [05:54] Guest79254: again, linux is *not* an os.. but, yes, xubuntu is a linux distro [05:54] Is it possible to access the internet while booting xubuntu from my usb, thumb drive? [05:54] Guest79254, linux is NOT an OS [05:54] xubuntu927, yes, if your wifi card is supported. boot and see [05:54] xubuntu927: nothing about xubuntu is preventing that [05:55] i used a linux live cd to axses files on a windows os. but yes it is a os [05:55] Guest79254: its not [05:56] Guest79254: linux is the kernel, as i stated, and cfhowlett stated.. its not an os.. its a kernel.. linux is the kernel that xubuntu uses [05:56] I am trying to. I am in the ubuntu user's manual but it's quite different from xubuntu. [05:57] Perhaps I should just try ubuntu... [05:57] xubuntu927: its actucally not all that different.. and the driver support will be the same, and i think that might be where you are hung up [05:57] http://www.linux.org/threads/what-is-linux.4076/ proof [05:57] ok... how might I correct the driver support hangup? [05:57] Guest79254: its the kernel, friend.. [05:58] Guest79254, theological debates aside, do you have a support question? [05:58] xubuntu927: ideally the vendor would provide you a driver.. but, we are assuming thats the issue.. could be anything with your build [05:58] it evolved from a kernel [05:58] i have a question [05:58] Guest79254: please use the #xubuntu-offtopic channel for chat [05:59] im not chating i have a question [05:59] !details|Guest79254, [05:59] Guest79254,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [06:00] "Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system." from https://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html [06:00] i want to know more commands [06:00] i say that not to be combative, or put it up for debate, just to be clear.. [06:00] !bash|Guest79254, [06:00] Guest79254,: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [06:00] Guest79254: commands to do what? have you looked at the list i gave before? [06:01] any commands non spasific [06:02] is there a hacking channal [06:02] Guest79254, not here. [06:02] Guest79254: http://ss64.com/bash/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [06:02] where [06:02] !terminal [06:02] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [06:03] no is there a wite hat hacking channal [06:03] Guest79254: this is not a "where are the channels" channel.. please use #xubuntu-offtopic [06:03] http://elucidatedbinary.com/blog/2011/01/11/how-to-search-for-an-irc-channel-on-freenode/ [06:03] ok just wondering [06:04] #xubuntu-offtopic [07:15] sup [07:16] holstein. sup [07:16] ##freegeek [07:16] #xubuntu-offtopic [07:33] will backing up the panel files as described here http://alturl.com/p4355 allow me to delete a panel i might want to return to later? [07:35] !images [07:35] !image [07:36] how do you hack with xubuntu? [07:36] what are you looking to do? [07:37] hack the government [07:37] block their computer [07:37] s [07:37] you're nuts [07:37] i know [07:37] that's why they giving me medicine [07:38] and the nsa is probably listening to this conversation [07:38] but i don't take it [07:38] no worries [07:38] Maaz, wrong channel - ask elsewhere [07:38] !ot [07:38] #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [07:38] okey i'll do my best [07:39] but if the nsa is listening [07:39] that makes me important [07:40] or aren't i important to them [07:41] Maaz, wrong channel - take it someplace else. this channel is for xubuntu support [07:41] oke [07:41] i need support [07:41] i want to install hack programs on xubuntu [07:42] Maaz, last chance - you were already told that's not going to happen here. [07:42] !hacking [07:42] A hacker is a person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular, as defined by Request for Comments (RFC) 1392 - i.e. a good programmer -- crackers on the other hand break systems, see also !piracy [07:43] fala anões [07:43] hi bris [07:43] brod [07:45] cubed_root: I've backed up and put back panels like that in the past [08:16] will backing up the panel files as described here http://alturl.com/p4355 allow me to delete a panel i might want to return to later? [08:20] cubed_root: as I said a short while ago - I've backed up and put back panels like that in the past [08:21] sorry - i hadn't seen your comment, thanks [08:21] :) [08:21] so those 2 files should be sufficient? [08:21] worked for me :) [08:21] cool! thanks : ) [08:22] though - if you've got a launcher that relies on something being installed - it will be empty until it's reinstalled [08:23] launcher - a gui widget/icon that launches an app? i just want to make sure i understand [08:23] yep [08:23] cool thanks [08:24] I use libreoffice - I have a launcher for bits of it - if I copy panel config before I've installed libreoffice - the launcher is there, but useless [08:25] ah - ok [09:15] !hacking [09:15] A hacker is a person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular, as defined by Request for Comments (RFC) 1392 - i.e. a good programmer -- crackers on the other hand break systems, see also !piracy [09:16] !cracking [09:16] piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o [09:17] hey [09:18] i want to install linux on my computer but i've xubuntu how can i install it? [09:18] Insert the CD, boot it, follow the on screen instructions. [09:18] thanks [09:20] I just have connected my old 3 in1 desk jet printer to my xubuntu machine, how can I make sure that my computer install the necessary drivers/ [09:21] the printer is from hp [09:31] !msg ubottu find hp [09:31] well_laid_lawn: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [09:32] sohail-ahmed: try in a terminal apt-cache search hp [09:32] there should be a package for hp printers iirc [09:35] !msg ubottu find hp [09:35] sohail-ahmed: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [09:36] I have tried apt-cache search hp and my terminal gets full with a lisst [09:38] !printing [09:38] Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu [09:39] sohail-ahmed: Please follow the links given to get your specific printer working. [09:39] There is a sound problem in Toshiba notebook Satellite L30 [09:40] I recently installed xubuntu in my latopy [09:41] That means i'm freshman in ubuntu, pl help me! [09:42] thanks every body its working now. === GTB3NW_AWAY is now known as GTB3NW === GTB3NW is now known as GTB3NW_AWAY === GTB3NW_AWAY is now known as GTB3NW [12:49] I am seeking some assistance with configuring xubuntu. I am successfully loading it onto a machine via a 64 gig usb thumb drive, but I am unable to access the internet with my Lan cable. [12:50] I can pay a litecoin or bitcoin fee to anyone who is successfully able to get me connected. [12:53] The green LED of the Lan port comes on, but Xubuntu does not recognize the connection. [12:53] It reads, "Wired Network: Disconnected" [12:55] Is no one able to help? [12:56] xubuntu809: Check dmesg [12:58] Is dmesg a command for terminal? [13:01] I am reading about dmesg. Is there an attribute that allows for the checking of lan connection specifically? [13:02] Type "dmesg" in a terminal. [13:02] Pull the cable, type it again. Plug it back in, type it again. [13:05] okay, dmesg has been typed in the pre/post cable plugin routine as directed. As you'd expect, there's a boatload of on screen output. [13:05] Is there some output I should assess? [13:12] I have xubuntu installed on a pc where my shift keys are broken. Therefore I want to use my right-control key for a shift key. What should I do to make this happen [13:18] bekks, any other direction? [13:20] sohail-ahmed: xmodmap is the keyword :) [13:29] koegs; After going though the info xmodmap quickly, I have tried xmodmap -e “Shift_L=Control_R” but it says 1 error encountered. [13:35] koegs:I have also tried; xmodmap -e "keysym Shift_L = Control_L" [13:46] Is anyone else interested and able to help me? [13:48] I want to search for files in thunar. Is using catfish still the preferred method, or is there a better way? [13:51] @moultonr_; I am no expert but i use [13:51] locate filename [13:52] to find files [13:52] sohail-ahmed, I don't know what I'm looking for though. I'm trying to find where Thunderbird sticks it's icons [13:55] do locate thundarbird [13:56] **thunderbird [14:00] !hacking [14:00] A hacker is a person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular, as defined by Request for Comments (RFC) 1392 - i.e. a good programmer -- crackers on the other hand break systems, see also !piracy [14:00] !hack [14:10] sohail-ahmed, all I see is the regular Thunderbird icon. [14:13] sohail-ahmed: you need to clear Control_R first [14:16] thanks koegs for responding. So what I understood is that I need to first clear control-r and shift-r and then do the mappings. The dashes represents underscores. [14:20] moultonar; i am not sure what exactly you are looking for but a quick search for thunderbird icons i found this folder /usr/share/icons/HighContrast/scalable/apps-extra/thunderbird-icon.svg [14:24] sohail-ahmed, I'm looking for a nice version of the trash can icon for a blog post I'm working on. I've ended up using xmag to take a shot of my trash can, and I'm making a nice one in GIMP based on that [14:28] moultar; http://www.softicons.com/free-icons/folder-icons/folder-icon-set-by-deleket/mozilla-thunderbird-icon [15:09] I have tried booting to xubuntu from usb stick, but I can't get the internet to work. I am now trying ubuntu from usb stick, and any window I open fails to render graphics correctly. the video output looks jumbled. Can anyone help with this? [15:54] sohail-ahmed, http://fossfolks.com/how-to/when-you-can-not-empty-trash-in-thunderbird-with-imap-folders/ I ended up just making one... [15:59] great [16:55] hello everybody, i just installed xubuntu in my old overclocked pIV and everything looks fine, everything seems to work, i choosed to install propietary drivers on install and to download updates. I have a nvidia graphics card, and the nvidia driver installed by default. Nevertheless, in the MENU, SYSTEM, i have 2 instances of NVIDIA X Server Settings, is that normal? [16:57] i took a look to the software center and searched for NVIDIA, the driver is installed is the version 96 (for old nvidia graphics) is that the driver i should use? is normal to have to instances of NVIDIA X Server Settings in my menu? Im running a GeForce4 MX 440 AGP8x [16:59] should i unninstall that driver (version 96) and install the "actual" or the version 173?? thank you in advance [17:12] whats up peoples. [17:12] o wow, this is logged? not cool. peace. [17:13] gemmaxubuntu, newer version is in most cases better, but might not even work with all cards. [17:14] gemmaxubuntu, as long as everything works for you, and you don't feel any slowness, i guess you are fine running what you are [17:15] im just concerned about having 2 instances of NVIDIA X Server Settings in my menu, and, if posible, may i try newer driver to see what happend or will my installation crash if not supported and then i have to reinstall xubuntu? [17:16] im just a bit slow in flash videos and games, of course not posible to watch HD flash enbeded [17:16] the newer driver might break something, but it's highly unlikely you will have to reinstall. you might need to login from a text console to revert though [17:16] so may i just uninstall the driver, reboot, and try to install the new nvidia driver from the xubuntu software center? [17:16] as for help see; [17:16] have you installed some driver from outside the repositories? that might be one of the reasons you're seeing the item twice [17:17] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081649 [17:17] gemmaxubuntu, which xubuntu version are you running? [17:17] no, is default installation connected to internet and checking download updates and use third party software [17:17] gemmaxubuntu, also re: slowness on videos, how much ram do you have? [17:17] lts full updated [17:17] 12.04 [17:18] gemmaxubuntu, run jockey (should be in the menu as "additional drivers" [17:18] i have 2gb ram, piv 2.4 overclocked 2.88 so i can use the 400 mem bus [17:18] gemmaxubuntu, that should help you with the driver selection/installation [17:21] i runned additional drivers right after install, it shows i only need the nvidia driver wich is installed and active, i have the option to delete it from here, should i start there? [17:21] or should i unninstall from the software center better? [17:22] in jockey, it says this is the recommended driver [17:22] :( === sysadmin is now known as Guest37060 [17:23] i guess i wont be able to watch hd movies from my xubuntu, thats why i want to give it a try to one of the other 3 nvidia drivers [17:23] gemmaxubuntu ;; have a look http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081649 [17:24] gemmaxubuntu, the jockey interface should do whatever is needed re: removing/installing [17:26] sohail-ahmed: i read your link, it says i should install my drivers manually, is that means that there are more nvidia drivers than those on the repositories? === Guest37060 is now known as VlanX [17:29] gemmaxubuntu: its hard to pin point the issue, often the driver may not be the only issue. I Suggest you try various drivers as suugested by gemmaxubuntu and also put a look at nvidia config. [17:29] mmm, im going to unninstall the actual driver and make a reestart and reconnect to the IRC, then i will think wich driver to use, jockey seems to choose a proper driver, maybe i just cant watch hd with my currect hardware :( i tested a game (tremulous) and works perfectly, so i guess the driver is ok, i just dont like the 2 instances of nvidia xserver settings [17:30] i'll be back after uninstalling the jockey sugested driver, set http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081649 to favourites to purge xserver xorg settings, and try a newer driver [17:30] thank you, brb [17:34] settings purged, nvidia driver uninstalled through software center (lol, i had to unninstall twice, now i understand my double xserver settings entrance in the menu :) ), im rebooting see what happend, brb [17:45] perfect, i uninstalled the nvidia driver and my xubuntu works perfectly, tested tremulous and worked also high quality, im goint to test a flash hd video on my browser to see if there is a difference. how do i know wich graphic driver im using now? [17:46] use settings manger [17:48] incredible, with no nvidia drivers, flash hd video perform much better [17:48] were in the settings manager i can see the graphic driver? [17:49] settings manager ... additional drivers [17:51] there i see im not using any aditional driver, so i guess im using xubuntu default driver (was that alsa or something like that) nevertheless additional drivers recommends me to install NVIDIA driver but my computer performs slower with that driver [17:53] i dont understand... :) [17:53] hope to be a linux geek! :) [17:53] gemmaxubuntu, you should be happy that the open source drivers work well for you [17:54] yes i am happy [17:54] gemmaxubuntu, there's no need to install the proprietary nvidia drivers in that case [17:54] so happy [17:54] i just dont understand why additional drivers recommend me to install the nvidia driver [17:55] i can watch now 720p videos on my browser and with the nvidia driver i could not [17:55] i should report to xubuntu? [17:55] gemmaxubuntu, you just did. that's "normal"; for some people, the open source drivers work better [17:56] and just so i learn, how are the graphic open source drivers called? if they have a name, and, how do i play with the settings so i can choose performance over quality? if there is a way (disable antialising and those things) [17:57] gemmaxubuntu, nouveau [17:58] gemmaxubuntu, there isn't special controls, just the generic ones (see 'appearance' from the settings manager, also 'window manager' and 'window manager tweaks' which control some of that stuff) [17:58] (not really related with the driver itself though) [18:00] i see many people having trouble with my same graphics card and most of them the go back to xubuntu 11 and install the propietary driver as recomended by xubuntu experts, also xubuntu recomends itself to install the nvidia driver and installs it by default if you check propietary drivers on install, how can i help those people so they just install xubuntu latest LTS version and use open source drivers wich perform better than t [18:01] "xubuntu experts" being who? :) [18:01] sorry, just guessed, probably not so experts hehe [18:01] gemmaxubuntu,, to play with your settings you need to have run sudo nvidia-settings , caution it may change you driver. [18:01] sohail-ahmed, not with the open source driver. [18:02]