| === Uno is now known as Plio | ||
| Plio | I know 14.04 is pretty much on a daily release, but is it stable enough for a production machine yet? | 01:35 |
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| pietro10 | Hi. In Kubuntu 14.04 with kde-config-gtk and gtk[23]-engines-oxygen, font rendering does not look like it does in KDE programs. Firefox, however, has perfect font rendering. How do I fix this? Thanks. | 01:36 |
| k1l | Plio: if you need to ask that the answer is just: no | 01:36 |
| k1l | Plio: it is quite stable, but there is no intention to keep it stable while in dev release. so no, no production systems suggested | 01:36 |
| Plio | kil: Cool, thanks. I'd love to install 12.04 LTS, but I really like the ability to close windows when using windows spread. Not sure if there's any way to do that. | 01:37 |
| === Mobildug_ is now known as Mobildug | ||
| jKlaus | Hey, is anyone here running 14.04? | 04:59 |
| jKlaus | if so, thoughts? | 04:59 |
| jKlaus | brb | 05:00 |
| genii | jKlaus: I'm on Kubuntu 14.04 and enjoying it thus far | 05:03 |
| jKlaus | genii, perhaps I'll download ubuntu 14.04 then | 05:03 |
| jKlaus | I doubt we'll see any bug fixes that can't be updated later.. | 05:03 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 12:20 |
| jack | salut | 13:06 |
| jack | now if i want to upgrade a saucy install to trusty | 13:07 |
| jack | how would i start? | 13:07 |
| jack | is there a meta-pkg that dep-forces all the rest to newest? | 13:08 |
| jack | or do i only need to edit sources.list and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? | 13:10 |
| bekks | Neither nor. | 13:10 |
| jack | huh? | 13:10 |
| bekks | Use: do-release-upgrade -d | 13:10 |
| jack | after fixing sources.list? | 13:10 |
| bekks | No. | 13:11 |
| bekks | Dont touch the sources manually. | 13:11 |
| jack | does it as well? cool | 13:11 |
| k1l | jack: no "fixing" needed on ubuntu. we got routines for that. | 13:11 |
| jack | :) | 13:11 |
| jack | i still had to append a few entries | 13:12 |
| jack | like for google-chrome | 13:12 |
| k1l | hmm. | 13:12 |
| bekks | Remove all PPA before. | 13:12 |
| k1l | dont put them into the sources.list. on ubuntu they get entries in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 13:13 |
| jack | or adobe...because of the flash plugin | 13:13 |
| bekks | Uninstall all software instakled from PPA as well prior update. | 13:13 |
| jack | ok, thx | 13:13 |
| christoffer | Anyone else have any issues with printing in Xubuntu 14.04? ...when trying to print test page to network cups server it starts to print infinite empty pages | 13:15 |
| penguin42 | christoffer: I'd check /var/log/cups to see if there are any errors | 13:16 |
| penguin42 | <breakfast> | 13:16 |
| christoffer | penguin42, already done that, that's why I'm asking if someone here has had any similiar problems | 13:18 |
| christoffer | as I haven't found any problem/error messages | 13:18 |
| TJ- | christoffer: It's worth looking inside the spooled files to see what, exactly, is being sent to the printer | 13:22 |
| shadeslayer | pietro10: kde-config-touchpad should now be unbroken ( package still needs building and migration ) | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | pietro10: let me know if dist-upgrade still wants to remove it | 14:41 |
| === Wug is now known as 21WACCEWU | ||
| BluesKaj | kde-touchpad is working here after a reboot | 14:55 |
| TJ- | Grrr! "grub-install: error: attempt to install to encrypted disk without cryptodisk enabled. Set `GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=1' in file `/etc/default/grub'." ... and yet it is specified! | 15:12 |
| mnemoc | hi, I upgraded to xubuntu 14.04 and the mouse pointer in my secondary display (VGA) is deform and followed by a black box... any hint of who can be responsible? | 18:34 |
| penguin42 | graphics driver | 18:34 |
| penguin42 | mnemoc: You can probably make it work again by setting the SWCursor option in an Xorg.conf fragment | 18:35 |
| mnemoc | I tried using xorg-edgers and still same problem... radeon | 18:35 |
| mnemoc | thanks, I'll try that | 18:36 |
| penguin42 | mnemoc: OK, so reporting it to the upstream Radeon lists | 18:36 |
| mnemoc | is it ok to use radeon for an amd apu a5? | 18:37 |
| * penguin42 doesn't know | 18:38 | |
| penguin42 | I'd expect it to work, but there again I came across someones laptop with a very knew APU that refused to boot 13.10 | 18:38 |
| penguin42 | mnemoc: If you're only problem is the mouse pointer the SWCursor thing should work as a fix | 18:39 |
| mnemoc | i didn't get a display in 13.10 until I installed the xorg-edgers ppa, but iirc the driver name was different. | 18:39 |
| mnemoc | I'll try that SWCursor thing now. thanks | 18:39 |
| penguin42 | mnemoc: OK, well that suggests 14.04 is getting there | 18:39 |
| mnemoc | :) | 18:40 |
| mnemoc | another issue I have is that 2 of my 3 USB ports (coming from my only usb3 hub) are in deep sleep :( even setting power/control to on and autosuspend to -1 :( | 18:43 |
| penguin42 | one of the ports is oK? | 18:47 |
| penguin42 | is this an onboard USB port ? | 18:47 |
| mnemoc | penguin42: SWCursor did the trick, thanks! | 19:01 |
| mnemoc | penguin42: yes, onboard USBs of my laptop | 19:01 |
| mnemoc | penguin42: the powered USB2.0 works fine, the USB3.0/5000M hub is in deep sleep :\ | 19:02 |
| penguin42 | mnemoc: OK, so I wonder about the 3rd port that isn't in deep sleep; some laptops have a USB port that's *always* powered even if the laptop in sleep, and I wonder if it's that one? | 19:02 |
| mnemoc | it is a yellow port... so yes, it's the case | 19:02 |
| mnemoc | (in 13.10 they all worked fine) | 19:03 |
| penguin42 | ok, I'd file that against Linux and mark it as a regression | 19:03 |
| mnemoc | btw, i remembered the name of the video driver I used in 13.10, glamoregl... tried that one instead of radeon and got a nice serie of segfaults :p | 19:04 |
| mnemoc | penguin42: ubuntu-bug linux ? | 19:05 |
| penguin42 | I thought modern X already used glamout | 19:05 |
| penguin42 | mnemoc: Yeh I'd said so | 19:05 |
| astropirate | Hello friends | 19:07 |
| astropirate | How can I install the 14.04 Alpha without a DVD? | 19:07 |
| penguin42 | use a USB thumb drive | 19:07 |
| teward | write the ISO to a USB drive | 19:07 |
| teward | blah, penguin42 beat me to it | 19:07 |
| astropirate | alright | 19:07 |
| astropirate | i have to go buy those :( | 19:07 |
| astropirate | i th ought i'd never have to buy another | 19:07 |
| penguin42 | always good to have a few 4-8GB ones lying around for stuff like this | 19:08 |
| astropirate | yah perhaps | 19:08 |
| astropirate | i forgot my blank DVDs at work | 19:08 |
| astropirate | is the Alpha version usable? | 19:08 |
| k1l_ | its a dev release | 19:08 |
| astropirate | I screwed up my current 12.04 install | 19:08 |
| astropirate | and instead of installing 13.10 and in a couple of months upgrading again | 19:09 |
| penguin42 | it's a dev release but isn't doing too bad | 19:09 |
| k1l_ | if you need to worry about stableness and usabilty then dont use it :/ | 19:09 |
| astropirate | it would be very convenient to just upgrade to 14.04 | 19:09 |
| bekks | astropirate: In April, you can. | 19:09 |
| astropirate | bekks, aye, I know it is being released as final in April, but wondering if it is usable now | 19:09 |
| astropirate | as in won't randomly crash | 19:09 |
| astropirate | "stable" relative word | 19:10 |
| bekks | astropirate: Until the final release, it is not stable. | 19:10 |
| astropirate | bekks, thanks buddy | 19:10 |
| mnemoc | penguin42: after ppa-purging xorg-edgers, glxinfo | grep render tells OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 128 bits) | 19:10 |
| mnemoc | penguin42: and glamour is gone from dpkg -l | 19:11 |
| k1l_ | astropirate: its usable. but as you know it will break if you need important stuff to do | 19:14 |
| BluesKaj | stability is the word, but not necessarily so on devs , but so far so good with Kubuntu 14.04 here | 19:15 |
| k1l_ | yes, stability is in the focus after the release :) | 19:15 |
| BluesKaj | i dont need a stable release up to a point, since I'm not running work environment pc | 19:19 |
| mnemoc | penguin42: installing the ati driver solved the the hwcursor issue, and how glxinfo tells: OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD KABINI | 19:30 |
| mnemoc | no clue what's the diff between radeon and ati :( | 19:31 |
| penguin42 | mnemoc: Check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 19:31 |
| penguin42 | mnemoc: I thought the -ati was just a wrapper that loaded the appropriate driver | 19:32 |
| mnemoc | it pulled xserver-xorg-video-glamoregl in | 19:32 |
| mnemoc | but /var/log/Xorg.0.log still tells RADEON(0)... | 19:33 |
| mnemoc | now I only need to get my USB3 ports back to be completely happy :) | 19:34 |
| astropirate | I'm glad stability is the new focus | 19:40 |
| astropirate | specially after the 12.04 LTS debacle :( | 19:40 |
| astropirate | Upgrading to 14.04 wish me luck | 20:41 |
| mansoor | Friends, how do I get to the "restricted-drivers" application to install nvidia propiatory drivers? | 22:51 |
| mansoor | I can't seemt o be able to find it | 22:51 |
| mansoor | Anybody here? | 22:56 |
| k1l_ | system settings, updates, last tab | 22:57 |
| k1l_ | or you just use apt-get | 22:57 |
| k1l_ | and 14.04 is still in dev-mode so installing a nvidia driver might not be the biggest challenge | 22:57 |
| mansoor | HAHAHAH wtf? | 23:01 |
| mansoor | i installed 14.04 | 23:01 |
| mansoor | but it says 13.10 everywhere | 23:01 |
| mansoor | except the boot screen | 23:01 |
| k1l_ | mansoor: you know its not final released yet? | 23:02 |
| mansoor | k1l_, yes. It just threw me off :p | 23:02 |
| === soee_ is now known as soee | ||
| pietro10 | Hi. On KDE, all GTK+ apps except firefox-trunk for some reason are not rendering fonts properly, even though gtk[23]-engines-oxygen is set. How do I fix this? Thanks. | 23:55 |
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