=== Uno is now known as Plio [01:35] I know 14.04 is pretty much on a daily release, but is it stable enough for a production machine yet? [01:36] Hi. In Kubuntu 14.04 with kde-config-gtk and gtk[23]-engines-oxygen, font rendering does not look like it does in KDE programs. Firefox, however, has perfect font rendering. How do I fix this? Thanks. [01:36] Plio: if you need to ask that the answer is just: no [01:36] Plio: it is quite stable, but there is no intention to keep it stable while in dev release. so no, no production systems suggested [01:37] kil: Cool, thanks. I'd love to install 12.04 LTS, but I really like the ability to close windows when using windows spread. Not sure if there's any way to do that. === Mobildug_ is now known as Mobildug [04:59] Hey, is anyone here running 14.04? [04:59] if so, thoughts? [05:00] brb [05:03] jKlaus: I'm on Kubuntu 14.04 and enjoying it thus far [05:03] genii, perhaps I'll download ubuntu 14.04 then [05:03] I doubt we'll see any bug fixes that can't be updated later.. [12:20] Howdy folks [13:06] salut [13:07] now if i want to upgrade a saucy install to trusty [13:07] how would i start? [13:08] is there a meta-pkg that dep-forces all the rest to newest? [13:10] or do i only need to edit sources.list and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? [13:10] Neither nor. [13:10] huh? [13:10] Use: do-release-upgrade -d [13:10] after fixing sources.list? [13:11] No. [13:11] Dont touch the sources manually. [13:11] does it as well? cool [13:11] jack: no "fixing" needed on ubuntu. we got routines for that. [13:11] :) [13:12] i still had to append a few entries [13:12] like for google-chrome [13:12] hmm. [13:12] Remove all PPA before. [13:13] dont put them into the sources.list. on ubuntu they get entries in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [13:13] or adobe...because of the flash plugin [13:13] Uninstall all software instakled from PPA as well prior update. [13:13] ok, thx [13:15] Anyone else have any issues with printing in Xubuntu 14.04? ...when trying to print test page to network cups server it starts to print infinite empty pages [13:16] christoffer: I'd check /var/log/cups to see if there are any errors [13:16] [13:18] penguin42, already done that, that's why I'm asking if someone here has had any similiar problems [13:18] as I haven't found any problem/error messages [13:22] christoffer: It's worth looking inside the spooled files to see what, exactly, is being sent to the printer [14:41] pietro10: kde-config-touchpad should now be unbroken ( package still needs building and migration ) [14:41] pietro10: let me know if dist-upgrade still wants to remove it === Wug is now known as 21WACCEWU [14:55] kde-touchpad is working here after a reboot [15:12] Grrr! "grub-install: error: attempt to install to encrypted disk without cryptodisk enabled. Set `GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=1' in file `/etc/default/grub'." ... and yet it is specified! [18:34] hi, I upgraded to xubuntu 14.04 and the mouse pointer in my secondary display (VGA) is deform and followed by a black box... any hint of who can be responsible? [18:34] graphics driver [18:35] mnemoc: You can probably make it work again by setting the SWCursor option in an Xorg.conf fragment [18:35] I tried using xorg-edgers and still same problem... radeon [18:36] thanks, I'll try that [18:36] mnemoc: OK, so reporting it to the upstream Radeon lists [18:37] is it ok to use radeon for an amd apu a5? [18:38] * penguin42 doesn't know [18:38] I'd expect it to work, but there again I came across someones laptop with a very knew APU that refused to boot 13.10 [18:39] mnemoc: If you're only problem is the mouse pointer the SWCursor thing should work as a fix [18:39] i didn't get a display in 13.10 until I installed the xorg-edgers ppa, but iirc the driver name was different. [18:39] I'll try that SWCursor thing now. thanks [18:39] mnemoc: OK, well that suggests 14.04 is getting there [18:40] :) [18:43] another issue I have is that 2 of my 3 USB ports (coming from my only usb3 hub) are in deep sleep :( even setting power/control to on and autosuspend to -1 :( [18:47] one of the ports is oK? [18:47] is this an onboard USB port ? [19:01] penguin42: SWCursor did the trick, thanks! [19:01] penguin42: yes, onboard USBs of my laptop [19:02] penguin42: the powered USB2.0 works fine, the USB3.0/5000M hub is in deep sleep :\ [19:02] mnemoc: OK, so I wonder about the 3rd port that isn't in deep sleep; some laptops have a USB port that's *always* powered even if the laptop in sleep, and I wonder if it's that one? [19:02] it is a yellow port... so yes, it's the case [19:03] (in 13.10 they all worked fine) [19:03] ok, I'd file that against Linux and mark it as a regression [19:04] btw, i remembered the name of the video driver I used in 13.10, glamoregl... tried that one instead of radeon and got a nice serie of segfaults :p [19:05] penguin42: ubuntu-bug linux ? [19:05] I thought modern X already used glamout [19:05] mnemoc: Yeh I'd said so [19:07] Hello friends [19:07] How can I install the 14.04 Alpha without a DVD? [19:07] use a USB thumb drive [19:07] write the ISO to a USB drive [19:07] blah, penguin42 beat me to it [19:07] alright [19:07] i have to go buy those :( [19:07] i th ought i'd never have to buy another [19:08] always good to have a few 4-8GB ones lying around for stuff like this [19:08] yah perhaps [19:08] i forgot my blank DVDs at work [19:08] is the Alpha version usable? [19:08] its a dev release [19:08] I screwed up my current 12.04 install [19:09] and instead of installing 13.10 and in a couple of months upgrading again [19:09] it's a dev release but isn't doing too bad [19:09] if you need to worry about stableness and usabilty then dont use it :/ [19:09] it would be very convenient to just upgrade to 14.04 [19:09] astropirate: In April, you can. [19:09] bekks, aye, I know it is being released as final in April, but wondering if it is usable now [19:09] as in won't randomly crash [19:10] "stable" relative word [19:10] astropirate: Until the final release, it is not stable. [19:10] bekks, thanks buddy [19:10] penguin42: after ppa-purging xorg-edgers, glxinfo | grep render tells OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 128 bits) [19:11] penguin42: and glamour is gone from dpkg -l [19:14] astropirate: its usable. but as you know it will break if you need important stuff to do [19:15] stability is the word, but not necessarily so on devs , but so far so good with Kubuntu 14.04 here [19:15] yes, stability is in the focus after the release :) [19:19] i dont need a stable release up to a point, since I'm not running work environment pc [19:30] penguin42: installing the ati driver solved the the hwcursor issue, and how glxinfo tells: OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD KABINI [19:31] no clue what's the diff between radeon and ati :( [19:31] mnemoc: Check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log [19:32] mnemoc: I thought the -ati was just a wrapper that loaded the appropriate driver [19:32] it pulled xserver-xorg-video-glamoregl in [19:33] but /var/log/Xorg.0.log still tells RADEON(0)... [19:34] now I only need to get my USB3 ports back to be completely happy :) [19:40] I'm glad stability is the new focus [19:40] specially after the 12.04 LTS debacle :( [20:41] Upgrading to 14.04 wish me luck [22:51] Friends, how do I get to the "restricted-drivers" application to install nvidia propiatory drivers? [22:51] I can't seemt o be able to find it [22:56] Anybody here? [22:57] system settings, updates, last tab [22:57] or you just use apt-get [22:57] and 14.04 is still in dev-mode so installing a nvidia driver might not be the biggest challenge [23:01] HAHAHAH wtf? [23:01] i installed 14.04 [23:01] but it says 13.10 everywhere [23:01] except the boot screen [23:02] mansoor: you know its not final released yet? [23:02] k1l_, yes. It just threw me off :p === soee_ is now known as soee [23:55] Hi. On KDE, all GTK+ apps except firefox-trunk for some reason are not rendering fonts properly, even though gtk[23]-engines-oxygen is set. How do I fix this? Thanks.