[04:07] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOMX3deeW6Q [04:07] not the first and certainly not the last :) [04:07] " [04:07] 'Tainted Love' Performed By Disk Drives Will Have You Geek Out" [06:33] hey [06:42] \o [06:42] kernel is still compiling :| [06:42] hey MartijnVdS [06:42] just gets up? [06:42] raspberry pi... [06:42] mapps: yeah [06:42] i just got home:D went on casino and now vodka and sprite [06:42] :D [06:45] ooh! ooh! [06:45] LINK vmlinux [06:45] http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19c35oidyf35igif/original.gif [07:57] AlanBell: for reference: Raspberry Pi kernel compile on the Pi took about 12 hours (@ 900MHz, "Medium" overclock setting) [08:12] hey [08:13] someone used proxmox before? [09:04] gah, chrome is broken [09:12] directhex: how? [09:18] dunno. i deleted the config folder & fixed itr [09:23] oh you hit the "Couldn't load your profile" bug? [09:23] I get that every few months [09:28] i had that recently [09:28] after my laptop died when out of battery [09:54] good morning boys and girls. [10:35] yo [10:38] morning popey [11:24] aaloha [11:24] so trusty is running nicely [11:24] hEyt [11:24] Someone used proxmox before? :S [11:24] I still have that annoying bug which find it hard to reproduce but does exist. where you shut down your machine and it restarts. most anonying when you#'re on a plane [11:26] Can someone help me about proxmox? [11:32] xalyy: it's kinda quiet in here at the weekend, maybe explain the problem abd someone might see it [11:32] Okay [11:33] Well I made a virutal box for testing out the proxmox and installed the iso then tried to open the https://myip:8006 web interface but it not works [11:43] czajkowski: i never shut my laptop down [11:49] uhm. system settings seems to be missing a date/time thing in trusty [11:49] or am I blind [11:49] I can't see how to change my time (am in the wrong timezone) [11:51] popey: mine is gone too [11:53] AlanBell: bug 1278063 [11:53] bug 1278063 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "date and time settings missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1278063 [11:53] pls confirm [11:54] do you have unity-control-center-datetime installed? [11:54] oh sorry, got to go [11:55] gooby pls [11:55] Laney: nope, I didn't have that [11:56] will that also fix bug 1074314? [11:56] bug 1074314 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "indicator-datetime configuration panel only works in Unity session" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1074314 [11:57] Laney: I didn't, just figured that out and updated the bug [12:03] lol so the reason it's broken is because they renamed the panel and then forgot to update the gnome .desktop [12:05] or have not yet got round to updating the .desktop [12:06] change was commited two weeks ago [12:06] bug 1277900 also [12:06] xalyy, Have you set up the NAT stuff for your VM? [12:06] Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1277900 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1277900). The error has been logged [12:06] oof [12:06] bug 1277900 also [12:06] silly bot ☻ [12:07] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-datetime/trunk.14.04/revision/300 [12:07] i take back what i previously said [12:07] it's actually been intentionally broken [12:10] awilkins: What you mean? [12:11] xalyy, When you have a VM, it's isolated from the network unless you specifically set up network ports for other machines to communicate with it [12:11] popey: your other bug is a dupe, at least for datetime [12:11] The default setup on VirtualBox is, AFAIK, NAT [12:11] feel free to mark it as such [12:11] i thougt it might be but couldn't see another [12:11] Which means you have to map ports on the VM to ports on your host machine if you want to communicate with the server inside [12:12] Have a look at the "Advanced" dialog in the network setup [12:12] you'll have to change your shortcut because the panel applet has been renamed in order to prevent it from working with g-c-c, this will also invalidate your shortcut [12:12] or bin and re-create it I guess. [12:12] shame [12:12] just change "indicator-datetime" to "datetime" [12:12] it was sound, but I understand [12:13] and g-c-c to u-c-c [12:13] just removed it and re-dragged it in from the dash [12:14] also why the heck do you have shortcuts to individual settings on the launcher? [12:14] you are not the first to ask this ☻ [12:14] I use the sound applet a lot [12:14] so do i but i just clik the sound indicator [12:14] docking station + bluetooth headphones + linux = annoyance [12:14] Ok im back [12:14] faster to super+9 [12:14] for me [12:14] no. [12:15] my sound menu is huge, so click then go all the way to the bottom to get sound settings [12:15] So [12:15] Im here at the advanced settings [12:15] Do I have to add the 8006 port? [12:15] xalyy: no, I'd just change NAT to Bridged and restart the VM [12:16] clean it out? [12:16] Okay [12:16] still easier to use launcher [12:16] it really needs an easier way to remove every audio player ever [12:16] annoying i have to use it so much [12:16] yeah [12:16] Still not works [12:17] you know what's even easier? having a settings menu on the panel [12:17] i dont use most settings, only sound [12:17] and the other four ones :) [12:17] well, and bluetooth [12:17] I switched to nat [12:17] But still not shows the website [12:18] xalyy: bridged, not nat, and restart the vm [12:18] I mean to bridged [12:18] Sorry mistyped :D [12:18] right, and find out what IP the VM has once booted [12:18] https://192.168.1.101:8006/ [12:18] but not worksss [12:18] point your browser at that http://I.p.address:8006/ [12:18] like before [12:18] :S [12:18] did you restart the vm? [12:20] Why is it not working? :( [12:20] did you restart the vm? [12:20] Yes [12:20] inside the vm, if you 'telnet 192.168.1.101 8006' do you get a response? [12:21] http://gyazo.com/18524a7c76cc6319d8c2fa86cab9837a.png [12:21] This is what i got [12:22] That looks promising [12:23] what is the next step? :D [12:24] http://imgur.com/0qvXxNd [12:24] thats what I do to test [12:28] ok [12:29] I not got what u got but ok :D [12:30] you got a response of some kind? [12:32] i got what i sent [12:33] U saw the pic? [12:46] Anyone? === LjL-BetaMale is now known as LjL-DeltaMale [12:52] xalyy, You got a response - it connected and dropped, rather than timing out [12:53] xalyy, That means there is a server running with that port open, rather than nothing being there [13:01] wow.. cross-compiling a RPi kernel: 5 minutes. Compiling a kernel on the pi: 24 hours (including docs/manual/etc. packages) [13:01] the kernel is very easy to cross compile tho [13:01] ali1234: yes, I know that now :) [13:02] pretty much nothing else is so easy [13:02] because of library dependencies [13:02] installing a cross-compiler is easy, but for most other things you need at least libc [13:04] with multiarch it's not as bad as it was - can get the libs in [13:12] penguin42: even of incompatible archs? [13:12] 192.168.3.249 .GPS. 1 u 34 64 3 0.581 0.203 0.014 [13:12] \o/ [13:13] MartijnVdS: Yes [13:13] MartijnVdS: installing libs normally isn't a problem (as long as their multiarch safe - not everything is) [13:14] MartijnVdS: Sometime need to have qemu installed incase the installation scripts need to run something [13:33] Im back! Connection lost [13:33] awilkins then what can I do to solve the problem [13:34] Yo? [13:35] Is somebody here or everybody sleepig again? :D [13:35] !patience [13:35] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/ [13:36] xalyy: we established your server is running [13:36] I searched like 1 day without any luck, thats why I moved to here [13:37] Thanks [13:37] But if the server is running then why the web interface not loads? [13:37] I don't know what I done wrong... I configured the network and this was a fresh install nothing modified [13:38] Same problem with my dedicated not working there too [13:40] xalyy_: you are running proxmox inside a vm? [13:40] Yes [13:41] First I trying to test it on my computer on virtualbox [13:41] Then move it to dedicated [13:41] But it's not even work in my PC [13:41] well I would kind of expect some issues running it nested [13:41] however I would expect the web UI to work [13:42] can you get to the web UI from inside the guest itself? [13:42] How?? [13:42] It don't have Desktop enviroment [13:42] does the guest operating system have a GUI? [13:42] ok, how about lynx or something [13:42] Lynx? [13:43] sudo apt-get install lynx [13:43] Text-mode browser [13:43] Okay [13:43] then lynx localhost:8006 or whever it is [13:43] Okay! I try it ty [13:44] not expecting it to work well, but it should be enough to recognise whether it is working at all [13:45] http://gyazo.com/4d0d231e12c41a44c661f415acd6d203.png :( [13:45] is that from inside the vm or outside? [13:45] oh, inside [13:46] Inside [13:46] ok, so forget about port mapping for a bit, until you get it serving locally [13:47] Try http://localhost:8006 [13:47] its not ssl? [13:47] that isn't right anyway, why is it trying to resolve the IP address? [13:47] Yes... maybe that also counts [13:47] so https://localhost:8006 [13:47] Tried localhost first then 192.168. [13:48] what ip does the vm have? [13:48] note that it will not be the same ip as your host [13:48] Umm local ip? [13:48] ifconfig inside the vm will tell you [13:48] with bridged the vm gets an ip address like any other host [13:48] not the same as your host [13:48] so you may just be using the wrong ip [13:48] How can I scroll up? [13:48] on virtualbox :D [13:49] ifconfig|less [13:49] page up? [13:49] ip addr | grep 192 [13:49] probbaly 192.168.1.102 ☻ [13:50] 127.0.0.1?? [13:50] thats localhost on interface lo [13:50] http://gyazo.com/3c26517b8021025feb075821731aef16.png [13:50] * AlanBell doesn't think there is an active network card in the guest [13:50] what about interface eth0 ? [13:50] directhex: but I want a valve code, my key is I AMDI RECT HEX ;) [13:50] http://gyazo.com/a6259dd025f285d39c2d05ecc82bb6be.png [13:51] these cropped screenshots annoy me ☻ [13:51] Sorry :D [13:51] so no ip on eth0 [13:52] what OS is the guest? [13:53] Proxmox 3.1 VE [13:53] no, in the VM, not on the host [13:54] penguin42: that is running nested in the guest [13:54] ooohhhh - nested is fun [13:54] what host? [13:54] loll [13:54] which is . . . going to hurt, but the web UI should work [13:54] wat [13:54] waittt [13:54] this sounds odd, i dont understand what on earth is going on here [13:54] guys u think i meant that there is a vm under my dedi? [13:55] this is a remote machine with virtualbox instaled on it? [13:55] and proxmox as the guest? [13:55] xalyy_: You need to go back a step; put a webpage together that shows what your setup is - completely so we can understand [13:55] OK wait [13:55] or local desktop with virtualbox with proxmox inside it? [13:55] turtles all the way down [13:56] xalyy_: explain the setup [13:56] the guest isn't getting an IP address, so you think that is set up with a bridged networking card, and your router is capable of assigning an extra DHCP address? [13:58] Sec [13:59] http://i.imgbox.com/DNNIsAtM.png [14:00] Uuuuurgh, host OS is Windows :P [14:01] that diagram doesn't help [14:01] so, where is Ubuntu in all this? [14:02] explain it... [14:02] "i have a blah running blah and in that there's blah running blah" [14:02] * awilkins bobs off to get some food [14:02] Proxmox uses integrated debain what are you guys talking? :D [14:02] Both of the machines running on debian [14:03] so you have a windows host with some debian derivative that isn't Ubuntu as a guest [14:03] and another cloud server that isn't running Ubuntu [14:03] xalyy_: Sorry, you really need to draw it out - what exactly are you running [14:04] I am running windows on the windows I am running a Virtualmachine under Oracle VM, my dedicated is located somewhere in the US my dedicated not belongs to my personal computer, my dedicated runs under debian [14:04] good? :P [14:04] so, why do you think we can help with that? [14:04] Why not? [14:04] but how is your dedicated related to your virtualbox mess? [14:05] I said first Im testing proxmox on the oracle vm then I want to move on my dedicated and fix everything like on my comp [14:05] * SuperEngineer gets ready to type !-t-o-p-i-c :D [14:05] Because the two machine have the same problem [14:05] SuperEngineer: Well to be fair we rarely are on topic in here [14:05] double lol [14:06] SuperEngineer: Indeed being on topic might be off topic [14:06] triple lol [14:07] Now do you understand the setup? :D [14:07] I do. I think. [14:07] xalyy_: Look, you're just learning this stuff - you need to start simpler; and nesting VMs is not a good way to start learning [14:07] But I never use VirtualBox on Windows so can't help with that. [14:07] xalyy_: so, for the virtualbox thing, you need to arrange for the guest to get an IP address, I have no idea if you are being blocked by a windows firewall setup or if the proxmox networking doesn't like the virtualbox card or something else [14:07] he's not nesting VMs penguin42, why do you think he is? [14:07] popey: proxmox is virtualisation software [14:08] right, but he hasn't got that far yet [14:08] What is nesting? [14:08] with a web gui, which should run, even if it doesn't let you start VMs [14:08] exactly [14:08] Yeah [14:08] xalyy_: running VMs within VMs is nesting [14:08] sounds just like the vm doesn't have an ip yet [14:08] ah, so he's just trying to run the management stuff in the windows virtualbox? [14:08] that he can point to [14:08] Ohh [14:08] popey: But where are the VMs? [14:08] they dont exist yet, clearly [14:08] Yess [14:09] given he can't get to the admin console [14:09] I am trying to setup proxmox on the oracle vm [14:09] popey: Ohhhh [14:10] * popey sleeps [14:10] popey: Just looky you weren't pulled into a floridian sinkhole [14:10] so, problem 1, your debian thing in virtualbox needs to be on your local network [14:10] and it isn't right now [14:10] Ok! [14:10] How to fix it belly :D [14:11] sudo dhclient might give you a clue [14:11] Wait first how do I exit under |less [14:11] ifconfig |less [14:11] q [14:12] Thanks [14:12] I think perhaps you are running before walking here [14:12] * penguin42 agrees [14:12] Umm [14:12] dhclient not done anything [14:13] RTNETLINL asnwers: File exists! [14:13] Lol you dont say [14:14] that usually means a route already exists [14:14] Ohh [14:14] doesn't hurt [14:14] Great :D Next command? [14:16] WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW [14:16] GUYS what happened?? [14:16] Its just works now... [14:16] But how is this possible? dhclient done the magic or which command? [14:17] AlanBell's telepathy probably [14:17] :DD [14:17] Seriously I have to know exactly, because I have to fix the dedicated too :P [14:19] xalyy_: If you manually ran dhclient that would do it, but that suggests that you just needed to configure proxmox to run dhclient [14:19] So you mean proxmox is not starting dhclient properly? [14:19] By the way what is dhclient [14:20] xalyy_: dhclient is the thing that sends and receives dhcp requests on the network; [14:21] xalyy_: You need to go and learn some basic networking/linux admin stuff I think before trying to debug this much! [14:22] But I doesn't even know why I have to debug, I mean I watched 5 video tutroials where the guys installs the proxmox on a VM or VPS or Dedicated but they got it working right away after installed [14:22] the dedicated serer has got an IP address, or you wouldn't be connecting to it [14:22] I can connect to the dedicated server without the dedicated connecting to the internet :D [14:23] ok, serial port debugging or is it really virtualised? [14:23] Umm? [14:23] huh, that virtual KVM window . . . [14:23] Yes [14:23] Drac [14:23] your dedi is running under a KVM host? [14:24] Running under Drac [14:24] I heard its a small computer on the dedi [14:24] It has other ip [14:24] Then the dedi [14:24] /o\ [14:24] Is it a bell? :D [14:25] On the dedicated dhclient did not worked still not loads the :8006 website gui I think I have to reinstall everything... [14:25] What you say? [14:25] Do I reiinstall proxmox os completly? [14:26] I have no further opinion on the matter :) [14:26] Ok I reinstall it, I have time :D [14:27] Do you have idea why the VM is so slow? I mean the virtual media session [14:27] It uploading really slow [14:27] Can you copy a virtualbox machine from one computer to another, or do configuration options get messed up when you do [14:28] DJones: yes, and maybe [14:28] but it is fixable [14:28] Problem is [14:28] or you copy the config options too [14:28] Dedicated does not have DHCP so I have to manually config the network files... :S [14:28] So it would be double messy [14:29] Can hostname be anything on the dedicated? [14:29] Or does it counts? [14:29] AlanBell: Thanks, I've got two Windows installs and was planning on copying both folders including all files & subdirectories, its got .vbox & .vdi file, along with a Logs folder [14:31] xalyy_: you really need to ask your host what your network settings should be. we simply can't guess them [14:31] I'm expecting some issues because they're both Windows installs, XP & Win 7 [14:31] DJones: look in .virtualbox too [14:31] .Virtualbox even [14:31] gah ~/.VirtualBox [14:31] AlanBell: Thanks for heads up [14:32] VirtualBox.xml in there is the config settings mostly [14:32] shauno: but is there a way to guess my dedicated hostname from the dedicated ip or something? [14:33] xalyy_: really, you need to ask your ISP about this, you are not running Ubuntu and we are not your ISP :) [14:33] What? [14:33] My dedicated not running ubuntu? [14:33] I can't change my answer just because it's not the one you wanted, I'm afraid [14:33] What are you talking about :D [14:34] I mean debian is not similiar to ubuntu? [14:35] it is not Ubuntu, no [14:41] Thanks for the help guys for all this :D [14:57] Something not good... Cmon.. I can't beleive this, I rebooted the oracle vm and now the web ui not working again [14:57] Typed dhclient several times but not helps [14:57] what is this?! [15:04] hi guys [15:40] hey everyone [15:41] small question : I have a 24 inch imac with a Core2Duo processor [15:41] what version of Ubuntu do i choose : The PC , the 64bit PC or the 64bit MAC version ? [15:42] I'd go with 64bit mac [15:43] BigRedS: ok Thats the one i'm downloading. [15:43] funny that there is no 64bit MAC version of Xubuntu to download [15:43] I'll just punch XFCE on there after install i guess [15:45] I was thinking about putting elementary on there (because it looks realy good) but ... i wasn't sure what version of 12.04 its based on [15:45] the 64 bit or the MAC64 bit [15:45] How can I check the network is working fine to stream the proxmox web gui? On dedicated server === webpigeon_ is now known as webpigeon [16:16] xalyy_ what do you mean? Where is the web gui supposed to be? [16:16] you may have more luck in a more proxmox-focussed channel [16:16] mydedicatedip:8006 [16:16] okay, so is it firewalled off? [16:17] can you connect to that at all? [16:17] you say you want to " check the network is working fine"; what makes you think it isn't? [16:19] Idk [16:19] On my comp it working fine on my oracle vm [16:20] But the dedi's proxmox gui not workig [16:31] xalyy_: can you at least ping it? [16:31] Yes lol [16:31] You meant my Dedis ip? [16:31] so you don't have a network problem [16:32] Yes I can ping my dedi's ip [16:32] from my comp [16:33] ok, but you are getting no response from the web server port? [16:33] can the server connect to itself on that port? [16:33] so lynx localhost:8006 [16:33] Type that command on my dedi? [16:34] yeah, is it serving anything for you to connect to? [16:35] Alert! [16:35] Unexpected network read error [16:37] try lynx localhost:1234 [16:37] just to compare error messages [16:38] Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. would be the error I would expect [16:39] however you are not running Ubuntu so it might be different (which is why you should be going to an appropriate place for proxmox support) [16:39] Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. [16:42] ok, so that is the error message when connecting to a port with nothing happening on it [16:42] so the thing you are expecting to be running on 8006 isn't, so you need to go solve that problem [16:43]