[00:00] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I see only this: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Ea9il8FgPA1evkvNIO-sh-GnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: the only package in that ppa is geary
[00:01] <hitsujiTMO> newb: esc to get back to the menu. make sure the ubuntu 13.10 entry is highlighted and press 'e'
[00:01] <MR_Wazzap11> Hmm... Then this website is telling me faulty info... Do you have any other managers you'd recommend instead?
[00:02] <s332> hello! i'm trying to use NTFS external drive attached to ubuntu running openssh-server as a file share that certain devices, and only those devices, can access from my LAN and from internet (e.g., play music, movie) but if i mount NTFS drive as root from host, mode is 777 and i can't change it from host. can i accomplish SSH file share of specific folders on NTFS external drive accessible by other ubuntu, mac, mobile devices? thanks!!
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: looks like its not a ppa you should be using """Packages for testing purposes ONLY."""
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: xcompmgr is in the normal repo
[00:03] <MR_Wazzap11> The website said the author "Sergey Davidoff" Shared his PPA the one was told to use :/
[00:04] <MR_Wazzap11> Also xcompmgr is a CLI manager, would it be easy enough for a relative noob to figure out?
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: hes using it for testing. its not a stable repo. its volatile
[00:04] <newb> hitsujiTMO: still nothing about splash: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ZJVSElD8y4VNHrDOWsC5vuGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: you need to call it from ~/.xprofile or the lubuntu startup file
[00:05] <MR_Wazzap11> I got it from: lubuntublog.blogspot.ca/2011/12/cairo-composite-manager.html
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> newb after ro
[00:05] <s332> i've read a number of askubuntu pages but haven't fully solved my problem: share some folders on host's NTFS ext drive through SSH to remote mac, ubuntu, mobile devices (with user accounts on host)
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: thats someones personal blog
[00:06] <MR_Wazzap11> How would I go about doing that hitsujiTMO  I'm used to Windows and I'm trying to get into GNU/Linux and its many Distros
[00:06] <SpudDogg> s332: you have an external drive connected?  is it mounted?  have you shared it either with NFS or samba?
[00:07] <jhutchins> !sshfs
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: or at least they are treating it like that
[00:08] <MR_Wazzap11> It sais the package is only for 11.10 and lower, I dug into the comments a little more, I'm on 13.10 so It wont work
[00:08] <s332> SpudDogg: NTFS ext connected to host, currently manually mounted by root to allow remote access, but manual mount by root used mode 777. i'm not familiar with NFS and samba is unencrypted connection.
[00:08] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: edit (or create the file if it doesnt exist) ~/.xprofile and add: xcompmgr &
[00:09] <MR_Wazzap11> OS doesnt even have Gedit yet... getting now
[00:10] <newb> hitsujiTMO: like this? https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/r3OWnz0_-MMDiK4W6EbhP-GnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[00:10] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: dont forgwet to run first: sudo apt-get install xcompmgr
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> newb should be on the same line
[00:11] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I sure do hope I am close to using the internet...
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> newb is it wordwrapping?
[00:11] <s332> jhutchins: thanks. i'm not sure what SSHFS offers that i can't already do. i do nautilus > File > Connect to Server and login as host_user1 and i can see my entire / on host
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> newb: hit f10 when you're happy to continue
[00:11] <newb> hitsujiTMO: It is not wrapping. I have fixed it. Now what?
[00:12] <MR_Wazzap11> Ok I've added "xcompmgr &" to the ~/.xprofile (which I had to create) after installing xcompmgr
[00:12] <newb> hitsujiTMO: ok... now what? I have command line.
[00:12] <MR_Wazzap11> Now what is the next step?
[00:13] <hitsujiTMO> newb: you've logged in and all?
[00:13] <newb> hitsujiTMO: yes
[00:14] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Now what?
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> newb: great: sudo sed -i 's/GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=".*"/GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset"/' /etc/default/grub
[00:15] <MR_Wazzap11> hitsujiTMO, Ok I've added "xcompmgr &" to the ~/.xprofile (which I had to create) after installing xcompmgr, What is the next step?
[00:16] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: relog and see if it works
[00:16] <MR_Wazzap11> Ok, I'll be right back, Thank you very much for the help so far hitsujiTMO
[00:18] <newb> hitsujiTMO: It prompted me for my password, I entered it, now what?
[00:19] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Are we getting close? I am running out of steam.
[00:19] <MR_Wazzap11> hitsujiTMO, It worked!
[00:20] <pi1> test ?
[00:20] <MR_Wazzap11> hitsujiTMO,  It worked! Now one last thing, do you know how to get rid of the default taskbar?
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ok. you have a base install to work with. lets get the network driver running now: once again copy the driver and the build.tar.gz to the other usb and we'll get that installed again
[00:22] <pi1> What is the name that I put after exec command in .xinit file to login to Vanilla Ubuntu ?
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: that i'm not sure. i instal openbox, et al. from the bottom up so not sure what component that is and if its easily removeable
[00:22] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Can you estimate how much longer this is going to take? At 11:00am this morning, I had no idea I'd be here at 7:22pm.
[00:23] <presonic> having trouble ./configure 'ing wine, i've installed packages as it has asks but the latest compile requirement I cant seem to find the devel files for.   It's asking for "32-bit development packages of Xlib/Xfree86", i can't find what its asking for using apt-cache.
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> newb: still a good bit to do. you need to install the drivers, xorg , lightdm, and then install cgminer, then setup autologin and config
[00:23] <lpsmith> how big is inotify event queue?
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> newb: maybe take a break til tomorrow?
[00:24] <MR_Wazzap11> Ok well thank you very much for your help hitsujiTMO  I really appreciate it, would this be the appropriate chat to return to if I ever run into more problems I cant figure out? Or is there one specific for Lubuntu I should use?
[00:24] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I can persist. An ETA will help motivate me.
[00:24] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: this is appropriate, but there is also #lubuntu
[00:25] <pi1> hey, guys, What is the name that I put after exec command in .xinitrc file to login to Vanilla Ubuntu ?
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO> newb: not sure of an eta. think we should get the network up and running then call it a day from there.
[00:25] <MR_Wazzap11> hitsujiTMO,  Ok and to add that to xChat I would add a new network and put that in? Cause I tried to and it didnt find the room but I just did ./join #lubuntu and it joined...
[00:26] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: dont add a network. add an autojoin channel
[00:26] <lpsmith> ahh,  cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_queued_events
[00:27] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Okay, the 8gb usb has the driver and tar.gz.
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> newb: mount again: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt; cp /mnt/build.tar.gz .; cp r8168*.tar.bz2 .
[00:30] <newb> hitsujiTMO: is it definitely sdb1?
[00:30] <MR_Wazzap11> hitsujiTMO, I figured out the problem... There is obviously  no "newserver/6667"
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> newb: thats an educated guess ... lsblk to try and figure out the right one
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: :)
[00:31] <pi1> Just want to check If you guys can see my chat :-/
[00:31] <pi1> or I have to identify inorder to post
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> pil no we can't
[00:32] <newb> the tar.gz is on sdb3
[00:32] <pi1> ok
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> :P
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> pil just be patient
[00:32] <newb> hitsujiTMO: correction... sda3
[00:32] <MR_Wazzap11> Once again Thank you very much hitsujiTMO
[00:32] <turtlerain> How can I find the size of my swap file? Im using crouton xfce4
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> newb: sda3 ... sounds like the installed copy
[00:33] <pi1> aha, I was just confused  :-p
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> MR_Wazzap11: np
[00:33] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Isn't the installed copy on the 64gb?
[00:33] <Daghdha> Hi. I was asked if i wanted to update to 13.xx ubuntu and i said yes. Then it stalled in the font-liberation part. It stalled for 15 ins on that step. SO i shot down the upgrade tool and rebooted, hoping it would come ask me again about upgrading. But it don't ask me. It also complains about system programs not functioning. Is there a panic button i can press to fix  it? Manually rerun upgrade?
[00:33] <Daghdha> anything?
[00:34] <turtlerain> How can I find the size of my swap file?
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> newb: mount again: sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt; cp /mnt/build.tar.gz .; cp r8168*.tar.bz2 .
[00:34] <rww> turtlerain: free -m, look at bottom line
[00:34] <turtlerain> i type free -m in the terminal?
[00:34] <rww> yes
[00:35] <turtlerain> how do i lower the total amount of swap available?
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> turtlerain: resize down the partition
[00:35] <rww> turtlerain: what's your end goal with that?
[00:35] <turtlerain> need more space'
[00:36] <turtlerain> using a 16gb ssd in my chromebook
[00:36] <rww> boot from a LiveCD with gparted on it, resize swap partition down, resize an adjacent partition up
[00:36] <newb> hitsujiTMO: here is the lsblk output https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/HPqSVTfkWlZjwUmu9gEJveGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[00:37] <turtlerain> ._.
[00:37] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Does that look right?
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> newb: defo sdb1 then: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt; cp /mnt/build.tar.gz .; cp r8168*.tar.bz2 .
[00:37] <s332> any idea why i can't modify folder/file permissions on a host's NTFS external drive from either the host or remotely?  "mode of `/media/share/' changed from 0777 (rwxrwxrwx) to 0770 (rwxrwx---)" but ls -al returns: "drwxrwxrwx  1 root root 49152 Feb  7 18:44 share"
[00:38] <agent_wh1te> Is there a way to trace a function call? As in, I wanna see what all happens when I type "pwd" in a terminal.
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> s332: ntfs doesn't support linux file permissions
[00:38] <s332> agent_wh1te: is there something like pwd +x???
[00:39] <s332> or pwd -x???
[00:39] <agent_wh1te> s332: Nope! That's invalid...
[00:40] <agent_wh1te> I would like to see the POSIX functions being called, etc.
[00:42] <SuperLag> Anyone experiencing issues with Flash videos being really quiet, compared to playing audio outside the browser?
[00:43] <agent_wh1te> s332: I believe I found it... for pwd: `strace -c pwd`
[00:44] <agent_wh1te> Cool beans!
[00:44] <agent_wh1te> Though not cold, noone like COLD beans.
[00:44] <newb> hitsujiTMO: cannot stack: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/9O3_ds0P0X63mRUAtY_AyuGnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[00:44] <newb> hitsujiTMO: stat
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> newb cp r8168<hit tab> .
[00:46] <s332> agent_wh1te: here is how to trace your scripts using "set -x ... set +x" (http://linuxcommand.org/wss0100.php#watching_your_script_run)
[00:46] <agent_wh1te> Daghdha" You may need to boot a live cd, chroot into the partition with linux, and run `sudo dpkg --configure -a`
[00:46] <newb> hitsujiTMO: no such file or directory
[00:47] <zykotick9> s332: scripts are different from executable programs...
[00:47] <s332> but perhaps that's a different trace you weren't looking for :/
[00:47] <agent_wh1te> WHOA
[00:48] <agent_wh1te> s332/zykotick9: So `strace -c` will give me the syscalls being made... but `set` shows the code being executed?
[00:48] <agent_wh1te> First time I've ever even seen/tried this `set` command.
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> newb: is the r8168 driver not on the usb?
[00:49]  * agent_wh1te puts on his trunks and dive into the man pages
[00:49] <newb> I put it there... is there a way to check?
[00:49] <Yash_> Hi...can anyone help me setup display variable from terminal? im using putty
[00:49] <hitsujiTMO> newb: ls /mnt/
[00:49] <newb> hitsujiTMO: The file I dragged to the usb is r8168-8.037.00.tar
[00:50] <s332> hitsujiTMO: if NTFS doesn't support linux file permissions, then to prevent access to certain folders on NTFS drive, i should either a) remove folders or b) encrypt folders?
[00:50] <hitsujiTMO> newb: bah i gave you the wrong cmd
[00:50] <crankharder> I'm seeing this issue where ~/.xsession-errors is becoming a huge file.. I've seen it get up to 90G fill up all avaiable space and break everything
[00:50] <hitsujiTMO> newb cp /mnt/r8168<hit tab> .
[00:50] <Yash_> can anyone help me get a gui by setting display variable?
[00:50] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I did the ls /mnt and only saw the build file.
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> newb: damn. cp it on
[00:51] <spearhead> Yash_, what are you trying to do?
[00:51] <spearhead> Yash_, are you trying to run a program on the remote computer but have it display on your local machine?
[00:52] <anonymous__> i use backbox on VBox, NAT network. I use SET and take access IP backbox with windows 7, but it's not work...
[00:52] <Yash_> spearhead , I am having my project on an access server which is connected from windows using putty
[00:53] <hitsujiTMO> s332: check the mount options for a suitable fix http://linux.die.net/man/8/mount.ntfs-3g
[00:53] <newb> hitsujiTMO: should the tab key produce text that begins 8.0...etc.?
[00:53] <hitsujiTMO> anonymous__: whats backbox?
[00:54] <Yash_> spearhead, since i do not get a gui on access server,,,i only get a terminal...it becomes very difficult to write code using Vi or nano editor
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> newb: yup, and end with .tar.bz2
[00:54] <anonymous__> linux backbox...
[00:54] <newb> hitsujiTMO: ok, it accepted the command. no output.
[00:54] <newb> now?
[00:55] <hitsujiTMO> anonymous__: is that a distro?
[00:55] <anonymous__> yes..... I use it on Virtual Box,,
[00:55] <agent_wh1te> hitsujiTMO: Pen-testing Ubuntu-based distro
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> anon_master: its not supportesd here. try the distros support
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> anonymous__: ^
[00:56] <adam_> stuck - after grub stuck at busybox initramfs prompt... booting to a previous kernel version I'm fine... please help
[00:56] <anon_master> linux backbox seems to be a good security solution I gotta test it me 2  ...
[00:57] <hitsujiTMO> newb: mkdir debs; mv build.tar.gz debs; cd debs; tar xf build.tar.gz
[00:57] <hitsujiTMO> anon_master: sorry for the wrong ping :P
[00:57] <anon_master> thats cool :P
[00:59] <anonymous__> how about Kali Linux??? are it good a distro?
[00:59] <hitsujiTMO> !kali | anonymous__
[01:00] <anon_master> Im actually trying the anonymousOS in vbox and I can say that it has some cool tools for testing security ;P
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> anon_master:  anonymousOS contains malware
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> anon_master: its not something you should be running
[01:00] <agent_wh1te> Thank gawd he's in vbox! ;D
[01:01] <anon_master> lol indeed
[01:01] <anon_master> but I heard that they were rumors but no proof :P
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> anon_master: its has nothing what so ever to do with anonymous
[01:01] <agent_wh1te> anon_master: No, there's proof hahah.
[01:01] <anon_master> if you say so
[01:02] <anon_master> do you have a link?
[01:02] <agent_wh1te> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401638,00.asp
[01:02] <anon_master> thnx
[01:03] <agent_wh1te> PC mag so it's watered down... but just google "anonymous OS malware" and you'll get the picture ;)
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> anon_master: also http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/03/lame-hacker-tool-or-trojan-delivery-device-hands-on-with-anonymous-os/
[01:03] <newb> hitsujiTMO: output is: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ifk_nDTx6M0GcV1_QMXyG-GnhHo0s5jL895CZbFMQ0U?feat=directlink
[01:03] <k1l> and that is one of the reasons its not supported by ubuntu or in here
[01:03] <anon_master> I can see that it seems to be pretty serious ...
[01:04] <hitsujiTMO> newb: you missed a '.': tar xf build.tar.gz
[01:04] <hitsujiTMO> newb: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[01:05] <anon_master> hopefully my anonymous os runs in vbox and my real system is linux and not windows other wise it could be a catastropy ...
[01:06] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Yes I did and now it worked. Next?
[01:07] <hitsujiTMO> cd ..
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> newb: sorry. cd ~; mkdir driver; mv r8168* driver; cd driver; tar xf r8168*
[01:09] <anon_master> I gotta go see ya folks
[01:12] <newb> hitsujiTMO: next?
[01:12] <[Ethos]> how do I duel boot windows 8 & ubuntu?  (If its possible.)
[01:13] <daftykins> !dualboot
[01:13] <hitsujiTMO> newb: cd r8168-8.037.00; sudo ./autorun.sh
[01:16] <newb> hitsujiTMO: completed. Next?
[01:16] <hitsujiTMO> newb: echo "auto lo" | sudo tee /etc/network/interfaces
[01:17] <hitsujiTMO> newb: echo "iface lo inet loopback" | sudo tee -a /etc/network/interfaces
[01:17] <hitsujiTMO> newb: echo "auto eth0" | sudo tee -a /etc/network/interfaces
[01:17] <hitsujiTMO> newb: echo "iface eth0 inet dhcp" | sudo tee -a /etc/network/interfaces
[01:18] <newb> hitsujiTMO: you're moving quickly! So, I am to type "echo "auto lo" | sudo tee /etc/network/interfaces", click enter, then do the other lines?
[01:18] <gfredericks> zykotick9: /run/user/<user>/gvfs
[01:18] <gfredericks> (FYI)
[01:18] <hitsujiTMO> newb: yup. those 4 lines
[01:19] <hitsujiTMO> newb: to confirm the entries: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[01:23] <newb> hitsujiTMO: next?
[01:24] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I see, I have to confirm. one moment.
[01:25] <newb> hitsujiTMO: confirmation output echoed all four statements
[01:26] <newb> hitsujiTMO: what is next?
[01:28] <hitsujiTMO_> newb: where you at?
[01:28] <hitsujiTMO_> newb: seems i timed out
[01:28] <newb> hitsujiTMO: confirmation echoed all four statements. I am asking what is next.
[01:28] <hitsujiTMO_> newb: ok. sudo service networking restart
[01:29] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I should type that as a command?
[01:29] <hitsujiTMO_> newb: yup
[01:29] <newb> hitsujiTMO: next?
[01:30] <hitsujiTMO_> newb: ping 8.8.8.8
[01:30] <newb> hitsujiTMO: network is unreachable.
[01:30] <hitsujiTMO_> newb: try rebooting
[01:32] <newb> hitsujiTMO: reboot has me at the black screen.
[01:33] <hitsujiTMO_> newb: feck forgot to run update grub.
[01:33] <hitsujiTMO_> newb nomodeset again
[01:34] <hitsujiTMO_> newb: get to the grub menu. e to edit. append nomodeset after ro. f10 to boot
[01:34] <slackerman> hey i am automating my deploy of software using capistrano. I created a new user deploy, and when it creates a new directory the dir needs to belong to the www-data group. How do I do that?
[01:35] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I see the grub prompt. what do I have to click to get the menu I want?
[01:35] <hitsujiTMO_> esc
[01:35] <born_to_code> hei yio folks!
[01:36] <msgol> newb right or enter
[01:36] <msgol> wait what grub menu on boot?
[01:37] <newb> hitsujiTMO:added nomodeset struck f`10 and am still at black screen
[01:38] <newb> hitsujiTMO: reboot?
[01:38] <born_to_code> the grub is used for multiple boot
[01:38] <hitsujiTMO_> newb: yup
[01:38] <born_to_code> the grub is actually used by the bios to know on witch system he has to boot
[01:38] <tpw_rules> so i'm having a weird problem wherein i can't hotplug usb device
[01:39] <born_to_code> hei hitsujiTMO is me anon_master, ive just changed my name...
[01:39] <newb> hitsujiTMO:apparently I didn't learn how to do it. i rebooted... still black screen
[01:40] <born_to_code> you remember that we were talking about the anon os ...
[01:40] <olividir> morning, is this the ubuntu help?
[01:40] <newb> nomodeset again?
[01:40] <msgol> morning i think so.
[01:40] <hitsujiTMO_> born_to_code: the os you shouldn't be using :P
[01:40] <olividir> "morning" it is after midnight :P
[01:40] <born_to_code> well the image that I have about   the anon os was no installation but only live boot option
[01:41] <newb> hitsujiTMO: should I reboot yet again and redo nomodeset?
[01:41] <born_to_code> so I dont see how that you ca get infected if you boot in live mode ...
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO_> newb: yup try again. you appended it after ro ?  and not on next line right?
[01:41] <newb> hitsujiTMO: correct. after ro then clicked f10 and it went to black screen
[01:42] <hitsujiTMO> newb: try it once more
[01:42] <olividir> I am having lots of problem installing printer driver, any help?
[01:42] <harris> what is the channel for open office
[01:42] <hitsujiTMO> born_to_code: its if you enter any personal info. plus theres mention of several trojans, so it can give others access to the vm
[01:42] <k1l> !alis | harris
[01:43] <hitsujiTMO> harris: #Openoffice.org
[01:43] <born_to_code> hitsujiTMO: well I used in a safe way + like I told you I only have the live mode boot :P
[01:43] <k1l> born_to_code: sure the data on the hdds could be infected. but that is more of a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:44] <newb> hitsujiTMO: i am struggling. as the ubuntu menu appears, I should click shift and left, no?
[01:44] <born_to_code> kll: I see ...
[01:44] <k1l> born_to_code: (since ubuntu is not involved in windows or anoymousOS)
[01:44] <hitsujiTMO> newb: on the menu. just hit e to edit the main ubuntu entry
 : if the trojans can change the vm access that i agree that is not safe
 I think tha t I will try Linux Kali for security testing instead
[01:47] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I click e, I add nomodeset following ro so it reads ro nomodeset, then I click f10. At that point, I get a black screen.
[01:47] <hitsujiTMO> newb: crap. not sure whats going on now then. ok. time for a break and we'll come back to it tomorrow
[01:47] <newb> hitsujiTMO: ugh
[01:48] <born_to_code> k1l: do you think that these anonymous os trojans can infect a linux system? or is it only the case for windows system?
[01:48] <hitsujiTMO> newb: leave it for 2 mins. maybe an issue with it try to bring up the network
[01:48] <yep> Okay guys i just installed ubuntu and the sreen is fuzzy
[01:48] <newb> hitsujiTMO: You don't think I should just do windows xp? I would have had that done by 2pm today.
[01:49] <newb> hitsujiTMO: leaving it for two minutes...
[01:49] <hitsujiTMO> newb: its your choice but xp is supported to be less stable. main issue for you right now is your network interface and the driver support for it being so awful
[01:49] <yep> I need some help getting it fixed so i dont have to go back to windows 8
[01:50] <k1l> born_to_code: that depends heavily on the sort of viruses. linux is no imune against viruses. but it uses some methods to reduce the risks.
[01:50] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I am disappointed to hear that. I sought after this setup specifically because I understood it was ideal.
[01:50] <newb> histujiTMO: Clearly, I didn't understand.
[01:50] <k1l> born_to_code: but again, this is offtopic in here. we go for technical ubuntu support in here and not for theoretical ifs
[01:51] <newb> hitsujiTMO: still black screen...
[01:51] <msgol>  testing
[01:51] <slackerman> hey i am automating my deploy of software using capistrano. I created a new user deploy, and when it creates a new directory the dir needs to belong to the www-data group. How do I do that?
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> newb: part of the issue with it is that some manufacturers may not supply the exact same harware with the same motherboard range. so others buying the exact same mobo may get a different network interface
[01:52] <born_to_code> k1l: allright thanks for the info.
[01:53] <newb> histujiTMO: I just rebooted again, and it appears to be working now.
[01:53] <adam_> cinnamon has crashed, fallback mode? - can anyone help me through this?
[01:53] <critt1> Any help with ubuntu 13.10 low graphics mode after upgrade? Tried to bring up console Term CTRL ALT F1. I get this error gives " invalid argument"
[01:53] <hitsujiTMO> newb: weird. very weird
[01:54] <newb> histujiTMO: the ubuntu gui screen is up and it says "waiting to configure network"
[01:54] <hitsujiTMO> newb: give it 2 mins. network config didn't take
[01:54] <newb> histujiTMO: waiting 60 more seconds....
[01:54] <msgol> critt1 what dose C A F2 say?
[01:55] <critt1> msgol didnt try that
[01:55] <msgol> please try
[01:55] <critt1> ok using windows to get in here. Be back ty
[01:55] <newb> histujiTMO: I am at command prompt now.
[01:55] <msgol> no problem :)
[01:56] <newb> hitsujiTMO: does server have a gui. or will this all be command line from here on out?
[01:56] <hitsujiTMO> newb: cat /sys/class/net
[01:56] <hitsujiTMO> newb: no gui. but you can add one
[01:57] <newb> hitsujiTMO: it's a directory
[01:57] <hitsujiTMO> newb: sorry, ls /sys/class/net
[01:57] <newb> hitsujiTMO: lo p9p1
[01:58] <hitsujiTMO> newb: weird: sudo ifconfig p9p1 up
[01:59] <Roland-> hello can i use ubuntu livecd to perform a baremetal backup of whole hard drive/
[01:59] <nightfly> yes
[01:59] <Roland-> question mark typo at end
[01:59] <hitsujiTMO> newb: sudo update-grub; sudo sed -i 's/eth0/p9p1/g' /etc/network/interfaces
[02:00] <Roland-> nightfly any recomended utility ?
[02:00] <nightfly> dd
[02:00] <hitsujiTMO> !dd | roland
[02:00] <hitsujiTMO> roland: use dd.
[02:00] <newb> hitsujiTMO: both of those lines?
[02:00] <k1l> !shelldd
[02:00] <born_to_code> do you guys know if there is any  tool for C# programming  in linux?
[02:00] <hitsujiTMO> newb:  yup
[02:01] <hitsujiTMO> born_to_code: mono
[02:01] <Roland-> hitsujiTMO does dd copy the boot sector also ?
[02:01] <spearhead> !info dd > hitsujiTMO
[02:01] <born_to_code> hitsujiTMO:  cool thanks!
[02:01] <hitsujiTMO> Roload: dd will copy what you want. so yes, everything if needed
[02:01] <newb> hitsujiTMO: it is p number 1 right?
[02:01] <newb> hitsujiTMO: not the letter l?
[02:02] <hitsujiTMO> newb number
[02:02] <msgol> welcome back was it the same?
[02:02] <critt1> msgol C A f2 does nothing at all.
[02:03] <msgol__> thats strange
[02:03] <critt1> No response at all
[02:03] <msgol__> C A F1 did it say KDFONTOP: Invalid Argument. or just Invalid Argument?
[02:03] <critt1> no console nothing
[02:04] <newb> hitsujiTMO: done. next?
[02:04] <critt1> Invalid Argument
[02:04] <hitsujiTMO> newb: sudo service networking restart
[02:04] <critt1> This is why I hate to upgrade
[02:05] <newb> hitsujiTMO: waiting...
[02:05] <msgol__> i thought it might be the font issue that i could help with this. is beyond anything i have ever heard of exprinced maybe google it and read on...
[02:06] <newb> hitsujiTMO: it seems to be waiting...
[02:06] <critt1> Ive tried gools nothing on 13.10. all older versions. Thats where I found CA f1
[02:07] <newb> hitsujiTMO: networking stop/waiting is all it says
[02:07] <msgol> i whould try the old version soloutions too
[02:08] <critt1> Upgrades I have always had probles losing eithr graphics sound or nothing is compatible with the programs and settings that customized.
[02:08] <hitsujiTMO> newb: damnit. the network interface is just being awkward. this is what i was fearing. at this point i'd have to suggest grabbing a network card or use xp
[02:08] <msgol> so you have no way of accessing bash?
[02:08] <newb> hitsujiTMO: do you think fedora would work?
[02:08] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I don't think xp can be booted from usb stick, can it?
[02:09] <hitsujiTMO> newb: driver issue so you'll run into the same problem with other distros most likely
[02:09] <FreewheelinFrank> anyone familiar with adding java runtime?
[02:09] <hitsujiTMO> newb it can afaik
[02:09] <hitsujiTMO> !java | FreewheelinFrank
[02:09] <critt1> msgol been using ubuntu for 5 years as a very novice user all the commands are pretty much greek. Without google I wouldnt have a clue what to to.
[02:10] <newb> hitsujiTMO: afaik? I have a cdrom that came with the motherboard. Would that help? I suppose only with xp...?
[02:10] <hitsujiTMO> newb: afaik = as far as i know
[02:10] <FreewheelinFrank> ubottu: Thanks have upgraded all but the developer kit
[02:10] <msgol> same moved on 10.04
[02:10] <FreewheelinFrank> ubottu: Ya
[02:11] <FreewheelinFrank> ubottu: Ya scoundrel, silicon-based life-forms have rights too!
[02:11] <critt1> I can't even get to a term to fix the problem
[02:12] <Mobildug> :)
[02:13] <FreewheelinFrank> ubottu: How can I access files on USB-connected HDD that is encrypted  in Snowleopard, from my old macbook pro?
[02:13] <FreewheelinFrank> ubottu: Ya
[02:13] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Do you always use the same nick?
[02:14] <advx_> Hi All, Good Morning, Have a great Sunday..
[02:14] <newb> hitsujiTMO: are you on tor? I thought earlier in the day whois said you were in pittsburg. Now paris...?
[02:15] <SchrodingersScat> newb: no, those people are marked with something similar to 'tor-sasl'
[02:15] <msgol> i feel like all who are in this channel are bots
[02:15] <msgol> am i the only human here? :D
[02:15] <advx_> N e one tried 14.04 already?
[02:15] <SchrodingersScat> msgol: maybe you are a bot
[02:15] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu+1 advx_
[02:15] <msgol> haha nah i dont think so
[02:15] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu+1 | advx_
[02:15] <hitsujiTMO> newb: same nick. thats the sever i'm connected yo not where i'm from
[02:16] <newb> I am definitely not a bot. I am a tired linux newb who just wants to mine a litecoin or two.
[02:16] <advx_> and Does n e one here have a Chromebox, is it worth it?
[02:16] <msgol> good luck bot
[02:16] <newb> I could use a long weekend in amsterdam after a day like today
[02:16] <hitsujiTMO> lol
[02:17] <newb> So not pittsburg... I was going to ask if there was any connection cmu
[02:17] <SchrodingersScat> msgol: watch some more bladerunner :)
[02:17] <lic_> anyone have tried steam OS????????
[02:17] <msgol> i dont get it.
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> advx_: thats an offtopic question, but a NUC would make more sense if you want to install ubuntu
[02:18] <msgol> blade runner?
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> lic_: #steamos
[02:18] <msgol> BOTS !!!
[02:18] <SchrodingersScat> msgol: you were calling everyone a bot :P
[02:18] <advx_> NUC?
[02:18] <msgol> yes
[02:19] <hitsujiTMO> advx_: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/overview.html
[02:19] <msgol> arent you a bot schrodingersScat
[02:19] <k1l> msgol: stick to technical ubuntu support in here please.
[02:19] <msgol> k
[02:19] <msgol> sorry k1l but there are bots here
[02:20] <advx_> thanks hitsujiTMO, is it available? how much is it?
[02:20] <newb> rebooting... brb
[02:21] <hitsujiTMO> advx_: yes, prices depends on country and model. check your local vendors
[02:21] <advx_> ok thanks, hitsuiTMO
[02:21] <advx_> hitsujiTMO
[02:21] <advx_> sry
[02:22] <Jezzz> ubuntu 12.04LTS, no internet, need to install g++.  Transferring .deb via flash drive.  Tried several versions, keep getting dependency not satisfiable in Ubuntu Software Center.  Any ideas?
[02:23] <Psil0Cybin> anyone here know about getting erp5 on ubuntu :P without using slop os?
[02:23] <Psil0Cybin> slapos?
[02:23] <gustav> Jezzz: Install deps.
[02:24] <advx_> can i upgrade my 13.04 32 bit to 64 bit?
[02:24] <ganden-pecah23> met pagi menjelang siang... maaf new be..
[02:24] <msgol__> ahh i dont think so.
[02:24] <Jezzz> gustav: software center doesn't show missing deps.  can I install .deb with dpkg -i <name>.deb?
[02:24] <k1l> advx_: no, just with reinstall
[02:24] <ganden-pecah23> apakah ada orang indo disini?
[02:24] <gustav> Jezzz: Yes.
[02:24] <advx_> ok
[02:25] <advx_> r there in significant performance improvements, I m havinge AMD Phenom 3
[02:25] <k1l> !id | ganden-pecah23
[02:26] <k1l> advx_: if your hardware can go with 64bit there is no reason to not go with 64bit.
[02:26] <msgol__> as k1l said also the issue of more than 3 ish GB ram
[02:27] <advx_> ok thanks.. for complete reinstall i would have to move a lot of things (very time consuming) ...will think of something
[02:27] <k1l> msgol__: ubuntu uses PAE as default. so ram is not a issue
[02:28] <msgol__> k1l really so its not like windows which you cant have more than 3 ish GB with 32 bit. thats awesome whats its limit on 32 no limit?
[02:29] <k1l> msgol: the theoretical limit of PAE is something about 4000TB Ram. but that depends heavily on the hardware
[02:31] <msgol__> thanks ! learned something new :)
[02:32] <jeffrey_f> msgol__: 32 bit system can only address 3GB RAM.  64 bit can address 16 exabytes of RAM, physically though, not sure how big the case would need to be to just fit the memory hardware
[02:34] <k1l> jeffrey_f: 32bit ubuntu uses PAE. so there is no 3GB limit
[02:35] <msgol> maybe its the physical limit. that somehow you can manage it with virtual adress or something like that. at this point im going into imagination mode :D
[02:36] <jeffrey_f> k1l: noted
[02:38] <twenty-three> hi guys, is there a way to find out whether an installed program is single or double precision? i installed it through synaptic and thus there was no way to select the precision but is there a way to tell?
[02:39] <timwis> Hey guys, I just ran a node.js script that accidentally deleted a directory. Is there a way to get it back?
[02:54] <jeffrey_f> timwis: what directory?
[02:55] <timwis> a coding project I'm working on
[02:56] <jeffrey_f> timwis: Unless you backed up, no.
[02:56] <MR_Wazzap11> Hello
[02:57] <MR_Wazzap11> Does anyone know of any OS that has the Unity Desktop and can run well on 512 MB RAM?
[02:59] <MR_Wazzap11> Anyone>
[02:59] <jeffrey_f> !xubuntu|MR_wassap11
[03:00] <MR_Wazzap11> But Xfce isnt Unity, I;m running lubuntu right now but it has the gnome desktop and I really like Unity
[03:00] <ka> knome_; hello can we talk
[03:01] <MR_Wazzap11> Does anyone know of a Unity Desktop? Like actual unity for 512 Mb RAM
[03:02] <Beldar> MR_Wazzap11, nothing here but ubuntu advice, and no 512 gig version of unity, probably no where else.
[03:03] <ka> ##computer-help-chat
[03:03] <advx_> 	bye 4 now, going for breakfast..
[03:03] <Beldar> ka, what is your goal here?
[03:03] <jeffrey_f> MR_Wazzap11:  It is the lightest weight version.  You may want to try Puppy Linux.  It works well on 128MB, 512MB should be a dream.  puppylinux.org/
[03:03] <ka> to talk with knome
[03:03] <MR_Wazzap11> ka I TOTALLY LIVE THERE!
[03:03] <Beldar> ka, knome?
[03:03] <ka> what
[03:04] <MR_Wazzap11> ##Computer-Help-Chat
[03:04] <MR_Wazzap11> Do you guys know if the earliest version of Ubuntu desktop with Unity would work on an IBM thinkpad with 1Gb RAM ?
[03:05] <k1l> MR_Wazzap11: give it a try. if it doesnt suit you you can try lubuntu-desktop
[03:05] <Beldar> MR_Wazzap11, 12.04 or any would run that is the min memory suggested.
[03:06] <jeffrey_f> MR_Wazzap11: are you on Ubuntu now?
[03:06] <MR_Wazzap11> I'm on Lubuntu 13.10 now but it is missing the Unity  desktop I'm so fond of
[03:09] <jeffrey_f> MR_Wazzup11:  The Thinkpad, like many other laptops, will use a portion of the memory for video......So 1GB of memory may leave you with ~768MB usable.
[03:09] <MR_Wazzap11> IS there any way to "install" Unity on Lubuntu?
[03:09] <k1l> MR_Wazzap11: install ubuntu-desktop
[03:10] <MR_Wazzap11> I did k1l  but it didnt put the Unity, only all the apps from Ubuntu
[03:11] <TheUnnamedDude> MR_Wazzap11, think you can choose what you want to use when logging in
[03:11] <k1l> MR_Wazzap11: choose ubuntu/unity on the login screen
[03:11] <MR_Wazzap11> I've rebooted and it stayed on this and logged in automatically :/
[03:12] <k1l> if you got autologin make a manual logout, then choose ubuntu
[03:15] <MR_Wazzap11> So yeah I tried to log in with the Ubuntu theme and now there is no desktop, only the background and the one shortcut I'd made prior
[03:16] <MR_Wazzap11> k1l:  I think it's broken
[03:16] <k1l> MR_Wazzap11: try guest account on the ubuntu session on loginscreen
[03:17] <MR_Wazzap11> k1l: Now I cant change it anymore, I'm not able to pick log off and when I reboot it logs in automatically
[03:19] <MR_Wazzap11> k1l: Do you know a keyboard shortcut to log off the system?
[03:19] <k1l> MR_Wazzap11: gnome-session-quit --no-prompt
[03:19] <MR_Wazzap11> Cant open terminal either
[03:19] <MR_Wazzap11> Got one open
[03:19] <k1l> ctrl+alt+t gives a terminal
[03:20] <MR_Wazzap11> Logging in with guest account under Ubuntu now
[03:21] <MR_Wazzap11> Woooow that's slow, trying to run Ubuntu 13.10 on 512Mb of RAM
[03:21] <neal7> hi all, any recommendations for remote desktop utility?  running Ubuntu 12.04 want to access from Win 7 and maybe Android.  tried Teamviewer, but it wont stay running
[03:22] <k1l> MR_Wazzap11: 512mb ram is really not much. i would consider going with lubuntu there
[03:23] <MR_Wazzap11> k1l: Yeah.... I was just hoping for something that at least looks like Unity, would you know how to move the taskbar and all that jazz over onto the left side and making it look like Unity?
[03:24] <k1l> MR_Wazzap11: i dont know. but you could use a dock and put it on the left, like awn or cairodock
[03:24] <MR_Wazzap11> Cause I've seen people do that, also I've seen Cairo Dock, I was using it earlier tonight but I couldnt get it static without hiding or interfering with the windows
[03:25] <msgol> lubuntu was xfce?
[03:25] <MR_Wazzap11> Lubuntu is Lxfe I think or something like that
[03:25] <rww> lxde
[03:25] <k1l> msgol: no, Xubuntu is Xfce
[03:25] <FuuqUmist> can you install cairo dock and docky without the privacy invasive Zeitgeist software?
[03:25] <msgol> ah thanks
[03:25] <MR_Wazzap11> We meant "Lubuntu"
[03:25] <rww> "privacy invasive" hehe
[03:25] <Stabic> anyone looking to invest 5,000$ into my business that would bring them $10,000 a month? pm me.
[03:25] <MR_Wazzap11> not "Xubuntu"
[03:26] <greeter> lubuntu i thought was lxde
[03:26] <msgol> PM sent ! :D
[03:26] <MR_Wazzap11> Legit that was a horrible scam pitch
[03:27] <Dbugger> What do you guys think of fail2ban? Is it a good program to protect your server?
[03:27] <MR_Wazzap11> Ok so my new plan is basically to wipe, reinstall  Lubuntu and find a way to move the default Dock over onto the left and make the Icons like Unity and see if there are any "mods" to make it act similar........... Great -_-
[03:28] <chovy> does streaming netflix work on ubuntu?
[03:28] <MR_Wazzap11> Should if you can install silverlight
[03:28] <k1l> chovy: i saw an blogpost on omgubuntu some time ago. so i think yes
[03:28] <chovy> k1l: seems like some hacky way using wine
[03:28] <chovy> so i guess no.
[03:29] <edu_nieto_medina> i want to install ubuntu alongside windows 8, does anyone know how to do that
[03:30] <k1l> chovy: yes it works, with pipelight
[03:30] <msgol__> here is a question worth asking here from members i think. did anyone manage to force Grub to go 1920*1080 while its not in Framebuffer supported list?
[03:31] <edu_nieto_medina> ubuntu 13.10 does not recocnize windows 8 or its partitions..
[03:31] <MR_Wazzap11> Hey I'm reinstalling now, I have the option to enable LVM, For a computer with a small amount of RAM would this be a good idea?
[03:31] <edu_nieto_medina> anyone?
[03:31] <msgol__> or the hardware simply dose not support it and my best bet is next gen hardware?
[03:33] <T1960CT> Lubuntu officially installing... Again
[03:34] <msgol__> here is another one, say i have a folder with all my own bash scripts in it. like ~/mybashlearning/ how can i make terminal have its file as commands like i could call my sample.sh file from everywhere?
[03:34] <msgol__> instead of giving it its full path + ./
[03:34] <greeter> you'd add that folder to your path... unfortunately i don't know how to do that :-S
[03:35] <T1960CT> My guess is that you'd need to add it to the default working directory of the Terminal (I work with windows and to be able to use command like "timeout" or whatever the case may be it needs to be in "System32" where CMD checks for programs by default)
[03:36] <msgol__> thank you both! i guess i will search adding folder to path.
[03:36] <pietro10> Hi. On KDE, all GTK+ apps except firefox-trunk for some reason are not rendering fonts properly, even though gtk[23]-engines-oxygen is set. How do I fix this? Thanks.
[03:36] <greeter> you could put the scripts in /usr/bin or some other directory already in your path, but if you have a lot of scripts it gets inconvenient to go looking for them
[03:37] <jeffrey_f> msgol__: is this about the script that deleted stuff?
[03:37] <msgol> right, i was hoping to avoid /usr/bin :)
[03:37] <msgol> no jeffry that must have been someone else
[03:38] <k1l> msgol: ~/bin
[03:38] <msgol> ~/bin is already in the path?
[03:38] <k1l> yep
[03:38] <msgol> awesome!
[03:38] <k1l> gets loaded on every login
[03:38] <msgol> testing now
[03:38] <T1960CT> k1l: By saying ~/whatever its the equivalent of saying "./whatever" from Windows, Right?
[03:38] <myro> hey, question. do I get drivers for like video cards the same way I would get them for ljke windows?
[03:39] <k1l> T1960CT: ~/ stands for /home/user/
[03:39] <jeffrey_f> msgol__: yep, never mind:-[
[03:39] <k1l> myro: no. dont load them from some website use the video driver ubuntu ships in the ubuntu repo
[03:40] <T1960CT> k1l: Gotcha (Windows technician on my spare time so I'm really trying to get into GNU/Linux and its completely different world)
[03:40] <myro> kk. well I just installed it, is there anything I should use (new to Ubuntu)
[03:41] <msgol> k1l appriciate it. it wont work should i relog?
[03:41] <k1l> msgol: you need to relogin to take effect
[03:44] <myro> like what should I do first after installing
[03:44] <msgol> hehe yes! it works thanks alot!!
[03:44] <k1l> myro: what do you mean?
[03:45] <DrManhattan> what happened to the alternate install cd? it is now called alternate-amd64+mac?
[03:45] <myro> like is there anything I should be installing, stuff like that
[03:45] <Beldar> !mini
[03:46] <Beldar> DrManhattan^^^^^^
[03:46] <DrManhattan> !alternate
[03:46] <DrManhattan> Oh shit
[03:46] <k1l> myro: that depends on what you need :) just go ahead and use the OS and install from ubuntu repo as needed
[03:47] <jeffrey_f> myro: pretty much if all your hardware is working, you probably don't need drivers unless you find some glitches.  Things just work with Ubuntu.
[03:47] <Beldar> DrManhattan, I believe gthere is still q 12.04 alternate, and please do not swear.
[03:47] <DrManhattan> Beldar, the only thing I've found it ubuntu-12.04.3-alternate-amd64+mac.iso
[03:47] <DrManhattan> is
[03:47] <DrManhattan> and my apologies for the s word
[03:47] <zykotick9> myro: from terminal "lscpi | grep -i vga" what does it return?
[03:47] <k1l> DrManhattan: that is for mac-hardware
[03:47] <DrManhattan> Oh no!
[03:48] <DrManhattan> what am I supposed to do for a text install?
[03:48] <msgol_> msgol: you are me im you testing to see how i can make the yellow thing
[03:48] <DrManhattan> this is awful
[03:48] <zykotick9> DrManhattan: why do you want alternate?  use mini.
[03:48] <k1l> DrManhattan: iirc, the live cd got a boot parameter to act like the old alternate installer
[03:48] <DrManhattan> k1l, where can I find a manual to read about this?
[03:49] <SuperLag> Anyone experiencing issues with Flash videos being really quiet, compared to playing audio outside the browser?
[03:49] <T1960CT> Hey k1l Take a look at this and tell me what you think please, I'm looking for a way to emulate the Unity look, would I take this script and save it as a "batch file" ?
[03:50] <SuperLag> this is happening with Firefox or Chrome
[03:50] <nightfly> T1960CT: Wat?
[03:50] <fractal5> can I dd the ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso file directly to an usb stick and boot from it?
[03:50] <nightfly> fractal5: yes
[03:51] <T1960CT> http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=36272
[03:51] <A_MAN> fractal5:  use unetbootin or extract the iso
[03:51] <k1l> DrManhattan: maybe see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[03:51] <nightfly> dd works just fine for the ubuntu iso
[03:51] <fractal5> A_MAN, extract the iso? I can't dd it?
[03:51] <nightfly> yes you can
[03:51] <T1960CT> The top of the page has a script on it I think to mod the taskbar, I'm looking to make it like Unity
[03:52] <k1l> fractal5: dd is fine
[03:52] <A_MAN> what nightfly  said
[03:52] <fractal5> what does extract the iso mean?
[03:52] <fractal5> I'll just use dd, thanks
[03:53] <T1960CT> nightfly: Would you know what to do with the code? What I would do is take it, change out the usernames and other info for my computer specifically then save it as a shell executable? (I think  a .sc or something like that)
[03:53] <T1960CT> http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=36272
[03:54] <k1l> T1960CT: its not a batch file. its a config file. the location of that file i mentioned in there too
[03:55] <k1l> but i will leave now. bye
[03:55] <T1960CT> k1l: since you obviously know mountains more than I do, would it have an effect on Lubuntu? Would it make it look sort of like Unity?
[03:55] <Jebus> Hi Guys, I just installed ubuntu 12.04 onto my computer the top bar and all the windows that pop up are fuzzy how do I fix that
[03:56] <A_MAN> Jebus:  what happens when yu unity --replace ?
[03:56] <k1l> T1960CT: i expect it to look like the picture there
[03:57] <T1960CT> Ok, since you're leaving I wont ask you to teach me how to use it but thanks for the info so far :)
[03:57] <Jebus> It won't let me pull anything up and when it does I cant see it because the pixels
[03:58] <A_MAN> Jebus:  just the panel ?
[03:59] <edu_nieto_medina> does anybody knows how to install ubuntu alongside windows with a brand new laptop?
[04:00] <Jebus> A_MAN, I am going to upload a few pictures
[04:00] <edu_nieto_medina> why isnt ubuntu recocnizing the windows 8 partitions
[04:01] <edu_nieto_medina> it kills windows 8 automatically
[04:01] <A_MAN> edu edu_nieto_medina  you have updateed grub right ?
[04:01] <A_MAN> edu_nieto_medina:  what was installed first ?
[04:02] <edu_nieto_medina> windows 8 pre-installed
[04:02] <A_MAN> edu_nieto_medina:  and you can only boot into Ubuntu ?
[04:02] <edu_nieto_medina> i put the ubuntu 13.10 burned on a cd
[04:02] <Beldar> !uefi | edu_nieto_medina
[04:04] <edu_nieto_medina> doesnt matter if i boot on uefi or bios mode... ubuntu wouldnt recocnize windows 8 partition
[04:04] <edu_nieto_medina> in the partition wizard it will only show "free space 750GB"
[04:05] <edu_nieto_medina> i will not show sd1, sd2, sd3, sd4
[04:05] <Beldar> edu_nieto_medina, depends on the vendors uefi version, check this thread for variables, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[04:05] <treehouse> dafuq? I suddenly got a blank console screen without a promt and not accepting any input? What's going on? What do I do? (ubuntu)
[04:06] <treehouse> the X program just.... idk.... wtf!? NO! NO!
[04:06] <Giant81> treehouse, did you try turning it off and back on again?  sorry couln't help myself.... if it's not taking imput I'd bet the only thing you can do is restart
[04:07] <A_MAN> edu_nieto_medina: but you can boot Ubuntu ?
[04:07] <treehouse> CTRL+ALT+F[] works.. but F7 that usually displays the desktop.. only shows a blinking underscore
[04:09] <SaSi69> anyone knows a parental control software on linux?
[04:09] <A_MAN> treehouse: what happens if you restart lightdm ?
[04:09] <A_MAN> like from tty[]
[04:11] <treehouse> how do you do that? ^^
[04:11] <Jebus> A_MAN, http://imgur.com/a/NTXpV
[04:11] <A_MAN> treehouse:  ctrl+alt+f1   then login then   "sudo service lightdm restart "
[04:11] <treehouse> trying.. thanks
[04:12] <jeffrey_f> SaSi69: what would be the result you are looking for?
[04:12] <A_MAN> Jebus:  did you check the md5sum ?
[04:12] <A_MAN> Jebus:  looks like a grapics card glitch
[04:13] <treehouse> A_MAN: thanks, it worked (i /etc/init.d/lightdm restart). But I assume that everything I was doing is lost?
[04:13] <A_MAN> treehouse:  yeah but that is it you are now back to a starting point.  I wish you would have told me that you had work to be saved
[04:14] <A_MAN> treehouse:  or maybe I missed that
[04:14] <Jebus> okay A_MAN thank you and no i didnt check the md5sum I am new to this kind of thing
[04:14] <jamesd> a_man fell out of a treehouse he almost died....
[04:14] <treehouse> A_MAN: it's ok, it was nothing important
[04:15] <A_MAN> that is cool Jebus  welocme to Ubuntu !
[04:15] <SaSi69> jeffrey_f: I would like to Block some of websites or domains and limit the internet surfing hours
[04:15] <A_MAN> Jebus:  I would check the graphics driver that is in use on the live iso also
[04:16] <Jebus> I am actually running it on another computer my friend installed it for me
[04:16] <jamesd> SaSi69: easiest way is to use squid  and either set proxy settings, or force with group policy or firewall rules
[04:16] <jeffrey_f> SaSi69: you can get DansGuardian from the software center.  It is a great webfilter.
[04:16] <Charcoalcat> Hi! My computer was frozen, so I pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and I think I used "unity --replace". Now some of my customizations are gone. So far I've noticed that my desktop button is missing from the launcher, the workspace icon is back on the launcher (I had workspaces completely disabled), the super button brings up the dash again, and the default program comes up when I press Print Screen instead of KSnapShot. Can I fix this, or do I have to do each of
[04:16] <A_MAN> Jebus:  maybe you can change it (add package to mem) and then get no grapics glitch
[04:16] <Charcoalcat> these customizations again? What happened?
[04:16] <daftykins> Charcoalcat: did you restart yet?
[04:17] <Charcoalcat> daftykins: Oh, yeah, a couple of times. I meant to add that.
[04:17] <SaSi69> ah ok thanks jamest and jeffrey
[04:17] <Jebus> A_MAN, what package would I add
[04:17] <daftykins> ok nm
[04:17] <jeffrey_f> SaSi69: as jamesd said, Sqid is part of the install if optional is checked
[04:17] <A_MAN> Jebus:  depends on what graphics card you have
[04:19] <Jebus> I have no clue what my graphics card is A_MAN all i know is that it has an intel core processor
[04:21] <A_MAN> Jebus:  what happens if you press ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[04:21] <rustuptwist> installed Ubuntu 12.04.03 Desktop AMD.iso on Dell desktop Optiplex 380 (win7) dual boot. the installer seems to freeze towards the end of the install. Doesnt give options to boot into Ubuntu at start-up window but when I go to re-install it asks if I want to erase existing ubuntu and re-install. Help...?
[04:22] <Charcoalcat> Okay it was "unity --replace". I've done this before without it removing customizations, but I used "DISPLAY=:0" and then "import DISPLAY" the other times. (just figured out how to look at command history.)
[04:23] <Jebus> My computer shutoff on me let me try it
[04:24] <Jebus> A_MAN, it pops up with a black login screen
[04:24] <A_MAN> Jebus:  login .. this is a live ISO correct ?
[04:25] <Jebus> A_MAN, I installed it via disk
[04:25] <A_MAN> Jebus:  sounds strange with the screenshot
[04:26] <hetro_> I'm trying to install a package for ubuntu 12.04: sudo apt-get install qtbase5-dev-tools
[04:26] <hetro_> but I get this error: Unable to locate package qtbase5-dev-tools
[04:27] <hetro_> Not sure what to do now...
[04:27] <Jebus> A_MAN, yeah I took it to best buy but they didn't help they kept trying to get me to go to windows 8
[04:28] <A_MAN> hetro_:  you are not looking for qt5-base   ?
[04:28] <hetro_> A_MAN, that might also do the trick, just try sudo apt-get install qt5-base?
[04:29] <A_MAN> hetro_:    apt-cache search  |grep  base
[04:29] <A_MAN> woops
[04:29] <A_MAN> hetro_:    apt-cache search  qt5 |grep  base
[04:29] <A_MAN> !qt5-base
[04:29] <Beldar> rustuptwist, You can download 12.04.4 try it.
[04:30] <hetro_> A_MAN, nothing comes up
[04:30] <A_MAN> hetro_:  what about     apt-cache search  qt | grep base
[04:30] <A_MAN> cache *
[04:30] <hetro_> ok a lot of stuff came up for: apt-cache search  qt | grep base
[04:31] <hetro_> but I'm not sure what to make of it
[04:31] <rustuptwist> Beldar:  you think the computer is not accepting that version of Ubuntu, that's all?
[04:32] <pietro10> Hi. On KDE, all GTK+ apps except firefox-trunk for some reason are not rendering fonts properly, even though gtk[23]-engines-oxygen is set. How do I fix this? Thanks.
[04:32] <A_MAN> hetro_:  what about qt5-default >? that is a nice mtapackage
[04:32] <rustuptwist> it is strange that the menu (grub?) doesnt appear to allow me to choose windows or Ubuntu
[04:32] <Beldar> rustuptwist, Hard to say, could be a incomplete/bad download, have you checked the sum?
[04:32] <hetro_> A_MAN, qt5-default: command not found
[04:33] <hetro_> A_MAN, is this package for another version of ubuntu, I have 12.04
[04:33] <hetro_> Maybe I should just update my ubuntu version to 13.10?
[04:33] <A_MAN> hetro_:  that is Qt5 default package for Ubuntu
[04:33] <Jebus> A_MAN, http://imgur.com/r148U4f here is what it shows up with
[04:33] <rustuptwist> Beldar:  the download is good as I have used it previously to install on three of my children's laptops
[04:34] <A_MAN> hetro_:  instead of installing via offline/online installer
[04:34] <A_MAN> hetro_:  and addding qmake version to toolkits and compilers of qtframework and qtcreator
[04:35] <Beldar> rustuptwist, This one install attempt?
[04:35] <A_MAN> Jebus:  login in .
[04:35] <rustuptwist> Beldar:  yeah the downloaded file i have used numerous times.
[04:35] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys after installing xubuntu i started off with a 500gb space, on my hd i now have 425gb, does that make sense after installing xubuntu/upgrading it and installing libreoffice?
[04:36] <A_MAN> !swap | Psil0Cybin
[04:36] <Jebus> A_MAN, would this work for 12.04 http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-10-10-fix-the-screen-messed-up-at-start-up-and-shutdown
[04:37] <A_MAN> I have no clue Jebus
[04:37] <Psil0Cybin> A_MAN: okay so swap takes up alot more space ontop of Ubuntu install
[04:37] <Psil0Cybin> is what you are saying?
[04:37] <Psil0Cybin> so 72 gbs for a standard ubuntu instal
[04:37] <Psil0Cybin> is normal right?
[04:37] <Psil0Cybin> xubuntu*
[04:37] <daftykins> no it most definitely isn't
[04:37] <A_MAN> Psil0Cybin:  no that is not a good swap space
[04:37] <Beldar> rustuptwist, So maybe another attempt try, be aware of if you tick update on install it is slower depending on your download speed. Problem here is could be any number of variables really.
[04:38] <A_MAN> Psil0Cybin:  what happens with gparted what does it show ?
[04:38] <hetro_> A_MAN, maybe I am missing a repository? So it cannot find the package?
[04:38] <A_MAN> hetro_:  you are on 12.04 ?
[04:38] <hetro_> A_MAN, yup
[04:39] <Psil0Cybin> A_MAN: i am checking now.
[04:39] <hetro_> A_MAN, should I update to 13.10? will that fix the problem?
[04:39] <Psil0Cybin> wht gparted says one second
[04:39] <rustuptwist> Beldar:  yeah i tried it twice if not 3x, definitely didnt click update as there was no internet available at the time. Strange. Its a computer here at school. Perhaps they have DeepFreeze installed or something...
[04:39] <Jebus> A_MAN, http://imgur.com/3HgKWSr
[04:40] <A_MAN> hetro_:  http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/create/get-the-sdk/
[04:40] <Jebus> A_MAN, I can get the screen fixed but afterwards the mouse won't click and when i shut it off and turn it back on it just mess up again
[04:41] <A_MAN> Jebus: not sure sorry someone else will know though
[04:41] <Psil0Cybin> A_MAN Gparted shows that i have 3 partitions:P /dev/sda1 (ext4) /dev/sda2 (extended) and under that is /dev/sda5 (UNKNOWN) with a "!!!" in red
[04:41] <A_MAN> Psil0Cybin:  Oo
[04:41] <Psil0Cybin> in my ext4 it says 10.52 GIB is used
[04:41] <A_MAN> Psil0Cybin:  you might want to fix that
[04:41] <Psil0Cybin> how do i fix that
[04:41] <Psil0Cybin> ...
[04:41] <Jebus> it is okay A_MAN thank you for helping me though
[04:41] <Psil0Cybin> i think that might be from a previous xubuntu install
[04:41] <Psil0Cybin> of the 32 bit one
[04:42] <A_MAN> sorry Jebus  stick around people will help
[04:42] <Psil0Cybin> A_MAN: can i just
[04:42] <Psil0Cybin> delete it?
[04:42] <Psil0Cybin> or what should i do?
[04:42] <A_MAN> Psil0Cybin:  screen shot ?
[04:42] <Psil0Cybin> yea one second
[04:43] <Jebus> Dont be sorry A_MAN
[04:44] <Psil0Cybin> A_MAN: http://i.imgur.com/SEsV4mS.png
[04:45] <hetro_> A_MAN, thanks I am installing the sdk now; hopefully that makes a difference
[04:45] <Psil0Cybin> A_MAN: http://i.imgur.com/SEsV4mS.png >> How could I remove that !! and UNKNOWN partition and perhaps just add an extra partition for a few files?
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> A_MAN: i just tried to remove it now , and it seemed to have not caused any problem..
[04:47] <Psil0Cybin> I do not think that is my swap as it has a !! beside it
[04:47] <A_MAN> Psil0Cybin:  facepalm
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> bad or good?
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> confused
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> oh
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> nvm
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> that was my swap..
[04:48] <Psil0Cybin> jeesus :P
[04:49] <msgol> :)
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> format time for me
[04:49] <Psil0Cybin> lol
[04:49] <A_MAN> Psil0Cybin:  lol
[04:50] <Psil0Cybin> if my swap was encrypted
[04:50] <Psil0Cybin> is there anyway i can recreate it now
[04:50] <Psil0Cybin> without formatting my system?
[04:50] <A_MAN> Psil0Cybin:  correct
[04:50] <Psil0Cybin> how would i do that?
[04:51] <msgol> ahh
[04:51] <Jebus> can anyone help fix this problem http://imgur.com/a/NTXpV
[04:51] <A_MAN> Psil0Cybin:  use gparted
[04:51] <Psil0Cybin> yea but
[04:52] <hetro_> A_MAN, I think that did the trick! Thanks a lot
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> it was an excrypted swap?
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> so how would i recreate that? sigh
[04:52] <A_MAN> Psil0Cybin:  read up on it . like making a swap partition
[04:52] <jamesd> Jebus: very cool and artist like....
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> well every guide i show people on here, they say i am doing it the wrong way
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> you perhaps suggest a propr guide
[04:52] <A_MAN> hetro_:  np happy hacking  hetro_  you can always use the Qt framework form the downloads area of qt also
[04:52] <Psil0Cybin> in creating an encrypted swap partition?
[04:53] <A_MAN> from *
[04:53] <msgol> you see swap is not like a partition that users whould use it stores virtual pages to my undrestanding. kinda like a virtual RAM on your HDD
[04:53] <msgol> you do not even need it but its highly recommended to have it.
[04:53] <msgol> just shrink a partition that you have its data backed up
[04:53] <Guddu> Please help. I executed a command incorrectly. Instead of saying mv * ../ i executed mv * ..
[04:54] <Guddu> And now the directory shows up as ..
[04:54] <Guddu> drwxrwxrwx   26 wm       wm             4096 Dec 16 12:21 ..
[04:54] <Guddu> What could i do to rename it back?
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> msgol: l
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> i have a shrinked partition
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> i have the space
[04:54] <Jebus> very jamesd
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> i deleted the stupid patition
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> cuz i thought it was corrupted
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> but it was my swap
[04:54] <msgol> ok use 1GB of it to make a swap
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> how can i recreate an excreapted
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> swap partition
[04:54] <Psil0Cybin> from the space i formatted
[04:54] <A_MAN> msgol:  only one gig  ?
[04:54] <msgol> yeah only one gig.
[04:55] <jamesd> swap can be accessed when your system could be underduress.. i wouldn't want to trust my swap being encrypted and mofied at the same time my system is under memory pressure...  and it may be safe with this kernel and not the next. \
[04:55] <jKlaus> Hey guys
[04:55] <jKlaus> anyone here running 14.04?
[04:55] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu+1 | jKlaus
[04:55] <Psil0Cybin> sigh nvm ill just format lol
[04:55] <Psil0Cybin> i am soooo confused
[04:56] <msgol> nah just make a swap
[04:56] <jKlaus> SchrodingersScat, are you telling me to seek channel ubuntu+1?
[04:56] <SchrodingersScat> jKlaus: yes, if you want information about 14.04, as it's not april.
[04:56] <Psil0Cybin> msgol: but i am confused i want my 3 GB swap back that was encrypted
[04:56] <Psil0Cybin> I do not know how to do this
[04:56] <Psil0Cybin> the space is there
[04:56] <Psil0Cybin> how do I recreate the swap..
[04:57] <Psil0Cybin> sigh i litterely
[04:57] <Psil0Cybin> created a problem from nothing
[04:57] <msgol> wait so you already have a swap partition?
[04:57] <jKlaus> SchrodingersScat, that doesn't mean someone else in here wouldn't be running it.
[04:57] <jKlaus> Just b/c it isn't 'released'
[04:57] <SchrodingersScat> jKlaus: that makes it offtopic, also !poll
[04:57] <A_MAN> msgol:  he deleted it for some unknown reason
[04:57] <msgol> oh so deleted it.
[04:57] <msgol> i dont think you can bring it back.
[04:57] <Psil0Cybin> yea
[04:57] <Psil0Cybin> thats what i thought
[04:58] <msgol> so make a new one no worries. its not like you hade something important stored there.
[04:58] <jKlaus> SchrodingersScat, last time I was in here some guy was complaining about his wife.. didn't realize we ever remained on topic lol
[04:58] <A_MAN> msgol:  you can not make new swap in gparted set up from there ?
[04:58] <A_MAN> I swear that I have done that before
[04:58] <msgol> you can.
[04:59] <msgol> right click on empty space create new select linux swap as file system
[04:59] <msgol> right click get info. copy its UUID
[05:00] <msgol> go to /etc/fstab with nano or anything else
[05:00] <msgol> update the swap UUID there
[05:00] <msgol> restart all good.
[05:02] <msgol> hell not even fstab stuff
[05:02] <msgol> right click and swapon
[05:03] <DrManhattan> im having a problem getting my wireless card to automatically connect to my network when I boot
[05:04] <DrManhattan> the card module is loading, the network info I put in for it is proper
[05:04] <DrManhattan> it doesn't associate with the AP when it boots though
[05:04] <DrManhattan> I would appreciate any help you can give
[05:10] <DrManhattan> the wireless only associates with the AP when I run /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:11] <DrManhattan> Please, I humbly beg for help. THere's over 1500 people in here, can't ANYONE give me some help?
[05:11] <msgol> here is my dumb idea if you found nothing else put that in rc.local
[05:12] <DrManhattan> lets try
[05:12] <msgol> before exit 0
[05:12] <Psil0Cybin> DrManhattan: !patients
[05:13] <msgol> its in /etc/rc.local
[05:13] <Jebus> how do i uninstall ubuntu and reinstall it if it is the only OS on my computer
[05:13] <msgol> you back up all you need to keep from /
[05:14] <msgol> format your / and install a brand new Ubuntu on it
[05:14] <Brispere> Hola
[05:14] <danny4way> Can someone help me with the secondary display?
[05:14] <daftykins> Psil0Cybin: i'm not sure how doctors customers apply here ;)
[05:14] <Brispere> I can try danny
[05:14] <Brispere> What's the issue?
[05:15] <danny4way> I have my laptop and 42 inches TV. My laptop LED is cracked so I can't see clearly on my laptop but the laptop is complety fine and I was just thinking maybe I can use it as a computer base and use TV as a monitor
[05:15] <Brispere> Does your laptop have VGA/DVI/HDMI output?
[05:15] <danny4way> But then the issue with the TV is that it's rotated to clockwise. It's like I am looking at it sideway. So I want to make it normal display.
[05:16] <danny4way> I connected it to computer with VGA
[05:16] <DrManhattan> !patients
[05:16] <Brispere> Mhm, just a second I know there is a way to do it on windows I'll look it up
[05:16] <danny4way> Thanks
[05:16] <DrManhattan> ?
[05:17] <ianorlin> I think arnadr can make a display rotate 90 degrees
[05:17] <Lubuntu13-10> Hello
[05:17] <kriskropd> I tried to build an installer package from amd-catalyst-13.12-linux-x86.x86_64.run and got http://sprunge.us/SIeh  - is anyone familiar with install amd catalyst and ati non-free driver on ubuntu here?
[05:17] <daftykins> !ati | kriskropd
[05:18] <SonikkuAmerica> kriskropd: That plus why are you still using Raring?
[05:18] <SonikkuAmerica> !13.04
[05:18] <Brispere> Looks like I may have found something danny
[05:18] <kriskropd> SonikkuAmerica: because old machine
[05:18] <Brispere> http://blog.manoharbhattarai.com.np/2010/05/06/how-to-rotate-or-flip-your-ubuntu-desktop-upside-down/
[05:18] <danny4way> but how does arnadr work? ianorlin
[05:18] <Lubuntu13-10> I'm having a huge problem that you'll probably tell me is a little thing but I installed "Gnome-Shell" Through synaptics package manager on Lubuntu 13.10 and when I logged in on the Gnome I could not see a desktop at all, now all the other themes do the same exact thing, I only see the background and my mouse if I move it, Any tips?
[05:18] <SonikkuAmerica> kriskropd: Why d you think it can't handle 13.10 (Saucy)?
[05:19] <kriskropd> SonikkuAmerica: 13.04 isn't that old <_< were not at 14.04 yet
[05:19] <SonikkuAmerica> kriskropd: But we don't support 13.04 anymore.
[05:19] <Brispere> Could anyone tell me how to add windows 7 to grub after a new installation?
[05:19] <kriskropd> SonikkuAmerica: no it can handle 13.10 jsut dandy, I jsut haven't mustered enough cares to upgrade it
[05:19] <Lubuntu13-10> Can anyone help me?
[05:19] <kriskropd> SonikkuAmerica: my attention isn't on 13.04, it's on atinon-free driver
[05:19] <SonikkuAmerica> Lubuntu13-10: aybe, why not give us more details?
[05:20] <Lubuntu13-10> I'm having a huge problem that you'll probably tell me is a little thing but I installed "Gnome-Shell" Through synaptics package manager on Lubuntu 13.10 and when I logged in on the Gnome I could not see a desktop at all, now all the other themes do the same exact thing, I only see the background and my mouse if I move it, Any tips?
[05:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Lubuntu13-10: Also, did you ask in #lubuntu ?
[05:20] <kriskropd> SonikkuAmerica: specifically hwy the debian package builder isn't working correctly
[05:20] <kriskropd> why*
[05:20] <Lubuntu13-10> SonikkuAmerica: I would think it to be the same type of problem on Ubuntu.........
[05:20] <Lubuntu13-10> (I think)
[05:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Lubuntu13-10: Probably.
[05:20] <Jebus> can anyone help fix this problem http://imgur.com/a/NTXpV
[05:21] <Ben64> Jebus: looks like a broken video card
[05:21] <jeffrey_f> an upgrade to 13.10 can cure MANY pains.  Many fixes, updates and newer softwares.
[05:21] <SonikkuAmerica> !info gnome-shell
[05:21] <xjkx> (ubuntu 13.10 64 bits), on kdenlive I try to renderize, I dont have codecs for avi, is it ubuntu restricted extras I gotta install ?
[05:21] <Lubuntu13-10> SonikkuAmerica: Any ideas?
[05:21] <danny4way> I tried to rotate the 42 inches TV with xrandr command and it rotated but primary got messed up.
[05:21] <DrManhattan> why do I have the -generic kernel installed when I told the installer to install the server kernel?
[05:22] <Jebus> Thank you Ben64
[05:22] <Pinkamena_D> for some reason, I have a hard drive i want to format but ubuntu nor bactrack can see it in gparted / fdisk, any suggestions?
[05:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Lubuntu13-10: Hmm... maybe you could install all of GNOME? [ sudo apt-get install gnome ]
[05:22] <Pinkamena_D> its just a standard 7200 sata drive, used to be part of a raid array though.
[05:22] <danny4way> I need help with display resolution. Please someone help me out.
[05:23] <Lubuntu13-10> SonikkuAmerica: I'm running it on a 512MB RAM machine, would that impact the performance? :/
[05:23] <genii> Lubuntu13-10: Immensely
[05:23] <Ben64> Pinkamena_D: pastebin "sudo blkid; sudo parted -l; sudo fdisk -l"
[05:23] <danny4way> My secondary display is rotated to counterclockwise. I think.
[05:23] <Lubuntu13-10> Aaaaand Sh*t
[05:23] <Ben64> Lubuntu13-10: watch the language here please
[05:24] <Lubuntu13-10> Thats why I put the "*"
[05:24] <Ben64> just don't put the word in any form
[05:24] <Lubuntu13-10> No prob
[05:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Lubuntu13-10: No, GNOME can't run well on 512 MB RAM, shell or otherwise
[05:24] <Ben64> Lubuntu13-10: does lxde still work?
[05:24] <msgol_> Lubuntu13-10: CTRL ALT F1 Login then "Sudo -s" enter pass. "apt-get purge gnome-shell" then do : "add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3" then : "apt-get -f update" then: "apt-get install gnome-shell ubuntu-gnome-desktop"
[05:24] <jeffrey_f> pinkamena: I've had trouble using drives that WERE a raid set.  Did you try using Dariks Boot and Nuke (http://www.dban.org/)?  It should wipe the drive clean
[05:24] <genii> Lubuntu13-10: We understand the sentiment, but even obfuscated obscenity is frowned upon :)
[05:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Lubuntu13-10: If you're looking for another desktop env that will run on 512 MB, try XFCE, e17, or MATE
[05:25] <danny4way> Please. I am a new Ubuntu User and I am totally lost with it. I know how to change it in windows because it's windows+P and I can change everything within clicks. But how do i do with Ubuntu?
[05:25] <Lubuntu13-10> Ben64: I managed to get it working again but now I have the Gnome desktop theme option in the Logon options that will do nothing but mess things up :(
[05:26] <danny4way> My secondary display is messed up. Please someone help me out.
[05:26] <msgol_> are you talking about GDM when you mention gnome desktop theme in logon?
[05:26] <ianorlin> I think he might be talking about icon theme
[05:26] <Pinkamena_D> Ben64, those commands have revealed a device type I have not seen before, /dev/sr3: LABEL="UDF Volume" TYPE="udf"
[05:27] <msgol_> icon theme on logon is very strange
[05:27] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys I just formatted my whole hard drive removed everytying i am loading the same exact iso i used to install the system a few hours ago, but when i go to install and follow the steps it lags on the continue page where it says its connected to the internet has a power source, etc and does not let me install...
[05:27] <Ben64> Pinkamena_D: likely your cd/dvd drive
[05:27] <finchd> win 49
[05:28] <jeffrey_f> danny4way: Summarize your problem the best you can and what you have tried and/or know already as well as the what you need to hapen
[05:28] <Brispere> Alright heres a tricky question, netflix for ubuntu 13.10?
[05:28] <Brispere> How do
[05:29] <msgol_> Brispere: seach silverlight linux. good luck :D
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> there we go
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> reinstalling :)
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> i have a long night of reconfiguring ahead of me :D
[05:30] <Brispere> Will moonlight work?
[05:30] <msgol_> haha
[05:30] <jeffrey_f> Pinkamena: http://www.dban.org/  <--DoD level disk wipe.  Should kill everything on that disk about it being part of a raid set, which is why you can't read it.
[05:30] <danny4way> Okay. So I have my laptop and its LED is broken. So I am trying to connect my laptop to TV by using VGA connector. I was with Windows before and it was just fine using it because on windows, I just need to change the screen by windows+P and I can change the secondary display as a default display. But right now I have this issue when my secondary display is rotated. I tired to go to setting to change it to normal but there's no opti
[05:30] <danny4way> on for it.
[05:30] <Brispere> http://www.microsoft.com/getsilverlight/Get-Started/Install/Default.aspx the fuck
[05:31] <Psil0Cybin> thats cool!
[05:31] <Brispere> There is an official silverlight for us now?
[05:31] <Psil0Cybin> the USB i used remembered my username and hostname from the first time i installed an OS?
[05:31] <Psil0Cybin> that is pretty neat, and interesting
[05:31] <kriskropd> Brispere: I'm pretty sure we've had silverlight for awhile, nto that I would ever touch it even on Windows
[05:31] <kriskropd> not*
[05:32] <ianorlin> danny4way do you have can you install arnadr?
[05:32] <Brispere> Don't really have a choice until html5 streaming is consistently available
[05:32] <jeffrey_f> danny4way: systems settings, find Displays.....
[05:32] <danny4way> what's the command to install arnadr?
[05:32] <danny4way> ianorlin
[05:33] <ianorlin> actually think jeffrey_f solution may be better to go to system setting find displays
[05:33] <danny4way> jeffrey_f i tried the display already. There's no option for me to change it to normal rotation. It only has clockwise and counterclockwise.
[05:33] <peyam> Hi
[05:33] <peyam> Doesn easylist work for you guys?
[05:33] <ianorlin> there is in arandr though
[05:33] <ianorlin> open software center and search for arandr
[05:33] <peyam> can you see this : https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easylist.txt
[05:33] <jeffrey_f> danny4way: Does your monitor have the ability to physically rotate?
[05:34] <danny4way> No jeffrey_f
[05:34] <kriskropd> peyam: 'sudo apt-get install arandr'
[05:35] <kriskropd> peyam: im not familiar with easylist and it's not in repository - what are you asking again?
[05:35] <danny4way> ianorlin, there's arandr in the software center.
[05:35] <jeffrey_f> danny4way: Try logging into guest....let us know if that user has normal screen rotation
[05:35] <danny4way> I tried that one too. jeffrey_f
[05:35] <danny4way> it doesn't seem to work
[05:36] <peyam> kriskropd, its a adblocks list. not seems to work
[05:36] <IdleOne> peyam: that isn't an ubuntu issue. see if adblock has a support forum.
[05:36] <ianorlin> then launch arandr and then go to outputs and select the direction to rotate it to make it right side up
[05:37] <kriskropd> peyam: oh its a block list, this channel won't support AdBlock extensions for your web browser
[05:37] <jeffrey_f> danny4way: I'm lost for a solution.  Anyways, I need to leave.  Good luck
[05:37] <danny4way> Right now I am installing arandr
[05:37] <peyam> IdleOne, just asking if its works for you. I know how to trouble shoot it but fisrt i should know its only not works for me
[05:37] <peyam> kriskropd, can you see this file? https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easylist.txt
[05:37] <msgol> is there Bash channel?
[05:37] <kriskropd> peyam: yes I can see the file, its a blocklist of some sort
[05:37] <kriskropd> msgol: #bash
[05:37] <IdleOne> peyam: it is not an ubuntu issue, which means not supported here. asking here is off topic.
[05:37] <peyam> kriskropd, would please send the list to me?
[05:38] <msgol> yes :)
[05:38] <kriskropd> msgol: its a fun place, but be sure to pay attention to the URLS in the channel's MOTD
[05:38] <kriskropd> msgol: save yourself from getting yelled at :)
[05:39] <msgol> kriskropd: thanks for warrning and no worries im not dumb :D . (Clicking on all links in 3 2 1.)
[05:39] <peyam> I would be very greatfull if someone sends me the list
[05:39] <kriskropd> peyam: im piping it to a pastebin, it will take a moment (that is a really huge text file)
[05:39] <peyam> okej thanks alot. this ads are killing me
[05:40] <peyam> kriskropd, if its not too much to as for. would you do this one too? https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/easyprivacy.txt
[05:42] <kriskropd> peyam: sorry took s0o long, sprunge failed me (list too big) so i had to install pastebinit. Here are the links http://paste.ubuntu.com/6901452/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6901453/
[05:42] <kriskropd> peyam: btw, can you not see the links? you could try a proxy :o
[05:42] <peyam> no. it donno what the problem is.
[05:43] <peyam> kriskropd, if you go in here :https://easylist.adblockplus.org/en/
[05:43] <peyam> and save View Easylist and save it
[05:43] <peyam> and Easy privacy
[05:43] <peyam> and then you can upload those two elsewhere?
[05:44] <kriskropd> peyam: I'm going to private message you, we are being rather offtopic
[05:44] <peyam> thanks
[05:54] <alazare619> im looking for a easy to use dhcp server gui tool must intergrate with fog server
[05:54] <alazare619> as i installed fogserver dhcp daemon
[06:05] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys
[06:06] <Psil0Cybin> where in ubuntu 12.04 is the file stored for mouse themes
[06:06] <Psil0Cybin> to set them globally
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> will ubuntu refresh the life of an ibook g4, or will the hardware still bottleneck current web requierments?
[06:14] <nightfly> yes
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> nightfly: yes on what part :p
[06:14] <xjkx> (ubuntu 13.10 64 bits), on kdenlive I try to renderize, I dont have codecs for avi, is it ubuntu restricted extras I gotta install ?
[06:15] <nightfly> bottleneck
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> nightfly: ok tnx for info mate, maybe lubuntu or xubuntu run smoother on it?
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | xjkx
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> !info vlc | xjkx
[06:16] <nightfly> maybe a bit soo
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> nightfly: better stay on tiger then?
[06:16] <Myro_> Hey, im trying to use playonlinux, but it is saying it requires a certain patch (4.0.18) how do i update to it
[06:17] <xjkx> lotuspsychje: that means it has the avi codecs kdenlive needs or no ?
[06:17] <Tom> nightfly: i have installed ubuntu to my computer. but now the computer is not booting, may be its not working,can i use its ubuntu installed hdd to my second computer withought reinstalling ubuntu, or does ubuntu binds itself to the hardware is been installed to.?
[06:17] <mnemon> lotuspsychje: the only real difference comes from the OS speed, if your current OS is using large percentage of the resources, switching might help, if not, it won't
[06:18] <mnemon> you're still gonna have problems with modern web pages since the js / plugin engines aren't any faster
[06:18] <Myro_> like is there a way to dl the patch via terminal?
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> mnemon: yes but as firefox for ubuntu will be up to date, might run smoother on flash no?
[06:19] <Tom> mnemon:i have installed ubuntu to my computer. but now the computer is not booting, may be its not working,can i use its ubuntu installed hdd to my second computer withought reinstalling ubuntu, or does ubuntu binds itself to the hardware is been installed to?
[06:19] <mnemon> lotuspsychje: could be, i have no idea how recent flash you have at the moment
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> mnemon: got a nightmare on safari with flash 9
[06:19] <mnemon> i'd switch jus to get a new flash ... otherwise you're gonna have a laptop full of viriis ;)
[06:20] <mnemon> Tom: you can use it on another computer
[06:20] <mnemon> assuming it's on the same architechture
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> mnemon: also my idea, but had to ask about ubuntu's performance on ibook g4 first
[06:20] <Semor> how do I detect how many file descriptor have been used in one process
[06:21] <mnemon> lotuspsychje: could just try a livecd or something to see how it works?
[06:21] <alazare619> i need to make a symlink from /sbin/dhcpd3 to /sbin/dhcp
[06:21] <Tom> mnemon: can we boot ubuntu installed hdd with  any pc?
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> mnemon: good idea tnx mate, ive read ibook cant take usb boot right?
[06:22] <mnemon> Semor: ls /proc/<programs-pid-here>/fd iirc
[06:22] <addajones> no usb boot on non-intel macs
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> xjkx: not sure about kdenlive mate, never tested myself
[06:22] <addajones> u can firewire boot though
[06:22] <mnemon> lotuspsychje: not sure, haven't tried myself
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> addajones: i need to burn ubuntu ppc version on cd then?
[06:23] <mnemon> Tom: like i said, as long as it's using the same arch it should work
[06:23] <Tom> same arch means ?
[06:23] <addajones> lotuspsychje: i suppose that would work
[06:23] <mnemon> x86 / x86_64 / ARM
[06:23] <Tom> can u please explain it ?
[06:23] <mnemon> same type of processor
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> addajones: will it auto boot cd first then?
[06:24] <Semor> mnemon:why it shows me a serial number ? 0  1  10  11  12  13  14  15  16  17  18  19  2  20  3  4  5  6  7  8  9
[06:24] <Semor> mnemon:I need the current number of fd in use
[06:24] <addajones> lotuspsychje: don't know man, it's worth a shot though. it's a good place to start. normally you hold "c" on those computers to boot to cd
[06:24] <Tom> mnemon: if ubuntu was installed on an intel pc ,then can we boot it on amd pc?
[06:24] <mnemon> Semor: those are the fds used by the process
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> addajones: ok tnx alot for info mate
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> mnemon: you2 tnx for relevant support
[06:26] <addajones> lotuspsychje: np
[06:26] <mnemon> Semor: could also use lsof (lsof | wc -l) etc.
[06:27] <mnemon> Tom: yes
[06:27] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i keep having accounts-daemon crashing on my new xubuntu install
[06:27] <Psil0Cybin> what can i do?! to fix this non sense
[06:29] <Tom> mnemom: thanks for the info, but in ubuntu it was said that ubuntu locks down itself to the hardware is been installed to, and may be it won;t work many different pc after installation?
[06:29] <mnemon> Tom: some parts might misbehave, especially if you use a comp with different gpu
[06:30] <tochtlix86> quit
[06:30] <astropirate> Hello all
[06:31] <astropirate> I want to install Kdevelop 4.6, came out in early Jan.  The one in the repo is 4.3. There are MANY fixes and enhancements in new version. Is there a PPA for this?
[06:32] <mnemon> Tom: it *should* boot on another machine with the same arch but there's a lot of things that might break ... if you want to do something besides test if it boots/fix some part in recovery i'd just do fresh install on the other one.
[06:32] <astropirate> running ubuntu 12.04
[06:33] <Semor> mnemon:how do I set the max count of fd ,which could be used  in one process ?
[06:33] <Guest81707> astropirate: http://userbase.kde.org/KDevelop/Install4.5
[06:33] <Tom> mnemon: i asked this question, because i wanted to know, that is it possible to install ubuntu to a flash drive permanently and use it with almost any computer ? is it possible?
[06:33] <astropirate> Guest81707, i said I want 4.6 :\
[06:34] <Nicolas_22> I made a stupid mistake and ran chmod -R 0777 /
[06:34] <Nicolas_22> now all files in / are 0777 and it doesn't function well for example I can't ssh into the server
[06:34] <astropirate> nicholas-qg, high five buddy
[06:34] <Nicolas_22> is there any way to undo this harm ?
[06:35] <astropirate> Nicolas_22, i'm going to be captain hindsight and say you shouldnt be screwing around your server as root
[06:35] <mnemon> Tom: yes
[06:35] <mnemon> Tom: there's plenty of readymade images for that(live cd / usb ones)
[06:36] <Guest81707> astropirate: then it looks like you will ha0ve to install from source for now
[06:36] <mnemon> Semor: see ulimit
[06:36] <astropirate> Guest81707, i cam accross the KDE backports. I will give that a try first
[06:36] <mnemon> Semor: http://linux.die.net/man/1/bash search for ulimit
[06:37] <Tom> mnemon: i am not talking about live ubuntu, i would like to know will ubuntu will on any pc if its been installed permanently to the flashdrive?
[06:39] <mnemon> Tom: yes ... it doesn't matter if it's live or if it has some persistent parts.
[06:39] <whoever> astropirate: there looks to be an error that was reported with kdevelop on 13.04 but don't know if it was resolved yet, just to give you a heads up
[06:39] <mnemon> Tom: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[06:40] <astropirate> whoever, thanks will keep eye out
[06:40] <whoever> np
[06:40] <Ben64> 13.04 is no longer supported
[06:40] <whoever> Ben64: thx
[06:41] <tie> dfghjk
[06:41] <whoever> Ben64: do you happen to know why 13.x is not supported
[06:42] <Ben64> 13.10 is still supported, 13.04 is not
[06:42] <astropirate> I am still stuck on 12.04 :(
[06:42] <Ben64> the non-lts releases are only supported for 9 months
[06:42] <Tom> mnemon: thanks again for the info,persistent ubuntu is reliable? can we install a lot of packages in persistent, does it crashes often?
[06:42] <Ben64> astropirate: good news, you're on an lts release! you have support until april 2017
[06:42] <astropirate> I have a sweet setup with xmonad + ubuntu unified menu, that doesnt work on newer version
[06:42] <whoever> astropirate: why are you stuck
[06:43] <Psil0Cybin> wierd that gparted
[06:43] <tie> is there somebody know the 13.10 has 2 chrome icon in my dash home
[06:43] <Psil0Cybin> does not come on an xubuntu machine that was just installed
[06:43] <genii> astropirate: Luckily you can go straight to 14.04 after it goes into official release
[06:43] <Psil0Cybin> i thought it is standard
[06:43] <Psil0Cybin> :P
[06:43] <genii> ( LTS -> LTS )
[06:43] <astropirate> genii,  I just might. I have been able to replicate portions of my xmonad setup with just pure KDE
[06:43] <hawt-user> how to make gui program to run as root on startup
[06:43] <astropirate> large portions*
[06:43] <mnemon> Tom: depends on the method, i've had usb installations that work just as well as hdd one and some custom images that don't.
[06:44] <Ben64> hawt-user: you shouldn't be running things as root, what are you trying to run?
[06:44] <mnemon> Tom: nomal installation to USB should work just aswell as one to HDD aslong as your USB drive works
[06:44] <hawt-user> hawt-user: teamviewer on startup
[06:44] <whoever> astropirate: so why are you tring to replicate xmonad with kde xmonad is ausome
[06:44] <Psil0Cybin> is it just me or does gparted not come with fresh xubuntu installs after the system is installed? and you have to install it through apt-get install gparted?
[06:45] <hawt-user> Ben64: teamviewer on startup
[06:45] <mojtaba> Hi, I am doing a backup with rdiff-back
[06:45] <whoever> and ausome is prety asome too
[06:45] <Ben64> hawt-user: teamviewer doesn't need root
[06:45] <Tom> mnemon: means if ubuntu is installted to the flashdrive like we do on hdd with all swap and partitions, then it can be booted on any pc withought any problems?
[06:45] <Semor> mnemon:I have used command 'ulimit -n 4000' to set max fd count to 4000 ,but it only works in this shell ,not in other shell
[06:46] <hawt-user> Ben64: well i want to run it as root
[06:46] <SchrodingersScat> Tom: that's a huge condition, any pc in the world?
[06:46] <Tom> i mean most of the pc's.
[06:46] <Ben64> hawt-user: well, don't. thats a security risk
[06:47] <mnemon> Semor: see /etc/security/limits.conf
[06:47] <mojtaba> Hi, I am doing a backup with rdiff-backup (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6901655/)  should I exclude /home/.ecryptfs as well?
[06:47] <Semor> mnemon:It is empty with all lines commented
[06:48] <mnemon> Semor: yes, read the comments
[06:48] <mnemon> or http://posidev.com/blog/2009/06/04/set-ulimit-parameters-on-ubuntu/
[06:49] <SchrodingersScat> Tom: I've had good examples, your results may vary.
[06:49] <Tom> mnemon:that means if ubuntu is installted to the flashdrive like we do on hdd with all swap and partitions, then it can be booted on any pc withought any problem?
[06:51] <Tom> SchrodingersScat: such as?
[06:51] <mnemon> Tom: the previous limitations i mentioned apply, you might have problems with gfx drivers and it won't boot on different arch(exception is: x86 will work on x86_64)
[06:51] <SchrodingersScat> Tom: ^
[06:52] <Tom> mnemon: wil it work with any 64 bit cpu's?
[06:52] <mojtaba> Hi, I am doing a backup with rdiff-backup (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6901655/)  should I exclude /home/.ecryptfs as well?
[06:53] <astropirate> whoever, yes it is awesome. But for managing window layouts, not much else :(
[06:53] <mnemon> Tom: no, i64 kernel won't boot on x86_64 and vice versa and so on.
[06:53] <astropirate> KDE provides everything I need
[06:53] <astropirate> plus some eye candy doeesn't hurt :p  I got a giant hunk of a gaming machine, so ram/CPU usage is not an issue for me
[06:53] <astropirate> anyway
[06:53] <mnemon> Tom: but in practice, yes it will work on most laptops and desktops if you have x86 kernel.
[06:53] <astropirate> i must re-log-in
[06:54] <mnemon> (x86 = 32bit)
[06:54] <SchrodingersScat> mojtaba: that seems up to you.
[06:54] <mojtaba> SchrodingersScat: What do you mean? Is there any duplication? Is it needed?
[06:55] <Tom> mnemon: a lot of people say that ubuntu binds itself to the hardware it been installed to, and then it wont boot to other computer? is it true?
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[06:56] <Tom> mnemon: a lot of people say that ubuntu binds itself to the hardware it been installed to, and then it wont boot to other computer? is it true?
[06:56] <mojtaba> Hi, I am doing a backup with rdiff-backup (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6901655/)  should I exclude /home/.ecryptfs as well?
[06:57] <mnemon> Tom: no. But if you move the OS to different hard drive you will need to change grub settings.
[06:57] <SchrodingersScat> mojtaba: I thought that's where files where for encrypted private directories or other ecryptfs stuff, but I could be wrong, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[06:57] <mnemon> as it boots based on the hardware UIDs
[06:58] <pr0metheu5> this is probably not the proper channel for elementary os support, is it?
[06:58] <Tom> mnemon: does it has drivers for mostof the computers if been booting into?
[06:58] <mnemon> Tom: yes.
[07:00] <Tom> mnemon: would u consider the kernel 3.2.29 new or old?
[07:00] <mnemon> newish
[07:00] <mnemon> Tom: but i work a lot with old servers :P
[07:01] <SchrodingersScat> mojtaba: your private keys
[07:01] <Tom> does this kernel has drivers for newer hardwares?
[07:02] <mojtaba> SchrodingersScat: The problem is that, I get some errors while doing backup this directory
[07:02] <mojtaba> SchrodingersScat: Although I am root, but I get permission denied errors!
[07:02] <mnemon> Tom: depends what was compiled into it.
[07:03] <Tom> mnemon: i would like to make ubuntu a portable os, like carrying all ur softwares, files and settings in a small flash drive, and can be booted to any pc. that was my point.
[07:04] <nightfly> mojtaba: fuse and some other filesystems don't care that you are root, they care about the user who mounted them
[07:05] <mnemon> Tom: shouldn't be a problem, i've had plenty of those over the years none of them ubuntu though.
[07:05] <FEX> hello =P
[07:05] <Tom> mnemon: can i use puppy linux for that purpose? cause it uses the ubuntu repository? will puppy linux boot to any pc?
[07:05] <mojtaba> nightfly: So, how should I make rdiff-backup to ignore these errors, because It never finishes doing backup. (I have waited for more than 24 hours)
[07:06] <nightfly> I'd probably explicitly exclude the directories it's erroring on
[07:06] <mnemon> Tom: any linux usually works for that yeah.
[07:08] <Tom> mnemon:that' nice, i used to thought that linux binds itself to the hardware, it being installed to , thus it eliminates the portabiity feature, it restricts u to that single pc. thanks for clearing my doubt.
[07:08] <chaotix> I am on ubuntu 13.10 fresh install...  i just installed an app i always install, Nautilus Open Terminal, which adds 'Open in Terminal' to the right-click context menu of Nautilus...  The Problem is that 'Open in Terminal' is now only showing up in root nautilus windows.
[07:09] <chaotix> Why is this, and what can I do to rectify?
[07:09] <chaotix> Thanks in advance..
[07:09] <mnemon> Tom: np
[07:09] <Tom> mnemon:that' nice, i used to thought that linux binds itself to the hardware, it being installed to , thus it eliminates the portabiity feature, it restricts u to that single pc. thanks for clearing my doubt.
[07:10] <mojtaba> nightfly: SchrodingersScat: So, how should I make rdiff-backup to ignore these errors, because It never finishes doing backup. (I have waited for more than 24 hours)
[07:12] <Tom> mnemon: thanks for all the info , bye
[07:12] <Jordan_U> Tom: The only exception to hardware drivers being configured dynamically at boot is proprietary graphics drivers.
[07:12] <Tom> ok
[07:13] <mojtaba> nightfly: SchrodingersScat: So, how should I make rdiff-backup to ignore these errors, because It never finishes doing backup. (I have waited for more than 24 hours)
[07:13] <Jordan_U> Tom: If you install Nvidia's proprietary drivers then you will have issues starting X on a machine without an Nvidia GPU for instance.
[07:25] <komatose> Hey, i just installed lubuntu on a laptop, got it configured and customized, and somehow managed to log into a nexus 7 session. Now, there is no UI, and no way for me to logout of the session. So, I'm stuck. Any ideas?
[07:26] <adam___> I'm trying to get empathy to share my desktop. I get the request on one side, but when I confirm, it says connection closed and the IP that pops up on the other computer is 127.0.0.1 which obviously is wrong.. what can I do to get this working? The accounts I'm using are google accounts
[07:28] <komatose> How do i logout out of a nexus 7 session when there is no UI?
[07:29] <adam___> Ctrl+alt+f1
[07:29] <adam___> Then kill the process
[07:32] <komatose> adam___:  i am at a terminal now, what do i type?
[07:33] <adam___> ps aux | less
[07:34] <adam___> Look for light dm
[07:34] <adam___> Or other sessions
[07:34] <komatose> k, brb
[07:34] <adam___> Once you find it, press q
[07:34] <komatose> ok
[07:34] <adam___> Then type kill 1234
[07:35] <blocky> ps aux | grep light
[07:35] <adam___> Where 1234 is the number that process
[07:36] <komatose> oh ok.. hold on, let me try again
[07:36] <adam___> Or you can just open a new desktop session with ctrl-alt-f8
[07:36] <Raj_> i installed ubuntu server on my system, then when i rebooted my system i got missing operating system
[07:37] <adam___> ctrl-alt-fX (where X is any number) will switch you to a new session
[07:38] <komatose> i don't know which process to kill
[07:38] <komatose> :(
[07:38] <komatose> ctrl-alt-f8 didn't do anything
[07:39] <Jordan_U> komatose: What do you mean by a "nexus 7 session"?
[07:39] <komatose> when u log out of lubuntu
[07:39] <blocky> komatose: try ps aux | grep light
[07:39] <komatose> there are several options
[07:39] <komatose> k hold on
[07:40] <sprink> is archive.canonical.com down or something?
[07:40] <komatose> ok, there are 4 things listed
[07:41] <Raj_> i have a UEFI system and installed ubuntu server first. will there be any change in install process
[07:41] <komatose> i typed kill 1014 and got operation not permitted
[07:42] <blocky> komatose: sudo service lightdm restart
[07:42] <komatose> now i'm just back at a black screen again
[07:43] <komatose> ..blocky.
[07:43] <blocky> komatose: did you install ubuntu on your nexus 7 tablet?
[07:43] <Semor> mnemon:what does this mean  ? user  soft  nofile 9000
[07:43] <komatose> nope, on a laptop.
[07:43] <komatose> lubuntu
[07:43] <komatose> didn't mean to login to nexus 7
[07:44] <blocky> komatose: i sort of came in in the middle, what was your original problem
 Hey, i just installed lubuntu on a laptop, got it configured and customized, and somehow managed to log into a nexus 7 session. Now, there is no UI, and no way for me to logout of the session. So, I'm stuck. Any ideas?
[07:44] <blocky> what do you mean "nexus 7 session"
[07:44] <jj995> is "time cat /cifs/hugefile.binary > /dev/null" an OK test of read speed for a network file system (assuming the file is not already cached)
[07:45] <jj995> cat doesn't unnecessarily slow it down, right?
[07:45] <komatose> when you're in lubuntu, and go to logout, and then click one of the many options (like lubuntu nexus), then login.. this is what happened.
[07:47] <blocky> komatose: you can get a virtual console by pressing ctrl + alt + 1,2,3..6 and then when you do ctrl + alt + 7 you get a black screen?
[07:48] <komatose> no black screen. just did ctrl alt F1 a minute ago and got back to where i was
[07:49] <blocky> what does ctrl alt f7 do?
[07:49] <sprink> anyone know why I can't use apt with the archive.canonical.com repo for precise even though I can naviate to it in a browser just fine?
[07:49] <ianorlin> is there a mouse pointer?
[07:49] <adam___> should get you back to the desktop session
[07:49] <ianorlin> did you log into plain openbox?
[07:49] <komatose> blocky: this: ~
[07:49] <adam___> can anyone help me with getting remote assistance working using empathy and google accounts?
[07:49] <adam___> or is there a better way?
[07:50] <komatose> ianorlin: not sure. it's just a blank screen. but now i'm at a console.
[07:50] <adam___> just reboot the system
[07:50] <komatose> shutting down by pressing the power button and rebooting gets me to the same thing.
[07:50] <adam___> sudo reboot
[07:51] <komatose> wait..
[07:51] <blocky> did you configure automatic login when you installed ubuntu?
[07:51] <komatose> yes
[07:51] <komatose> yeah, same thing, black screen.
[07:52] <komatose> there's no cursor or anything.
[07:52] <komatose> pressed ctrl alt Fsomething and got back to a console again
[07:52] <komatose> had to login
[07:54] <komatose> http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2013-11/msg14282.html
[07:54] <blocky> maybe if you disable automatic login you can pick a different session
[07:54] <komatose> "Public bug reported:  When selecting the "nexus 7" or "lx games" sessions, the session does not start correctly. Only the background is loaded. After that, there is no usable UI for the user. And no possibility to log out of the session."
[07:54] <komatose> how do i disable it from here?
[07:55] <adam___> where can I go for help with Empathy?
[07:55] <adam___> can't get remote desktop sharing working
[07:55] <blocky> komatose: sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[07:56] <blocky> komatose: then look for something like autologin-user=komatose, and delete your name from that line
[07:56] <blocky> komatose: after you do that then press ctrl + x to exit and when it asks if you want to save, press y
[07:56] <komatose> ok...
[07:57] <komatose> ok, done.
[07:57] <komatose> blocky: now what?
[07:57] <blocky> komatose: reboot
[07:59] <helmut_> hi
[07:59] <komatose> blocky: same thing, except now there's a popup on the top left saying i've been disconnected from the network.
[07:59] <komatose> :(
[07:59] <komatose> it went away.
[07:59] <komatose> almost felt like i had something to click on for a minute. but no mouse cursor.
[07:59] <adam___> what's the best way to remote to my parents' computer?
[07:59] <blocky> adam___: teamviewer
[08:00] <sunshine-api> d
[08:00] <adam___> I run ubuntu and so do they
[08:00] <sunshine-api> hallo
[08:00] <allyoutoo> Hi, could someone explain me why gnome-shell seems to have two kind of "window" themes, some windows seem to use adawaita theme and some the theme from gtk theme I have, is there way to force every app use the gtk themes theming?
[08:00] <adam___> is teamviewer still the best?
[08:00] <sunshine-api> can you help me
[08:00] <sunshine-api> kannst du mir helfen
[08:00] <sunshine-api> Linux probl
[08:00] <allyoutoo> adam___, depending what you want to do ssh is nice :P
[08:00] <blocky> komatose: run this and tell me how many results there are: cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf | grep autologin
[08:01] <adam___> I'd like to talk to them on the phone and watch me move the mouse and show them what to click if they get stuck
[08:01] <komatose> blocky: 4
[08:01] <allyoutoo> sunshine-api, and ask the question, no one can know if they can help without knowing whats wrong
[08:02] <blocky> komatose: does one say session? what does that line say
[08:02] <adam___> so what's the best way to give command my parents' computer so they can watch me move the mouse, etc
[08:02] <komatose> autologin-session=lightdm-autologin
[08:02] <allyoutoo> adam___, well I'd say teamviewer is the least hassle and so most productive
[08:02] <blocky> and the one with autologin username is blank?
[08:03] <adam___> ok.. I'll give it a try
[08:03] <komatose> blocky: no, it has the username there again
[08:03] <allyoutoo> lately I've been giving support using hangout session and screen sharing :P but it more like "go little up from there, no not that much, just a bit more left now.."
[08:04] <blocky> komatose: edit the file and remove it again, then close the file, then open the file again to see if it saved correctly
[08:04] <adam___> allyoutoo: I thought of that too
[08:04] <komatose> ok, let me see if i can scroll up and find what u said before..
[08:04] <sprink> Anyone know why apt-get update hangs on "connecting to archive.canonical.com" even though it's obviously up and navigatable via firefox?
[08:05] <allyoutoo> adam___, but yeah, depends what you want to achieve, if you have similar desktop setups then you might also share yours screen and show stuff that way
[08:05] <adam___> I wish you hangouts would allow you to give control to the other
[08:05] <allyoutoo> sprink, just to make sure, pingging it works?
[08:05] <adam___> I don't think that will be enough.. it's a first computer for them
[08:06] <sprink> allyoutoo: yup, I can even browse the repo in firefox
[08:06] <komatose> blocky: i entered the command, deleted the name, saved it.. now how do i close it?
[08:06] <allyoutoo> adam___, but yeah, teamviewer might be the way to go for now ^^
[08:06] <komatose> oh, wait... hol don...
[08:06] <adam___> can you install teamviewer via sudo apt-get?
[08:06] <sprink> 98% [Connecting to archive.canonical.com (2001:67c:1360:8c01::1b)]
[08:07] <adam___> or software
[08:07] <adam___> center
[08:07] <komatose> blocky: i don't think it saved it last time, but this time it did. let me try to reboot again?
[08:07] <allyoutoo> sprink, seems.. ipv6 :P
[08:07] <sprink> allyoutoo: that's what I figured, so I disabled ipv6 in sysctrl and rebooted.. still.. how do I force apt to not try and use ipv6?
[08:08] <blocky> komatose: sounds good. it sounds like it's automatically logging you into a broken session, so if you can prevent that autologin and choose a good session instead, that might fix it
[08:08] <allyoutoo> hmm I think there was some tool to set up apt using fastest mirrors to your location
[08:08] <komatose> i am about to find out
[08:08] <allyoutoo> sprink, maybe running it would find some working set up :)
[08:08] <sprink> allyoutoo: I did that, it only changes some of the repos
[08:08] <komatose> blocky: THANK YOU
[08:08] <komatose> :)
[08:08] <sprink> not the partner one
[08:08] <komatose> those other sessions need to be gotten rid of. but i'll deal with that tomorrow.
[08:09] <blocky> komatose: did it work?
[08:09] <komatose> yes.
[08:09] <komatose> logged into lubuntu. it's just as i left it before all hell happened.
[08:09] <allyoutoo> sprink, far fetched but you aren't running our of HDD space are you?
[08:09] <blocky> cool. i had no idea lubuntu even had a nexus 7 session, let alone that it was severely broken
[08:10] <komatose> yeah me either.
[08:10] <komatose> that's why i was like hey, i ididn't know all these were here.. then clicked it and logged into it. big mistake. don't do that.
[08:10] <blocky> komatose: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:11] <blocky> or what version of lubuntu rather
[08:11] <komatose> lubuntu 13.10
[08:11] <blocky> ah okay
[08:11] <sprink> allyoutoo: na
[08:11] <hddmonster> Hey there my wireless connecting so hard, its slow and usually drops. Reconnecting hardly again. I updated backports-3.13-1.tar.xz. And my kernel is 3.11.0-15-generic. Ubuntu 13.10 64bit. Wireless adaptor is Qualcomm Atheros AR9485.
[08:11] <komatose> does lubuntu have LTS versions?
[08:12] <blocky> i just found this quickly by searching for how to remove a session from the lightdm session manager, not sure if it's applicable http://askubuntu.com/questions/81161/how-to-remove-session-entries-from-lightdm
[08:12] <blocky> komatose: don't know, i'm running unity 14.04 alpha
[08:12] <komatose> oh, i see.
[08:13] <sprink> allyoutoo: fixed it.. disabled ipv6 lookups in /etc/gai.conf
[08:13] <sprink> thanks for the help
[08:13] <komatose> bookmarked that link. thanks for the help
[08:13] <komatose> time for bed.
[08:13] <allyoutoo> sprink, glad you got it fixed :)
[08:14] <hddmonster> ?
[08:14] <hddmonster> Would you help me guys=
[08:14] <allyoutoo> Hmm I might as well remind people of my problem, so anyone know how to force all apps in gnome-shell use gtk theme for window decorations? now I get some adawaita/iris mix which is annoying
[08:16] <allyoutoo> hddmonster, looking into it..
[08:17] <hddmonster> allyoutoo: waitin for you..
[08:20] <hddmonster> Hey there my wireless connecting so hard, its slow and usually drops. Reconnecting hardly again. I updated backports-3.13-1.tar.xz. And my kernel is 3.11.0-15-generic. Ubuntu 13.10 64bit. Wireless adaptor is Qualcomm Atheros AR9485.
[08:21] <jj995> what is a really fast hard drive array that works well in Ubuntu?  things like Promise Pegasus2 R8 don't list Linux compatability
[08:21] <Seveas> jj995: I've never heard of a hard drive that doesn't work with Ubuntu
[08:22] <allyoutoo> hddmonster, does command "rfkill list" say anything related to your card?
[08:22] <jj995> Seveas: thanks
[08:22] <Seveas> jj995: but if you want fast, go SSG
[08:22] <Seveas> SSD*
[08:22] <allyoutoo> or RAMDisk :PP
[08:22] <hddmonster> allyoutoo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6901964/
[08:24] <nocturnal_> should i use an AMD chip for Ubuntu or an Intel Chip?
[08:24] <nightfly> doesn't matter
[08:24] <allyoutoo> hddmonster, http://www.emmolution.org/?p=253 could this be any help?
[08:24] <nocturnal_> nightfly: are you sure?
[08:24] <hddmonster> this is for 12.04 and older...
[08:25] <hddmonster> but already wrote this page..
[08:25] <nightfly> nocturnal_: Unless you have a very, very specific need for a specific implementation of a processor extension it doesn't matter
[08:26] <allyoutoo> hddmonster, well you can look into ndiswrapper (if its still used anywhere, not sure :P )
[08:26] <Seveas> nocturnal_: in general I would use Intel, AMD is power hungry.
[08:26] <Seveas> but that has nothing to do with Ubuntu or not
[08:28] <hddmonster> ...
[08:35] <Busybyeski> howdy folks! i'm using windows partitioning tool to make space for a dual-boot. should i format the partition to any sort of filesystem or just leave it blank for the installer to handle?
[08:36] <Seveas> Busybyeski: just leave it blank. In fact, you don't need to partition in advance at all, the installer can do it for you
[08:36] <Busybyeski> i was having trouble with the MFT in windows being fragmented so i couldn't shrink the partition
[08:37] <Busybyeski> it was considered an "unmovable file" which had fragments on both ends of the drive
[08:38] <Busybyeski> but now that i have free space at the end of the drive, just try the installer again?
[08:38] <Busybyeski> or now that it's "unallocated" in
[08:38] <Busybyeski> disk management
[08:39] <Busybyeski> i'll give it a shot and report back :o
[08:40] <jj995> is there a way to check if a file is in the RAM cache?
[08:40] <Seveas> jj995: not that I know of, why?
[08:44] <jj995> Seveas: I'm just trying to do some performance tests, and it would be nice if I could check what is in the cache and maybe clear it before re-running tests
[08:44] <jj995> I just got burned by reporting too good to be true performance results due to OS file caching
[08:44] <serg_> hallo
[08:45] <serg_> test jemand da?
[08:46] <serg_> z
[08:46] <Seveas> jj995: you should always run tests but with a hot and cold cache
[08:46] <Seveas> to clear the cache: echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[08:46] <Seveas> !de | serg_
[08:52] <wiiguy> hello, i have a android stick, where i 9nstalled li9nux on, but because wifi di not work, i bought a usb to rj-45, but it seems it does not work on it(it does work on the android part) what can i do ?
[08:53] <dupingping> hi
[08:53] <dupingping> what is the best docky in the world?
[08:53] <Maaz> usb 3
[08:55] <CustomizeDistro> Morning! How can i customize an ubuntu installation with specific destkop configurations and applications installed?
[08:55] <Seveas> CustomizeDistro: you mean creating a custom install CD?
[08:56] <DwarfDefender> any picture viewers in ubuntu that can browse throught zip files?
[08:58] <Devil> hi
[09:00] <nightfly> comix
[09:02] <ttal> hey all
[09:04] <ttal> guys im on ubuntu 12.04 and have a FujiXerox DocuPrint M205b, im trying to get it to work but no luck yet. Does anyone know how I would get it to work, or a generic driver that would work with it?
[09:06] <CustomizeDistro> Seveas: yes
[09:06] <Gallomimia> from this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Empathy i get errors with unable to locate: telepathy-butterfly libtelepathy-farsight0 python-tpfarsight i'm not even sure what they are but i want to get empathy set up for a lot more accounts than are offered. icq and some others. i guess my old msn messenger account needs to be setup for windows live
[09:10] <Seveas> CustomizeDistro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[09:13] <CustomizeDistro> Seveas: can this be applied to lubuntu? Does Ubuntu Customization Kit do this as well? Or is it just for creating live CDs...not install CDs?
[09:15] <Seveas> CustomizeDistro: I don't know about lubuntu but see no reason it shouldn't work
[09:16] <Seveas> and this one applies to the live/install combo cds, there are other wikipages for server and alternate install
[09:17] <CustomizeDistro> Seveas: what about Ubuntu Customization Kit?
[09:21] <Busybyeski> ok i'm to the point where it's trying to partition now.. it wants me to drag a slider to allocate drive space between my operating systems.  however, this only "includes" ubuntu 13.10 and ubuntu, to the total sum of the drive space i unallocated in windows
[09:21] <Busybyeski> when i look at the partitions in gparted, one is ext4 and one is linux-swap
[09:22] <adam___> I install teamviewer using my account on my parents' computer
[09:22] <adam___> when I run it, it works fine
[09:22] <adam___> when I log out and log in as one of them, it can't connect and quits after about 5 seconds
[09:22] <adam___> any ideas?
[09:24] <gordonjcp> adam___: your basic problem there is teamviewer
[09:24] <wiiguy> hello, i have a android stick, where i 9nstalled li9nux on, but because wifi di not work, i bought a usb to rj-45, but it seems it does not work on it(it does work on the android part) what can i do ?
[09:24] <Guest33103> is it possible to manually change the lsb_release Description ID?
[09:25] <adam___> gordonjcp: so what's your suggestion for remote desktop help for my parents?
[09:25] <gordonjcp> adam___: no idea, I've never found a need for remote desktops
[09:25] <adam___> people here pointed me at teamviewer
[09:25] <adam___> lucky you
[09:25] <gordonjcp> adam___: it's a proprietary app and not packaged by Ubuntu, so really your only option is to contact whoever produces it
[09:26] <adam___> I tried Empathy but had issues connecting
[09:26] <adam___> it has a share your desktop option
[09:26] <gordonjcp> I just can't see why that would be useful
[09:26] <adam___> my parents are old
[09:26] <gordonjcp> and?
[09:27] <adam___> they need to be on the phone with me and watch me move the mouse to where things are
[09:27] <gordonjcp> why?
[09:27] <adam___> I just said. Because they are old
[09:27] <gordonjcp> adam___: what's age got to do with it?
[09:28] <adam___> add the fact that they haven't used a computer before
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[09:28] <Kaz_> Hello, can someone help me please? after a few days messing up trying to boot in UEFI Ubuntu USB, i managed! now im trying to install it and the progress bar stopped about 2/3 .. i got some message in the box details saying it requested a quitting and stuffs
[09:28] <gordonjcp> I'm guessing they're functionally literate?
[09:28] <adam___> more or less
[09:28] <adam___> they need to be able to click on something and start a google hangout session with relatives
[09:28] <Shutterstrom> maybe not a strict Ubuntu question, but: How can i configure Samba to access the folder from my windows computer when the folder is owned by root? I want the ownership to look like this: sudo chown root:root -R /share/ but when I have it like this I can't access the share from windows.
[09:28] <adam___> watch some content
[09:29] <adam___> and read emails
[09:29] <gordonjcp> so, tell them what to do
[09:29] <adam___> maybe see some attached photos in those
[09:29] <adam___> I do
[09:29] <gordonjcp> okay, so they can do it then
[09:29] <adam___> but I know there will be a time when I will have to do something on the computer for them
[09:30] <gordonjcp> like what?
[09:30] <adam___> find a lost download of a picture, find something online, make something work on a website they never saw before
[09:30] <adam___> a ton of stuff
[09:31] <adam___> so lets get back to the subject of remote assistance on ubuntu, mainly sharing a desktop
[09:31] <adam___> that's my question, nevermind why I need to do it
[09:32] <Busybyeski> any ideas? the only ubuntu i have "installed" right now is live: http://imgur.com/ghhS0Vu.png
[09:32] <oshanz> pls help. is it possible to scan remot pc from clamav (SSH).
[09:34] <geek_jose> hi, for ubuntu server what is the channel?
[09:35] <Shutterstrom> geek_jose: I'm not sure if there's a specific chanel for ubuntu server, but I have been using this chanel and I only have Ubuntu server.
[09:35] <Shutterstrom> geek_jose: So fire away and give it a go. :)
[09:35] <geek_jose> ok thanks Shutterstrom
[09:35] <Shutterstrom> np
[09:36] <n2deep> the channel is simply #ubuntu-server
[09:37]  * n2deep face palms
[09:37] <wiiguy> hello, i have a android stick, where i 9nstalled li9nux on, but because wifi di not work, i bought a usb to rj-45, but it seems it does not work on it(it does work on the android part) what can i do ??
[09:38] <Kaz_> anybody? the last info say "ubuntu AptDaemon: INFO: Quitting was requested. / ubuntu CRON[30445]: (root) CMD (cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)" and the progress is just stopped since (about 2/3)
[09:38] <adam___> I install teamviewer using my account on my parents' computer
[09:38] <adam___> 1:22 AM <adam___> when I run it, it works fine
[09:38] <adam___> 1:22 AM <adam___> when I log out and log in as one of them, it can't connect and quits after about 5 seconds
[09:38] <adam___> 1:22 AM <adam___> any ideas?
[09:39] <instigator> Greetings. Is a servername the same as a hostname?
[09:40] <nightfly> can be
[09:46] <wiiguy> hello, i have a android stick, where i 9nstalled li9nux on, but because wifi di not work, i bought a usb to rj-45, but it seems it does not work on it(it does work on the android part) what can i do ?
[09:47] <pietro10> Hi. On KDE, all GTK+ apps except firefox-trunk for some reason are not rendering fonts properly, even though gtk[23]-engines-oxygen is set. How do I fix this? Thanks.
[09:52] <str3ss> Hello / Bonjour
[09:55] <Seveas> Hello str3ss
[09:55] <str3ss> hello seveas how are you ?
[09:57] <wiiguy> hello, i have a android stick, where i 9nstalled li9nux on, but because wifi di not work, i bought a usb to rj-45, but it seems it does not work on it(it does work on the android part) what can i do ??
[10:01] <str3ss> sorry wiiguy i dont help you :x
[10:01] <Vpex> wiiguy: lsusb and find what chipset it is
[10:01] <str3ss> cant*
[10:01] <wiiguy> dm9601
[10:01] <wiiguy> seems to be
[10:02] <starbuck> hello, is it possible to attach a usb hd to my server and let it sleep when not needed, if needed bring it up?
[10:02] <wiiguy> str3ss that is okay :)
[10:03] <str3ss> ok :)
[10:03] <Vpex> wiiguy: I think your going to need to compile a kernel with that driver or you could insmod it in
[10:03] <Seveas> starbuck: you could unmount it
[10:03] <adam___> so to solve the teamviewer issue, make sure you sudo -s first before installing it
[10:04] <str3ss> I have a questions too , How remove bluez ? without removing dependencies (gdm )
[10:04] <wiiguy> vpex to compile it i will need additional software, but i dont have any internet on it :p, can you tell me step by step how to do it ?
[10:04] <Seveas> starbuck: and apparently you can also power down the usb port (unmount first though!) http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4702216/controlling-a-usb-power-supply-on-off-with-linux
[10:05] <Busybyeski> should a swap partition be primary or logical?
[10:06] <gordonjcp> Busybyeski: makes no difference
[10:06] <Vpex> starbuck: the firmware in the drive should park the head after inactivity
[10:07] <starbuck> Seveas: i don't want to unmount it or power it down, at least not manually... i want something like acpi to shut it down automatically if not needed and power it back on if needed
[10:09] <Vpex> starbuck: smart tools should handle it
[10:13] <wiiguy> whn im mtrying to compile it says "make *** /lib/modules/3.0.36+/build: no such file or dierctory. Stop."
[10:14] <Vpex> wiiguy: you need build-essential and linux-headers-generic
[10:14] <wiiguy> how will i get taht without internet ?
[10:15] <wiiguy> for arm*
[10:16] <Busybyeski> how do you chat on irc without internet?
[10:16] <wiiguy> this is my pc
[10:16] <wiiguy> not my android stick
[10:17] <Vpex> wiiguy: does the stick detect the interface or not?
[10:17] <wiiguy> it had detected the NIC yes
[10:17] <wiiguy> but wont connect
[10:17] <wiiguy> has* detected
[10:17] <Vpex> via network manager or something else?
[10:18] <wiiguy> a window caled "network connections"
[10:18] <wiiguy> called*
[10:19] <Vpex> oh so network manager, terminal ifconfig and see whats there
[10:21] <wiiguy> 1 sec, gonna connect it direct to this screen
[10:25] <wiiguy> eth0 Link encap:ethernet  HWaddr *00:e0:4c:54:44:57
[10:25] <wiiguy> inet6 addr : fe80::2e0:4cff:fe53:4458/64 Scope:Link
[10:26] <wiiguy> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICATST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[10:26] <wiiguy> RX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overuns:0 frame:0
[10:26] <Guest81912> hi
[10:27] <wiiguy> TX packets:23 errors0 dropped:6 overruns:0 carrier:0
[10:27] <wiiguy> collisions:0 txquelen:1000
[10:27] <wiiguy> RX bytes:142 (1142.0B) TX butes:4414 (4.4KB)
[10:28] <bekks> Use a pastebin
[10:28] <wiiguy> bekks sorry
[10:28] <wiiguy> Vpex that si what it says about eth0
[10:29] <bekks> wiiguy: Pastebin it.
[10:29] <wiiguy> bekks i said sry !!!\
[10:29] <Vpex> wiiguy: if its just eth0 try "sudo iface eth0 dhcp" then "sudo ifup eth0"
[10:30] <wiiguy> let me get soem paper and a pen :p
[10:30] <bekks> wiiguy: Just use pastebin to make it readable please. Getting line per line in a chat log is pretty unreadable.
[10:30] <bekks> wiiguy: Thats why I asked you to use a pastebin.
[10:30] <wiiguy> oh ok
[10:30] <wiiguy> i thought you were angry :p
[10:30] <wiiguy> vpex actually there is a second part
[10:31] <Vpex> wiiguy: whats the interface name?
[10:31] <bekks> Vpex: eth0
[10:31] <wiiguy> lo
[10:31] <Unknown0BC> Greetings.
[10:32] <bekks> wiiguy: "lo" is unusable for network traffic.
[10:32] <Vpex> wiiguy: lo is useless have you tried the above commands?
[10:32] <wiiguy> so there is eth0 and lo
[10:32] <Unknown0BC> i'm trying to use the at command to call firefox with a specified webpage loaded at a certain time. But my at jobs don't seem to call any graphical user interface programs.
[10:33] <bekks> Unknown0BC: You need to provide all needed environment variables, like DISPLAY, and such.
[10:34] <Unknown0BC> bekks : so how should my command look ?
[10:35] <Unknown0BC> I tried : at> firefox http://webpage.example.com
[10:36] <root_> mochekis
[10:36] <Guest85567> salut tous
[10:36] <bekks> Unknown0BC: you need to srite a script that sets all needed environment vars, and then run that script through at.
[10:37] <Guest85567> what ?
[10:37] <Unknown0BC> that much for a simple quick command eh ?
[10:37] <Unknown0BC> :\
[10:37] <wiiguy> im getting iface command not found
[10:38] <Guest85567> apt-get upgrade erreur w3af :/
[10:38] <bekks> wiiguy: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[10:38] <bekks> !fr | Guest85567
[10:38] <Guest85567> this is my problem
[10:39] <bekks> !details | Guest85567
[10:39] <Guest85567> ok
[10:42] <hddmonster> Hey there! I have Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter. Adapter kernel is backports-3.13-1. Linux kernel is 3.11.0-15-generic. I have ubuntu 13.10 64bit. My connection usually drops and reconnecting so hard. It's not stable and slow. Signal level is low and modem is near of me. Would you help?
[10:52] <foxboxer> hey all
[11:04] <Unknown0BC> Cool, I found Gnome schedule to manage at jobs, if you want an x application to run you just tick a box in it. No writing scripts :D
[11:13] <callipygous> I'm trying to install the linux-source package, but it tries to fetch 3.2.0 not 3.8.0 ...
[11:13] <chemist^> callipygous, have you updated your sources list?
[11:14] <callipygous> as I want to compile my own kernel, but for some reason it's trying to fetch an older kernel
[11:14] <callipygous> hmm, probably not
[11:14] <callipygous> what do I do?  I'm not familiar with debian style sources lists
[11:16] <chemist^> sudo apt-get update
[11:18] <bullicon> hey
[11:19] <callipygous> I did that recently
[11:19] <chemist^> recently?
[11:20] <chemist^> you need to update your list every time you want to install or upgrade something
[11:20] <chemist^> at least, that's how people thought me :)
[11:20] <callipygous> ah
[11:20] <chemist^> i get new updates at a daily basis almost
[11:21] <Busybyeski> how do i manage this alt-tab system?
[11:21] <callipygous> I've tried to install linux-source-3.8.0 but it only seems to create an empty directory in /usr/src
[11:25] <callum_> Hi
[11:28] <chemist^> !details Busybyeski
[11:28] <chemist^> !details | Busybyeski
[11:29] <Busybyeski> i'm reading about it now: unity follows the lead of os x and alt tab moves from application to application instead of window to window. is there any way to alter this default?
[11:29] <bekks> Busybyeski: Where do you read that actually?
[11:29] <chemist^> Busybyeski, i personally don't like unity that much, i installed xfce4 on my Ubuntu
[11:30] <Busybyeski> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2084388&page=3
[11:30] <Busybyeski> is gnome totally out of the picture these days?
[11:31] <bekks> Busybyeski: Basically yes.
[11:32] <callipygous> How do I get my current kernel source?
[11:32] <Busybyeski> isn't xfce what gives xubuntu the x?
[11:45] <chemist^> Busybyeski, no, Xubuntu comes with preinstalled applications that work fine with xfce... i did not install all that stuff...just the Desktop Enviroment (xFce4)
[11:45] <chemist^> using gnome applications with no issues whatsoever
[11:48] <alainus> i have a directory which belongs to the www-data group, and my user is in that group, but i'm getting permission denied for creating files in that directory. any ideas?
[11:49] <hitsujiTMO> alainus: did you relog after adding yourself to that group?
[11:49] <kennygengrik> A program stopped responding in Ubuntu and greyed out, then the program start working again but remained greyscale. How do I restore colour to my program without restarting it?
[11:50] <alainus> hitsujiTMO, yes i've had the directory like that for some time now
[11:50] <alainus> i'm just logging in to find this out now
[11:50] <hitsujiTMO> aladilas: is it group writable?
[11:50] <alainus> ahh, that i don't know.
[11:50] <alainus> let me check
[11:51] <alainus> hitsujiTMO,  drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 Jan 10 20:07 icons
[11:51] <alainus> it seems not ?
[11:51] <Ben64> user group everyone, so nope, not group writable
[11:52] <hitsujiTMO> alainus: nope            you should chmod g+ws it
[11:52] <alainus> thanks hitsujiTMO
[11:53] <fabiobrn> Hi all
[11:53] <fabiobrn> I'm on ubuntu 12.04 64bit. I've manually installed fglrx proprietary driver in 2012 (version 8.970) downloaded from ATI website. Today the update manager propose me to update to 13.101. Restricted driver window show me that I correctly have the "fglrx" proprietary driver installed and working. One question: should I discard this update and use  manual update only? (AFAIK manual fglrx installation should be only updated manually, am 
[11:54] <hitsujiTMO> fabiobrn: what card do you have?
[11:54] <fabiobrn> asus eah4830
[11:54] <fabiobrn> *radeon HD**** series
[11:55] <hitsujiTMO> fabiobrn: thats only supported by the legacy driver. don't upgrade
[11:56] <fabiobrn> hitsujiTMO ok, thanks
[12:00] <fabiobrn> hitsujiTMO eventually, if a new supported driver version for my card will be released from ATI, should I perform manual update, right? ('cause update manager could broken my manual installation)
[12:00] <hitsujiTMO> fabiobrn: ati have dropped support so there will be no update. stick with the driver you have
[12:01] <fabiobrn> hitsujiTMO ok, thank you very much
[12:03] <Siegel-> haai. just installed 12.04 wireless driver is not installed. how do i identify my hardware and install the driver? i see the antenna is working because the bluetooth mark is lit
[12:03] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, does that mean if i want to use ubuntu on a new computer best not to buy ATI graphics?
[12:03] <chemist^> Siegel-, lshw, lspci, lsusb
[12:03] <cfhowlett> Siegel-, bluetooth and wifi are 2 different things - unreleated
[12:03] <Siegel-> chemist^: which one do i type into terminal? the entire line?
[12:03] <chemist^> no
[12:03] <Siegel-> cfhowlett: ok
[12:03] <chemist^> what kind of wireless adapter do you have?
[12:03] <chemist^> usb? pci?
[12:04] <Siegel-> right now im using a cable
[12:04] <Siegel-> a regular internet cable
[12:04] <Siegel-> its an older computer. im not sure what the adapter is
[12:04] <chemist^> is it a USB dongle?
[12:04] <chemist^> or an internal adapter?
[12:04] <Siegel-> i dont know what an adapter is sorry
[12:04] <chemist^> lol
[12:04] <chemist^> the wireless card/adapter
[12:05] <chemist^> device
[12:05] <Siegel-> its not usb
[12:05] <Siegel-> its internal
[12:05] <bekks> Siegel-: It still may be an internal USB device.
[12:05] <Siegel-> i doubt it
[12:05] <chemist^> ok...if you issue the command "sudo lshw"
[12:05] <Siegel-> ive had this problem before
[12:05] <chemist^> you'll see everything that's in your computer
[12:05] <chemist^> search for the wireless card
[12:06] <chemist^> it should give you a name, model and driver
[12:06] <Siegel-> i see ok
[12:06] <kaligne> Hi there. I am trying to connect to my wpa protected network from command line. At some pint I used the wpa_supplicant command  ($ wpa_supplicant -B -i eth1 -D wext -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf)  and got this error: " ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument " . Anyone knows about it, what does it mean?
[12:06] <bekks> Siegel-: Pastebin: lshw -c network
[12:06] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: always best to stay clear of ati. worst of the top 3 when it comes to driver support
[12:06] <chemist^> kaligne, there is no space between -c and /etc
[12:07] <chemist^> hitsujiTMO, so what...nvidia? gigabyte?
[12:07] <hitsujiTMO> chemist^: intel or nvidia
[12:07] <bekks> chemist^: gigabyte has no "own" graphic adapters.
[12:07] <chemist^> intel is expensive :P
[12:07] <Siegel-> bekks: chemist^ is it the broadcom thing?
[12:07] <bekks> Siegel-: We dont know what you see.
[12:07] <bekks> Siegel-: Pastebin it.
[12:07] <bekks> !pastebin | Siegel-
[12:07] <chemist^> Siegel-, probably... you should pastebin the output
[12:08] <fabiobrn> hitsujiTMO Just out of curiosity, I was checking the ATI official download page. Seems that the latest driver it's available for HD4000 series (PCI express card, like mine) on linux 32/64 bit. http://support.amd.com/it-it/download/desktop/legacy?product=Legacy2&os=Linux%20x86_64
[12:08] <chemist^> Siegel-, install pastebinit .... sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[12:08] <chemist^> and than do: sudo lshw | pastebinit
[12:08] <kingfisher64> what would be the best way to make /var/www/ folder writable by non super user? At present I'm gksudo nautilus - ing in to copy/paste projects. Many thanks
[12:09] <Siegel-> ok i cant seem o copy it hold on
[12:09] <hitsujiTMO> fabiobrn: ahh sorry, maybe i'm wrong then, i though 13.X was current mainstream
[12:09] <kaligne> chemist^ I actually tried with and without spaces after each argument, the output result remains the same :(
[12:09] <chemist^> Siegel-, sorry.... first install pastebinit like i wrote... than do "sudo lshw -c network | pastebinit"
[12:09] <bekks> kingfisher64: You dont write to that folder as normal user. Create a subdirectory, and set permissions to 775 youruser:www-data to that folder.
[12:10] <Siegel-> chemist^: im using pastebin. just a second
[12:10] <hitsujiTMO> fabiobrn: whats the exact packagename thats updating? (fglrx-legacy)?
[12:10] <chemist^> kaligne, why do you use that kind of method to connect to it? why not use /etc/network/interfaces and just append the lines ssid and wpa-psk ?
[12:10] <Siegel-> chemist^: here is what it says for network: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6902838/
[12:10] <bekks> Siegel-: Thats no wireless adapter.
[12:10] <chemist^> this doesn't seem lika a wireless card
[12:11] <fabiobrn> kingfisher fglrx fglrx-amdccle fglrx-dev
[12:11] <chemist^> Siegel-, are you sure your computer has a wireless adapter at all? :)
[12:11] <kingfisher64> by subdirectory I take it you mean a project? I've got at present a website named "pm" in there and my username is phil_c64 so it would just be "phil_c64:www-data /var/www/pm" bekks? Thank you.
[12:11] <fabiobrn> kingfisher don't worry, I'm not intend to update by now. I'll wait next LTS to reinstall Ubuntu and latest catalyst.
[12:11] <chemist^> Siegel-, please pastebin the whole "sudo lshw" .... it's much easier to use pastebinit than to copy/paste everything
[12:12] <Siegel-> chemist^: well i used to use it.. for like 4 years and i had internet so im pretty sure i should work somehow
[12:12] <Siegel-> chemist^: ok
[12:12] <chemist^> install pastebinit (sudo apt-get install pastebinit) .. and than do: sudo lshw | pastebinit
[12:12] <chemist^> and paste me the URL that it gives you
[12:13] <Siegel-> alright
[12:14] <Siegel-> chemist^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6902862/
[12:14] <chemist^> kaligne, i had similar issues... i just added the interface in the /etc/network/interfaces and it worked... seems like it configures wpa_supplicant by itself or something, you just need to specify the essid and the password
[12:14] <hitsujiTMO> fabiobrn: next lts will not contain a fglrx driver for that card. you will be on the open radeon driver
[12:14] <chemist^> Siegel-,  product: BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
[12:14] <Siegel-> chemist^: how do i install it?
[12:15] <chemist^> are you sure it's not installed already?
[12:15] <DarkKnightCZ> hi, i have this problem that started few weeks ago... every other "volume keys" press works as mute (so if i press "volume up" key several times,  it works likethis -> "volume up, mute, volume up, mute, volume up, mute..."), does anyone encountered this too?
[12:15] <Siegel-> chemist^: how do i check?
[12:15] <chemist^> Siegel-, turn the thing on and see if it works? :P
[12:15] <Siegel-> chemist^: maybe i only need to activate it
[12:15] <Siegel-> chemist^: thats what ive been doing. it doesnt. thats what i said before.
[12:15] <fabiobrn> hitsujiTMO no manual installation is possibile?
[12:15] <bekks> It is already "installed".
[12:16] <Siegel-> chemist^: its happened to me before that i had to install/activate the driver after reinstalling th OS
[12:16] <bekks> Siegel-: The driver "wl" is already installed for that wifi device. Pull the cable and enable the wifi connection in network manager.
[12:16] <bekks> Siegel-: You dont need to reinstall an OS for getting a wifi driver to work.
[12:16] <hitsujiTMO> fabiobrn: no. fglrx legacy requires an older kernel and older xorg. 12.04.0 is the last ubuntu to contain the support for fglrx-legacy
[12:16] <phil24789> hi
[12:16] <Siegel-> bekks: i didnt do it for that reason.
[12:17] <chemist^> Siegel-, issue the command: "iwconfig | pastebinit"
[12:17] <chemist^> without the quotes
[12:17] <chemist^> and "ifconfig | pastebinit" as well
[12:17] <bekks> Better paste: ifconfig -a | pastebinit
[12:17] <sohaeb> why is this channel called UBuntu-unregistered ?
[12:18] <fabiobrn> hitsujiTMO what a pity.
[12:18] <cfhowlett> sohaeb, it's not.  it's #ubuntu
[12:18] <Siegel-> chemist^: for the first one it said im trying to send an empty document, no wireless extensions
[12:18] <sohaeb> cfhowlett: that's what I have :-/ "Mode #ubuntu [+CLcntzjf 5:10 #ubuntu-unregged]"
[12:18] <chemist^> Siegel-, do "ifconfig -a | pastebinit"
[12:18] <fabiobrn> kingfisher64 you should follow a tutorial for apache configuration and place the www directory in your users's home. (like I did)
[12:19] <sohaeb> cfhowlett: ok, found the glitch XD
[12:19] <hitsujiTMO> fabiobrn: the radeon driver will be coming with huge improvements in 14.04 tho, so it will be worth the upgrade and sticking to the open driver
[12:19] <fabiobrn> hitsujiTMO ok, I'll do that way.
[12:19] <Siegel-> chemist^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6902887/
[12:19] <kingfisher64> yeah, I did ideally want the home/websites/ as the project root fabiobrn
[12:20] <chemist^> Siegel-, once again... do you have a hardware button to enable/disable wireless on your laptop?
[12:20] <Siegel-> chemist^: i believe its fn+f2
[12:20] <bekks> Siegel-: Then verify it.
[12:20] <Siegel-> chemist^: it has the atenna mark on it in blue
[12:20] <JaneSmith> fm+f3 :)
[12:20] <bekks> Siegel-: Check the manual of the hardware then.
[12:21] <kingfisher64> aah, go it now. bekks sudo chown -R phil_c64:phil_c64 /var/www/projectname worked fine
[12:21] <Siegel-> chemist^: there is no other switch i could ever find on this computer to turn it on/off
[12:21] <chemist^> Siegel-, yeah...that's it... but the FN keys don't usually work in ubuntu... so you'd need to enable the wireless adapter in bios or in windows and then boot back in linux and it should be on
[12:22] <chemist^> at least, that's my experience with this kind of problem
[12:22] <chemist^> the easiest solution
[12:22] <fabiobrn> kingfisher64 try this http://joao.machado-family.com/2013/06/04/ubuntu-13-04-apache2-setup-public_html/
[12:22] <Siegel-> chemist^: the thing is, whenever i  use the fn combination it does turn my bluetooth on and off
[12:22] <chemist^> Siegel-, do you have dual-boot? (another OS installed on it) ?
[12:22] <Siegel-> and all the other fn functions work as well
[12:23] <Siegel-> chemist^: no
[12:23] <chemist^> Siegel-, well then
[12:23] <chemist^> enable it
[12:23] <hitsujiTMO> Siegel-: whats the output of: ls /sys/class/net
[12:23] <chemist^> usually it's ONE key for both wireless and bluetooth
[12:23] <kingfisher64> thanks fabiobrn I've bookmarked that.
[12:24] <chemist^> Siegel-, in my experience it was always 1 key for both adapters... i've never seen a laptop with separate bluetooth and wireless buttons
[12:25] <fabiobrn> kingfisher64 hope it help
[12:25] <kingfisher64> at present I've sorted it by the code up above, (as I'm a bit time restricted at present) but eventually I'll do it that way fabiobrn :)
[12:25] <chemist^> Siegel-, if you turn it on, does "ipconfig -a" give the same results as before? or does a new interface pop up in the output?
[12:25] <chemist^> Siegel-, interfaces are: example: eth1, wlan0, eth0 .. etc
[12:25] <Siegel-> chemist^: thats what im saying. thats why im sure its not working because the bluetooth is beuing turned on ad off
[12:25] <hitsujiTMO> Siegel-: whats the output of: ls /sys/class/net
[12:26] <kaligne> chemist^ : I cannot find any file named interface in the /etc/network folder though there is a interface.d folder. Do I have to create it manually?
[12:26] <chemist^> Siegel-, that doesn't make any sense... if you turn bluetooth on... you turn on wireless as well.
[12:26] <chemist^> kaligne, interfaceS
[12:26] <chemist^> : /etc/network/interfaces
[12:27] <Siegel-> chemist^: thats my point. wireless is not installed obviously
[12:27] <Siegel-> i just intalled b43 packages
[12:27] <chemist^> lol??
[12:27] <chemist^> Siegel-, do me a favour please... turn on your bluetooth as you say
[12:27] <Strassbury> Why the fuck cant i join the channel reddit?
[12:27] <Strassbury> WHY
[12:27] <hitsujiTMO> !language | Strassbury
[12:27] <Strassbury> I demand answers
[12:27] <Siegel-> chemist^: it is on
[12:28] <cfhowlett> Strassbury, reddit?  wrong channel and bad attitude will quickly get you bounced out of here
[12:28] <chemist^> Siegel-, and when it's turned on, do "ifconfig -a | pastebinit"
[12:28] <hitsujiTMO> Strassbury: nothing to do with us
[12:28] <Strassbury> bro
[12:28] <Siegel-> i just did
[12:28] <Strassbury> im chillin
[12:28] <Strassbury> but
[12:28] <Strassbury> why
[12:28] <Strassbury> cand i join the channel #reddit
[12:28] <chemist^> Siegel-, and do "pastebinit /sys/class/net" as well
[12:28] <cfhowlett> Strassbury, not our channel not our problem
[12:28] <hitsujiTMO> Strassbury: you'd have to ask a reddit op
[12:28] <Strassbury> So you only give a damn about yo stuff
[12:28] <Strassbury> ok
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !topic|Strassbury,
[12:29] <Strassbury> i see what you mean
[12:29] <Strassbury> i see
[12:35] <chemist^> i really like helping others with stuff i know... but i really don't like helping someone 20 minutes in vain (simply quits irc) .. i mean come on man
[12:35] <firefoxos> exit
[12:37] <fabiobrn> kingfisher64 Do not forget to check out this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP. there's a suggestion for "securing Apache"
[12:37] <Lope> I've been fiddling around trying to format a drive and now it won't format partitions with UDF, FAT or HFS+. I can however format the entire disk with a filesystem. I've tried zero-ing the first 1MB of the drive with DD. The last 1MB of the drive as well. I've tried formatting with fdisk and gparted as a msdos partition table and also tried with gpt with gparted. I get errors like "the partition is too small to format, 512KB min" when
[12:37] <Lope> I've made a 500GB partition! I've unplugged and replugged. not sure what else to try...?
[12:38] <bekks> Lope: What did you try, exactly?
[12:38] <fabiobrn> kingfisher64 gksudo "gedit /etc/apache2/ports.conf" and Change ports.conf so that it contains:  Listen 127.0.0.1:80  Save this file, and restart Apache (see above). Now Apache will serve only to your home domain, http://127.0.0.1 or http://localhost.
[12:41] <Lope> well first I tried formatting /dev/sdb1 with UDF, that worked, but the Mac laptop wouldn't read it. So I formatted the entire disk as UDF, then the Mac would read it, but I was told the person I'm helping wants partitions. So when I tried to format /dev/sdb1 as half the disk only again (was gonna try a diff version of UDF) suddenly the mkudffs didn't want to format /dev/sdb1 (only /dev/sdb) and neither can I format /dev/sdb1 with Fat
[12:41] <Lope> of HFS+. and as above I've tried destroying and recreating the partition table a few times in msdos and gpt formats.
[12:41] <bekks> Lope: Dont repeat that generic information.
[12:41] <bekks> Lope: What exactly did you try? What does "would read", "wouldnt format", etc mean, pleasE?
[12:41] <bekks> !details | Lope
[12:42] <fabiobrn> hitsujiTMO have a nice day, thanks for help :)
[12:44] <nidhimj22> i want to use 64 bit OS
[12:44] <nidhimj22> sorry! wrong tab :P
[12:44] <chemist^> Lope, have you tried using gparted?
[12:45] <atul> dev
[12:46] <Taylrox> Good afternoon all. I'm trying to make it so that I can close my lid and have my laptop output via HDMI. Now, I've gone into power manager and set it so that when lid is closed nothing happens but it still shuts down my HDMI display.
[12:46] <Taylrox> Any ideas?
[12:47] <chemist^> Taylor, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gnome-tweak-tool-a-tool-for-changing-specialised-or-advanced-gnome3-settings.html
[12:51] <pranavk> Is there any utility that lets you create multiple clipboards and then copy stuff to there and then paste from there. Eg : Ctrl + C + 1 copies to clipboard 1 and Ctrl + C + 2 copies to clipboard 2.
[12:52] <chemist^> pranavk, try glipper
[12:52] <chemist^> se if it's what you need
[12:52] <Lope> these are the steps I tried right now http://codepad.org/qhVu3UJw
[12:53] <chemist^> pranavk, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1319670
[12:54] <chemist^> Lope, why don't you use gpatred? it has a nice gui
[12:55] <Lope> I've tried it, has the same problem
[12:55] <chemist^> Lope, you should first unmount the partition you want to format...you know that right? =)
[12:55] <pranavk> chemist^: okay, thanks
[12:56] <web1bastler> Hello, I need some help with my old DAT 24 streamer on 13.10
[12:56] <chemist^> Lope, i've always used gparted... every time with success
[12:56] <bekks> web1bastler: So which problem are you facing?
[12:56] <Lope> chemist^: its not mounted. yes :)
[12:56] <chemist^> Lope, maybe it's corrupt?
[12:56] <chemist^> damaged (hardware)
[12:57] <web1bastler> I can't enable the hardware compression
[12:57] <chemist^> !details | web1bastler
[13:01] <web1bastler> I have a problem with my DAT drive and the mt command, I'm running ubuntu ver. 13.10. When I try to enable compression with mt -f /dev/st0 compression it tells me that the opereation is invalid, I get following output: mt: Invalid argument »»compression«« for »»operation««, I expected it to either give me a validation that it worked or some sort of action on my drive
[13:03] <bekks> web1bastler: "mt -f /dev/st0 compression 1" to enable it.
[13:04] <web1bastler> still not working
[13:04] <web1bastler> same error message
[13:05] <kaligne> chemist^ : yes that's the same, interfaces.d doesn't have any file inside  (sorry for the delay)
[13:11] <web1bastler> bekks: in the man page there are those operations: eof, weof, fsf, bsf, fsr, bsr, bsfm, fsfm, asf, seek, eom, rewind, offline, rewoffl, status, retension and erase
[13:11] <bekks> web1bastler: Then the mt command you are using doesnt support setting the compression.
[13:12] <sexyboy> hey, how do i stop apt from installing grub 2 automatically when sometihing grub related updates?
[13:12] <somsip> !pinning | sexyboy
[13:13] <sexyboy> i dont need pinning
[13:13] <web1bastler> bekks: the big problem of all that is, that to install the versions that have the operations, I have to uninstall mt first which is a part of cpio
[13:13] <sexyboy> i mean the deb scripts that install grub in my mbr every time i update something
[13:13] <sexyboy> i don't want it
[13:14] <bekks> sexyboy: grub2 isnt installed on and on, but reconfigured, which is necessary.
[13:14] <somsip> sexyboy: what version of ubuntu are you running, and what bootloader?
[13:14] <sexyboy> bekks, no, it installs in mbr
[13:14] <bekks> sexyboy: No, it doesnt.
[13:15] <sexyboy> bekks, yes it does. and it breaks my tc windows bootloader
[13:15] <bekks> sexyboy: It reconfigures grub. It doesnt reinstall.
[13:15] <k1l> sexyboy: it does not install. it just updates the entries with the scripts
[13:15] <bekks> sexyboy: No it doesnt...
[13:15] <sexyboy> don't lie to me, i know that it broke my tc bootloader
[13:15] <sexyboy> when i updated something
[13:15] <bekks> sexyboy: Because it _reconfigures_ grub.
[13:16] <sexyboy> yes, and rewrites mbr
[13:16] <sexyboy> i want it to stop
[13:16] <bekks> sexyboy: NO.
[13:16] <sexyboy> dumbasses
[13:17] <web1bastler> bekks: if i want to uninstall cpio, it tells me that it also needs to uninstall initramfs and the ubuntu-system
[13:18] <tradeinfo> hi
[13:19] <tradeinfo> exit
[13:19] <belgianguy> I want my squeezeslave service to use dmix rather than steal the soundcard and hogging it
[13:19] <belgianguy> how can I configure that, or what do I need to look into?
[13:20] <bekks> web1bastler: Yes, that is expected.
[13:21] <web1bastler> bekks: so what should I do now?
[13:21] <bekks> web1bastler: Install a version of mt cpabale of dealing with compression manually, e.g.
[13:24] <web1bastler> bekks: I've installed a old version of mt-st now and it seems to be working!
[13:24] <bekks> web1bastler: Great :)
[13:24] <web1bastler> bekks: yep, it's working! Thanks for your help!
[13:26] <navneet> how to fix terminator problem by terminal ?
[13:26] <cfhowlett> navneet, see John Connor ...
[13:26] <cfhowlett> navneet, nah, sorry.  not helpful at all
[13:27] <cfhowlett> navneet, what exact problem?
[13:27] <bekks> navneet: Define "terminator problem" forst please.
[13:27] <bekks> !details | navneet
[13:27] <TJ-> ;) that actually made more sense to me than the question
[13:29] <navneet> cfhowlett: i was using terminator with 5 window... i forgot what change i did in setting. after it remove it by sudo apt-get remove terminator.. and install again but now when i open it ... than it open only for 1 second and close.
[13:30] <cfhowlett> navneet, I'm GUESSING it might be a configuration issue.  purge terminator and reinstall should fix.
[13:30] <bekks> navneet: Start terminator in terminal to get more messages.
[13:31] <navneet> cfhowlett: i did it 4 time // remove and install
[13:32] <aeon-ltd> navneet: purge
[13:32] <bekks> navneet: It isnt windows, you dont need to reinstall all over.
[13:32] <cfhowlett> bekks, "please proceed Mr. Bekks" ...
[13:33] <bekks> navneet: Which messages do you get when starting terminator in terminal?
[13:33] <navneet> aeon-ltd: what command for purge.. i am using mint 15. with lxde env
[13:33] <aeon-ltd> navneet: removing and installing only replaces the binaries and files needed to run. the configs stay, so whatever settings you had usually stays
[13:33] <bekks> !mint | navneet
[13:33] <bekks> navneet: If you are using mint, please seek the mint support. Thank you.
[13:34] <aeon-ltd> navneet: sudo apt-get purge terminator (if terminator is the same name as the package)
[13:35] <aeon-ltd> navneet: after this show hidden files in your home directory, look for a folder or file owned by terminator then delete them. check here if you're unsure about the files
[13:35] <bekks> aeon-ltd: HE is using mint, no ubuntu.
[13:35] <ubuntu___> hai
[13:36] <cfhowlett> ubuntu___, greetings
[13:37] <aeon-ltd> bekks: i'm aware, but if i can help resolve this now it saves hassle for everyone on support channels. If i cannot resolve this then the user should go to the appropriate channel
[13:37] <bekks> aeon-ltd: Resolvin support issues of other distros is just offtopic in here.
[13:37] <somsip> aeon-ltd: your approach is applauded, but all it does is fill this channel with off topic information. Feel free to help him in PM
[13:38] <MarkPaul> Excuse me, would anyone confirm that my message is visible, please?
[13:38] <Heishyn> your message is visible ;)
[13:38] <tomreyn> MarkPaul: no i won't
[13:39] <MarkPaul> Thanks Heishyn
[13:39] <chemist^> kaligne, it's a file not a folder; the file is called "interfaces" and it should be located in the folder "/etc/network" ... if you are using Ubuntu that is
[13:46] <knightshade> hi
[13:47] <cfhowlett> knightshade, greetings
[13:48] <Guest22763> Hi every body
[13:48] <Guest22763> I have a question
[13:48] <Guest22763> Is there anybody to help me?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !ask|Guest22763,
[13:48] <MarkPaul> Just ask
[13:48] <Guest22763> does any body here me?
[13:49] <indn1234> Hi
[13:49] <Guest22763> *hear
[13:49] <tomreyn> no but we can read what you type
[13:49] <cfhowlett> Guest22763, give details or no help.  telepaths have the day off so we don't know your issue/
[13:49] <otherj> how do i remove the landscape advert from motd but keep the sys info stuff? the old method of adding exclude_sysinfo_plugins=LandscapeLink to /etc/landscape/client.conf isn't working -- it still shows up
[13:50] <Guest22763> great!
[13:50] <Guest22763> I'm new to the channel
[13:50] <Guest22763> and I just wanted to test it.
[13:50] <Guest22763> thanks cfhowlett
[13:52] <MarkPaul> Can anybody tell me which processes should be restarted after killing everything except init in Ubuntu 10.04?
[13:53] <bekks> MarkPaul: You should reboot the server.
[13:54] <MarkPaul> Why so?
[13:54] <sohaeb> ok, If i type "exec i3" in .xinitrc file I login in automatically to i3wm. What do I type if I want to login to vanilla Ubuntu ?
[13:54] <bekks> MarkPaul: Thats the clean way to achieve what you want.
[13:54] <cfhowlett> MarkPaul, 10.04?  end of life ...
[13:54] <bekks> cfhowlett: 10.04 server is still supported.
[13:54] <sohaeb> cfhowlett: well I think he doesn't really care
[13:54] <cfhowlett> bekks, do'h!
[13:55] <MarkPaul> According to the topic it
[13:55] <MarkPaul> 's still supported
[13:55] <docmur> I'm trying to mount a cifs share, I have two ethernet interfaces in my computer, 192.168.1.105 and 192.168.1.107, I've tried to mount the shares with commands like:  mount -t cifs //192.168.1.105/Videos  /media/Videos -o guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,  I keep getting mount error(6): No such device or address
[13:55] <bekks> MarkPaul: Do you run 10.04 server or desktop?
[13:55] <docmur> I'm using the right addresses
[13:56] <MarkPaul> Actually on desktop right now, but I ask generally
[13:56] <bekks> MarkPaul: 10.04 isnt supported anymore.
[13:56] <loa> can somebody exaplain me what ubuntu init system?
[13:56] <bekks> MarkPaul: And the general solution has been told.
[13:56] <cfhowlett> !info init
[13:56] <bekks> !upstart | loa
[13:56] <loa> i see that sysv and systemd are active?
[13:56] <loa> right?
[13:56] <bekks> loa: systemd is not in use by ubuntu.
[13:57] <MarkPaul> Anyway, is there any place where it's possible to get a help about old versions which are already not supported?
[13:58] <bekks> MarkPaul: No. EOL versions are unsupported and dead.
[13:58] <TJ-> MarkPaul: One way that can be useful is "init 1" to go to single-user run-level, then "init 2" to switch into multi-user runlevel again
[13:59] <user2> test
[13:59] <sohaeb> docmur: using //ip.address/folder is not really good. Why don'y you use, "mount -t cifs -o user=abc,password=def ipaddress /folder/folder
[14:00] <sohaeb> user2: test success....
[14:00] <user2> sudo aptitude install porn
[14:00] <cfhowlett> user2, wrong place and improper command.
[14:00] <user2> haha
[14:00] <chemist^> :D lol
[14:01] <user2> just kidding guys
[14:02] <docmur> now i'm getting mount.cifs: bad UNC (ipaddress=192.168.1.105/Video)
[14:02] <bekks> docmur: "192.168.1.105/Video" is not an IP address.
[14:03] <docmur> right so how do i tell mount.cifs what folder to mount under that ip address
[14:03] <MarkPaul> Ok, so what will happen if I'll press SysRq combination with letter i? It shpuld kill everything without init which as far as I know should start some essential processes again, so why can I still see an output of  SysRq ang generally a TTY which also should be killed after doing it?
[14:03] <bekks> docmur: You have to ask sohaeb, I'd just use the //ipaddress/sharename approach.
[14:03] <Keroshin> So, I installed a program and upon attempting to use it, it screwed with certain display settiings, and now I can't see what I type on websites like Facebook and YouTube.
[14:03] <MarkPaul> Anyone could explain it?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> Keroshin, "a program" - could you even BE more vague?
[14:04] <Keroshin> Sorry.  I installed VBA express, and when I set it to fullscreen, upon attempting to run a ROM it crashed and now everything's weird.
[14:05] <Keroshin> Like, my toolbar up top is blue when it should be black, and I don't have my volume icon anymore.
[14:05] <Keroshin> All my programs are blue.
[14:05] <bekks> Keroshin: So restart you desktop environment.
[14:05] <Keroshin> How?
[14:05] <Boogeyman> have you tried restarting x, logging out, or rebooting?
[14:05] <Keroshin> Yes, I've attempted rebooting and logging out.
[14:06] <Keroshin> Still the same results.
[14:06] <Boogeyman> did you get a log of the output when it crashed?
[14:06] <mojtaba> Hi, I am doing a backup with rdiff-backup (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6901655/)  should I exclude /home/.ecryptfs and /run?
[14:06] <sohaeb> docmur: I stand corrected. Using your 1sst method is the correct one. Question now: Where able to navigate to that folder using your file manager or terminal ?
[14:07] <sohaeb> were*
[14:07] <Keroshin> No I didn't.  I'm a little new to Ubuntu.
[14:07] <docmur> yes, I made the symlink myself
[14:07] <Keroshin> I don't know if it's an issue with the graphics card or what.
[14:07] <Boogeyman> lol, i've been using for almost 6 years now and I just learned how to do that last week :)
[14:07] <docmur> These are logical volumns
[14:08] <Boogeyman> have you tried running it in a terminal?
[14:08] <Keroshin> ...Running VBA Express in a terminal?
[14:08] <Boogeyman> yeah, start it in the terminal
[14:08] <Boogeyman> when it crashes, it should spit out a bunch of crap in the term
[14:09] <Keroshin> I'd have to figure out the path to the program first.
[14:09] <Keroshin> But in the mean time, how do I fix my current problem?
[14:09] <Boogeyman> do you have a 'shortcut' to it?
[14:09] <Keroshin> Yes.
[14:09] <Boogeyman> well, first you need to figure out what caused it
[14:10] <mojtaba> Hi, I am doing a backup with rdiff-backup (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6901655/)  should I exclude /home/.ecryptfs and /run?
[14:10] <Boogeyman> right click on the shortcut and see what it says
[14:11] <Boogeyman> i havent used plain ubuntu in so long i cant remember what the option would be
[14:11] <Keroshin> Apparently Ubuntu uninstalled it.
[14:11] <MarkPaul> Let me ask again, why can I still see the output of processes in displayed TTY after killing everything with ALT+SysRQ+I ? Shouldn't the TTY also be killed (and actually restarted)?
[14:11] <sohaeb> docmur: ok the way I setup mine was, You use samba to make the share
[14:11] <sohaeb> docmur: then you use the command
[14:12] <Boogeyman> now thats weird, i've never heard of that happening before
[14:12] <Keroshin> That's what I'm saying, the whole damn thing is weird.
[14:12] <Keroshin> I've even got icons missing from the dashboard.
[14:12] <Keroshin> Home folder, settings.
[14:13] <Boogeyman> have you checked to see if your HDD is having issues?
[14:13] <Keroshin> I'm windows savvy, so I know how to check for that on Windows, but blah..
[14:14] <Keroshin> I'm probably looking at a restore from the looks of things..
[14:14] <Boogeyman> i just got through doing that myself when my graphics card decided to go poo
[14:15] <Keroshin> How do I do that myself without having to bring my comp somewhere?  I'm broke.  ._.
[14:15] <Boogeyman> are you dual booting?
[14:15] <Keroshin> No, just straight Ubuntu.
[14:15] <Boogeyman> do you still have the install disk?
[14:15] <reaga> im trying to install a desktop on my ubuntu server os, but i get this error Failed to fetch http://us-west-2.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/indicator-bluetooth/indicator-bluetooth_0.0.6+13.10.20131011-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb  403  Forbidden
[14:16] <Keroshin> No, the computer was given to me as a Christmas gift.  The computer belonged to a school.
[14:16] <zuli> Speaking test
[14:16] <sohaeb> docmur: This is what I used for the cifs command, "sudo mount -t cifs -o user=abc,password=def //ipAdress/folder /media/folder
[14:16] <Boogeyman> reaga, try pulling from a different server
[14:17] <reaga> Boogeyman: im new to linux, how would i do that
[14:17] <Boogeyman> do you have the bandwidth/time/data cap to download the install disk?
[14:17] <Keroshin> How big are we talking?
[14:17] <reaga> yeah probably
[14:17] <Keroshin> Gigabytes here?
[14:17] <Boogeyman> i think its only like 900mb
[14:17] <reaga> Boogeyman: so yeah i do
[14:17] <Keroshin> Oh, that's not bad.
[14:17] <koell> exabytes
[14:18] <Keroshin> It'll take awhile, but I could do it.
[14:18] <Keroshin> Now do I have to burn it to CD?
[14:18] <reaga> oh you werent talking to me
[14:18] <reaga> i feel sad now
[14:18] <koell> :(
[14:18] <koell> feel evil :)
[14:19] <Boogeyman> you can burn it to a cd or use a USB stick
[14:19] <Boogeyman> sorry reaga, i'm trying to talk to you both
[14:19] <reaga> anyone know how i change what the pull server is
[14:19] <chris__> hey, i have to update a 12.04 to current 13.10. can i do this directly or do i have to apply each version in between?
[14:19] <Boogeyman> er, well a dvd, it wont fit on a cd
[14:19] <Keroshin> I may just find a USB stick or something.
[14:19] <Boogeyman> unless you want to go with an older version
[14:20] <bekks> reaga: Change the servers used, in synaptic e.g.
[14:20] <Boogeyman> yeah, what bekks said
[14:20] <bekks> chris__: you have to update 12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10  -- nd ou should know that 13.04 is EOL already.
[14:20] <hitsujiTMO> chris__: you cannot jump directly to 13.10. Is there a particular reason why you need to update?
[14:21] <reaga> i dont know what synaptic is
[14:21] <Boogeyman> look in the applications menu
[14:21] <cfhowlett> chris__, *have to* update?
[14:21] <bekks> reaga: A graphical UI to your package management system.
[14:21] <chris__> hitsujiTMO, i wan't to use btrfs and the kernel of 12.04 seems pretty old to me
[14:22] <bekks> chris__: "seems"?
[14:22] <reaga> bekks: i have no graphical ui, thats what im trying to install
[14:22] <Boogeyman> oh...
[14:22] <reaga> im trying to install a desktop gui
[14:22] <bekks> chris__: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS enablement stack uses Kernel 3.11 currently.
[14:22] <hitsujiTMO> chris__: btrfs is not advisable to be used atm. but if you do want to use a lter kernel just use the saucy enablement stack in 12.04
[14:22] <cfhowlett> chris__, to get the latest kernel and other goodies: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:23] <hitsujiTMO> chris__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[14:23] <Boogeyman> http://askubuntu.com/questions/39922/how-do-you-select-the-fastest-mirror-from-the-command-line
[14:23] <Boogeyman> see if that works for you
[14:26] <Boogeyman> wow, my nick was still registered from 2 years ago, and i even remembered the password
[14:26] <Herold> Help I m trying to run ubuntu on a usb and not getting pass grub getting black screen and stall. (alienware 18 with dual GTX 765s
[14:26] <chris__> didn't know about the enablement stack. have to read into this. when would you advise to upgrade and when to use the enablement stack? it's my girlfriends laptop. not a server running on the internet.
[14:26] <k1l> chris__: use the 13.10 lts enablement kernel for 12.04 (12.04.4)
[14:26] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | herold
[14:27] <k1l> chris__: if you "just" need the newer kernel go with enablement stack.
[14:27] <MarkPaul> Is there something like restarting Ubuntu without rebooting for example with some low level keyboard shourcut?
[14:27] <janjaweed> which ultrabooks are preinstalled with ubuntu
[14:27] <bekks> janjaweed: None?
[14:27] <hitsujiTMO> chris__: wait for 14.04 to be released before considering an upgrade
[14:27] <bekks> janjaweed: You have to ask the vendor.
[14:27] <Herold> ubttu thanks will try
[14:28] <bekks> MarkPaul: No.
[14:28] <janjaweed> bekks: I've looked in the city here, no one vendor could help me with that, all of them are installed with Windows
[14:29] <bekks> janjaweed: So the answer is "None."
[14:30] <hitsujiTMO> janjaweed: dell, hp, asus, and others sell a handful of systems preinstalled with ubuntu. Their availability is geographically dependent tho
[14:30] <janjaweed> bekks: thank you for your consice answer
[14:30] <chris__> when i always installed updates am i on 12.04.4? apt source.list just referes to precise
[14:30] <FiremanEd> I think System76 may have a ultrabook of sorts?
[14:30] <hitsujiTMO> janjaweed: there's also system76
[14:32] <MarkPaul> Maybe is there any method to execute something when I can type in TTY but I can't quit the output of SysRq and the OS is alive? I'm inside the process, pressing enter after typing something just make me skiped to the next line.
[14:32] <bekks> chris__: Then just install the lts enablement package with "saucy" in the name.
[14:32] <bekks> chris__: 12.04 is supported until 2017.
[14:32] <janjaweed> hitsujiTMO: thank you for your replies, I'm checking system76
[14:33] <MarkPaul> Now I'm asking about 12.04, the problem seems to be universal
[14:34] <rabbitear_sdf> MarkPaul: yes mark paul, it is
[14:34] <rabbitear_sdf> MarkPaul: the problem is universal
[14:34] <MarkPaul> What exactly do you mean?
[14:35] <chris__> that is basically a kernel backport, isn't it? so i get the same btrfs support as if i updated to 13.10?
[14:35] <rabbitear_sdf> I will know, after you say whats going on MarkPaul ?
[14:35] <Boogeyman> does anyone know how to have a bash script do math? specifically (s / 60) % 60?
[14:35] <k1l> chris__: yes. kernel wise
[14:35] <hitsujiTMO> chris__: yes. its the same kernel and xorg as 13.10
[14:36] <chris__> great thanks for this tip. i'll go down that route
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> Boogeyman: x=5;y=$(($x * 10)); echo $y
[14:36] <k1l> chris__: and yes, 12.04.4 is the 4th "service pack" (point release). you get there with regular updates
[14:36] <rabbitear_sdf> thats what my x-wife used to say, 'does anyone know how or have a bash script to do math?
[14:37] <chris__> and when the next lts 14.04 is released i can directly update from lts to lts. that's nice :)
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: can you rephrase your question. maybe be more specific. It's difficult to understand what you are actually asking
[14:37] <Boogeyman> lucky, my ex wife just said "you're job is to agree with me even if i'm wrong"
[14:38] <IdleOne> and this is ubuntu related how?
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> chris__: 14.04 is out in the 04th month of the 14th year of this century
[14:38] <rabbitear_sdf> I lied tho Boogeyman, I never had a real wife before
[14:38] <Boogeyman> lol
[14:38] <MarkPaul> As I said above, I can't leave the process in TTY which is SysRq or some errors output. What can I do then - I was thinking about restarting it, but I can't reboot the machine, the RAM memory is full and I can't access it but I need. Do you know any solution for that?
[14:39] <rabbitear_sdf> :)
[14:39] <Boogeyman> you've had a fake one?
[14:39] <rabbitear_sdf> Boogeyman: yes
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: try: ctrl _ d
[14:39] <Boogeyman> ;)
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: try: ctrl + d
[14:39] <rabbitear_sdf> Boogeyman: pretend ones
[14:39] <IdleOne> Boogeyman: rabbitear_sdf Please stay on topic, if you want to chit chat you are welcome to join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> !reisub | MarkPaul or is this something you need?
[14:40] <rabbitear_sdf> IdleOne: is there an offtopic ubuntu gig going on ?
[14:40] <MarkPaul> I've already tried almost all combinations with CTRL and they don't work
[14:40] <Wind-Storm> Hello! Anyone have a Raidsonic 4210 NAS?
[14:40] <rabbitear_sdf> IdleOne: because there's to many people in this room for converation
[14:41] <bunker> ?
[14:41] <bunker> ?
[14:41] <IdleOne> rabbitear_sdf: this channel is not for conversation it is for ubuntu support.
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> Wind-Storm: what has a  Raidsonic 4210 NAS got to do with ubuntu?
[14:41] <chris__> is it okay to only use the linux-generic-lts-saucy to get the new kernel or is it advised to also use the xorg and mesa update on a latop machine with xserver?
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> chris__: I'd go with the complete stack myself
[14:42] <rabbitear_sdf> IdleOne: but we're already really better than everybody else, where do we go in that case to say hi?
[14:42] <chris__> hitsujiTMO, okay
[14:42] <MarkPaul> Thanks for advice, but I can't reboot, I would lose then the contents of RAM memory which I'm trying to avoid. The OS is alive, the memory is full, I'm looking for a way to dump or save it somehow
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> rabbitear_sdf: #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:42] <Wind-Storm> hitsujiTMO, Nothing, just it is linux-based device, but it is a popular channel, and I urgently need a bootloader for this!
[14:43] <rabbitear_sdf> thanks
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> Wind-Storm: then try ##linux or ##hardware ... you'll not find support here i'm afraid
[14:43] <Wind-Storm> hitsujiTMO: ok, thanks!
[14:44] <MarkPaul> Moreover, the last B in REISUB doesn't work - the system doesn't react, I tried it on VM
[14:44] <DarthEaron> hello everyone
[14:44] <DarthEaron> join #pineapple
[14:45] <hitsujiTMO> DarthEaron: please spam elsewhere
[14:45] <Foxhoundz> I created a new account for my linux box but whenever I ssh in I don't see a bash prompt like so: username@host:~$. Instead I see just $ and must of the bash functionalities like tab completion won't work unless I explictly call the bash command
[14:45] <DJones> DarthEaron: PLease don't spam links to other channels
[14:45] <MarkPaul> I guess it should be activated before but apparently it is not
[14:45] <Foxhoundz> what is causing this?
[14:45] <infinity0> is there a document that describes which packages ubuntu snarf from debian? my c++ packages got snarfed within about 2 weeks of upload, yet they're not snarfing my xul-ext packages
[14:45] <Foxhoundz> s/must/most
[14:45] <Busybyeski> how can empathy connect to irc?
[14:45] <Foxhoundz> do I have to copy some sort of master bash profile file whenever I create an account?
[14:45] <hitsujiTMO> Foxhoundz: you created the account with useradd instead of adduser?
[14:46] <Foxhoundz> hitsujiTMO: this user has been around for a while so I don't recall
[14:46] <newb>  Hello and good (edit bad) morning. So, I now have my SATA hard drive hooked up. I also bought a USB cd/dvd. I tried to install windows XP (Home Edition), and I got the blue screen of death. I have no idea why.
[14:46] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Hello and good (edit bad) morning. So, I now have my SATA hard drive hooked up. I also bought a USB cd/dvd. I tried to install windows XP (Home Edition), and I got the blue screen of death. I have no idea why.
[14:47] <DarthEaron> DarthEaron: not spam, i forgot the put the / in. im runnig irssi.
[14:47] <DarthEaron> DJones: my bad
[14:47] <DJones> DarthEaron: ok, no worries
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> Foxhoundz: you created it with useradd. which just creates the account and nothing else. its therefore using the default shell, dash instead of bash
[14:47] <mojtaba> Hi, I am doing a backup with rdiff-backup (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6901655/)  should I exclude /home/.ecryptfs and /run?
[14:47] <MarkPaul> The matter is I lost a connection with CD-ROM for a while when I was using LiveCD session and I don't know what can I do now to restore it or dump the RAM or execute something avoiding reboot
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> Foxhoundz: use: sudo usermod -s /bin/bash <accountname>                          to assign the bash shell to it
[14:48] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Could any of these devices be helpful to us in the ubuntu server installation? I tried fedora last night and all I get with that is '/isolinux/vmlinuz0' not found.
[14:49] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I also tried smos-linux but, so far, I can't figure out how to make a bootable usb with it.
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> newb: you're main problem right now is the network interface. you'd need to get a pci network card/usb wireless dongle that works with linux
[14:50] <Jpmh> applets etc place little icons in the 'status' line at the bottom of my screen - how do I do that?
[14:50] <newb> hitsujiTMO: How do we know my existing network is incompatable with Linux?
[14:50] <Foxhoundz> hitsujiTMO: that worked, but there's now a bash binary file in my home directory
[14:50] <Foxhoundz> is that safe to delete?
[14:51] <rom1504> newb: how can a network be incompatible with linux ??
[14:51] <reaga> Boogeyman: : managed to fix it, had to type  sudo apt-get update
[14:51] <Boogeyman> lol, yeah, sometimes the simple route is the best
[14:51] <Busybyeski> is it ok to put my own scripts into /usr/bin/?
[14:51] <newb> rom1504: I have no idea. I was responding to hitsujiTMO's comment.
[14:52] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I am looking at the motherboard's specifications and it shows a Realtek GbE Lan chip (10-100-1000 Mbit)
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> newb: the rt6168 is problematic with linux. even with the latest driver its not working
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> newb: r8168 even
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> Foxhoundz: you also don't have a home directory
[14:54] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Is there a way to install the r8168 driver using the xubuntu GUI? I am not good a command line and I am not convinced that I properly commanded the installation yesterday.
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> Busybyeski: use ~/bin
[14:55] <Foxhoundz> hitsujiTMO: I do. I think i created that manually because cd ~ takes me to /home/<username>
[14:55] <hitsujiTMO> newb: no. the driver is installed. it just doesn't work
[14:55] <newb> hitsujiTMO: So, I should give up on any linux distribution?
[14:56] <hitsujiTMO> newb: either give up, or get a new network interface (new pci card or wifi adapter)
[14:57] <MarkPaul> What is CTRL + D and what it does? It's not mentioned for example here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14155/what-to-do-when-ctrl-c-wont-kill-running-job
[14:57] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Is there any benefit to contacting Gigabyte to see what they say about the driver needed for Linux?
[14:57] <hitsujiTMO> Foxhoundz: whats the output of: cat /etc/passwd | grep <username>
[14:57] <rom1504> MarkPaul: it sends end of file
[14:57] <hitsujiTMO> newb: they most likely don't support linux. but it can be worth a shot
[14:58] <MarkPaul> rom1504: Thanks, I'll try it
[14:58] <rom1504> MarkPaul: might be useful if you want to write the input of a command that takes stdin directly in the terminal (and then press ctrl+d)
[14:58] <Guest93577> hey guys. I have a user deploy, which is my automated app deploy script. When it creates new directorys i need them to belong to the www-data group. How can I ensure that happens
[14:58] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Is there a way that I can test this hard drive to see if it is why I got the blue screen of death?
[14:59] <newb> hitsujiTMO: For example, if I boot to xubuntu, would it show up as a drive to be written to/read from?
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> newb: the hard drive is unlikely to be the cause, most likely its the fact that you're using such new hardware with such an old OS
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> newb: depends on what way its formatted before you got it
[15:00] <MarkPaul> Anyway, is there any shortcut to restart TTY or all of them being in TTY?
[15:00] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I would like to leave the house, buy what is needed, return home and have this machine running as soon as humanly possible. Before going to buy windows 7, I would like to be able to test the hard drive, if possible.
[15:01] <newb> hitsujiTMO: So it could appear in xubuntu?
[15:01] <Foxhoundz> hitsujiTMO: sys:x:3:3:sys:/dev:/bin/sh
[15:01] <Foxhoundz> dev:x:1002:1002::/home/dev:/bin/bash
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> newb: yes it would appear, but to what extent i don't know. i believe there are some tesing software in gparted
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> Foxhoundz: ok, it does indeed have a home so you should be fine there
[15:05] <CaptainPorn> http://www.captain-porn.com/
[15:05] <slackerman> when I create a directory wish a user, how can I change the default owner of the group to www-data?
[15:06] <aeon-ltd> slackerman: chown?
[15:06] <slackerman> aeo-ltd: I'm automating creating directories with a script
[15:06] <newb> hitsujiTMO: hmmm... I am in xubuntu and I don't see the drive... it appears as though only the usb's file structure is available.
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> slackerman: chown
[15:07] <newb> hitsujiTMO: could it be that i am looking in the wrong place?
[15:07] <slackerman> not sure how to chown after the fact with capistrano, can the default group when the user be something when i create a dir
[15:07] <hitsujiTMO> newb: can you see it in gparted?
[15:08] <aeon-ltd> slackerman: no idea
[15:08] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I don't know what gparted is...
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> slackerman: the default group can take the parent directories group, if the parent directory has g+s permission
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> newb: gparted is the graphical partition editor. its prob installed by default on the live cd. look for it in the application menu
[15:13] <user> kalispera se olous
[15:15] <user> na rotiso kati
[15:15] <hitsujiTMO> !gr | user
[15:16] <user> :O sorry
[15:20] <reaga> i installed ubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu server
[15:20] <reaga> but it doesnt seem to work
[15:20] <reaga> i tried to vnc into it, but its all just, grey
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> reaga: thats because the ubuntu desktop(unity) is 3d accelerated. Use a non accelerated desktop like xfce4
[15:22] <reaga> hitsujiTMO: but i followed a guide of how to do it
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> reaga: is that guide rather old?
[15:23] <reaga> june 18 2013
[15:23] <hitsujiTMO> reaga: link the guide please
[15:23] <reaga> http://xmodulo.com/2013/06/how-to-set-up-ubuntu-desktop-vm-on-amazon-ec2.html
[15:23] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I found gparted. It shows 465gb unallocated.
[15:23] <newb> I guess that means it's not formatted?
[15:23] <hitsujiTMO> newb: yup not formatted.
[15:24] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Can I format and test it in xubuntu?
[15:24] <hitsujiTMO> reaga: what version of ubuntu do you have installed?
[15:24] <hitsujiTMO> newb: there should be testing tools in gparted. and you can create + format partitions with that too
[15:26] <reaga> hitsujiTMO: ubuntu server 13.10
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> reaga: that tutorial is assuming 12.04... ubuntu-2d (non accelerated unity) doesn't exist in 13.10
[15:26] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I think I may need to go buy windows 7. I have a desktop system in the living room with windows 7 and a laptop with windows 8, but neither system came with an installation disk. I wonder if I could use either system to make one for use on this setup. Do you have thoughts about that?
[15:26] <reaga> ah
[15:27] <reaga> that makes sense
[15:27] <hitsujiTMO> newb: they come with restoration partitions instead of install disks so they won't work for your new system
[15:28] <newb> hitsujiTMO: can you think of any other operating systems that might work?
[15:30] <hitsujiTMO> newb: nope. as I said, regarding linux, the network interface is your main problem. you would have to purchase an addon card, or usb wifi adapter to get it working. (still cheaper than buying windows tho)
[15:32] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Do you know if it is possible to download windows 7 and burn it to disc instead of leaving the house to buy one?
[15:33] <hitsujiTMO> newb: afraid not. its not longer available ins the MS store
[15:34] <mojtaba> Hi, I am doing a backup with rdiff-backup (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6901655/)  should I exclude /home/.ecryptfs and /run?
[15:35] <bekks> mojtaba: exclude /run and all bind mounts.
[15:35] <newb> hitsujiTMO: How do I know if this hardware is 32 or 64 bit?
[15:35] <hitsujiTMO> newb: the guys in ##windows would have a better idea of where you can get what copy
[15:35] <Vpex> newb: Basically 2003 onwards its 64bit
[15:35] <mojtaba> bekks: what about /home/.ecryptfs?
[15:35] <hitsujiTMO> newb: its 64bit
[15:36] <bekks> mojtaba: I never used ecryptfs. sorry.
[15:36] <newb> hitsujiTMO: Thank you for all your help
[15:36] <mojtaba> bekks: My home directory is encrypted. I guess, it is for that.
[15:36] <hitsujiTMO> newb np
[15:37] <newb> hitsujiTMO: While I haven't achieved my goal, I have learned a lot. I will be sure to update you here, asap, when I am finally mining!
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> newb: cool. good luck with getting it going
[15:37] <obsidian> newb, type:~$ uname -a
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> mojtaba: use --exclude-other-filesystems if you want to keep it to one partition
[15:38] <obsidian> that should tell you if you're kernel is 32-bit, or 64-bit
[15:38] <obsidian> your*
[15:38] <bekks> mojtaba: Check using "mount".
[15:38] <hitsujiTMO> obsidian: hes asking about hardware
[15:38] <obsidian> Oh, gotcha.
[15:38] <newb> obsidian: type that why?
[15:38] <obsidian> newb, disregard. Sorry.
[15:42] <greek> Hi guys. I want to get files off my blackberry. I've got the USB cable. Any tips?
[15:42] <bekks> greek: Install Windows, install the Blackberry connection software.
[15:42] <newb> hitsujiTMO: That windows chat you sent to me is good. Is there a list of all the chats available?
[15:43] <hitsujiTMO> !alis | newb
[15:43] <greek> bekks, Windows? Not really an option :/ Is that the only way? I could set up virtualbox I guess
[15:43] <hitsujiTMO> newb: there's 40000 channels so a full list ain't advisable
[15:43] <bekks> greek: Wont work that straightforward, since Blackerries are dual personality devices with a very poor support by virtualization solutions.
[15:44] <mojtaba> hitsujiTMO: Could you please explain what does --exclude-other-filesystems do? I read the man page, but I could not figure it out.
[15:45] <linaro> e
[15:45] <hitsujiTMO> mojtaba: it will ignore paths that belong to other filesystems, e.g. /proc /dev /sys  and any mounted partitions
[15:45] <linaro> o1111eeee
[15:46] <mojtaba> hitsujiTMO: You mean instead of excluding /var , /mnt , ..., I can simply use this option?
[15:48] <misterhp> hiiiiiiiiii
[15:48] <hitsujiTMO> mojtaba: if /var is mounted on another file system then it will be ignored. some paths you may still need to specify for an exclude, but ones belonging to other filesystems will be auto excluded
[15:50] <SpaceRat> Hello!
[15:50] <SpaceRat> I'm in desperate need for help ...
[15:50] <SpaceRat> I killed a Linux Soft-RAID
[15:51] <SpaceRat> Though I'm pretty sure it can be recovered ...
[15:51] <Modeuse> sers
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> SpaceRat: what exactly do you mean by killed?
[15:51] <SpaceRat> hitsujiTMO: there is no /dev/md0 anymore
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> SpaceRat: can you not rebuild the raid using the same drives?
[15:51] <SpaceRat> hitsujiTMO: but the disks still exist and weren't overwritten
[15:51] <SpaceRat> ActionParsnip: that's my question ... HOW?
[15:51] <k1l> SpaceRat: what did you do to kill it?
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> !raid may say
[15:52] <hitsujiTMO> SpaceRat: pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> !raid | SpaceRat may say
[15:52] <SpaceRat> hitsujiTMO: no fdisk, just parted
[15:52] <hitsujiTMO> SpaceRat: what distro is this?
[15:52] <SpaceRat> hitsujiTMO: actually it's a NAS ...
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Spacerat: then you will need your NAS manual
[15:53] <SpaceRat> parted -l : http://pastebin.com/DMDfG9B0
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> SpaceRat: try ##linux then. can't help you here when you don't even have access to the tools we know
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> SpaceRat: or the channel for the distribution the NAS is running.
[16:10] <docmur> I have samba sharing a locial volumn, /dev/orange-vg/Videos, Windows can see the folder but won't let me access it, saying the path doesn't exist, I don't know what to try, I'm using the root login credientials on Windows
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> docmur: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[16:12] <docmur> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> docmur: the path being in /dev would suggest you are trying to share a block device?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> docmur: why are you sharing folders in /dev ?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Etc
[16:13] <docmur> well it's a logic volumn in a LVM2 block device, of three drives
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> docmur: you should be sharing the mounted filesystem, not the raw block device
[16:13] <deim23> hello, I am trying to use trim on ubuntu but it don't works, can you help me? sorry for my bad english
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> docmur: you will need to mount the file system, then share the mount point
[16:13] <bekks> deim23: Define "doesnt work" please.
[16:13] <bekks> !details | deim23
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> deim23: sudo fstrim -v /
[16:14] <deim23> http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim
[16:14] <deim23> in that page I tried Testing automatic TRIM
[16:14] <deim23> and it don't prints 0s
[16:14] <bekks> deim23: It is deprecated.
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> deim23: whats the output of: sudo fstrim -v /
[16:14] <bekks> deim23: OR do you have Ubuntu 10.10 or older?
[16:14] <deim23> 13.10
[16:15] <docmur> oh, I didn't realize that i had to mount Video under the volumn group, thanks!
[16:15] <bekks> deim23: So why do you try to use a deprecated method?
[16:15] <starbuck> hey, is it possible to connect to x-server with a vnc client?
[16:15] <deim23> fstrim -v / nothing
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Deim23: isnt there an option for it to add in /etc/fstab
[16:15] <deim23> because I don't delete too many files
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> deim23: there should be some outou
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> starbuck: if you install a vnc server you can connwct to the active desktop session. What are you wanting to do on the remote pc?
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> deim23: there should be some output... is it stuck waiting or what?
[16:16] <deim23> hitsujiTMO: waiting
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Deim23: trim is default enabled in Trusty. You could upgrade in April and be ok
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> deim23: when its finished please paste the output
[16:17] <deim23> hitsujiTMO  110534070272 bytes were trimmed
[16:17] <Cydrobolt> hey why_so_serious
[16:17] <why_so_serious> hey cydrobolt
[16:17] <starbuck> ActionParsnip: i want to take over the active session, so vnc would be an option but i want to know if it is possible without a vnc server just using x-server
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Starbuck: yes but to achieve what? What is the purpose of the control? There  may be a sleeker solution to your needs
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> deim23: ok. so either add discard to the mount options in /etc/fstab for that drive. or add a daily cronjob for: /sbin/fstrim /
[16:19] <starbuck> ActionParsnip: it is a server where i want to use some gui programs
[16:19] <deim23> hitsujiTMO, I had in fstab : UUID=69a2be1d-6ade-46f4-8cd5-f13edc5d1c2b /               ext4    discard,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[16:19] <bekks> starbuck: which ones, e.g.?
[16:19] <why_so_serious> Can I switch from "ubuntu" to "xubuntu", without reinstalling the whole thing and with saving the data I saved in "ubuntu""
[16:19] <why_so_serious> ?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Starbuck: for example, transmission has a web interface, rather than use vnc then open transmission
[16:19] <k1l> why_so_serious: install xubuntu-desktop
[16:19] <bekks> why_so_serious: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> why_so_serious: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> deim23: ok. can whats the output of: mount | grep errors=remount-ro
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> why_so_serious: mine is the minimal xfce session, the mwtapackage will install diluplicates of applications on your system.
[16:20] <deim23> hitsujiTMO : /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,discard,errors=remount-ro)
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> deim23: then its working.
[16:20] <misdirect> hi. my thinkpad e330 does not shutdown correctly when the lid is closed. 75
[16:20] <why_so_serious> ok
[16:21] <misdirect> oh sorry.
[16:21] <why_so_serious> thanks actionparsnip
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> why_so_serious: eg you have gedit and you will also install mousepad using the metapackage
[16:21] <deim23> hitsujiTMO but I tried that test and it not get me 0s
[16:22] <misdirect> so i quite often set a shutdown -P +x timer and then close the lid. but 75% of the time the laptop does not shutdown but rather goes into standby forever. then when i open the lid the shutdown procedure continues and it shuts down. how can i fix that?
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> deim23: whoever wrote that test doesn't understand how ssd's work. its an invalid test
[16:22] <why_so_serious> alright... is that all? or do i have do watch out for other things as i install the new desktop (I am not exactly good with computer things)...
[16:22] <deim23> hitsujiTMO, so how can I test it?
[16:22] <bekks> why_so_serious: Thats all.
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> why_so_serious: thats just one example
[16:22] <why_so_serious> ok
[16:23] <why_so_serious> i'll give it a try
[16:23] <why_so_serious> thx so very much
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> deim23: you can't. you'd have to use a tool specific to that ssd, if there's one that exists as each ssd is implemented differently then there's no one way of testing
[16:26] <deim23> hitsujiTMO but there is any comand that show that is working? In windows there was a command, but I don't want that os
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> deim23: also trim doesn't explicitly zero a block in a ssd. such an effect would again be vendor specific
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> deim23: its reporting that its working, you'll have to take the ssd's word for it
[16:28] <thesisus> How do I open .sh files with terminal if  Terminal is not in the list of default applications?
[16:28] <bekks> thesisus: Use the editor of your choice.
[16:28] <thesisus> properties have been set to allow execution
[16:28] <thesisus> not edit.... run
[16:29] <nubcake> thesisus: have you tried running the .sh from terminal, using ./filename.sh
[16:29] <thesisus> @nubcake yes and it runs fine.  I would like to click on the file and run
[16:29] <thesisus> I need to associate terminal to the file type
[16:30] <thesisus> when I go to properties > Opens with, Terminal is not in the list.
[16:30] <thesisus> There appears to be no option to browse for other applications
[16:33] <deim23> hitsujiTMO ok thanks for your help
[16:36] <Dbugger> Hi guys
[16:38] <Dbugger> I recently purchased a VPS to move my websites there, but now that Im with an unmanaged machine I am running into some troubles. First of all: How do I store in the same server siter that are run under different systems? (Apache, NginX, Rails, NodeJS...)
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Dbugger: set the folders in the service xonfig files
[16:40] <hitsujiTMO> Dbugger: one of your webservers must be front facing to the web (nginx usually) then proxy pass the sites to the relevent backend servers
[16:40] <Dbugger> ActionParsnip, Im sorry I dont know what you just said
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Dbugger: you can set what folders are used by what sevuce using the services config file
[16:41] <Dbugger> hitsujiTMO, You mean that I have to use a webserver for ALL of them, and then somehow forward it to the others?
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> Dbugger: yes
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> Dbugger: this may give you an idea of how such would be configured https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-configure-nginx-as-a-front-end-proxy-for-apache
[16:42] <Dbugger> hitsujiTMO, Oh excelent :) I am using Ocean Digital. Thanks
[16:44] <Dbugger> hitsujiTMO, do you recommend me nginX as front-end webserver? I have always used Apache
[16:44] <hitsujiTMO> Dbugger: nginx would be advisable for the front end. It's designed for it
[16:45] <Dbugger> hitsujiTMO, I will take a look into it, thanks!
[16:50] <MarkPaul> Does anybody suppose the reason why pressing enter in TTY may skip the cursor to the new line instead of execute the typed command?
[16:51] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: beacuse the command isn't finished and expecting more input
[16:51] <whoever> MarkPaul: what hi said
[16:51] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: such as running "cat" without any params
[16:51] <whoever> happyface: or the command was not terminated aproperly
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: or running: echo "hello<enter>                            <- not closing the quotes
[16:52] <MarkPaul> hitsujiTMO: Yes, exactly the same like in mentioned example with cat
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: in the case of cat. its waiting for input from stdin. and is terminated with: ctrl + D
[16:54] <alexxxxa> I'm struggling to get dual boot on my brothers laptop. We wants to use windows 8 and it's already installed. Problem is when choosing "something else" option. It doesnt show Windows distribution at all. I googled a bit and it says something about MBR and GPT (that on GPT Ubuntu during installation wont detect windows)
[16:54] <alexxxxa> *he wants
[16:55] <hitsujiTMO> alexxxxa: how are you booting the ubuntu installer? are you booting it in legacy mode/csm or something?
[16:55] <MarkPaul> hitsujiTMO: What if ctrl+D doesn't work and every TTY acts the same?
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: its depends on what exactly the command you have entered, it could be waiting for a specific string
[16:57] <alexxxxa> hitsujiTMO legacy mode is enabled in BIOS. But how am I booting installer? From USB
[16:57] <MarkPaul> hitsujiTMO: Unfortunately it's the same reaction for every command
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> alexxxxa: disable legacy mode. you need to install ubuntu in uefi mode to run it along side windows 8
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: whats the command you entered?
[16:59] <MarkPaul> hitsujiTMO: I know that rebooting surely would fix it, but I can't or rather don't want to reboot the machine because of some reason and I'm trying to execute something avoiding reboot, do you know any helpful solution which would work?
[17:00] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: open a new tty, and kill the process
[17:00] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: ctrl + alt + f2
[17:01] <MarkPaul> hitsujiTMO: It doesn't matter because it's the same for every command so suppose that I want to run 'top'. but every TTY reacts the same, SysRq works, what can I do?
[17:01] <John_John_> what method to choose in order to install LAMP in Ubuntu 13.10 ? tasksel or apt-get ? should i prefer to install a 3d party AMP instead like XAMPP or BITNAMI ?
[17:01] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: it could also just be the case that the command is doing a lot of processing/stuck in an infinite loop
[17:02] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: can you ssh in?
[17:02] <bekks> MarkPaul: You are still on 10.04 desktop, arent you?
[17:02] <hitsujiTMO> !xampp | John_John_
[17:03] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: follow the instructions on the link
[17:04] <alexxxxa> hitsujiTMO, thanks, I'll try it.
[17:04] <MarkPaul> Nope, I'm not, now I try it on 12.04, but the aim is to find a solution and try it on 10.04 and others, I don't think it's possible to ssh because I didn't configure a server before
[17:05] <bekks> MarkPaul: correct.
[17:05] <bekks> MarkPaul: No ssh without a ssh server.
[17:05] <bekks> MarkPaul: Instead of messing with Sysrq, why dont you just use ssh?
[17:06] <MarkPaul> But how? It will refuse a connection...
[17:07] <bekks> MarkPaul: Install a ssh server before messing with Sysrq?
[17:07] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: can you tell us the command you ran that has put you into this situation?
[17:08] <MarkPaul> Is it possible to do it with direct connection of two computers with a cable and network cards?
[17:08] <bekks> MarkPaul: Yes.
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: with a crossover cable
[17:09] <mithereal> hello all i have a question about creating a ppa can anyone help me?
[17:09] <bekks> mithereal: First ask your question :)
[17:10] <mithereal> ok, i have looked all over the net and i cant find, all i have is a few bash scripts i want in my ppa, i can build source but wien i upload to launchpad build fails
[17:11] <mithereal> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ga4YdcmjWzWUFrVFB1bXE1a1U/edit?usp=sharing
[17:12] <MarkPaul> Sure I can, it happened after the computer lost a connection with CD-ROM for a seconds and I was using a LiveCD session then, the memory is full so I expect that filesystem on ramdisk and files still exsist till reboot, but I can't access them. CD-ROM is connected, but it didn't remount it, there were a lot of SQUASHFS errors in TTYs, I would like
[17:12] <MarkPaul> to dump or save the ram contents somehow till it's still there and if it's possible
[17:12] <MarkPaul> I'm trying with VM now
[17:12] <MarkPaul> The OS seem to be alive
[17:13] <bekks> MarkPaul: The OS is dead, basically.
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: were you mining from the live cd or something?
[17:13] <jhutchins> MarkPaul: vbox?
[17:13] <bekks> Otherwiese you would not have those squashfs errors.
[17:13] <MarkPaul> I've got such a cable but I did not configure anything beefore and now I think is too late for that
[17:14] <bekks> It is too late for everything. Reboot.
[17:14] <mithereal> is there a ppa builder, like a step by step thing?
[17:14] <MarkPaul> Yes, tests on virtualbox
[17:14] <bekks> MarkPaul: You cant test cables in vbox,
[17:15] <TJ-> MarkPaul: The only way I can think to copy RAM now is if the PC has an IEEE1394 port and the kernel driver is loaded. Because 1394 is a bus-master, it is possible from another host on the firewire link to access memory... its not easy though :)
[17:15] <MarkPaul> I know, I mean using cable in the case of real machine
[17:16] <MarkPaul> TJ-: It's a very helpful hint, thanks a lot, I'm gonna read about it and try
[17:16] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: may be possible to suspend the machine and get a raw dump of the ram from that
[17:17] <TJ-> MarkPaul: see for example http://code.google.com/p/volatility/wiki/FirewireAddressSpace
[17:17] <MarkPaul> Ok, but how? You mean cold boot attack?
[17:17] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: you said this is a virtualbox instance right?
[17:17] <axtran> Anyone running multiple display cards with Nvidia?
[17:17] <bekks> !anyone | axtran
[17:17] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: or do you mean you are running vbox on the system?
[17:18] <axtran> Haha.. okay, kind of the same question, I'm running two Quadro 600's and with Nouveau, everything works as desired, with Nvidia drivers, only two displays work :(
[17:18] <axtran> Try to enable via xorg.conf... two monitors work, third one is just "Disabled"
[17:19] <MarkPaul> It's a normal real laptop with livecd ubuntu running, I'm doing some trials on VirtualBox to find a solution - just a simulation
[17:19] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: ahh ok, then what I suggested wont work
[17:20] <bekks> MarkPaul: You cant simulate a defective cabling in vbox.
[17:22] <MarkPaul> But the memory /according to SysRq + m/ as well as swap is still full and SysRq works and the OS reacts - I believe that there is any helpful solution, there's a lack of some part of FS if I understand it correctly which is on CD, but remounting FSs with SysRq is what I also tried and it brings no effects
[17:24] <John_John_> some other article also mentions that i have to add my user to www-data group. is that correct/nessecary ?
[17:24] <SeekaNet> Hello - Package unrar-free is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[17:24] <SeekaNet> How come?
[17:25] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: sudo adduser <user> www-data
[17:26] <John_John_> hitsujiTMO: ok, can you explain to me why do i have to do that ?
[17:26] <John_John_> i am new to linux/php world
[17:27] <John_John_> but i have many years of development experience in windows platforms so i get things easily.
[17:27] <John_John_> so please if you can explain to me in a couple of words :)
[17:27] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: it depends on the setup but if you set a directory as: root:www-data and chmod g+ws the directory. then anyone in the www-data group can wire to that directory
[17:27] <hitsujiTMO> write*
[17:28] <Ubuntu1> web pages are not loading tried to reinstall firefox and still the same problem, do I need to reload the OS?  cant think of anything else to do
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: normally in php world you would not have your www root owned by www-data (neither by group nor user) so you may be following a bad guide
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: from the command line whats the output of: ping www.google.com
[17:31] <Ubuntu1> hit:  just a sec
[17:31] <Ubuntu1> hitsu:64 bytes from iad23s08-in-f19.1e100.net (74.125.228.115): icmp_req=1 ttl=49 time=42.2 ms
[17:31] <Ubuntu1> 64 bytes from iad23s08-in-f19.1e100.net (74.125.228.115): icmp_req=2 ttl=49 time=41.5 ms
[17:32] <Busybyeski> can i use gparted to change a primary partition to a logical?  i'm at my 4 max that i didn't realize existed
[17:32] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: ok, so the issue is with firefox. have you tried creating a new FF profile?
[17:33] <Ubuntu1> hitsu: not sure how to do that
[17:33] <John_John_> hitsujiTMO: now i understand what you are saying and i agree with you. my first thought was to change DocumentRoot to my home/sites folder. do you agree with that ?
[17:33] <axtran> Do you guys think the Nouveau driver is adequate for basic office computer usage?
[17:33] <axtran> At most, maybe some videos streamed online?
[17:33] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: from the terminal run: firefox -P
[17:34] <Ubuntu1> hitsu:  opened up new window
[17:34] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: create a new profile. load that and test firefox
[17:35] <Ubuntu1> hitsu: k
[17:35] <MarkPaul> Ok, so maybe wanting to get working TTY is too much in my case, but anybody knows how to dump the contents of RAM in such circumstances to extract some strings from it after that?
[17:36] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: i use /home/www     you can use /srv/www  or stick with /var/www  or whichever suits you best. what you can then do is create a group: www-user    chand chown your doc root to: root:www-user      and chmod g+ws      then that way your user (once added to www-user group) will have write access, but the web server wont
[17:37] <Ubuntu1> hitsu: started typing and Firefox closed.  how do I do a complete removal of Firefox and reinstall?  I tried from Synoptic but it only did  a partial removal
[17:38] <codepython777> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6904515/ - how do i fix this?
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: no need to reinstall firefox. just delete your user settings. ~/.mozilla/firefox
[17:39] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: there's also the cache: ~/.cache/mozilla/firefox
[17:39] <codepython777> is DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10" an LTS?
[17:39] <somsip> codepython777: no
[17:39] <somsip> !11.10 | codepython777
[17:39] <hitsujiTMO> codepython777: no. thats an unsupported EOL version
[17:40] <codepython777> so i just do: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core + do-release-upgrade ?
[17:41] <hitsujiTMO> !eol | codepython777 read the eol upgrade instructions
[17:41] <codepython777> hitsujiTMO: I was following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades
[17:42] <hitsujiTMO> codepython777: those instructions are assuming the distro you are upgrading from hasn't hit EOL, which 11.10 has
[17:43] <MarkPaul> Anyway, can anybody explain in few words what exactly happen in the livecd system when the cd-rom is disconnected and after seconds plug in again? I'm trying to understand it...
[17:44] <Ubuntu1> hitsu:  not working,  tried to reset Firefox to default settings, still not working
[17:45] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: is it working on another user?
[17:45] <Ubuntu1> stand alone. Im the only user
[17:45] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: try from the guest account?
[17:45] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: then create a user to test
[17:45] <codepython777> hitsujiTMO: the link that you provided has no instructions for 11.10?
[17:46] <Ubuntu1> will try, thanks,,  if these last dont work ,  then what?
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: then we look into removing plugins
[17:46] <Ubuntu1> hitsu......be back in a while...............
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> codepython777: it has generic instructions
[17:48] <Siegel-> hi. my broadcom bcm 3418 is not installed or activated on my computer, thus wireless is not working. ive installed the firmware for this and the hardware button is switched on but its still not working. any help?
[17:48] <hitsujiTMO> Siegel-: whats the output of: ls /sys/class/net
[17:49] <Siegel-> hitsujiTMO: let me pastebin it for you
[17:49] <Busybyeski> what is a good drive size visualizer?
[17:49] <S-USA|Nexus> Biusybyeski: baobab
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> Busybyeski: disk usage analyser .... its part of the base ubuntu install
[17:49] <Siegel-> hitsujiTMO: eth0 lo (in a bright blue font)
[17:50] <Busybyeski> hitsujiTMO: thanks!
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> Siegel-: ok. so the correct driver isn't installed
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> Siegel-: or there is a conflicting driver
[17:50] <simpleuser> Hi there. I installed a lamp server. I'm trying to make a symbolic link between a folder in my home and the /var/www folder
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> Siegel-: whats the output of: lspci -knn | grep Network -A2
[17:50] <Siegel-> hitsujiTMO: so it seems. im right now pu rging kernel b43 open source to try to see if the b43 fwcutter will work on its own
[17:51] <simpleuser> Here is the situation : https://dpaste.de/WmP6
[17:51] <simpleuser> But when i try to access to localhost i get a forbidden error
[17:51] <simpleuser> any idea ?
[17:51] <hitsujiTMO> Siegel-: have you looked thru the instructions here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BroadcomSTA(Wireless)
[17:51] <Ubuntu1> hitsu:  Firefox is messed up on guest account also
[17:52] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: what plugins have you installed: about:plugins
[17:52] <Siegel-> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6904589/
[17:53] <Siegel-> hitsujiTMO: im right now purging kernel as part of the instructions on that page
[17:53] <Siegel-> im waiting
[17:53] <giovanni> ciao bill
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> Siegel-: yup wrong driver is being loaded.      purging the kernel???
[17:53] <Ubuntu1> hitsu:  java, realplayer, shockwave
[17:53] <Guest12770> ciao
[17:54] <Siegel->   sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source broadcom-sta-common broadcom-sta-source
[17:54] <Siegel-> hitsujiTMO:   sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source broadcom-sta-common broadcom-sta-source
[17:54] <Guest12770> che cazzo dite?
[17:54] <hitsujiTMO> Siegel-: ahh purginf the sta drivers
[17:54] <hitsujiTMO> !it
[17:54] <Guest12770> ok beoys and girls
[17:54] <Siegel-> hitsujiTMO: its just that it seems to be stuck in terminal. it was doinng stuff and now its just stuck. should i restart a terminal and type it in again?
[17:54] <hitsujiTMO> Siegel-: in what way stuck? what las the last line of output?
[17:55] <Guest12770> kazz and mink?
[17:55] <Guest12770> loorid?
[17:55] <Guest12770> stroonz?
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | Guest12770
[17:55] <Siegel-> hitsujiTMO: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[17:55] <Siegel-> hitsujiTMO: and its not moving alon
[17:55] <Siegel-> g
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> Siegel-: i see. how long has it been stuck?
[17:55] <DJones> Guest12770: Do you have an Ubuntu support question? Be aware this is an operating system support channel and not for general chat
[17:55] <Siegel-> hitsujiTMO: several minutes, about 5-6
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> Siegel-: you can try cancel it: ctrl + c.... then run: sudo apt-get -f install
[17:56] <MarkPaul> Are there any low-level shorcuts except SysRq exists?
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> MarkPaul: no. the magic sysreq is the low level backup
[17:57] <thurstylark> does anyone have an MD5 sum for the i386 desktop iso?
[17:57] <pip> daftykins: I finally got samba working as I like.  Reading the smb.conf carefully & some permissions changes did the trick.  Thanks for al,l your help last week :)
[17:57] <Ubuntu1> hitsu:  here is the problem,  web pages display images, and no text at all
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> !md5 | thurstylark
[17:58] <thurstylark> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[17:58] <daftykins> pip: np ^_^
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> thurstylark: follow the first link there, should have a link to ubuntu hashes
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: do you have any other apps with the same issue?
[17:58] <MarkPaul> hitsujiTMO: thanks once again
[17:59] <Siegel-> hitsujiTMO: im gonna reboot, brb
[17:59] <pip> TTFN folks
[18:00] <Ubuntu1> hitsu:  twitter
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: is that a web app? then its using the ff engine, so doesn't count. if theres other apps then it could be an issue with a font renxering lib
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> rendering*
[18:01] <Ubuntu1> hitsu:  you tube is also only showing images, no text at all
[18:02] <Xethron> Greetings
[18:03] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: can you try running firefox from the terminal. it should log info to the terminal. and you can pastebin that info for us to look at. it may give some clues
[18:03] <Ubuntu1> hitsu: let me see if pastebin will work  just a sec
[18:04] <Bashing-om> Xethron: Hello ! .. What is up ?
[18:04] <Xethron> Bashing-om: Ze Sky she is up!
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: if pastebin doesn't work i'll suggest a work around
[18:05] <Xethron> Bashing-om: Whats down?
[18:05] <Bashing-om> !ot | Xethron
[18:06] <Xethron> Bashing-om: Thanks for the help!
[18:07] <Bashing-om> Xethron: Well, how can we help your ubuntu ?
[18:07] <NewBuzz> Hi
[18:07] <yasoob> d
[18:07] <NewBuzz> I am new to ubuntu and the other night I installed through the software centre two apps Dokcy and Cairo Launcher
[18:08] <NewBuzz> since then my network settings are having issues
[18:08] <NewBuzz> So I actually have two icons at the top near the gear icon or sound icon
[18:09] <NewBuzz> can anyone help me
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: have you installed any new fonts lately?
[18:15] <Ubuntu1> hitsu:  yes, to use with Inkscape, and Scribus
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: most likely thats the cause of the problem. where did you install them to?
[18:16] <Ubuntu1> hitsu: what site can I upload a screenshot so you can see?
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> !paste | Ubuntu1
[18:18] <shahan1322f> anyone here know how to use HTML5 audio tag?
[18:19] <shahan1322f> http://www.w3schools.com/html/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml5_audio_all  how do i position this top right instead of default top left?
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | shahan1322f
[18:19] <dehav_p> hello, can you help me how can I set cron for do a task every 20 min?
[18:19] <Ubuntu1> hitsu: I am going to install Chrome, see if that works, I post anything because pages are blank
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> shahan1322f: try #html5
[18:19] <shahan1322f> hitsujiTMO, alright but, it's a simple html5 question and this is an active room
[18:19] <shahan1322f> hitsujiTMO, did
[18:20] <DJones> shahan1322f: Although its active, the support here is just for Ubuntu operating system issues
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> dehav_p: */20 * * * * command
[18:20] <shahan1322f> DJones, i know
[18:20] <SeekaNet> does anybody know how to fix this: apache2: Syntax error on line 140 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/sgci.load: No such file or directory
[18:21] <SeekaNet> i added the file to apache2.conf using ln
[18:21] <dehav_p> hitsujiTMO : it is a root task, it will work?
[18:21] <SeekaNet> i verified its in the directory
[18:21] <Ubuntu1> hitsu:  installing another browser, will take a minute, im stepping ojutside for a smoke.  my nerves are about shot
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> dehav_p: yes. that will work for any user
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: lol np
[18:22] <saiarcot895> SeekaNet: What do you get when you do 'stat /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/sgci.load'?
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> SeekaNet: whats the output of: ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/sgci.load && file /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/sgci.load
[18:23] <SeekaNet> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 Feb  9 12:33 /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/sgci.load -> /etc/apache2/mods-avalible/sgci.load
[18:23] <SeekaNet> root@chrillster:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled#
[18:23] <SeekaNet> /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/sgci.load: broken symbolic link to `/etc/apache2/mods-avalible/sgci.load'
[18:23] <SeekaNet> broken
[18:23] <SeekaNet> lol
[18:23] <SeekaNet> i am not sure how that happened
[18:23] <SeekaNet> or how to fix it
[18:23] <dehav_p> hitsujiTMO : thanks, do you think that it is right? */20 * * * * sh '/home/user/Scripts/script.sh'
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> SeekaNet: /etc/apache2/mods-avalible/sgci.load    <- missing an a in available
[18:24] <hitsujiTMO> */20 * * * * /home/user/Scripts/script.sh
[18:24] <dehav_p> ok, i will reboot to try it, thanks
[18:24] <hitsujiTMO> dehav_p: ^    make sure to chmod +x /home/user/Scripts/script.sh
[18:24] <SeekaNet> hitsujiTMO -- i just noticed that, damn, ty man for looking over my dumba-- commandlol
[18:25] <hitsujiTMO> SeekaNet: thats why you should use: a2enmod
[18:25] <dehav_p> hitsujiTMO, ok I will
[18:26] <atb> hey, my sound stopped working
[18:26] <atb> i can aplay front_center.wav as SU
[18:27] <atb> but no applications that play sound are working
[18:27] <SeekaNet> hitsujiTMO; when i look over my ln -s command, the a is there.
[18:27] <atb> tried resetting pulseaudio a few times
[18:27] <lufi> hi, can anyone help me with this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/418643/cannot-access-ubuntu-from-windows
[18:28] <hitsujiTMO> SeekaNet: thats a little bizarre then
[18:28] <SeekaNet> hitsujiTMO; yep
[18:28] <Baribal> Hi. Is there a generic way to tell compilers where to look for header files? I'm trying to use pip to install a newer version of pyopencl, but it can't find CL/cl.h, although that's in /opt/AMDAPP/include/.
[18:29] <desmoineaux> Bonjour
[18:29] <xangua> lufi: three are a few programs that allow windows read ext partitions, but not sure about ext4
[18:30] <lufi> xangua, lets skip the samba problem. I cant even ping ubuntu from windows.
[18:30] <xangua> lufi: ooh just read the question
[18:30] <lufi> it does show in the Network directory though
[18:30] <desmoineaux> azertyuio
[18:31] <Bashedx> hey guys
[18:31] <Bashedx> got a bit of an issue here id like someone to explain to me
[18:31] <bburt> hi Bashedx
[18:31] <SeekaNet> hitsujiTMO;  ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/scgi.load /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/scgi.load     ln: failed to create symbolic link '/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/scgi.load': File exists
[18:31] <Bashedx> how is it possible that after installing ubuntu, i cant access my bios
[18:31] <Bashedx> i cant find the relation between the 2
[18:31] <bburt> Do you mean you can't access BIOS settings on bootup?
[18:32] <Bashedx> exactly
[18:32] <hitsujiTMO> SeekaNet: ln -s target link.            so: sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/scgi.load /etc/apache2/mods-available/scgi.load
[18:32] <Vpex> Bashedx: is it an UEFI board? hit F12 at boot
[18:32] <Bashedx> i ve never seen anything like it, its like saying my car wont start cuz the windshield is dirty
[18:32] <hitsujiTMO> SeekaNet: wait no forget that
[18:32] <SeekaNet> ok
[18:32] <Bashedx> oh yeah ive tried hitting f12, but nothing happens
[18:32] <hitsujiTMO> SeekaNet: since the link exists, use -f
[18:32] <Bashedx> f10 gives me only the HDD to boot
[18:33] <bburt> That is very strange. are you using grub2 as a loader?
[18:33] <OerHeks> Bashedx, depends on the machine, compaq used to write the bios data to track 0, if that is deleted, you are out of bios data and should have issues with your machine too.
[18:33] <lufi> xangua, read the question? what question?
[18:33] <Bashedx> mbr is only showing ubuntu so theres nothing weird there
[18:33] <lid6j86> thanks, just spent the last minute imagining any possible way a car might not start because of a dirty windshield
[18:33] <Bashedx> really oerheks?! wow
[18:33] <SeekaNet> hitsujiTMO; force removal
[18:33] <Ubuntu1> hitsu: Chromium is working fine, Firefox is mucked up......
[18:33] <Bashedx> im using a samsung np300
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> SeekaNet: its force, so it will overwrite an existing link
[18:34] <Vpex> OerHeks: I think his computer is a little newer than that somehow
[18:34] <astropirate> If I install 14.04 Alpha, will my system update to the release version when it comes ou t?
[18:34] <OerHeks> Bashedx, try a hard reset, remove battery and hold power button for 10 sec
[18:34] <bburt> OK. duh.
[18:34] <astropirate> or will i need to do a new install?
[18:34] <Bashedx> yeah did that
[18:34] <DJones> !final | astropirate
[18:34] <Bashedx> didnt work
[18:34] <Vpex> Bashedx: do you have WIndows 8 and secure boot?
[18:34] <SeekaNet> hitsujiTMO; i made an oopsie:  ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/scgi.load /etc/apache2/mods-available/scgi.load
[18:34] <SeekaNet> ln: accessing '/etc/apache2/mods-available/scgi.load': Too many levels of symbolic links
[18:34] <Bashedx> i dont
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> Ubuntu1: ff may be defaulting to a different font. also uses a different font rendering engine that could be messing up on a specific font file
[18:34] <Bashedx> ubuntu only
[18:34] <SeekaNet> when i -f i mean
[18:34] <dmarr> does anyone know what is faster to stream hfsplus - mac+afp or nix+nfs?
[18:34] <mitchelwb> I have 3 partitions on my HDD, all created with Ubuntu (installed Ubuntu on a new drive, later used gParted to create 2nd and 3rd partitions) and yesterday, I wiped and reinstalled a clean install on my primary partition.  Now, I'm trying to mount the other two, but only one is there.  fdisk reports that partition 2 does not start on physical sector boundary and when I try to mount it it tells me that I need a filesystem type, but 
[18:35] <astropirate> DJones, I am currently in 12.04, should I just nuke my system and start fresh?
[18:35] <SeekaNet>  ln -f /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/scgi.load /etc/apache2/mods-available/scgi.load
[18:35] <SeekaNet> ln: accessing '/etc/apache2/mods-available/scgi.load': Too many levels of symbolic links
[18:35] <Bashedx> seriously wtf was samsung thinking when they put bios data on track 0, its beyond horrible
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> SeekaNet: sudo ln -sf /etc/apache2/mods-available/scgi.load /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/scgi.load
[18:35] <Bashedx> i shoulda bought a lenovo
[18:35] <Bashedx> you guys think removing the cmos battery d do it?
[18:35] <mitchelwb> How can I find my partition filesystem type and how can I find my third partition?
[18:35] <SeekaNet> hitsujiTMO; says the same thing about too many levels
[18:35] <Bashedx> i already tried hard resets, f8, f2, f4, f10, f12, etc
[18:36] <Beldar> Bashedx, no swearing or acronyms of here please.
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> SeekaNet: then your target is also a link. so you're missing the file
[18:36] <Vpex> Bashedx: does it skip the bios splash or say no bootable medium found?
[18:36] <Aleran> mitchelwb: maybe BootRepair will help you? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:36] <SeekaNet> hitsujiTMO; but im in the directory, and its there.
[18:36] <koell> do u know games like "curse of war"?
[18:36] <Bashedx> no i get a samsung splash but as soon as i hit f2 (key for bios settings) i get the grub menu
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> SeekaNet: whats the output of: file /etc/apache2/mods-available/scgi.load
[18:37] <dmarr> it also used to be the case that nfs-kernel-driver used to require a kernel rebuild to support hfs, is this still the case?
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> SeekaNet: and: ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-available/scgi.load
[18:37] <lid6j86> I got an Asus ultrabook, mitchelwb , i had all kinds of issues with hdd's when i tried messing around, it ended up being an UEFI issue, so if you haven't already, definitely take a peek in that direction to see if it isn't that
[18:38] <Vpex> Bashedx: try hitting esc at grub then F12?
[18:38] <lid6j86>  mitchelwb , i had all kinds of issues with hdd's when i tried messing around, it ended up being an UEFI issue, so if you haven't already, definitely take a peek in that direction to see if it isn't that
[18:38] <Bashedx> k just a sec
[18:38] <SeekaNet> hitsujiTMO; inc pastebin
[18:38] <bburt> waiting to see how this turns out ...
[18:39] <Bashedx> that just booted directly into ubuntu Vpex
[18:39] <SeekaNet> hitsujiTMO; http://pastebin.com/vc4WPA4Y
[18:39] <Bashedx> guess i have no other option than removing the cmos battery :(
[18:39] <Bashedx> i have having to rip a laptop apart
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> SeekaNet: /etc/apache2/mods-available/scgi.load is a symlink to itself
[18:40] <Bashedx> hate having *
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> SeekaNet: you've just created a symlinkception somehow
[18:40] <SeekaNet> hitsujiTMO; im a bit confused. i want the scgi.load into apache2.conf
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> afk 10 mins.
[18:41] <SeekaNet> k
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> SeekaNet: try reintalling th scgi.load mod
[18:41] <Yerushalmi> Hey folks. My wifi keeps randomly dropping and refusing to reconnect until after a reboot. Careful parsing of the output of "sudo lshw -C network" before and after droplink reveals that "bus_master" disappears from the list of capabilities. Help!
[18:42] <Vpex> Bashedx: if you remove the hard drive then boot, you might have a quick bios option enabled
[18:42] <mitchelwb> Aleran: I'm booting from the cd to try BootRepair, but looking at the link you posted, I'm not sure if that's what I need.  The only Windows install that's been on this HDD has been through VM.  BootRepair looks to be more geared towards boot and dual boot issues.
[18:42] <Bashedx> i tried Vpex, but it kept rebooting
[18:42] <mitchelwb> I'm booting fine, I'm trying to figure out what happened to my second and third data only partitions.
[18:42] <Bashedx> splash, blank screen, reboot (w/o hdd)
[18:43] <SeekaNet> hitsujiTMO; take a look at this, haha. i seriously don't understand. http://pastebin.com/Tdy1ihtj
[18:43] <SeekaNet> hitsujiTMO; when youre back anyway
[18:44] <Bashedx> in case the cmos battery didnt work, is there any way to recover or install that track 0 bios on hdd?
[18:44] <Bashedx> or is it bricked
[18:44] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, how did you create them?  UEFI mode may be a culprit
[18:44] <bekks> Bashedx: the cmos battery is unrelated to whichever "track 0".
[18:45] <Vpex> Bashedx: I could be wrong here but given how your laptop wasn't made in the 90s you shouldn't have to worry about that.
[18:45] <Bashedx> yeah but so far not sure if cmos error or hdd error
[18:45] <Vpex> thats the track 0
[18:45] <OerHeks> Bashedx, that was the old compaq way of bios, haven't seen those machines lately.
[18:45] <whoever> is there an option in rhythmbox to have it scan id tags, i edited them with easytag and saved but rythmbox 3 is still showing the unedited tag
[18:46] <whoever> it is rhythm box 3 not 2
[18:46] <OerHeks> but samsung is also known of bricking bios issues ..
[18:46] <Bashedx> i really dont know then what else can cause that
[18:46] <Vpex> OerHeks: that was different due to a bug in the uefi secure boot on series 9 laprops
[18:46] <mitchelwb> lid6j86: I don't really remember the details now.  When I originally set the machine up, I created a small partition on the drive and left the rest of it unformatted.  Later, I went back and used gParted to create and set up the other partitions.  But that was over a year ago.  I believe I set them up the same way as the original partition
[18:46] <Bashedx> and if theres a way to recover that id love to know
[18:46] <mitchelwb> I'm not familiar with what UEFI is, so I'll have to look that up as well.  (this wasn't how I intended to spend my weekend.)
[18:47] <OerHeks> there is an !UEFI guide available
[18:47] <OerHeks> !uefi
[18:48] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, i had a lot of similar issues and I had about a week's headache over it because at the time i was trying to dual boot.  basically if I recall correctly I was having issues because some drives were formatted when I had UEFI mode enabled, but then when I tried to install linux it was using a non-UEFI installer mode, so it couldn't see the partitions I was creating
[18:49] <Bashedx> would a win 8 install n sec boot reboot fix it?
[18:49] <lufi> are there any required service to run in order ping ubuntu from windows? i can ping windows from ubuntu but not vice versa. i dont have firewalls on both machines too
[18:49] <Bashedx> (not keeping win 8 tho)
[18:49] <bekks> Bashedx: fix what?
[18:49] <Bashedx> bios not showing
[18:49] <bekks> Bashedx: No.
[18:49] <Vpex> Bashedx: no
[18:49] <Bashedx> darn...
[18:50] <Bashedx> then im out of ideas
[18:50] <Vpex> lufi: do you have the right ip?
[18:50] <bekks> Bashedx: get the manual of that computer and read about how to get into its bios.
[18:50] <Bashedx> i did bekks
[18:50] <OerHeks> random thought: maybe you can enter your bios only wwhen powersupply enabled, not on battery?
[18:51] <lufi> i think so. it shows on the dhcp table of my router. here's the full question http://askubuntu.com/questions/418643/cannot-access-ubuntu-from-windows
[18:51] <Bashedx> but apparently the ubuntu install messed things up on this machine, must have had bios datta on the hdd
[18:51] <bekks> Bashedx: computer having bios data on hdd are about 30 years old.
[18:52] <OerHeks> Bashedx, no, samsung nor uefi does that, compaq only
[18:52] <Bashedx> then i have no clue whats causing this
[18:52] <mitchelwb> lid6j86: the thing is though, This was a brand new HDD.  It's never had anything but ubuntu installed on it.  I'm going to have to read more about this UEFI stuff...
[18:52] <Bashedx> oh uefi then is it?
[18:52] <Bashedx> it there any way to bypass it?
[18:52] <bekks> Bashedx: get immto the setup of the computer and enable bios.
[18:52] <Bashedx> cuz i just hate not being able to access bios settings, its just ridiculous
[18:53] <lufi> Vpex, it is the inet addr in the ifconfig result right?
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> SeekaNet: ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/sgci.load; rm -f /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/sgci.load; ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/sgci.load
[18:53] <bekks> Bashedx: if there is no such option, you have uefi only
[18:53] <Bashedx> what do you mean setup of the computer bekks? i cant access the bios settings, thats the main issue
[18:53] <Vpex> lufi: yeah ifconfig will give you the right ip
[18:53] <Vpex> lufi: that is if your looking at the right interface
[18:53] <mitchelwb> Right now, I'm most interested in how to get my data off these two partitions more than anything.  It's not a lot of important stuff... and I can back it all up to my NAS anyway.  I thought I was safe by getting everything off the primary partition in to the other partitions and that once I reinstalled I'd just remount them and away I'd go.
[18:54] <bekks> Bashedx: then you have to look into the manual too see how to get into the setup.
[18:54] <bburt> bekks: for his computer, it's F2, I think. But that doesn't work for him.
[18:54] <Bashedx> manual says f2, that doesnt work
[18:54] <bburt> He's tried all the F keys
[18:54] <mitchelwb> If I backed it all up to the NAS, I could even do a full HDD reformat and go all about it from the ground up again, but I'd wait for the coming LTS
[18:55] <instigator> Hello. I have created a self-signed certificate for a website using openssl. Is there a way I can verify it? (without getting a third party)?
[18:55] <bburt> Is it a situation where the splash just goes by so quickly you don't have a chance to hit F2? Or is it unresponsive to keyboard input?
[18:55] <TJ-> Bashedx: What is the *exact* model/sub-model number?
[18:55] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, it's definitely worth the look, even if it never had anything else installed on it, if you are trying to load up in a different mode now it will have issues reading the partitions you made
[18:55] <Yerushalmi> Anyone available to help with my wireless problem? My wifi keeps randomly dropping (usually when the computer is moved) and refusing to reconnect until after a reboot. Careful parsing of the output of "sudo lshw -C network" before and after droplink reveals that "bus_master" disappears from the list of capabilities, but I don't know if that's relevant.
[18:56] <di0x_> what's the name of the media player of ubuntu?
[18:56] <lufi> Vpex, I only have one interface that shows the ip in inet addr. unless i would want to ping 127.0.0.1
[18:56] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, so basically you'd have to go into the BIOS and either force a non-UEFI boot-up of the install disk or force the UEFI boot-up of the install disk, either or (if it is a UEFI issue)
[18:56] <Bashedx> np300e4c-ae3ar
[18:56] <TJ-> Bashedx: If it is a UEFI system, *and* has been configured for "fast-boot" (A Windows 8 feature), then it is not possible to enter UEFI setup whilst booting. I suspect you've been caught by that issue.
[18:56] <Vpex> lufi: if you only have a lo interface you going to need the right driver, how are you trying to connect ethernet?
[18:56] <TJ-> Bashedx: if so, that's a Windows 'feature' to make boot-times snappy
[18:56] <OerHeks> TJ- +1
[18:57] <bburt> yay microsoft!
[18:57] <Bashedx> even if i dont have windows 8 installed?
[18:57] <Vpex> Bashedx: yup
[18:57] <Bashedx> well thats great...
[18:57] <OerHeks> but then he would not be able to remove any windows partitions
[18:57] <bekks> Bashedx: you had w8 installed?
[18:57] <Bashedx> nop
[18:57] <Bashedx> just ubuntu
[18:57] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: if no efi boot is found it should drop into uefi tho?
[18:57] <lufi> Vpex, i have eth interface. it shows the ip there. i can ping from ubuntu to windows but not vice versa
[18:58] <TJ-> Bashedx: Well if the UEFI is configured for "fast boot" then the symptom you describe would match. Time to read the user manual to find out how to reset UEFI to defaults
[18:58] <Bashedx> the only thing i found was to boot win8 n reboot w uefi disabled
[18:58] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: As I read it, many implementation don't when configured for "fast boot" ... a known but wide-spread 'feature' / bug
[18:58] <Bashedx> well thats just not true, i meant @fast boot@ disabled
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: ahh ok. have yet to experience that
[18:59] <di0x_> wok
[18:59] <TJ-> Bashedx: OK, will if it is disabled, I have to wonder if it is taking notice of the setting, or if some combination of the various boot/secure boot options results in this.
[18:59] <bekks> Bashedx: you cant  acess the settings - so how can you tell thats not true?
[18:59] <Vpex> lufi: eth0 might be wrongly configured then try "sudo ifconfig eth0 inet dhcp" and "sudo ifup eth0"
[18:59] <Bashedx> (not true what i said bout uefi, i meant fastboot)
[19:01] <Bashedx> guess ill have to install win8 n give it a go, im so upset w microsoft n samsung atm im thinking of sending it back to warranty n getting a lenovo
[19:01] <bekks> Bashedx: Messing it up is no case for guarantuee :)
[19:02] <Vpex> Bashedx: quality control on lenovo are supposedly lacking
[19:02] <Bashedx> any brands to recommend then?
[19:02] <Bashedx> asus maybe?
[19:02] <bekks> HP, Dell.
[19:02] <lufi> Vpex, it said `dhcp: unknown host` and `Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0` respectively. here is the result of ifconfig though http://i.stack.imgur.com/Pw5ee.png
[19:02] <Bashedx> dell sounds good ^^
[19:02] <Vpex> Bashedx: dell business line is where its at
[19:03] <Bashedx> i just use the computer for school, dont need any fancy 3k laptop really
[19:03] <TJ-> Bashedx: The manual I found - if it is the correct one - talks only about a BIOS, but it seems to be more a generic Windows 8 manual
[19:03] <astropirate> Friends
[19:03] <TJ-> Bashedx: good luck with it; going out now
[19:03] <Bashedx> i know TJ :( ive seen that aswell
[19:03] <Jazayri> hi where can i set my https proxy ?
[19:03] <astropirate> how can I install ubuntu 14.04 Alpha without having a blank DVD?
[19:03] <Bashedx> tyvm for your help guys
[19:03] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | astropirate
[19:04] <astropirate> hitsujiTMO, thanks shorlock not what I asked
[19:04] <Vpex> lufi: from your ifconfig image you have 2 nics and eth1 is the working one.
[19:05] <lufi> Vpex, yes that is what I am pinging
[19:05] <mitchelwb> lid6j86: I'm looking through my BIOS right now.  I don't see any kind of settings for UEFI as mentioned at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI but I do know that yesterday, when I booted from the install disk, I got the screen that would indicate I was NOT in EFI mode
[19:05] <tomreyn> astropirate: you asked for support
[19:05] <lufi> oh he left. can anyone help me on this one? http://askubuntu.com/questions/418643/cannot-access-ubuntu-from-windows
[19:05] <astropirate> tomreyn, what?
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> astropirate: any trusty related support is in #ubuntu+1
[19:06] <astropirate> tomreyn, he answered a question that wasn't asked by me. I didnt ask which release it was, i asked how i can installl the alpha without a dvd
[19:06] <teward> astropirate,we can't answer ubuntu+1 questions, you need to ask in #ubuntu+1
[19:06] <astropirate> teward, high five buddy!
[19:06] <teward> astropirate, you're asking how to install 14.04 without a DVD. 14.04 isn't a stable release. So you can only use #ubuntu+1 to ask about it
[19:06] <MarkPaul> Let me ask again, can anybody explain in few words what exactly happen in the livecd system when the cd-rom is disconnected and after seconds plug in again? I'm trying to understand it... It's about filesystem, ramdisk, SQUASHFS and so on
[19:07] <teward> astropirate, if you wish to argue this, discuss it with the channel operators and the people who decide policy, not us users.
[19:07] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, that could very potentially be the problem then.  If I remember UEFI mode will show a black grub-like screen
[19:07] <mitchelwb> The partitions were all set up using a 32 bit install, but yesterday, I installed 13.10 64 bit.  I see a lot of mention of the 64 bit when dealing with this EFI stuff, could that be a factor?
[19:07] <bekks> MarkPaul: Your system looses the squashfs and the entire livecd system running gets messed up instantly. Time to reboot, as I told you hours ago.
[19:07] <astropirate> teward, who is arguing?
[19:07] <thoonai> hey someone with experience with xdmx interested in helping me ;)?
[19:07] <thoonai> I'm quite stuck
[19:07] <Dave0101> Hello all. I have what is probably a silly question. My wired ethernet works fine, and appears in gnomes network manager frontend, using dhcp as intended. It does not, however, appear in interfaces. Where is the configuration for eth0 likely stored?
[19:08] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, if it's still enabled and it just happened to boot up in non-UEFI then you should be able to go into BIOS and select something similar to boot-up by cd (it should have a big UEFI in the front of the description)
[19:08] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, let me load up my laptop and see if i can't find something in the BIOS to help you more with correct terminology here
[19:08] <lufi> Dave0101, in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts i think
[19:08] <mitchelwb> lid6j86: I would assume though that none of the partitions should be in EFI mode (am I saying that right?)  And based on the info I just found, the current root drive shouldn't be EFI either.
[19:08] <tomreyn> Dave0101: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[19:09] <Dave0101> tomreyn, system-connections only contains entries for VPN connections.
[19:09] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, howdid you format it?  what did you use?
[19:09] <tomreyn> Dave0101: not on my system, but it was just a guess
[19:09] <mitchelwb> Which partition?  when?
[19:10] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, the two that you can't see
[19:10] <Dave0101> lufi, Don't have a /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts
[19:11] <MarkPaul> bekks: the last question: how do you think, the files are still there, they survived? I suppose so because the RAM and swap are used in some great part. Then, after dumping the RAM it would be possible to recover the filesystem or look for files basing on headers or just extract strings...
[19:11] <bekks> MarkPaul: They are messed up, gone.
[19:11] <mitchelwb> started with new HDD.  Installed first partition with 32 bit (11.?) and later, after updating to 12.04 used gparted to create the second two.  Don't remember much in the way of details on how I did it though.  (I know there was some trial and error that happened) Yesterday, I booted from the 64-bit 13.10 install disc and let it install over the 12.04
[19:12] <bekks> MarkPaul: Technically, you wont have any chance to dump the RAM, dont you? Or do you know a way to do so?
[19:12] <bekks> MarkPaul: I mean: dump the RAM from a non-running system.
[19:13] <MagePsycho> hi guys, how to know which web server is installed on linux?
[19:13] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, one simple check would be to just go into BIOS and do a boot override in the opposite mode you didn't use, then check if you can't see them
[19:13] <bekks> MarkPaul: Until you do, this whole discussion is pointless for hours.
[19:13] <hitsujiTMO> MagePsycho: its which ever one you installed
[19:13] <tomreyn> Dave0101: i guess it'll be in the gconf database then
[19:13] <Seveas> MagePsycho: a good indication would be sudo netstat -pltn | grep :80
[19:13] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, it may not be your issue, but it's definitely a simple check without destroying anything
[19:13] <mmazing> i'm trying to kill the "indicator-datetime-service" process, and whenever i do, it automatically restarts itself, where would i be able to control that?
[19:13] <tomreyn>  /etc/sysconfig is RPM style, you won't find this on ubuntu
[19:14] <lufi> Dave0101, try /etc/network/interfaces
[19:14] <mitchelwb> lid6j86 I'm looking at my bios and can't find anything that even looks similar to EFI though.
[19:14] <Dave0101> lufi, not there. I see lo in there, but no eth0
[19:14] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, how old is your system?
[19:14] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, if it's older than ~2012 it may be that you don't have the options, in which case it's probably a different problem
[19:15] <lufi> Dave0101, is your eth0 up?
[19:15] <Dave0101> tomreyn, no matches for eth0, including key names and values, in gconf db
[19:15] <mitchelwb> lid6j86 I was just wondering the same thing... It doesn't seem like I've had it that long, but looking at the bios info, looks like the current firmware version is dated 12/21/2009!
[19:15] <Yerushalmi> Anyone available to help with my wireless problem? My wifi keeps randomly dropping (usually when the computer is moved or tilted, but not always and not every time) and refuses to reconnect until after a reboot. "lspci -v" before and after droplink shows that "Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 45; Memory at f9fff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]" changes to "Flags: fast...
[19:15] <Yerushalmi> ...devsel, IRQ 45; [virtual] Memory at f9fff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]".
[19:15] <lufi> it seems like your eth0 is not configured
[19:15] <Dave0101> lufi, yes. ifconfig confirms interface is eth0 and it's up.
[19:15] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, if it's 2009 you definitely don't have any EFI options available
[19:15] <Dave0101> lufi, and I'm using it right now. :)
[19:15] <MarkPaul> bekks: thanks for your help, I will try in every way I will find out, when the software is not controlable, I think it's time to deal with hardware. Thanks everyone who used to help me today, I really appreciate it.
[19:16] <mitchelwb> lid6j86 so would that mean that EFI can't be the root of the problem with why I can't access my two partitions?
[19:16] <bekks> MarkPaul: Unless you do know your hardware has an interface to do so, there is no way. Having a stock hardware server, there is no such way.
[19:16] <lufi> Dave0101, i think you can put your custom configuration there
[19:16] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, yes it's definitely not the problem
[19:16] <MagePsycho> hitsujiTMO: not working
[19:16] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, UEFI mode wasn't available until about 2012
[19:17] <bekks> MarkPaul: And you should not run a livecd system for production. Thats the biggest failure in your setup.
[19:17] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, possibly earlier, but certainly not on a wide-spread basis
[19:17] <hitsujiTMO> MagePsycho: did you install a web server? what port is it supposed to be running on?
[19:18] <mitchelwb> lid6j86 if it wasn't around till 2012, and i'm showing 2009, even if it was around, chances are pretty dang slim.  And since I can't find anything related to EFI in the bios, I'm going to say it's not a factor.
[19:18] <Dave0101> lufi, Just go ahead and throw it in interfaces, anyway?
[19:18] <Somelauw_> Can I use the software centre to download xfce or do i need to download xubuntu? The reason I'm asking is that I heard from other people that when they tried to upgrade to kde their desktop broke.
[19:18] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, have you used software specifically tailored for partitioning?  not sure of a Linux equivalent, but something like partition wizard might allow you to see if there isn't something wrong
[19:18] <lufi> Dave0101, yeah. are you planning to make it static?
[19:18] <Dave0101> lufi, Yeah, programmatically.
[19:19] <mitchelwb> lid6j86 not since reinstalling yesterday.
[19:19] <MagePsycho> hitsujiTMO: :(
[19:19] <Somelauw_> Since unity already stopped working, I don't think I got much too lose anyway, but I'm just asking to be sure.
[19:19] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, it might be worth getting a partition wizard boot disk made and load it up to see if you can't find something squirrely in there
[19:19] <hitsujiTMO> MagePsycho: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg --get-selections | grep pastebinit
[19:20] <Dave0101> lufi, Reading NetworkManager docs, sounds like if you've defined an interface in interfaces, NetworkManager will not not handle those devices.
[19:20] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, on their website they have an .iso specifically meant for creating boot cd's
[19:20] <Dave0101> lufi, Which I suppose is fine.
[19:20] <lufi> Dave0101, well that is why it is called networkmanager. it automatically manages the network for you unless you wanted to do some custom stuff
[19:21] <Dave0101> lufi, Sounds like it can anyway.
[19:21] <Dave0101> lufi, Just have to set managed=true in NetworkManager.conf as well.
[19:21] <Baribal> I'm not finding any reference to non-free in the Software Center anymore. Is that repo gone? Is there a .deb for Povray anywhere?
[19:21] <Dave0101> lufi, Thanks for the assist. I'm going to try a few things here. I appreciate the help.
[19:21] <lufi> Dave0101, sure no problem
[19:22] <hitsujiTMO> barcelona1937_: non-free = debian
[19:22] <hitsujiTMO> Baribal: ^
[19:22] <mitchelwb> lid6j86 are you talking about partitionwizard.com?
[19:22] <jhutchins> Baribal: You'll have better luck using the console package management tools.
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> Baribal: restricted + multiverse would be non free branches. theres also the partner repo
[19:23] <MarkPaul> bekks: Thanks for advices once again, anyway I will try to handle with and do my best, maybe I will come here tommorow and inform how are things, and it wasn't a production, just temporary files I didn't copy before it crashed.
[19:23] <Baribal> jhutchins, most of the time, I do use apt and dpkg anyways. But I could have sworn that I once installed Povray on Ubuntu, and now I can't find it.
[19:24] <bekks> MarkPaul: So we spent hours with telling you there is no way to get them back. :P
[19:24] <hitsujiTMO> Baribal: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=lucid&searchon=names&keywords=povray
[19:25] <hitsujiTMO> Baribal: existed before precise
[19:25] <Baribal> Thanks. Wow, that's a long time ago...
[19:26] <lid6j86> mitchelwb, I believe that's the correct place
[19:26] <mitchelwb> ok.  just checking because it appears to be all windows based.
[19:26] <jhutchins> Baribal: Looks like it got dropped after lucid.
[19:27] <jhutchins> Baribal: Looks like blender is the recommended replacement.
[19:28] <Baribal> jhutchins, well, that doesn't really help for rendering Povray files. :)
[19:28] <Yerushalmi> Hey folks. My wifi randomly droplinks (usually when the computer is moved or tilted, but not always and not every time) and refuses to reconnect until after a reboot. "lspci -v" before and after droplink shows that "Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 45; Memory at f9fff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]" changes to "Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 45; [virtual] Memory at f9fff000...
[19:28] <Yerushalmi> ...(32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]". Can anyone help?
[19:29] <hitsujiTMO> Baribal: install from source?   or ppa?
[19:29] <Baribal> hitsujiTMO, actually, I just installed it from the old package. ^^
[19:29] <jhutchins> Baribal: The POV-Ray developers also provide officially-supported binaries for selected platforms (currently only Microsoft Windows, but expected to include OS X shortly).
[19:30] <whoever> Yerushalmi: is this a laptop, and is this also windows 8
[19:30] <Yerushalmi> This is a laptop with ubuntu 12.04.
[19:31] <Yerushalmi> This computer has never had any version of Windows installed on it :p
[19:31] <whoever> Yerushalmi: when you say move computer, what is the signal strenghth be fore you move it , and what is it after, and where are you moving it to
[19:32] <Yerushalmi> whoever: I don't mean move it around. I mean if I'm holding it and cough.
[19:32] <whoever> Yerushalmi: what make and model is it
[19:32] <Yerushalmi> whoever: Which makes me think some kind of connector might be loose, but that only explains the initial disconnect, not the subsequent refusals to reconnect.
[19:32] <Yerushalmi> Dell Inspiron 1520
[19:33] <whoever> Yerushalmi: and where are you in relation to the WAP
[19:33] <jhutchins> Yerushalmi: dmesg | tail -25 right after it drops, less +G /var/log/syslog
[19:34] <MarkPaul> bekks: not really,  I just wanted to understand better how it works to find an appriopriate solution and your answers and others was helpful in some meaning, I also wanted to try everything which is reasonable and may be helpful in such situation before next, more risky trials, there's always some effective way, tommorow it will be known if there i
[19:34] <MarkPaul> s a way or not.l Sorry if I wasted your time.
[19:34] <whoever> jhutchins: i am tring to rule out signal issues  first , and metal obstructions
[19:34] <Yerushalmi> whoever: Never more than one or two rooms away.
[19:34] <AlphonseElric> Hey guys I have a quick question. I'm a real newbie, I'm just starting to learn about Ubuntu and setting up servers. I have a domain in godaddy.com and I want to use a name server for one of my computers. I just wanted to make sure I was at the right tutorial with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[19:34] <jhutchins> Yerushalmi: If you can reliably get it to drop by moving or tilting it's time to start pulling covers.
[19:34] <bekks> MarkPaul: Unless having really expensive special hardware there is no solution to your home made problem.
[19:35] <jhutchins> AlphonseElric: What you need to do is to use godaddy's DNS servers to point the domain at your external IP.
[19:35] <Yerushalmi> jhutchins: I can't, not reliably. When I started hunting around for various commands to compare before and after droplink, I'd often need to bounce the computer on the bed for five minutes before it agrees to droplink. But when I *don't* want it to... :p
[19:35] <jhutchins> AlphonseElric: Running bind yourself is fine for an internal network.
[19:35] <whoever> jhutchins: dell does build with the cheapest parts they have on hand so it could be a loose connection, metal betweat the laptop and WAP or a wifi card just barly in spec
[19:35] <whoever> Yerushalmi: dell does build with the cheapest parts they have on hand so it could be a loose connection, metal betweat he laptop and WAP or a wifi card just barly in spec
[19:35] <Yerushalmi> jhutchins: I'll do dmesg | tail -25. The other command is "less +G /var/log/syslog"?
[19:36] <jhutchins> whoever: Please don't mix FUD with tech support, it's a bad combination.
[19:36] <JoshStrobl> Anyone here familiar with Juju charm development that can help me out? Asked in #juju-dev but never got a reply.
[19:36] <saransh> hi are there any django developers around ?
[19:36] <hitsujiTMO> JoshStrobl: maybe try #juju
[19:36] <jhutchins> This channel is for Ubuntu support, not programming.
[19:37] <mitchelwb> lid6j86 ok, so this is interesting.
[19:37] <jhutchins> Yerushalmi: Yes, can be generally applied to any log.
[19:37] <AlphonseElric> jhutchins: Thanks for the response. I kind of understand what you're saying, basically most of the work needs to be done on the godaddy website correct? So that way the connection goes to my external IP than to my server. I was just wondering because I basically want to set up the server to help my friends and myself share files and uploads for school
[19:37] <hitsujiTMO> JoshStrobl: #ubuntu-server might be helpful too
[19:37] <JoshStrobl> hitsujiTMO: I went ahead and asked in #juju.
[19:38] <mitchelwb> lid6j86 I just booted from partition wizard, and here's what I see... It shows I have two partitions.  one is 916Gb, other is a swap drive and is 15Gb
[19:38] <xerror> hi all. if i eg want to disable the lightdiode on my webcam(board) what would be the right direction to go ? Identify the modul(driver) -> look fot the sourcecode -> change it -> compile it ?
[19:38] <mitchelwb> It is a 1Tb drive that had three partitions on it.  Please don't tell me that this means that when I told it to install over the 12.04 install that it overwrote all three partitions.
[19:39] <John_John_> i have setup a second virtualhost in ubuntu 13.10. i can access both localhost and the new site from my local machine but i can't access the new site remotely. what am i missing ?
[19:39] <bekks> mitchelwb: Looks like you did that.
[19:39] <MarkPaul> bekks: are you just generally speaking or you mean some hardware you can point? I'm just curious
[19:39] <Yerushalmi> jhutchins, whoever: Some additional details about the manner of the droplink. My blinking wifi light suddenly goes dark and stays dark. About five to ten seconds later, I get notification that I got disconnected from my wifi network. Ten seconds after that pops up one of the two types of dialog box asking for my wifi network's password (it never asks for it normally, because I keep it stored...
[19:39] <Yerushalmi> ...and automatically connect). Clicking connect just has the computer wait a short time and pop up the same dialog box again.
[19:40] <whoever> Yerushalmi: because of the coughing disconneect, i am suspecting card and or connection
[19:40] <bekks> MarkPaul: Specialized hardware, which you cant buy in a store, bit only at the vendor directly, pricing is about several ten or hundred thousands of dollars.
[19:40] <xerror> mitchelwb: i agree, if u tell the installer to substutute ur install with the newone it also reformats the hdd i fear.
[19:40] <Yerushalmi> whoever: I'd have no problem with said loose connection if I could *reconnect* afterwards. I don't understand why it demands a reboot.
[19:41] <mitchelwb> bekks: why would it do that?  They were three distinct partitions.  there was no option to tell it what partition to install to.  It recognized that 12.04 was already installed, so why would it wipe out other partitions?  That's asinine.
[19:41] <oknowletsgo> Hi everyone
[19:41] <bekks> mitchelwb: Because you told it to do so.
[19:41] <whoever> Yerushalmi: was you card auto detected by ubuntu , or did you have to go get and install the driver for it
[19:42] <mitchelwb> I had three options.  upgrade 12.04 to 13.10, install 13.10 as a dual boot, or overwrite 12.04.  there was never any question or option what to do with the other partitions.
[19:42] <whoever> Yerushalmi: also how old is that diver
[19:42] <bekks> mitchelwb: So which option did you choose?
[19:42] <oknowletsgo> does someone know when Firefox 27 will be available in Ubuntu Software Center? It's still version 26 and Mozilla released 27 few weeks back now
[19:42] <mitchelwb> Overwrite 12.04.
[19:42] <Yerushalmi> whoever: Autodetected. I in fact reinstalled ubuntu just two weeks ago for unrelated reasons, including all automatic updates, though I had had the same problem before as well.
[19:42] <bekks> mitchelwb: Then it is expected to overwrite everything.
[19:43] <hitsujiTMO> oknowletsgo: 27 is still in proposed atm. no eta
[19:43] <oknowletsgo> hitsujiTMO:  how do you check that?
[19:43] <JoshStrobl> mitchelwb: You should've upgraded from 12.04 to 13.10. The options are pretty clear...
[19:43] <whoever> Yerushalmi: what is your wifi card
[19:43] <mitchelwb> the problem I was trying to resolve was that it wouldn't mount the root.  If I had upgraded or set up a dual boot, I assumed (I didn't think it was a big stretch) that it still wouldn't be able to mount the root partition.
[19:43] <MarkPaul> bekks: but you don't know how it's called or how it does it work, right? I don't deny that it exists and so on, just asking
[19:44] <whoever> YamakasY_: and this is nativly running not virtulized ?
[19:44] <Yerushalmi> whoever: product: PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection       vendor: Intel Corporation
[19:44] <hitsujiTMO> oknowletsgo: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox
[19:44] <mitchelwb> I'm still at a loss why telling it to over write 12.04 would wipe out my partitions and all the data in those partitions.
[19:44] <YamakasY_> whoever: ?
[19:44] <bekks> MarkPaul: It even doesnt matter how it is called, when looking at that pricing. Just out of curiousity.
[19:44] <oknowletsgo> thank you hitsujiTMO
[19:45] <mitchelwb> I expected it to overwrite the root partition.  I used an install disk and managed to manually mount the drives to move all the data I wanted to save off the root partition to the other partitions.
[19:45] <bekks> mitchelwb: Then restore the backups.
[19:45] <d-egg> Hi, when I start some gnome apps (eg gnome-encfs-manager) there are plop sounds for button presses.  Unfortunately that infects the chrome browser and so I need to turn that off.  Please, could anybody tell me how to do that. That would be really nice.
[19:45] <whoever> YamakasY_: is the ubuntu in question the host operating system (this boots up by it self ) or you boot say windows open vm ware and launch ubuntue
[19:45] <YamakasY_> whoever: wtf ?
[19:46] <whoever> YamakasY_: i know it sounds odd but just to make sure your not talking about a virtuaalized version of ubuntu , I am just making sure
[19:46] <mitchelwb> bekks, that's what I want to do.  but I wasn't finding those other two partitions, so I booted from a partition Wizard disc and now I'm seeing that there is only one partition on my HDD.  There were 3 yesterday.
[19:47] <YamakasY_> whoever: I didn't ask a thing
[19:47] <bekks> mitchelwb: BAckups on the same disk are not cosidered to be backups.
[19:47] <MarkPaul> bekks: please don't understand me wrong, but we're talking about some hardware and I stll don't know what you mean exactly so also what we are talking about, you don't make me believed that's impossible, I have to do it on my own ;)
[19:47] <bekks> MarkPaul: Whatever you are talking about. Finally reboot your messed up livecd system.
[19:47] <whoever> YamakasY_: sorry , i had the wrong nic
[19:48] <whoever> Yerushalmi: and this is nativly running not virtulized ?
[19:48] <SDr> hi guys, what is the simplest way to set up a wine server, and surface it via remote desktop connection?
[19:48] <Yerushalmi> jhutchins: I'm going to force a droplink and run those two commands.
[19:48] <mitchelwb> bekks, I agree.  but I was just trying to move the data out of the way so the root could be wiped in the reinstall.  I didn't want to take the time to mount up to the NAS and move the data.  Or have to then go back and clean stuff off the NAS that I didn't really want there.  I assumed it was safe on the other partitions.
[19:48] <bekks> mitchelwb: The "overwrite" option is very clear, whatever you personally expected it to do like "overwrite something, but not everything". So now you have to get your external backup and restore it, or just consider your "data" to be lost.
[19:48] <Yerushalmi> whoever: Yes, natively running.
[19:49] <Yerushalmi> whoever: Brb, trying to force droplink.
[19:49] <Black_Mesa> Hello
[19:49] <mitchelwb> how is it clear that it would over write things on other paritions though?  that doesn't make sense.
[19:49] <whoever> Yerushalmi: and it is a soft switch to turn your wifi on/off or a hard switch
[19:49] <bekks> mitchelwb: "overwrite" means "overwrite, but only a little bit".
[19:49] <jhutchins> mitchelwb: It did what you told it to.
[19:49] <bekks> mitchelwb: Thats the difference.
[19:49] <jhutchins> mitchelwb: "overwrite" is pretty specific.
[19:49] <bekks> mitchelwb: "overwrite" means "overwrite" and not "overwrite, but only a little bit".
[19:49] <mitchelwb> arguing over the concept of what is or isn't a "backup" doesn't change the fact that everyone creates partitions to keep data seperated.
[19:50] <bekks> You told it to overwrite - it did.
[19:50] <MarkPaul> bekks: Thanks for the conversation, it gives me a lot... motivation ;)
[19:50] <jhutchins> mitchelwb: Hey, there's an installation here, you want I should upgrade it or just write over the top of it.
[19:50] <xerror> i guress hes coming from windows where u CAN reinstall to a certain partition without touching the others
[19:50] <bekks> MarkPaul: Until now, honestly, I consider the whole discussion to be pointless.
[19:50] <jhutchins> mitchelwb: How does the installer know which parts of the filesystem are data and which are OS?
[19:50] <xerror> im not sure, is ubuntu installer saying that it also wipe all existing partitions?
[19:51] <mitchelwb> I know what overwrite means, I'm still at a loss why overwriting the OS with a new copy of the OS would also overwrite the partitions that have NO OS DATA
[19:51] <bekks> xerror: It says "I will overwrite everything." and not "just a little bit".
[19:51] <jhutchins> mitchelwb: Because they are PART of the system.
[19:51] <xerror> bekks: but coming from win one might assume OVERWRITING is NOT REAPARTIONING !
[19:52] <jhutchins> mitchelwb: It's smart enough to know non-linux filesystems, but not to know what you have on Linux partitions.
[19:52] <bekks> xerror: Ubuntu is not Windows. Period.
[19:52] <xerror> Bekks?
[19:52] <bekks> xerror: Whatever you assume in Windows is invalid on non-Windows.
[19:52] <mitchelwb> I am perfectly clear that this is not Windows.  But if you parition a HDD in windows, it's standard process, and has been for decades, that you can wipe the C: partition and the remaining partitions are left alone.
[19:52] <jhutchins> mitchelwb: Anyway, too bad that you didn't understand what it was going to do, now you know.
[19:52] <xerror> bekks: u act unfriendly and have a weird attitude. i dont feel u reflecting the spirit of opensource or ubuntu
[19:53] <MarkPaul> bekks: you can be calmed, because I don't need to continue it, I found out what I wanted, sorry once again for the time you wasted.
[19:53] <racer0940> hey guys, installed a new mobo last night and am having issues with drivers, I can't connect to the internet due to this and I don't have a CD-ROM drive, what would be the easiest way to install the drivers?
[19:53] <bekks> xerror: I will not discuss your personal feelings about me in this channel. And I wont do so in a query, too.
[19:54] <xerror> bekks: thank you (-:
[19:54] <Vpex> racer0940: If its a new mobo with different chipsets its practically a new computer, might be easier to reinstall
[19:54] <jhutchins> racer0940: Do you have another system you can download them with?
[19:54] <bekks> xerror: So please leave your personal thoughts about me outside this channel, too. Thank you.
[19:54] <mitchelwb> Ok, so, I can sit here and whine and moan all day that whoever decided this was the right way to do this was a moron.  But that's not going to get my files back.  Do I have any options?  I would be willing to bet my life savings I'm not the first person who has assumed that a partition is a partition and had this happen.
[19:54] <racer0940> I reinstalled ubuntu last night
[19:54] <xerror> bekks: u r welcome (-:
[19:55] <racer0940> I'm on my pc desktop now, and was able to download the drivers, put them on the linux box with a usb, but it requries make
[19:55] <racer0940> which requires prereqs, which require more prereqs
[19:55] <Bsims> mitchelwb: copy the data back from your backup
[19:55] <mitchelwb> Bsims what backup?  Where is it?
[19:55] <xerror> bekks: are u a "official" canonical ?
[19:56] <jhutchins> mitchelwb: There are some file recovery programs.
[19:56] <k1l_> xerror: stop that. focus on technical ubuntu support in here, please
[19:56] <kermyt> ok I have an old drive I need to inspect for data before I wipe it.... it's an LVM setup drive.
[19:56] <jhutchins> There are things like photorec...
[19:56] <jhutchins> !undelete
[19:56] <mitchelwb> Bsims, I copied the files from my root partition to the other partitions on the same physical HDD, but apparently, installing 13.10 overwrote them.
[19:57] <kermyt> usingthis guide to access the data http://linuxers.org/howto/how-mount-linux-lvm-volume-partitions-linux
[19:57] <kermyt> however the last mounting step fails
[19:57] <david38400> I have just changed refilled my ink cartridges on a canon pixma mp250, but an error comes up and I cant get rid of it. Has anybody experienced the same, or is there a solution??? Help please?
[19:57] <xerror> k1l_:sure, no problem. is it inappropriate to ask if smne does help here as his canonical job or just for fun ?
[19:57] <kermyt> └┌(#:/home/kermyt)┌- mount /dev/VolGroup/lv_home /mnt
[19:57] <kermyt> mount: special device /dev/VolGroup/lv_home does not exist
[19:57] <jhutchins> mitchelwb: Sounds like the installer probably formatted the partition, so it's probably not worth the effort, but the above is what's available.
[19:58] <kermyt> even though when I examine the volume that's the name od the home device inside the LVM
[19:58] <xerror> did i violate rules with that, if so, sorry !
[19:58]  * Bsims nods... so the installer did exactly what it said it was going to do.... sorry, copy them onto the updated drive from the backups
[19:58] <bekks> kermyt: Then look up the correct name, using vgs and lvs.
[19:58] <jhutchins> Bsims: I think he's pretty clear he doesn't have backups.
[19:58] <k1l_> xerror: here are no paid supporters. its a community run channel. and you questions are ad hominem. we dont have time for this in here. so again: focus on support
[19:58] <kermyt> bekks, yes I did that that is the correct name I have triple and quadruple checked it
[19:58] <Yerushalmi> jhutchins, whoever: Here is the output of "dmesg | tail -50" (I did -50 because -25 didn't seem to go back far enough): http://pastebin.com/vmznh1D2
[19:58] <jhutchins> Experience is proportional to data destroyed.  mitchelwb has gained experience.
[19:59] <bekks> kermyt: Then pastebin the output of both commands please.
[19:59] <kermyt> ok one sec
[19:59] <hitsujiTMO> jhutchins: +1
[19:59] <racer0940> is there a way to get all the prerequisites in a tar file or something? Of course it's going to be my network drivers that don't work haha
[19:59] <Yerushalmi> jhutchins, whoever: And here is the output of "less +G /var/log/syslog": http://pastebin.com/qGuH5YY3
[19:59] <racer0940> everything else seems to be working fine
[20:00] <Dbugger> hey guys. Weirdest thing. Im trying to configure nginx, so I do "sudo ln -n sites-available/mysite sites-enabled/mysite". Now when I do "cat sites-enabled/mysite" it tells me "too many levels of symbolic link". What is going on???
[20:00] <mitchelwb> the problem is that it was my data that was destroyed, and not Canonicals.  Like I said, this was a standard, and if Canonical wants to be an alternative to Windows for the masses, they need to understand this issue and either handle it appropriately or make it painfully clear that this is going to happen.
[20:00] <Vpex> racer0940: apt-get -d install build-essential
[20:00] <Bsims> mitchelwb: sorry then it sounds like ya are kinda screwed, in the future, to upgrade you don't need to reinstall... follow the steps here:https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[20:00] <jhutchins> Yerushalmi: That looks like you caught the mid-crash output.  dmesg | less +G will let you scroll back.
[20:00] <mitchelwb> you can't dump someones data and then tell them "We just tried to make it easy for you to screw yourself"
[20:00] <kermyt> bekks, http://pastebin.com/67KSLCR0
[20:00] <AlphonseElric> Hey sorry for this kind of question I know you guys aren't godaddy support but when I try pointing the DNS to my local web server godaddy asks for 2 nameservers but I only have 1. I'm not quite sure what's going on :-/
[20:01] <bekks> mitchelwb: you are responsible for your data. So please either restore your backups or face the fact that your data was not that important.
[20:01] <Yerushalmi> jhutchins: *wince* Do I need to reboot again and do that, or can I access it now?
[20:01] <racer0940> don't have internet vpex
[20:01] <jhutchins> Yerushalmi: Give it a try now.
[20:01] <david38400> Does anyone have a printer that is 100% compatible with Ubuntu 12.04 as I am having trouble with my canon pixma mp250
[20:01] <hitsujiTMO> AlphonseElric: you dont point the dns, you point enries in the dns
[20:01] <jhutchins> Yerushalmi: dmesg is cumulative but goes back to boot.
[20:01] <Bsims> ubuntu/debian is very good at upgrading, very rarely do you need to reinstall from scratch
[20:01] <xerror> k1l_:ok, sure, u r right.i was just wondering : if smnes habitus reflects that he has no fun doin what he does, why is he here then if its not a job. But i dont want to disrispect u, so i quit this now.
[20:02] <Yerushalmi> jhutchins: *nods* Then I don't have it. I need to reboot after crash, remember, to reconnect.
[20:02] <mitchelwb> Bsims, like I said though, I couldn't get my root partition to mount.. machine wouldn't boot without the live cd.
[20:02] <Bsims> david38400: just make sure it speakes postscript and it will work perfectly
[20:02] <Yerushalmi> Okay, crashing again now, then, and taking the dmesg output.
[20:02] <Bsims> mitchelwb: ok sounds like grub had gotten corrupted
[20:02] <AlphonseElric> hitsujiTMO: oh I see but, I still don't get why they're asking for 2 name servers. I only have one machine hooked up at the moment
[20:02] <david38400> Bsims: why am I having so many problems then
[20:03] <david38400> I just refilled the ink cartridge and no way will they work
[20:03] <Yerushalmi> (Though I'll note in the "less" output, I backpaged all the way to the very first message after the point at which the crash took place)
[20:03] <mitchelwb> I didn't lose any data save for a few old cell phone pics... everything important was backed up to the NAS.  But there were files that I didn't have on the NAS that I didn't want to lose.  I only lost one file that really upsets me.  And yes, it should have been on the NAS.
[20:03] <jhutchins> xerror: Generally there aren't any professional irc support people on any of the channels.
[20:03] <mitchelwb> I should have put it on the NAS, but didn't want to deal with mounting it just to move that one file.  I assumed it was safe on the other partition and once I had reinstalled I would mount the NAS anyway, I'd move it then.
[20:03] <jhutchins> xerror: Mostly it's just fellow users trying to help out.
[20:03] <hitsujiTMO> AlphonseElric: thats for if you're running your own dns server. what you want to do is edit the dns entries on the godaddy dns. and have whatever domain/subdomain point to your server
[20:04] <xerror> jhutchins: ah, nice. good community spirit. ty (-.
[20:04] <mitchelwb> again, I assume that a super common standard would apply.
[20:04] <mitchelwb> What is the point of even having partitions in Ubuntu if it doesn't respect them?
[20:04] <bekks> mitchelwb: You told Ubuntu to _overwrite_. Thats where the discussion ends.
[20:04] <kermyt> lol xerror you are picking on people that are doing this out of the goodness of thier hearts.
[20:05] <racer0940> I think I've got all the prereqs downloaded (mpfr, mpc, and gmp) and put ont he ubuntu server, is there a way to install these so I can get gcc/make up and running?
[20:05] <mitchelwb> Ubuntu didn't tell me it wasn't going to respect my partitions and that it was going to overwrite them though.  I can't be blamed for not knowing that.
[20:05] <xerror> kermyt: no, im "picking" on noeone, never. im not the kind of personallity who does things like that. sorry man, u must have got somethuing very wrong.
[20:05] <AlphonseElric> hitsujiTMO: I am trying to set up my own DNS server, but I only have one machine at the moment. I was able to setup a local web server, as I mentioned earlier.
[20:05] <bekks> mitchelwb: You choose "overwrite". You did not choose "upgrade" or "dualboot installation".
[20:05] <eflynn> why does setting up ubuntu with LVM use a boot partition?
[20:06] <bekks> mitchelwb: So I am missing the point for valid complaints, honestly.
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> AlphonseElric: ahh ok. in that case: The DNS specifications require that each domain name is served by at least 2 DNS server for redundancy.
[20:07] <bekks> eflynn: Because a separate boot partition ensures that you can boot a rescue system in case your LVM breaks.
[20:07] <jhutchins> mitchelwb: There is informationout there in install guides and wikis that explains what the system does, but there's no way to guarantee that people will read it rather than just download an ISO and run the installer.
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> AlphonseElric: so if you want to do that, then you need to rent a second server
[20:07] <eflynn> bekks: oh
[20:07] <AlphonseElric> hitsujiTMO: OH! Of course, thanks hitsujiTMO. I know I'm causing face-palms right now lol.
[20:07] <eflynn> bekks: LVM is cool, never used it before
[20:08] <jhutchins> mitchelwb: If I had to go through a whole installation guide of explanations and warnings for every machine when I was building 200 a day - well, I wouldn't have been building 200 a day.
[20:08] <mitchelwb> bekks, look at it from my perspective... I spent decades in Windows where partitions are respected.  I've been on Ubuntu for a few years.  I have a machine that won't boot from the root partition, why would I think that upgrading the OS would make it magically mount the partition?  Why would I think a dual boot on the partition would work if a single boot wouldn't?  Why would I think overwriting the root partition would merge and o
[20:08] <ljunggren> such spamz
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> AlphonseElric: have to learn somehow right :)
[20:08] <Yerushalmi> jhutchins, whoever: Okay, here's the full relevant output of dmesg: http://pastebin.com/fmqp00BY
[20:09] <jhutchins> mitchelwb, bekks, this is not about Ubuntu support.  I believe there is an #ubuntu-offtopic where you can discuss the philosophy behind the installer.
[20:09] <AlphonseElric> hitsujiTMO: yeah :)
[20:09] <Yerushalmi> Its start is pretty much the same as the output of less +G /var/log/syslog.
[20:09] <bekks> mitchelwb: Every assumption in the direction "linux will behave the same as my windows does" is a failure. The behaviour of the installer is well documented, and you did not read the documentation. Now you are trying to blame Ubuntu for your mistake not reading the documention and the wrong assumptions you made. This is were I am out of this pointless discussion.
[20:10] <jhutchins> Yerushalmi: I don't see anything useful, it's all after the problem has occurred.
[20:10] <jhutchins> Yerushalmi: What release are you running?
[20:10] <Yerushalmi> jhutchins: 12.04.
[20:11] <Yerushalmi> jhutchines: The line immediately prior to where I started copying has a timestamp far enough earlier that it's clearly irrelevant to the crash.
[20:11] <mitchelwb> jhutchins, bekks, I can drop it.  The data is gone, I can't get it back.  I still contend that there's no point in having partitions if there is no respect for them.
[20:12] <racer0940> is there a list of all the files I need for this thing... I hate to keep asking the same questions, but they keep getting buried
[20:12] <Yerushalmi> jhutchins: I don't have a problem with my wifi droplinking so much as I have a problem with being forced to reboot in order to reconnect.
[20:12] <bekks> mitchelwb: There is no reason for blaming something else when not reading the documentation and making wrong assumptions.
[20:13] <AlphonseElric> hitsujiTMO: This is going to be a dumb question, but if I were to obtain a second machine but I don't have a remote location to set it up in while I still be able to create my own DNS server with it in the same place as my primary server?
[20:13] <Vpex> racer0940: build-essential should be it
[20:13] <jhutchins> Yerushalmi: I'm a bit surprised that an older, stable kernel like that is clearly having internal problems.
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> racer0940: what version of ubuntu
[20:13] <jhutchins> Yerushalmi: System fully updated?  Do you have more than one kernel?
[20:13] <Yerushalmi> I'd rather solve the latter problem than the former. If I droplink for a moment and reconnect shortly I'm golden. Besides, as we already mentioned, the fact that it's often a cough-triggered event points to a hardware issue.
[20:14] <xerror> mitchelwb: "no respect for partitions" does not reflect the way ubuntu works at all. but u may have good chances with recovery since u have a 1tb hdd and the ubu uinsrtall was only a few gb !
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> AlphonseElric: as in both virtual machines on the same physical server?
[20:14] <Yerushalmi> jhutchins: I wiped and reinstalled the entire computer only two weeks ago. Fully updated as part of installation, plus running update manager on a regular basis.
[20:14] <racer0940> 12.04 server I believe
[20:15] <Yerushalmi> jhutchins: The problem predates the reinstallation but wasn't the reason for it.
[20:15] <racer0940> lsb-release isn't working for some reason
[20:15] <xerror> mitchelwb: so the adress space of ur "lost" data may only be unandressed in the partitiontable now and not complete overwritten. u may give it a try
[20:15] <bekks> racer0940: Th command is "lsb_release". Please run "lsb_release -a" and pastebin the entire output.
[20:15] <racer0940> ah underscore
[20:15] <mitchelwb> xerror, I'm not trying to keep beating this horse... but just for my own learning, what is the point of a partition in Ubuntu?
[20:15] <racer0940> 13.04 server
[20:16] <racer0940> one sec, I'll type it out
[20:16] <bekks> mitchelwb: Partitions are for separating data in general.
[20:16] <racer0940> just saw you need the whole thing
[20:16] <AlphonseElric> hitsujiTMO: In order to have a second name server they can't be in the same external IP address correct?
[20:16] <jhutchins> bekks: Will you please drop it or take it to another channel?
[20:16] <jhutchins> mitchelwb: You to.
[20:16] <bekks> jhutchins: I'll drop it. :)
[20:16] <xerror> mitchelwb: its technical, obviously. the extended swap is a swap (-. and u may partition /home. its not a "ubuntu" thing, its a situation u had with this install method.
[20:16] <jhutchins> xerror: And you.
[20:17] <xerror> jhutchind:? mewhat
[20:17] <mitchelwb> xerror, I'm hoping your right that I can somehow find it.  I honestly would be surprised if the data was truly formatted or over written because the install literally took about 2-3 minutes.  Not nearly long enough to format a 1TB drive.  What would be the best tool/approach to try and identify the data?
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> racer0940: ok. well if you want you could create a 12.04 debootstrap environment on another machine, chroot into it, apt-get clean, then install the packages. then all the packages you need are in the apt-cache archive
[20:17] <racer0940> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/aTXYmgQa
[20:17] <jhutchins> !tell mitchelwb about undelete
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> AlphonseElric: correct. both names need to resolve to 2 seperate ips
[20:18] <xerror> mitchelweb: ther elots of forensic tools, i suggest u try a livecd..let me look for a link, gimme a sec
[20:18] <AlphonseElric> hitsujiTMO: Ah, yeah I figured so. Thanks again hitsujiTMO
[20:18] <racer0940> hmm, good idea hitsujiTMO, I might have to try that
[20:18] <xerror> mitchelwb: this may help http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15761/recover-data-like-a-forensics-expert-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/
[20:19] <hitsujiTMO> racer0940: just make sure to apt-get clean, before installing the extra packages
[20:19] <mitchelwb> xerror, very cool.  thanks!
[20:19] <TJ-> Yerushalmi: I *suspect* the issue is with the IWL's power-management settings; it's being put into a low-power mode and is failing to properly resume
[20:19] <racer0940> it's just killing me because I have to do everything on seperate computers here, can't even ssh into the darn thing
[20:19] <xerror> mitchelwb: or this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery u r welcome, good luck (-:
[20:20] <whoever> Yerushalmi: if you restart networking after the crash does your wireless work again  or do you have to restart
[20:22] <TJ-> Yerushalmi: what does this report (assuming the device is wlan0) ? "iwconfig wlan0  | grep Power\ Management"
[20:23] <jhutchins> Yerushalmi: Given that you're willing to reinstall, you can try messing around with alternative kernels as shown here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/330065/ubuntu-12-04-kernel-upgrade-to-3-10
[20:23] <jhutchins> Yerushalmi: There's definitely something about your hardware that the 12.04 kernel doesn't like.
[20:24]  * d-egg realizes that those are warning sounds
[20:24] <TJ-> jhutchins: There are well known WONT FIX issues for Intel wifi, especially iwlegacy, that affects the [34]945 and other models
[20:26] <gaghiel> Hello people
[20:26] <John_John_> what is the correct way to install phpmyadmin in ubuntu 13.10 ?
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: either by the package or from source.
[20:27] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: personally i'd recommend installing from source
[20:27] <ltsampros> Has anyone trouble with marvell yukon/sky2 driver after upgrading to 13.10 ?
[20:28] <John_John_> hitsujiTMO: to have a newer varsion ? is it more difficult to install from source ?
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> John_John_: easier to manage if you're differing from the standard install in anyway. installing from source is simple. you just have to insure you keep it secure
[20:33] <jibcage> I'm trying to install EFI grub for my crunchbang partition. Is there any way that I can do this from Ubuntu's live USB, since it's the only live environment that I've seen so far that supports EFI booting?
[20:33] <alexa> hitsujiTMO, it's me again. I tried to install Ubuntu with UEFI support. After booting from USB (UEFI), and choosing Install Ubuntu, (it's 13.10) it shows Ubuntu Logo and purple background and after that it's blank screen, nothing happens. What should I do?
[20:33] <jibcage> Otherwise I can't do the modprobe efivars thing
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | alexa have a try of this
[20:34] <jibcage> wow, seems like a popular topic.
[20:35] <Beldar> jibcage, I would ask in ##linux
[20:35] <ltsampros> :( sky2 problems anyone ?
[20:36] <Beldar> jibcage, There is #crunchbang
[20:36] <kerosene413> hello ubuntu room
[20:37] <chemist^> hello kerosene413
[20:37] <kerosene413> can anyone here help me with a question?
[20:38] <alexa> hitsujiTMO, I know nomodeset can be used once OS is installed. But can I use it on installation of Ubuntu?
[20:38] <bekks> kerosene413: That depends on your actual question.
[20:38] <tomreyn> !ask | kerosene413
[20:38] <alexa> link shows everything
[20:38] <alexa> thanks!
[20:38] <alexa> I just love UBuntu support :D
[20:38] <phuh> Ubuntu rocks or sucks
[20:39] <chemist^> :)
[20:39] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: when you boot the cd, hit 'e' on the grub menu for ubuntu. then you can edit the linux boot line. append nomodeset after quiet splash, then hit f10 to boot
[20:39] <kerosene413> can you run armitage/metaspoit in ubuntu?
[20:40] <kerosene413> i want to run ubuntu instead of kali, will all the porgrams run on ubuntu?
[20:40] <Yerushalmi> TJ-, whoever, jhutchins: Sorry about that, I had gone to eat something. Back now.
[20:40] <chemist^> kerosene413, of course...if you install them correctly :)
[20:40] <TJ-> Yerushalmi: Did you get all our suggestions?
[20:41] <kerosene413> ok i guess that helps
[20:41] <Yerushalmi> whoever: Restarting networking does absolutely nothing. Until I reboot the computer, the wifi refuses to reconnect.
[20:41] <bekks> kerosene413: We dont know what kali ships with - as longs as applications are available on Ubuntu, too, they will run.
[20:41] <chemist^> i have metasploit framework running on my ubuntu pc with no problems
[20:41] <Vpex> kerosene413: yeah you can, kali is based on debian
[20:41] <Yerushalmi> TJ-: Power Management: off
[20:42] <chemist^> kerosene413, what tools do you want to use?
[20:42] <kerosene413> armitage
[20:42] <Yerushalmi> jhutchins: How much reinstallation would such alternative kernels require?
[20:42] <chemist^> that's just a gui for msfconsole
[20:42] <wrapash> Hi all!
[20:42] <chemist^> kerosene413, shortly the answer is yes, you can, no problems
[20:43] <vimbro> hullo wrapash
[20:44] <kerosene413> is anyone here good at metasploit? I got the ms11-003 exploit to hack a windows 7 pc with ie8 but thats bests ive been able to do
[20:44] <kerosene413> does anyone know an exploit that works on ie11?
[20:44] <TJ-> Yerushalmi: Have you tried it with "options iwl3945 swcrypto=0"
[20:44] <hitsujiTMO> kerosene413: hacking is not supported here
[20:44] <chemist^> kerosene413, that is not an ubuntu related question
[20:44] <kerosene413> is there a channel that does?
[20:44] <chemist^> kerosene413, you should try #metasploit if it exists
[20:45] <kerosene413> its not letting me join
[20:45] <hitsujiTMO> kerosene413: you could also try any security channel
[20:45] <hitsujiTMO> !alis | kerosene413
[20:45] <bekks> kerosene413: Then you have to register your nickname first, most likely.
[20:45] <wrapash> I noticed that the most difficult persons to convert to Linux aren't the noobs but tech-savvies
[20:46] <vimbro> yeah because they are entrenched in their beliefs
[20:46] <k1l_> wrapash: this channel is about ubuntu support. for regular chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:46] <wrapash> You get things like "
[20:46] <wrapash> Ah ok k1l_
[20:47] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. I've read/heard overwriting/scrubbing sdd drives can be difficult (to obliterate data previously stored); is this also true for thumb drives? I ask bc I am using one SSD for an Ubuntu server install and wonder, when the time comes, if I must take a hammer to it. Thanks.
[20:47] <hitsujiTMO> gmachine_24: depends on their implementation
[20:48] <Yerushalmi> TJ-, jhutchins, whoever : Droplinked :( If you said anything since my last message I missed it.
[20:48] <TJ-> Yerushalmi: Have you tried it with "options iwl3945 swcrypto=0"
[20:48] <gmachine_24> hitsujiTMO: hey, how goes it? depends on their implementation ... oh, you're referring to the thumb drives; I guess I'm really interested in the sdd question. sorry about the confusion.
[20:48] <Yerushalmi> TJ-: Assume I've tried nothing  :)
[20:48] <TJ-> Yerushalmi: Try it with "sudo modprobe -r iwl3945 && sudo modprobe iwl3945 swcrypto=0"
[20:49] <TJ-> Yerushalmi: If that seems better, add the option entry permanently into a new file "/etc/modprobe.d/iwl3945.conf" as "options iwl3945 swcrypto=0"
[20:53] <tomreyn> gmachine_24: the major issue in wiping SSDs is that they're too intelligent. they have a controller which is basically a mini computer in your computer, whose task is make sure all the data which needs to get written is written to a block which is still in good condition. wear levelling is a problem there so the firmware of these drives needs to decide where to put data in an intelligent way. unfortunately this also means the operating system can
[20:53] <tomreyn> 't really know where exactly the data is going and can't ensure that it will be writing to a specific physical location on the SSD. so the operating system can hardly wipe it clean.
[20:53] <tomreyn> or not reliably.
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> gmachine_24: different ssd's and thumbdrives have different implementations of wear leveling that can interfere with guaranteeing a complete wipe. Many have more space than advertised as they drop the use of bad blocks when write fails happen and stillretain their full space. if this is the implementation of the ssd you have, then even zeroing the full drive wont wipe every trace of whatever was written to it. you also can't rely on trim, a
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> s it doens't zero an unused block, it just preps it for a write
[20:54] <tomreyn> hehe, looks like i'm not the only one who typed up a longer reply.
[20:54] <hitsujiTMO> tomreyn: :)
[20:54] <gmachine_24> so, a hammer it is.
[20:54] <gmachine_24> thank you.
[20:54] <hitsujiTMO> gmachine_24: shotguns work too
[20:54] <tomreyn> better actually
[20:55] <gmachine_24> hitsujiTMO: sorry. I don't do projectiles..... except when vomiting. but thanks.
[20:55] <tomreyn> melting is best, next best is a shredder
[20:55] <gmachine_24> tomreyn: melting at what temperature.........
[20:56] <tomreyn> dunno, hot enough to make sure it gets all fluid i guess
[20:56] <gmachine_24> tomreyn: assume you're referring to one of those industrial blenders.....
[20:56] <gmachine_24> tomreyn: sounds like a business oppty for a budding entrepreneur (not me); I will check into that. Thanks.
[20:57] <tomreyn> there are specific devices for this type of job
[20:58] <jesusabdullah> Hello friends, I am having a very strange problem with my machine's packages, this is what happens when I run `apt-get -f install` https://gist.github.com/jesusabdullah/52542f4cc1abaabcc099
[20:58] <packetscaper> Hi
[20:58] <jesusabdullah> I am SO confused
[20:59] <bekks> jesusabdullah: Did you run sudo apt-get update before?
[21:00] <jesusabdullah> bekks: Yes
[21:00] <tomreyn> jesusabdullah: post that, too
[21:00] <is_null> hi all, any idea about a disk space issue ? http://dpaste.com/1597580/
[21:01] <gmachine_24> jesusabdullah: when that happens to me I run the autoremove and then try the update with $sudo aptitude update ... etc. seems to work better.
[21:01] <is_null> it looks like i'm out of space according to df, du doesn't know why, and it looks like we're not out of fds nor inodes ... what do you think of that ?
[21:01] <hitsujiTMO> jesusabdullah: 32bit or 64bit?
[21:01] <alexa> hitsujiTMO, I did it with nomodeset. Now I come to the point where it offers me option how to install. I choose something Else, but it doesn't recognize Windows 8. (even though I started UEFI USB installation). Is it because Windows 8 isn't installed with UEFI support? If so, I'll only install Win8 with UEFI support and than UBUNTU installer would recognize it. Is it like that?
[21:01] <bekks> is_null: all your space is filled up. you just have a 2GB /.
[21:02] <is_null> bekks: I have 20GB ;)
[21:02] <is_null> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
[21:02] <is_null> /dev/xvda1 20641404 19593140 0 100% /
[21:02] <is_null> 20641404 B ~= 20641.404KB ~= 20.641404GB
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: win 8 must be installed as uefi on oem systems (ms requirement) ... can you cancel then installer and get to the desktop and we can run some tests to see whats going on
[21:03] <TJ-> is_null 20641404 *1K-blocks*
[21:03] <jesusabdullah> tomreyn: https://gist.github.com/jesusabdullah/52542f4cc1abaabcc099#file-update-log
[21:03] <bekks> is_null: Still, 100% is filled up. Pastebin "du -shx /*" please
[21:04] <jesusabdullah> gmachine_24: it complains very loudly and badly exits when I try to run autoremove
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> jesusabdullah: 32bit or 64 bit install?
[21:04] <is_null> http://dpaste.com/1597601/
[21:05] <jesusabdullah> hitsujiTMO: afaik 64bit
[21:05] <jesusabdullah> hitsujiTMO: yup
[21:05] <bekks> is_null: Look at the sizes to see where you space hogs are.
[21:05] <gmachine_24> I don't think that was a yes or no question
[21:05] <hitsujiTMO> jesusabdullah: start with: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-server_3.2.0.58.69_amd64.deb && sudo dpkg -i linux-server_3.2.0.58.69_amd64.deb
[21:05] <jesusabdullah> What does that do? o__o
[21:06] <jesusabdullah> oh I see
[21:06] <jesusabdullah> derf
[21:06] <gmachine_24> sorry jesus..... I misread. safely ignore my posts.
[21:06] <zack_> knome_: are you here
[21:06] <tomreyn> jesusabdullah: are you behind a proxy? because it seems your package information is outdated, but apt-get update is not aware
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> jesusabdullah: then: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-image-server_3.2.0.58.69_amd64.deb && sudo dpkg -i linux-image-server_3.2.0.58.69_amd64.deb
[21:06] <is_null> i'm sorry, I don't understand how you get to "there is only 2 gigs of total disk space" from "there are 20641404 *1K-blocks*"
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> jesusabdullah: then sudo: apt-get -f install
[21:07] <zack_> #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:07] <bekks> is_null: df -h says "you are out of space", and du -shx /* tells you where your space hogs are.
[21:08] <k1l_> is_null: you got 1,3GB in /home. remove smth big from there to get a working system again
[21:08] <is_null> i'm sorry, you guys are unable to count
[21:08] <souredfrog> rofl
[21:08] <is_null> http://dpaste.com/1597601/
[21:08] <bekks> is_null: And your / is filled up ;)
[21:08] <is_null> 1.3G/home+238M/lib+1.2G/usr+528M/var
[21:09] <is_null> how much GB is that please ?
[21:09] <bekks> is_null: Well, then pastebin df -i
[21:09] <is_null> yeah, that's in the first dpaste: http://dpaste.com/1597580/
[21:09] <jesusabdullah> hitsujiTMO: my God it appears running those in the right order helped a lot
[21:09] <k1l_> is_null: what gives df -h ?
[21:10] <is_null> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[21:10] <is_null> /dev/xvda1       20G   19G     0 100% /
[21:10] <is_null> thanks k1l_
[21:10] <jesusabdullah> tomreyn: It *is* a vps, it's possible it's configured with an outgoing proxy
[21:10] <alexa> hitsujiTMO, ok, I didnt start installation yer. WHat shall I do? Run Ubuntu USB live? I will follow your instructions
[21:11] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: get into the "try ubuntu" mode
[21:11] <gmachine_24> alexa, USB live is fairly quick, at least compared to running off a cd or dvd
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: then open the terminal and run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit gdisk && sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[21:12] <TJ-> is_null: Do you ever mount another file-system inside the rootfs, say for backup? Is is possible you've currently got it masking a rootfs dir that contains a large quantity of data. Can you show us "mount" ?
[21:12] <alexa> ok
[21:12] <is_null> http://dpaste.com/1597625/ mount
[21:12] <jesusabdullah> thanks hitsujiTMO o/
[21:13] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: actually sorry: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit gdisk && sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[21:13] <gmachine_24> alexa, you can open a terminal via Cntrl+Alt+T
[21:13] <alexa> will be done
[21:13] <alexa> gmachine i know that
[21:13] <TJ-> is_null: Alternatively: "sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp && mount /dev/xvda1 /mnt/tmp && du -hsx /mnt/tmp && umount /mnt/tmp"
[21:13] <gmachine_24> alexa, ok, I never know.
[21:13] <k1l_> is_null: since its a vserver it still could be some problem with the host
[21:14] <TJ-> k1l_: is_null I tend to agree, as there's no masking mount on the rootfs
[21:16] <Ampelbein> is_null: Don't know if you already checked, what does "tune2fs -l /dev/xvda1" say for reserved blocks?
[21:16] <alexa> paste.ubuntu.com/6905713/
[21:16] <alexa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6905713/
[21:17] <is_null> root@upload:/var/cache/apt# mkdir /mnt/tmp && mount /dev/xvda1 /mnt/tmp && du -hsx /mnt/tmp && umount /mnt/tmp
[21:17] <is_null> 3.2G	/mnt/tmp
[21:18] <TJ-> is_null: OK, so it's likely the host has over-committed storage. Talk to the host admin support
[21:18] <alexa> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6905713/
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: it does appear to be installed in legacy mode alright. so reboot to the usb live cd in legacy mode.
[21:19] <alexa> ok
[21:19] <alexa> 3 mins
[21:19] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: did you get the pc like that or was win 8 installed seperately?
[21:19] <is_null> http://dpaste.com/1597653/ Ampelbein
[21:19] <is_null> Ampelbein: i'm curious, what are you looking for ?
[21:20] <is_null> TJ-: I talked to the host admin and they said they hadn't disk space issue and that disk space "would" (quoting) be pre-allocated
[21:20] <Ampelbein> is_null: You can reserve X% (I think it's 5 per default) of space for root, in case the filesystem runs full - to let the admin do stuff.
[21:20] <alexa> hitsujiTMO, it's my brother's Laptop. He installed it separately
[21:21] <Ampelbein> is_null: It's in the "Reserved Block count".
[21:21] <Ampelbein> is_null: But in your case, everything is normal.
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: ahh that explains why its installed in legacy mode then
[21:21] <is_null> nice, thanks Ampelbein
[21:22] <alexa> hitsujiTMO, I started usb live in legacy mode --- still wont recognize windows 8
[21:22] <alexa> should I then reinstall windows 8 or what?
[21:22] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: get to "try ubuntu" again and we'll have a look at os-prober
[21:22] <alexa> ok
[21:22] <TJ-> is_null: Is there a recovery console you can access, which would allow you to reboot to it, mount this rootfs, and fsck it? If you do a straight reboot it *should* fsck itself but if it gets messed up you'll be stuck worse than you are now.
[21:23] <alexa> hitsujiTMO, I'm in. Now what?
[21:23] <eflynn> hi
[21:24] <eflynn> how do you install gnome-shell?
[21:24] <TJ-> is_null: I'm wondering if there could be a massive unlinked file, created by some process, you might detect that through scanning /proc/*/fds/ using a script to look for deleted files
[21:24] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo os-prober | pastebinit
[21:24] <Beldar> eflynn, what release?
[21:24] <eflynn> Beldar: of ubuntu? 13.10
[21:25] <k1l_> eflynn: install "gnome-shell"
[21:25] <is_null> TJ-: what script ?
[21:25] <k1l_> and then choose that on the login screen as desktop
[21:25] <Beldar> eflynn, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[21:25] <eflynn> Beldar: yes!
[21:26] <alexa> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6905755
[21:26] <Beldar> eflynn, That commands gets you all the gnome 3 goodies
[21:26] <eflynn> Beldar: Now why was that so hard? :)
[21:26] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: ok, so its able to see windows.
[21:27] <jhutchins> !gnome-shell
[21:28] <eflynn> Beldar: can i uninstall unity while i'm at it?
[21:28] <TJ-> is_null: Try this "  stat $(ls -l /proc/{1..9}*/fd/* 2>/dev/null | grep deleted | awk '{print $9}') | grep -A1 'File:'   "
[21:28] <alexa> hitsujiTMO, if it sees Windows, why doesn't it show it when I choose 'something else' on installation?
[21:29] <Beldar> eflynn, If you had a meta list of the ubuntu desktop I would say yes, otherwise it is tiny I would leave it.
[21:29] <is_null> http://dpaste.com/1597723/ output of ls -lR /proc | grep deleted
[21:29] <is_null> ok
[21:29] <TJ-> is_null: actually, no, that needs the symlinks dereferencing... hang on
[21:29] <TJ-> is_null: Here:  "  stat -L $(ls -l /proc/{1..9}*/fd/* 2>/dev/null | grep deleted | awk '{print $9}') | grep -A1 'File:'  "
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: i'm wondering if it has anything to do with the 4 used primary partitions. it could be that ubuntu cant install to a windows extended partition (just guessing at that, not had the pleasure of testing that sort of setup before)
[21:30] <Beldar> eflynn, gnome 3 underlies unity, messing with it could cause problems in the shell.
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: wait
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: i think i know that the issue might be
[21:32] <is_null> TJ-: http://pub.yourlabs.org/deleted
[21:32] <bekks> alexa: having four primary partitions already used, you cannot creat any more partitions.
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: he may have installed windows as mbr after it was originally formatted as gpt. so ubuntu is seeing the gpt table and reading the disk as empty
[21:32] <alexa> hitsujiTMO, the reason it has 4 partitions is that on installation of windows, brother made 2 partitions
[21:32] <alexa> win creates one more
[21:32] <jhutchins> hitsujiTMO: Not a primary-vs-extended issue.
[21:32] <jhutchins> hitsujiTMO: The installer doesn't see a difference.
[21:32] <alexa> plus I created one more (shrinking one to get some space) for wubi
[21:32] <alexa> but I deleted wubi
[21:33] <TJ-> is_null: There's your problem! 16GB of unlinked files still hanging around
[21:33] <alexa> I am open for anything you propose. Should I remove one partition from Windows?
[21:33] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: sudo apt-get install gdisk
[21:34] <alexa> did it
[21:34] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: sudo fixparts /dev/sda
[21:35] <is_null> TJ-: Yeah ! processes 3477 and 3525 don't even exist anymore  according to ps aux
[21:35] <hitsujiTMO> alexa, does that ask you to fix the partition table?
[21:36] <alexa> Notice: GPT signatures detected on disk, but no 0xEE protective partition! The GPT signatures are probably left over from  a previous table. Do you want to delete them? Y/N
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: Y
[21:36] <TJ-> is_null: "cat /proc/{3477,3525}/cmdline"
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: then hit w to write, q to quit
[21:36] <alexa> done writing data
[21:37] <alexa> exited automatically
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: reboot and start the installation
[21:37] <alexa> back to ubuntu@ubuntu
[21:37] <alexa> ok
[21:37]  * whitehat now http://unhacker.org is open for public you can gain author access register button is on top left
[21:37] <alexa> :)
[21:37] <is_null> TJ-: yeah, i know those processes they were coded by a student before I was recruited
[21:37] <alexa> should I do with UEFI or in legacy?
[21:37] <alexa> hitsujiTMO, should I do with UEFI or in legacy?
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: legacy
[21:37] <alexa> ok
[21:38] <TJ-> is_null: Are they safe to be -KILLed ?
[21:38] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: always do the same as the existing OS
[21:38] <is_null> TJ-: i wish i know
[21:38] <is_null> i can't reach the guy who set them up
[21:39] <Samopotamus> I have a hard drive mounted as a NAS in DD-WRT.  I want to mount this NAS over the internet on a Linux computer so that it can push files to said NAS.  What is the best way to go about this?  SSHFS?  NFS?  I only see SMB and FTP as explicitly supported methods in DD-WRT.
[21:40] <Yerushalmi> TJ-: Experiment failed. Those commands merely caused my wifi to get stuck on "Connecting..." mode until I rebooted.
[21:40] <Yerushalmi> TJ-: I also tried those commands after I deliberately caused a droplink; they removed Wireless entirely from the list of possible connection options.
[21:41] <TJ-> Yerushalmi: It sounds as if there could be a hardware issue. Have you tried removing and re-seating the WiFi adapter (if possible) ?
[21:41] <is_null> TJ-: is it the only way i'm getting that space back ?
[21:42] <Yerushalmi> TJ-: I plan to tomorrow; it's rather late. I'll need to figure out where it is (and I'm concerned that it's probably an integrated one)
[21:42] <TJ-> is_null: The space is allocated, the process has unlinked but until the process exits (unless there is some way to control the process to release (close) the files) the space is still in-use.
[21:43] <TJ-> Yerushalmi: If it is a laptop they are usually mini PCI cards, possibly presenting a USB interface
[21:43] <is_null> TJ-: it sounds like the processes open()'d the file but never close()'d them right ?
[21:43] <TJ-> is_null: Yes, and kept on writing to them by the look of it!
[21:44] <is_null> thanks a lot TJ-
[21:44] <Yerushalmi> TJ-: I'll try.
[21:45] <Yerushalmi> TJ-: Thing is, I think I have both a hardware issue and a software issue. The hardware issue causes the linkdrop when the computer is in any way jogged, but something software is preventing it from disconnecting until I reboot. Is it possible to manually reboot *just* the driver or something like that?
[21:48] <eflynn> I installed linux-image-virtual on saucy. I looked at the package description and it says "This package will always depend on the latest minimal generic kernel image." What's up with that?
[21:48] <TJ-> Yerushalmi: Only if the driver is no longer in use, but the look of that crash backtrace doesn't look good for that
[21:49] <TJ-> eflynn: nothing, what should be?
[21:49] <eflynn> TJ-: it doesn't seem to be a separate kernel
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> eflynn: theres only 1 kernel now
[21:49] <eflynn> hitsujiTMO: oh
[21:50] <TJ-> eflynn: It isn't, it *depends* on the current latest minimal (formerly JeOS) kernel
[21:50] <hitsujiTMO> eflynn: it exists so anyone coming from a previous release has an upgrade path
[21:51] <eflynn> what was the point of having a "virtual" kernel then
[21:51] <Yerushalmi> TJ-: Can I somehow shut down the driver and then turn it back on, or something like that? Anything like that?
[21:51] <TJ-> eflynn: specifically, "linux-image-virtual" is a kernel built specifically for VMware and KVM virtual machine guests. It only contains the minimum drivers known to be needed by those, rather than having *ever* module just-in-case as the regular kernels do.
[21:52] <eflynn> TJ-: that's what I thought... so they stopped doing that?
[21:52] <TJ-> eflynn: Not that I know of, the minimal (formerly JeOS) kernel is now known as the "minimal" install for ubuntu-server
[21:52] <alexa> hitsujiTMO: I have installed Ubuntu about 100 times. Maybe this question would be little stupid, but what do you think, what's the best ratio of space for / and space for /home? Or if expressed in GB, how many GB would you assign to / ?
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> eflynn: its removed as people ran into issues migrating a system from vm to phyical machine. the kernel can't boot on physical hardware because of the lack of drivers
[21:54] <eflynn> hitsujiTMO: that makes sense
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: honestly it depends on what you're installing. 20-30gb is usually perfect for most for /            ... personally i don't have a seperate /home
[21:54] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: looks like the server docs need updating on that score
[21:54] <TJ-> Yerushalmi: I'd doubt it, the crash is too severe
[21:54] <frederic> Good evening all
[21:55] <frederic> I don't know if this the right place but I'll just go ahead with my question...
[21:55] <eflynn> TJ-: so... the "minimal" kernel is linux-image-generic?
[21:55] <frederic> I'm on ubuntu 12.04 and I'm trying to get Wurm Online running
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: its in the doc: Note: Since 12.04, there is no difference in kernel between Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server since linux-image-server is merged into linux-image-generic
[21:55] <Yerushalmi> Tj-:Probably is a hardware thing. I'll open up the computer tomorrow if these damn coughing fits leave me alone for a bit :p
[21:55] <frederic> when the loading of the game completes the game totally hangs
[21:56] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: just they forgot to mention virtual too
[21:56] <frederic> if I run it in console I see the error thrown is:
[21:56] <frederic> pass_linear_scan:932 - out of registers
[21:56] <frederic> some googling told me this could have to do with the nouveau driver I'm using
[21:56] <frederic> What guys would you suggest to try and fix this?
[21:57] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: One of the 'cloud' devs was telling us last week, that the JeOS kernel was integrated into the server install but still existed as a true minimal
[21:57] <frederic> Try a nvidia driver?
[21:57] <alexa> hitsujiTMO: for /, it already has chosen to be logical partition (remember that I removed the forth partition from windows). Should I set it to be primary?
[21:57] <aruz> hi
[21:57] <frederic> Try to upgrade mesa? (currently running 8)
[21:57] <eflynn> I have an ubuntu 12.04LTS server, should i bother upgrading the kernel? it looks like there are some backports
[21:58] <bekks> eflynn: Just use the saucy LTS enablement stack.
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: no keep as logical, it must be logical with your current partition layout
[21:58] <alexa> hitsujiTMO: one more question, when I googled, I found something like it's necessary to leave some space for /boot (when dual OS). Is that true? I mean, there is already one partition reserved for Windows 8 loader.
[21:58] <frederic> anyone suggestions, or a channel where I should go to?
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: well. it is, just its not a minimal kernel
[21:59] <alexa> currently I'm doing with partitions. Now is the moment without return XD
[21:59] <aruz> heee
[21:59] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: yeah, the specific point being addressed was the minimal size of the kernel vmlinuz and associated modules
[22:00] <frederic> also my hdmi sound output is not working
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: altho, since 13.10 there doesn't seem to be a minimal install anymore, so that might be gone in 14.04
[22:01] <aruz> hee
[22:01] <alexa> hitsujiTMO: do I need to create that /boot or 'the 367MB Windows 8 loader partition' that already exists is fine?
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: ahh yeah. i hope they bring the kernel back some day, its kind of nice to have the option and not have to customise optimise the kernel yourself
[22:01] <aruz> :P
[22:01] <Guest90836> Hi
[22:01] <Guest90836> someone there?
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: no need for a seperate boot
[22:02] <alexa> ok
[22:02] <alexa> thanks :D
[22:02] <bekks> alexa: That windows partition is unusable by grub,
[22:02] <Guest90836> hi Guys
[22:02] <bekks> alexa: It has the wrong filesystem on it.
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: /, /home and swap is all you want
[22:02] <Guest90836> I need install ubuntu on lenovo G400
[22:02] <alexa> ok
[22:02] <Guest90836> someone help?
[22:02] <eflynn> wow pretty lively in here
[22:03] <Guest90836> I need install ubuntu on lenovo G400 someone help me?'
[22:03] <Guest90836> I need install ubuntu on lenovo G400 someone help me?'
[22:03] <Guest90836> I need install ubuntu on lenovo G400 someone help me?'
[22:03] <Guest90836> I need install ubuntu on lenovo G400 someone help me?'
[22:03] <Guest90836> I need install ubuntu on lenovo G400 someone help me?'
[22:03] <Guest90836> I need install ubuntu on lenovo G400 someone help me?'
[22:03] <Guest90836> I need install ubuntu on lenovo G400 someone help me?'
[22:03] <Guest90836> I need install ubuntu on lenovo G400 someone help me?'
[22:03] <Guest90836> I need install ubuntu on lenovo G400 someone help me?
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90836: stop that
[22:03] <abc_harold> we could if you stopped
[22:03] <eflynn> spam
[22:03] <alexa> Guest90836: be patient
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> !patience | Guest90836
[22:03] <Guest90836> ohhh Im sory
[22:04] <alexa> bekks: you want to tell me, I need to customize grub once I finish installation?
[22:04] <alexa> oh man
[22:04] <Guest90836> I dont know how answer here
[22:04] <abc_harold> Guest90836: can't you just stick the iso on a usb or cd?
[22:04] <Guest90836> Im new
[22:04] <bekks> alexa: No. I said: that partition is not usable by grub.
[22:04] <bekks> alexa: You dont need a separate /boot as was pointed out before.
[22:04] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: no, you'll be fine. just ignore the exiting windows partitions and create those 3 partitions that you need
[22:04] <hitsujiTMO> existing*
[22:05] <Guest90836> abc_harold, thanks, and yes I burn the image on usb stick
[22:05] <alexa> ok
[22:05] <Guest90836> it boots.. menu for select; try or install appears
[22:05] <abc_harold> Guest90846: just reboot with it in, and hit the boot menu key to select it
[22:05] <Guest90836> but later ..
[22:05] <abc_harold> oh sorry
[22:05] <abc_harold> later...
[22:05] <Guest90836> black screen appear and not boot
[22:05] <Guest90836> sorry
[22:05] <Guest90836> not start
[22:06] <bekks> !nomodeset | Guest90836
[22:06] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | Guest90836
[22:06] <hitsujiTMO> beaten too me :(
[22:06] <hitsujiTMO> beaten too it* :(
[22:06] <bekks> \o/
[22:06] <abc_harold> lol yeah read that
[22:07] <Guest90836> Guys abc_harold and hitsujiTMO
[22:07] <Guest90836> thanks
[22:08] <papepu> d
[22:08] <Guest90836> thanks for that I will try that
[22:08] <abc_harold> no prob ;) thats why we're here
[22:08] <_ORumpelschutz> Hey all1
[22:08] <_ORumpelschutz> I have some questions to ubuntu
[22:08] <_ORumpelschutz> Am I right here to ask them?!
[22:08] <abc_harold> yep
[22:08] <_christian> thanks guys
[22:09] <`MAstell`> okay
[22:09] <`MAstell`> I have a PC with i5 4570 and 8 GiG memory
[22:09] <`MAstell`> My Linux experience is good!
[22:10] <abc_harold> it should be on that hardware lol!
[22:10] <`MAstell`> I definately want to have unity ubuntu
[22:10] <`MAstell`> but shell I pick 12.04.4 or 13.10 or 14.04?!
[22:10] <bekks> `MAstell`: 12.04
[22:10] <chemist^> 12.04 is LTS, so i'd go with that :)
[22:11] <ianorlin> is it a uefi motherboard though?
[22:11] <`MAstell`> Is .4 more stable than .1 or .2?
[22:11] <chemist^> (long term support)
[22:11] <`MAstell`> Could you notice a difference?!
[22:11] <ianorlin> no it is a month
[22:11] <chemist^> it's the up-to-date version
[22:11] <hitsujiTMO> `MAstell`: if you're asking that question, then 12.04 is the only answer
[22:11] <`MAstell`> okay...
[22:11] <bekks> 12.04 is supported until 2017.
[22:11] <`MAstell`> Well another qquestion
[22:11] <abc_harold> yeah go lts if you dont want to upgrade too often
[22:11] <`MAstell`> what kernel does 12.04.4 have?
[22:12] <bekks> `MAstell`: With latest LTS enablement stack, 3.11
[22:12] <`MAstell`> ah cool!
[22:12] <`MAstell`> 3.11 is up to date, nice! :)
[22:12] <chemist^> ;)
[22:14]  * chemist^ goes to smoke a phat one :P
[22:23] <alexa> hitsujiTMO: it's on half way of installation, cant wait to finish. I am happy. I will write mini tutorial and will ask you to put it on forum, it might help someone (cause I don't have ubuntu forum account). I'll write the post on local (serbian) ubuntu forum mini tutorial, about this. Thanks!
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: np
[22:28] <PaulChain> Question why is it on my older laptop I can play wow with good fps but on this new laptop with the ati 8400m intergrated graphics I get really crappy fps
[22:29] <Arcanis_> Hello. Got a quick question.
[22:29] <abc_harold> fire away
[22:29] <Arcanis_> Alright, I have a dual boot set up. Windows 7 and PinGuyOS.
[22:29] <Arcanis_> When I set up pinguy, for some reason it broke my MBR.
[22:30] <k1l_> Arcanis_: ask the pinguy support about what is going wrong there
[22:30] <Arcanis_> Well what I was wanting to do.
[22:30] <Arcanis_> Was remove pinguy and replace it with ubuntu 13.10
[22:30] <abc_harold> ah ok
[22:30] <PinkSwing> Hi. Youtube will not go full screen on both Chrome and Firefox. The screen shows the video smaller than the screen even though my monitor matches the aspect ratio of the videos. BBC iplayer does go full screen. I don't know if this is also a problem on other operating systems.
[22:31] <abc_harold> PinkSwing: check if you are using the html5 player by right clicking, it has some bugs still
[22:31] <Arcanis_> So if I extract the ISO and put it on a flash drive, I'm guessing I can boot from that drive? And then does it have the utilities to remove pinguy?
[22:31] <candace> can anyone familiar with kernels help me out
[22:31] <abc_harold> Arcanis_: use universal usb installer if on windows
[22:31] <Arcanis_> Alright.
[22:32] <bekks> Arcanis_: Just dd it to the flash drive, dont extract it.
[22:32] <abc_harold> ^ this on linux
[22:32] <Arcanis_> Then does the ubuntu installer have the utilities to remove pinguy and it's partition?
[22:32] <k1l_> Arcanis_: you can install ubuntu over that paritions
[22:33] <Arcanis_> Ok great.
[22:33] <k1l_> *partitions
[22:33] <PinkSwing> abc_harold: It's using flash player
[22:33] <abc_harold> yes, you may have to enter advanced mode or delete partition from within windows first
[22:33] <Arcanis_> Thanks guys.
[22:33] <Arcanis_> I can handle that.
[22:33] <bobenhaus> Hello all
[22:33] <dilligafoo> Hello there bobenhaus
[22:33] <Arcanis_> Anyone have a clue why the MBR might get broken by grub?
[22:34] <Arcanis_> or how to replace it?
[22:34] <abc_harold> PinkSwing: I haven't noticed any probs on my windows, have you tried updating flash?
[22:34] <bekks> !grub2 | Arcanis_
[22:34] <bobenhaus> I have a questions concerning my scren alignment when  programs arent open in max mode
[22:34] <winny> hello i am benchmarking some language features of python and am curious if it's safe to disable cron.daily, cron.hourly, cron.weekly, and cron.monthly temporarily?
[22:34] <dilligafoo> Hello there winny
[22:34] <abc_harold> Arcanis_: it probably didn't check for windows, boot from windows cd and click repair
[22:35] <Arcanis_> I did that. I even used the console from the repair utility and ran the commands for backing up and replacing the mbr.
[22:35] <bobenhaus> My screen doesnt look aligned right when a program windows isnt open up all the way?  Any suggestions?
[22:35] <Arcanis_> But thanks. If I'm dual booted I guess I won't need it.
[22:35] <abc_harold> Arcanis_: bootrec /fixmbr and bootsec /nt60 all?
[22:35] <Arcanis_> Yes I did that.
[22:35] <bobenhaus> I'm guessings its the nivida drivers:(
[22:36] <abc_harold> Arcanis_: it still doesn't boot?
[22:36] <Arcanis_> Not without grub2.
[22:36] <alexa> hitsujiTMO: much of the log I've lost in xchat, so I copied all I could save : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6906073/
[22:36] <Arcanis_> The fix was reinstalling pinguy.
[22:36] <alexa> I will make the mini tutorial from your words :)
[22:36] <Arcanis_> But I don't want it on there forever, so I'm putting ubuntu. I was only testing pinguy.
[22:36] <alexa> but not today
[22:36] <alexa> when I get some free time
[22:37] <abc_harold> Arcanis_: strange, don't know why it didn't fix it
[22:37] <Arcanis_> Me either.
[22:37] <Arcanis_> I'll try after replacing with ubuntu
[22:37] <Arcanis_> Maybe pinguy did some weird stuff to it.
[22:37] <PinkSwing> abc_harold: I have Adobe flash player 11.2 r202. According to the Adobe website this will be the last version to target linux as a supported platform. I notice they are on 11.2.202.336. I don't know if mine is .336. How would I check?
[22:37] <Arcanis_> Thanks for the help.
[22:37] <jonascj> Hi all. I am trying to compile pdfpc on ubuntu 12.10 and it needs gtk+ 2.x
[22:37] <abc_harold> bobenhaus: open up additional drivers and try a proprietary one
[22:38] <jonascj> any suggestions on what package gtk+ 2.x might be?
[22:38] <bobenhaus> abc_harold, ok thanks alot
[22:38] <ka> can we descuss this in a reasinable form
[22:38] <bobenhaus> I
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> alexa: lol, np. just so you know, the channel is logged and logs are available online http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/02/09/%23ubuntu.txt
[22:38] <bobenhaus> abc_harold, I'm already using nvidia drivers
[22:38] <abc_harold> PinkSwing: doesn't it show if you right click on flash content and click about?
[22:38] <abc_harold> bobenhaus: try switching to a beta one or the open source one
[22:39] <bobenhaus> ok thanks
[22:39] <PinkSwing> abc_harold: Yes and I am on the latest Adobe flash. I just enable googles pepflash and that does go fullscreen. Only thing is it doesn't stay fullscreen when I click on my second screen
[22:40] <abc_harold> PinkSwing: it will if you have the vid playing, im sure
[22:40] <dilligafoo> 3.141592653589793
[22:40] <jhutchins> PinkSwing: That's how it works.
[22:40] <dilligafoo> 3.141592653589793
[22:41] <abc_harold> PinkSwing: google pepflash is in chrome, and will keep being developed i think
[22:41] <dilligafoo> 3.141592653589793
[22:41] <IdleOne> dilligafoo: we have no pie here, only cookies for great helpers
[22:41] <dilligafoo> 3.141592653589793
[22:41] <SonikkuAmerica> dilligafoo: Spam that one more time and see what happens... :<
[22:42] <zack_> please
[22:42] <zack_> comeon
[22:42] <aaas> anyone ever automatically cut out commercials from recorded video .ts file with an .edl file using ffmpeg/mplayer/etc?  I have the .edl file, I just want to know, in general, how to cut a video file with ANY tool in linux (or windows)
[22:43] <abc_harold> yes zack_?
[22:43] <Flannel> zack_: You've been asked not to do that here, you know this.
[22:43] <zack_> do what
[22:43] <SeekaNet> probably evade bans set by channel staff
[22:43] <wgwinn> Are there any known issues using either 12.10 server or 12.04 server on an e-350 based board? I can launch 'install this system' but then the keyboard stops responding, lighting up the numlock key while a key is pressed for all keys
[22:43] <zack_> hello
[22:44] <dilligafoo> Hello there zack_
[22:44] <zack_> hi
[22:44] <PinkSwing> abc_harold: No. With the video playing full screen, when I click on the other monitor, fullscreen is lost. I understand from this article http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/ubuntu-multi-monitor-tweaks-full-screen.html that this is by design so I have been hacking Adobe flash player as suggested using ghex to prevent this behaviour. Anyone know how to make pepper flash stay fullscreen when working on another monitor?
[22:44] <zack_> hello
[22:44] <dilligafoo> Hello there zack_
[22:44] <zack_> hi
[22:44] <usr13> aaas: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/top5-linux-video-editing-system-software/
[22:45] <k1l_> dilligafoo: stop that script, please
[22:45] <zack_> who are you
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> wgwinn: Not to deter you, but can you ask that in #ubuntu-server if you haven't already?
[22:45] <aaas> usr13 know if any of them do autocuts with edl files?
[22:45] <zack_> hello
[22:45] <dilligafoo> Hello there zack_
[22:45] <usr13> aaas: I don't know
[22:45] <aaas> yeah im not sure there are any tools except maybe ffmpeg/mplayer...but nto sure
[22:46] <wgwinn> Sure, didn't realize there was a seperate channel. Trying to download the desktop version to try that now.
[22:46] <abc_harold> PinkSwing: works like that on windows, not sure of any other work around, sorry
[22:46] <abc_harold> wgwinn: isn't there an f key in the boot screen for selecting special kbs?
[22:47] <PinkSwing> abc_harold: That's kind of annoying
[22:49] <abc_harold> PinkSwing: did you say it does this in ff too?
[22:49] <samer> so one of the selling points for ubuntu phone is that you can go from phone to desktop
[22:49] <samer> are there any phone docks in the wild?
[22:49] <PinkSwing> abc_harold: Yes. Firefox doesn't display full screen properly. Of course pepflash is only in chrome
[22:50] <abc_harold> hmm.. have you tried html5 instead http://www.youtube.com/html5
[22:50] <wgwinn> abc_harold: F6 allows to edit the boot line, f4 to change some install options (normal, oem, minimal) but I didn't see anything specifically 'pick a special keyboard.  I've tried the options I could see, but it's a standard logitech mk120 US keyboard on an E-350 board.
[22:52] <Mysticalburrito> Hi
[22:52] <abc_harold> wgwinn: is it usb? try toggling usb emulation in the bios maybe?
[22:52] <Mysticalburrito> I need help with my computer
[22:52] <abc_harold> fire away
[22:53] <PinkSwing> abc_harold: That does the trick on youtube but not on BBC iplayer which is still using flash
[22:53] <Mysticalburrito> After upgrading to Ubuntu 12.10 my computer boots to the bootscreen but soon after switches to a black screen with a white cursor that blinks
[22:53] <Mysticalburrito> im now having to boot from live CD
[22:53] <abc_harold> PinkSwing: thats a shame
[22:53] <abc_harold> Mysticalburrito: no grub?
[22:54] <Mysticalburrito> no grub
[22:54] <dmarr> can ubuntu write to hfsplus partitions? and what kind of speeds can i expect compared to reformatting as ext2
[22:54] <Mysticalburrito> I dont have any grub screen what so ever
[22:54] <phuh> Ubuntu rocks or sucks
[22:54] <Mysticalburrito> and im also on a laptop that is missing it's built in display
[22:54] <abc_harold> Mysticalburrito: it may have fudged your boot loader
[22:55] <wgwinn> it's a uefi bios; so far as i can tell usb emulation is not a selectable option. the machine runs fine in centos 6.5 and runs fine in the memtest/check drive for errors menu options.
[22:55] <Mysticalburrito> is there a way I can fix it?
[22:55] <Mysticalburrito> This is the second time this week ubuntu's bootloader has been messed up from updates/upgrades
[22:56] <Mysticalburrito> last time I had to reinstall my OS completely because the hard drive MBR was messed up
[22:56] <abc_harold> Mysticalburrito: try a sudo grub-install /dev/sdX
[22:56] <abc_harold> Mysticalburrito: but sudo update-grub first
[22:57] <Mysticalburrito> Okay I'll try that
[22:58] <PinkSwing> abc_harold: I just found the easy solution. HTML5 video for youtube and Adobe flash for BBC iplayer
[22:58] <PinkSwing> That is hacked Adobe HTML5
[22:58] <PinkSwing> I mean hacked Adobe flash
[22:58] <Mysticalburrito> I got /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). with sudo update-grub
[22:59] <zykotick9> Mysticalburrito: you aren't chrooted proprly... sorry i don't have a link...  good luck
[22:59] <Mysticalburrito> and for sudo grub-install /dev/sdX I got /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).
[22:59] <ubulin64> I know this will be a daft question, but how do you mine for bitcoins, and is it worth the time...thnx
[23:00] <k1l_> ubulin64: its not worth it
[23:00] <abc_harold> PinkSwing: glad it works! thank adobe for their bugs...
[23:00] <hitsujiTMO> Mysticalburrito: exit from that chroot. can you pastebin the output of: mount
[23:00] <Mysticalburrito> not really, my internet is quite unstable lately
[23:00] <Mysticalburrito> so im lucky I can get on the net
[23:01] <PinkSwing> abc_harold: I wonder if I can hack pepflash in the same way
[23:01] <abc_harold> hitsujiTMO: i don't think he's in a chroot
[23:01] <hitsujiTMO> Mysticalburrito: what hove you mounted from your actual system?
[23:01] <k1l_> pi just a test
[23:01] <dilligafoo> 3.141592653589793
[23:01] <ubulin64> right, thnx, I just wondered what all the fuss was about.
[23:02] <abc_harold> PinkSwing: possibly, think it's built differently tho
[23:02] <Mysticalburrito> bot my 99mb fat32 partition (I assume that is the bootloader) and my ext4 partition
[23:02] <Programmer_> installing pwnpad on my N7
[23:02] <PinkSwing> abc_harold: I just tried. That string NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW doesn't occur in pepflash
[23:02] <Mysticalburrito> those are the only two partitions besides swap
[23:03] <hitsujiTMO> Mysticalburrito: assuming / is mounted as /mnt, is the fat32 partition mounted as /mnt/boot/efi ?
[23:03] <hitsujiTMO> Mysticalburrito: actually sorry, wait
[23:04] <Mysticalburrito> the mount partition (Fat32) is mounted as dev/sda
[23:04] <abc_harold> it could be OEM diagnostics partition if not uefi
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> Mysticalburrito: sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[23:04] <Mysticalburrito> okay
[23:04] <YellowGTO> Hey guys im trying to auto mount a disk. But I just can't seem to get it to work
[23:05] <Mysticalburrito> it's installing now
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO> Mysticalburrito: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:05] <chemist^> !details | YellowGTO
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO> mydogsnameisrudy: sudo efibootmgr | pastebinit
[23:05] <YellowGTO> Im posting it up on pastebin not ubottu
[23:05] <usr13> YellowGTO: fstab entry?
[23:05] <expert> I have a dir called 'backup'. How do I check on linux which hdd this dir belongs in?
[23:05] <Mysticalburrito> pastebinit has no installation candidate
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> Mysticalburrito: ok. then whats the output of: sudo efobootmgr
[23:06] <usr13> expert: mount
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> Mysticalburrito: or even: sudo efibootmgr
[23:06] <tripleBootin> hello all
[23:06] <expert> usr13 mount doesn't show that dir /backup
[23:07] <usr13> expert: Is that the full path?  (/backup)
[23:07] <expert> usr13 yes
[23:07] <Mysticalburrito> http://pastebin.com/nm3L9xRm
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> expert: df /path/to/folder
[23:08] <expert> hitsujiTMO thank you :)
[23:08] <YellowGTO> fdisk -l pastebin.com/RqgZN4uQ fstab pastebin.com/yi7eR2cd
[23:08] <usr13> expert: df /backup
[23:08] <YellowGTO> Its Lubuntu 13.10
[23:08] <YellowGTO> Hmm it seems the entry is missing now O_O
[23:08] <Mysticalburrito> Yellow, were you reffering to me?
[23:08] <hitsujiTMO> Mysticalburrito: can you pastebin the output of mount. need to know how the hdd is mounted
[23:09] <Mysticalburrito> what command do I use for that?
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> Mysticalburrito: mount
[23:10] <Mysticalburrito> http://pastebin.com/c960C1g7
[23:11] <Cb321> Hello everyone. I was wondering if someone would be able to assist me with a loading issue I'm having. When I am in my browser streaming a Youtube video, or a song from another site, it will skip/glitch from time to time. I have tried both Firefox and Chrome. I am somewhat new to Ubuntu, but I know my way around to a degree.
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> Mysticalburrito: sudo umount /dev/sda[12]
[23:11] <Mysticalburrito> Im trying the boot repair fix
[23:11] <Cb321> I am currently running Ubuntu 13.10 on my HP Probook 4430s with an i7 Quad core Processor with 8GB ram and Intel HD 3000 Integrated graphics card.
[23:11] <Mysticalburrito> this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair#Getting_Boot-Repair
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> Mysticalburrito: ok. if you want to try the tool go ahead. if theres still problems ping me and i'll continue to talk you thru a chroot
[23:13] <abc_harold> Cb321: whats your current graphics driver
[23:13] <expert> just a noob question, why does a lot of programs have both - and -- arguments. For example 'df -a' and 'df --all' ?
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> Mysticalburrito: that tools usually pretty decent so it hopefully will do the trick
[23:14] <zykotick9> expert: - "typically" means each letter is a switch, while -- means a word
[23:14] <hitsujiTMO> expert: - is for single character flags, -- is for word flags
[23:15] <Mysticalburrito> It actually installed this time so I ran it
[23:15] <Mysticalburrito> I'll try rebooting now
[23:15] <Mysticalburrito> it if doesnt work then I'll be back later
[23:15] <hitsujiTMO> expert: the difference is to allow you to quickly chain single char flags, without them being interpretted as a work: such as with: ls -latr
[23:15] <dmarr> usually you use the character when you manually type the command and the word when composing a reusable script so its more readable
[23:15] <expert> I see
[23:16] <Cb321> abc_harold: I entered the command, but wasn't sure which portion you needed so I pasted it for you. Here is the link: http://pastie.org/8716599
[23:16] <abc_harold> k give me a mo
[23:19] <abc_harold> Cb321: try opening Additional Drivers and try a diff one
[23:21] <Cb321> abc_harold: I went there prior to coming here. When it opens up it scans then comes up and says there are no additional drivers available. I'm not sure if it matters, but underneath that it also says that no proprietary drivers are in use either.
[23:22] <abc_harold> Cb321: must be only one driver, have you tried html5 players?
[23:23] <abc_harold> Cb321: at http://www.youtube.com/html5
[23:28] <apofis> guys ? I just upgraded my nvidia driver on ubuntu 12.04 and when I reboot my machine it starts in a failmode (Xorg)
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> apofis: what gpu do you hsve and what driver did you upgrade?
[23:28] <apofis> quick and dirty solution which works is the restart of lightdm
[23:28] <apofis> nvidia
[23:29] <apofis> nvidia-331-updates
[23:29] <Bray90820> So when i enter "lsb_release -v" i get No LSB modules are available
[23:29] <apofis> I made an upgrade from 319 to 331
[23:29] <hitsujiTMO> apofis: what gpu do you have?
[23:29] <apofis> GeForce GTX 770
[23:30] <zykotick9> Bray90820: try "lsb_release -a" for example
[23:30] <hitsujiTMO> apofis: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:30] <Bray90820> I get all the other information but the kernal version still says No LSB modules are available
[23:30] <Bray90820> zykotick9: I get all the other information but the kernal version still says No LSB modules are available
[23:30] <zykotick9> Bray90820: i believe that's "normal"
[23:31] <Bray90820> ok
[23:31] <Bray90820> hum
[23:31] <apofis> hitsujiTMO: http://askubuntu.com/questions/412366/problem-with-latest-nvidia-driver-provided-by-canonical
[23:31] <apofis> this is my question ;)
[23:31] <apofis> since then it;s still broken
[23:31] <Bray90820> Oh nevermind i am totally wrong with what i am doing
[23:31] <hitsujiTMO> apofis: yes its still an issue and catching most people out
[23:31] <Bray90820> zykotick9: I ment to do uname -r
[23:32] <apofis> hitsujiTMO: I would say something with lightdm is not right
[23:32] <zykotick9> Bray90820: glad you figured it out :)
[23:32] <Bray90820> :P
[23:32] <apofis> hitsujiTMO: lightdm or ubuntu-greetings
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> apofis: its not loading the nvidia driver correctly.
[23:32] <apofis> driver is loaded
[23:33] <apofis> dont think this is an issue with driver itself
[23:33] <hitsujiTMO> apofis: can you pastebin the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:33] <hitsujiTMO> apofis: if you're getting failsafe mode then it is an issue with the driver
[23:34] <apofis> hitsujiTMO:  do u think that manuall installation of the latest driver will help ?
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> apofis: not necessarily. I've the 331 doesn't work at all for some people
[23:36] <apofis> hitsujiTMO: my Xorg.0.log looks almost the same like in the question on askubuntu
[23:37] <apofis> hitsujiTMO: [    11.649] (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. blah blah and
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> apofis: does it have this line: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the
[23:37] <apofis> hitsujiTMO: [    11.649] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> apofis: can you pastebin the output of: lsmod | grep nv
[23:38] <apofis> hitsujiTMO: module is loaded
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> apofis: whats the name of the module?
[23:38] <Dbugger> Hey guys. I just did "sudo apt-get install phpmyadmiN", but when I do http://localhost/phpmyadmin I still get my website. What did I do wrong?
[23:38] <Cb321> abc_harold: I did as you suggested in switching to the HTML5 player, but to no avail. I still get the same problem. However, I noticed that when I run a speedtest from speedtest.net my speed is less than half of what I was getting when I was on Windows.
[23:38] <YamakasY_> damn why does service --status-all show questionmarks on running services
[23:39] <apofis> hitsujiTMO: nvidia (this is an alias for nvidia_331_updates)
[23:39] <hitsujiTMO> apofis: can you pastebin the output of: dmesg
[23:40] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know where can I find the log files of rdiff-backup?
[23:40] <abc_harold> Cb321: It sounds like a driver or resource issue. Speedtest is flash based too
[23:41] <abc_harold> Cb321: Are you pushing your hw or running too much?
[23:42] <abc_harold> Cb321: If you're updating too, that hogs resources
[23:43] <Cb321> Not at all. I only have Chrome running with about 8 tabs, 3 of which I'm using. I don't have any updates running atm. I have 30 MB/s internet and speedtest showed me at about 14. I'm at a loss.
[23:43] <apofis> hitsujiTMO: https://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=4pTaAEYc
[23:43] <apofis> hitsujiTMO: now u know more about me than my wife :P
[23:44] <apofis> hitsujiTMO: nvidia seems to be loaded correctly : [   11.926905] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  331.20  Wed Oct 30 17:43:35 PDT 2013
[23:44] <abc_harold> Cb321: What's your processor? Sorry if you're repeating yourself, i'm really tired
[23:45] <Cb321> abc_harold: That isn't a problem I appreciate the help. My processor is a Sandy Bridge quad core i7
[23:46] <Cb321> abc_harold: I also have 8GB of ram if that was going to be another question of yours.
[23:46] <wheatthin> Cb321, You're using chrome tho huh?
[23:46] <hitsujiTMO> apofis: yup. so it's most likely an error with the xorg side of things
[23:46] <wheatthin> chromes multi-threads are a system hog..
[23:47] <wheatthin> even running when chrome isn't opened...
[23:47] <stanreg> [noob Q] I just installed lrzsz from the software center.. yet, I can't find it in the menus anywhere.. how may I execute it?
[23:48] <wheatthin> Cb321, my question would be, what kind of hard drive are you using?
[23:48] <Cb321> abc_harold: Yeah I started out using Firefox, but the freezing was just getting on my nerves. I figured I'd try Chrome, as that's what I ran on my Windows setup. It seems more fluid in terms of performance, but the skipping is still there. I think it may have to do with the connection as stated before, because it is listed at half of what I was averaging before.
[23:49] <wheatthin> You don't have any torrents or anything running do you?
[23:49] <wheatthin> on any other computers on the network?
[23:49] <abc_harold> Cb321: have a look at http://bit.ly/1dAtEz8 similar problem, similar hw, but on opensuse tho
[23:49] <apofis> hitsujiTMO: funny is that after downgrade everything back to normla
[23:49] <Cb321> wheatthin: I have a 500gb 5400 rpm Toshiba drive paired with a 120 gb SSD. However, the SSD is my Windows HD, and I partitioned the Toshiba drive for Ubuntu.
[23:49] <wheatthin> ahh, might just be a slow drive then
[23:50] <hitsujiTMO> apofis: yeah, its prob the 331 driver looking for the wrong kernel module. downgrading to 319 should be fine
[23:50] <apofis> hitsujiTMO: unfortunatelly for me it's not an option - 36h bug (after 36h module reports an error that fan on GPU does not work)
[23:50] <abc_harold> Cb321: they removed a boot option
[23:50] <hitsujiTMO> apofis: huh? you can't go back to 319?
[23:51] <apofis> hitsujiTMO: I can but my workstation will freeze (Xorg actually) after every 36h :D
[23:51] <hitsujiTMO> apofis: i see. you can try an alternative driver from a ppa then
[23:51] <wheatthin> apofis, are your acpi/thermal features set to max?
[23:52] <abc_harold> Cb321: some people have said adding OverrideGPUValidation=true into /etc/adobe/mms.cfg if you have it
[23:52] <apofis> wheatthin: no, dont think so - everything is set up to auto
[23:53] <wheatthin> apofis, I'd try upping the thermal settings to aggressive and see if that helps
[23:54] <Cb321> wheatthin: I don't believe it is a slow drive, as everything worked well in Windows, but then again I could be, and may be wrong.
[23:54] <apofis> wheatthin: my GPU got 34 degree almost all the time - and in nvidia 331 36h bug does not exist anylonger
[23:54] <Cb321> abc_harold: I'll try that now and see what happens.
[23:54] <wheatthin> that's just odd.. ahh yeah
[23:54] <apofis> wheatthin: this is the reason why I made the upgrade and made some dirty hax - added lightdm restart at the end of start sequence
[23:55] <abc_harold> Cb321: also please could you pastebin output of hwinfo --framebuffer if that doesn't work
[23:55] <pietro10> Hi. On KDE, all GTK+ apps except firefox-trunk for some reason are not rendering fonts properly, even though gtk[23]-engines-oxygen is set. How do I fix this? Thanks.
[23:56] <Cb321> abc_harold: Hmm I noticed something odd. I don't have an adobe folder in the /etc directory. Is that normal, or could that be an issue?
[23:57] <newb> HitsujiTMO: Well hello there. I am finally operational using windows 7. Yaaaaaay!
[23:57] <hitsujiTMO> \1
[23:57] <newb> HitsujiTMO: Again, I want to thank you for your help yesterday and earlier today.
[23:57] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | newb
[23:57] <abc_harold> Cb321: probably not, just looking through similar issues on ubuntu variants
[23:58] <hitsujiTMO> newb: hehe, no problem. at least you're up and running now
[23:58] <newb> HitsujiTMO: You have been very helpful, receptive, attentive, giving, and encouraging. I'm not sure why! But I am grateful.
[23:58] <hitsujiTMO> newb: lol ty
[23:59] <newb> hitsujiTMO: I am interested to find someone just like you to talk to about mining.
[23:59] <Cb321> abc_harold: Another issue I'm having is when I try to input the code you suggested I try. When I do, it tells me to do an apt-get install, to which I do, but then I get this error: E: Package 'hwinfo' has no installation candidate
[23:59] <newb> hitsujiTMO: How would I find a litecoin mining channel? Can you send me a link?
[23:59] <hitsujiTMO> !alis | newb easiest way to search