[00:00] <brainwash> MrTulias: usually no, it should exist by default I think
[00:03] <MrTulias> Ok, thanks again. I will look better :p
[00:10] <Unit193> ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/: No such file or directory  guess not.
[00:12] <brainwash> I don't remember creating it manually
[00:12] <brainwash> some package might have created it at some point
[00:21] <MrTulias> Would I could use a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf that I have of ubuntu?
[00:32] <lecatmure_> today i moved to xubuntu, i'm tired of windows
[00:32] <lecatmure_> linux forever!!!!
[00:32] <knome> lecatmure_, enjoy
[00:32] <MrTulias> \o/
[00:47] <MrTulias> Bye, thanks a lot
[02:54] <rodd> I have a live usb xubuntu but would like to make it persistent, is that possible?
[02:56] <ethermonk> yes
[02:57] <Unit193> !persistent
[02:58] <ethermonk> do you have access to a a bootable system or another live disk?
[02:59] <rodd> thanks, no ethermonk
[02:59] <rodd> my hdd fried
[02:59] <ethermonk> or you can install unetbootin onto the live disk and create a new live disk with persistence
[02:59] <rodd> if i remember when i created this usb, i checked persistent on unetbootin
[02:59] <rodd> but i suppose im missing something in the boot screen
[02:59] <ethermonk> what boot options do you have?
[02:59] <rodd> as it's not persisting
[03:00] <rodd> "try live.." "install" and so on
[03:01] <rodd> let me try something
[03:01] <ethermonk> do you have another blank disk or USB we can use?
[03:05] <ethermonk> what i suggest is to boot a live disk and create a new usb with persistence. partition it so that you have a 2GB FAT16, then the rest to ext2. label the ext2 partition casper-rw, then delete the casper-rw file. fat16 is faster than fat32. all your persistent storage will be on the ext2 partition that m,ust be labeled casper-rw
[03:09] <ethermonk> but if you have 2 USBs, better off just installing xubuntu onto the largest USB
[03:13] <ethermonk> is there documentation on how to install casper onto a live disk from within the running live disk?
[04:43] <aksharpatel> Hi.. I'm using Xubuntu 14.04 right now. Really love it. Is there a way to add ubuntu one indicator to the panel?
[08:59] <Maaz> what is a good program opener for xubuntu that works on all programs?
[09:00] <ethermonk> what are you trying to open (file type)
[09:01] <Maaz> hacking.exe
[09:01] <Maaz> i dunno it's for windows or xubuntu
[09:01] <Maaz> if it is
[09:02] <ethermonk> wine
[09:02] <Maaz> vine
[09:02] <ethermonk> or run windows in virtual machine
[09:02] <Maaz> oke
[09:03] <ethermonk> you can install wine from the software center
[09:03] <Maaz> but my virtual machine gives an error while starting the window in the virtual machine
[09:03] <ethermonk> depending on what VM app you'r running theres a room for that
[09:04] <Maaz> wine windows program loader?
[09:04] <ethermonk> yes
[09:04] <Maaz> oke thanks
[09:06] <Maaz> it looks like a drawing program
[09:18] <Maaz> how can i check what kind of xubuntu i have?
[09:18] <Maaz> where is the information of the computer?
[09:35] <MaazZ> how do i open or start iso files?
[09:36] <baizon> MaazZ: use a iso program or simply the archive manager
[09:36] <MaazZ> oke
[09:36] <baizon> MaazZ: with the archive manager can extract it, win an iso mounter you can mount it on a virtual drive
[09:36] <baizon> the second solution would be a better one imho
[09:41] <Maaz> how can i see my computer information?
[09:41] <Maaz> or what kind of xubuntu i have/
[09:41] <Maaz> ?
[09:43] <bazhang> !version
[09:43] <bazhang> sudo lshw
[09:47] <Maaz> oke thanks
[09:48] <bazhang> np
[09:58] <Maaz> !update
[10:09] <Maaz> test
[10:11] <ethermonk> PASS
[10:11] <Maaz> YES!
[10:17] <gemmaxubuntu> hello everybody
[10:17] <Maaz> hello
[10:17] <Maaz> are u a hacker?
[10:17] <bazhang> !ot | Maaz
[10:18] <gemmaxubuntu> :)
[10:18] <Maaz> !kick Maaz
[10:18] <bazhang> Maaz, stop that
[10:22] <gemmaxubuntu> i have a small problem with harddisk partitions, im new to command line, so its difficult for me to solve it. Gparted cant operate on that disk (says no partition table) but lsblk shows my partitions correctly. I guess the problem is that the firts partition of the disk shows as hidden. I read fdisk manual but it recommends me to use cfdisk. May i only change de hidden atribute to my sdb1 partition with cfdisk or fdisk? Maybe t
[10:28] <gemmaxubuntu> i just tried sudo fdisk /dev/sdb and i get a "Fatal Error: primary partition ends after the end of the disk"
[10:28] <bazhang> why can you not boot with the gparted live cd again?
[10:29] <gemmaxubuntu> is gparted live different thank not live? i dont understand, i dont think in live mode will be any diffence, but if you suggest so....
[10:30] <bazhang> yes, you need live
[10:30] <gemmaxubuntu> ok, im booting live, brb
[10:30] <bazhang> you cannot do it otherwise
[10:31] <gemmaxubuntu> but im parting a second hard drive, not primary wich im booting from
[10:31] <bazhang> so what was the exact error message from gparted, or "disks"
[10:33] <gemmaxubuntu> i have sda well parted, xubuntu installed and working, im trying to solve partition problem on a secondary hard drive, The exact error of gparted is that the disk has no partition table, and shows the whole disk as not partitioned, on clicking new on the "empty" space, the exact error is that i cant create a partition outside of the disk
[10:33] <gemmaxubuntu> nevertheless lsblk shows both partition correctly (i have only two)
[10:34] <gemmaxubuntu> sdb      8:16   0 465,8G  0 disk
[10:34] <gemmaxubuntu> ├─sdb1   8:17   0     8G  0 part
[10:34] <gemmaxubuntu> └─sdb2   8:18   0 457,8G  0 part
[10:34] <gemmaxubuntu> sudo fdisk -l also shows partitions correctly and start and end points correctly to
[10:35] <gemmaxubuntu> Dispositivo Inicio    Comienzo      Fin      Bloques  Id  Sistema
[10:35] <gemmaxubuntu> /dev/sdb1              63    16787924     8393931   27  WinRE NTFS oculto
[10:35] <gemmaxubuntu> /dev/sdb2   *    16787925   976784129   479998102+   7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[10:35] <gemmaxubuntu> sorry is in spanish
[10:35] <bazhang> which is a windows system
[10:36] <gemmaxubuntu> the only thing i see as not correct is that at the end of my first (yes windows system) shows as HIDDEN (oculto) may be there the problem
[10:36] <bazhang> where's the xubuntu
[10:36] <gemmaxubuntu> in another disk
[10:36] <gemmaxubuntu> sda
[10:36] <bazhang> please share the output
[10:37] <gemmaxubuntu> Dispositivo Inicio    Comienzo      Fin      Bloques  Id  Sistema
[10:37] <gemmaxubuntu> /dev/sda1            2046    83890175    41944065    5  Extendida
[10:37] <gemmaxubuntu> /dev/sda2        83891430    88084394     2096482+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[10:37] <gemmaxubuntu> /dev/sda3   *    88084395   192956714    52436160    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[10:37] <gemmaxubuntu> /dev/sda4       192956715   976768064   391905675    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[10:37] <gemmaxubuntu> /dev/sda5            2048    83890175    41944064   83  Linux
[10:37] <knome> !pastebin | gemmaxubuntu
[10:37] <gemmaxubuntu> ups, okey
[10:37] <bazhang> that bell cannot be unrung
[10:38] <bazhang> so you want to resize the windows part
[10:38] <gemmaxubuntu> i would like to solve the problem to learn if posible, if not posible i would like just to part the full disk with a primary ext4 partition to hold my data
[10:39] <bazhang> what problem
[10:39] <bazhang> you wish to resize the windows? yes?
[10:40] <gemmaxubuntu> i wish i can see first my firts 8gb partition and not have the errors in gparted or fdisk that the first partition ends outside of the disk wich is not tru
[10:40] <bazhang> if it's a dual boot, the shared data part would not want to be ext4
[10:40] <gemmaxubuntu> no im not dual booting, this is a disk from other pc, i dont use windows long ago
[10:41] <bekks> gemmaxubuntu: Pastebin: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda"
[10:41] <bazhang> ok, thats the first mention you have made of that
[10:41] <bekks> gemmaxubuntu: Pastebin the entire output.
[10:41] <gemmaxubuntu> okeys coming
[10:41] <bazhang> first partition ends outside of the disk
[10:42] <gemmaxubuntu> y guess you mean sdb where i have the problem, sda is working correctly
[10:42] <bekks> gemmaxubuntu: Yes.
[10:43] <gemmaxubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6902498/
[10:45] <Maaz> my virtual machine does not work:S
[10:45] <bekks> Maaz: It wants more money?
[10:45] <Maaz> virtual box
[10:45] <bekks> Maaz: Then clarify "does not work" please.
[10:45] <Maaz> oke wait
[10:45] <Maaz> let me start it
[10:47] <Maaz> i start virtualbox
[10:47] <gemmaxubuntu> i belive all the problems may reside in the attribute "hidden" (oculto) of my first partition /dev/sdb1
[10:47] <gemmaxubuntu> could that be possible?
[10:47] <bekks> gemmaxubuntu: No.
[10:47] <gemmaxubuntu> okeys
[10:48] <bekks> gemmaxubuntu: Where does what say when, that the first partition is outside of the disk?
[10:48] <gemmaxubuntu> i get that "fatal error" if i try "sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb"
[10:49] <bekks> gemmaxubuntu: Then pastebin the full output of whatever you do to get the error.
[10:49] <bekks> gemmaxubuntu: We cant guess it.
[10:49] <Maaz> and i start virtualmachine and it says FATAL: no bootable medium found! System halted.
[10:49] <bekks> Maaz: Then attach a bootable medium to your VM.
[10:49] <Maaz> how do you do that?
[10:50] <bekks> BY attaching a bootable ISO to the cdrom of your virtual machine, e.g.
[10:50] <gemmaxubuntu> is only one line in spanish, would you like that pastebin line text, print screen, or a translation by my self?
[10:51] <bazhang> one line is fine here
[10:51] <Maaz> and how does that work?
[10:51] <bazhang> vbox?
[10:52] <Maaz> yeah
[10:52] <nlm> hey all, I tried installing awesome wm on my xubuntu installation and am now stuck with an interface somewhere between xfce and awesome,  anyone know how i can reset the xfce interface back to defaults? I've purged awesome from the system but no luck
[10:52] <bazhang> point vbox to the iso
[10:52] <bekks> Maaz: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch01.html#idp51733408
[10:52] <gemmaxubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6902528/
[10:52] <bekks> Read "1.8.1 Starting a new VM for the first time" please
[10:54] <gemmaxubuntu> ohhh i seee
[10:54] <bekks> gemmaxubuntu: You see what?
[10:54] <gemmaxubuntu> is the second partition (wich i can access if mounted) that ends out of the disk
[10:54] <gemmaxubuntu> is it?
[10:55] <bekks> gemmaxubuntu: cfdisk tells you that.
[10:56] <gemmaxubuntu> yes it is, i can confirm with the first pastebin, i have a total of 976773168 sectors on the disk but second partition ends at 9767-8-4129
[10:56] <gemmaxubuntu> how curios
[10:57] <gemmaxubuntu> so how i solve that?
[10:57] <gemmaxubuntu> is there a way to set the end of the partition or i have to create a new partition table and lose all the data on my disk?
[10:57] <gemmaxubuntu> (data is backed up) just learning, i dont know how could it happend
[10:58] <Maaz> vbox i can't find it
[10:58] <Maaz> bekks
[11:00] <Maaz> bekks do you have virtual box?
[11:01] <bekks> Yes.
[11:02] <bekks> Maaz: Define "vbox i can't find it".
[11:02] <Maaz> virtualbox
[11:02] <gemmaxubuntu> so is it posible to modify the END sector of a partition or the only solution is to create a new partition table?
[11:02] <Maaz> oke tell me your settings..
[11:03] <Maaz> tell me in steps what u do if u start a new machine
[11:04] <bekks> Maaz: No. Tell us whats unclear to your after reading section 1.8.1 of the vbox manual.
[11:05] <bekks> Maaz: The manual describes it in detail.
[11:05] <Maaz> oke
[11:08] <gemmaxubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6902581/
[11:08] <Maaz> i don't have a cd..
[11:08] <bekks> Maaz: You need an ISO file.
[11:08] <Maaz> i have one
[11:09] <bekks> gemmaxubuntu: Backup all data on thaht disk, and repartition it.
[11:09] <bekks> Maaz: So you dont need a cd. Attach the iso to your vm as described in that article.
[11:09] <gemmaxubuntu> thank you bekks, that what i was going to do, i was just wondering if i could modify that END sector, is that possible?
[11:11] <gemmaxubuntu> im not going to do it, just want to know (to increase my knowledge on partitions) if it would be possible, maybe with sfdisk?
[11:12] <bekks> gemmaxubuntu: resize the filesystem, then resize the partition.
[11:14] <Maaz> i started machine i opened the iso file and itś doing nothing
[11:14] <bekks> Maaz: Because thats not described in that article at all. Start reading it please.
[11:15] <starrats> Has anyone tried Xubuntu 14-04 Alpha 1?
[11:15] <bekks> starrats: I bet people already did.
[11:15] <gemmaxubuntu> thank you bekks, i will read some literature on how to do that, nevertheless i backed up and i'll build a new partition table. Thank you all.
[11:16] <starrats> ah okay bekks and good morning to you
[11:16] <Maaz> finally it works
[11:18] <gemmaxubuntu> i should use MS-DOS partition table right?
[11:19] <gemmaxubuntu> and for the partition, just to hold data, ext4 is correct? by default is selected ext2
[11:20] <bekks> gemmaxubuntu: If your disk is smaller than 2TB, you can use MSDOS label, if it is bigger than 2TB, you have to use GPT.
[11:21] <gemmaxubuntu> bekks, 500GB so MSDOS, thank you, and for the partition? ext4?
[11:21] <bekks> gemmaxubuntu: If you want ext4, use ext4.
[11:23] <gemmaxubuntu> i dont fully understand the differences of file systems, i want the best :) y trust you, what would you use? i want the faster and be able to hold files greater than 2gb (video) and also thousand of small mp3. What would you use on that case (i wont use windows)
[11:24] <bekks> ext4.
[11:24] <gemmaxubuntu> thank you very much
[11:25] <Maaz> how long does it take to install linux?
[11:25] <Maaz> cuz after booting it didn't do anything anymore
[11:26] <bekks> Maaz: For me, it takes 15 minutes usually.
[11:26] <Maaz> oke
[11:26] <Maaz> thanks
[11:26] <Maaz> then 10 minutes to go
[11:26] <bekks> 15 minutes to finish the installation. Not 15 minutes until i finally see something.
[11:26] <Maaz> no i see Linux Minst
[11:26] <bekks> 15 minutes overall. A fes seconds until I see the first installation screen.
[11:26] <Maaz> Mint
[11:27] <bekks> *few
[11:27] <Maaz> but it showed that it was gonna boot
[11:27] <bekks> I never installed mint - it may be fast, it may take ages.
[11:27] <Maaz> and then the linux mint stayed and didn't do anything
[11:27] <bekks> Then ask the mint support whats wrong at that point.
[11:46] <gemmaxubuntu> Hello again. I parted a new added disk with a primary ext4 partition, the problem is that only root has access to it, how can i set permissions on that new partition so everybody has full access?
[11:49] <Maaz> anyone using linux mint ?
[11:50] <starrats> not here, too bloaty
[11:50] <gemmaxubuntu> im in the correct path if i "gksudo thunar" then change permisions to /media/label?
[11:53] <gemmaxubuntu> nevertheless i cant change the owner that way, and all other labels has the owner "username" instead of root, how dificult is to learn linux
[11:53] <bekks> !mint | Maaz
[11:54] <gemmaxubuntu> would i have a problem accessing data in other linux system if the owner is root?
[11:54] <bekks> gemmaxubuntu: We dont know, that depends on the other linux system.
[11:55] <gemmaxubuntu> so how i change the ownership of a partition and change permisions correctly? may you send me a link so i can read about?
[11:56] <gemmaxubuntu> as far as i guessed i can change permisions on /media/label running thunar as root, i cant guess further
[11:56] <bekks> sudo chown and sudo chmod
[11:56] <gemmaxubuntu> thank you, reading
[12:04] <uflaig> hello everyone, how can I change the standard text editor?
[12:06] <gemmaxubuntu> mmm, complex permissions system, i like it:)
[12:07] <gemmaxubuntu> so "sudo chown username /media/label" would be my correct option?
[12:11] <gemmaxubuntu> ah no, "sudo chown -R username /media/label" i will try that see what happend
[12:12] <bekks> Dont do it until you know what it does.
[12:13] <bekks> -R will change ownership to you user recursively. It will not change the group, sicne you did not specify that.
[12:13] <gemmaxubuntu> oh good i was still reading
[12:13] <bekks> If you still want to do it, run: sudo chown -R youruser:yourusersgroup /media/label
[12:13] <gemmaxubuntu> thank you
[12:19] <gemmaxubuntu> bekks i really want to learn about xubuntu and linux in general, do you know any good book for begginers (no matter copyrighted, in spain we are allowed to access culture free of charge)  wich i can upload to my book reader and start learning?
[12:20] <bekks> I dont know any good books, since they are already outdated in the moment you buy them.
[12:23] <gemmaxubuntu> oh i see, i just dont have the time not the eyes (old screen) to learn on the computer, i will just get any book to start with, nevertheless im open to suggestions, if anybody can suggest me a couple of books to start learning about linux, linux commands and ubuntu (for begginers) i'll be online for a while. Thank you very much.
[12:25] <gemmaxubuntu> by the way, i changed permisions correctly, but i forgot about the folder lost+found, should i make this folder owner back to root? i guess so
[12:34] <bekks> gemmaxubuntu: That folders permissions are adjusted everytime you mount the filesystem.
[13:04] <christoffer> Anyone else have issues with printing in Xubuntu 14.04? ...when trying to print test page to network cups server it starts to print infinite empty pages
[13:04] <christoffer> works just fine with 12.04 LTS virtual machine but haven't been able to test with 14.04 Ubuntu.
[13:06] <gemmaxubuntu> bekks: thank you
[13:12] <brainwash_> !14.04 | christoffer
[13:13] <christoffer> lol sent from #xubuntu-devel to #xubuntu and now it's #ubuntu+1 ...I wonder where I'm allowed to ask.
[13:15]  * starrats can't wait for the new release of xubuntu 14.04LTS
[13:15] <brainwash_> #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel for questions regarding 14.04
[13:19] <brainwash_> and feel free to file a bug report on launchpad, simply run "ubuntu-bug cups"
[13:19] <brainwash_> christoffer: ^
[14:17] <host> hi all
[14:19] <cfhowlett> host, greetings
[14:21] <host> i'm using xubuntu 12.04.4 with xfce4.10. if i'm extending the screen to a monitor, the xfce desktop appears on the second monitor
[14:21] <host> how can i force xfce desktop to use the laptop monitor?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> host, setting display and choose the display you want shown
[15:18] <cubed_root> how difficult is it to use a new destkop environment on top of my xubuntu installation?
[15:18] <cubed_root> for example, cinnamon
[15:19] <Belial`> sudo apt-get install cinnamon
[15:20] <Belial`> log out, pick the cinnamon session at log in
[15:22] <cubed_root> holy crap, really?
[15:22] <cubed_root> wow
[15:22] <cubed_root> can't wait to try it
[15:22] <cubed_root> thanks Belial`
[15:23] <Belial`> np
[15:25] <cubed_root> Belial`: will that come with it's own apps -- like a text editor and system settings app, etc? i was reading the other day that you can have duplicates of these types of apps w/multiple desktops
[15:35] <Belial`> cubed_root, not sure. it depends on what cinnamon pulls in. i haven't installed it so i couldn't tell you.
[16:04] <xwin8xub_needhel> hi. need help with booting xubuntu dual boot win 8 on laptop
[16:06] <Emerling> xwin8xub_needhel, wat model laptop? what is you problem exactly?
[16:08] <xwin8xub_needhel> hp 655
[16:08] <xwin8xub_needhel> i shrunk my c: by 40GB to use for xubuntu, was able to install it - during install xubuntu didnt recognise any other OS so i used that "something else" setting
[16:09] <xwin8xub_needhel> once install is done it just boots into win 8
[16:11] <xwin8xub_needhel> i installed from dvd, i had burned that 800MB~ 64bit iso
[16:11] <xwin8xub_needhel> 13.10
[16:21] <Emerling> xwin8xub_needhel,   i not be sure, but i I think your laptop has restrictions UEFI.
[16:22] <xwin8xub_needhel> should i use this boot-repair utility im reading about
[16:26] <Emerling> you can see next link.. http://www.linlap.com/hp_655   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:02] <sleezio> hello, i'm new to xubuntu, i was wondering if removing zeitgeist will mess up any other functions(dependencies) in the OS?
[17:02] <superprower> Hi all
[17:03] <superprower> Does anybody know how to install nvidia drivers on xubuntu? On debian i was adding smth to repository and used "apt-get install nvidia-glx",  what should i do on xubuntu?
[17:03] <bekks> !nvidia | superprower
[17:03] <elfy> sleezio: not that I'm aware of - I removed it in the last install I did for some reason
[17:04] <sleezio> superprower, you can try: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings && sudo nvidia-xconfig , then reboot
[17:04] <sleezio> elfy, thanks
[17:06] <superprower> sleezio, so, it doesn't matter wich method i used on debia?
[17:06] <bekks> superprower: No.
[17:06] <bekks> superprower: You should follow the ubuntu way being on ubuntu.
[17:08] <superprower> bekks, sorry me, but it sounds really funny XD
[17:08] <superprower> bekks, so, you agree with the method that sleezio said?
[17:08] <bekks> Yes, thats the ubuntu way.
[17:09] <sleezio> superprower, i used that on mint a few months back, worked fine
[17:09] <superprower> bekks, sleezio, ok, finished
[17:09] <superprower> only reboot left
[17:09] <superprower> but one question
[17:09] <superprower> will it increase fps (at least for a bit) in a games?
[17:09] <bekks> Does that matter? :)
[17:10] <superprower> i dunno :)
[17:10] <bekks> So it doesnt matter.
[17:10] <superprower> ok, thx you
[17:10] <Sysi> I thought using software-properties was the ubuntu way
[17:11] <Sysi> though I haven't tried with apt since jockey when it miserably failed
[17:11] <elfy> works now
[17:11] <bekks> It's just a GUI for the terminal-less out there ;)
[17:11] <Sysi> yay progress
[17:12] <superprower> wow, (x)ubuntu boots REALY fast
[17:13] <sleezio> superprower, now select the current nvidia driver
[17:13] <sleezio> ..you'll need to reboot again afterwads
[17:13] <superprower> sleezio, why and when?
[17:13] <superprower> new update coming soon?
[17:16] <sleezio> superprower, if you have inxi installed...type this here in chat: /exec inxi -G
[17:17] <superprower> sleezio, inxi it is the client for irc? No, i'm using default XChat
[17:17] <sleezio> it'll work in xchat
[17:18] <sleezio> inxi is an system information script
[17:29] <sleezio> cool, removed zeitgeist with no probs...i was a bit gunshy, last time i tried to remove zeit(mint MATE) it trashed gnome
[17:29] <superprower> sleezio, he said that "sh: l: inxi: not found"
[17:30] <sleezio> superprower, software center, search for inxi > install
[17:30] <superprower> bekks, sleezio, also, fps has increased, i tested on Portal game in steam
[17:30] <sleezio> have you verified you're using the current nvidia driver?
[17:31] <superprower> i dunno ._.
[17:31] <sleezio> system settings > additional drivers.....
[17:31] <superprower> sleezio, can i do it from bash? bash is awesome :) it's about inxi
[17:32] <sleezio> inxi is a terminal command script, but it works via most irc chats
[17:32] <sleezio> in terminal type inxi -G and it'll tell you your video settings
[17:32] <superprower> inxi -G
[17:32] <sleezio> or you can type /exec inxi -G in chat
[17:32] <superprower> shout
[17:33] <superprower> ok, i get it
[17:33] <superprower> wait, please :)
[17:33] <Sysi> lspci -k | grep nvidia works too
[17:34] <Sysi> or grep for nouveay instead of nvidia to check if the open driver is being used
[17:34] <superprower> glx version 304.88, he said
[17:38] <superprower> sleezio, so?
[17:39] <sleezio> go to system settings > additional drivers....see if you have the most recent nvidia driver(proprietary, tested) driver selected orX-org driver selected
[17:41] <superprower> sleezio, i'am using "Nvidia binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library from nvidia-304(proprietary)"
[17:41] <superprower> smth like that, i'm using russian xubuntu
[17:41] <sleezio> you're good to go then
[17:42] <sleezio> you don't see a 319 version?
[17:43] <sleezio> *this is why inxi comes in handy in help chat
[17:43] <superprower> i see also 319, 319 proprietary-tested, 304-updates and X.Org.X server-bla-bla-bla-npuveau,
[17:44] <superprower> in addition drivers menu
[17:44] <sleezio> select 319, apply changes, reboot
[17:45] <superprower> K
[17:45] <superprower> ok
[17:45] <sleezio> buh bye
[17:45] <superprower> 319 tested or just proprietary?
[17:45] <superprower> wait
[17:45] <superprower> wait maan
[17:45] <superprower> oh. well
[17:46] <longbongolungfis> hey folks. using xubuntu 13.10 over here and the strangest problem started popping up after the last base update; in mousepad, the default plaintext editor, whenever i hit the 'q' key, in any context (whether searching a file or typing) it opens a new tab. the 'q' behaves as normal in all other applications and i'd love to remedy this issue. thanks in advance for any help.
[17:47] <longbongolungfis> it's kind of humorous, but it really detracts from mousepad
[17:48] <holstein> longbongolungfis: i might just test as a different user, to rule out my user config.. the guest user account should do.. then, i might run mousepad from the terminal and look for handy error messages.. otherwise, i just use a different text editor and havent noticed
[17:49] <longbongolungfis> terminals sounds like a great idea. just tried running mousepad with gksudo and the issue disappears. running it without gksudo and the issue remains.
[17:49] <longbongolungfis> terminal*
[17:49] <holstein> longbongolungfis: thats to run it "as root".. you shouldnt do that, i didnt suggest that
[17:50] <holstein> longbongolungfis: though, that does seem to imply that the issue is in your users config.. so, you konw where the issue is.. not with the system, the packages, or the upgrades
[17:51] <longbongolungfis> interesting. where should i be poking around? is there a specific config file that would be responsible for this kind of thing?
[17:51] <holstein> longbongolungfis: you should try a differnt user, other than sudo.. as i suggested, the guest account is an easy way.. or, look for the config for mousepad, and temporarily move it out of the way and test
[17:52] <longbongolungfis> on it.
[17:59] <longbongolungfis> found the culprit! thanks so much. "(gtk_accel_path "<Actions>/MousepadWindow/new" "q")" in mousepad's accels.scm. have no clue how it got there.
[18:00] <holstein> longbongolungfis: cheers!
[18:01] <longbongolungfis> yeah. like keeping mousepad as the default text editor for basic stuff and if i need anything heavier for text processing, i switch on over to gedit. thanks again.
[18:24] <xubuntu491> f
[18:24] <a1fa> whats the minimum ram requirement for xubuntu?
[18:25] <Unit193> How much do you have?
[18:25] <a1fa> 4 x 256Mb = 1Gb
[18:25] <Unit193> That'd do.
[18:25] <Unit193> Couldn't remember if it was 512 or 1G.
[18:26] <Sysi> 512 should work, better to have full gigabyte
[18:26] <a1fa> anybody know of a good theme
[18:26] <a1fa> to make newbs transition from xp to xubuntu?
[18:26] <a1fa> (this is for my mother in law)
[18:27] <Sysi> as long as you have browser and libreoffice launchers on desktop, theme shouldn't matter
[18:27] <Unit193> RedmondXP? :P
[18:27] <Sysi> don't try to make it xp, it's just not the same
[18:28] <a1fa> i know
[18:28] <Unit193> (Kidding.)  Numix isn't bad.
[18:28] <a1fa> so get her libreoffice
[18:28] <a1fa> anything else?
[18:28] <a1fa> i think i got her moved over to chrome
[18:28] <a1fa> long time ago
[18:29] <a1fa> how about pictures, and that kind of stuff?
[18:29] <newxubuntu> hello, im making a clean install of xubuntu, i created for primary partitions, boot, /, swap, /home. im not sure what filesystem should i use in boot for / and /home i will use ext4, what should i use for the /boot partition?
[18:30] <a1fa> ext4
[18:30] <a1fa> why not use guided partitioning?
[18:30] <a1fa> or (entire drive)
[18:30] <Sysi> you don't really need separate /boot partition
[18:30] <a1fa> newxubuntu: you can also install everything into single partition
[18:30] <newxubuntu> thank you, so all partitioning is ext4 right
[18:30] <elfy> newxubuntu: do you have a need for a /boor partition?
[18:30] <newxubuntu> i like this way better
[18:30] <elfy> Sysi: snap :p
[18:30] <newxubuntu> i want to learn very much about xubuntu
[18:31] <a1fa> there is no benefit in running separate partition for boot
[18:31] <newxubuntu> so i will be messing up with the partitions
[18:31] <Random833> I always use a /boot partition because I've been burned before, on a computer that was supposedly too new to have needed it
[18:31] <a1fa> in old days, you had to have separate boot parition
[18:31] <newxubuntu> trying to reinstall grub and all those things
[18:31] <newxubuntu> is for learning purposes
[18:31] <a1fa> ever since 1999, there was no need for separate boot
[18:31] <mnemoc> hi, I upgraded to 14.04 and the mouse pointer in my secondary display (VGA) is deform and followed by a black box... any hint of who can be responsible?
[18:32] <Sysi> if you use encryption you might need separate partition
[18:32] <Sysi> mnemoc: ask #ubuntu+1
[18:32] <Random832> IIRC most people who use encryption only use it on /home
[18:32] <a1fa> ^ that
[18:32] <a1fa> full disk encryption is also located within the boot sector
[18:32] <newxubuntu> thank you though, i will like to learn as much as i can in next months and mess my system very much, i though having different partitions will make me reinstall xubuntu less times
[18:33] <Sysi> not really, separate /home is nice to have though
[18:33] <elfy> mnemoc: pretty sure I saw that bug a while back - have a look through reported bugs at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/defects
[18:33] <mnemoc> Sysi: elfy: thanks
[18:34] <newxubuntu> thanks everybody
[18:36] <a1fa> whats a good/general image viewer ala windows image viewer?
[18:36] <a1fa> but not shotwell
[18:36] <Sysi> the default one works, ristretto
[18:37] <newxubuntu> one last question, may i encrypt my /home folder post install? or i have to mark the check of encrypting during installation?
[18:38] <a1fa> yes
[18:40] <newxubuntu> ok, installing, thank you :) im so happy to became a linux user :)
[18:40] <a1fa> congratulations
[18:52] <a1fa> chromium or native chrome?
[19:14] <CraHan> Hi, do you need to install anything else besides gtk2-engines-xfce and gtk3-engines-xfce to get those themes working for gtk3 apps? With those packages alone gtk3 apps look weird.
[19:14] <Unit193> Selecting what theme?
[19:15] <CraHan> Any of the Xfce-* themes
[19:15] <Unit193> Thought those were mostly GTK2 only.
[19:15] <CraHan> I see there's a gtk-2.0 and gtk-3.0 folder for each of those themes in /usr/share/themes/Xfce-*/
[19:15] <CraHan> but gtk3 apps still look off
[19:17] <CraHan> The colors seem to change, but widgets like buttons are unthemed
[19:18] <Unit193> IIRC GTK3 didn't handle change as well.
[19:18] <Unit193> Could be wrong.
[19:18] <CraHan> Was just wondering as clearlooks-phenix for example seems to work for both gtk2 and gtk3 apps.
[19:20] <CraHan> Kind of made me wonder why there's a gtk3-engines-xfce package.
[19:25] <lsc> hey guys, it seems my ati graphics card died. Now I want to run xubuntu from my onboard intel graphics card, works fine. but (ofc) xfce it self isn't displayed, I'm only able to use tty1-6. How can I (re)set my graphics driver, so that xfce looks for the graphics card and set up the driver it self.
[19:26] <xubuntu239> hi!, I tried to install xubuntu on my old pc. The installation stopped at this sentence: Unable to find a medium containing a live file system. Does anyone know anything about this?
[19:29] <CraHan> Unit193: found it, https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8707
[19:30] <CraHan> Looks like gtk version upgrade caused issues some time ago
[19:33] <xubuntu940> Hi new to linux and xubuntu what do recommend i d first after installation to get best out my machine
[19:33] <bekks> xubuntu940: Start the application you want to use?
[19:34] <xubuntu940> looking to use it to learn bash scripting
[19:38] <Somelauw_> Can I use the software centre to download xfce or do i need to download xubuntu? The reason I'm asking is that I heard from other people that when they tried to upgrade to kde their desktop broke.
[19:39] <Somelauw_> Since unity already stopped working, I don't think I got much too lose anyway, but I'm just asking to be sure.
[19:44] <elfy> Somelauw_: you can do it with software centre - install xubuntu-desktop
[19:46] <Somelauw_> also some websites say that xubuntu is actually more bloated than ubuntu with gnome. Is that still the case?
[19:47] <elfy> some websites say windows is the best thing since sliced bread
[19:49] <elfy> though to be honest given a choice between installing the desktop in ubuntu and clean install I'd always go for the clean install
[19:50] <lsc> someone here can help me with xserver configuration? ;)
[19:52] <elfy> lsc: I don't know what at drivers you have installed, but you should be able to login on a tty and remove them - at a pinch, dealing with the xorg conf file might work
[19:53] <lsc> elfy: well I think i just have to chmod / delte something in my homefolder since it's possible to log in as guest into xfce (but I've to kill xserver process before, kinda strange) - I had installed xubuntu's default fglrx drivers
[19:53] <lsc> elfy: sudo apt-get remove fglrx* won't remove anything
[19:54] <elfy> try using tab sudo apt-get remove fglrx<tab> to autocomplete - I've never used ati so don't really know what gets installed
[19:55] <elfy> do you get nothing at all on tty7?
[19:56] <lsc> okay tty7 is black on startup, when i go into tty1-6 and kill the running xserver process a new one starts up with the login screen on tty7 - when login into my main account things are broken again, when i sign in as guest everything is displayed correct so i guess i have to do some workaround in my home folder?
[19:59] <lsc> hm I deleted .Xauthority from my home folder, after restart xserver there is a new one but still broken :/
[19:59] <lsc> i also tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg btw
[20:03] <lsc> also the desktop is starting - I've for example an automatic IRC connection in my DE, I can see connecting to the channel, just the display is black.
[20:04] <elfy> really not sure - hang about and wait for someone else
[20:04] <lsc> okay, thanks for your help anyway ;)
[20:05] <elfy> sorry I couldn't help much :)
[20:06] <lsc> elfy: well it's kinda emberassing to ask you this but maybe you could help me try to google how to reset the graphics driver since i don't have any second computer/notebok/.. lol whatever short reboot
[20:10] <elfy> lsc: try   sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx*
[20:10] <elfy>   sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[20:10] <elfy>   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:11] <lsc> tyvm for your effort elfy, I'll try
[20:12] <lsc> hmm I don't have any xorg-driver*, well I'll try the rest
[20:14] <elfy> I really don't much like googling and pasting commands here - especially with ATI ;)
[20:15] <lsc> hehe, as I said ATI is broken, removed it from pc and run now from intel onboard ;) but I understand that
[20:16] <elfy> do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[20:16] <lsc> #hmmmm thinking about a fresh reinstall, already backuped my homefolder. not sure, is
[20:17] <lsc> hmm yes/no .. I've xorg.conf.orginal-0 and -1 (2 monitor setup) .. but they are empty with a comment that says "no xorg.conf existed as this backup was created"
[20:18] <lsc> oooh setting a # before an message won't stop sending it to irc heh.. too much terminal for me today
[20:18] <elfy> nope - no # for you :)
[20:18] <elfy> ok - so you've only got xorg.conf backups then
[20:19] <lsc> well that are *empty* backups, think this wont help much. there have to be a way to get a new xorg.conf I guess
[20:21] <elfy> sudo Xorg -configure I think
[20:24] <lsc> hmm it just throws an exception that the server is already running and I cant stop the server since its restarting when I kill the proc
[20:25] <elfy> lsc: I've no idea I'm afraid - I've never actually had any problem with nvidia - remove card and it just worked ... sorry
[20:27] <lsc> hehe :) well tbh I'm fairly new to linux desktop environments, maybe I'm a douchebag and fucked things up. who knows.. anyway I appreciate your help
[21:27] <Vidar__> hey there
[21:27] <Vidar__> so there's this 12 year old kid on #hacking that got banned from here, what did he do haha
[21:27] <knome> Vidar__, that's not your business.
[21:27] <Vidar__> mmkay
[21:48] <Vidar__> is it really that big of a deal? seems to me like he was just being a little bitch
[21:49] <knome> Vidar__, this is not the right channel to discuss that. and you are not the right person to discuss that.
[21:49] <bazhang> !ot | Vidar__
[21:56] <IdleOne> Vidar__: the *buntu ops have a policy of not discussing bans with 3rd parties.