| valorie | ahoneybun: awesome work getting the slides into the docs wiki | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| ahoneybun | valorie: thanks | 00:00 |
| ahoneybun | I also updated apachelogger's package on my system with them | 00:00 |
| ahoneybun | in the en folder anyway | 00:00 |
| valorie | I saw that, and am envious of your understanding of the systems | 00:00 |
| ahoneybun | understanding lol | 00:01 |
| ahoneybun | I also copied his work into my own branch on lp | 00:01 |
| valorie | I installed gitmagic to read it (it's a book about using git) but I can't even get the book to open | 00:01 |
| valorie | pfff | 00:01 |
| ahoneybun | and I did this https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/trusty/+merge/205511 | 00:02 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: the next thing to do with the slides are getting the ones in the correct lang | 00:14 |
| ahoneybun | brb | 00:15 |
| valorie | oh, for sure | 00:15 |
| valorie | that isn't included in the slide package? | 00:15 |
| ahoneybun | back | 00:16 |
| ahoneybun | all in english | 00:16 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: was the call for a merge a good thing to do? | 00:36 |
| valorie | call for a merge? | 00:36 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 00:36 |
| ahoneybun | https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/trusty/+merge/205511 | 00:36 |
| valorie | ah, I see | 00:37 |
| valorie | the idea is good; we'll see if the technical aspects are good too | 00:37 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 00:41 |
| soee | hmm do you also have Firefox 25 available only not 27 ? | 00:52 |
| soee | ah it is in proposed | 00:56 |
| soee | but beta :) 27.0~b6+build1-0ubuntu1 | 00:57 |
| ahoneybun | soee: I have 26 installed | 01:09 |
| ahoneybun | by default | 01:09 |
| soee | on trusty ? | 01:10 |
| ahoneybun | nope | 01:10 |
| ahoneybun | saucy | 01:10 |
| soee | ah ok :) | 01:10 |
| soee | on trusty its 25 and 27 beta in proposed | 01:10 |
| ahoneybun | 25 by default? | 01:10 |
| soee | yesd\ | 01:11 |
| soee | yes | 01:11 |
| yofel | hm, it's been stuck in proposed for a while now, curious | 01:13 |
| yofel | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+publishinghistory | 01:13 |
| soee | and iv seen several news on various website that 27 is available for 14.04 | 01:16 |
| ahoneybun_ | I guess I should grab some more screenshot of the slides in differents langs then valorie | 02:56 |
| valorie | why do we need to screenshot the slides? | 02:57 |
| valorie | can't we just grab them from the package on the ISO? | 02:57 |
| ahoneybun_ | I screenshot them | 02:58 |
| valorie | seems like unnecessary work to me | 02:59 |
| ahoneybun_ | I did not think of the iso | 02:59 |
| ahoneybun_ | valorie: I made a kubuntu wallpaper lol | 03:10 |
| valorie | nice | 03:11 |
| ahoneybun_ | I'll upload it and show you | 03:11 |
| ScottK | Releasing KDE SC 4.10.5 to saucy-updates. | 06:31 |
| jarkko___ | have you noticed any issues with vlc lately? | 07:55 |
| apachelogger | bug 1232156 :/ | 08:52 |
| ubottu | bug 1232156 in oxygen-gtk3 (Ubuntu) "oxygen-gtk3 does not work out of box on kubuntu 13.10 and 14.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1232156 | 08:52 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: bug 1277312 should land in proposed queue soon | 09:28 |
| ubottu | bug 1277312 in plasma-nm (Ubuntu Trusty) "package plasma-nm 0.9.3.1-0ubuntu1~saucy1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/apps/networkmanager.png', which is also in package kde-workspace-data 4:4.10.5-0ubuntu0.1" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1277312 | 09:28 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: mhhh, libkubuntu demo says support complete becuase the demo isn't really doing anything anymore (i.e. creates empty languages and empty languages are always assumed complete - same when the actually dep file cannot be opened) | 09:45 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: it creates langauges? where? | 09:51 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: Kubuntu::Language l10n; | 09:52 |
| apachelogger | that's Language(QObject *parent=0) which internally leads to no language and consequently all queries will do nothing becuase technically the instance is not valid | 09:52 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: perhaps the default ctor should simply be made private | 09:53 |
| apachelogger | there is no rationale for constructing a Language without an actual Language string | 09:53 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ah so "Constructs an instance with no language set" is pretty useless? | 09:56 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 09:56 |
| apachelogger | if you'd want to get the overall state of langauge supportedness you'd want to use the languagecollection | 09:57 |
| shadeslayer | \o | 10:06 |
| Riddell | seems debian are going for systemd | 10:10 |
| Riddell | I wonder if this is a good thing or not for us | 10:11 |
| shadeslayer | !testers | KDE SC 4.12.2 for Precise in Kubuntu Staging PPA needs testing | 10:11 |
| ubottu | KDE SC 4.12.2 for Precise in Kubuntu Staging PPA needs testing: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley for information | 10:11 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ok, should be good for release now | 10:13 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: do you want me to upload it or will you? | 10:15 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I'll upload | 10:18 |
| apachelogger | once I figured out what's wrong with the symbols file :S | 10:18 |
| apachelogger | for some reason it didn't want to detect symbol retraction, silly thing | 10:18 |
| apachelogger | ScottK, Riddell: libkubuntu should arrive in source new soonishy | 10:38 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://trello.com/c/NZ1tG6nq | 10:40 |
| Riddell | accepted! | 10:40 |
| jarkko___ | i got snapshots running even the program is nowehre to be seen | 10:41 |
| jarkko___ | bug somewhere...? | 10:41 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: review boards don't have a postpone column | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | because the task might be pointless by then | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | report upstream | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | "alas, a bug should be filed against muon because ultimately it should simply hold off on notifications while apt is locked." | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | I keep quoting myself, I am not sure why | 10:42 |
| shadeslayer | Uhm did anyone test the 12.04.4 ISO's? | 10:45 |
| shadeslayer | because there is no panel post install | 10:45 |
| shadeslayer | oh there it is | 10:45 |
| shadeslayer | kvm view port is smaller | 10:46 |
| Riddell | :) | 10:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330980 < move card to done? | 10:50 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 330980 in muon "Muon does not check for apt locks when showing upgrade notifications" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 10:50 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: E: libkubuntu-dbg: copyright-should-refer-to-common-license-file-for-lgpl | 10:50 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: approved! (assuming you'll fix that) | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | oh oh | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I always wonder, where to point with the kde license header | 11:08 |
| BluesKaj | HIyas all | 11:10 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: LGPL 2 | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: but it's not | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: pointed to the symlink one | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | http://commits.kde.org/scratch/sitter/libkubuntu/0fee7c6f71ce53c54d99875baa9d7547a9da4c1d | 11:11 |
| Riddell | that'll do | 11:16 |
| * apachelogger has a serious headache today | 11:21 | |
| * Riddell gives apachelogger an Indian Head Massage | 11:22 | |
| apachelogger | weeeh | 11:23 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: on a new precise kubuntu install (on ec2) if I add staging PPA and dist-upgrade it removes the world http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/dist-upgrade | 11:32 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: you also need backports | 11:32 |
| === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia | ||
| shadeslayer | I've also uploaded KDE Workspace 4.11.6 for trusty/saucy/precise | 11:33 |
| Riddell | ah, soprano is missing | 11:34 |
| Riddell | yo da man | 11:34 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you want to test the new kcm locale patch based on libkubuntu before I upload? | 11:38 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: nah, live on the edge, upload then test :) | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | alas, if there is breakage it likely is of the more subtle kind anyway | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | ok | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=clones/kde-runtime/sitter/kubuntu.git&a=commit&h=b22c86a0fd4ac303f6fc17f2e52713a8a2f71951 for ref | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | from: 7 files changed, 662 insertions(+), 41 deletions(-) | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | to: 4 files changed, 291 insertions(+), 40 deletions(-) | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 11:41 |
| ahoneybun_ | apachelogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/trusty/+merge/205511 | 11:44 |
| === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz | ||
| apachelogger | ahoneybun_: yes, what does it do? | 11:45 |
| ahoneybun_ | it would merge your file from your git repo into the main kubuntu-docs branch | 11:46 |
| ahoneybun_ | *files | 11:46 |
| apachelogger | ahoneybun_: why would we still use the docs branch? :P | 11:47 |
| ahoneybun_ | the package for 13.10 was uploaded there so I thought we are | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | nah, since we don't write docbooks there's no need for a branch | 11:48 |
| ahoneybun_ | docbook = xml. xml = khelpcenter | 11:48 |
| apachelogger | see readme | 11:48 |
| ahoneybun_ | This is a nice wrapper around upstream's wiki2docbook tool? | 11:50 |
| ahoneybun_ | apachelogger: how do I use dput to upload my changes? | 11:54 |
| apachelogger | you can't only developers can | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | well, you can, except the server will reject your upload | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | ahoneybun_: is there a reason you want a new upload? | 11:56 |
| ahoneybun_ | I see | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | just for the slides? because I'd wait until there are some translations | 11:56 |
| ahoneybun_ | I added 14.04 screenshots on the wiki | 11:56 |
| ahoneybun_ | yea | 11:56 |
| ahoneybun_ | oh | 11:56 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun_: will you be working on Tomahawk? | 11:56 |
| shadeslayer | or should I take that up? | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | ahoneybun_: right, get some translations, then poke me and I'll upload a new snapshot for you :) | 11:56 |
| ahoneybun_ | shadeslayer: well I need a mentor as I think I am done with the copyright but not sure | 11:56 |
| ahoneybun_ | apachelogger: sweet thanks :) | 11:57 |
| ahoneybun_ | you mean translations slides? | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun_: meh, usually we don't bother with updating the copyright since that just introduces needless delta with Debian | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | just upload it somewhere and poke someone to have a look | 11:57 |
| ahoneybun_ | shadeslayer: me and yofel did | 11:57 |
| ahoneybun_ | it is on yofel's machine | 11:58 |
| ahoneybun_ | ec2 I thik | 11:58 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: tomahawk isn't in debian | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | bah :/ | 11:58 |
| ahoneybun_ | is there a reason why clementine will not be updated by tomahawk? | 11:59 |
| ahoneybun_ | *but tomahawk will | 11:59 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: could you look at it? 'ssh -p 2224 ubuntu@yofel.dyndns.org' | 11:59 |
| yofel | I just added your key | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | ack | 12:00 |
| shadeslayer | post lunch | 12:00 |
| yofel | thanks | 12:00 |
| ahoneybun_ | yofel: I have a new key | 12:00 |
| yofel | is it on lp? | 12:00 |
| ahoneybun_ | yes | 12:00 |
| yofel | Y510P? | 12:00 |
| ahoneybun_ | yes | 12:00 |
| yofel | added | 12:01 |
| ahoneybun_ | cool | 12:01 |
| apachelogger | man | 12:07 |
| apachelogger | intertubes so slow :'< | 12:07 |
| * apachelogger gets some coffee | 12:07 | |
| Riddell | KDE SC 4.12.2 for Precise in Kubuntu Staging PPA installs and runs good for me | 12:07 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: do I need to write that anywhere? ↑ | 12:08 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, saucy staging ppa works fine here too | 12:08 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: nah, I'd just wait for Workspace to build, test that, and then copy over to backports and release | 12:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: when are you going to blog about drivermanager? | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: before I go home this evening | 12:09 |
| apachelogger | ok | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | going to club with synaptiks replacement | 12:09 |
| BluesKaj | shadeslayer, kde-touchpad ? | 12:10 |
| shadeslayer | BluesKaj: yes | 12:10 |
| BluesKaj | works fine here | 12:10 |
| BluesKaj | on 14.04 | 12:11 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: please make them two posts | 12:11 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: more publicity? | 12:11 |
| apachelogger | bundle posts are terribly inefficient from a PR POV | 12:11 |
| * apachelogger fiddles with kde-runtime | 12:12 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: regarding https://trello.com/c/EzuZZKNG I don't see a hard coded branch | 12:18 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that's in kde-l10n-common I think | 12:20 |
| apachelogger | that's the problem, the script to build language-pack-common is in kde-l10n-common, and builds both at the sametime for apparently no good reason | 12:21 |
| apachelogger | at the same time you cannot build language-pack-common without building kde-l10n-common making updates to the former unnecessarily expensive in terms of build time | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | what's language-pack-common? | 12:21 |
| apachelogger | language-pack-kde-common | 12:22 |
| apachelogger | it's the same as kde-l10n-common except for our language-pack packages | 12:22 |
| apachelogger | which actually it means it is not really the same because the former works on tarballs, whereas the latter simply creates native sources without any content | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | Uploading kde-runtime_4.12.2-0ubuntu2_source.changes: done. | 12:27 |
| apachelogger | Successfully uploaded packages. | 12:27 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ^ | 12:27 |
| apachelogger | ohohoh | 12:32 |
| apachelogger | no | 12:32 |
| * apachelogger cries | 12:32 | |
| mamarley | What's wrong? | 12:33 |
| jarkko___ | anyone know if there is known bug that system keeps programs running, even they should not? | 12:33 |
| apachelogger | no | 12:35 |
| apachelogger | mamarley: ubuntu archive driving me nuts | 12:35 |
| mamarley | Sorry :( | 12:35 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: dude, where is $BRANCH defined? | 12:36 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: config I presume | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I totally cannot read britney output | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu-docs/i386 unsatisfiable Depends: khelpcenter | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | wtf | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | huh | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | no such package | 12:55 |
| apachelogger | Uploading kubuntu-docs_14.04ubuntu2_source.changes: done. | 12:58 |
| apachelogger | Successfully uploaded packages. | 12:58 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: it's right, there is no such package | 12:58 |
| Riddell | you want khelpcenter4 I think | 12:58 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yeah, we had a khelpcenter | www-browser dep earlier | 12:58 |
| apachelogger | and apparently no one ever noticed that khelpcenter does not exist :S | 12:58 |
| apachelogger | has been that way since kde4, such fun | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: anyway, I still do not know why kubuntu-full doesn't install | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | and I cannot read that britney output, so we are all lost :P | 12:59 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: good thing we have britney to tell us :) | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | skipped: kubuntu-meta (6 <- 47) | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | got: 86+0: i-25:a-1:a-60 | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | * arm64: kubuntu-full | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | have fun parsing that :P | 13:00 |
| Riddell | yes, arm64 broken | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | but why | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | I casually strolled through some depends of kubuntu-full and all of them were available, so it probably isn't some low level dep problem | 13:01 |
| Riddell | available on arm64? | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | published in archive for arm64 | 13:03 |
| Riddell | well phonon isn't compiled on arm64 | 13:17 |
| Riddell | which I started looking into last week but let me look more | 13:17 |
| Riddell | ah yes qtscript is at 5.1.1 while qtbase is at 5.0 | 13:19 |
| Riddell | because of a debian sync | 13:19 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: 4.7.0 is compiled on arm64 | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | so that doesn't block kubuntu-meta | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | otherwise it would have blocked eeeeeeeeeeeverything kde | 13:20 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: Sue has present looked at it mocked you mercilessly and then said I suppose he wants me to knit it for him :) | 13:39 |
| Riddell | :) | 13:41 |
| Riddell | actually I already got a compiled version of that source which I gave to my girlfriend | 13:41 |
| Riddell | but there's any number of other KDE fans out there who would appreciate it I'm sure | 13:42 |
| Riddell | or we could auction it, it would go for a fortune! | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: did you upload your calligra stuff yet? | 13:44 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yes 2.7.91 is in | 13:45 |
| Riddell | but not compiled on arm64 and ppc64el | 13:45 |
| Riddell | there is a new alpha needing packaged | 13:45 |
| Riddell | I spose I could look at packaging it in such a way that those obscure arches will compile | 13:46 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: either that or we blacklist | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | well there goes all my dev time | 13:58 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: where? | 14:00 |
| shadeslayer | playing games on steam | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | huh? | 14:00 |
| Riddell | aah | 14:01 |
| Riddell | free games | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | huh? | 14:01 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: see e-mail | 14:01 |
| Riddell | e-mail to ubuntu-devel-announce | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | not sure how that relates to dev time :P | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer | I'll be playing games instead of working | 14:02 |
| Riddell | I just have no desire to play computer games, but I might look at this steam thing since it is getting such a lot of publicity | 14:04 |
| mikhas | Riddell, just get it to show your support for the idea | 14:08 |
| mikhas | there are 1,200 keys to hand out, not even half of them have been claimed yet … | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: yeah, I don't think so | 14:09 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: uhm, it's ... part of QA ;P | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | no it's not | 14:10 |
| shadeslayer | to make sure you can run steam on Kubuntu fine | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | you annot install steam on Kubuntu | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | *cannot | 14:10 |
| shadeslayer | sure you can | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | no you can't | 14:10 |
| shadeslayer | 0.o | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | open discover, search for steam, make screenshot | 14:10 |
| shadeslayer | I have it installed and running just fine | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | seems your QA methodology is crap then? :P | 14:10 |
| shadeslayer | >.> | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | kdeedu : Depends: kstars (>= 4:4.11) but it is not installable | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | kstars failing on arm64? | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: are you ontop of that? | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 14:12 |
| shadeslayer | I'm busy twiddling your bash script | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | I thought you were tracking .2? | 14:12 |
| shadeslayer | or well, trying to understand it completely fully | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: chdist is very lovely I have to say | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | so, who's fixing .2? | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | Missing build dependencies: libindi-dev | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | bummer | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | most days I feel like a private detective | 14:13 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I can't work out how to set it up for arm64 | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | run a command so it tells you edit sources.list | 14:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: and on the indi build log it can't find sys/io.h | 14:14 |
| shadeslayer | which looks arch specific | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: in there you throw | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ trusty main restricted universe multiverse | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ trusty-proposed main restricted universe multiverse | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: then you edit the apt.conf in the same dir and change the Architecture to arm64 | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | (or well, respectively different source lines and architectures for a different chdist) | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: more interesting is why indi is only built on ppc and arm64 | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | ah | 14:15 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | it simply didn't need building since raring | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | zafuq | 14:15 |
| shadeslayer | good that I didn't have to type it out | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | #592893 package libindi0 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/indiserver', which is also in package indi 5:0.5-0ubuntu7 | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | ubottu: hello, bug, hellooooo | 14:16 |
| ubottu | apachelogger: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | too stupid to link a bug obviously | 14:16 |
| jussi | apachelogger: bug 592893 | 14:17 |
| ubottu | bug 592893 in libindi (Ubuntu) "package libindi0 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/indiserver', which is also in package indi 5:0.5-0ubuntu7" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/592893 | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | this is epic | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | there is indi (v0.5) and there's libinidi (v0.9) | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | and I am not sure that they are actually different things | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you remember that stuff, because I sure don't | 14:17 |
| jussi | !info indi | 14:17 |
| ubottu | Package indi does not exist in saucy | 14:18 |
| jussi | !info inidi | 14:18 |
| ubottu | Package inidi does not exist in saucy | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | jussi: I meant source packagewise | 14:18 |
| jussi | oh | 14:18 |
| jussi | fail... :D | 14:18 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: what am I doing wrong here? it's wanting to load i386 http://paste.kde.org/pikyskfun | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yeah, ignore | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | does the same here, no clue why | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | Get:3 http://ports.ubuntu.com trusty/main arm64 Packages [1,220 kB] | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | it actually got the arm64 sources | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | but then it tries to fetch i386 for some reason | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | oh, actually, perhaps because of arch-all packages? | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | although then I would see more uninstallable stuff in my install kdeedu I suppose | 14:20 |
| shadeslayer | try doing dpkg --remove-architecture i386 | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | kstars | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | Latest upload: | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | 4:4.11.5-0ubuntu0.1 | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | launchpad is really weird some days | 14:21 |
| Riddell | indi changelog says "remove indi package now built from libindi, this package only needed for libsbigudrv" | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | this is very confusing | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | make libindi build on arm64? | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: equally confusing is that it doesn't build becuse sys/io.h sounds like it's from libc and it'd be curious if arm64's libc was missing that | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | (it also doesn't build on ppc fwiw) | 14:23 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: apt-file can't find a sys/io.h for arm fwiw | 14:23 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: need more explanation on the kde i10n task | 14:23 |
| shadeslayer | I still don't understand the issue | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | such as? | 14:24 |
| shadeslayer | okay, I'll explain what I've understood so far? | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | go ahead | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | I fear you may want to move on to another card though | 14:24 |
| * apachelogger points out that kstars' git repo is like 3000000 superbytes big | 14:25 | |
| * apachelogger also points out that he dropped some painkillers for the headache and might fall off the chair any minute ^^ | 14:26 | |
| shadeslayer | build-l10n.sh grabs kde translation sources, then stuffs language-pack-kde-common into the source ( this contains the common packaging ) , then does lang pack code mapping and then runs dpkg-buildpackage? | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | nope | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: what's wrong in there? | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | and that's what's wrong with it :P | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | kde-l10n-common has nothing to do with language-pack-kde-common | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | there is no logical logical tie between the two | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | there is however an architectural as the script that will expand kde-l10n-common into kde-l10n-$foo ALSO expands language-pack-kde-common into language-pack-kde-$foo | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: seems indi is an optional dep on kstars, so we could just not buildep on it | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: to be honest though, it might be simpler to simply fiddle with the meta package | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | seeing as kdenetwork probably has a similar issue and arm64 isn't really interesting to us anyway | 14:29 |
| Riddell | I wouldn't be against that | 14:30 |
| Riddell | although arm64 phonon build just started :) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon/4:4.7.1-0ubuntu3/+build/5552771 | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | well, we need that for phonon's promotion anyway | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | right now there's no phonon 4.7.1 :s | 14:31 |
| Riddell | hopefully this'll fix that | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | kdenetwork : Depends: kopete (>= 4:4.11) but it is not installable | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | Recommends: kdenetwork-filesharing (>= 4:4.11) but it is not going to be installed | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | Recommends: kde-zeroconf (>= 4:4.11) but it is not going to be installed | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | Recommends: kdenetwork-strigi-analyzers (>= 4:4.11) but it is not going to be installe | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | I think kdenetwork will be nigh empty | 14:33 |
| Riddell | it's a meta package no? | 14:33 |
| Riddell | I mean it's just made from meta-kde | 14:33 |
| Riddell | ah yes it's just a problem with kopete | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | ../../../../../protocols/jabber/googletalk/libjingle/talk/base/systeminfo.cc:105:2: error: #error "Unknown architecture." | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, I'll blacklist those things as well but add a card to report the build failures upstream | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | supposedly most of them are straight forward | 14:35 |
| Riddell | since googletalk doesn't exist any more anyway I think we can remove that from kopete | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | like that googletalk error | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: best talk with upstream or we get angry upstream mail again ^^ | 14:36 |
| Riddell | there is a kopete upstream? | 14:36 |
| Riddell | well yes, that guy who asked us to add new dependencies a while ago | 14:37 |
| shadeslayer | https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00376.html | 14:39 |
| Riddell | kopete already has ifeq ($(DEB_HOST_GNU_CPU),powerpc) $(overridden_command) -- -DWITH_GOOGLETALK=false | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I think he does active commits upstream as well | 14:40 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: debian seem to be self destructing slightly | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | imploding | 14:41 |
| Riddell | but I'm pretty sure at the end of it they'll go for systemd | 14:42 |
| Riddell | meh | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: seems only kopete is blocking after all | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | not sure why apt talks about the recommends, they are perfectly installable | 14:42 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ok I'll fix kopete | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: nah | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: just report upstream :P | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | or send him a mail | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | not really worth the time IMO | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | anyway | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | meta-kde with blacklisting going up in a second or two | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | going to modify the seed for calligra | 14:46 |
| * Riddell cheers as phonon builds on arm64 | 14:47 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ahhhh now I get it | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: lines 217 to 227 need to be split out into their own script | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | so that one can build kde-l10n-foo and language-pack-kde-foo separately | 14:49 |
| apachelogger | that ought to be the end result, yeah | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | got it | 14:49 |
| apachelogger | how one gets there I do not know | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | seems simple | 14:49 |
| agateau | apachelogger: I is messing wit partman http://agateau.com/tmp/partman.png | 14:54 |
| * agateau wonders if that screenshot is actually readable | 14:57 | |
| Riddell | agateau: there's a lot in it, take us through it | 14:58 |
| agateau | Riddell: The meat is the top-left corner, this is a test app for the partition widget | 14:58 |
| apachelogger | agateau: oh, you found a use for kmag ^^ | 14:59 |
| agateau | Riddell: the two versions on the right are the same window, viewed through kmag, which has options to simulate some eye issues | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | agateau: run it by ovidiu-florin I guess | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | looks good though I guess | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: updating kubuntu-meta | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | perhaps we'll finally get our ISOs below the size limit ^^ | 15:01 |
| Riddell | agateau: ooh accessibility! | 15:01 |
| agateau | Riddell: who would have thought about that!? | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | hah | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | now kubuntu-docs ftbfs | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | ah, bogus upload | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | whut | 15:08 |
| shadeslayer | -- checking for module 'freetype2' | 15:08 |
| shadeslayer | -- found freetype2, version 14.0.8 | 15:08 |
| shadeslayer | -- Could NOT find Freetype (missing: FREETYPE_INCLUDE_DIRS) (found version "14.0.8") | 15:08 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/pl8smjt4p | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | initial port | 15:19 |
| yofel | did they break the freetype check... again? | 15:26 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I see lots of dead peoeple | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | eh | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I see lots of duplicated code | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yeah | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | not much of a port then is it, more like a copy :P | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: Know a way to move the mapping functions into something like common.sh? | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | yofel: trusty is supposed to break I was told ^^ | 15:29 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: that's from precise | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ctrl-x alt-tab ctrl-v | 15:29 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: right, but will it work? | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | why would it not work Oo | 15:29 |
| yofel | and that's kde-workspace? | 15:30 |
| yofel | the freetype check did change in cmake in trusty, but I don't think the kde side changed anything.. | 15:30 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: because it didn't when I tried it | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer | ah I know | 15:31 |
| shadeslayer | why it didn't work | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | :O | 15:32 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: do I leave the calligra part of the code in build-l10n.sh or in build-langpack? | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | which is the new script | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | what's the calligra part? | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | CALLIGRA=`apt-cache policy calligra-l10n-${kdecode}` | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | looks like something that would go in the langpack | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | Riddell, jussi, yofel, shadeslayer, ScottK, valorie: I am done rewriting most of our currenct policies review would be much appreciated before I put it up for discussio and approval on the list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Policies | 15:35 |
| sgclark | Riddell: dpic needed for cirkuit ready for your review in my ubuntu one | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | key policies are bug triage, patching, stable updates | 15:35 |
| yofel | sweet | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | policies marked with ((NEW)) are either completely new or were almost entirely rewritten | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what's that good for? | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: and why is it apt-caching? | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | that seems like cheatingt | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | and since today we learned about chdist... if anything this shoudl chdist apt-cache ^^ | 15:36 |
| Riddell | sgclark: ooh | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common/view/head:/debian/build-l10n.sh#L229 | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | that seems silly | 15:37 |
| yofel | wow, chdist looks awesome :O | 15:38 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: those shoudl be Recommends, and the apt-cache check is useless | 15:38 |
| shadeslayer | separate task | 15:38 |
| apachelogger | why do you ask me what to do with it then? | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | it's part of the pack logic, obviously :P | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | (actually I am not sure anything should dep on calligra-l10n) | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | calligra l10n should be installed through our language-support magic | 15:40 |
| apachelogger | just like no pack depends libreoffice l10n etc. | 15:40 |
| Riddell | dpic-2014.Jan.01.tar.gz that is not a very clever version name :( | 15:40 |
| apachelogger | oh gawd | 15:41 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: dpkg-gencontrol: error: the Depends field contains an arch-specific dependency but the package is architecture all | 15:41 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: can't really twiddle with the metapackages | 15:41 |
| apachelogger | or we make the meta packges arch:any | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: new magic pushed | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: any objections to the latter, otherwise I'll go ahead with that for now? | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | alas, I need to leave in a bit, so perhaps you shoudl do that ^^ | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I see lots of duplicated code. | 15:46 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: making it arch:any? that seems the right thing to do if it's different on different arches | 15:47 |
| Riddell | but you can change which arches a package is pulled in on in the seed | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yeah but then I either have to replicate the meta package (manually list all packages) or blacklist the entire metapackage, neither is apprpriate on the seed level | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: going to arch:any the two | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | both metas uploaded and I am out for today | 15:52 |
| Riddell | sgclark: here's my comments http://paste.kde.org/pcpgc79ov | 15:52 |
| Riddell | sometimes the small packages are the messyest | 15:52 |
| * Riddell cheers as phonon and phono-backend-* moves to -release | 15:54 | |
| sgclark | Riddell: not sure what you mean on #3. I don't have an ubuntu email | 15:59 |
| Riddell | sgclark: we don't use the Maintainer field in ubuntu because we maintain everything communally | 15:59 |
| Riddell | so we just set it to something generic like Maintainer: Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com> | 15:59 |
| Riddell | and then if you want to keep some credit you can use XSBC-Original-Maintainer: Scarlett Clark <scarlett@scarlettgatelyclark.com> | 15:59 |
| sgclark | oh I understand ty | 16:00 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: should be fixed now | 16:01 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I need clarity on #9, what do you mean rebuild tar? | 16:01 |
| Riddell | sgclark: extract tar, remove evil non-free .pdf files, make a new tar without them | 16:01 |
| sgclark | oh ok | 16:02 |
| Riddell | we can't ship PDF files unless they have some modifiable version of it alongside | 16:02 |
| Riddell | this is one of the corner cases of Free Software that people don't often think about | 16:02 |
| Riddell | so you should end up with dpic_2014.01.01+dfsg1.orig.tar.gz | 16:04 |
| Riddell | hi ari-tczew, did you get let back in? | 16:04 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: hi, yes, I'm back :) | 16:06 |
| Riddell | yay! | 16:06 |
| Riddell | ari-tczew: lots of useful things to be done on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ should you be in a kde mood :) | 16:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I need a big task | 16:10 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: will keep in mind :P | 16:11 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: package Kf5 alpha 1! | 16:11 |
| shadeslayer | oh hmm, possiblyapa apachelogger left | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: mmmm .. don't feel like packaging stuff | 16:12 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: it's mostly needs the kubuntu-automation scripts adapted for kf5 | 16:14 |
| ghostcube | wenn jemand brassbanda mag | 16:16 |
| ghostcube | heuite um 23.25 auf zdf kultur | 16:16 |
| * Riddell removes kgraphviewer | 16:19 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: oh you can test agateau's patch to ubiquity | 16:19 |
| Riddell | https://code.launchpad.net/~agateau/ubiquity/kde-no-fullscreen/+merge/203105 | 16:19 |
| Riddell | might need a kubuntu image rebuilt to test properly | 16:19 |
| Riddell | including with oem install, install only and live desktop install | 16:20 |
| agateau | Riddell: just filed a mr for the partition btw | 16:20 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: there's another task :) | 16:20 |
| agateau | :D | 16:20 |
| * Riddell cheers as kopete compiles on all platforms | 16:21 | |
| Riddell | agateau: hmm, looks like I need to remove massif-visualizer as well (since it builds on kgraphviewer and kgraphviewer doesn't build with current graphviz) | 16:24 |
| agateau | Riddell: it's not like I am really maintaining it :/ | 16:25 |
| agateau | Someone has volunteered to take over the package on the Debian side | 16:25 |
| Riddell | well good luck to them since I guess they'll need to get kgraphviewer compiling again | 16:26 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun_: what are those repack tarballs that I see | 16:36 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: tomahawk repacked without windows stuff IIRC | 16:36 |
| shadeslayer | sorry, I meant repack scripts | 16:36 |
| shadeslayer | there's debian/repack.stub | 16:37 |
| yofel | that's from harald | 16:37 |
| yofel | IIRC there's some debian document that says how those work | 16:37 |
| yofel | something for uupdate I think | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer | http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/howto/repacking.html | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | I see | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | thats neat | 16:40 |
| yofel | AFAIR the package was pretty much done, I think there was something in lintian though and we tried to update the copyright file | 16:43 |
| yofel | which is pretty messy for tomahawk | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | hah | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | tsdgeos: freetype detection broken in kde-workspace | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | probably because of 748f96a58ac6a740c65e61189a4e0a427764e1e6 | 16:46 |
| Riddell | freetype detection... | 16:49 |
| Riddell | there's a patch for that in cmake | 16:49 |
| yofel | the detection itself seems to work, it's the feature summary that checks for the wrong value it seems | 16:50 |
| Riddell | ubuntu has a different patch in cmake than debian does | 16:50 |
| Riddell | maybe ubuntu has it wrong? | 16:50 |
| yofel | I did what looked sane, dunno what debian did | 16:50 |
| yofel | well, they simply fixed the path, I fixed the path + added some changes so it doesn't break again | 16:52 |
| yofel | or on backports | 16:52 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: try with http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/FindFreetype.cmake (debian version) | 16:52 |
| Riddell | in /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindFreetype.cmake | 16:52 |
| Riddell | bug 1256710 | 16:53 |
| ubottu | bug 1256710 in cmake (Ubuntu) "cmake can't find freetype 2.5" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1256710 | 16:53 |
| * Riddell cheers as okular builds on ppc64el | 16:54 | |
| yofel | hm, debian's FindFreetype.cmake should break kde-workspace actually | 16:55 |
| yofel | they seem to have the freetype headers in a different location than we do | 16:55 |
| yofel | " The FindFreetype.cmake module needs a new volunteer maintainer and a major overhaul " | 16:56 |
| yofel | yay for unmaintained cmake modules | 16:56 |
| * Riddell cheers as kopete migrates to -release | 17:02 | |
| * Riddell uploads cmake_2.8.12.2 with yofel's existing freetype patch | 17:04 | |
| sgclark | Riddell: dpic ready | 17:04 |
| Riddell | sgclark: you left some .o files in that new .orig.tar run make clean before rebuilding the tar | 17:07 |
| sgclark | ok | 17:07 |
| Riddell | sgclark: probably comment on debian/changelog that you removed the pdf files | 17:08 |
| Riddell | or in debian/README.source | 17:09 |
| sgclark | ok | 17:09 |
| Riddell | sgclark: same for the changed versioning | 17:09 |
| Riddell | sgclark: otherwise looks good | 17:11 |
| * Riddell wanders home | 17:11 | |
| sgclark | Riddell: done | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: so how far along did you get wrt updating the license | 17:15 |
| yofel | hm... | 17:16 |
| yofel | I'm pretty sure the GPL part is correct, and we did partly update the LGPL and BSD stuff, but I think there's some new things missing there | 17:17 |
| yofel | needs validation in any case | 17:17 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: fwiw ximion told me about a magic patch for licensecheck that outputs the licenses in dep 5 | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | and there's a ./thirdparty/breakpad/common/convert_UTF.c | 17:20 |
| yofel | seriously? :O | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | erm, I mean /usr/lib/cdbs/licensecheck2dep5 | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: yeah, pinged him for the patch | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: I'm thinking of sneaking it in | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | so many steam games \o/ | 17:30 |
| yofel | if you think so go ahead - as I said the package was mostly done | 17:30 |
| * jussi throws tomatos at shadeslayer | 17:33 | |
| * shadeslayer holds up a freescale board | 17:33 | |
| jussi | are freescale boards that worthless? | 17:34 |
| jussi | :P | 17:34 |
| shadeslayer | they're so awesome that they protect you from tomatos | 17:34 |
| * jussi prods at shadeslayer | 17:35 | |
| jussi | shadeslayer: pm............. | 17:36 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: For bug 1277312, shouldn't it be << 4.12? | 18:18 |
| ubottu | bug 1277312 in plasma-nm (Ubuntu Saucy) "package plasma-nm 0.9.3.1-0ubuntu1~saucy1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/icons/oxygen/32x32/apps/networkmanager.png', which is also in package kde-workspace-data 4:4.10.5-0ubuntu0.1" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1277312 | 18:18 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: wtf | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindFreetype.cmake hasn't changed between trusty and precise | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | yet precise doesn't build, while trusty does | 18:20 |
| ximion | shadeslayer: sorry, I was away - you can use the licensecheck2dep5 wrapper, which is much more clean | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | aw | 18:25 |
| ximion | before, I used http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=472199#22 | 18:25 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 472199 in devscripts "[licensecheck] generate machine readable DEP-5 debian/copyright file" [Wishlist,Open] | 18:25 |
| ximion | that report is full of patches for the issue ^^ | 18:25 |
| ximion | use | 18:26 |
| ximion | licensecheck --copyright -r . | /usr/lib/cdbs/licensecheck2dep5 > debian/copyright | 18:26 |
| ximion | and fix the copyright file afterwards | 18:26 |
| lordievader | Good evening. | 18:29 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: with the changes to freetype that's kinda impossible - do you have a cmake backport for precise? | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: that's what I'm doing | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | building cmake in pbuilder, try with that | 18:32 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: emacsen-common will need to be backported too :( | 18:34 |
| yofel | why o.O? | 18:34 |
| shadeslayer | cmake-data conflicts with emacsen-common (<< 2.0.0) | 18:34 |
| yofel | -.- | 18:34 |
| ximion | shadeslayer: btw, looks like you missed an awesome karate show at my fosdem talk :D | 18:34 |
| shadeslayer | oh? :D | 18:34 |
| shadeslayer | is it on video? | 18:35 |
| ximion | I didn't know that I move that much if I can't walk a little ^^ | 18:35 |
| ximion | yup | 18:35 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 18:35 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: I'll cheat | 18:35 |
| yofel | ^^ | 18:36 |
| shadeslayer | hm nope | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.kde.org/pzipenewn | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: well, backporting emacsen-common was easy | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: yeah works with new freetype | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | new cmake | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | madness | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | I'll backport it | 18:47 |
| shadeslayer | oh fooey | 18:51 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: we also need to backport debhelper | 18:51 |
| yofel | I fear I'll leave you alone with that quest | 18:52 |
| * yofel makes his way home | 18:52 | |
| shadeslayer | well, it built fine | 18:55 |
| jussi | aww, they are booting me!!! | 18:55 |
| jussi | killing my server... | 18:55 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: ? | 18:55 |
| jussi | Poor wolfe... | 18:56 |
| jussi | [20:54:42] <Kubuntu IRC:tomaw:tomaw> [Server Notice] This server will be retired shortly. Please reconnect to chat.freenode.net | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | aw | 18:56 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Nevermind. Figured it out. | 19:15 |
| === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter | ||
| ahoneybun_ | shadeslayer: tarballs? | 20:00 |
| === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter | ||
| ahoneybun | valorie: added a screenshot on http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Software/Games/Steam the one that on the kubuntu wiki used Muon SC. | 22:05 |
| ahoneybun | I have the backports ppa installed byt 32 packages are being held back | 22:13 |
| yofel | which release? | 22:14 |
| ahoneybun | 13.10 | 22:15 |
| yofel | let me check | 22:15 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: hm, I see nothing obviously wrong, mind pastebinning the apt-get output? | 22:17 |
| ahoneybun | does the root file system ever go over 25gbs? | 22:17 |
| ahoneybun | sure | 22:17 |
| yofel | depends on what you have there... I've managed to fill up to 40G in there, but that's with lots of debug packages, logs, caches, database files, ... | 22:18 |
| ahoneybun | because I have kubuntu installed in a 25gb ssd | 22:19 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: http://pastebin.com/rASk2s64 | 22:19 |
| yofel | wouldn't be enough for me, but it does work. I wouldn't make a seperate partition for / though | 22:19 |
| yofel | I do have kubuntu running comfortably on a 60G SSD | 22:20 |
| ahoneybun | well I wanted to see the speed boost | 22:20 |
| yofel | ah, if that's notebook it should be noticible ^^ | 22:20 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 22:20 |
| ahoneybun | ubuntu boots in 13 secs | 22:20 |
| ahoneybun | have not timed kubuntu | 22:21 |
| ahoneybun | I removed windows completey | 22:21 |
| ahoneybun | and have no way of getting it back unless I get a copy | 22:22 |
| ahoneybun | as this notebook does not have the product key on the case | 22:22 |
| yofel | if you want hard boot measurements you could try bootchart, but that's more for debugging hangs during boot | 22:22 |
| ahoneybun | I timed it with my phone lol | 22:22 |
| yofel | it doesn't o.O? | 22:22 |
| ahoneybun | not on the outside at all | 22:22 |
| yofel | it's not under the battery? | 22:23 |
| ahoneybun | um | 22:23 |
| yofel | that's where they usually put it lately - unless it's an ultrabook, then I'm clueless | 22:24 |
| ahoneybun | has some letters and numbers on a bar code | 22:24 |
| ahoneybun | but not sure as I'm used to it being on a sticker that says "Product Key: | 22:24 |
| yofel | yeah, that's what it should be | 22:24 |
| yofel | (the colorful sticker I mean) | 22:25 |
| ahoneybun | yea but nothing there | 22:25 |
| ahoneybun | some people are saying it is in the bios | 22:25 |
| ahoneybun | but this has efi | 22:25 |
| ahoneybun | brb | 22:27 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: only thing in the bios is something about windows license | 22:34 |
| ahoneybun | win8 std mlt | 22:34 |
| yofel | no idea, I have 0 experience with EFI | 22:37 |
| ahoneybun | all the programs that extract the key run in windows | 22:38 |
| ahoneybun | so | 22:38 |
| ahoneybun | I have to (1) "download" a copy from the web | 22:38 |
| ahoneybun | (2) buy a legal dvd | 22:38 |
| yofel | well, you can download an image from microsoft directly, not sure how that'll run though without key - again no experience with win8 | 22:39 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 22:40 |
| ahoneybun | 119.99 | 22:41 |
| ahoneybun | at microsoft store | 22:41 |
| yofel | no, you can download the install images for free - as long as you later have a valid key | 22:41 |
| * ahoneybun wonders what is different in the OEM version that makes it 99.99 | 22:42 | |
| apachelogger | :@ | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu-full still doesn't migrate | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | argh | 22:44 |
| yofel | what did you do to it o.O? | 22:45 |
| apachelogger | I didn't do anything britney and arm64 screw with it | 22:45 |
| apachelogger | well wtf | 22:45 |
| apachelogger | if I try to install it manually all deps are met | 22:45 |
| ahoneybun | seems firefox 27 got pushed | 22:45 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: well, there still is no blog post | 22:46 |
| yofel | britney output is so hard to understand :S | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | kdeedu/ppc64el unsatisfiable Depends: kalzium (>= 4:4.11) | 22:48 |
| apachelogger | kdeedu/ppc64el unsatisfiable Depends: step (>= 4:4.11) | 22:48 |
| apachelogger | bummer | 22:48 |
| apachelogger | silly architectures: the gift that keeps on giving | 22:48 |
| yofel | how did you find that o.O? | 22:49 |
| yofel | kalzium at least should be an easy fix | 22:49 |
| apachelogger | yofel: completely pointless effort | 22:51 |
| * ahoneybun starts LONG download of 4gbs | 22:52 | |
| yofel | force it in instead? | 22:52 |
| ahoneybun | ? | 22:52 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 22:52 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: why are you trying to reinstall windows? ^^ | 22:52 |
| ahoneybun | maybe games | 22:53 |
| ahoneybun | idk | 22:53 |
| yofel | ah, that's valid I guess | 22:53 |
| apachelogger | I like how shadeslayer makes time to fix build failures on architectures we do not care about but not blog posts about things we do care about | 22:53 |
| * apachelogger cheers | 22:53 | |
| apachelogger | yofel: going to twiddle kdeedu meta a bit more | 22:53 |
| ahoneybun | kinda feel crappy for writting over window | 22:54 |
| ahoneybun | s | 22:54 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: let me fix that for you | 22:55 |
| ahoneybun | ? | 22:56 |
| shadeslayer | erm | 22:56 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ^^ | 22:56 |
| apachelogger | not fun mate, not fun | 22:56 |
| shadeslayer | laundry > blogging | 22:56 |
| apachelogger | yofel: did you look at step? | 22:57 |
| apachelogger | before I go digging there | 22:57 |
| yofel | nope | 22:57 |
| apachelogger | oh | 22:57 |
| apachelogger | also because of eigen2 | 22:58 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: fixed | 22:58 |
| shadeslayer | now to wait for world domination | 22:59 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I'll write the kde-touchpad post tomorrow | 23:00 |
| apachelogger | Uploading meta-kde_78ubuntu11_source.changes: done. | 23:00 |
| apachelogger | Successfully uploaded packages. | 23:00 |
| apachelogger | hopefully that unblocks all metas now -.- | 23:00 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: whom do I poke about https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/1278142 | 23:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1278142 in Ubuntu Translations "kubuntu-driver-manager not localized " [High,Triaged] | 23:01 |
| ahoneybun | apachelogger: where did you upload the kubuntu-docs package? | 23:01 |
| apachelogger | trusty | 23:01 |
| ahoneybun | like a site/location | 23:02 |
| apachelogger | trusty? | 23:02 |
| apachelogger | packages.ubuntu.com probably will show it | 23:02 |
| apachelogger | alas, might not yet have updated | 23:02 |
| apachelogger | " Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. " | 23:02 |
| * ahoneybun sees some fine work on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/HowTo "from a Doc Person state of mind" | 23:02 | |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: btw tomahawk also uploaded earlier | 23:03 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: dpm, just like about aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllll the other bugs | 23:03 |
| shadeslayer | not sure if I mentioned that | 23:03 |
| ahoneybun | shadeslayer: awesome how bad did I do on the licenses and such? | 23:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: th one person that's rarely available? | 23:03 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that one | 23:03 |
| apachelogger | apparently localization is now in "maintenance mode" | 23:03 |
| shadeslayer | ;) | 23:04 |
| yofel | ahoneybun: after pastebin finally loaded the page, dist-upgrade will probably fix that | 23:04 |
| shadeslayer | yay, tomahawk was rejected actually | 23:04 |
| yofel | oh? | 23:04 |
| shadeslayer | no upload rights | 23:04 |
| yofel | ah right, it's not in the packageset | 23:04 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: plz be uploading tomahawk from ppa:rohangarg/experimental | 23:05 |
| shadeslayer | should be landing ~soonish | 23:05 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: upgrading now | 23:05 |
| ahoneybun | 4.12.1 | 23:05 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: not too bad regarding licenses | 23:05 |
| ahoneybun | yay! | 23:05 |
| shadeslayer | I added some that had public domain and one with a curl license | 23:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: can I get a debdiff plz | 23:06 |
| ahoneybun | thanks yofel on tomahawk | 23:06 |
| shadeslayer | ahoneybun: I only spotted those because of scripts btw :P | 23:06 |
| ahoneybun | scripts? | 23:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/165582281/tomahawk_0.6.0%2Bdfsg1-0ubuntu3_0.7.0%2Bdfsg1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz | 23:07 |
| ahoneybun | licensecheck? | 23:07 |
| yofel | shadeslayer dug out some more scripts | 23:07 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 23:07 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: btw indenting on some licenses was bad | 23:07 |
| shadeslayer | extra spaces on some lines | 23:08 |
| yofel | we were using nano... | 23:08 |
| shadeslayer | heh :) | 23:08 |
| ahoneybun | apachelogger: does it make sense to include a txt file with the team members in the kubuntu-docs package? | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | hm | 23:08 |
| * ahoneybun only knows nano. ;( | 23:08 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer, ahoneybun, yofel: complete copy of LGPL missing | 23:09 |
| yofel | eh | 23:09 |
| apachelogger | don't see one anyway | 23:09 |
| yofel | ah right, license.txt is gpl3 | 23:09 |
| shadeslayer | yep ^^ | 23:10 |
| apachelogger | I thought I told muesli to fix that | 23:10 |
| apachelogger | :@ | 23:10 |
| * ahoneybun plays Bioshock Infinite | 23:10 | |
| shadeslayer | clearly he ignored you | 23:10 |
| * shadeslayer has Bioshock infinite lying around somewhere too | 23:11 | |
| shadeslayer | no time to play :( | 23:11 |
| apachelogger | well | 23:11 |
| apachelogger | someone needs to repack the tar again | 23:11 |
| shadeslayer | tomorrow morning | 23:16 |
| shadeslayer | off to bed I am, night | 23:16 |
| yofel | nini | 23:16 |
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