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ianorlinno cd dvd drive either?00:15
GumbootIs 4.7GB of disk space really necessary to install, or is that just some glitch that comes from using the original Ubuntu installer or something?00:33
GumbootOr even 2.7GB... still seems kind of huge.  Where does it all go00:46
chrohi03:55
ianorlincan I help you?03:55
chrohow much disk-space do I need for installing lubuntu03:56
Unit193Well, how much do you have?03:56
greeterwell i don't know precisely chro... i put it on a 20 gig partition and i have 12 gigs on it still free. i've installed stuff since then though03:56
Unit193I had it on 10G once.03:57
chroI have 5 G free03:57
Unit193That's cutting it close...03:57
greeterhmm you could be pushing it with lubuntu then, especially since you'll want a swap partition and probably a separate home partition too03:58
chrothe regular ubuntu without libre office occupies roughly 5G03:58
chroso I was hoping I could do better with lubuntu03:58
Unit193Could try...03:59
greeterif you can install it without losing data, give it a shot. installing lubuntu from a cd takes no time at all, especially if you don't download any of the addons03:59
chrocause my limitation is not in terms of CPU or memory, rather in terms of disk-space04:01
chromaybe another distro will suite me better04:01
greeterif you're really concerned about disk space you could dry dsl, which stands for damn small linux. the iso is only about 50 megs04:02
greeterbut like i say, if the space is there and it doesn't contain anything you don't have copies of, try it out first04:02
Unit193!mini | Just do this and build up.04:02
ubottuJust do this and build up.: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD04:02
chrook thanks04:05
greeterhmm i never knew that. you learn something new every day about linux it seems04:06
Unit193greeter: Tried SliTaz?04:06
greeterno actually. haven't heard of it till just now04:06
Unit19330MB. :D04:06
greetervery nice04:06
greeteri'd love to be able to build my own distro. i looked into it once, seems like a big hassle for a small reward though04:06
Unit193Awwh, you no in -offtopic. :(04:07
greeterwhat's the off topic channel called?04:07
Unit193#lubuntu-offtopic :P04:07
ianorlin#lubuntu-offtopic04:07
GumbootThe problem I've had with building up from small distros is that you don't necessarily get all the warning you'd like about how much you'll need when you're done.04:25
GumbootI installed Debian in 2GB, and somewhere along the line it ran out of space, handled errors badly, hid thme from me, and fell to pieces.04:26
greeteryes i can understand how that would be the case04:26
greeterouch04:26
GumbootFortunately it did this early, so I hadn't invested too much effort in it... except for the time spent trying to figure out why stuff wasn't working.  I never thought to check df, and I worked it out when I went to install some other diagnostic and caught the error messages in the process.04:27
GumbootI _thought_ I had installed so little...04:27
GumbootWas wondering if anybody had tried building an x32 distribution, too.  Wanted to know if the system came out comparably small to an i386 distribution.04:30
GumbootOf course, I only know the possibility exists because of the recent security issue.  No such thing as bad publicity...04:30
greeterhmm04:33
cyborg4Hey,06:52
cyborg4I have a problem with my ThinkPad T30 running Lubuntu.06:52
cyborg4It's not compatible with the tp_smapi driver, so how can I gain control of my battery?06:52
cyborg4ATM I can't even get my battery to charge.06:53
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Dualityhi20:35
gilevening all - I have a weird old version of lubuntu 12.04 - it runs fine but I've borked it up somewhere along the way and it won't recognise that there are updates available. Can anyone tell me what files I should look at to see why it won't recognise 13.10 as an update and offer it?20:41
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Unit193gil: It won't offer 13.10, you have to jump one by one, unless you select 14.04 but that may cause a small bit of breakage (Also, recommended that you wait at this point until 14.04 comes out, more simple.)20:43
gilunit193 thanks. I'm essentially on 12.04 at the moment, but it won't offer me any updates at all. It's almost as if it doesn't recognise that it's a lubuntu installation :)20:43
Unit193"essentially on 12.04"?20:44
gilfrom what I remember, when I tried a lubuntu live cd it wouldn't recognise the partition is a lubuntu partition either - despite the fact that I am getting most 12.04 updates through fine20:44
Unit193Try  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a terminal.20:44
gilso it's a fully working 12.04 installation that doesn't know what it is :)  I'm wondering if there's a sources file or something that may have gotten corrupted20:44
gilunit193 will do20:44
Unit193The sources list is at /etc/apt/sources.list20:45
Dualitywhere can I find 50-synaptics.conf ?20:45
gilUnit193 Bah! 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.20:48
Unit193Duality: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf20:48
DualityUnit193: yea the xorg.conf.d folder isn't there20:49
Unit193gil: You sure there are any?  Look at the sources.list file?20:49
gilUnit193 yeah I checked out sources.list - no references at all to lubuntu, just ubuntu stuff.... wondering if that's correct or not20:49
Unit193Duality: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics would have to be installed.20:50
Unit193gil: It is.20:50
gilUnit193 I'm trying to force re-install lubuntu-desktop to see if that fixes things20:51
gilhrrrm still no joy. It just doesn't seem to think that there's an update to 12.10 (sorry - I said 12.04 before).... I'm wondering if this is because something is telling it that it's not lubuntu 12.10 so it doesn't realise20:53
Unit193Bah, systems updates != system upgrades (at least in my head.)  In that case,  do-release-upgrade  or  upgrade-manager -c   for the gui one.20:54
DualityUnit193: found it was looking in the wrong place :S21:03
DualityUnit193: thanks!21:03
Unit193Sure.21:03
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