[00:15] no cd dvd drive either? [00:33] Is 4.7GB of disk space really necessary to install, or is that just some glitch that comes from using the original Ubuntu installer or something? [00:46] Or even 2.7GB... still seems kind of huge. Where does it all go [03:55] hi [03:55] can I help you? [03:56] how much disk-space do I need for installing lubuntu [03:56] Well, how much do you have? [03:56] well i don't know precisely chro... i put it on a 20 gig partition and i have 12 gigs on it still free. i've installed stuff since then though [03:57] I had it on 10G once. [03:57] I have 5 G free [03:57] That's cutting it close... [03:58] hmm you could be pushing it with lubuntu then, especially since you'll want a swap partition and probably a separate home partition too [03:58] the regular ubuntu without libre office occupies roughly 5G [03:58] so I was hoping I could do better with lubuntu [03:59] Could try... [03:59] if you can install it without losing data, give it a shot. installing lubuntu from a cd takes no time at all, especially if you don't download any of the addons [04:01] cause my limitation is not in terms of CPU or memory, rather in terms of disk-space [04:01] maybe another distro will suite me better [04:02] if you're really concerned about disk space you could dry dsl, which stands for damn small linux. the iso is only about 50 megs [04:02] but like i say, if the space is there and it doesn't contain anything you don't have copies of, try it out first [04:02] !mini | Just do this and build up. [04:02] Just do this and build up.: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [04:05] ok thanks [04:06] hmm i never knew that. you learn something new every day about linux it seems [04:06] greeter: Tried SliTaz? [04:06] no actually. haven't heard of it till just now [04:06] 30MB. :D [04:06] very nice [04:06] i'd love to be able to build my own distro. i looked into it once, seems like a big hassle for a small reward though [04:07] Awwh, you no in -offtopic. :( [04:07] what's the off topic channel called? [04:07] #lubuntu-offtopic :P [04:07] #lubuntu-offtopic [04:25] The problem I've had with building up from small distros is that you don't necessarily get all the warning you'd like about how much you'll need when you're done. [04:26] I installed Debian in 2GB, and somewhere along the line it ran out of space, handled errors badly, hid thme from me, and fell to pieces. [04:26] yes i can understand how that would be the case [04:26] ouch [04:27] Fortunately it did this early, so I hadn't invested too much effort in it... except for the time spent trying to figure out why stuff wasn't working. I never thought to check df, and I worked it out when I went to install some other diagnostic and caught the error messages in the process. [04:27] I _thought_ I had installed so little... [04:30] Was wondering if anybody had tried building an x32 distribution, too. Wanted to know if the system came out comparably small to an i386 distribution. [04:30] Of course, I only know the possibility exists because of the recent security issue. No such thing as bad publicity... [04:33] hmm [06:52] Hey, [06:52] I have a problem with my ThinkPad T30 running Lubuntu. [06:52] It's not compatible with the tp_smapi driver, so how can I gain control of my battery? [06:53] ATM I can't even get my battery to charge. === hexagon is now known as nyuszika === nyuszika is now known as hexagon [20:35] hi [20:41] evening all - I have a weird old version of lubuntu 12.04 - it runs fine but I've borked it up somewhere along the way and it won't recognise that there are updates available. Can anyone tell me what files I should look at to see why it won't recognise 13.10 as an update and offer it? === daker_ is now known as daker [20:43] gil: It won't offer 13.10, you have to jump one by one, unless you select 14.04 but that may cause a small bit of breakage (Also, recommended that you wait at this point until 14.04 comes out, more simple.) [20:43] unit193 thanks. I'm essentially on 12.04 at the moment, but it won't offer me any updates at all. It's almost as if it doesn't recognise that it's a lubuntu installation :) [20:44] "essentially on 12.04"? [20:44] from what I remember, when I tried a lubuntu live cd it wouldn't recognise the partition is a lubuntu partition either - despite the fact that I am getting most 12.04 updates through fine [20:44] Try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in a terminal. [20:44] so it's a fully working 12.04 installation that doesn't know what it is :) I'm wondering if there's a sources file or something that may have gotten corrupted [20:44] unit193 will do [20:45] The sources list is at /etc/apt/sources.list [20:45] where can I find 50-synaptics.conf ? [20:48] Unit193 Bah! 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [20:48] Duality: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf [20:49] Unit193: yea the xorg.conf.d folder isn't there [20:49] gil: You sure there are any? Look at the sources.list file? [20:49] Unit193 yeah I checked out sources.list - no references at all to lubuntu, just ubuntu stuff.... wondering if that's correct or not [20:50] Duality: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics would have to be installed. [20:50] gil: It is. [20:51] Unit193 I'm trying to force re-install lubuntu-desktop to see if that fixes things [20:53] hrrrm still no joy. It just doesn't seem to think that there's an update to 12.10 (sorry - I said 12.04 before).... I'm wondering if this is because something is telling it that it's not lubuntu 12.10 so it doesn't realise [20:54] Bah, systems updates != system upgrades (at least in my head.) In that case, do-release-upgrade or upgrade-manager -c for the gui one. [21:03] Unit193: found it was looking in the wrong place :S [21:03] Unit193: thanks! [21:03] Sure. === gil is now known as Guest47916