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| belkinsa | Who is in charge of the community wiki? | 23:44 |
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| pleia2 | what specifically? | 23:44 |
| pleia2 | Canonical IS runs the server and maintains the software, this team (and several of us who are admins) manage content | 23:44 |
| eagles0513875_ | belkinsa: | 23:45 |
| eagles0513875_ | hey | 23:45 |
| belkinsa | eagles0513875, is asking this in another channel and asked me to ask this. | 23:45 |
| eagles0513875_ | belkinsa: :) | 23:45 |
| eagles0513875_ | im here now | 23:45 |
| belkinsa | [18:44] <pleia2> what specifically? | 23:45 |
| belkinsa | [18:44] <pleia2> Canonical IS runs the server and maintains the software, this team (and several of us who are admins) manage content | 23:45 |
| pleia2 | belkinsa: wait, do you mean wiki.ubuntu.com ? | 23:45 |
| pleia2 | or the community help wiki? | 23:45 |
| eagles0513875_ | pleia2: the community documentation | 23:45 |
| eagles0513875_ | ya | 23:45 |
| pleia2 | ok | 23:45 |
| eagles0513875_ | are you in charge of that team pleia2 | 23:46 |
| pleia2 | we don't have a leader | 23:46 |
| knome | eagles0513875_, maybe you should ask the real question... | 23:46 |
| eagles0513875_ | knome: it was just asked | 23:46 |
| pleia2 | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc-wiki-admins/+members | 23:46 |
| knome | eagles0513875_, eg. "i want to get page X deleted" or "i can't login" | 23:46 |
| belkinsa | eagles0513875_, [18:45] <phillw> community doc cannot, because of what it is, have a team leader.... any one can add / edit wiki entries... this is both its stregnth and weakness. | 23:46 |
| eagles0513875_ | pleia2: are you referring to the official docs | 23:46 |
| pleia2 | eagles0513875_: no, the official docs aren't a wiki | 23:47 |
| pleia2 | official docs are static html exported from docbook | 23:47 |
| eagles0513875_ | phillw: basically i think that the community wiki can have a team leader | 23:47 |
| pleia2 | why? | 23:47 |
| eagles0513875_ | one that ensures it stays spam free. things stay up to date | 23:47 |
| pleia2 | our whole team does that | 23:47 |
| pleia2 | one person can't :) | 23:47 |
| belkinsa | No, what we need is people to know what to do and such. | 23:47 |
| eagles0513875_ | well i can setup a vm on my laptop but im having so many problems with my laptop and 13.10 | 23:48 |
| eagles0513875_ | im not sure if ill stay with kubuntu sadly :( | 23:48 |
| belkinsa | And of course, we need outside help for this: Wiki jams and developers telling what the changes are. | 23:48 |
| pleia2 | the problem with keeping everything up to date isn't that we lack a leader, we all work hard on it but it's a big job so we do our best with the resources we have | 23:48 |
| phillw | that is why we have the tags.... I've asked many times for a group of people to update just one page.... No one has :/ | 23:48 |
| eagles0513875_ | phillw: if i had the time and not such a screwed up sleep pattern atm with this job i have | 23:49 |
| eagles0513875_ | i would | 23:49 |
| pleia2 | yep, we tag things, and hope people who are knowledgable in that area update them | 23:49 |
| knome | nobody can't really force anybody to do anything since it's a voluntary-driven project | 23:49 |
| phillw | indeed. | 23:49 |
| belkinsa | Sigh. | 23:49 |
| eagles0513875_ | well ill take a look through the documentation | 23:49 |
| eagles0513875_ | community wiki and see what i can try out | 23:49 |
| knome | i don't understand the problem, or the frustration | 23:50 |
| belkinsa | I shouldn't of started this. | 23:50 |
| pleia2 | great, thanks for your help | 23:50 |
| eagles0513875_ | belkinsa: you are doign a good job | 23:50 |
| belkinsa | It's my fault. | 23:50 |
| eagles0513875_ | belkinsa: no if anything its mine | 23:50 |
| belkinsa | Maybe the idea of Wiki Jams should be brought up again in the List... | 23:51 |
| eagles0513875_ | ya i agree | 23:51 |
| eagles0513875_ | and what happened to all the community documentation in terms of software :( | 23:52 |
| pleia2 | anyone is welcome to organize one | 23:52 |
| eagles0513875_ | there was a hell of alot more previously | 23:52 |
| pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam is on Friday, 4 April 2014 17:00 to Sunday, 6 April 2014 | 23:52 |
| eagles0513875_ | i can contribute greatly with how to's | 23:52 |
| eagles0513875_ | there is tons missing | 23:52 |
| pleia2 | can review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Docs and see what needs updating | 23:52 |
| belkinsa | I will think about it. | 23:52 |
| belkinsa | I have work to do. | 23:53 |
| pleia2 | unfortunately that jam is too late for official docs to be worked on, but wiki docs always can :) | 23:53 |
| knome | eagles0513875_, you can start now, no need for a specific sprint | 23:53 |
| eagles0513875_ | pleia2: belkinsa is it possible if you are the author of a page to be notified of changes and basiaclly become the dedicated maintainer of that page | 23:53 |
| eagles0513875_ | knome: i know but im at work and i dont have my laptop to test on | 23:53 |
| knome | eagles0513875_, you can subscribe to pages | 23:53 |
| belkinsa | That would be nice, eagles0513875_ . | 23:53 |
| knome | eagles0513875_, but you can't "own" a page | 23:53 |
| eagles0513875_ | knome: :) nice | 23:53 |
| eagles0513875_ | :) i have some very simple how to's on my old site which are concise and to the point :) such as for git and various aspects of git :) | 23:54 |
| eagles0513875_ | and other things which would be beneficial there :) | 23:54 |
| eagles0513875_ | i have lots of ideas | 23:54 |
| knome | eagles0513875_, re: "start now", i don't mean now-now. just that you can start any time, and edit any page which you can improve | 23:55 |
| knome | there is no restrictions | 23:55 |
| eagles0513875_ | :) | 23:55 |
| knome | you don't need a permission to work on something | 23:55 |
| eagles0513875_ | knome: is the documentation something that will be updated constantly | 23:55 |
| eagles0513875_ | i know just motivation for writing wiki's | 23:55 |
| knome | eagles0513875_, what are you referring to with "documentation" ? | 23:55 |
| knome | the official documentation, or the community help wiki? | 23:56 |
| eagles0513875_ | i mean wiki | 23:56 |
| eagles0513875_ | sorry | 23:56 |
| knome | it's updated as we go | 23:56 |
| knome | it isn't tied to any release schedule | 23:56 |
| eagles0513875_ | good :) | 23:56 |
| knome | people add information as they find something new that's useful | 23:56 |
| knome | or when they have time to extend the pages | 23:56 |
| eagles0513875_ | :) | 23:57 |
| belkinsa | It possible to do a Wiki Jam during Jam Week? | 23:57 |
| knome | belkinsa, sure. | 23:57 |
| pleia2 | belkinsa: yes, that's when you do jams :) | 23:57 |
| belkinsa | Alright, I just got an idea. | 23:57 |
| pleia2 | if you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam there are lots of things people can jam on | 23:58 |
| belkinsa | I have | 23:58 |
| pleia2 | Bugs, Testing, Documentation... | 23:58 |
| * pleia2 nods | 23:58 | |
| knome | eagles0513875_, also, re: being a "maintainer" for a page... feel free to make sure any page is up-to-date | 23:58 |
| eagles0513875_ | :) | 23:58 |
| pleia2 | we sometimes also do dedicated days where we all work on the same thing, but we tend to call those "sprints" | 23:58 |
| knome | eagles0513875_, just note that others can, and will, edit the pages | 23:58 |
| pleia2 | since "jams" are a specific thing that happen once per cycle, community and world-wide | 23:58 |
| eagles0513875_ | knome: no problem :) | 23:59 |
| eagles0513875_ | but if the content is good i dont see if there would need to be any chances | 23:59 |
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