=== ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [23:44] Who is in charge of the community wiki? [23:44] what specifically? [23:44] Canonical IS runs the server and maintains the software, this team (and several of us who are admins) manage content [23:45] belkinsa: [23:45] hey [23:45] eagles0513875, is asking this in another channel and asked me to ask this. [23:45] belkinsa: :) [23:45] im here now [23:45] [18:44] <pleia2> what specifically? [23:45] [18:44] <pleia2> Canonical IS runs the server and maintains the software, this team (and several of us who are admins) manage content [23:45] belkinsa: wait, do you mean wiki.ubuntu.com ? [23:45] or the community help wiki? [23:45] pleia2: the community documentation [23:45] ya [23:45] ok [23:46] are you in charge of that team pleia2 [23:46] we don't have a leader [23:46] eagles0513875_, maybe you should ask the real question... [23:46] knome: it was just asked [23:46] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc-wiki-admins/+members [23:46] eagles0513875_, eg. "i want to get page X deleted" or "i can't login" [23:46] eagles0513875_, [18:45] community doc cannot, because of what it is, have a team leader.... any one can add / edit wiki entries... this is both its stregnth and weakness. [23:46] pleia2: are you referring to the official docs [23:47] eagles0513875_: no, the official docs aren't a wiki [23:47] official docs are static html exported from docbook [23:47] phillw: basically i think that the community wiki can have a team leader [23:47] why? [23:47] one that ensures it stays spam free. things stay up to date [23:47] our whole team does that [23:47] one person can't :) [23:47] No, what we need is people to know what to do and such. [23:48] well i can setup a vm on my laptop but im having so many problems with my laptop and 13.10 [23:48] im not sure if ill stay with kubuntu sadly :( [23:48] And of course, we need outside help for this: Wiki jams and developers telling what the changes are. [23:48] the problem with keeping everything up to date isn't that we lack a leader, we all work hard on it but it's a big job so we do our best with the resources we have [23:48] that is why we have the tags.... I've asked many times for a group of people to update just one page.... No one has :/ [23:49] phillw: if i had the time and not such a screwed up sleep pattern atm with this job i have [23:49] i would [23:49] yep, we tag things, and hope people who are knowledgable in that area update them [23:49] nobody can't really force anybody to do anything since it's a voluntary-driven project [23:49] indeed. [23:49] Sigh. [23:49] well ill take a look through the documentation [23:49] community wiki and see what i can try out [23:50] i don't understand the problem, or the frustration [23:50] I shouldn't of started this. [23:50] great, thanks for your help [23:50] belkinsa: you are doign a good job [23:50] It's my fault. [23:50] belkinsa: no if anything its mine [23:51] Maybe the idea of Wiki Jams should be brought up again in the List... [23:51] ya i agree [23:52] and what happened to all the community documentation in terms of software :( [23:52] anyone is welcome to organize one [23:52] there was a hell of alot more previously [23:52] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam is on Friday, 4 April 2014 17:00 to Sunday, 6 April 2014 [23:52] i can contribute greatly with how to's [23:52] there is tons missing [23:52] can review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Docs and see what needs updating [23:52] I will think about it. [23:53] I have work to do. [23:53] unfortunately that jam is too late for official docs to be worked on, but wiki docs always can :) [23:53] eagles0513875_, you can start now, no need for a specific sprint [23:53] pleia2: belkinsa is it possible if you are the author of a page to be notified of changes and basiaclly become the dedicated maintainer of that page [23:53] knome: i know but im at work and i dont have my laptop to test on [23:53] eagles0513875_, you can subscribe to pages [23:53] That would be nice, eagles0513875_ . [23:53] eagles0513875_, but you can't "own" a page [23:53] knome: :) nice [23:54] :) i have some very simple how to's on my old site which are concise and to the point :) such as for git and various aspects of git :) [23:54] and other things which would be beneficial there :) [23:54] i have lots of ideas [23:55] eagles0513875_, re: "start now", i don't mean now-now. just that you can start any time, and edit any page which you can improve [23:55] there is no restrictions [23:55] :) [23:55] you don't need a permission to work on something [23:55] knome: is the documentation something that will be updated constantly [23:55] i know just motivation for writing wiki's [23:55] eagles0513875_, what are you referring to with "documentation" ? [23:56] the official documentation, or the community help wiki? [23:56] i mean wiki [23:56] sorry [23:56] it's updated as we go [23:56] it isn't tied to any release schedule [23:56] good :) [23:56] people add information as they find something new that's useful [23:56] or when they have time to extend the pages [23:57] :) [23:57] It possible to do a Wiki Jam during Jam Week? [23:57] belkinsa, sure. [23:57] belkinsa: yes, that's when you do jams :) [23:57] Alright, I just got an idea. [23:58] if you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam there are lots of things people can jam on [23:58] I have [23:58] Bugs, Testing, Documentation... [23:58] * pleia2 nods [23:58] eagles0513875_, also, re: being a "maintainer" for a page... feel free to make sure any page is up-to-date [23:58] :) [23:58] we sometimes also do dedicated days where we all work on the same thing, but we tend to call those "sprints" [23:58] eagles0513875_, just note that others can, and will, edit the pages [23:58] since "jams" are a specific thing that happen once per cycle, community and world-wide [23:59] knome: no problem :) [23:59] but if the content is good i dont see if there would need to be any chances